I'm not sure. I think, starting with Unity, they really took away a lot of our control and made things much more contextual and simple. So, if they did that again for an AC1 Remake, it would really disappoint me. If they kept the number of unique actions that could be done from AC1-Rev, but paired them with the shiny animations from Unity, though, that'd probably be the best that movement will ever be.
@@LeoKRogue I'm not sure but besides with the lack of Ledge Grab, is there any mechanic/s that has been removed? I mean the introduction of Free run is literally the best thing they ever made, even though it's unfinished/clunky.
This, I feel, was the essence of the Assassin's Creed. Truth be told, I was interested in AC games as long as they promised the Juno-related Infinity War-type-thing happening...No point for me playing the newer games but I digress. The older games were constantly challenging your mind. Not the challenges of survival like some Dark Souls-type games have, but the challenges of mastery and perfection of your skills. The way you move through the city, the way you fight, the way you assassinate... Everything was a puzzle. You could be as effective as you want to be, always aware of your surroundings whether there are annoying peasants on the street, some tricky free-run/climbing structures or vigilant guards... An assassin always finds a way to use these surroundings to his favor. Later though, when almost every action became automated...It just started to feel like you're just an observer. You just point the direction.
"You could be as effective as you want to be," is really what it comes down to. In the newer games, this philosophy essentially changes to, "You will be as effective as we tell you to be." Assassin's Creed used to be about seizing Freedom from a system of oppression, and this manifested both in the story AND in gameplay. Players were truly Free, but this Freedom was terrifying to achieve if you didn't know what you were doing. You had to really push yourself, and attempt things that could cause you to Desynchronize or take damage. If you had the will and the knowledge, you could do it. Players would teach each other, propagate knowledge, give each other little hints and guides and tutorials, making each other stronger -- making the Brotherhood stronger. I miss that feeling.
I know this video is 3 years old but I just discovered it as aI'm replaying these old AC's, so thank you, it's really useful! A couple of missed things I'd add: - When you're sprinting and release high profile in the ezio saga while you are passing next to npc's so you don't tumble to the ground, you have the risk of robbing them and some guards might see you and get annoyed. Or sometimes you want to do a sudden stop in that group of people to become stealth but release the button too late, you rob one of those people and the group disassembles, ruining your cover - If you are climbing or on a roof and you time the high profile and empty hand buttons badly you will perform a jump and land on an npc, which can not only take you out of your desired course but also make guards instantly notice you and get aggressive, which is awful if you were trying to escape from someone else lol
You're very welcome. I cringe very hard whenever I hear that, but they're not to blame. It makes sense why they would feel that way, and my video's greatest Hope is that it helps out those players who are making mistakes without knowing why, as well as soothe players who've always known how reliable AC1-Rev controls truly are.
@@LeoKRogue Yes, sorry if I sounded a bit arrogant or a know-it-all ! But it pains me that so many people do not get to appreciate the depth of AC parkour mechanics. That's what made the game so enjoyable when I started playing them in 2007
You sounded like nothing of the sort, I relate 100%. Consider what we're left with now. No advanced movement tech of any kind. What defines success or failure is the 50 hours before we engage into a situation (Gear, XP) not our behavior within the actual situation itself (decision-making, skill). It's aggravating and a clear step down.
@@LeoKRogue Odyssey is the first AC game I couldn't get myself to finish... I'm not hating on the game, I'm glad that so many people liked it. But like many others, it feels like it's an entirely different experience. Not the one I fell in love with
A common sentiment among players who've stuck with the franchise from the beginning all the way up until now. Not to mention that Odyssey uses various methods to artificially extend its playtime which are... Quite exhausting. I think that's the most frequently mentioned experience among players who were just looking for a tight, enjoyable game. Exhausting. There's not only a lot to do, you *have* to do a huge amount of it just to be permitted to progress. I can hate Odyssey without hating the players who love it, as long as they extend me the same courtesy. A lot of them haven't, so I've ripped on those people. It's no one in *MY* comments sections, mostly folks on Reddit, but y'know. It's a thing.
Very odd that most people who said "yeah my character does what I don't want him to do" never really tried, y'know, not pressing every button at the same time. :P
Up until I bought the Ezio trilogy (couple days ago) I had only played Origins and Odyssey, the parkour in the older games are way more enjoyable and it isn’t as frustrating as I was told
Yeah controls are great must people that complain about them are like a buddy of mine who sucks at button inputs yet always says it’s bad controls I’ll grab his controller show him it’s simply him then he goes on to breaking his controller and has a hassle fit
I'm glad you feel this way but I just restarted ac4 on pc and had to youtube this to find out how to get off from a hanging ledge. Other games have a crouch button.
Man, I had forgotten about all this. I remember playing Assassin's Creed for the first time, slowly learning these techniques through (lots of) trial and error. From starting out sprinting everywhere and jumping off everything, every little thing you learned was a mini lightbulb moment, and it made you feel like a real badass when you felt you mastered a new technique. Simplifying the movement system, like they've done, really sacrifices this feeling of achievement, even if it does make the game more "accessible" in the short term. Thanks for the nostalgia trip, Leo. Best part about Classic AC movement is, even after all these years, thinking I mastered these games, I watch this video, and I see some stuff that I've never really tried before. I think I'm going to buy these games on PC so I can enjoy them all over again.
That's a pretty solid way of describing the incredible sensation of slowly increasing our Sync with these ancient guardians of free will, yup. It's a hundred tiny moments that add up to a singular realization, and the cycle repeats until you 'click' into the next discovery. What's more, simplifying the movement system doesn't just degrade the feeling of growth, it also just guts any sense of individuality or player-expression. My movement in AC1-Rev looks very different to the movement of certain other players. My movement in AC Odyssey is exactly the same as everyone else's. There's nothing to set each other apart or express our own unique style. I very much recommend grabbing your favorites on PC and playing them again. Assassin's Creed at 60fps is an incredible feeling.
I know this is late but i've been playing AC2 and brotherhood recently and this guide really helps me with the movement. Before this just like you said i basically just kept holding the free run button, now my gameplay feels so smooth. Thx for the guides man
@@LeoKRogue wow thanks, amazing guide! I had been thinking AC would be too hard for me from watching tutorial level playthroughs- this makes sense of it all! Can’t wait to see other vids from you
I miss those times when parkour used to be a gameplay element. Now you can climb up pretty much any fucking thing you set your eyes on without even thinking. I like puzzles and the previous parkour systems just gave me that....but the new ones are just mindless gameplay.
Didn't see this video. This sounds relaxing as a quiet forest. Information on Assassin's Creed classics. Like a hot damn date with candles and everything. Aged like fine wine.
This is one of the most analytical and well thought over pieces of video game content I've ever seen Speaking as someone in the competitive fighting game community it's the highest compliment I can give to tell you that you think about this game As if it's a multiplayer game and you have something to lose if you don't know every little mechanic at your disposal for this you earned my respect. Edit this comment was made when I was about nine minutes into the video and immediately after resuming the video you immediately compared execution in ac to fighting games I love you and have now subscribed
Thanks Payton! This is a pleasant surprise, because I'm actually shocked someone feels this way. The reason is the following: if you look at my Rogue Academy - AC Unity Advanced Guide, I get _so many_ comments being like "PFFT how can someone be bad at a single-player game?" "Why would you need a mechanics-guide for this game when there's no multiplayer?" As if people don't grasp there's innate pleasure to getting _better_ at something you already enjoy, and perhaps lots of players might wish to do so. You can imagine this is kind of irritating to see, especially for people like you and me. But yeah, this is the way I've been accustomed to looking at games, and I kind of bring it to everything. There's always a reason to try to learn more and figure out all the 'tech' we have access to, in anything. It's just a nice, enjoyable mindset that can raise the fun to be had in pretty much anything we apply it to.
For someone who is playing older ac games now, this video is god-send. I hope videos like this existed for every game just to help novice gamers know what they are getting on before they mess something big. Thank you and keep up the effort.
I'm replaying all the ac games in preparation for valhalla, and your guides are super valuable to even a veteran like me who was never fully conscious of all this. thank you for these videos
Thanks so much Dr. Fop, I hope you keep enjoying the series. Assassin's Creed is amazing. As an oldskool player who began with AC1, I'm looking forward to Social Stealth and one-hit stealth kills returning. I missed all that stuff. :D
@@LeoKRogue As someone who started in revelations I found myself constantly switching stealth/combat mechanics and never really got attached to any of them. Since then I went to 100% every game. Although I like the newer games more than most people, as I really appreciate Isu lore, the tie-in to Greek mythology, as well as the combat system. However I do miss social stealth and the more fleshed out present day missions. Imo, if they combine modern combat with unity stealth and ezio trilogy platforming, it would be perfect
Just started playing OG AC lately and my god, Catch Ledge was so godly. I hope Valhalla has a mix of Catch Ledge and Parkour Down. And I thought the "Side Ejects" in Unity were fun, going back to old AC, feeling the freedom of True Side Ejects in that has made navigation so much more fun, especially since I'm playing without the minimap (and HUD altogether). Thanks for all your videos, Leo, they played a big part in me getting back into this series last year around Christmas time. Before then, I avoided Assassin's Creed like the plague because of feeling underwhelmed from, and betrayed by, the modern day ending to ACIII. I even went so far as to buy into every negative thing said about every game after Unity just to reaffirm how right my choice is to be done with the AC franchise. But as of this comment, for the past 7 months, I have had a damn good time with Unity, Odyssey, AC1, and KIND OF a good time with Syndicate. It bores me now, but I will always respect it for being the first game I played after an 8 year abstinence from the series. Now I'm revisiting AC2 and love how much grander the modern story gets at this point in the series, along with how engrossing Ezio's character is right off the bat. Just wanted to express that this morning because I woke up excited to jump right back into AC2 after a late night playing the crap out of it. I just beat AC1 yesterday and it felt like such a chore to look and play past the jank, all for the sake of enjoying the story. Moving on to AC2 and experiencing (on what my imho is) the best AC game reminded me of how much AC captured my imagination and philosophical intrigue a decade ago. So thanks so much for what you do.
Catch Ledge and at-will Ejects just make such a world of difference and contribute majorly to the feeling that you can move anywhere, at any time. You're very welcome for the videos, people like you and stories like yours are a huge factor and inspiration behind why I do what I do. We all just love these games, and we just want to love them the most we can. I really enjoy helping out with that. :D
There was this one time that I had just assassinated my target. And then I tried going low profile from the assassination area to the bureau. It was practically mind blowing that I would just walk past the guards in the escape phase.
I've played classic ACs with both MnK and controller. One thing I noticed is that having button discipline on the high profile button is much more intuitive with a controller than with MnK. When I play with a controller, it's kind of hard to hold both high profile button and action button while controlling the camera with the right stick, it actually makes sense intuitively to release the high profile button for most of the time; whereas it's relatively easy to hold multiple keys/buttons and control the camera with a mouse with MnK. Anyway I tend to unconsciously perform more high profile actions while playing with MnK, especially for sprinting.
Interesting. I personally feel no difference but this here highlights the importance of being Aware of yourself and your own experiences. Knowing what's easier and harder for you will give you greater control.
I don’t know how to react to this video, since I don’t even own any of the AC games except for Unity and I’m pretty new to this community, but damn did I learn more from this video than all my years in school.
