How dare they judge a PHOTO camera on its photo performance and not bash its video specs.....they're intentionally trying not to be like every other youtuber!
Great to see that veteran pro putting his stamp of approval on such a camera. I think the people who offer the hardest criticism on gear, are hobbiests.
Yeah, because the only GOOD camera is a vlogging camera (sarcasm), so why bother if it isn't perfect for that? I myself don't even shoot video so it would be a definite upgrade to what I already use and I could go mirrorless AND full frame, so I want the RP.
Pretty much any recent model interchangeable lens camera can be a "Pro Camera". If the photographer behind it know what they are doing, the pictures will be just fine, believe me. In the same time, an incompetent user would most likely fail even with "the best" camera out there. Just pick a model, learn how it operates and use it, people. You'll be fine with Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic, Olympus - you name it.
I remember when wedding photographers did all their work with the 40D. About colour science; I think you can choose different cameras to get different colours as you would choose film back in the days. And so different cameras (or sensors) are optimized for different light that you get as you move away from the Equator. Ektachrome was optimized for the tropical to subtropical zones, whereas Kodachrome was better in temperate zone to sub-polar areas. That's why Canon is better in Hawaii than Nikon, which feels/looks better here in Scandinavia where we have a much colder light. These are my thoughts only. Luckily we can adjust in raw now.
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Michael, you have a great way to both have an articulated personal viewpoint while at the same time realizing others may have theirs, and be respectful to the others opinion. That is such a great attitude in an age where people just criticize other's choice! Great!
Richard Rönnbäck MdM is remarkable!!!! I go to war by his side without though. He is one of the few people who make me feel proud for defending our Constitution! I have not meet him personally but I respect him very much!
This is less about getting great shots as it is on HOW, and what in doing that makes this camera easier, or smoother. Sounds like the VF is really great. The camera is nice and light weight. And EF lenses work as normal mounted lenses....So those are plus points. I have had the Sony for 3 years now (A&RII) and it is a love and hate relationship. The 5DM3 I have is ALL love...BUT, the Sony files are really nice. The EVF has its excellent advantages, like zooming in on your focus point. Peaking assist in manual..etc. The size is not that much of a isse, but sometimes that 5D bulk is nice not having...Before I got a Lbracket, I had a hard time holding the Sony, but after LBracket, no problems, I love the LBracket. It has a handle on the side that can be adjusted on how far off the camera I need to go. Best $25 spent.
The only downside to this for pros are the lack of durability. They're not weather sealed and made out of plastic. My a73 is already out for the count after one year. The shutter gave out on me and I don't have an accidental damage warranty. Not a good thing for a working Photographer. I work 9 jobs a week at nightclubs and I'm starting to feel like mirrorless aren't built for that type of power usage. Seriously considering going back to DSLR. My 5d3 gave me 6 years without going to the shop. And my Sony couldn't even last a year.
True, but Pro Photographers have ALOT of problems and concerns that amateurs don't have, like batery life duration, ISO quality, focus speed, shoot speed. So Pro will have more heasons to don't like a camera. If he like is because is a really good camera. I usualy do some jobs as a seccond photographer whit my 6D and RP will be definitely my next camera after watch this video.
To disable Eye Detection AF without using menu operations, press these buttons, one after another: (AF point button), , and . To resume Eye Detection AF, press the button again.
I personally loved this and hearing your insights into using this camera for professional portraits and weddings. I recently bought the RP to be a smaller backup to my 5div. I feel like every other review out there said this wasnt for professionals and all anyone cared about reviewing was the video which I don’t use or care about. Not to mention I don’t have the budget for a pricier camera. So thank you for making me feel much better about my purchase.
I have a 5D Mark IV and I bought the RP as a backup camera. Well, the RP is more than a backup camera. It can deliver wonderful pictures and it does a really great job. The only things that I hate the most about it are the shutter speed (for sports e.g.) and battery performance. Otherwise, it would have been perfect.
@@cudakRS I use it with 35mm RF macro and RF 24-105 f4. The 35mm creates a bit of chromatic aberration, I use the 24-105 f4 mostly for videos, and love the stabilization on both... I think the RP is spectacular for the price... low light is manageable, but I would not trust it completely, it is better using other sources of light
I know it's a bit late to comment but this is one of the best camera reviews I've ever seen. I'm retired now but still do some charity and free stuff and just bought one of these. Great little camera. Regards from the UK. Stay safe.
You guys are awesome. Thanks for sharing this. I'm a full-time commercial photographer in Central Texas, who needs another body to compliment my Mk IV. I was weighing all my options and this has sold me on the RP. Appreciate it, guys.
I'm surprised how many wedding photographers are willing to use a camera with only one SD card slot. I'm looking to get into wedding photography, and I'm only considering cameras with dual card slots. Having constant backups seems vital to me. I think the RP would be a great camera for my needs if not for it having only one card slot.
What its done is put a bomb under the camera market. No longer can the likes of Sony and Nikon charge $3000 for an entry level full frame mirrorless. $1000 is now the FF entry point and not some crappy, crippled model either. The RP has 90% of the features of the R5. If you don't take video its even more compelling. It will probably destroy the M43 market in a year. Olympus saw it coming. Bravo Canon.
4 years after release the canon RP is still the only example of a ~$1k full frame mirrorless. And it is crappy and crippled. Bad video (I don’t care much about 4k anyways) and sensor performance specifically the dynamic range is very poor. I’m not a hater I use the rp but I came from an m100 and I’m not that impressed with the upgrade
Really enjoyed this video, Michael-Scott's images are excellent and it's obvious the degree of professionalism he brings to his craft. I just want to comment though, since I don't think anyone else here has really mentioned it, that his use case, where it is working exceptionally well, is niche within the wedding market. He is doing outdoor, natural light + flash weddings in bright sun, where the EVF is a huge plus and autofocus performance is at its best. Most of his shoots are shorter days, just the ceremony plus portraits. For a lot of wedding photographers, the 6 hour or longer gigs will involve indoor prep in sometimes dubious lighting, ceremonies in dark venues, and receptions with everything from candlelight to backlit fog machine haze. I'm not saying the RP isn't up to that, because I suspect it is, but Scott's experience doesn't necessarily speak to the situations many other professionals need to prepare for.
The reasons I would prefer the EOS R instead of the EOS RP are: - EOS R uses the same LP-E6N batteries as my Canon 5D Mk4, EOS RP uses a completely different battery - EOS R has a max shutter speed of 1/8000 sec, EOS RP has a max shutter speed of 1/4000 sec (I figured this would come up in your video since Scott Drexler likes to shoot wide open and he's shooting in Hawaii). - EOS R can use a battery grip, EOS RP doesn't have any battery grip option - EOS R has USB 3.1 (5Gb/sec), EOS RP has USB 2.0 (480Mb/sec) - EOS R is 30MP, EOS RP is 26MP - not as drastic as some of the other differences but if I'm getting a new camera I'd rather the sensor be equal to or greater than the 5D Mk4.
I enjoyed that interview with Scott and let Scott know I said hello and I appreciate the honesty from both of you guys and by the way I've been shooting with a crop sensor SL2 since 2017 and just upgraded to the RP 3 weeks ago getting ready to shoot my first wedding this coming Saturday wish me well and this video was so refreshing and encouraging thank you.
Welldone … the photographer decides for himself which camera is his Pro-Tool and which not. On every event this year I switched from 1dxmkII to the R and RP and never regret it.
Looking at how fit Scott is, the fact that the weight was such a problem is revealing how ridiculous pro DSLRs's weight was (and still is in some instances). It's just SO much more than traditional 35mm film cameras, it's just insane.
I don’t feel I did a good job showing how much weight it was because he showed me his two Canon 5D Mark III is both with the battery grips and they were just ridiculous considering he’s caring those w speed lights around for many hours three times a week- it definitely adds up over many hours.
