Trying to fix my Brother-in-Law’s 10yr old Laptop...
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- My sister said that her 10yr old laptop isn't working and asked if I could fix it... can I? Watch and find out. But probably not.
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Me: Misreads "10yr old Laptop" as "10yr old's Laptop"
Also me: Confused why he's talking about a deployment in Afghanistan
i also thought that!
Same bros...same
Clownie 620th like
I'm the 666th like, Devil is here. BEWARE
Me too
Phil sounds like the guy that will cheer you up whenever you’re down
Anything could be said and he’d make it ten times funnier
Is it just me but is every Phil funny Phil swift and doctor Phil the Phil's are taking over
alot of cheap laptop had chep hss.. bad section is a thing.. i think i found at least 3 system that i need new hdd... pos...
Honestly I think he's just the friend who laughs at everything.
annoying
Much respect, I know the struggle. Taking laptops on deployments suck. It ends up being your only escape device. That’s why I always tell my guys to store their important stuff on an external SSD.
Don't worry🤣🤣🤣
2:09 when your laptop starts reversing
Bruh he do be tho fr
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Will Levine 😂😂
You got me dead💀💀
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Has anyone ever had Windows diagnostic or repair EVER ACTUALLY WORK?
Sure. It's rare that an issue can happen that prevents boot up that isn't caused by a hardware failure though. Most of the time when a computer "suddenly" won't boot up, there have been warning signs that the HDD is going bad that the user has been ignoring or mistaking for just a slow computer. Or, the thing got dropped, but that's another issue. Some corruption to the directory structure could be fixed by a basic chkdsk run (such as from a power failure), and that has been successful a few times. I have worked on computers that would not boot due to someone pulling power during windows udpates, and a startup repair fixed that. In a few cases, a bad driver or software install would fail a boot up, and automatic recovery rolled back to a checkpoint and it booted fine after that (I was pleasantly surprised by that actually). But you're right, in the vast majority of cases, a hardware failure is sort of terminal, and no software solution or fix can possible recover from it.
Its supposed to work? I usually just reinstall windows since I'm not stupid enough to keep my important data on the same physical drive as my OS.
That's a good policy, separation of important data and your OS drive. However, that will only save you from that one drive having problems. You'll of course want to have good backups to the cloud or something else. I'm sure you already have a good backup plan in place since you have technical knowledge of PCs (at least good enough to know to separate your data, and to reinstall Windows if something happens).
I don't think it's supposed to. It's just there to give the plebs something to make themselves feel good.
The automatic repair only works if try every possible solution, fuck it up even more in the process and spend hours trying to fix it. Only then it works for no apparent reason.
Whenever a pc is corrupted i install a lite linux distro on usb. The OS installs in RAM and any files that survived will show up. You can then transfer them to a good HDD.
That's what I would've done lol
The Seeker I'm not 100% sure how it works, and I suck at explaining. Look up videos about "Linux Live USB"
The Seeker No problem 👍
That's a pretty good idea actually. Really gotta keep that in mind (sigh, another USB stick to buy...).
@@TC-uy8ng Thanks for the tip...but I just so happen to have bought a laptop that doesn't have a cd drive in it. So I first have to get USB one first lol
Lol at all the screws. It would be cool to see a followup video sponsored by a data recovery company. Let people see what happens when they send a failed drive off for recovery.
Either the board or platter is replaced. If the platter is damaged they will not recover anything. Also its a very easy process that most people can do themselves with the proper equipment.
Linus did a video on that, actually pretty facinating!
No you dont. Just positive pressure in the room.
Ill have to check out his video, its honestly very easy after you practice on a few trash drives.
Drive Savers? Jk, would be third video then, Linus and Austin did a tour of their office.
But Jay, send it to Drive Savers, they are really goood
Jay: "it's like playi..."
Computer: "BEEEB BEEEB BEEEB!"
Beep*
I can't believe you even tried to turn it on and fix it first. Whenever someone tells me they have important data that needs saving, I immeditatly pull the drive out and try to save what they want on another computer. I've had moments where I was able to get some documents and pictures only to have the drive completly die an hour later.
you could just boot straight into the recovery or preinstallation environment and back up the files from there assuming the harddrive is the only issue
there are plenty of options out there to attempt the recovery yourself. Unfortunately most require you to either have a decent knowledge of something a lot wouldn't know much about (linux or drive partitioning is out of a large number of people's reach), or to pay out a decent slice of money, or both.
Plus there's the "a little knowledge is dangerous" theory. Some peoole know a little bit and think that's enough and completely screw it up, sometimes beyond the point where someone experienced can help. Good luck Jays sister, hopefully it doesn't hurt the bank balance too much.
You can boot from recovery/preinstallation environment media or a Linux live disc without the requirement of a working harddrive, and with virtually no risk of further damaging the drive, so your Bachelor's in Computer Engineering has only failed you in this case by stroking your obviously enlarged ego.
Booting from a Linux/Windows installation disc is a different ballgame since you're booting off a separate medium entirely and not the affected drive. However, I'm happy to admit that I know more about Debian/Linux-based OSes than Windows OS, and your comment inspired me to go read up on Windows PE/RE, so thank you for that.