I'd love for both of you to give them a try. They're certainly very different, and you might have to adjust and be patient, but just remember that there's a *reason* Assassin's Creed became this legendary, 5-billion-dollar franchise. And Hint Hint, that reason is not because the early games were bad. :P
Great warning, this has literally happened to everyone, I reckon. :P That's exactly why Empty Hand is almost strictly an Airborne Action in my action-flow. Amazing way to get down, though, if you don't care for the stress level of some poor monk on street level. RIP the bones of every Civilian I've descended upon.
I am glad I found the guide. Like many players from playing new to old(My first one was Origins and now I am playing the AC2) I have been struggling with the movement system. I keep falling, Ezio doing something I thought I did not ask him to do, etc. I thought my game or my PC was broken and was not sure I could keep playing. After the watching the guide I am doing much better and finally enjoying the game.
That's awesome! Players like you were a big part of the reason I wanted to make this, people who wanted to enjoy the older games more but found them less approachable. You're doing great, keep it up.
I was ripping my hair out trying to figure out what "High profile" was and was struggling with controls because I played Origins first and I kept thinking it was aerial view. When you said high profile in regards to LOW PROFILE, it hit me that I'm in a default of stealth and things made a lot more sense
I’m a relatively new Assassin’s Creed fan. I’ve been playing all the games over the past year. Your guides have made these games so much more enjoyable and the depth of their mechanics tons more accessible. I wish the games themselves took the time to tutorialize these concepts better. Maybe then less people would’ve been frustrated, and we could’ve kept the system with actual player input instead of the dummy-proof joke we have now.
Thank you so much for your kind words. That's always been my hope, as someone who loves these games, what I really wanted was to just help other people enjoy them as much as I do. People give me props for a lot of things, but this one is definitely the one that stays most meaningful to me.
Gotta say, watching your parkour skills is so relaxing. I'd absolutely love a video with you telling some kind of story, maybe even Altair's story after the game, since there should be a book about that, while having a parkour montage from any of the games in the background.
Lovely to see. ^__^ I kept a lot of the "cool" clips or moments from this video's background footage that appealed to me personally or had sick movement, from multiple Assassin's Creed games. Maybe I just do a franchise-wide movement highlight reel. AC1-Odyssey. (Not that Odyssey has got advanced movement, but there are still unique elements to traversal in that game that I can slip in.)
@@LeoKRogue sounds great! just hope there's gonna be some commentary of any kind, since I tend to drift off into the void mentally, when I'm just looking at something without hearing anyone speak. I'm also glad to see you slipped in revelations, as fans consider it the worst game of Ezio's trilogy.
I'll find something to talk about. :P Any other ideas, other than story? Hell, I might actually talk about my personal interpretations of Desmond, Ezio, and Altair's characters.
@@LeoKRogue Sure, why not? other things that could make interesting topics could also be your point of view on the Isu, with Eve's rebellion and all, and the modern day story being almost redundant after Desmond's death and things like that. Hell, you don't even need to talk about AC related things. Just spill out something you wanna talk about, put some nice ass parkour in the background and you got me hooked!
Finally bought myself a PC after playing all the original AC games on PS3 a long time ago. I bought all the Desmond games on a steam sale and your guides are the best for the AC games, forgot how slow Altair used to climb, ejects make it so much faster
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to learn :D I hope you keep enjoying Assassin's Creed. Also, congratulations on your new computer! You're going to be able to play a lot of cool games now ^__^
I really like and appreciate classic acs for their approach. u always have to think, analyze ur actions and learn from mistakes. ppl who blame the game itself and complain about the "clunky" and "slow" movement just don't realize these games give all mechanics and opportunities to move quickly and precisely. sadly, that now the parkour is so easy that it doesnt even require any learning, just hold 2 buttons and thats it
We're definitely outliers/in the minority. Recent titles shifted to become more comfortable for the largest number of people, and are doing great as a result. I've heard Ubisoft loud and clear; modern AC isn't made for us, so I'm fine with leaving and playing something else. I didn't abandon AC, AC abandoned me.
@@LeoKRogue I think that's false though the thing about the newer games being successful. Sure they make a lot more sales than the older games did but the gaming community has grown so much since then. If ac 2 released today then it would easily be game of the year I think.
In the games you mentioned, if I wanted to get down quickly without having to lose damage or not waste time dropping down, I'd highlight an NPC on the geound and jump tackle them, to reach the ground quickly, but at the cost of a low profile approach. Thoughts on this?
"If it works, it works." You can also Hang off a ledge, tap Empty Hand to drop straight down, then Catch Ledge close to the bottom and drop off again. Same result, subtler method. I like that these games gave you options and a variety of tactics to use with pros and cons. Most importantly, training feels good because it opens new possibilities that you couldn't do before.
@@CrazehBoi I did this tactic when Ezio had to play capture the flag at the carnival. I’d let the dude cap the flag and when he ran back to the parkour starter I just tackled him.
Great video, honestly. I played a /lot/ of AC1 at my bestfriend's house when I was young (since I didn't have a console of my own), and I actually know a a good chunk of what you've shown in the video, like button discipline and whatnot. What I liked the best though was the ejects. Watching your movement compared to mine is very different and very enlightening. I was quite comfortable with the system already, but seeing you pull off these stuff and making climbing a building a lot faster gives me something to work with! Now I'd be able to catch those pesky thieves and Borgia messengers a lot faster now.
Thank you so much, Desideria. I really appreciate seeing players of the older games resonate with what I've shown and talked about here, and it breaks my heart when I see the opposite; movement in these games definitely isn't 'random' and uncontrollable. So, thank _you!_ ^__^ I'm grateful for the praise as well, if I could help you enjoy these games even a _little_ bit more, that makes me quite happy.
This video is incredible! I was thoroughly convinced back in the day that I was the only person that actually understood the mechanics and was good at classic AC parkour and disliked Unity's parkour. I was wrong, and thanks to people like you and LazerzZ more people will have the motivation to experiment with this parkour system and see the greatness of it. And it's already starting to happen recently. So thank you Leo K, thank you for making more people understand.
@@cromestone1684 The sluggish animations, the input delay, inconsistencies and not as much control as the previous games. The only thing about Unity's parkour that I personally like are the animations, parkour down and the amazing world design. Besides that, Unity's parkour system overall isn't very good.
I remembered your video after recently purchasing the Ezio Trilogy. I appreciate this content so much. It has made coming back so much more fun than I ever thought possible. Thank you
Hey, that's awesome to hear! I'm so glad you're having a good time, everyone deserves to enjoy these games as much as possible. That's the entire reason I make videos and guides like this. :D
Assassin’s Creed started much more in the vein of cinematic platformers like Another World, Flashback or Prince of Persia (which makes a ton more sense when you find out that AC started development as a PoP spinoff). I love those types of games so I had a great time playing the classic AC games and felt right at home with these concepts. I feel like many people would call those games stiff or sticky or imprecise, too, when of course they’re the exact opposite-too modular and precise for most players. A cinematic platformer really asks you to use the whole moveset (even the slow stuff), not just run full tilt at all times. It’s so satisfying to get good enough at the controls that you achieve that beautiful, smooth flow. AC is a really beautiful and (all things considered) intuitive translation of cinematic platformers from 2d to 3d. I do like the addition of Run Down to the moveset in later games but I agree that there’s so much more precise control in the older AC games and I miss that. I wish some indie dev would take a real shot at a game with parkour controls like this, even if they couldn’t quite achieve the same visual fidelity. I’d take a PS1 graphics version of AC’s parkour gameplay.
Yeah, I think Sands of Time, and then later AC1-Rev really represent that middle ground between, the super animation-heavy (some may say unresponsive but visually sublime) vibes of those classics, and more "modern," snappy action game movement. It creates a feeling that is so unique. Would love to see more exploration of these kinds of mechanics and as you say, it could be anyone doing it.
@@LeoKRogue Now that you’ve mentioned“modern action games,” it made me think about how much it changed the scene when a different game came out that focused on slower, more animation-heavy, but precise action and controls: Dark Souls. It also forces you to have button discipline and precise input to keep yourself in the fight without giving enemies too much of an opening. I wonder if it could be argued that what DS1 was to action game combat, AC1 already was to action game platforming. Plus you see a similar pattern of imitators afterwards-parkour/climbing elements or at least vaguely similar movement systems started to show up in tons of action games after AC1 (Sleeping Dogs, Uncharted, and even later stuff like Breath of the Wild), much like stamina bars, dodge rolls, death retrieval mechanics, and renewable health-recovery items (Estus flasks) have shown up even in games that might not be considered souls-likes. Weird; I don’t think I’d ever drawn that connection before
That makes sense to me, I also hadn't thought about it until you brought it up just now. Souls and Soulslikes are another ardent passion of mine, just one I don't usually mention on this channel, so it's cool to be able to make that comparison.
With Warframe being my most played game, where you're rewarded for being excessively greedy and spammy with your buttons, the movement system in Assassin's Creed is been one of the hardest things for me to master. I really needed a guide like this, thank you!
Thank you! ^_^ It's basically just about calming down and realizing every button press has a consequence. If you slow down a bit and just take it easy, everything becomes much more easy to understand.
AC2 music makes me emotional. I was so wrapped up in the AC world as a teen. Loved diving into a place that felt calm and mystical and where I could go anywhere and fight. Still feels like home.
I just got the ezio trilogy. The parkour felt weird at first but then i knew i was just bad at it. Started doing a lot of back and side ejects and daamn its smooth when u start to learn it
i played ac2 for the first time before watching this video, by my second playthrough i watched this and the stealth guide...I would not have enjoyed the game as much as i did if not for you dude. Keep going! You're the best
Thank you so much, that feels _really_ good to hear. I know these older games don't have the best in-game guidance for players, so I often used to see (and still see) many who don't manage to enjoy them, which is not those players' fault. Since I love these games so much and want others to feel the same, it matters a lot to me to be able to help like this.
Leo this is a fantastic video and I know it's a couple years old now but I thoroughly enjoyed it. I really got into the Assassin's Creed franchise when I started training parkour at university (back in 2011). I totally get what you're saying about having an eye for the movement and training a lot of the same movements in real life (though not nearly as well as the characters lol) allowed me to fully immerse into the parkour experience of AC1 and the Ezio trilogy. I'm currently replaying the Ezio trilogy with my girlfriend (her first time with the series) and I've been trying to explain a lot of the same thoughts to her about the movement that you cover in this video. I really hope that future AC instalments can somehow bring back the parkour style of the original games.
Thank you so much. ^__^ This is a wonderful comment that made me very happy. I sincerely hope that anywhere close to the original depth and complexity of movement would come back, for sure. I miss having this much control of our characters.
i love you man, I just recently started black flag on switch, I never got to play much ac growing up, just some of 1 and brotherhood on very laggy devices so black flag is the first one that i really got to play smoothly. I love how you related to movement to racing and being disciplined.
