Episode 6: Cheap Watches!
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2018
- In this episode, Matt and Cameron explore the world of inexpensive watches! While it's easy to get lost in six-figure horological masterpieces browsing around on Instagram or Crown and Caliber, the truth is you can get a pretty cool watch for not much money; even a watch that's cool to watch people. We explore quartz chronographs from established brands like Timex, then move to digital G-Shocks, Russian mechanical watches, and entry-level automatics from Seiko and Hamilton all under $500! We throw in some vintage seiko and oddballs as well. Have a suggestion for a watch for our next cheap watches episode? Leave a comment!
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Recommends MVMT? Credibility gone...
No, no.... mvmt.? That’s crap! Do not spend your money on that. You can get a Seiko Snk809 for 100$ or less with an automatic movement and display back. Just do some research and you can find some great timepieces for not a lot of money.
The snk809 is butt ugly as a fake pilot watch. I love how people like to shoehorn their favorite watch brands into the conversation. People buy watches based on their looks, not their functionality, no one looking for a mvmt will look at that watch. God is that so difficult to understand?
casualsuede lmao relax grandpa it’s not that deep
@@casualsuede You're probably right, gullible idiots buy fashion watches.
@@casualsuede If you really want to know what's wrong with the design of fashion watches like mvmt or DW, explore a bit about bauhaus design ideology, these fashion brand are just using lazy designs and calling it "classic", you can check out TGV's video to know more
As a lifelong car enthusiast I've been a longtime regular watcher of The Smoking Tire and occasional podcast listener during long drives and such(lately regular listener as well as I've found myself with a long daily commute). I've always had some appreciation for watches from an aesthetic angle but they never captured my interest in the same way cars do, to the point I was pretty much indifferent to the difference between quartz and mechanical movements. As Matt started talking about watches, I developed more of a passing interest in them and when he had Cameron Weiss on the podcast and I actually understood what a mechanical movement was, the appeal of wearing an intricate little machine on my wrist popped.
Today I received my first automatic watch, a Seiko 5 similar to the one on the show(same movement I believe but more of a field watch style, an SNK803 if anyone cares) and love it. I'm afraid there will probably be more to come. So thank you Matt for introducing me to a world I never would have known I'm interested in and screw you for introducing me to another expensive hobby :).
Love the show, thanks guys.
In my opinion a “cheap watch” is something under 100$.
Sub 1000$ isn’t really cheap. Maybe inexpensive but not cheap. There are a lot of great time pieces under 1000$. I love my Casio and Vostok just as much as my Omega and Oris.
Casio DW5600 and Vostok 710 Scuba Dude for the win! Love my Vostok. ❤️
10:15 to skip to the cheap watches
It’s funny watching wealthy guys try to talk about Seiko’s lol
Right, I can't believe Matt mistook the SKX for a turtle
Consolol I was like wtf
Check out Grand Seiko, thats why he talks about them 🙂 they make watches for absolutely everyone. Seiko, not Grand Seiko lol
they dont really know what Seiko is
Seiko 5s are actually the best inexpensive starter watches.Should have included them in detail. Hope you do a Seiko special episode.
yeah we are definitely going to do the all-seiko hour.
This, they're a great watch for $60 new.
was just looking at getting a Seiko 5 for an EDC watch!
OMAR WAZIRI I believe orient is better for the same money, seiko 5s movement's are manufactured at seikos mayalsia plant with quality control issues. Entry level orients quality control is way better while there Auto movements are still japan made.
They are a fantastic watch for the price and there is nothing out there on the market like them. Now in saying that they are not a luxury watch and would not be as comfortable to wear as say a Rolex or JLC but then again what would you expect for $60.
People who say Rolex are not worth it and go for a Seiko do not actually understand what most Rolexes are.
And the Vostok Amphibia was innovative as it got more water resistant the deeper the dive due to the acrylic crystal.
Of course, the Vostok was not the only watch to do this, and not even the first. It is innovative, perhaps because of the size of the gaskets and the crown design, but not via the use of a plexiglass crystal and a compression / bayonet case back.
@@erikbasil2787 Then who made it first?
@@felixfourcolor I think EPSA, in the 1950's. Look up "super compressor watch".
Nerd.