From what I read it sounds like you get an onboard partition of Windows RE installed with Windows OS and Windows bootloader by default. I would still be hesitant to use any tool installed on the affected drive to repair it, even if it is in a different logical partition. However, you could definitely install Windows PE/RE on a USB and try to repair the drive by booting from that. The key in this situation is to not boot from the drive you're trying to repair.
However, ultimately, if someone came to me with a multiple year old broken computer, had no idea what was wrong with it, and told me their first priority was to recover important files from it, the first thing I'm going to do is go straight to the files or disk image (depending on what I can get at) to back them up. I'm not going to run the cold storage any longer than I need to recover the files because I don't want to risk a hardware failure or an OS/boot error overwriting storage partitions before I have a complete backup. I've done plenty of repairs on old machines where the memory has given out an hour into an OS repair. I've never regretted making a backup when I don't need it, but I sure have regretted not backing up a drive when I really needed the data and ended up losing it.
I'm not saying you can't repair a faulty OS or boot partition with recovery tools installed on the same drive in a separate partition, I'm just saying that I personally wouldn't and it is a lot safer not to. This holds especially true if the drive has sensitive data you're trying to recover on it.
The reason for the lengthy responses is not to bloat my ego, it's to explain why I think what I do, but think whatever you'd like to. My degree certainly has not failed me. Have a nice weekend!
The point of my comment was to show you that your way of thinking, that there is only one way to crack an egg per se, is simply incorrect. If you have an opinion, then state it, but don't mask it as "truth" behind some degree. Windows RE is based off of Windows PE and that was actually inspired by a project called BartPE, which was explicitly designed as a boot CD recovery tool for Windows XP. Essentially, even in the Windows XP days you were able to do crack the egg this way.
Anyone watching: please backup your data!
It’s not fun when a relative brings you an ancient PC and asks you to get the data off of it
And if you can spend some money to help your data, set up a NAS which backs up your data. It doesn’t have to be one of those super fast spf+ with a lot of drive bays, any old pc will do if you shove some drives into it and enable raid.
Robert Mitchell Oh,well said.Not so bad with family,but people you built for over a decade coming up to you at a wedding or funeral with the immortal words “Oh,remember that PC you built me? It’s not working!” After a freaking decade+! Urgh!
Robert Mitchell i usually find it rather humorous, when they loose their data because they didn't follow ny advice. :)
Robert Mitchell what if my backup fails? Should I backup my backup Incase my backup fails? This is backup-ception
Robert Mitchell you can always recover a drive. Just patience and more patience.
Oh, did i mention patience? You need a lot of it.
Your method of data recovery was a horror show!
If you are doing a data recovery from a bad system and have no idea what's wrong, assume the drive is damaged. Never attach the drive to a bad system and power it on. Never mount the filesystem on the drive read/write. NEVER EVER EVER try to boot the OS on the drive, EVER! What you should do is attach the drive to a good system and do an image dump of the entire drive. Then you mount the image dump and attempt to extract the data from that. If the image dump is unmountable, write it to a good drive and attach that to a Windows system and use chkdsk to try to repair the filesystem to get it to a state in which you can mount it. Should chkdsk fail, use this program called recoverjpeg. recoverjpeg will scan the raw data of the image dump and look for jpeg images and will be able to recover them as long as the jpeg image files aren't fragmented.
Basicly, do an image dump of the drive and don't touch the drive again unless you are making an attempt to read certain sectors of the drive again. Do all your work off the image dump.
tux9656 Yep. Just a clicky video this.
Also he was moving the drive constantly while it was on
dude can you do a video would like to see how is done
@@jrgamingstudio3376 Me? A video? I suppose it would be fun to make a video demonstration of data recovery/forensics. I won't promise anything soon or ever. Keep an eye on my channel. Maybe something will show up there at some point.
If you need assistance in the video editing, just ask me. I think you can pass on a lot of knowledge :D
Jay is very easily distracted lol
hours of fun just hearing a pc beeping, funniest thing ever
he didn't pay for the Happy ending🤣🤣🤣
Just call me I can fix your computer
Windows Tech Support thought you were being a douche until I saw ur name lol
jeez. i need to backup all my 22 gig of anime. RIGHT NOW
@@mohammadluqman3807 lol i was thinking im the only one
@@mohammadluqman3807 why are you downloading anime?
@@MARIOGAMEPLAYmariosonicXD hentia
So... is this your brother? Or sister? Or did your sister become a brother or vice versa? I'm so confused.
It's his sister's husband. So his sister is married to the guy that has the broken computer.
@@honda80f 6:47 "Sister in-law hard drive"
@@DrowsyYo bruh XD
I hope it's not his sister married to his brother
@@polygorg "cus-band"
If your adapter is pretty error-tolerant, you can run Reclaime or Recuva for free and scan the drive and it'll just skip past the bad sectors. Or if the drive's firmware has too long of a "retry that sector" timeout and it'd effectively take months to scan it, you can simply run chkdsk on it first with /r /v flags and it will replace/recover all the bad sectors with spares at the end of the drive and then you can very easily recover the rest of the data without hardware pauses every time it hits a bad sector. I've had chkdsk cycles on drives that age and size take less than 12 hours so it's worth a shot and cheaper than full data recovery.
just commenting so i can find this in my history if i break a harddrive or anything like that. So maybe (hopefully not) thanks from future me
Ayy Des! Love your content, keep on keeping on! Why do you watch the same RUclipsrs as me is a mystery I will never solve. And you still sound like you have dark hair ;)
Exactly this guy is clueless, shocking seeing he has 1.5mil subs and is a tech channel.