When Sony first released their MilC's with one slot, there was a huge outcry. It seems now it's acceptable because both Nikon & Canon have repeated history. Many seem to use the example of film with one roll of film and a second slot isn't needed when precious images are being made. There was also a time when we rode horses instead of drove cars. At one time we had no ABS braking but it's now a standard feature. Admittedly, equipment has become more reliable but providing an extra slot is another form of an insurance policy.
Hi, are you still using the RP professionally in mid 24?! How does it stack up now after all the firmware updates & new lenses etc? Its still for sale new so that says something I guess!
I am a pro photog from Iowa and have used my 7 D mark ii for around 5 years now and I just got gifted the EOS RP ! Pretty excited to have a full frame now and try this out at a wedding in Sept! 🧙🧙 Thanks for the info guys!
Honestly the RP can be used in any scenario the only thing I don’t like about it is it only has one card slot, BUT that’s not a huge deal. Shot many weddings on a D700 with one CF slot. Don’t abuse your card and should be okay but always shoot on two cameras if that’s the case. Having a backup is always important
Scott is a cool guy! I liked the RP but I returned it for the EOS R. I felt the RP was a fantastic pro level photo camera, and a ok video camera, but I wanted something that did both well, the EOS R was that for me.
I have the 5D Mark IV with the 24-105 f4, 16-35 f4, nifty 50 and the 85mm f1.4. But I also added the Canon RP to my kit. And while I love the solidity and reliability of the 5D Mark IV, I really love the shots I'm getting off my RP.
@@DiscoverRajivVlogs Good question. I've been shocked. The 5D Mk IV is always reliable and you know, pretty much, what you're gonna get as soon as you press the shutter. The RP...I struggle to trust the EVF and I don't like the sound of the "shutter" releasing. However, I've more often than not been pleasantly surprised by how the shots actually look when I get them on my computer. At times they look even better than shots from the 5D MkIV. It's a camera that's definitely worth a look.
@@thewrongopinion7811 This is power of new generation processors and sensor. To be honest i think really, the mirrorless cameras are future. Sound of shuttter is always different in different camers. I think they are using different kind of shutter for their mirrorless camers. Firstly one thing I hated so far in eos R series camers that, they have few physical buttons , but even my camera has many buttons mostly I use touch. So I changed my thinking.😂. I think Canon already knows what is good or bad. Now, the most important thing is the Price ,the 5DMIV definitely is a good camera but for current generation we can say it's overpriced. Overall Eos RP is a very good full frame camera it's as good as 5dm4 in terms of quality ,and eos R simply outperforms 5DM4.
Rajiv kumar sometimes client perceptions plays a part. The 5D Mark IV “looks” professional. The RP is just a wee bit small. But I suppose most clients wouldn’t be able to tell. I’ve used both on jobs
Sample pics @t - Another great video and I finally upgraded from 7dmkii to RP. Couldn't wait any longer for the mk3 and heard it wasn't even going to come out. I must say I love the RP. I was hesitating getting the grip but glad I did. What a difference it makes. Also upgraded to peak design strap, the full frame version because it's thicker and more comfy. I agree with the 1 card and I was putting too much emphasis to have 2 card slot but its not that bad. As for color science, I love the RP and by the way, I always watch your blind test color science and I always end up picking Canon
what i do for my eye af quick settings is i put on c1 a group setting. i shoot apperature priority 90 percent of the time so its set as av, eye af, burst, and evaluative metering. then on c2 i have the same settings but instead of eye af i use point focus and touch and drag. you can also toggle eye af on and off with the button next to the shutter. but that just puts it into autofocus with tracking so the camera picks whatever it thinks you want and its a pain
Great video. A camera does not have to have every single bell and whistle. If it does what you need and does it well, then it is a good system. As mentioned previously, it it stands alone, it is a good camera. Myself included, instead of letting any brand stand on its own we get disappointed because it doesn't have what the other brand has forgetting that both do a pretty good job for what you need. Once again great interview.
What Scott is referring to is how he’ll be in another focusing cluster and he wants to be able to jump to eye-af without needing to put it into face detection first
I was debating on a used Mark III and RP as a backup. An RP with less than 5000 shutter was going for the same price as a Mark III with a 100k shutter. I said, “Is this camera really that bad?” Answer... it’s not. For the price it’s the best deal you can purchase.
I'm currently selling my 24-105 f4L because I'm not impressed with the quality and sharpness that I get out of it. I have been looking at the EOS RP and the 24 to 105 native lens so I'm glad that you said how good it is, thank you.
To be honest, I would have to say to this that in my experience, consumer grade card recovery software is good enough that I'm not too worried about single card slots or card failure anymore. I've had cards fail twice in the past ten years, and have been able to recover 99% of the pictures both times. Also, like Scott says he does in this video, I don't tend to use overly big cards. If the card that failed represents little over an hour's shooting, plus I have pictures from a second body, and I feel confident that I could probably recover most of the images from a failed card anyway, then why worry? I'm going to cull more images during my first pass of selects in Lightroom than I would potentially lose from the card. Beyond that, there's always a well-written contract to cover me in the extremely unlikely case that all else fails.
If you where able to recover your card content, it's corrupted data, not card failure. In that case, the issue came from a software bug, a bad pin contact, a sudden battery cut, or whatever. With a "real" card failure, you can't recover anything, the card is dead. I think you should put all possible efforts to avoid this situation, the fact that you're protected by a contract is necessary of course, but everyone hope this mention will never be used. Having a single card for an important reportage, is a risk no-one should take, in my opinion. I understand that you would loose only a few pictures in your scenario, but if it happens at a critical moment, that's still a bad thing that could have been avoided simply by using an appropriated camera. Eventually a solution could be storing the jpg's on your phone, I think there is a feature to do that automatically, but I'm not sure about that (and I don't know if it's reliable either)
Hello and thank you for this videos and these beautiful photos! Personally I really like my Combo. Canon RP + RF 50mm f1.8 stm. I hesitate to buy this RF 35 f1.8 Macro as well, because I'm not sure it really gives me much more than with my RF 50mm ? What do you think ?
I was thinking about suggesting you do this exact video since you mentioned he used the RP for weddings!!! That was incredibly useful and really shows how meaningless all those spec wars are...
True, but it has about the same dynamic range of a 5D III for example, which was amazing a few years ago. Nowadays there is better dynamic range on some camera, but this one is still awesome. I don't think it's something to worry about for most people.
I've noticed that on RUclips the most popular photographer channels are never the best photographers. They're more techies than photographers. I jumped on Sony because I fell for all the tech hype surrounding the camera. Although my a73 took some time to get used to ergonomically i felt more comfortable with it once I got a battery grip and an e mount lens. But one thing I don't like is that it doesn't fare well with me in the skin tones and the photographers input really resonated with me. Because If I were to have stuck with Canon and my 5d3 which has failed me last year I would have went with the 6d2 which ergonomically is a disaster for me. With the fewer autofocus points that I'm used to with my former and the lack of a dedicated white balance button to quickly switch back and fourth between my usual settings was killing me. But I'm entertaining the idea of owning one of these as a backup camera. Although I'm currently still on Sony I dunt have a 70-200 e mount. I have the generation 1 Canon L. So having that as a backup and for telephoto use would be ideal for my workflow. And since it can handle high ISO and the image quality from what I hear is equivalent to the 6d then I'd rather have that over the 6d for $200 less with a button layout that's more customizable.
Curious what he thinks of the R. Btw, on the R, I can either disable the replay in the menu, or keep it on and depress the shutter half to disable the preview.
I do not know about RP but in Eos R you can go to the menu and stop the image taken show in the view finder which is frustrating when use the continue focusing, I did this the first week and got rid of it and to use the eye focusing with one button I went to the touch bar on top of the camera at the back and disable the sliding function which is annoying and lagging and kept alive the corners of the touch bar which can be used as buttons and assigned to one of it to change the focus point from small to large and to the other corner I select the eye focusing and just by touching it it starts operates and when I touched it again it stops operate - so easy.