Find it incredible that Mat doesn't know Seikos budget line.. as a watch collector, my SKX007 sits proudly next to my Submariner and the Planet Ocean.
Exactly bro.... this is turning me off...
He barely knows anything about cars, never mind watches.
Nerd.
Good episode! I'd like to see this topic again for sure.
If I were you guys, I'd do four more episodes on this topic. They would be:
1) All Seiko. Span the whole range.
2) Inexpensive watches part two: pieces from brands like Orient, Citizen, Tissot, Swatch, Casio, Seagull, Marathon, etc.
3) "Microbrand" watches! Either companies that use common movements, or in-house. Like: Squale, Steinhart, Laco, Gavox, Brew Watches, Monta, etc.
4) Just soviet watches, heavy emphasis on Raketa and Vostok. How to find them, what to look for, how to authenticate, information about the movements.
Guest ideas: Mark from Long Island Watch, Mike and Kaz From the Two Broke Watch Snobs Podcast
Love the podcast so far! Keep up the good work! Would love to see you guys go even more in depth on the affordable end, especially because there's so much there, and it's where most people start.
I absolutely agree with Mr Carson King-Fournier !!!
Carson King-Fournier dam the horology geek budget check list is set in stone.....I hope matt sees your video idea list.
+1 for the Microbrands.
The Russian innovation is the compression seal flat ring backing that never looses water resistance when opening . Plus a 31 jewel movement in some Vostoks that are super sturdy for cheap . This podcast was a little disappointing .
Yep Vostok is a much bigger story
man, this reminds me of a simpler time. I miss you guys. 😔
New watch cam is a game changer. Way to go! Model numbers for all would be great as well if available.
Another awesome episode!
I finally jumped into watches due to Matt talking about them so much previously on TST podcast. I now scour eBay for deals on Seikos and generally any old junk that looks cool. Currently hyped on Ruhla and Soviet/Russian watches for budget oriented pieces.
Thanks guys!
Thanks guys, this was very helpful! I recently picked up a Rival Carbon Renegade which is a full carbon body inexpensive piece. If you do another inexpensive episode I’d recommend it, I’ll even loan you mine
I'm here because I saw you on JRE lol. Im new in watch world but love my seikos lol
The new watch-cam looks great!
I was surprised not to see a Swatch Sistem51 in this episode. Bought one last year when in Geneva as my first step into a non-quartz watch after listening to the episode of The Smoking Tire podcast with Cameron Weiss as a guest. Now thanks to you guys I'm looking at buying an Omega Speedmaster..... Someday.
Love the seiko just wondering where you can find it
Watch Cam looks great! Good job Matt, I appreciate all your free content on two of my favorite hobbies.
I love the fact that you had that vintage Seiko in this video. Inexpensive watches don't necessarily need to be new watches. Thanks for the video!
The new watch-cam is a huuuge improvement. It ~is~ glorious!
As far as future episodes on Cheap Chronos, I think the Seiko 5 should deserve some talk. I don’t have one -been meaning to get one - but I understand they’re basically the Miata of watches.
Personally I’m a big fan of the Citizen Eco-Drive and Seiko Solar styles, I feel they really lean on quartz’s strengths while offering something genuinely unique, and you get a lot of watch for the money.
As a related episode sometime soon down the road, I’m really interested in knowing what to look for in vintage watches to get something solid and reliable and maybe even cool...for a much lower price point. So like the Russian and faceted Seiko but expanded into its own episode.
I bought a super cheap. like 10dollar casio digital watch in the style of the old 80s watch. bought it in japan. 'metal' band as well. totally love it. and tough as nails. that's the cheapest cool watch you could ever get. bought it as a joke and now i'm wearing it everyday.
ref. A158WA
Awesome episode! I was also looking at Invicta watches. They have some automatic movements on Amazon for like a $100. Also the Seiko 5 would be nice to see as many people have already said.
A revisit of cheap watches but only *used* watches would be a good episode. Also mention which ones are a nightmare to maintain vs less headaches in the used realm.
I love Timex watches there a lot of fun inexpensive and good looking. For a good leather strap on Timex they have their Waterbury line that uses the S.B Tanning Company Red Wing Leather straps that are great.