DesolatorMagic Seagate File recovery! That's the best tool for me to recover data and scan pass through errors! Have saved my butt for many years!
DesolatorMagic.
did you try turning it off and back on again?
sorry.
actually i’m not sorry.
LOL
yeah i know right lol
I didn’t work with Stephen Hawkins.
Your joking
@Whip Ninja maybe the profile picture month's ago was a girl lol,idk
"So what seems to be the problem?"
"It started playing Despacito in 2-bit chiptune..."
What's that
“you didn’t answer me, i said what’s the problem?”
@@DespairMisery what's what
@@LatteWiiU What's that
1st: never mount drives "on the edge of death" in write mode
2nd: it's always safe to do a full clone of the drive (I use Clonzilla) as raw image, and work on copies of that image
3rd: restore the image on a spare HDD (or mount a copy of the image as virtual drive)
4th: try with all the HDD recover tools existing (beginning with chkdsk and going on on) on the 'new' drive
I had to 'recover' multiple time data from a USB voice recorder I used at university when batteries discharged during lessons
I really didn't expect to see some actual good advice in the comments after reading the first few but here it is! You nailed it. :)
Cloning is a fantastic idea but surely it could be a little risky if the failure is mechanical, no? You could pick up a read only usb dock to be certain too.
While this is great advise, I have one better. UrBackup :D
@@danielmastia87 True, you can avoid the expense of using a professional recovery service if you only did a backup to begin with, but people never learn which is why backup companies will always make a profit because people are too lazy and stupid to learn.
I have a hardware cloner, HOWEVER if the drive is borked like so many Dell drives seem to be when I get them, they cannot be cloned. Off to data recovery it goes.
If the drive will clone (I usually do that first) then extraction of data is nearly always possible.
"We have important photos on there, can you recover them?"
"OK I'm just going to start doing random things to it and hope it doesn't wipe itself."
IMAGE THE DRIVE FIRST, JESUS.
dwindeyer Lol how if the drive doesn't even spin?
The fact that the drive doesn't spin is irrelevant in this context. The first 30 seconds of the video should be watching him take the drive out of the damaged laptop. Whether the image process was successful or not doesn't matter.
dwindeyer He doesn't need to do that right away if he can fix it in there.
And even then, it still wouldn't show up
Who cares
Jeremy Clarkson Haha, yeah who cares when someone asks you to rescues important data. Who cares indeed.
dwindeyer He's not a professional and his parents knew it.
Furthermore, he did nothing that could've damaged the drive so a quick call to a data recovery company and boom, done.
You're sad
6:36 this cable is necessary for supplemental power.
8:05 unplugs power cable and forgets to plug it in again...
Wonder if that's why it didn't get past boot sector?
2.5 inch drives don't need the extra power. 3.5 inch drives do need the supplemental power though. I have a sata 3 to USB 3 adapter i use with hard drives when I clone them and have never had to add power to 2.5 inch drives. USB has enough for them.
Can you send me a link of that product?
@@angumech13 we don't know it
A computer with expandibility AND a built in test program...... man if that guy worked for apple he would so be getting fired.
Andrew Joy all Dell laptops I've seen has built in diagnostics tools.
Pretty much every Dell machine has built in pre-boot diags, lots of HPs do too - Lenovo used to have one but it seems to be missing on my X1 carbon... the bastards
5:46 LOL that was hilarious
Zero Assumption Recovery. Great if the Drive still mechanically works somewhat.
A lot of these comments/suggestions seem to miss the fact that this hard is probably physically failing and using recovery software may not work.
Romeo V But totally worth a try. I've had hard drives in the process of failing, used a Linux live CD and recovered enough of the disk to get the data off. Same with Spinrite, recovered enough of the drive to get the data off. It's not perfect but it did the trick. But I understand what you are saying if it's failing send it to the professionals.
I got to recover a 1TB drive once using TestDisk, and the disk had a skipping needle.
Another thing is that he could try using the Hard Drive in a desktop which has more reliable power supply, I had seemingly hardware related issues before using these USB external hard drive enclosures.
Tru dat, I've had drives in USB enclosures fail to spin up because they were pulling too much current.
about the usb part, i've seen drives come back to life when plugged into a motherboard but i'm fairly confident it's the usb bridge that can't pass all the possible ata/scsi/ahci commands to the disk, which since it's in a state of emergency can't read or write.
it's the controller doing the trick not the power supply. :)
As a dell warranty repair person for some time. this made me laugh so hard....
Samuel B y?
so you know borlen hdd are happen alot...
The title says "brother-in-law", in the video you said "sister-in-law", and on twitter you said "sister". WHO'S LAPTOP IS IT?!
StrikerX1360 I’m so lost lol
StrikerX1360 Sometimes, people refer to their brother/sister in law as brother or sister.
1-800-CALL-JERRY
Talking is hard.
But i think it's his brother-in-law computer and he is doing it so that his sister doesn't lose her photos, which are in the said brother-in-law computer for some reason.
"Air"
Ok you keep switching between sister, brother, sister in law, and brother in law. WHO IS IT? MAKE UP YOUR MIND MAN!!!!!
shut up
his sister and her partner
@@MrSr3nity_97 Eh
Super Twitchy it is 2018 it can be both
He said his sister-in-law and her dude
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Interrupting laptop.