Playing through ac2 when i was a lot younger and was bad at it(never realised back then) made me quite salty with the game, but enjoyed its narrative aspects. Recently after playing through the kenway saga for the second time, i noticed that connor did do the climb leap but was automated, along with many other fancy moves, also automated (removes sense of accomplishment). Now playing the series from the first game, i started paying attention to my inputs and discovered the flaws in my control, and discovered that parkour accidents were due to holding down sprint.. This video sums up what i realised recently, great video
@@LeoKRogue yup, love this channel, your voice is quite serene and you articulate stuff very precisely.. great skill.. try expanding your channel.. it has good potential
Thank you, I really appreciate that. Regarding expanding, I'm not really sure how I would go about it. As it stands, any time I try to do anything _other_ than Assassin's Creed, _all_ of my statistics just _plummet,_ it's kind of insane. I'm essentially forced to just cover this franchise if I want to keep doing well, numerically, which really does suck because there are other games I love too (Resident Evil) but they'll never be as well-received as my AC stuff. :P
Thanks for this video, Leo. I think I was able to enjoy the classic games much more thanks to this. I'm currently in Revelations, and planning to fully synchronize all the games, including AC1. Assassin tombs and Romulus lairs were my favorite things in these games, and the freeruning system is much more complex and fun than 3-ROGUE.
Hey, Leo! A bit late here, but I just wanted to thank you for all the great content you make. I've just recently picked up AC again (recently got platinum on AC Unity), and a big part of me being able to mentally do it and enjoy it was because of this whole community, including your channel. I don't know if you've answered this in the past, but, have you ever thought about looking to make a game implementing your gameplay ideas (specially traversing, parkour, etc)? Idk what you do for a living, but I seriously believe you could find a great deal of people that want a game with an older AC style traversal system, even if it doesn't have a studio or budget as big as Ubisoft (maybe asking for donations could work, as this type of game wouldn't depend on setting up high expectations based on almost impossible promises, but grounded mechanics). Anyways, you inspire me, man! And if before I came back to Unity I wanted to get into the gaming industry, now I feel even more compelled to do so!
Hey El Vago! It's really nice to hear all that. ^__^ It would definitely be fun to contribute to a game that has such mechanics, some day. Right now I'm a little too busy with other things I'm doing, including running this channel (which I struggle to do anyway haha) so it wouldn't be any time soon, but it's encouraging to hear you think I could do something cool with that. I'm glad I've been able to help out with you enjoying Assassin's Creed a bit more, that's the kind of thing that always makes me happy and that I always hope for. I wish you the best of luck, keep kickin' :D
This is an absolutely amazing tutorial series, thank you! 🙇♀️ I do hope you are an instructor of some sort IRL as your presentation is as top notch as the content.
Thanks so much! I do occasionally teach and tutor in real life, yeah, but most of my time teaching is spent around showing people how to have more fun in various games. I've always been helped by good guides, and frustrated by bad ones, so I was inspired from a way younger age to teach people how to feel less frustrated when they're doing something that's supposed to be fun and satisfying.
Been slowly trying to actually play through AC games (I owned a couple but never played them thoroughly), and it's definitely a learning curve, but vids like this help. I love parkour in games, Mirror's Edge being one of my personal favourites, and hopefully I can start playing more like this rather than doing unnecessary jumps because I'm too used to just holding one button for sprint.
Wicked, I really hope it helps. If you haven't yet, I highly recommend you play Dying Light 2 sometime. Mispap's parkour showcases of that game should do a good job expressing why. It's not actually a scary game for the most part, it's more about making you feel cool and powerful. It's some of my favorite parkour in any game that feels genuinely freeform and deep.
I know this is a slightly old video but thank you so much i started playing ac from my teen years. My first game was ac3 and whilst I wanted to play the earlier titles I never got around it until recently. So when I played it the parkour caught me of guard and i found it super fusturating but thank god i found this video cuz now i can appreciate the game a lot more and the parkour has a cool risk for reward system which is simply not found in recent titles. youve earned my sub.
Yes. You're back ejecting because you're pressing your Legs button by accident or without realizing. Stop doing that whenever you're on a wall, keep your finger away from it as you climb. Just climb with High Profile and your stick. You'll never accidentally eject again. Remember, if you're using a button, make sure you're pressing it for a reason. If you're accidentally ejecting while attempting Climb Leaps it's because you're leaving your stick or WASD at Neutral while you press the buttons.
Nice, finally something comprehensive to show to newbies. Those climb leap tips were great. I was sure that it would have always been slower than simply climbing up (provided there's no gap it's needed for). I take pride in knowing all the rest with very minimal outside influence.
There is an other mechanic that I found in ac 2 that allows you to get down quickly , ( haven't tried it in ac 1 becuase I just finished and uninstalled it but it works in the ezio trilogy as well as the kenway saga and rogue ) all you have to do is be in range for Air assassination on top of an npc in High Profile and press shift ( or whatever key you use to drop down and catch ledge ) , when you do that your character will drop on top of the npc without killing him.This method however will make guards notice and take action against you.
Yeah, that's Tackling! It can be helpful in situations where there are no Guards nearby since the Assassin will often prioritize tackling them over civilians, and then you can be in trouble or get detected. A few years after this video, a tech called Punch-Dropping was discovered for AC1-Rev: ruclips.net/video/X40JpTnweOk/видео.html As for the three Kenway games, you can drop from any height by holding High Profile + Drop before reaching an edge. :D
I’ve played so much Unity, and the RPG’s just don’t give me that same feeling of a classic AC game. I think it’s time for me to revisit the Desmond Saga.
What made the parkour great in the older games was the agency it gave the player. Also, Venice in AC2 is the best: every area is unique and requires different parkour skills for transversal. This is controversial, but AC brotherhood marks the point of AC games going downhill, and their fall started with the combat. The parkour from AC 3 to valhalla resembles the chain kills in AC brotherhood: its easier. Both parkour and fighting has been dumbed down to satisfy less disciplined players. While fighting has improved in the new RPG styled AC games, i miss the challenge of seemlessly fighting in AC1 and AC2.
Cheers! It devastates me the direction parkour has gone in, in Assassin's Creed. It used to be *the* signature system behind these games. When players thought "Assassin's Creed," they thought "parkour." That said, I'd like to stress that Brotherhood combat was actually the closest to oldskool Parkour that fighting ever actually _got,_ because it operated on the same principles; you _could_ play it reasonably automatically and go 'easy-mode,' not expressing yourself via the mechanics available, but there was enough variety and expression there for advanced players to put their own spin on it and play even faster, even flashier. What I deeply disliked about it was that we had all this power without any consideration or cost behind it. Brotherhood/Revelations Ezio has an _unfathomably_ large health pool but he can still dispatch an enemy in one hit as long as you keep your flow up. It just doesn't feel right, we should be very fragile if we have such immense lethality, and that would've been perfect for me, as a fight-system. Not even necessarily 'fighting,' just outright Killing at any given time, whether in stealth or combat, is very emblematic of a capital-A Assassin and it's kind of a shame that they went with the system they did nowadays. For an example of a recent game that actually pulls off what I want reasonably well, that'd be Ghost of Tsushima on Lethal difficulty. Enemies die incredibly quickly, in one or two hits, tops, but the player can barely take a scratch without being put down themselves. It's brilliant because it makes you feel deadly without permitting complacency. You actually have to be alert and engaged.
The empty hand falling aspect makes so much sense! I got all the AC games in a Steam bundle, and started with the first game. I was in the Kingdom area and would get shot off a view point tower and always fell. Certainly using Empty Hand in future! ^_^'
I want to thank you SO MUCH for this, I am beginner at gaming, using a console, basically everything(!) and I was was getting a bit overwhelmed by all the controls but you explain in a simple way how they work and how to use them :) Just started AC2, and I already like it a lot
I'm so glad Mary, I know that these older games in particular can be very overwhelming, since they use a very weird control scheme. I hope that I didn't over-complicate things myself hehe 😅
@LeoKRogue when I joined the community, I was aware that I missed a lot of stuff that the games didn't explain well, and iv been trying to get around to learning everything I can. And I think parkour is probably the last thing I want to learn. I liked unitys style and animations, but im not a fan of up and down parkour haha
This was really helpful when I played as a kid I always just ran everywhere but now that I picked up the collection I wanted to learn the actual movement system.
Hi, Not sure if you'll read this, but I just discovered the Assassin's Creed franchise. In 2020. I started playing the first one and fell in love immediately. I'm on memory block 5 at the moment. I always thought that Altair's stuttering movement, and the issue of not being able to grab certain ledges was just a limitation of the time. I'm gonna try some of these moves next chance I get. I'm not sure where I was going with this but I just wanted to gush about how much I love AC1.
Thank you so much Mintdragon. ^__^ Assassin's Creed 1 is my favorite game ever made. I'm really happy you started with it, because that's really important. It will give you all the skills you need, to properly enjoy ALL of the subsequent ones. I've known a lot of people who DIDN'T start with AC1 first, and ended up having a worse experience because of it later.
@@LeoKRogue I can definitely see why it's your favourite. It's quickly becoming mine as well. The sound design, the atmosphere, the way the game drip feeds you bits of the plot, how both Altair and Desmond aren't ever really safe. There were two major moments where I went "oh my god I love this game"; when Altair walked next to a person and turned his body to face them, and at the beginning of the game, when the game looks like it's glitching but it's actually a secret plot that I had no idea about. Sorry for the ramble, I'm just so in love with this game, and I hope the other ones are good, too. Usually when I start playing a series, I tend to start from the first game. I played Jak 2 when I was a kid without playing the first one and I had such a bad time that I put it away until I got the first one.
I had trouble with button discipline in Brotherhood back in 2014. I also knew none of the “advanced techniques”, I completed two or three tombs after much woe. I decided to start playing AC 2 recently and, now that I know what is possible, I am having loads of fun just moving around the world. Thanks for the extremely informative (and entertaining) videos!
I'm so glad, and so proud of you, Slowbuilder! It feels _awesome_ to learn new tricks and just feel your own power-level _explode_ upwards in a game, huh? That's the entire reason I make stuff like this, because I love the feeling so much for myself and I want to give it to other people. So many games become more fun when there's an easier way to understand more of the stuff we can do in them. You're very welcome, and thank you for the nice comment. :D
Leo K [Rogue] It is an amazing feeling! I was introduced to your channel from several of your Unity videos, which greatly increased my enjoyment of it. The way you make Unity look keeps inspiring me to pick it up again lol. The classic ones are less flashy, but it is really satisfying having pretty much complete control and knowing that it was *you* that did something cool, and a little less frustrating when you realize it was you that messed something up. There’s always some jank but that’s the nature of the beast. Again, thanks for doing what you do, you’ve succeeded in taking my Assassins Creed experience to a whole new level. :)
I was really frustrated with the parkour system too! My biggest problems are direction control button discipline. Like sometimes I must control the direction very precisely, but other times I just have to hold X + R2 + left stick forward and the assassin will adjust the direction automatically. This has caused me troubles a lot. I’m excited to try this cause too many times I lose health due to parkour rather than fighting. In fact I think that the combat system in Ezio collection (I have not played the last one yet) is way too easy. This is especially true with the introduction of one-button streak kill in brotherhood. Fighting got so boring that there was a time when I just took on like 7 soldiers with my fist without disarming them.
Been playing the series back to front over the last month and am so happy you've made this guide for the ezio games I've forgotten alot of the nuance of the early parkour system.
@@LeoKRogue what's your opinion on ac 3? And are there any other differences in the parkour system u might not have mentioned at the end? I know u already talked about it in the video so I dont wanna sound stupid but I'm kinda a slow learner so maybe just give me a simpler explanation.