"Got a nice Sony battery in there..." 🤣🤣🤣 that is fucking gold 🤣🤣
I loved the 'watch' episodes of the TST podcast. Really looking forward to watching (& listening) to this grow!!
I agree with a lot of the other comments here. Love the podcast so far, but next cheap watch episode should definitely include more Seikos. They make so many varieties of quality affordable watches.
I actually started with a Tissot which, while they have some expensive watches, have a great lower end!
Cheap watch suggestions: As mentioned in this podcast, the Seiko Turtles(SRP775, SRP777 etc). Luminox Atacamas. The Orient Bambino though I bought two and both broke as soon as the warranty expired. The various Citizen Eco-Drives, especially their higher end ones. Also love the new watch cam!
MickAv8r what exactly broke just curious?
Miguel Garcia both movements are toasted. They both just stopped working. Gorgeous watches, bought maybe 6 months apart. One arrived with a screwed up crown, was installing at an angle and had to go back under warranty immediately. Was fixed but the watch stopped working soon after the warranty expired maybe 13 months later? The other died I believe some time before the warranty ran out but I didn’t have time. Both are now derelicts in my watch case. You can wind them and one doesn’t move at all, the other will work for a very short period then bind and hang up. No point in spending any money on them. I just learned my lesson and avoid that brand altogether. Gorgeous designs, but the movements are complete shit.
MickAv8r dam that's crazy I know not every manufacture is perfect even the most reliable like toyota. But I didn't really expect that with the bambino from orient. Orient has better quality control then Seiko( who owns about half of orients stock), and unlike seikos watchs of the same price orients movements are still made in Japan. I had similar luck with the iconic skx007. Nobody believed me since the skx's reliability is that of a tank.....but it happened. Have you checked out seikos sarb line? What have you moved on to?
Miguel Garcia yeah I know they get good reviews but I gave up. I do love the Seiko Turtles, the SRP777 775 773 etc and the srpa Turtles etc. other than those I’m moving up to more serious watches ie I just picked up an Omega Speedy.
a lazer pointer for cameron might be useful when pointing things out on watches rather than using a pen
Please have Jonathan Ward on, that would be amazing. I'm sure he's got a monster collection of oddities and customs.
Yep he is on the list!
www.hodinkee.com/articles/talking-watches-with-jonathan-ward
He has a great sit down with hodinkee if you are interested too.
Woah! Not only is the new watch cam INCREDIBLE, but a cheap watch podcast is exactly what I wanted from you guys!
I was somewhat interested until I saw that MVMT crap.... Seriously? Do you guys really think that is a recommendable watch?
you sound mad
Not mad, disappointed maybe. I really appreciate Matt and have been a follower for many years. I guess I was expecting more of an honest opinion idk.
they are probably friends with the two ass hats that started that crappy company
Yeah bro... The MVMT and the Seiko ignorance is turning me off... I am an enthusiast and I love all tiers of watches and like to keep informed. If you are someone who passingly thinks Seiko is an ok brand, you are not an enthusiast. They showed some iconic Seikos without knowing what those are... disappointed.
He said it was a sponsor. They pay the people they sponsor.
how can you complement MVMT. they are over priced junk. other than that i like the channel
David Haynes yeah, ovoid the fashion brands at all cost!!
Yeah! Quite disappointed to hear him propose those!!!
They sponsored him. They pay the people they sponsor.
@@henrygrey285 it bums me out hell talk highly on mvmt but completely neglect citizen. SMH.
@@flowremix I agree citizen makes beautiful watches for prices that actually make sense for what you are getting. A citizen eco drive chronograph was my first watch and it's never skipped a beat and ran perfectly for 8 years so far. It was about 300 bucks
Nice moves on the new watch cam. I have really enjoyed the show!
I’d love to see another inexpensive watch episode, and I’d like to learn more about Tissot. I recently bought a $150 Tissot and have enjoyed it so far. Would love to learn more about them as a brand as well. Thanks and keep up the good work!
I’d like to see you talk about Swatch watches, both automatic and quartz. Absolutely love the show!
Yeah, especially their relatively "cheap" platinum special edition.
15:42 I am very pleased with your new camera, too - Props!
Thanks for the wicked interesting vids!