I want to thank all the techie obsessed RUclipsrs who trashed this camera, as I was able to pick up one for backup camera for $750 with 2 spare batteries and
Even pro photographers use iPhones or rebel cameras. It doesn’t really matter anymore today. RP is very impressive in low light performance. Very close to IDx level.
"knock on wood" that the card doesn't malfunction. I would make sure my insurance is paid up. The fact that Scott is shooting two bodies would limit some of the damage, but what if the shots of the wedding kiss or another important moment gets lost?
It’s a valid point, but in terms of probability, not likely. Many things can and do go wrong on shoots. I shot most of my career with one card slot, and I learned that if my customers love me, they are much more forgiving
@@MMaven Thanks for replying Michael, your videos have been a great source of information and enjoyment to me for a long time. However, :-) I don't think a business model can rely on the good nature of a paying bride. People are more forgiving than they get credit for, but it only takes one less forgiving customer to throw you into a nightmare scenario. Why would a wedding photographer take the risk if it's not necessary? I'm a stock shooter, so the RP would be more of something for me, but for couples and families who may have traveled especially to Maui for a wedding... that's asking for a a lot of forgiveness if critical shots get lost of the most important day of their lives so far. Sorry, I seem to waffling on. The video was great in many ways and I want to thank you for that. When I upgrade my body, I will seriously consider the RP!
Andrew Balcombe usually photographers have contracts that limit their liability to the amount of refunding a portion or all. It’s easy to think about what could go wrong for any situation, but I’m a strong believer of probabilities. If a single card slot fails less than 1% (much less) I’ll take those odds and a good contract every time.
@@MMaven We have a bit of a message trail going on here. But it's after 11:00 PM here in the Netherlands, so i'll try and keep my reply waffle free ...(it's getting past my bed time :-) In my case, I'm rough on my cards and for that I paid the price and had a card malfunction. Lost a days wildlife shoot, but there was no customer except an unkowing stock agency. I think those special card cases can protect against a lot of unnecessary damage. But I also think cards stop working more frequently than 1 % of the time. I understand why Scott would stay with Canon instead of going to say a fuji or Sony. Everyone has to go with what suits them best. As you say, a contract can limit the risk. But if it did happen, would he still shoot with the RP or change systems? I guess the point i'm trying to make is that I don't think the RP is a wedding camera.
Andrew Balcombe I get where you are coming from but he dual camera shoots & he runs a dual photographer team during weddings. So his risk is minimised to roughly 25% of the images!
I don't personally format the SD card each time, and so far have not had a failure since day one. I edit the photos and cut or erase images off the SD card -- no problems so far. I have an RP now, and it is interesting. A decent tool, and the Fv setting is an interesting twist to the user experience. Not having a second card would be an indication of the camera not being a pro-camera, at least for wedding photography. Waiting for the 50mm lens to come out now.
Hi. Im currently shooting with my t7i / 800d canon with same battery lp-e17... For the preparation of the wedding to reception for a total of 8-9 hours, i have only used 2 batteries.. I dont know how would it be in rp . hmmm thank you for this video.. I think im gonna give it a try, also for the price.. And just buy lenses and adapter
It's not the camera that makes a pro a pro, a pro is someone that makes money from their chosen living. The camera can be pro spec, but the photographer makes the difference. The RP is a fine camera for stills regardless of user, and it doesn't matter about the video bashers say.
Well, ... most of the new "R" lenses don't have IS ...? The body doesn't also ??? I see it as a big handicap for the modern mirror-less camera. I do believe that the mirror-less cameras are the future, so the IBIS too.
Scott mentions that he would have liked to be in the same battery space as 5d cameras. I wonder then why he chose RP over R even though R was released much earlier?
While I can’t stand Canon as a brand for how they treat customers, I really like this video and the ideas presented. You have to work your own way in your own niche to make it in photography.
Hasn't the RP had the same firmware update that the R had allowing Eye AF in servo mode. I tried a RP R A73 and Z6 recently - the RP is the one I'd choose to own, especially with the 35mm RF.
HOW fast is it...when in top RAW mode, taking pictures, and then switching to Play the image just captured, and zoom in the max(what is the max mag on playback) level, and then changing the image to the previous shot, and ...Does it keep the same mag zoom in the same point of the previous magnified point? That I would like to know how it handle. The Sony A7RII FAILS at this in the speed. Long lag wait time.
I think the R is better for weddings. Better dynamic range. And with these new lenses nice team. I love canon gear. I’m not a canon shooter. But the scam going on now is clear. Spend 1300 in a camera and 3000 for hr lenses. The price of the current native Ed mount lenses are ridiculously higher than they used to be. 3k for a prime lens is ridiculous and absurd. However that new 70-200 Is crazy small which really will make this a light kit for wedding gigs.
I believe with the recent firmware update to give the R continuous eye AF, you are correct. The sensor banding issue is also fixed and I agree the strategy of Canon is to make up profit on the lenses. They are just outrageously priced. Will be interesting to see the 70-200 and how it performs.
Who cares about video in a photo camera? Thats like trying to paint with a toothbrush. Sure it will get the job done, but there is a better tool for the job.
Give a pro photographer an entry level dslr and a 18-55. He will probably get a few decent shot, but miles away from what he would get with proper gear. The pro camera need to be reliable, fast, and efficient in any intended situation : low light, moving subjects, rain, etc ...
Here is what I'm loving about this. Canon shooters like your guest are finally seeing the advantages us Sony shooters have had for a long time. Please I hope you'll push Canon to match the quality, features, and reliability of Sony. To be completely honest with you I hate Canon's way of treating their clients. You're all exited about the RP and R. Here is the thing those two models are equivalent to Sony A7 II or Sony A7R II. Which is a shame. You deserve to know what its like to have all the features a Sony A7 III or A7R III have. Real professional features not worrying if this will be a kit camera. Two quick examples. One The RP which would be for major product work should have wired flash for Strobes control. Two the RP should have full featured 4k like a A7 III. An additional is that you should be able to use any USB powerbank to working through a long photo shoot like you can with a either Sony A7 III or A7R III. As for image we as pro-photographers know its the glass. This is where I hope Canon gets up to par with Sony. Right now the G Masters are Competing with Zeiss on quality. Canon's not. This is a shame for you. You shouldn't have to go to any on glass to get that quality. For me at the moment I tell the photographer not to go with Canon mirrorless for professional heavy work loads. I.E. 6-9 hour shoots. Like all day junior league sports tournaments. Two or three colleges graduations shoots. I'm supper excited you have move to mirrorless! Canon will catch up to the A7 III within a year or so. But by then the next generation A7 IV. Which should be more like an A9. Keep doing the great work!! Hawaii is incredible!
" You deserve to know what its like to have all the features a Sony A7 III or A7R III have" And ignoring what sony still lacks? their screens still suck. no full touchscreens no full articulating. the EVF on the A7iii sucks in compare to the R. the canon Wifi app is way supperior. the canon focus way better in dark conditions. the canon has over 5000 AF points.. and why should the A7 series "catch up" with the A9? The A9 is not as great as it sounds on paper. the Dynamic range on the A9 is worse than on the 1DXii/5DIV/EOS R (YES it is. its DR is 13.3ev. on the 5DIV its 13.6EV, check DXO mark). also the "ohh so great 20fps" is rather a blinder. it only shoots 20fps with compressed 12bit raws. in uncompressed raw it only shoots 12fps. the 1dxII shoots 14fps 14bit uncompressed. and how come the A9 doesnt shoot 4K60fps even tho it came out long after the 1DXii(which shoots 4k60)? And what do you mean with "full featured 4k" on the A7III? The A7iii also has a crop in 4K30. and it has a much lower bitrate. the log profile get crushed much quicker than the 4K Log from the R. Sure 4K crop sucks. but the quality is still amazing. and i rather have a crop(and put a EF-S lens on to work around that) than have my camera shut off due to overheating(Speaking of "reliability").