Interrupting laptop... beep, beep, beep
Humanity is evolving
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAGAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Vicar of Dibly
@@olifitzgerald what?
There is a youtube channel I follow called HDD Recovery Services. The guy does exactly this. I get the impression he's relatively cheap compared to other companies and he's REALLY good at it too. I can't tell you how many times I see him get a drive that someone else tried (and failed) to recover and he was able to do it. I love his channel. Sadly since covid-19 he's not very active anymore and he's only fixing USB drives and SD cards at the moment. I get the impression that after covid he's going to have a massive backlog of spinners queued for recovery. I love watching him swap the heads, resoldering SSD components, etc...
when you have 100 1080ti's and 99 8th gen i9's right behind you but just let your brother use a crappy 8 years old laptop
Eduardo u did3nt listen did u?
and you cant read.
See title, check description... sister/brother in law
so sad that the fact of being brother/sister in law matters to your affection with your family
So sad your transgender likes it up the arse
Eduardo I don't know about your relationship with your sister ,but if I told my sister to get a new laptop I'd get a look that would make Satan think twice.
Sister in law (6:50) AND brother in law (title)... wait.. wat?
Maybe he don't know anymore, or maybe during the filming his brother, with a PTSD from the War, or watching his brother operate, blow some fuses and decided to become transsexual.
If they are his wife's brother/sister and spouse then they would both be his in-laws.
To be honest I think the video is a bit uncanny, and the more I question it, along with questioning if that man has any skills, the creepier it gets.
why did he do this
srsly which one is it
he even says brother at the beginning of the video 0:18 . hmmmm something's not right......
The laptop is trying to censor you Jay. It was anticipating when you would swear.
Videos like this are important because sometimes we CAN'T solve a problem. Learning that is harder than learning how to fix things :/
It's painful to me that you didn't try Linux to recover it. I'm 98% positive that you could have recovered the drive just by booting into Linux.
Thats the first thing i do, when i got a machine with windows that is not booting, i use a live usb with linux to recover the stuff if possible :)
yeah, it was painful to watch, I have life ubuntu distro on USB for this cases, gparted and parted are lifesavers
absolutely, that works every little time that i try.
Yup. Either gparted or ddrescue to a donor drive would've possibly helped.
Absolutely, I run a YUMI drive with SRCD and Ubuntu, plus the Windows 10 installer and a buttload of space for backups. Works every time, though installing Windows is always painful on a HDD, as is GPartEd.
You could try spinrite, I hear people having success with it on SSDs as well.
I'm also surprised jay didn't try spinrite, but maybe he didn't want to use third-party software in the video?
Yeah, I've used Spinwrite to save a few things.
I tried Spinrite after my mom's laptop had a similar problem. Windows would take 3 hours to boot in normal mode, and 1.5 hours for safe mode. But she had pictures and documents that she needed. A friend of mine that has been in IT for several years recommended Spinrite. I ran it several times, and I was able to get all of her data off. Put in a new hard drive and reinstalled Windows 7 for her. She's a happy camper.
I once rescued an entire years worth of code development from a failing hard drive using Spinrite (no backups). I got a bottle of scotch for it :)
Yeah, spinrite has saved my ass so many times with failing harddrives. I haven't had the opportunity to use it on SSD yet though.
I am, however, almost looking forward to a performance degradation on one so that I can experience a level two scan fix. Yeah, I'm sick and twisted after all these years in IT...
This is horrendous! Not only do you not yank the drive and put it in the sled immediately, you don't run ANY real drive recovery tools outside windows built in ones. You should have at least tried opening it in a Linux livecd, or attempt a sector by sector repair using a tool like Spinrite. Hell, even try a few drive manufacturer's software - I've seen Seagate's Seatools temporarily repair a HDD multiple times.
What do you expect? He barely found the drive bay lol.
+Benjamin
Just what I was going to suggest. Boot the laptop off a Linux LiveUSB and see if it gets mounted. If it isn't, use testdisk to try and recover the partition info or pull the files out of the partition. If that doesn't work use foremost or photorec to recover the files in sector by sector mode. And if nothing works. Time to pull the drive, put it in the freezer and after a few hours put it back in and it should work long enough to copy everything to an external usb hdd.
Running spinrite on a SATA disk can be a pain in the ass as some SATA controller chipsets dont work with it, but it's totally worth a try if you don't want to send it to a recovery company due to cost. Usually the lockup is caused by the drive continuously trying to read a bad sector and never getting a good read that it can reallocate from. In these situations ive had some good results from spinrite. Some people tend to hate on spinrite, but i'm just going on how many times it has worked for me. (Spinrite will HAMMAR the drive trying to read the bad sector from various head locations and attempt to statistically figure out the data over many reads. It's not the sort of thing you want to do if you plan to send it for professional recovery. Since the extra stress can cause hardware failures and make it harder for a professional recovery company to fix.) But it's totally worth a try otherwise.
Relax folks. He even said he didn’t have the skills of recovering data, and probably shouldn’t try all your suggestions since we were trying to recover the data. The brother in law might be better off with a specialist who has done this kind of operation a thousand times.
Sinjara Good stuff. I’m happy for you. But it doesn’t change the fact that it is completely stupid to mess with something you don’t know a thing about. The action taken can turn out to be the worst ever. Imagine that you lost all your wedding pictures, evidence for a case in court (or something else important to you) and you decided to google your way through and messed up. How smart are you then?