Ordered my first watch today, a Seiko sgf206. Now I want that Seiko presage too!
Gentlemen, great show. My favorite "cheep Watch" is the BERTUCCI A-2T. It's a Swiss Movt, Titanium Case, with a Nato Strap. It's my Outdoors Watch. I wear it Mt Biking and Skiing, Rock Climbing and Hiking. It is hands down the Toughest Watch I own and at the price point of about $220 Im not afraid to beat the shit out of it.
ahhh the new watch cam is so niceeee it makes me so happy
How about an episode on just the tools of watch making and repair.
Watch cam is SOOO much better. Excited to see all the stuff you have in real detail. Really enjoy it so far.
I looove this channel. Please never stop 🙏♥️
Great podcast guys, some really nice watches for me to start getting into it
Love this , such a chill podcast 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
The Komandirskie and Amphibia watches had Vostok movements. The Amphibia is actually very good as far as waterproofing goes.
The movements were not half as bad as you made them out to be. They are fun to restore and to use.
And they won't break the bank
Paddy
I had a Seagull st2505 movement watch that kept insane accurate time like +-5 seconds a day. Chinese mechanisms are usually crap but this was a beauty
Hey Matt! Just saw your video on the other channel! And this is awesome! Because besides Cars I also love watches man! Keep it up and best wishes!
The Jubilee bracelet for the SKX is very comfortable been wearing it for 3 years. The clasp is very solid better than a much more expensive tissot. The downside is it makes a sound when u wiggle it hard...
What do you think about the Seiko skx where people modify them? I'm all for it and one of those people but it would be interesting to hear your opinion.
I personally am a big fan of Skagens in this sort of price range. I think their bands are really cool and intriguing for this price point. Love the new watch cam. Keep up the great work
love the new watch cam, how about a good work watch, I'm a carpenter and currently use a momentum dive watch. great watch but looking for an upgrade and thinking about the victorinox inox titanium?
Get a Tissot Visodate for the next cheap watches segment.
I've bought 2 akribos xxiv watches and I like the look but not crazy about the quality of them but curious how you guys would see them. Also have an August Steiner dive watch that's about the same quality. Definitely interested in that Seiko though as something a little nicer than those
Awesome job Matt and Cameron. Keep it up.
Another for the cheap brands to cover: Lorus(sub-brand of Seiko). $60-100 range. Have 2, not a hardcore watch guy, but intrigued by this new podcast by you guys.
love the podcasts. You should get more guests, specially someone from Seiko as you mentioned meeting people at the Grand Seiko boutique launch
As a RS owner and watch guy great video, and i like your style.
Great channel. What sort of Watch Cam have you got?
I'm just getting caught up on your videos and came across this cheap watch vid. Your comments on "wood" watches are correct if the wood used isn't stabilized. I use woods of many varieties for scales on my knives but it must be stabilized prior to machining of any sort. Stabilization is basically just putting the wood into a vacuum chamber with some sort of resin and impregnating it, then baking it to harden the resin. Once that is done it can be machined like any metal and it will be impervious to moisture of any kind. Anyway. great pod. I should have listened to Nick Shabaz when he warned "DO NOT GET INTO WATCHES", but alas I did not heed his warning.
Love the podcast! It'd be really cool if you guys could get a Ressence Type 3 in to talk about at some point!
Lovin' the show mates !
Cheap trick suggestions: Swatch varieties, Seiko 5 line, and the deep pool of affordable vintage out there..
Cheers
Love this show!
Cameron mentioned removing the battery when storing a quartz watch. I have an old Omega. Where to have it serviced?
Assuming your Omega is a mechanical watch, as opposed to a quartz watch, you can go to an Omega Authorized Dealer near you, who will service the watch and literally make it like new. If you don't want it to be like new, you just want it mechanically serviced and you want to keep its original patina without polishing, you can go to a local watchmaker or watch repair shop, who should be able to service only the parts of the watch you want serviced.
I have a Swatch that I picked up on eBay, brand new, for about $60, it shows the time, day of the week, and number day, the movement is loud and the second hand never stops moving, even when you pull out the crown, and when pulling out the crown, what you’re adjusting is kinda random. Overall I like the watch for how it looks and because I prefer a silicone watch band. I’ll have to watch your Swatch podcast next, loving the content so far!