@@MikedieONE lol you are using several dslrs to compete with a single sony a7 series or a9. Second Sony has more active control of focus spots. Canon counts all the pixels used in focus vs Sony's count of zones controlled which have several pixel in each zone used for focus Over heating is a small issue that they've addressed especially so with the a6400 that can record up to dead battery without over heating. Dynamic range between both are about the same. .3 EV isn't much. If you use Capture One you'll get more out of a Sony & Nikon. Lightroom will get you more out of a Canon. I'm sorry 4k 60 $6,000 plus dollar camera vs 4k 30 $1,999 camera Btw sony does have a camera that does commercial 4k 120 RAW for $6,000 Next!!!
@@tobyvisualshawaii501 - There is no battery grip available for the EOS RP, only for the EOS R. And yes, it's insanely overpriced. I picked up a used one on eBay.
I really like your work, and was amazed at the average 3 weddings a week. I also liked your all black outfit with a touch of pro that's your belt buckle; it just looks great. I'm happy for your reputation and the new couples getting your skills. I did a wedding only once, loved my photo outcome, but won't do weddings anymore as a well organized full day shooting schedule meant nothing from one sides parents. Forget how intelligent one may be in photography, it's about knowing how to deal with drama and emotions under these settings. I think I managed well, but don't want to be in that situation anymore, so big props to you and your career!
GREAT discussion! I don't know about the RP, but Eye Detect is WAY improved on the R with the recent firmware update. I have noticed better performance with my EF lens going mirrorless. A couple of reasons might be eliminating the challenge for micro-adjustments since the focus is on the sensor itself. Also, though I don't know if it's true or significant, but Canon claim that the IS now receives data from the sensor to aid in its function. I too am left eye dominant, but my nose seems to be of a size that this is not an issue to use the lower right quadrant of the LCD screen as my mode of focus (Did you notice my care in not saying that others have big noses?). I also wear glasses, so that keeps my face a bit further back than others without glasses, but I've experimented with glasses off and still had no problem.
One other thought, maybe. Again, my experience is with the R, but agree that a dedicated Eye Tracking button would be great. My work around is to use the much maligned multi-function bar. Swiping opens AF options, left-tap enables or disables eye tracking (Right opens the histogram.).
Eye detection overrated. I don’t like my camera selecting where to focus. EyeAF doesn’t work well in a crowd (might not pick the right persons eye). If I’m just shooting a single person, eyeAF is fine... though not really any better than me selecting where to focus. I use the R and love it, and AF is great... just rarely use face/eye-detect.
Hey michael can i pick your brains. Andrew and denae youtube channel i think maybe a little bias towards fuji. He said at one point even pixel peeping wont see any difference pixel peeping between the apsc and full frame sensor. Is that true. ????? Cant be surely for detail
ruclips.net/video/jG0yZb6mNBk/видео.html This was the video. Seemed to suggest it was close in low light and depth of field. But the one that got me i had to check was he said even pixel peeping they are the same. I thought always full frame pulls more detailed images
@@JCANPetros wifi, and it is easy to set up the camera and the canon app, I love the canon connect app. There are down sides, it.only transfers jpeg, but they look great, and if the screen of your phone shuts off, it disconnects, and if you turn the camera off you have to reconnect. I connect then put my phone in my camera bag, also if i dont use it i transfer all my photos to my phone after i do a shoot.
How dare they judge a PHOTO camera on its photo performance and not bash its video specs.....they're intentionally trying not to be like every other youtuber!
Because you're unaware of the new update that got out, which boosted the crappy video option on a great photo camera!
Great to see that veteran pro putting his stamp of approval on such a camera. I think the people who offer the hardest criticism on gear, are hobbiests.
The LPe17 battery is the worst thing that ever happened this camera.
thank you for the pro review in an ocean of obnoxious vloggers
Yeah, because the only GOOD camera is a vlogging camera (sarcasm), so why bother if it isn't perfect for that? I myself don't even shoot video so it would be a definite upgrade to what I already use and I could go mirrorless AND full frame, so I want the RP.
Maybe because they think that youtube is very lucrative
Pretty much any recent model interchangeable lens camera can be a "Pro Camera". If the photographer behind it know what they are doing, the pictures will be just fine, believe me. In the same time, an incompetent user would most likely fail even with "the best" camera out there. Just pick a model, learn how it operates and use it, people. You'll be fine with Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic, Olympus - you name it.
I remember when wedding photographers did all their work with the 40D.
About colour science; I think you can choose different cameras to get different colours as you would choose film back in the days.
And so different cameras (or sensors) are optimized for different light that you get as you move away from the Equator.
Ektachrome was optimized for the tropical to subtropical zones, whereas Kodachrome was better in temperate zone to sub-polar areas.
That's why Canon is better in Hawaii than Nikon, which feels/looks better here in Scandinavia where we have a much colder light.
These are my thoughts only. Luckily we can adjust in raw now.
Michael, you have a great way to both have an articulated personal viewpoint while at the same time realizing others may have theirs, and be respectful to the others opinion. That is such a great attitude in an age where people just criticize other's choice! Great!
Thank you Richard - it’s something I’ve learned over the last recent years
Richard Rönnbäck MdM is remarkable!!!! I go to war by his side without though. He is one of the few people who make me feel proud for defending our Constitution! I have not meet him personally but I respect him very much!
José Colón thank you for your service Jose! We are all indebted to you.
Michael The Maven 🙏
Well he's a pro, so doesn't matter/ I can give him my t3i and he will get amazing Wedding shots.
Finally someone speaking the truth
#facts
This is less about getting great shots as it is on HOW, and what in doing that makes this camera easier, or smoother. Sounds like the VF is really great. The camera is nice and light weight. And EF lenses work as normal mounted lenses....So those are plus points. I have had the Sony for 3 years now (A&RII) and it is a love and hate relationship. The 5DM3 I have is ALL love...BUT, the Sony files are really nice. The EVF has its excellent advantages, like zooming in on your focus point. Peaking assist in manual..etc. The size is not that much of a isse, but sometimes that 5D bulk is nice not having...Before I got a Lbracket, I had a hard time holding the Sony, but after LBracket, no problems, I love the LBracket. It has a handle on the side that can be adjusted on how far off the camera I need to go. Best $25 spent.
The only downside to this for pros are the lack of durability. They're not weather sealed and made out of plastic. My a73 is already out for the count after one year. The shutter gave out on me and I don't have an accidental damage warranty. Not a good thing for a working Photographer. I work 9 jobs a week at nightclubs and I'm starting to feel like mirrorless aren't built for that type of power usage. Seriously considering going back to DSLR. My 5d3 gave me 6 years without going to the shop. And my Sony couldn't even last a year.
True, but Pro Photographers have ALOT of problems and concerns that amateurs don't have, like batery life duration, ISO quality, focus speed, shoot speed. So Pro will have more heasons to don't like a camera. If he like is because is a really good camera.
I usualy do some jobs as a seccond photographer whit my 6D and RP will be definitely my next camera after watch this video.
To disable Eye Detection AF without using menu operations, press these buttons, one after another:
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I personally loved this and hearing your insights into using this camera for professional portraits and weddings. I recently bought the RP to be a smaller backup to my 5div. I feel like every other review out there said this wasnt for professionals and all anyone cared about reviewing was the video which I don’t use or care about. Not to mention I don’t have the budget for a pricier camera. So thank you for making me feel much better about my purchase.