Thank you! This is very helpful for a returning AC2 player (Switch version that just came out). Also, your captured footage has a high picture quality! Good work!
something i love in ac1 is that Altair can foot-plant off a handhold on the side of a wall momentarily if you tap the legs button again and he will keep going forward, if you dont tap legs again thought he steps on the hand hold on the wall and then falls down since he can actually fully stand on it. its kinda a sudo wall run from prince of Persia and i believe thats only really in ac1 so that shows some of its prince of Persia root/blood which is really cool. the more I've been playing AC1 the more I think it has the best parkour system of all the games and how it just is never properly presented to the player. AC1 is a hidden gem far ahead of its time that I feel had a system that never got the evolution it really deserved.
Thank you so much!! I've been playing all the latest AC games since Black Flag and only recently started the Ezio collection. I was so frustrated with the controls to the point where i felt like breaking my controller. I guess it was my own fault! since this video I can manage it now a lot better!
Thank you! This kind of feel-good story is exactly why I make the stuff I make, I just want people to be able to have all the fun they could be having with these games. I know the old ones have kind of wacky controls, so I'm glad I was able to help. I hope you keep having fun, and I hope you love the narrative! :D
I'm glad for that! Situations like yours are the reason I make stuff like this. It feels great to have proper control and insight over what we're playing.
Not gonna lie, but this looks amazing in my opinion 14:50. Wallrunning and then jumping upwards looks amazing and it's a very good technique, I even thought to myself that it's kinda realistic but hard to execute at the same in real life. Tell me if I'm wrong, I just think it's kinda realistic XD
It can be fairly realistic, yeah. It would look slightly different when done in real life because of how our back-muscles and our arms work, but it'd be similar enough to feel familiar. You can watch some similar stuff if you search for "Parkour, Literally" on RUclips. The first video should be good enough. ruclips.net/video/SMppD-bUNWo/видео.html
I recently played through the original four AC games after being a fan since Unity. I used to think that Unity was the pinnacle for Assassin's Creed parkour. Don't get me wrong, I still love it, but man the original system just had the sauce. It's crazy that it's been over a decade since this franchise has had a movement system even half as good as the first game.
The parkour on origins and beyond is like driving on automatic gear, it's much easier and smoother but you have less control. The older ac is the opposite, harder but you have much more control and is more satisfying. Thanks for the vid!
Man this just makes me wish that catch ledge/side ejects were a thing in Unity. I still think it's cool,but the older games felt a lot more precise. :P
Indeed. Unity does have Side-Hops, which are still super useful when identified and practiced, but I definitely miss having more control of my movements. At this point, adding _any_ kind of extra depth and variance to movement would be really cool, whatever it ends up taking the form of.
Thank you for watching, and thank you for learning! And yes, I agree, an AC1 Remake (but one made with respect for the source) would be amazing. My happy dream is Bluepoint doing it. But alas, doubtful.
I'm no expert or a professional. But I'm content with myself at how much button discipline I've known all this time, on my own, without even knowing I was performing button discipline. It feels like simple intuition on my part.
Yeah! Some players have the intuitive awareness to do that since it's a logical exercise of, my guy does stuff I don't want him to do, how do I get him to stop doing that? I only use buttons when they're needed. And so on.
Great tutorial! I want to add that when you want to climb down quickly, look for standable beams jutting out from walls you will be able to drop down without fall damage. There is a limit though, if it is too high it will break your fall but you will slip off of it so make sure you’re close to a wall or under water
Love the Altair/Ezio controls! Glad I followed the link, it was a fun watch. :) Another thing I picked up on after replays that's a really gratifying detail is that whether or not you're pressing the analog stick in the direction of your jump arc is the difference between Ezio landing hard with a groan and him rolling safely to his feet to keep running. I don't remember off the top of my head whether he takes more damage if he doesn't roll (I vaguely recall that he does, and suspect this was my initial motivation to start consciously doing rolls), but it certainly looks way more competent in either case. And it boosts immersion! You'd want to avoid rigid landings as much as possible if you had real-life joint health to consider, and upon discovering this mechanic, you slowly start caring about Ezio's joints too. Simple, but effective mechanic for feeling part of the game. And just like the rest of the controls, the response is instant! It doesn't matter if I realize I'm about to crash without being able to grab anything only at the very last moment. If I hurriedly jam the stick forward with only a split second to spare, he'll still roll! Teeny tiny detail but very welcome in how much it contributes to the feeling of conscious and custom control over the character's actions. :)
I started replaying and almost beat ac2 before watching this and the directional open hand while falling technique is pretty cool and I’m surprised I never learned that yet.
Thank you for this. I was really frustrated and had given up on the Visitazion Secret Tomb in AC2. I thought the controls were just stupid for the game. After watching this I understood I likely hadn't been using them all correctly, so went back and after a few more tries I managed to pass it! I do have a problem though where I need to hold HP because walking is frustratingly slow, and when I use walking and legs it changes to fast walk, but then i accidentally steal from everyone and end up in trouble 🙈
I'm glad to help! You can alternate between jogging (basically just high profile) and then dropping back down into a walk when you get near other people in the streets. Much like slowing down to play "clean" around edges on rooftops, you can definitely "greed" for movement-speed on both roofs and streets as long as you practice easing off when you get close to something sensitive -- like a person / wall / edge.
Yeah, you can do it in most of the original four. Corners help a lot. Hilariously, you can even do it in the Sands of Time trilogy of Prince of Persia games. Same thing, jump away from a thin ledge while on a corner.
I'm here from LazerzZ video! This is really cool idk if you ever played any of the multiplayer in the AC games but id imagine you would have been a great runner/attacker in Artifact Assault. In AC4MP especially a lot of us that still play, use tricks like this in combination with just map knowledge and knowing which jumps we can and can't reach. Great video!
I used to love AC PvP, yeah, ever since Brotherhood. I mostly played Wanted and Deathmatch because those were what I first got used to, but I definitely dabbled in all the modes. Whenever I did play Artifact Assault, I _did_ very often attempt to be stealing the objective, yes! I love how I'm just that obvious haha
@@LeoKRogue Awesome man! Yeah I play a lot of deathmatch as well, I even streamed it a couple days ago actually. It's still pretty active on AC4 PS4 at least, and the lockdown seems to have got a lot of people playing it again. Anyway fingers crossed the parkour mechanics in the new games are decent, and the environment actually allows for it.
Most people really struggle with movement in the classic games, even though this is the best parkour has ever been, in terms of possible actions and depth. (It's not the 'prettiest' but it is the best/strongest overall.) Therefore, it's really important that people have the resources they need to play it well.
@@LeoKRogue it was a while ago since I played unity but I honestly remember the parkour as better than AC2 which I'm playing now. I felt like there was more choices on how you would get up and get down a wall etc. In AC2 there is only wall eject to do a "stylish" jump but I remember u teaching me through another video a technique to get down from walls where you did a stunt at the end and other stuff aswell. Maybe I just remember the parkour as very good since it was the first AC game I played that had parkour (I had only played Odyssey and Origins before that 😂). But like I said I'm remembering there being a lot more freedom and options for parkor in Unity than in AC2. (Sorry for bad grammar, it is not my first language)
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The old AC movement was a bit underrated and even unknown.
I wish they went back to making the parkour have some skill involved.
Nothing would make me happier.
Swifty UNKNOWN I get it
Damn! What kinda crossover is this?
I want the unity parlour style back
They need to remaster ac1, it was awesome
Amen to that, it's my favorite game ever made. I'd be so, so happy.
If Ubi makes a remastered, it should contain more movement just as AC2, such as climbing faster on buildings and more!
@@LeoKRogue Would you agree that the Unity parkour system will work well in a AC1 remake is done?
I'm not sure. I think, starting with Unity, they really took away a lot of our control and made things much more contextual and simple. So, if they did that again for an AC1 Remake, it would really disappoint me. If they kept the number of unique actions that could be done from AC1-Rev, but paired them with the shiny animations from Unity, though, that'd probably be the best that movement will ever be.
@@LeoKRogue I'm not sure but besides with the lack of Ledge Grab, is there any mechanic/s that has been removed? I mean the introduction of Free run is literally the best thing they ever made, even though it's unfinished/clunky.
This, I feel, was the essence of the Assassin's Creed. Truth be told, I was interested in AC games as long as they promised the Juno-related Infinity War-type-thing happening...No point for me playing the newer games but I digress. The older games were constantly challenging your mind. Not the challenges of survival like some Dark Souls-type games have, but the challenges of mastery and perfection of your skills. The way you move through the city, the way you fight, the way you assassinate... Everything was a puzzle. You could be as effective as you want to be, always aware of your surroundings whether there are annoying peasants on the street, some tricky free-run/climbing structures or vigilant guards... An assassin always finds a way to use these surroundings to his favor.
Later though, when almost every action became automated...It just started to feel like you're just an observer. You just point the direction.
"You could be as effective as you want to be," is really what it comes down to. In the newer games, this philosophy essentially changes to, "You will be as effective as we tell you to be." Assassin's Creed used to be about seizing Freedom from a system of oppression, and this manifested both in the story AND in gameplay. Players were truly Free, but this Freedom was terrifying to achieve if you didn't know what you were doing. You had to really push yourself, and attempt things that could cause you to Desynchronize or take damage. If you had the will and the knowledge, you could do it. Players would teach each other, propagate knowledge, give each other little hints and guides and tutorials, making each other stronger -- making the Brotherhood stronger. I miss that feeling.
@@LeoKRogue The problem is that most gamers want it easy, which is understandable.
I fucking loved animation cancelling. I loved how "free" the old engine was.
Me too T__T
I know this video is 3 years old but I just discovered it as aI'm replaying these old AC's, so thank you, it's really useful!
A couple of missed things I'd add:
- When you're sprinting and release high profile in the ezio saga while you are passing next to npc's so you don't tumble to the ground, you have the risk of robbing them and some guards might see you and get annoyed. Or sometimes you want to do a sudden stop in that group of people to become stealth but release the button too late, you rob one of those people and the group disassembles, ruining your cover
- If you are climbing or on a roof and you time the high profile and empty hand buttons badly you will perform a jump and land on an npc, which can not only take you out of your desired course but also make guards instantly notice you and get aggressive, which is awful if you were trying to escape from someone else lol
Yes indeed. Very good points. :)
Thanks for putting words on what I've been angrily thinking every time someone says that the first AC controls are bad
You're very welcome. I cringe very hard whenever I hear that, but they're not to blame. It makes sense why they would feel that way, and my video's greatest Hope is that it helps out those players who are making mistakes without knowing why, as well as soothe players who've always known how reliable AC1-Rev controls truly are.
@@LeoKRogue Yes, sorry if I sounded a bit arrogant or a know-it-all ! But it pains me that so many people do not get to appreciate the depth of AC parkour mechanics. That's what made the game so enjoyable when I started playing them in 2007
You sounded like nothing of the sort, I relate 100%. Consider what we're left with now. No advanced movement tech of any kind. What defines success or failure is the 50 hours before we engage into a situation (Gear, XP) not our behavior within the actual situation itself (decision-making, skill). It's aggravating and a clear step down.
@@LeoKRogue Odyssey is the first AC game I couldn't get myself to finish... I'm not hating on the game, I'm glad that so many people liked it. But like many others, it feels like it's an entirely different experience. Not the one I fell in love with
A common sentiment among players who've stuck with the franchise from the beginning all the way up until now. Not to mention that Odyssey uses various methods to artificially extend its playtime which are... Quite exhausting. I think that's the most frequently mentioned experience among players who were just looking for a tight, enjoyable game. Exhausting. There's not only a lot to do, you *have* to do a huge amount of it just to be permitted to progress. I can hate Odyssey without hating the players who love it, as long as they extend me the same courtesy. A lot of them haven't, so I've ripped on those people. It's no one in *MY* comments sections, mostly folks on Reddit, but y'know. It's a thing.