"It has been on an Afghan deployment."
I see this laptop is a man of culture
9:33 Copying 9001 items from Work to Archive
Name: SUPER_IMPRTANT_STUFF.mp4
Time remaining: About FOREVER minutes
Items remaining: Over Nine Thousand
Jonah don’t be a smartass, The file is called that
Jonah r/wossssssshhhhhh
Jonah oof
Jonah oof
Jonah oof
Super_important_stuff. mp4.. 😏😏😏
At 373MB/s though... That's a lot of stuff
Over 9000
Alberto Routwell So can you help me to get out of there.. 😎😎😂😂😂
I do this kind of work daily. Tons of people still use 10 year old machines.
Hey. If it works then why upgrade? I still use my thinkpad T420 and I still love it and it still does the job. Light gaming, video editing, 1080p60fps youtube, whatever I want to do on the go it never lets me down.
WaifuRacer Agree with you.
I do as a matter of fact
My dad still owns and uses a 15 year old ThinkPad T40 laptop.
I have been force to use an Optiplex 760 for like 5 years now because i can't afford anything newer so i can confirm that.
Am i the only one that cant stop looking at all of those pc parts in the background? im so jealous 😢
The computer wants you to shut up (lol)
Not fun
I'm glad Jay quickly gave up on just trying to repair the OS on the old laptop. Take the boot drive out, check the S.M.A.R.T. readings, and if it's damaged cloning it onto a new working drive. Professional disk recovery software is widely available these days.
Of course if it won't even spin, then hard drive surgery is basically your only option.
Here's the steps I've had success with in the past:
Prep) Cross fingers.
1) Run ddrescue from a Linux bootable disc to sector-by-sector clone drive to another donor drive of a larger capacity to ensure there is adequate space. (Can and will take hours or days to complete based on how bad the source drive is)
2) Run full chkdsk /r on donor drive partition with data
3) Profit.
4) If this doesn't work, professional data recovery to the tune of thousands.
5) Educate client/family member about Google Photos.
Pfff noobs backup to the cloud you simply need a second hard drive connected to your router.
213423 134242 and unless that’s a pair of drives in RAID 1, you still have a local point of failure. Even still a small risk with RAID 1.
I rather trust the cloud than my HDD, using Google Photo save me a couple of time because the failure of HDD. And know what, the HDD that Im using is NAS, got 2 of it in drive bay that are setup for RAID.
1) You might need to fiddle around, because the drive shuts down (or at least the firmware). So instead of retrying secors, ddrescue should "reboot" the drive. I don't know if something like that is built in.
2) You could just copy it to a ISO image. You can store that one on any hard drive.
3) Hopefully
4) Not as expensive as you might think. A drive with that symptomes might cost you less than $1000, as it still shows up in Windows.
5) Or an external Hard Drive. Google Drive has corrupted one file before for me.
ThyBonesConsumed yeet
The timing of the beeps r the funniest part 😆
I thought he would just use the HDD in another PC...
As he demonstrated it barley had life to send and receive data or power.
I thought he would too being all techy
Ive found linux can be pretty good at accessing damaged NTFS filesystems as an initial step in file recovery. YMMV though.
Sister or brother laptop?? Im confused
E-Wolf Team sister in law probably? Or maybe brother in law?
Androgynous gang
or might be a transgender nigga
His sister is married to a guy, that guy is a brother-in-law to jay.
It’s a trap
Phil’s laugh is just too much, it’s more contagious than COVID
Brother or sister Jay????
DeadHunter 1998 we need to know dang it!
Paradox... Or mispell
It's proof he is making his vids about fake family member. Why fucking lie there is no point like it wasn't even a mistake from "sister" to "brother" it was brother-in-law
DeadHunter 1998 It is his sister's and her husband's
It's more brother and sister in law.
Spinrite bro. How do you not already have it?
Spinrite is great and may work but it requires a MBR. If the HDD was formatted with a GPT(as most modern computers are) it wont work.
Hack the Gibson!
David Cameron it's not a modern computer it's 11 years old. I just did it on a 5 year old computer for someone complaining of their system being slow, dropped boot time by an entire minute. Although I did have to mount the drive in one of my older systems for compatibility.
Problem with spintrite is it's a destructive recovery. If it does something derpy, your even more boned.
Robert Cusick Not on Level 2. Level 2 only tries reading the data and forcing the HDD to swap the sectors itself. Level 4 is the rewriting function.
As a Government IT guy, this is comedy gold. Dell inspirons are my bread and butter. Taking the whole machine apart to get to the hard drive, trying to boot at all when diagnostic is screaming lol. Diagnostic only can tell when the mechanicals are doomed. Oops Spose that's what happens when you only diagnose brand new hardware all the time.
Eric Swenson I can only begin to imagine just how hellish working IT for the state must be. Especially in comparison to private industry IT.
inferno Well, in my department, we’re actually pretty autonomous and have lots of leeway. So things aren’t bad really. The issues that are there are from fragmentation and varying from levels of competence throughout the state because of that fragmentation.
r/iamverysmart
Kenny What? How am I being haughty?
considering I am pursing a degree in CIS which is partly IT how do you like the job? Any tips?