Nice interview, you asked some great questions and I enjoyed listening to Scott’s insights!👍
I love my RP, I use it for street photography and wedding, and the size, the menu, the focus, the screen, well, I agree with Mr. Drexler... Thanks!
I absolutely agree
I have a 5D Mark IV and I bought the RP as a backup camera. Well, the RP is more than a backup camera. It can deliver wonderful pictures and it does a really great job. The only things that I hate the most about it are the shutter speed (for sports e.g.) and battery performance. Otherwise, it would have been perfect.
how it handles weddings? with what lens you use it? I wonder if the noise is acceptable on high iso when it;'s needed in the church
@@cudakRS I use it with 35mm RF macro and RF 24-105 f4. The 35mm creates a bit of chromatic aberration, I use the 24-105 f4 mostly for videos, and love the stabilization on both... I think the RP is spectacular for the price... low light is manageable, but I would not trust it completely, it is better using other sources of light
@@arttiz01 thanks, I'll think about some flashes to fill the shadows.
I know it's a bit late to comment but this is one of the best camera reviews I've ever seen. I'm retired now but still do some charity and free stuff and just bought one of these. Great little camera. Regards from the UK. Stay safe.
i love you it that you dont interrupt Scott while his talking man.. and kudos to Scott for being honest!
I try not to do this in general, but still slip up sometimes.
You guys are awesome. Thanks for sharing this. I'm a full-time commercial photographer in Central Texas, who needs another body to compliment my Mk IV. I was weighing all my options and this has sold me on the RP. Appreciate it, guys.
I shoot with the 5D4 and the 70D. Can’t see myself getting rid of those bodies. Maybe the RP down the road.
Ditto!
I'm surprised how many wedding photographers are willing to use a camera with only one SD card slot. I'm looking to get into wedding photography, and I'm only considering cameras with dual card slots. Having constant backups seems vital to me. I think the RP would be a great camera for my needs if not for it having only one card slot.
You are correct. Dual slots for pro gear.
What its done is put a bomb under the camera market. No longer can the likes of Sony and Nikon charge $3000 for an entry level full frame mirrorless. $1000 is now the FF entry point and not some crappy, crippled model either. The RP has 90% of the features of the R5. If you don't take video its even more compelling. It will probably destroy the M43 market in a year. Olympus saw it coming. Bravo Canon.
4 years after release the canon RP is still the only example of a ~$1k full frame mirrorless. And it is crappy and crippled. Bad video (I don’t care much about 4k anyways) and sensor performance specifically the dynamic range is very poor. I’m not a hater I use the rp but I came from an m100 and I’m not that impressed with the upgrade
Really enjoyed this video, Michael-Scott's images are excellent and it's obvious the degree of professionalism he brings to his craft. I just want to comment though, since I don't think anyone else here has really mentioned it, that his use case, where it is working exceptionally well, is niche within the wedding market. He is doing outdoor, natural light + flash weddings in bright sun, where the EVF is a huge plus and autofocus performance is at its best. Most of his shoots are shorter days, just the ceremony plus portraits. For a lot of wedding photographers, the 6 hour or longer gigs will involve indoor prep in sometimes dubious lighting, ceremonies in dark venues, and receptions with everything from candlelight to backlit fog machine haze. I'm not saying the RP isn't up to that, because I suspect it is, but Scott's experience doesn't necessarily speak to the situations many other professionals need to prepare for.
The reasons I would prefer the EOS R instead of the EOS RP are:
- EOS R uses the same LP-E6N batteries as my Canon 5D Mk4, EOS RP uses a completely different battery
- EOS R has a max shutter speed of 1/8000 sec, EOS RP has a max shutter speed of 1/4000 sec (I figured this would come up in your video since Scott Drexler likes to shoot wide open and he's shooting in Hawaii).
- EOS R can use a battery grip, EOS RP doesn't have any battery grip option
- EOS R has USB 3.1 (5Gb/sec), EOS RP has USB 2.0 (480Mb/sec)
- EOS R is 30MP, EOS RP is 26MP - not as drastic as some of the other differences but if I'm getting a new camera I'd rather the sensor be equal to or greater than the 5D Mk4.
When are you ever going to shoot at 1/8000
@@eddiereyes26 since 25 years I'm in wedding photography and I never feel the need to use shutter speed 8000.
And also cost varies as well...so this is why RP is called a budget friendly and if we carry 2 batteries that may not be problem for photography.
I'm an uncle and shoot a XT3 and a7iii. Costco here I come!
I enjoyed that interview with Scott and let Scott know I said hello and I appreciate the honesty from both of you guys and by the way I've been shooting with a crop sensor SL2 since 2017 and just upgraded to the RP 3 weeks ago getting ready to shoot my first wedding this coming Saturday wish me well and this video was so refreshing and encouraging thank you.
so I'm thinking about buying the RP I'm coming from an apsc t7i so how you like the RP
@@mikelf9449 I like the RP I don't think you can go wrong I think you would like it too especially if it's your first full frame camera I like the RP
Welldone … the photographer decides for himself which camera is his Pro-Tool and which not. On every event this year I switched from 1dxmkII to the R and RP and never regret it.
Looking at how fit Scott is, the fact that the weight was such a problem is revealing how ridiculous pro DSLRs's weight was (and still is in some instances). It's just SO much more than traditional 35mm film cameras, it's just insane.
I don’t feel I did a good job showing how much weight it was because he showed me his two Canon 5D Mark III is both with the battery grips and they were just ridiculous considering he’s caring those w speed lights around for many hours three times a week- it definitely adds up over many hours.
I am looking to start photography and this is the camera i want to purchase. What lens is a must have for someone on a budget.
canon rf 50mm 1.8 is a good start..
if you want wider, go to rf 35mm
Another upload that needs to be refreshed! New updates baby!
When Sony first released their MilC's with one slot, there was a huge outcry. It seems now it's acceptable because both Nikon & Canon have repeated history. Many seem to use the example of film with one roll of film and a second slot isn't needed when precious images are being made. There was also a time when we rode horses instead of drove cars. At one time we had no ABS braking but it's now a standard feature. Admittedly, equipment has become more reliable but providing an extra slot is another form of an insurance policy.
Hi, are you still using the RP professionally in mid 24?!
How does it stack up now after all the firmware updates & new lenses etc?
Its still for sale new so that says something I guess!
I am a pro photog from Iowa and have used my 7 D mark ii for around 5 years now and I just got gifted the EOS RP ! Pretty excited to have a full frame now and try this out at a wedding in Sept! 🧙🧙 Thanks for the info guys!
It’s a great camera!
Dear Vana Lea, how it was turned out ? Are you satisfied with RP ?
Such a warm conversation! Loved it besides the wonderful real life review of RP.
Honestly the RP can be used in any scenario the only thing I don’t like about it is it only has one card slot, BUT that’s not a huge deal. Shot many weddings on a D700 with one CF slot. Don’t abuse your card and should be okay but always shoot on two cameras if that’s the case. Having a backup is always important
I'd love to see or hear an updated video on this!
The new updates the Trinity lenses. If he still likes battery life
Scott is a cool guy! I liked the RP but I returned it for the EOS R. I felt the RP was a fantastic pro level photo camera, and a ok video camera, but I wanted something that did both well, the EOS R was that for me.
I have the 5D Mark IV with the 24-105 f4, 16-35 f4, nifty 50 and the 85mm f1.4. But I also added the Canon RP to my kit. And while I love the solidity and reliability of the 5D Mark IV, I really love the shots I'm getting off my RP.
How good is RP against 5d m4 in terms of quality? What's your opinion?
@@DiscoverRajivVlogs Good question. I've been shocked. The 5D Mk IV is always reliable and you know, pretty much, what you're gonna get as soon as you press the shutter.
The RP...I struggle to trust the EVF and I don't like the sound of the "shutter" releasing. However, I've more often than not been pleasantly surprised by how the shots actually look when I get them on my computer. At times they look even better than shots from the 5D MkIV.