Dear God..........
i wish i could travel back in time and show this video to Caddicarus and Jontron before they reviewed AC2
Very odd that most people who said "yeah my character does what I don't want him to do" never really tried, y'know, not pressing every button at the same time. :P
@@LeoKRogue this is a MOOD. People button mashing and blaming the game. Really strikes a nerve.
Up until I bought the Ezio trilogy (couple days ago) I had only played Origins and Odyssey, the parkour in the older games are way more enjoyable and it isn’t as frustrating as I was told
I'm so happy you feel that way, that's awesome! Yeah, there's definitely a lot more you can actually do with movement, and it feels great.
Yeah controls are great must people that complain about them are like a buddy of mine who sucks at button inputs yet always says it’s bad controls I’ll grab his controller show him it’s simply him then he goes on to breaking his controller and has a hassle fit
I'm glad you feel this way but I just restarted ac4 on pc and had to youtube this to find out how to get off from a hanging ledge. Other games have a crouch button.
Unity has the best parkour
@@Sageleader3 No it doesnt, its a clear downgrade from this. It may look cooler but the imputs are much worse.
Man, I had forgotten about all this. I remember playing Assassin's Creed for the first time, slowly learning these techniques through (lots of) trial and error. From starting out sprinting everywhere and jumping off everything, every little thing you learned was a mini lightbulb moment, and it made you feel like a real badass when you felt you mastered a new technique. Simplifying the movement system, like they've done, really sacrifices this feeling of achievement, even if it does make the game more "accessible" in the short term.
Thanks for the nostalgia trip, Leo. Best part about Classic AC movement is, even after all these years, thinking I mastered these games, I watch this video, and I see some stuff that I've never really tried before. I think I'm going to buy these games on PC so I can enjoy them all over again.
That's a pretty solid way of describing the incredible sensation of slowly increasing our Sync with these ancient guardians of free will, yup. It's a hundred tiny moments that add up to a singular realization, and the cycle repeats until you 'click' into the next discovery. What's more, simplifying the movement system doesn't just degrade the feeling of growth, it also just guts any sense of individuality or player-expression. My movement in AC1-Rev looks very different to the movement of certain other players. My movement in AC Odyssey is exactly the same as everyone else's. There's nothing to set each other apart or express our own unique style.
I very much recommend grabbing your favorites on PC and playing them again. Assassin's Creed at 60fps is an incredible feeling.
They should add an option for either mindlessly holding down a button or actually parkour.
Me: climbs up tower
Ezio: ah i have a suïcide appointment scheduled at, right now.
LMAO.
I know this is late but i've been playing AC2 and brotherhood recently and this guide really helps me with the movement. Before this just like you said i basically just kept holding the free run button, now my gameplay feels so smooth. Thx for the guides man
I'm really glad Rino, I love seeing people enjoy these games more. Thank you for taking the time and effort to learn!
@@LeoKRogue wow thanks, amazing guide! I had been thinking AC would be too hard for me from watching tutorial level playthroughs- this makes sense of it all! Can’t wait to see other vids from you
I miss those times when parkour used to be a gameplay element. Now you can climb up pretty much any fucking thing you set your eyes on without even thinking. I like puzzles and the previous parkour systems just gave me that....but the new ones are just mindless gameplay.
Agreed, I don't even think I would characterize new parkour as 'gameplay.' It's just a means to an end.
This video was actually so helpful I just played the entirety of the first 4 games again. Never have i ever enjoyed movement so much in a game
Thank you, that's so nice!
Didn't see this video. This sounds relaxing as a quiet forest. Information on Assassin's Creed classics. Like a hot damn date with candles and everything. Aged like fine wine.
Thank you so much. ^_^
This is definitely one of them that I'm most proud of.
This is one of the most analytical and well thought over pieces of video game content I've ever seen Speaking as someone in the competitive fighting game community it's the highest compliment I can give to tell you that you think about this game As if it's a multiplayer game and you have something to lose if you don't know every little mechanic at your disposal for this you earned my respect.
Edit this comment was made when I was about nine minutes into the video and immediately after resuming the video you immediately compared execution in ac to fighting games I love you and have now subscribed
Thanks Payton! This is a pleasant surprise, because I'm actually shocked someone feels this way.
The reason is the following: if you look at my Rogue Academy - AC Unity Advanced Guide, I get _so many_ comments being like "PFFT how can someone be bad at a single-player game?" "Why would you need a mechanics-guide for this game when there's no multiplayer?" As if people don't grasp there's innate pleasure to getting _better_ at something you already enjoy, and perhaps lots of players might wish to do so. You can imagine this is kind of irritating to see, especially for people like you and me.
But yeah, this is the way I've been accustomed to looking at games, and I kind of bring it to everything.
There's always a reason to try to learn more and figure out all the 'tech' we have access to, in anything. It's just a nice, enjoyable mindset that can raise the fun to be had in pretty much anything we apply it to.
playing the ac game for the first time !! (just bought ezio collection and watched a recap of the first one) tysm for this !!
You're welcome! :D
Why did you skip the first?
For someone who is playing older ac games now, this video is god-send. I hope videos like this existed for every game just to help novice gamers know what they are getting on before they mess something big. Thank you and keep up the effort.
Thanks so much for your kindness, Samendra. Your comment helps me be motivated to make guides like this for other games too.
all they had to do was make the animations flashier & implement parkour down i swear 🤦🏾♂️
Pretty much, yeah. Classic AC still has the most usable and functional movement system with the highest amount of possible actions.
I'm replaying all the ac games in preparation for valhalla, and your guides are super valuable to even a veteran like me who was never fully conscious of all this. thank you for these videos
Thanks so much Dr. Fop, I hope you keep enjoying the series. Assassin's Creed is amazing. As an oldskool player who began with AC1, I'm looking forward to Social Stealth and one-hit stealth kills returning. I missed all that stuff. :D
@@LeoKRogue As someone who started in revelations I found myself constantly switching stealth/combat mechanics and never really got attached to any of them. Since then I went to 100% every game. Although I like the newer games more than most people, as I really appreciate Isu lore, the tie-in to Greek mythology, as well as the combat system. However I do miss social stealth and the more fleshed out present day missions. Imo, if they combine modern combat with unity stealth and ezio trilogy platforming, it would be perfect
Just started playing OG AC lately and my god, Catch Ledge was so godly. I hope Valhalla has a mix of Catch Ledge and Parkour Down. And I thought the "Side Ejects" in Unity were fun, going back to old AC, feeling the freedom of True Side Ejects in that has made navigation so much more fun, especially since I'm playing without the minimap (and HUD altogether).
Thanks for all your videos, Leo, they played a big part in me getting back into this series last year around Christmas time. Before then, I avoided Assassin's Creed like the plague because of feeling underwhelmed from, and betrayed by, the modern day ending to ACIII. I even went so far as to buy into every negative thing said about every game after Unity just to reaffirm how right my choice is to be done with the AC franchise.
But as of this comment, for the past 7 months, I have had a damn good time with Unity, Odyssey, AC1, and KIND OF a good time with Syndicate. It bores me now, but I will always respect it for being the first game I played after an 8 year abstinence from the series. Now I'm revisiting AC2 and love how much grander the modern story gets at this point in the series, along with how engrossing Ezio's character is right off the bat.
Just wanted to express that this morning because I woke up excited to jump right back into AC2 after a late night playing the crap out of it. I just beat AC1 yesterday and it felt like such a chore to look and play past the jank, all for the sake of enjoying the story. Moving on to AC2 and experiencing (on what my imho is) the best AC game reminded me of how much AC captured my imagination and philosophical intrigue a decade ago.
So thanks so much for what you do.
Catch Ledge and at-will Ejects just make such a world of difference and contribute majorly to the feeling that you can move anywhere, at any time. You're very welcome for the videos, people like you and stories like yours are a huge factor and inspiration behind why I do what I do. We all just love these games, and we just want to love them the most we can. I really enjoy helping out with that. :D
Good lord, your content is ridiculously professional. You should make a tutorial/guide on how to make tutorials/guides. :)
Hahaha, that's a very interesting idea. I might enjoy doing that. Quite meta. :P Thank you!
There was this one time that I had just assassinated my target. And then I tried going low profile from the assassination area to the bureau. It was practically mind blowing that I would just walk past the guards in the escape phase.
Yyyesss. What a sublime feeling!
I've played classic ACs with both MnK and controller. One thing I noticed is that having button discipline on the high profile button is much more intuitive with a controller than with MnK. When I play with a controller, it's kind of hard to hold both high profile button and action button while controlling the camera with the right stick, it actually makes sense intuitively to release the high profile button for most of the time; whereas it's relatively easy to hold multiple keys/buttons and control the camera with a mouse with MnK. Anyway I tend to unconsciously perform more high profile actions while playing with MnK, especially for sprinting.
Interesting. I personally feel no difference but this here highlights the importance of being Aware of yourself and your own experiences. Knowing what's easier and harder for you will give you greater control.
Excellent, I really need this :'D
Awesome! Hope it helps.
Nrag fart
No way, dass ich dir hier antreffe xD
I don’t know how to react to this video, since I don’t even own any of the AC games except for Unity and I’m pretty new to this community, but damn did I learn more from this video than all my years in school.
Me too. I only have unity but the old AC games look gorgeous and their parkour system looks very rewarding. I cannot wait to put my hands on them!
I'd love for both of you to give them a try. They're certainly very different, and you might have to adjust and be patient, but just remember that there's a *reason* Assassin's Creed became this legendary, 5-billion-dollar franchise. And Hint Hint, that reason is not because the early games were bad. :P
Be careful when you use empty hand and high profile while in an elevated position. You might tackle someone from 30 meters above by accident 😛
Great warning, this has literally happened to everyone, I reckon. :P That's exactly why Empty Hand is almost strictly an Airborne Action in my action-flow. Amazing way to get down, though, if you don't care for the stress level of some poor monk on street level. RIP the bones of every Civilian I've descended upon.
@@LeoKRogue True ! But it feels wrong somehow, not very creedy 😛
Everything is permitted. (Upon acceptance of its Consequences, at least.)
It’s a great way to get down to the ground
There is one situation in AC3 when you need to do exactly that.
Gonna have to replay AC1-Rev after Valhalla. This was really helpful. On top of your AC1 vaulting vid it’ll be really fun revisiting these.
Glad to hear it! May the knowledge serve you well :D
Yes finally, A Movement Guide
At last v__v
I am glad I found the guide. Like many players from playing new to old(My first one was Origins and now I am playing the AC2) I have been struggling with the movement system. I keep falling, Ezio doing something I thought I did not ask him to do, etc. I thought my game or my PC was broken and was not sure I could keep playing. After the watching the guide I am doing much better and finally enjoying the game.
That's awesome! Players like you were a big part of the reason I wanted to make this, people who wanted to enjoy the older games more but found them less approachable. You're doing great, keep it up.
@@LeoKRogue Many thanks!
