Episode 2: What Are All The Different Types of Watch Movements?
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2018
- In this episode, Cameron and Matt cover all the major different type of wristwatch movements, with examples of each and descriptions of how they work. We begin with the basic wind-up, mechanical movement, as demonstrated with Cameron's own Weiss Cal. 1003 manual movement. We then discuss the automatic movement, manual and automatic chronograph movements, quartz movements, complications and how you add complications to standardized movements. We finish it off with Seiko's revolutionary Spring Drive hybrid movements, and a tangent back to the 70's with the oddball Accutron watches.
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Far out I've learned more about watches from just these two episodes than I have my entire life
I learned that I am WAY too poor to like watches...lol
@@DHFHades There are some budget "good" watches (even vintage ones). I'm starting from the beginning on these, but I'm hoping they will devote one of these to watches under $100.
Pumped for a quartz only episode. I would like one with a few complications.
Absolutely love this podcast, so much information delivered in an entertaining way. Makes me want to make very poor decisions
*in evil voice* max out credit card for watches mwahahahha
This is great content full of such interesting information to geek out over. Totally looking forward to the next episode!
Great info! The Speedmaster used by NASA for initial testing was an off the shelf model. NASA employees purchased the watches anonymously in Houston area jewelry stores. The Omega EVA certified was a straight off the shelf model.
this is awesome so far guys! keep it up
I'm absolutely loving this. Learning tons.
The Seiko 5 is a great automatic watch if your on a budget. Quartz isn't the only oprion.
Great show!!! I am nerding out!!!
Enjoying these very much. Just have to find time to catch up since they are videos. Looking forward to a Weiss watch with a date!
Great episode!!
brilliant show..thank you
Bulova is owned by Citizen !!!!
A reason to run the chronograph all the time on an older watch is to prolong the life of the clutch that transfers power to from the main train to the chronograph wheel. When he chronograph is not running, that clutch is engaged. Much like a car if you sit with your clutch engaged all the time you will prematurely wear your throwout bearing. A watch is the same, the clutch will wear by not running the chronograph. This is an issue on vintage 6138 and 6139 Seikos where the chronograph wheels are getting harder and more expensive to replace.
As a further note, this only applies to chronographs with vertical clutches. Most chronographs are cam-operated, horizontal clutch, which means that the mechanism is controlled by a series of cams and levers, and is started and stopped by meshing two gears together. There is no friction surface to wear when the chronograph is disengaged; it's like an engine idling in neutral. The gears that are meant to mesh and un-mesh have a different tooth profile that is optimized for smooth engagement, but not smooth running. They wear faster than regular gears. Therefore, it's better for this type of chronograph to remain disengaged most of the time, until it is needed.
The only chronographs with vertical, friction-surface-clutches are so-called column-wheel chronographs (but not all column-wheel chronographs have vertical clutches). In this type, one of the wheels involved is part of the regular going train of the movement and turns all the time anyway. It is connected to the rest of the chronograph mechanism by a friction disk mechanism very much like the clutch in a car. All the gears are permanently meshed and have tooth profiles optimized for smooth and efficient running. When disengaged, it tends to wear away the friction surfaces. When engaged, it doesn't add that much more strain to the movement, so it's better to leave the engaged most of the time.
I always continually run my vintage seiko and citizen chronos for that reason...
Just found the videos because of mark from avg Bros. Great stuff can't wait to binge watch the rest of the episodes
You guys got some stuff wrong here. There is not quartz crystal between the tines the tuning fork is the quartz crystal. The Spring Drive is a quartz regulated watch as there is no escapement and the time keeping is all carried out by an ic and a quartz oscillator.
I thought the same and also the trip up with explaining how a machanical works seemed mr wisse didnt quite know the anatomy. Maybe just doing it on camera made him get things kinda off. I dont mean any disrespect and just for information i have binge watched about 10 episodes lastnight and today so i love the show. Just thought id drop this comment as viewer feedback kinda thing
You need to re read about spring drive the mechanical version do not have ic in it
These are some fantastic videos with so much information. Quick question though, do strong magnetic fields affect mechanical watches and would they affect a Spring Drive more?
you should talk about hacking vs. non-hacking movements
When he called his dad’s watch shitty looking 😂 34:52
This is the first episode I've seen and I really liked it. Plan to watch more soon. Also, hoping I can afford a Weiss watch someday. I really, really like the Deep Red with the 1003...