It's a camera that's definitely worth a look.
@@DiscoverRajivVlogs have a look at my IG - search postablephotography - the caption of the photos describe the camera used.
@@thewrongopinion7811 This is power of new generation processors and sensor. To be honest i think really, the mirrorless cameras are future. Sound of shuttter is always different in different camers. I think they are using different kind of shutter for their mirrorless camers.
Firstly one thing I hated so far in eos R series camers that, they have few physical buttons , but even my camera has many buttons mostly I use touch. So I changed my thinking.😂. I think Canon already knows what is good or bad.
Now, the most important thing is the Price ,the 5DMIV definitely is a good camera but for current generation we can say it's overpriced. Overall Eos RP is a very good full frame camera it's as good as 5dm4 in terms of quality ,and eos R simply outperforms 5DM4.
Rajiv kumar sometimes client perceptions plays a part. The 5D Mark IV “looks” professional. The RP is just a wee bit small. But I suppose most clients wouldn’t be able to tell. I’ve used both on jobs
I love my two RP's but I also own the R5 for the super heavy stuff. Great video!
Sample pics @t - Another great video and I finally upgraded from 7dmkii to RP. Couldn't wait any longer for the mk3 and heard it wasn't even going to come out. I must say I love the RP. I was hesitating getting the grip but glad I did. What a difference it makes. Also upgraded to peak design strap, the full frame version because it's thicker and more comfy. I agree with the 1 card and I was putting too much emphasis to have 2 card slot but its not that bad. As for color science, I love the RP and by the way, I always watch your blind test color science and I always end up picking Canon
what i do for my eye af quick settings is i put on c1 a group setting. i shoot apperature priority 90 percent of the time so its set as av, eye af, burst, and evaluative metering. then on c2 i have the same settings but instead of eye af i use point focus and touch and drag. you can also toggle eye af on and off with the button next to the shutter. but that just puts it into autofocus with tracking so the camera picks whatever it thinks you want and its a pain
Great video. A camera does not have to have every single bell and whistle. If it does what you need and does it well, then it is a good system. As mentioned previously, it it stands alone, it is a good camera. Myself included, instead of letting any brand stand on its own we get disappointed because it doesn't have what the other brand has forgetting that both do a pretty good job for what you need. Once again great interview.
This is exactly the right approach to cameras, not what it can do overall, its what it can do well! Thanks for your comment!
Great comment! Couldn't be more true.
Would you still use the rp in 2022? Paired with good rf glass???
Guys, you can program a number of buttons on the RP to engage eye focus with a single click. It's in custom functions III menu.
What Scott is referring to is how he’ll be in another focusing cluster and he wants to be able to jump to eye-af without needing to put it into face detection first
@@MMaven Ah, I see.
Awesome non-pixel- peeping interview. Made my decision towards me RP vs used 5D III much easier 👍🙏
I was debating on a used Mark III and RP as a backup. An RP with less than 5000 shutter was going for the same price as a Mark III with a 100k shutter. I said, “Is this camera really that bad?” Answer... it’s not. For the price it’s the best deal you can purchase.
I'm currently selling my 24-105 f4L because I'm not impressed with the quality and sharpness that I get out of it. I have been looking at the EOS RP and the 24 to 105 native lens so I'm glad that you said how good it is, thank you.
Got my RP today. one of the first things I did is go to your site and buy your guide. it helped me a lot with my 80d.
Thank you so much for your support!
Most people only care about video featurea because they thinks that youtube is something lucrative
To be honest, I would have to say to this that in my experience, consumer grade card recovery software is good enough that I'm not too worried about single card slots or card failure anymore. I've had cards fail twice in the past ten years, and have been able to recover 99% of the pictures both times. Also, like Scott says he does in this video, I don't tend to use overly big cards. If the card that failed represents little over an hour's shooting, plus I have pictures from a second body, and I feel confident that I could probably recover most of the images from a failed card anyway, then why worry? I'm going to cull more images during my first pass of selects in Lightroom than I would potentially lose from the card. Beyond that, there's always a well-written contract to cover me in the extremely unlikely case that all else fails.
If you where able to recover your card content, it's corrupted data, not card failure. In that case, the issue came from a software bug, a bad pin contact, a sudden battery cut, or whatever. With a "real" card failure, you can't recover anything, the card is dead.
I think you should put all possible efforts to avoid this situation, the fact that you're protected by a contract is necessary of course, but everyone hope this mention will never be used. Having a single card for an important reportage, is a risk no-one should take, in my opinion.
I understand that you would loose only a few pictures in your scenario, but if it happens at a critical moment, that's still a bad thing that could have been avoided simply by using an appropriated camera.
Eventually a solution could be storing the jpg's on your phone, I think there is a feature to do that automatically, but I'm not sure about that (and I don't know if it's reliable either)
Hello and thank you for this videos and these beautiful photos! Personally I really like my Combo. Canon RP + RF 50mm f1.8 stm. I hesitate to buy this RF 35 f1.8 Macro as well, because I'm not sure it really gives me much more than with my RF 50mm ? What do you think ?
Are the pictures noisy or is just grain added in post?
Dragos Grebenisan he said “a little noise” (iso 5000)
@@josecolon8143 Yeah but all of them are at iso 5000 ? Maybe that's his style...some grain added in post for a vintage look.
Dragos Grebenisan it seems like, but you are right with your question! Now that I think about it, I would like to know the answer to your question!
I was thinking about suggesting you do this exact video since you mentioned he used the RP for weddings!!! That was incredibly useful and really shows how meaningless all those spec wars are...
What about dynamic range? Heard that you cannot recover shadows as much.
SoulStoriesLtd R it’s true. You cannot push shadows very hard. If you get it right in camera you should be ok
@@MMaven Guessed so. Thanks, Mate.
Yeah the rp is not the best in this aspect but fanbois/canon haters will always make a way to blow this out of proportion
True, but it has about the same dynamic range of a 5D III for example, which was amazing a few years ago.
Nowadays there is better dynamic range on some camera, but this one is still awesome. I don't think it's something to worry about for most people.
I've noticed that on RUclips the most popular photographer channels are never the best photographers. They're more techies than photographers. I jumped on Sony because I fell for all the tech hype surrounding the camera. Although my a73 took some time to get used to ergonomically i felt more comfortable with it once I got a battery grip and an e mount lens. But one thing I don't like is that it doesn't fare well with me in the skin tones and the photographers input really resonated with me. Because If I were to have stuck with Canon and my 5d3 which has failed me last year I would have went with the 6d2 which ergonomically is a disaster for me. With the fewer autofocus points that I'm used to with my former and the lack of a dedicated white balance button to quickly switch back and fourth between my usual settings was killing me. But I'm entertaining the idea of owning one of these as a backup camera. Although I'm currently still on Sony I dunt have a 70-200 e mount. I have the generation 1 Canon L. So having that as a backup and for telephoto use would be ideal for my workflow. And since it can handle high ISO and the image quality from what I hear is equivalent to the 6d then I'd rather have that over the 6d for $200 less with a button layout that's more customizable.
Curious what he thinks of the R.
Btw, on the R, I can either disable the replay in the menu, or keep it on and depress the shutter half to disable the preview.
We did not like single focus eye AF, but now that it has it, he still likes the RP for cost and weight reasons
Love this review!!! This may be late, but i wonder if he is still selling an RP ? 👀 While being unemployed is kinda though to find a good deal.
I do not know about RP but in Eos R you can go to the menu and stop the image taken show in the view finder which is frustrating when use the continue focusing, I did this the first week and got rid of it and to use the eye focusing with one button I went to the touch bar on top of the camera at the back and disable the sliding function which is annoying and lagging and kept alive the corners of the touch bar which can be used as buttons and assigned to one of it to change the focus point from small to large and to the other corner I select the eye focusing and just by touching it it starts operates and when I touched it again it stops operate - so easy.