I was ripping my hair out trying to figure out what "High profile" was and was struggling with controls because I played Origins first and I kept thinking it was aerial view. When you said high profile in regards to LOW PROFILE, it hit me that I'm in a default of stealth and things made a lot more sense
It definitely takes a different mindset.
I’m a relatively new Assassin’s Creed fan. I’ve been playing all the games over the past year. Your guides have made these games so much more enjoyable and the depth of their mechanics tons more accessible. I wish the games themselves took the time to tutorialize these concepts better. Maybe then less people would’ve been frustrated, and we could’ve kept the system with actual player input instead of the dummy-proof joke we have now.
Thank you so much for your kind words. That's always been my hope, as someone who loves these games, what I really wanted was to just help other people enjoy them as much as I do. People give me props for a lot of things, but this one is definitely the one that stays most meaningful to me.
Gotta say, watching your parkour skills is so relaxing. I'd absolutely love a video with you telling some kind of story, maybe even Altair's story after the game, since there should be a book about that, while having a parkour montage from any of the games in the background.
Lovely to see. ^__^ I kept a lot of the "cool" clips or moments from this video's background footage that appealed to me personally or had sick movement, from multiple Assassin's Creed games. Maybe I just do a franchise-wide movement highlight reel. AC1-Odyssey. (Not that Odyssey has got advanced movement, but there are still unique elements to traversal in that game that I can slip in.)
@@LeoKRogue sounds great! just hope there's gonna be some commentary of any kind, since I tend to drift off into the void mentally, when I'm just looking at something without hearing anyone speak. I'm also glad to see you slipped in revelations, as fans consider it the worst game of Ezio's trilogy.
I'll find something to talk about. :P Any other ideas, other than story? Hell, I might actually talk about my personal interpretations of Desmond, Ezio, and Altair's characters.
@@LeoKRogue Sure, why not? other things that could make interesting topics could also be your point of view on the Isu, with Eve's rebellion and all, and the modern day story being almost redundant after Desmond's death and things like that. Hell, you don't even need to talk about AC related things. Just spill out something you wanna talk about, put some nice ass parkour in the background and you got me hooked!
Bless.
Finally bought myself a PC after playing all the original AC games on PS3 a long time ago. I bought all the Desmond games on a steam sale and your guides are the best for the AC games, forgot how slow Altair used to climb, ejects make it so much faster
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to learn :D
I hope you keep enjoying Assassin's Creed. Also, congratulations on your new computer!
You're going to be able to play a lot of cool games now ^__^
I really like and appreciate classic acs for their approach. u always have to think, analyze ur actions and learn from mistakes. ppl who blame the game itself and complain about the "clunky" and "slow" movement just don't realize these games give all mechanics and opportunities to move quickly and precisely. sadly, that now the parkour is so easy that it doesnt even require any learning, just hold 2 buttons and thats it
We're definitely outliers/in the minority. Recent titles shifted to become more comfortable for the largest number of people, and are doing great as a result. I've heard Ubisoft loud and clear; modern AC isn't made for us, so I'm fine with leaving and playing something else. I didn't abandon AC, AC abandoned me.
@@LeoKRogue I think that's false though the thing about the newer games being successful. Sure they make a lot more sales than the older games did but the gaming community has grown so much since then. If ac 2 released today then it would easily be game of the year I think.
Started up ac1 again watched this to recap Leo k thank you master for teaching us your ways🙏🏽
You're welcome!
In the games you mentioned, if I wanted to get down quickly without having to lose damage or not waste time dropping down, I'd highlight an NPC on the geound and jump tackle them, to reach the ground quickly, but at the cost of a low profile approach. Thoughts on this?
"If it works, it works."
You can also Hang off a ledge, tap Empty Hand to drop straight down, then Catch Ledge close to the bottom and drop off again. Same result, subtler method. I like that these games gave you options and a variety of tactics to use with pros and cons. Most importantly, training feels good because it opens new possibilities that you couldn't do before.
Biggest brain move I've ever seen
@@CrazehBoi I did this tactic when Ezio had to play capture the flag at the carnival. I’d let the dude cap the flag and when he ran back to the parkour starter I just tackled him.
Great video, honestly. I played a /lot/ of AC1 at my bestfriend's house when I was young (since I didn't have a console of my own), and I actually know a a good chunk of what you've shown in the video, like button discipline and whatnot. What I liked the best though was the ejects. Watching your movement compared to mine is very different and very enlightening. I was quite comfortable with the system already, but seeing you pull off these stuff and making climbing a building a lot faster gives me something to work with! Now I'd be able to catch those pesky thieves and Borgia messengers a lot faster now.
Thank you so much, Desideria. I really appreciate seeing players of the older games resonate with what I've shown and talked about here, and it breaks my heart when I see the opposite; movement in these games definitely isn't 'random' and uncontrollable. So, thank _you!_ ^__^
I'm grateful for the praise as well, if I could help you enjoy these games even a _little_ bit more, that makes me quite happy.
Thankfully It's not only me who believe that best parkour is at classic 1st assassins mechanics
Yeah! It gives you a lot of power and control that we don't get anymore.
You're still helping people 4 years later. Thank you!
I'm glad.
This video is incredible! I was thoroughly convinced back in the day that I was the only person that actually understood the mechanics and was good at classic AC parkour and disliked Unity's parkour. I was wrong, and thanks to people like you and LazerzZ more people will have the motivation to experiment with this parkour system and see the greatness of it. And it's already starting to happen recently. So thank you Leo K, thank you for making more people understand.
Glad you enjoyed it, and I'm happy to see a comment like this. ^__^
@@LeoKRogue I appreciate it!
IF you torture yourself playing stealthly through Valhalla... nah but in all seriousness this video is great!
U dislike unity parkour? What is there to not like?
@@cromestone1684 The sluggish animations, the input delay, inconsistencies and not as much control as the previous games. The only thing about Unity's parkour that I personally like are the animations, parkour down and the amazing world design. Besides that, Unity's parkour system overall isn't very good.
I remembered your video after recently purchasing the Ezio Trilogy. I appreciate this content so much. It has made coming back so much more fun than I ever thought possible. Thank you
Hey, that's awesome to hear! I'm so glad you're having a good time, everyone deserves to enjoy these games as much as possible. That's the entire reason I make videos and guides like this. :D
Assassin’s Creed started much more in the vein of cinematic platformers like Another World, Flashback or Prince of Persia (which makes a ton more sense when you find out that AC started development as a PoP spinoff). I love those types of games so I had a great time playing the classic AC games and felt right at home with these concepts. I feel like many people would call those games stiff or sticky or imprecise, too, when of course they’re the exact opposite-too modular and precise for most players. A cinematic platformer really asks you to use the whole moveset (even the slow stuff), not just run full tilt at all times. It’s so satisfying to get good enough at the controls that you achieve that beautiful, smooth flow. AC is a really beautiful and (all things considered) intuitive translation of cinematic platformers from 2d to 3d. I do like the addition of Run Down to the moveset in later games but I agree that there’s so much more precise control in the older AC games and I miss that. I wish some indie dev would take a real shot at a game with parkour controls like this, even if they couldn’t quite achieve the same visual fidelity. I’d take a PS1 graphics version of AC’s parkour gameplay.
Yeah, I think Sands of Time, and then later AC1-Rev really represent that middle ground between, the super animation-heavy (some may say unresponsive but visually sublime) vibes of those classics, and more "modern," snappy action game movement. It creates a feeling that is so unique. Would love to see more exploration of these kinds of mechanics and as you say, it could be anyone doing it.
@@LeoKRogue Now that you’ve mentioned“modern action games,” it made me think about how much it changed the scene when a different game came out that focused on slower, more animation-heavy, but precise action and controls: Dark Souls. It also forces you to have button discipline and precise input to keep yourself in the fight without giving enemies too much of an opening. I wonder if it could be argued that what DS1 was to action game combat, AC1 already was to action game platforming. Plus you see a similar pattern of imitators afterwards-parkour/climbing elements or at least vaguely similar movement systems started to show up in tons of action games after AC1 (Sleeping Dogs, Uncharted, and even later stuff like Breath of the Wild), much like stamina bars, dodge rolls, death retrieval mechanics, and renewable health-recovery items (Estus flasks) have shown up even in games that might not be considered souls-likes. Weird; I don’t think I’d ever drawn that connection before
That makes sense to me, I also hadn't thought about it until you brought it up just now. Souls and Soulslikes are another ardent passion of mine, just one I don't usually mention on this channel, so it's cool to be able to make that comparison.
With Warframe being my most played game, where you're rewarded for being excessively greedy and spammy with your buttons, the movement system in Assassin's Creed is been one of the hardest things for me to master. I really needed a guide like this, thank you!
Thank you! ^_^
It's basically just about calming down and realizing every button press has a consequence. If you slow down a bit and just take it easy, everything becomes much more easy to understand.
AC2 music makes me emotional. I was so wrapped up in the AC world as a teen. Loved diving into a place that felt calm and mystical and where I could go anywhere and fight.
Still feels like home.
I just got the ezio trilogy. The parkour felt weird at first but then i knew i was just bad at it. Started doing a lot of back and side ejects and daamn its smooth when u start to learn it
That makes me so happy! I'm glad :D
i played ac2 for the first time before watching this video, by my second playthrough i watched this and the stealth guide...I would not have enjoyed the game as much as i did if not for you dude. Keep going! You're the best
Thank you so much, that feels _really_ good to hear. I know these older games don't have the best in-game guidance for players, so I often used to see (and still see) many who don't manage to enjoy them, which is not those players' fault. Since I love these games so much and want others to feel the same, it matters a lot to me to be able to help like this.
Leo this is a fantastic video and I know it's a couple years old now but I thoroughly enjoyed it. I really got into the Assassin's Creed franchise when I started training parkour at university (back in 2011). I totally get what you're saying about having an eye for the movement and training a lot of the same movements in real life (though not nearly as well as the characters lol) allowed me to fully immerse into the parkour experience of AC1 and the Ezio trilogy. I'm currently replaying the Ezio trilogy with my girlfriend (her first time with the series) and I've been trying to explain a lot of the same thoughts to her about the movement that you cover in this video. I really hope that future AC instalments can somehow bring back the parkour style of the original games.
Thank you so much. ^__^
This is a wonderful comment that made me very happy.
I sincerely hope that anywhere close to the original depth and complexity of movement would come back, for sure.
I miss having this much control of our characters.
i love you man, I just recently started black flag on switch, I never got to play much ac growing up, just some of 1 and brotherhood on very laggy devices so black flag is the first one that i really got to play smoothly. I love how you related to movement to racing and being disciplined.
I'm so glad, especially if it helped out a bit. ^_^
Playing through ac2 when i was a lot younger and was bad at it(never realised back then) made me quite salty with the game, but enjoyed its narrative aspects.
Recently after playing through the kenway saga for the second time, i noticed that connor did do the climb leap but was automated, along with many other fancy moves, also automated (removes sense of accomplishment).
Now playing the series from the first game, i started paying attention to my inputs and discovered the flaws in my control, and discovered that parkour accidents were due to holding down sprint..
This video sums up what i realised recently, great video
I'm so proud! Thank you so much, as well. That 'click' moment where we discover exactly what was happening is incredibly satisfying, isn't it?