I have that same laptop, first thing I bought myself after 3 months of working my first job. In 2010. Love it
Man... you could try to boot this using PartedMagic or WinPE or HirensBootCD and just made a drive recover or backup and then format with a new HD. And man... sorry, when you started to take the notebook apart you looked like a NOOB... :D LOLOLOL
Guga Caldeira I usually try to run HD sentinel first to see if I can get a general idea on HDD health. Since it passed the boot process that’s probably already good news.
After getting a general idea its straight to Linux. If the fails along with the recovery tools in Linux rstudio is last resort in a win PE
Dylan Coulbeck thumb up 👍
this is one of the comments, that actual is helping.
Dylan Coulbeck I normally use HirensBoot because it pack together a lot of tools, even Linux tools to recover HDD’s, my favorite is PartesMagic. The problem is that he did a “try to read” a possible damaged HDD on windows and that is a very noob move, since windows will try a simple mount that won’t work of course because is windows. This hdd possible need some testes and calibration and rotate speed tests, and I think he can recover it and all its data, however he gave up to quickly and only did a single try on windows 10, using a USB adapter. I would put the hdd back on the notebook and then try some useful tools to check its health and see if I at least could recovery the data on it. After that I would swap tha HDD with a new one and the notebook will be good as news.
Guga Caldeira you spelt tests like a abbreviation of testicles! XD
The SeaTools from Seagate work well and just running a SMART test on a drive can tell you a pretty good story.
THIS is why I subscribed
Dennis ten Hoove to see real world scenarios and possible solutions for those scenarios. Just because he couldnt fix it this time, doesn't mean it wouldn't work for a similar user. Many people don't know you can access some files by remotely accessing a drive, many people assume if a computer won't boot, they've lost everything but because of videos like this, they might get a last ditch chance to recover a few things using a technique they never thought of
yeah i like it too. shows you that the real world always has failures.
This is so remedial, I just unsubscribed.
Ugh, I miss the Screen Savers.
For the shitty videos?
hey.. why you dint try BOOT LINUX AND BACKUP ALL FILE
That would be the first thing I would do :/
I saved files once with a bootable Linux USB. Windows couldnt even open the drive, like Jay!
Once on Linux I was able to save all my files.
Windows 10 cant read a Windows Boot partition you need linux or some special Software to open the Partition. Some times people dont know anything about Windows. I hate these people.
Video was lame but i least i learned something from the comment section.
Not a good approach. It is always safer to take drive out and access from working computer. If you are using the broken computer, there might be hardware failure, which can cause that you will lose all the data regardless of which OS you use. Actually, Jay himself made quite big mistake when he actually turned that broken laptop on with that drive. You should never do that with unknown computer. Always use tested, working computers to access the important data.
Boot into linux. Sometimes windows doesn't like to load harddrives that have errors. Linux is much more tolerant. I have had harddrives fail to open on windows but they will open fine on Linux.
And here I was, expecting you to slap in a live Linux recovery distro on a USB, access the data, and copy it on a blank USB or something. Imagine my shock when you started to TAKE THE DAMN THING APART FOR NO REASON!
I'm an idiot, and even I kept my linux mint ISO on a flash drive because it'd be useful if this kind of thing happens.
Omfg exactly thats what i would have expected but nooooo, only tool he can use is freaking microsoft paint
@@stevethea5250 obviously then that wouldn't help if the disk is actually damaged, but it could have been a working one as well, he couldn't know if he didnt try
Exactly
This is exactly what he should have done. The number of views and upvotes on this video with the way he went about that...wow, just wow.
You can still recover a hard drive with bad sectors even if it wont show up as a readable drive in windows. You can use linux and gparted to clone the hard drive over to a new working drive, then recover the drive with data recovery software which will rebuild the lost sectors.
Simple googling will lead you to several tutorials.
And nowadays you don't even need terminal knowledge because everything is cheesed with guis.
@rebilacx: I had to do that one on a colleague's laptop which's hard drive had a few bad sectors. As a luck of stroke, I had a slightly used hard drive which was the exact make and model of the troubled one, in this case "Western Digital WD2500BEVT". Using CloneZilla to clone the entire hard drive while skipping bad sectors, I managed to fully recover his laptop. Next thing I did was to image the cloned hard drive to make a backup. After that, his laptop ran fine again. Some people really are lucky devils these days!
that is unless the HD is totally fkced! I bet it was on and it was thrown around while workin in afgan territory... Should have fully turned it off before working in the field... Other than that can't really blame em, more important shit to do than focusing on the laptop when doing that kind of job... Bottom line is, only HD was fucked because of it, all major components still functioned properly!
@@romancvijanovic7130 The terminal is still a very powerful tool.
@@roylastname9367 Obviously it is and for certain tasks terminal with scripts is much better than a GUI only solution. It's just that with a GUI you can do tasks without a lot of knowledge which would require deep knowledge if you were to tackle them via the terminal.
Or to put it simply:
GUI: +Little knowledge necessary | - slower for certain tasks
Terminal: +You can do practically everything | - a lot of knowledge/experience necessary
This is another good reason to BACK-UP important files onto an external drive/disc. A CD/DVD/USB drive for example!
So the lesson is: Always pay for the happy ending.
All Dells and Alienwares have built in Diags from the beginning of their existence (dell has AW inherited it). Actually pretty cool feature and has saved me lots of time TS machines and getting replacement parts from Dell.