I want to thank all the techie obsessed RUclipsrs who trashed this camera, as I was able to pick up one for backup camera for $750 with 2 spare batteries and
What lens do you use at weddings? Scott ?
No he is using the 28-70 f2 & 70-200 2.8 II EF on the R5s
thanks@@MMaven
Even pro photographers use iPhones or rebel cameras. It doesn’t really matter anymore today. RP is very impressive in low light performance. Very close to IDx level.
"knock on wood" that the card doesn't malfunction. I would make sure my insurance is paid up. The fact that Scott is shooting two bodies would limit some of the damage, but what if the shots of the wedding kiss or another important moment gets lost?
It’s a valid point, but in terms of probability, not likely. Many things can and do go wrong on shoots. I shot most of my career with one card slot, and I learned that if my customers love me, they are much more forgiving
@@MMaven Thanks for replying Michael, your videos have been a great source of information and enjoyment to me for a long time.
However, :-) I don't think a business model can rely on the good nature of a paying bride. People are more forgiving than they get credit for, but it only takes one less forgiving customer to throw you into a nightmare scenario.
Why would a wedding photographer take the risk if it's not necessary?
I'm a stock shooter, so the RP would be more of something for me, but for couples and families who may have traveled especially to Maui for a wedding... that's asking for a a lot of forgiveness if critical shots get lost of the most important day of their lives so far.
Sorry, I seem to waffling on. The video was great in many ways and I want to thank you for that. When I upgrade my body, I will seriously consider the RP!
Andrew Balcombe usually photographers have contracts that limit their liability to the amount of refunding a portion or all. It’s easy to think about what could go wrong for any situation, but I’m a strong believer of probabilities. If a single card slot fails less than 1% (much less) I’ll take those odds and a good contract every time.
@@MMaven We have a bit of a message trail going on here. But it's after 11:00 PM here in the Netherlands, so i'll try and keep my reply waffle free ...(it's getting past my bed time :-)
In my case, I'm rough on my cards and for that I paid the price and had a card malfunction. Lost a days wildlife shoot, but there was no customer except an unkowing stock agency.
I think those special card cases can protect against a lot of unnecessary damage. But I also think cards stop working more frequently than 1 % of the time. I understand why Scott would stay with Canon instead of going to say a fuji or Sony. Everyone has to go with what suits them best. As you say, a contract can limit the risk. But if it did happen, would he still shoot with the RP or change systems? I guess the point i'm trying to make is that I don't think the RP is a wedding camera.
Andrew Balcombe I get where you are coming from but he dual camera shoots & he runs a dual photographer team during weddings. So his risk is minimised to roughly 25% of the images!
Every pro photographer I know just shoots with what they have and rarely hear any bitching about their camera.
Is formatting a card every time you put in a good idea to help prevent failure ?
I don't personally format the SD card each time, and so far have not had a failure since day one. I edit the photos and cut or erase images off the SD card -- no problems so far. I have an RP now, and it is interesting. A decent tool, and the Fv setting is an interesting twist to the user experience. Not having a second card would be an indication of the camera not being a pro-camera, at least for wedding photography. Waiting for the 50mm lens to come out now.
@@lorenschwiderski THe 50 is out. Got mine 2 weeks ago.
@@gregorynp That is great -- do you like it? I will wait for next month and use earned credit to buy it when they receive the re-stock.
@@lorenschwiderski Yes, very much
Hi. Im currently shooting with my t7i / 800d canon with same battery lp-e17... For the preparation of the wedding to reception for a total of 8-9 hours, i have only used 2 batteries.. I dont know how would it be in rp . hmmm thank you for this video.. I think im gonna give it a try, also for the price.. And just buy lenses and adapter
Eye autofocus and face detection improved after firmware updates.. is it true?
EOS R firmware 1.2.0. improved eye AF in servo works!
Can i have the link for firmware?
@@yeahno2291
It may be region specific. Just google Canon Eos R firmware and It'll lead you straight to it.
It's not the camera that makes a pro a pro, a pro is someone that makes money from their chosen living.
The camera can be pro spec, but the photographer makes the difference.
The RP is a fine camera for stills regardless of user, and it doesn't matter about the video bashers say.
Well, ... most of the new "R" lenses don't have IS ...? The body doesn't also ??? I see it as a big handicap for the modern mirror-less camera.
I do believe that the mirror-less cameras are the future, so the IBIS too.
You dont need IBIS, you need skills!
Ridder van Doorne LOL, IBIS is a tool and only a fool would disregard it.
@@mavfan1 Maybe so, but i dont mis it :)
Still dont have a need for ibis in studio sessions with the quality of tripods being great since the beginning of time!
You dont need to use RF lenses... any efs or ef lenses work with the adapter without losing any performance.
Scott mentions that he would have liked to be in the same battery space as 5d cameras. I wonder then why he chose RP over R even though R was released much earlier?
While I can’t stand Canon as a brand for how they treat customers, I really like this video and the ideas presented. You have to work your own way in your own niche to make it in photography.
I love canon. What did canon do to you?
I use a7iii but this rp has me going should I. I came from canon and really miss the colors.
Excellent review. I think I’ve made my decision. Thanks
Pank
Hasn't the RP had the same firmware update that the R had allowing Eye AF in servo mode. I tried a RP R A73 and Z6 recently - the RP is the one I'd choose to own, especially with the 35mm RF.
Yes! Servo Eye AF is awesome in it
@@MMaven I'm a Nikon shooter Michael but it sounds good to me.
HOW fast is it...when in top RAW mode, taking pictures, and then switching to Play the image just captured, and zoom in the max(what is the max mag on playback) level, and then changing the image to the previous shot, and ...Does it keep the same mag zoom in the same point of the previous magnified point? That I would like to know how it handle. The Sony A7RII FAILS at this in the speed. Long lag wait time.
You both guys are beasts! 😊
Awesome vid! It’s great to hear from a pro who makes a living with this gear. Great interview Maven. P.S. Scott should have bought one RP and one R!
my question is are they using eos rp or r r5 today
Yes scott was using his cannon Rps all the way up to the time he bought his are five
I think the R is better for weddings. Better dynamic range. And with these new lenses nice team. I love canon gear. I’m not a canon shooter. But the scam going on now is clear. Spend 1300 in a camera and 3000 for hr lenses. The price of the current native Ed mount lenses are ridiculously higher than they used to be. 3k for a prime lens is ridiculous and absurd. However that new 70-200 Is crazy small which really will make this a light kit for wedding gigs.
I believe with the recent firmware update to give the R continuous eye AF, you are correct. The sensor banding issue is also fixed and I agree the strategy of Canon is to make up profit on the lenses. They are just outrageously priced. Will be interesting to see the 70-200 and how it performs.
Aloha, how do you think this camera would do for Boudoir Photography???
Should be great!
@@MMaven Mahalos!
Canon always take excellent photos. But they are neglecting the video aspect. Something their rivals fuji sony panasonic have catch up with
Who cares about video in a photo camera? Thats like trying to paint with a toothbrush. Sure it will get the job done, but there is a better tool for the job.
There are no pro camera's, only pro photographers!
Agree!!
But no photographer will be anything without the camera 😉 so yes, there is pro cameras. The camera that makes the pro photographer earn money 😉
Give a pro photographer an entry level dslr and a 18-55. He will probably get a few decent shot, but miles away from what he would get with proper gear. The pro camera need to be reliable, fast, and efficient in any intended situation : low light, moving subjects, rain, etc ...