@@LeoKRogue yup, love this channel, your voice is quite serene and you articulate stuff very precisely.. great skill.. try expanding your channel.. it has good potential
Thank you, I really appreciate that. Regarding expanding, I'm not really sure how I would go about it. As it stands, any time I try to do anything _other_ than Assassin's Creed, _all_ of my statistics just _plummet,_ it's kind of insane. I'm essentially forced to just cover this franchise if I want to keep doing well, numerically, which really does suck because there are other games I love too (Resident Evil) but they'll never be as well-received as my AC stuff. :P
@@LeoKRogue try out uploading some cool gameplay footage of older/newer ac games. Some similar channels that i watch:
Maceonick ac
Stealthgamerbr
Thanks for this video, Leo. I think I was able to enjoy the classic games much more thanks to this. I'm currently in Revelations, and planning to fully synchronize all the games, including AC1.
Assassin tombs and Romulus lairs were my favorite things in these games, and the freeruning system is much more complex and fun than 3-ROGUE.
I'm so glad! Just remember not to burn yourself out.
@@LeoKRogue Yeah, I will 😁
Did you get all the flags?
@@llama6394 I haven't 😔 my Xbox died, can't play rn.
I love watching this video for review.
Hey, Leo! A bit late here, but I just wanted to thank you for all the great content you make. I've just recently picked up AC again (recently got platinum on AC Unity), and a big part of me being able to mentally do it and enjoy it was because of this whole community, including your channel.
I don't know if you've answered this in the past, but, have you ever thought about looking to make a game implementing your gameplay ideas (specially traversing, parkour, etc)? Idk what you do for a living, but I seriously believe you could find a great deal of people that want a game with an older AC style traversal system, even if it doesn't have a studio or budget as big as Ubisoft (maybe asking for donations could work, as this type of game wouldn't depend on setting up high expectations based on almost impossible promises, but grounded mechanics). Anyways, you inspire me, man! And if before I came back to Unity I wanted to get into the gaming industry, now I feel even more compelled to do so!
Hey El Vago! It's really nice to hear all that. ^__^
It would definitely be fun to contribute to a game that has such mechanics, some day.
Right now I'm a little too busy with other things I'm doing, including running this channel (which I struggle to do anyway haha) so it wouldn't be any time soon, but it's encouraging to hear you think I could do something cool with that.
I'm glad I've been able to help out with you enjoying Assassin's Creed a bit more, that's the kind of thing that always makes me happy and that I always hope for. I wish you the best of luck, keep kickin' :D
Firing up Brotherhood after years away. Time for the obligatory rewatch of this video 👍
Hope it helps.
This is an absolutely amazing tutorial series, thank you! 🙇♀️ I do hope you are an instructor of some sort IRL as your presentation is as top notch as the content.
Thanks so much! I do occasionally teach and tutor in real life, yeah, but most of my time teaching is spent around showing people how to have more fun in various games. I've always been helped by good guides, and frustrated by bad ones, so I was inspired from a way younger age to teach people how to feel less frustrated when they're doing something that's supposed to be fun and satisfying.
AC 2 was my favorite game of all time. Remember there being certain towers I couldn't climb until I got better at climbing as a player
Been slowly trying to actually play through AC games (I owned a couple but never played them thoroughly), and it's definitely a learning curve, but vids like this help. I love parkour in games, Mirror's Edge being one of my personal favourites, and hopefully I can start playing more like this rather than doing unnecessary jumps because I'm too used to just holding one button for sprint.
Wicked, I really hope it helps. If you haven't yet, I highly recommend you play Dying Light 2 sometime. Mispap's parkour showcases of that game should do a good job expressing why. It's not actually a scary game for the most part, it's more about making you feel cool and powerful. It's some of my favorite parkour in any game that feels genuinely freeform and deep.
@@LeoKRogue Oh yeah, I think I played a bit of the first, but I'll definitely look up Mispap, too. Thanks for the reccomendation.
I know this is a slightly old video but thank you so much i started playing ac from my teen years. My first game was ac3 and whilst I wanted to play the earlier titles I never got around it until recently. So when I played it the parkour caught me of guard and i found it super fusturating but thank god i found this video cuz now i can appreciate the game a lot more and the parkour has a cool risk for reward system which is simply not found in recent titles. youve earned my sub.
Thank you! That's exactly what I was hoping for when I made this video, and I'm glad that's what you got out of it. ^__^
@@LeoKRogue Hey bro I just wanted too ask you whenever i climb a wall i sometimes randomly back eject any tips please
Yes. You're back ejecting because you're pressing your Legs button by accident or without realizing. Stop doing that whenever you're on a wall, keep your finger away from it as you climb. Just climb with High Profile and your stick. You'll never accidentally eject again.
Remember, if you're using a button, make sure you're pressing it for a reason.
If you're accidentally ejecting while attempting Climb Leaps it's because you're leaving your stick or WASD at Neutral while you press the buttons.
@@LeoKRogue thank you so much it works you are my hero
Nice, finally something comprehensive to show to newbies.
Those climb leap tips were great. I was sure that it would have always been slower than simply climbing up (provided there's no gap it's needed for).
I take pride in knowing all the rest with very minimal outside influence.
OMG. It's you! You're the adorable Finnish cutie from Twitter! I die!
@@LeoKRogue Oh thanks. Didn't think you would think that highly of me.
You say smart things and you're shy and you support me. I'd never think lowly of you. v__v
There is an other mechanic that I found in ac 2 that allows you to get down quickly , ( haven't tried it in ac 1 becuase I just finished and uninstalled it but it works in the ezio trilogy as well as the kenway saga and rogue ) all you have to do is be in range for Air assassination on top of an npc in High Profile and press shift ( or whatever key you use to drop down and catch ledge ) , when you do that your character will drop on top of the npc without killing him.This method however will make guards notice and take action against you.
Yeah, that's Tackling! It can be helpful in situations where there are no Guards nearby since the Assassin will often prioritize tackling them over civilians, and then you can be in trouble or get detected.
A few years after this video, a tech called Punch-Dropping was discovered for AC1-Rev:
ruclips.net/video/X40JpTnweOk/видео.html
As for the three Kenway games, you can drop from any height by holding High Profile + Drop before reaching an edge. :D
I’ve played so much Unity, and the RPG’s just don’t give me that same feeling of a classic AC game. I think it’s time for me to revisit the Desmond Saga.
Do it! :D
What made the parkour great in the older games was the agency it gave the player. Also, Venice in AC2 is the best: every area is unique and requires different parkour skills for transversal.
This is controversial, but AC brotherhood marks the point of AC games going downhill, and their fall started with the combat. The parkour from AC 3 to valhalla resembles the chain kills in AC brotherhood: its easier. Both parkour and fighting has been dumbed down to satisfy less disciplined players. While fighting has improved in the new RPG styled AC games, i miss the challenge of seemlessly fighting in AC1 and AC2.
Cheers! It devastates me the direction parkour has gone in, in Assassin's Creed. It used to be *the* signature system behind these games. When players thought "Assassin's Creed," they thought "parkour."
That said, I'd like to stress that Brotherhood combat was actually the closest to oldskool Parkour that fighting ever actually _got,_ because it operated on the same principles; you _could_ play it reasonably automatically and go 'easy-mode,' not expressing yourself via the mechanics available, but there was enough variety and expression there for advanced players to put their own spin on it and play even faster, even flashier.
What I deeply disliked about it was that we had all this power without any consideration or cost behind it.
Brotherhood/Revelations Ezio has an _unfathomably_ large health pool but he can still dispatch an enemy in one hit as long as you keep your flow up. It just doesn't feel right, we should be very fragile if we have such immense lethality, and that would've been perfect for me, as a fight-system. Not even necessarily 'fighting,' just outright Killing at any given time, whether in stealth or combat, is very emblematic of a capital-A Assassin and it's kind of a shame that they went with the system they did nowadays.
For an example of a recent game that actually pulls off what I want reasonably well, that'd be Ghost of Tsushima on Lethal difficulty. Enemies die incredibly quickly, in one or two hits, tops, but the player can barely take a scratch without being put down themselves. It's brilliant because it makes you feel deadly without permitting complacency. You actually have to be alert and engaged.
@@LeoKRogue YES. Another LETHAL mode enjoyer. Ghost of Tsushima's lethal mode had perfect balance.
The empty hand falling aspect makes so much sense!
I got all the AC games in a Steam bundle, and started with the first game. I was in the Kingdom area and would get shot off a view point tower and always fell. Certainly using Empty Hand in future! ^_^'
Nice! Glad to hear it was helpful to you. ^_^
I just got the Ezio collection, this helped a lot. Thanks! :)
I'm so glad, you're welcome!
I want to thank you SO MUCH for this, I am beginner at gaming, using a console, basically everything(!) and I was was getting a bit overwhelmed by all the controls but you explain in a simple way how they work and how to use them :) Just started AC2, and I already like it a lot
I'm so glad Mary, I know that these older games in particular can be very overwhelming, since they use a very weird control scheme. I hope that I didn't over-complicate things myself hehe 😅
@@LeoKRogue No, detail is always good!
Watching this so I can finaly learn and understand parkour and this video is actually making me rethink about parkour.
Thank you for giving it an honest try, and if it still doesn't really matter to you in the end, that's totally fine as well.
@LeoKRogue when I joined the community, I was aware that I missed a lot of stuff that the games didn't explain well, and iv been trying to get around to learning everything I can. And I think parkour is probably the last thing I want to learn. I liked unitys style and animations, but im not a fan of up and down parkour haha
This was really helpful when I played as a kid I always just ran everywhere but now that I picked up the collection I wanted to learn the actual movement system.
I'm glad to help!
Hi,
Not sure if you'll read this, but I just discovered the Assassin's Creed franchise. In 2020. I started playing the first one and fell in love immediately. I'm on memory block 5 at the moment. I always thought that Altair's stuttering movement, and the issue of not being able to grab certain ledges was just a limitation of the time. I'm gonna try some of these moves next chance I get. I'm not sure where I was going with this but I just wanted to gush about how much I love AC1.
Thank you so much Mintdragon. ^__^
Assassin's Creed 1 is my favorite game ever made. I'm really happy you started with it, because that's really important. It will give you all the skills you need, to properly enjoy ALL of the subsequent ones. I've known a lot of people who DIDN'T start with AC1 first, and ended up having a worse experience because of it later.
@@LeoKRogue I can definitely see why it's your favourite. It's quickly becoming mine as well. The sound design, the atmosphere, the way the game drip feeds you bits of the plot, how both Altair and Desmond aren't ever really safe. There were two major moments where I went "oh my god I love this game"; when Altair walked next to a person and turned his body to face them, and at the beginning of the game, when the game looks like it's glitching but it's actually a secret plot that I had no idea about. Sorry for the ramble, I'm just so in love with this game, and I hope the other ones are good, too.
Usually when I start playing a series, I tend to start from the first game. I played Jak 2 when I was a kid without playing the first one and I had such a bad time that I put it away until I got the first one.
Mintdragon fact, it pains me when I see people talking trash about AC1, I love that game
I’m going back and replaying the Ezio trilogy so this was really helpful thanks
I'm glad to help. ^__^
I had trouble with button discipline in Brotherhood back in 2014. I also knew none of the “advanced techniques”, I completed two or three tombs after much woe. I decided to start playing AC 2 recently and, now that I know what is possible, I am having loads of fun just moving around the world. Thanks for the extremely informative (and entertaining) videos!