My pc wiped itself out after I cancelled the windows 1903 update, bruh gamer moment
Windows 1903 has a tendency to do that. Since you are restoring to a time the windows didnt exist.
Zeus Incoming2 I ended up paying 100 dollars to fix it and then ended up restarting it so lol
0:36 that was me when i was little
That was all of us
Mission failed,we will get them next time
Alberto Routwell Excellent question,I was counting on you to answer it.
Alberto Routwell “them”, clearly.
50,000 people used to live here. Now, it's a ghost town...
I'm just watching and face-palming so hard, as to how easy it would be to recover data from that hdd, if only he would do like little research.. It's easy and free..
How?
savior139 plenty of good, and even free, software for recovering files..
Exactly my thoughts. There's a Hiren's BootCD which is totally free and can be "burned" to a USB drive (but no need for that as this laptop has an optical drive). It would probably helped with that. He could even try to boot any Linux distro from a USB drive and try to read and copy data on the disk.
savior139 hire s boot CD is the most popular one.
If it's mainly photos, I've had GREAT results with PhotoRec. Works even on OSX!
4:23 "We just need to make sure that Windows doesn't automatically wipe itself..."
Like an old man who thinks a bidet is a water fountain.
Hearing Phil lose it always makes me lose it 😂😂😂
Try on linux... I got sale problem and booted on linux mint got data backup and done
Couldn't you put the disc inside a new hard drive reader?
Everytime I can "dead" drives I always use Linux and it works every time
"Dont read" "Broken"
so... you guys CLAIM the mbr and partition table couldnt be read because the drive is broken???
Hell, even windows could read at least those sectors, acknowledging at least 2 partitions, then fail on reading the middle of directory chain /table. That is neither "broken' nor "dont read"- that is just some bad sectors that LINUX can work around
ateb3 start linux connect hdd backup files throw hdd
If he doesn't have the expertise to recover the data, he may have no clue how to use the linux tools which maybe or maybe not able to get around the problem. But if the controller is the issue then not even linux data recovery tools will able to help, and he was correct in getting the drive to a data recovery company as they have ways around that.
jays brother married jays sister. family love!
A Brother-In-Law is the man who marries your sister
Your sister's husband
Naruto Uzumaki XD
When there is critical data on a drive and the system is not booting, pull the drive immediately for external recovery. The more you run a failed drive in an unknown state the lower your chances of recovering the data. Face palmed a few times when I was watching Jay take out all the screws to get to the drive... lol guess some of us aren't afraid to learn while the world is watching. Hope your sister gets her pictures back and love the channel!! :)
'Not that kind of happy ending'.......right with you Bro....LMAO
If you want to ask somebody what doesnt work, ask him "what is happening after you press the power button?"
that comes to more success
I thought it was you brother in law's laptop how did it transition to your sister's laptop?
Nuwl they probably share it
sithlordmaster181 No grammar nazis on my Christian server
SmashStomp Inc Hence why Men shouldnt get married anymore ;)
Dude, learn Linux. You can recover or even fix bad hard drives using Linux, even recovering data after being formatted, and also unlock a locked windows account if no admin is available. It upset me to see you give up so easily knowing Linux could have saved you a lot of hassle. You should check into it so you can expand your talent.
Corey Bailey Linux sucks nowadays
xCynder why is that?
@@xCynder could you explain that?
Nothing to learn but bash really,
Linux is super easy nowdays.
I just would use tails to get the data back
@HY HY Actually most distros are lighter than Windows.
Maybe, KDE is heavier, a big maybe.
Jay has some pretty impressive real time tear down skills
A lot of the time people move their laptop really fast, while it's running. If you have a HDD in there, the head actually touches the platter in that instance. And when it does, it's game over.
With SSDs we don't have this problem anymore 😃
Worst case scenario without having to take anything apart you could always use an external hard drive and boot Linux to move files
I thought he would use a Linux distro to save his photos first, just in case he would break anything
To restore HDD in this state, I'm using Acronis True Image Bootable CD, make a full backup of the drive, ignore all corrupted sectors errors and then restore the backup to a good drive, it will work! Don't worry if it will take hours to make the backup
Man those computer repairs must be stresful dude is totaly grey in the hair and he aint even that old
Folk expect you donate a kidney if you won’t\can’t fix their PCs! It’s a mad game.
potato potato potato potato potato potato potato I'm jealous. White hair is cool...
At least he has hair.
Wait, couldn't you just have done a chkdsk /r on your laptop, Jay? If not, many have said lynux, but there's bootable ISO software that scans, recovers, and moves over sectors. I used Spin Rite once for this (it took ages, but it got the job done). Recuva is also a nice software.
that thumbnail LOL
10/10
this last week i have spent time ressurecting a very old computer in its early teens (13) which was bought in 2006 and newly installed with Vista. It literally took 15 mins to go into vista and would take about a minute to load any program, and often they would hang. my friend had broken the screen on her modern laptop, so i told her if i could ressurect the old computer she could have it. She had no money to upate it. after some thought i decided that it was probably vista that was causing the problem not the hardrive and the computer was too old for any other windows after vista. After some thought i decided i would try a linux install. I decided my friend would like kabuntu the most and so after a few problems, i installed that. the moment i completed the install, and it rebooted, the teenager came back to life. Vista had never recognised the wifi, kabuntu recognised it immediately. it wasnt the fastest, but it would run dvds, internet, youtube etc at a normal speed speed, and word process which was what she needed there were no problems with the hardware at all. sometimes all an old machine needs is an OS that is more friendly to old machines and this is something that should be considered when ressurecting old pcs. my friend is more old school than the computer, so isnt scared of the terminal. i set a wallpaper of a peppermint rose on the desktop, and she instantly named the computer after the wallpaper i added a blutooth dongle which i new she was happy using.. The old computer went from something that was sitting in the back of a cupboard for a decade to a computer with a new name, a happy user and new home:) sometimes techies look at a computer in terms of what they would want, not what the end user needs. This is often the reason old computers are considered junk.