Hope to bump into you guys some day! I’m rocking the eos r :)
Here is what I'm loving about this. Canon shooters like your guest are finally seeing the advantages us Sony shooters have had for a long time. Please I hope you'll push Canon to match the quality, features, and reliability of Sony. To be completely honest with you I hate Canon's way of treating their clients. You're all exited about the RP and R. Here is the thing those two models are equivalent to Sony A7 II or Sony A7R II. Which is a shame. You deserve to know what its like to have all the features a Sony A7 III or A7R III have. Real professional features not worrying if this will be a kit camera. Two quick examples. One The RP which would be for major product work should have wired flash for Strobes control. Two the RP should have full featured 4k like a A7 III. An additional is that you should be able to use any USB powerbank to working through a long photo shoot like you can with a either Sony A7 III or A7R III.
As for image we as pro-photographers know its the glass. This is where I hope Canon gets up to par with Sony. Right now the G Masters are Competing with Zeiss on quality. Canon's not. This is a shame for you. You shouldn't have to go to any on glass to get that quality.
For me at the moment I tell the photographer not to go with Canon mirrorless for professional heavy work loads. I.E. 6-9 hour shoots. Like all day junior league sports tournaments. Two or three colleges graduations shoots.
I'm supper excited you have move to mirrorless! Canon will catch up to the A7 III within a year or so. But by then the next generation A7 IV. Which should be more like an A9.
Keep doing the great work!! Hawaii is incredible!
" You deserve to know what its like to have all the features a Sony A7 III or A7R III have"
And ignoring what sony still lacks? their screens still suck. no full touchscreens no full articulating. the EVF on the A7iii sucks in compare to the R. the canon Wifi app is way supperior. the canon focus way better in dark conditions. the canon has over 5000 AF points.. and why should the A7 series "catch up" with the A9?
The A9 is not as great as it sounds on paper. the Dynamic range on the A9 is worse than on the 1DXii/5DIV/EOS R (YES it is. its DR is 13.3ev. on the 5DIV its 13.6EV, check DXO mark). also the "ohh so great 20fps" is rather a blinder. it only shoots 20fps with compressed 12bit raws. in uncompressed raw it only shoots 12fps. the 1dxII shoots 14fps 14bit uncompressed. and how come the A9 doesnt shoot 4K60fps even tho it came out long after the 1DXii(which shoots 4k60)?
And what do you mean with "full featured 4k" on the A7III? The A7iii also has a crop in 4K30. and it has a much lower bitrate. the log profile get crushed much quicker than the 4K Log from the R. Sure 4K crop sucks. but the quality is still amazing. and i rather have a crop(and put a EF-S lens on to work around that) than have my camera shut off due to overheating(Speaking of "reliability").
@@MikedieONE lol you are using several dslrs to compete with a single sony a7 series or a9.
Second Sony has more active control of focus spots. Canon counts all the pixels used in focus vs Sony's count of zones controlled which have several pixel in each zone used for focus
Over heating is a small issue that they've addressed especially so with the a6400 that can record up to dead battery without over heating.
Dynamic range between both are about the same. .3 EV isn't much. If you use Capture One you'll get more out of a Sony & Nikon. Lightroom will get you more out of a Canon.
I'm sorry 4k 60 $6,000 plus dollar camera vs 4k 30 $1,999 camera
Btw sony does have a camera that does commercial 4k 120 RAW for $6,000
Next!!!
waiting for the real real pro model of it =p
Noealz Photo I’m trying to give canon as much feedback as possible so they can get it right!
Michael The Maven battery to rival Sony’s Z, IBIS, improved sensor and less severe video crop and I’m interested.
Really professional looking pics ,very nice ..
Just got updated via firmware so it is better now.
Disable preview mode in the menu.
1 SD card is the deal breaker.
Toby Visuals bad battery life too
@@mavfan1 I would get the overpriced battery grip.
@@mavfan1 - I don't know about the EOS RP but battery life on the EOS R is actually pretty good, I was impressed.
@@tobyvisualshawaii501 - There is no battery grip available for the EOS RP, only for the EOS R.
And yes, it's insanely overpriced. I picked up a used one on eBay.
I really like your work, and was amazed at the average 3 weddings a week. I also liked your all black outfit with a touch of pro that's your belt buckle; it just looks great. I'm happy for your reputation and the new couples getting your skills. I did a wedding only once, loved my photo outcome, but won't do weddings anymore as a well organized full day shooting schedule meant nothing from one sides parents. Forget how intelligent one may be in photography, it's about knowing how to deal with drama and emotions under these settings. I think I managed well, but don't want to be in that situation anymore, so big props to you and your career!
There was never a 500$ full frame meanwhile. Actually the opposite: the R6 na d the Mark II are ridiculously overpriced
Any camera is potentially a "pro camera" if you make money from it. I don't but I'm not about to give up my Sony system for this.
GREAT discussion!
I don't know about the RP, but Eye Detect is WAY improved on the R with the recent firmware update.
I have noticed better performance with my EF lens going mirrorless. A couple of reasons might be eliminating the challenge for micro-adjustments since the focus is on the sensor itself. Also, though I don't know if it's true or significant, but Canon claim that the IS now receives data from the sensor to aid in its function.
I too am left eye dominant, but my nose seems to be of a size that this is not an issue to use the lower right quadrant of the LCD screen as my mode of focus (Did you notice my care in not saying that others have big noses?). I also wear glasses, so that keeps my face a bit further back than others without glasses, but I've experimented with glasses off and still had no problem.
One other thought, maybe. Again, my experience is with the R, but agree that a dedicated Eye Tracking button would be great. My work around is to use the much maligned multi-function bar. Swiping opens AF options, left-tap enables or disables eye tracking (Right opens the histogram.).
Eye detection overrated. I don’t like my camera selecting where to focus. EyeAF doesn’t work well in a crowd (might not pick the right persons eye). If I’m just shooting a single person, eyeAF is fine... though not really any better than me selecting where to focus. I use the R and love it, and AF is great... just rarely use face/eye-detect.
It will take awhile to understand that pro body 5d mark iii is history ( in portrait photography)
Love my Canon RP!
Lovely video! This is a deal sealer. 👍👌
Fantastic interview, but I wonder what would you do if a card would fail? Would you re-shoot the wedding?
Hey michael can i pick your brains.
Andrew and denae youtube channel i think maybe a little bias towards fuji.
He said at one point even pixel peeping wont see any difference pixel peeping between the apsc and full frame sensor.
Is that true. ????? Cant be surely for detail
Not true- many differences - especially at higher ISO’s and depths of field
@@MMaven even under perfect conditions both perfect conditions will pull more detail pixel peeping from the rp sensor than an xt3 sensor is that right
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This was the video. Seemed to suggest it was close in low light and depth of field. But the one that got me i had to check was he said even pixel peeping they are the same.
I thought always full frame pulls more detailed images
@@MMaven michael i got the RP in the end.
One question my AF operation is stuck in M
On your video it was one shot or servo.
Why is that?
Is that Fred Armisens brother?
RP is not for professional. You can use it for that. But Canon’s pro camera lineup always include that rotating wheel on back
Weight is important, but it seems that Canon and other brands still don't get that.
Excellent
I have noticed that RP has worse color science then R, less saturation
Use DPP
Deadeye a lot of people would say it’s better color science if it gets rid of Canons oversaturated reds.
Pro Camera with one SD slot?? Yeah right.!! You reputation as photographer depends in the single SD slot without backup.
So were there no pro wedding photographers before dual card slots were a thing???
You can back up on your phone automatically while shooting, works good.
Tonie Reeves how easy is it to set up? And is it via Bluetooth or wifi?
@@JCANPetros wifi, and it is easy to set up the camera and the canon app, I love the canon connect app. There are down sides, it.only transfers jpeg, but they look great, and if the screen of your phone shuts off, it disconnects, and if you turn the camera off you have to reconnect. I connect then put my phone in my camera bag, also if i dont use it i transfer all my photos to my phone after i do a shoot.
Scott looks like a movie star, Michael not so much😹
That dude is so tan