I'm so glad, and so proud of you, Slowbuilder! It feels _awesome_ to learn new tricks and just feel your own power-level _explode_ upwards in a game, huh? That's the entire reason I make stuff like this, because I love the feeling so much for myself and I want to give it to other people. So many games become more fun when there's an easier way to understand more of the stuff we can do in them. You're very welcome, and thank you for the nice comment. :D
Leo K [Rogue] It is an amazing feeling! I was introduced to your channel from several of your Unity videos, which greatly increased my enjoyment of it. The way you make Unity look keeps inspiring me to pick it up again lol. The classic ones are less flashy, but it is really satisfying having pretty much complete control and knowing that it was *you* that did something cool, and a little less frustrating when you realize it was you that messed something up. There’s always some jank but that’s the nature of the beast. Again, thanks for doing what you do, you’ve succeeded in taking my Assassins Creed experience to a whole new level. :)
Absolute beauty of a video. I've been frustrated a lots of time and this improved it and fixed my mental thinking of playing this game
Thank you, I'm glad it helped you out. These games aren't perfect but we can still do a lot of cool things with them.
I was really frustrated with the parkour system too! My biggest problems are direction control button discipline. Like sometimes I must control the direction very precisely, but other times I just have to hold X + R2 + left stick forward and the assassin will adjust the direction automatically. This has caused me troubles a lot. I’m excited to try this cause too many times I lose health due to parkour rather than fighting. In fact I think that the combat system in Ezio collection (I have not played the last one yet) is way too easy. This is especially true with the introduction of one-button streak kill in brotherhood. Fighting got so boring that there was a time when I just took on like 7 soldiers with my fist without disarming them.
Been playing the series back to front over the last month and am so happy you've made this guide for the ezio games I've forgotten alot of the nuance of the early parkour system.
It's always an adjustment period going back, yeah. I'm happy I could help.
Love ur video got all my AC skill from u 👍👍👍
Thanks so much! :D
You're the one who practiced, I only gave you the knowledge.
Dude I absolutely love this, I suck at parkour in these games so this was much needed.
That's great! Did it help a bit?
@@LeoKRogue it really did, I just got ac 3 so I'm trying out these tips, then I'm gonna buy the ezio collection and try those out.
@@hinglemccringleberry6003 Hell yeah.
@@LeoKRogue what's your opinion on ac 3? And are there any other differences in the parkour system u might not have mentioned at the end? I know u already talked about it in the video so I dont wanna sound stupid but I'm kinda a slow learner so maybe just give me a simpler explanation.
Thank you! This is very helpful for a returning AC2 player (Switch version that just came out).
Also, your captured footage has a high picture quality! Good work!
Thanks so much. ^_^ I'm happy to help, I hope you enjoy Ezio's journey again!
something i love in ac1 is that Altair can foot-plant off a handhold on the side of a wall momentarily if you tap the legs button again and he will keep going forward, if you dont tap legs again thought he steps on the hand hold on the wall and then falls down since he can actually fully stand on it. its kinda a sudo wall run from prince of Persia and i believe thats only really in ac1 so that shows some of its prince of Persia root/blood which is really cool. the more I've been playing AC1 the more I think it has the best parkour system of all the games and how it just is never properly presented to the player. AC1 is a hidden gem far ahead of its time that I feel had a system that never got the evolution it really deserved.
It's my favorite game in the series.
Thank you so much!! I've been playing all the latest AC games since Black Flag and only recently started the Ezio collection. I was so frustrated with the controls to the point where i felt like breaking my controller. I guess it was my own fault! since this video I can manage it now a lot better!
Thank you! This kind of feel-good story is exactly why I make the stuff I make, I just want people to be able to have all the fun they could be having with these games. I know the old ones have kind of wacky controls, so I'm glad I was able to help. I hope you keep having fun, and I hope you love the narrative! :D
I today bought the Ezio trilogy because of this video, having a blast playing AC2, thank you Leo, I’d never consider it if it wasn’t for your video
I'm so glad, Tomato-chan. ^___^
just got the ezio collection and this guide has saved my life more than once
I'm glad for that! Situations like yours are the reason I make stuff like this. It feels great to have proper control and insight over what we're playing.
Not gonna lie, but this looks amazing in my opinion 14:50. Wallrunning and then jumping upwards looks amazing and it's a very good technique, I even thought to myself that it's kinda realistic but hard to execute at the same in real life. Tell me if I'm wrong, I just think it's kinda realistic XD
It can be fairly realistic, yeah. It would look slightly different when done in real life because of how our back-muscles and our arms work, but it'd be similar enough to feel familiar. You can watch some similar stuff if you search for "Parkour, Literally" on RUclips. The first video should be good enough.
ruclips.net/video/SMppD-bUNWo/видео.html
I recently played through the original four AC games after being a fan since Unity. I used to think that Unity was the pinnacle for Assassin's Creed parkour. Don't get me wrong, I still love it, but man the original system just had the sauce. It's crazy that it's been over a decade since this franchise has had a movement system even half as good as the first game.
Yeah, this classic system just provides so much control and nuance it's tough to let it go after feeling it.
The parkour on origins and beyond is like driving on automatic gear, it's much easier and smoother but you have less control. The older ac is the opposite, harder but you have much more control and is more satisfying. Thanks for the vid!
You're welcome, glad to help. ^_^
Man this just makes me wish that catch ledge/side ejects were a thing in Unity. I still think it's cool,but the older games felt a lot more precise. :P
Indeed. Unity does have Side-Hops, which are still super useful when identified and practiced, but I definitely miss having more control of my movements. At this point, adding _any_ kind of extra depth and variance to movement would be really cool, whatever it ends up taking the form of.
knew them all by playing a lot but always appreciate classic AC content. thumbs up
Beautiful.
Ahhh, so satisfying to watch!
Comment satisfying af to read~!
I knew most of these like the wall eject but now I see more opportunities to use the wall eject thank you great video. AC 1 needs a remake/remaster
Thank you for watching, and thank you for learning!
And yes, I agree, an AC1 Remake (but one made with respect for the source) would be amazing.
My happy dream is Bluepoint doing it. But alas, doubtful.
as a noob video game player in general, thank you so much
I'm no expert or a professional. But I'm content with myself at how much button discipline I've known all this time, on my own, without even knowing I was performing button discipline. It feels like simple intuition on my part.
Yeah! Some players have the intuitive awareness to do that since it's a logical exercise of, my guy does stuff I don't want him to do, how do I get him to stop doing that? I only use buttons when they're needed. And so on.
Great tutorial! I want to add that when you want to climb down quickly, look for standable beams jutting out from walls you will be able to drop down without fall damage. There is a limit though, if it is too high it will break your fall but you will slip off of it so make sure you’re close to a wall or under water
Yes yes!
Love the Altair/Ezio controls! Glad I followed the link, it was a fun watch. :)
Another thing I picked up on after replays that's a really gratifying detail is that whether or not you're pressing the analog stick in the direction of your jump arc is the difference between Ezio landing hard with a groan and him rolling safely to his feet to keep running. I don't remember off the top of my head whether he takes more damage if he doesn't roll (I vaguely recall that he does, and suspect this was my initial motivation to start consciously doing rolls), but it certainly looks way more competent in either case. And it boosts immersion! You'd want to avoid rigid landings as much as possible if you had real-life joint health to consider, and upon discovering this mechanic, you slowly start caring about Ezio's joints too. Simple, but effective mechanic for feeling part of the game. And just like the rest of the controls, the response is instant! It doesn't matter if I realize I'm about to crash without being able to grab anything only at the very last moment. If I hurriedly jam the stick forward with only a split second to spare, he'll still roll!
Teeny tiny detail but very welcome in how much it contributes to the feeling of conscious and custom control over the character's actions. :)
Oh yeah! You can roll if you hold forward on hard landings, yes yes. Always recommended. I love it so much.
This guide is the best I've seen
Cheers! :D
I appreciate the Membership too!
@@LeoKRogue It's okay, buddy! You deserve it
I started replaying and almost beat ac2 before watching this and the directional open hand while falling technique is pretty cool and I’m surprised I never learned that yet.
Nice!
Lol. I am playing this for the first time now during these quarantine days. And I have found this video after completing memory block 5. Pity me.
Oh no haha. But, still, you will know a lot more for the next ones!
I just realised that I’ve watched so many guide video for the ezio trilogy that I know what every button does and I haven’t even put in the disc yet
Damn, dedication.
Thank you for this. I was really frustrated and had given up on the Visitazion Secret Tomb in AC2. I thought the controls were just stupid for the game. After watching this I understood I likely hadn't been using them all correctly, so went back and after a few more tries I managed to pass it!
I do have a problem though where I need to hold HP because walking is frustratingly slow, and when I use walking and legs it changes to fast walk, but then i accidentally steal from everyone and end up in trouble 🙈
I'm glad to help! You can alternate between jogging (basically just high profile) and then dropping back down into a walk when you get near other people in the streets. Much like slowing down to play "clean" around edges on rooftops, you can definitely "greed" for movement-speed on both roofs and streets as long as you practice easing off when you get close to something sensitive -- like a person / wall / edge.
I am planning to replay the first AC game so this might come in handy. Nice job : )
Nice!
You can also back eject diagonally in the first game, if you aim diagonally. Not sure about others tho.
Yeah, you can do it in most of the original four. Corners help a lot. Hilariously, you can even do it in the Sands of Time trilogy of Prince of Persia games. Same thing, jump away from a thin ledge while on a corner.
@@LeoKRogue I meant like a wall eject
Yeah, I know. When I mentioned PoP I had to talk about standing ones because there's no side ejects in those games.
No matter what AC1 will always be my fav AC ever
Same.
I'm here from LazerzZ video!
This is really cool idk if you ever played any of the multiplayer in the AC games but id imagine you would have been a great runner/attacker in Artifact Assault. In AC4MP especially a lot of us that still play, use tricks like this in combination with just map knowledge and knowing which jumps we can and can't reach. Great video!
I used to love AC PvP, yeah, ever since Brotherhood. I mostly played Wanted and Deathmatch because those were what I first got used to, but I definitely dabbled in all the modes. Whenever I did play Artifact Assault, I _did_ very often attempt to be stealing the objective, yes! I love how I'm just that obvious haha
@@LeoKRogue Awesome man! Yeah I play a lot of deathmatch as well, I even streamed it a couple days ago actually. It's still pretty active on AC4 PS4 at least, and the lockdown seems to have got a lot of people playing it again. Anyway fingers crossed the parkour mechanics in the new games are decent, and the environment actually allows for it.
The goat with another amazing tutorial
Thank you. ^__^
This one is really important.
@@LeoKRogue wym?
Most people really struggle with movement in the classic games, even though this is the best parkour has ever been, in terms of possible actions and depth. (It's not the 'prettiest' but it is the best/strongest overall.) Therefore, it's really important that people have the resources they need to play it well.
@@LeoKRogue it was a while ago since I played unity but I honestly remember the parkour as better than AC2 which I'm playing now. I felt like there was more choices on how you would get up and get down a wall etc. In AC2 there is only wall eject to do a "stylish" jump but I remember u teaching me through another video a technique to get down from walls where you did a stunt at the end and other stuff aswell. Maybe I just remember the parkour as very good since it was the first AC game I played that had parkour (I had only played Odyssey and Origins before that 😂). But like I said I'm remembering there being a lot more freedom and options for parkor in Unity than in AC2. (Sorry for bad grammar, it is not my first language)