Jay: The secret to immortality IS -
Computer: *Bleep Bloop*
You've never repaired a laptop before have you?
i took out my hard and it failed and i followed a really high rated tutorial and there were some inportant pics on it
Dale Sperling Windows 7 didn't exist 10 years ago. It was originally XP or Vista.
@Bloofa, these recovery soft are complete trash, they exist only to get money from noobs. all these programs doing same what chkdsk command lines does in cmd. If you can't extract with cmd from bad sector than only option you have is bring it to laboratory.
Lol looks like a registry problem easy fix
@@armandb.8737 are you seriously suggesting that chkdsk is the end-all be-all consumer grade data recovery software? You are joking, right?
Oh man, when you realize just how well designed those machines was, easy access to the ram and swapping the HDD is a breeze, try to do that with most modern consumer grade laptops...Heck i can't even take out the battery of my brand new laptop without taking the whole freaking under piece out and undoing a bunch of screws and disconnecting internal connections...Thanks Toshiba, computers are a bit like the automotive industry, the more innovative the less serviceable they become.
That's the price we pay if we need slimmer devices. Same thing happened with phones too
I have a Dell inspirion 15 7000 series that i bought a view months ago. :) It just takes 1 screw to take off the entire buttom part giving you access to to ram, ssd, pci ssd even fans and so! :)
I would give 10 likes if I could. Just received keyboard for Acer Aspire E5. Friggin piece of metal was help up to a plastic front part by plastic itself ( call them rivets or something). Gotta pick up some glue or epoxy to hold this shit together again.
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Still having my Dell C510, and what a fine machine it is really.
"What's this?"
*That's the hard drive*
*INTENSE LAUGHING*
"Realizes that all these screws were pointless"
Is it for your brother or your sister I’m not sure anymore 0:18 9:35
AZ3 The Dragon Yeah, he says Sister-in-law @6:49 . I guess that was a slip of the tongue.
It is Jay's Brother-In-Law's Laptop who is married to Jay's Sister... SO by proxy the laptop is both Sister and Brothers laptop... The "Sister-In-Law" comment at 6:49 was a Freudian slip.
Should have replaced it with a SSD inorder to reduce heat & avoid burns on your lap & SSD makes old laptops really fast in terms of booting up, etc
Hell yeah, a SSD on a Core2duo would really offer a good performance boost. But for seeing the guy just destroying a hard drive, it's hopeless.
Hi, SSD's are not a good option for multiple writing as they are prone to failure. If you can you should put your operating system on an SSD and your data on a standard HDD. This way you get the best of both worlds. The speed of loading the OS and applications of the SSD and also the reliability of the HDD for your data. You may say, "ah yes but your data should be backed up" correct. But why burn through expensive SSD's if you don't have to?
In the video he said it was for his brother but the title says sister????
It is his brothers laptop but his brother wife, aka sister in law, aka sister, is the one who uses it, based on what he said throughout the video
It was for his brother in law. So his sister's husband.
He specifically says sister in law at one point
akiraokami Considering everything else says it's for his brother in law I'm gonna guess that was a mistake
Hey, my dad still has one of those. Literally exactly the same, color and all.
This'll be fun.
you should have run DDRescue on it, as you wanna avoid reading from it unnecessarily as that will break it even more
Try turning it off and then on
When you wish you had a backup for your hard drive, when I realize the last backup I did was 2 years ago...
Brb...
This mans video image made me laugh so hard for using that meme 🤣😂😂
"Speaking of happy endings, we are doing a huge giveaway right now!" -JayzTwoCents
I'm reading all this comments but I don't have any idea what they saying 😂
okkk yeah I know what you mean. The only difference is that I studied it when I had an interest in it and I kind of understand what they mean
Matthew Kropilnicki same hahah
When somebody was getting me a PC I immediately researched parts and functions.
Is HDD Regenerator or Spinrite an option for the hard drive that you want to get the files off of? I've used both with success.
I also have a client with 2 OLD ASS laptops. A Dell Latitude D820 and D830. One has the Core 2 Duo T7300 the other with a Core Duo T2500. One still has the old IDE connection for the HDD.
In my case, buying Spinrite paid for itself the first time I used it. It was a similar situation with "precious" photos on a drive that would no longer boot. It made the drive good enough to get the files off of it at least and then just replaced the drive and transferred the pics back after a clean install. The person was referred to me by a regular client and in turn they ended up being a regular client as well.
HDD regenarator has rarely failed me
I'm actually using HDD Regenerator on a disk I use for video storage right now. I like it because it can be ran from Windows as long as it's not the boot drive being repaired on the computer that I'm using.
I like how this is so real. he did not script anything.. the bad news is the bad news.