The Invicta Submariner homage, and cheaper Seiko mechanical watches, are actually really good for their price point.
Listened to this at work the other day. Had to watch it to appreciate the nerdery
i see what you did there.
You hit the nail on the head here. Car guy, love watches but don't know a whole lot. One thing I would suggest, I found myself wanting to go back in the video and find a specific movement and re watch.... No pun intended.. Obviously a bit of a nuisance from your end, but would be super helpful to have time marks. Really enjoying these episodes though, nice work!
Hey Guys! awesome video! where can you find the Accutron watches. They are nowhere to be found on the Bulova site.
Bulova is owned by citizen and they make sweeping quartz movements!!
Great stuff guys, unfortunately the watch cam has such a low refresh rate that the spring drive movement didn't come out well, I looked at another video reviewing the GS SBG to see the movement and that is amazingly smooth, never even knew that existed!
Yeah, when you're filming at 30 fps, it occurred to us that you actually need to film a spring drive at 60 FPS or higher to capture the sweep right!
Live and learn right? Keep up the great content guys, really enjoying it.
Guys I love the show . Would you please get a bigger table .
Great show. Keep it up. Possible guest suggestion: Scott Devon of Devon Works watches. The Tread 1 and Tread 2 watches are kinda neat. Also some car crossover with his car he designed. Think he is California based
U should upload this on SoundCloud as well
You should probably try to record at 60fps, it would give a much smoother capture of the quick movements inside the watch.
Look into the Fossil Q lineup they're hybrid smartwatches
after listening to the weiss episode of tst i researched watches and as my first mechanical automatic I picked up a fossil skelitonized watch, its not ridiculous quality but has the look and feel of a much higher quality watch than a basic quartz watch, would this be something that either of you would suggest for someone that has a smaller budget, also with the russian watches that were briefly discussed on the first podcast do either of you have suggestions for a reliable seller to buy from, thanks for an awesome podcast and look forward to seeing the progression as the kinks get worked out
I think the Fossil is probably a good entry point into that world while you save up and figure out what you want for your first horologically significant watch. The russian watches, there honestly is not a reputable seller that I know of, you really just grab them off ebay and kinda hope for the best.
I am planning on buying the same Fossil watch for the same reason.
mike sloat IMO You should consider Seiko "5" automatic. 50$ - 100$ new, plenty different models.
There are smooth sweeping second hand quartz, made by Bulova. Not too expensive.
It's fun to learn that this isn't some black art or something. It's understandable. Well explained, Cameron.
And Matt.😃
I am watching these in order...so maybe you will address it in the future, but it would be interesting to show the old Hamilton Electric movements, which were the first electro-mechanical (and non-quartz) movements and had the coolest case designs, e.g., Hamilton Ventura/Pacer (Men in Black). Just as an FYI, there are two accutron movements...the 214 and 218. The 214 is backset, so no visible crown...looks very cool
no kinetic?
You worry about magnets and your mechanical watch, and the quartz has it's own magnet.
I saw the Accutron on another website and for some reason it didn't look that cool. I would sport that thing. I can imagine people wearing that when it first came out feeling like they had a piece of space-age tech on the wrist. That is just a cool piece.
Actually the Accutron Spaceview was designed as a demonstrator piece for the salesmen to use to explain how the Accutron worked. They started marketing them after so many customers requested the "see through watch".
👍👏💣 klass
Still missing some types of movements
This guy looks and sounds like Doug from the Hangover
I know you filmed the first 5 together...but changing clothes between casts would have been a good idea...
5 minute intro!!!!
space isnt real so those watches are overqualified
Our resident expert doesn't know the purpose of jewels, has never heard of Accutron, and thinks there's a battery in a Spring Drive? Crown & Caliber can do better than this.
He's already admitted to not knowing a whole lot about watches. He's only been collecting for about a year. He characterized himself as the "student" and Weiss and the "teacher". Watch ep1 for more about all of that.
Wait, did you guys cover electric movements where a magnetic field is keeping the balance moving rather than a main spring?
Oh and to help clarify things, when the Spring Drive integrated circuit is adjusting the brake force (raised, lowered, sustained) at 32768 Hz, at no point is the brake bringing the main spring to a full stop. It is akin to squeezing a bicycle brake lever with different degrees of strength to regulate deceleration.