(Also, my first watch was an older Pulsar Solar with a silicone band that liked to pop off when hiking that my grandparents picked up at a garage sale for a dollar, it lasted me from fifth grade to eighth grade)
I enjoy learning about high end watches and your opinions about the history of horology as well as the industry as a whole and current trends.that being said, this podcast sounded like you guys are just trying out entry level watches for the first time. I would like to recommend that you do a bit more homework and revisit the subject of entry level cheap watches. There are so many quality tool watches and affordable reliable mechanical watches from established companies that you can avoid fashion watches completely next time. Vostok, Seiko, Orient, quartz Hamilton and quartz tissot, Casio, invicta,timex, etc. I do appreciate that you talk about the practical aspects of the watches and just a broad overview instead of an in depth review of each! I’ll keep watching but you lost me at the fashion brands, they are no better than the 20$ ones on the chinese websites but they cost hundreds of dollars, huge scam, should definitely discuss quality vs price comparison of entry level pieces. Thanks for bearing with me guys!
I just got a tommy hilfiger brad watch,can you guys leave an opinion wether its decent or not,i think it looks cool but i have no idea about watches
The reason for this is that the people that are actually willing and eager to get a mechanical movement will make this thing awesome. This might not make much sense but I’m pretty drunk right now:-)
You guys should have a listing of the watches you talk about, with model numbers and such.
The new camera is really nice. Being able to adjust the contrast is great. How about a cheap midrange automatic watch episode $400-$800? Here's my cheapo watch list for me so far. Timex Expedition beige dial, Invicta S1 Rally red dial chrono, Nixon Unit SS acetate band, and today my Seiko SSA327 open heart with the blue dial shows up. They are all cheap but hey you gotta start somewhere. Next I'll be looking at midrange automatics if I like this Seiko. Hamilton Khaki maybe? Something like that. Great show. Please make more.
Hi,
Been watching TheSmokingTire for a few years now and was delighted to see you two start a watch podcast. Like you a while ago Matt, I’ve only recently been fully immersed in the world of watches. I was wondering whether you guys would have an opinion on a good, beginner watch to get into. I’ve been looking at vintage Seikos, any thoughts on taking that route? I’m looking at around the £150-£200 mark (which is around $250-$300)
Thank you Mr. Weiss, your chronograph trick worked on my Amazon Lige special, right before I was going to put in a ticket. you either just saved me looking like a fool, or cost me a free chinese watch!
cam is great!
Future discussion, Modding & 24hr dials on mechs
Matt post links to the watches on Amazon then folks can buy them and you get a cut. Win-win
The Faceted crystal is amazing. I have a green and gold Orient Tri-Star with the exact same crystal...must be a 70's Japanese thing. I haven't come across that on any other watch. I know I'm late to the party, but great podcast Matt. I love watches and cars, my kind of content!
Glad to see you got the camera sorted. Looking forward to seeing some Patek Grandmaster Chime under the camera. ;-)
I recently bought a cheap Bering quartz watch that was under $200, and it looks and feels great.
What’s the white dial seiko model called?
I may be slightly different in that I started with an Omega Seamaster 300 being a total snob with no idea about watches. Only now am I appreciating all watches regardless of price.
Orient watches are really good too, owned by seiko
What is the name of the other seiko watch that he presented?
Did someone say Accutron! I just bought a refurbished asymmetrical pillow shaped with 14k gold triangle inserts on opposite sides of the case face. I haven't seen any others of this style for sale in my search and the style of this one caught my eye. Gorgeous. The first time I heard about the Space views was last month and I knew instantly I wanted one.
I bought a Lorus chronograph, with day, date, month, alarm and stopwatch function for £50, and its accurate to a second per month.
awesome watch cam! what model is it?
Regarding cheap, I'd want to see you guys talk vintage, what great deals can be had, how you can lose a lot, cover frankenwatches etc.
For the quality control and swiss, to my understanding, Raketa and Vostok are popular brands that make movements that some swiss companies will use in their watches.
How do ya'll feel about Tissot and Victorinox automatic/mechanical movement watches for that entry level mechanical watch? I see a few of them online often in that 400-700$ range and have been cross shopping some with a few Hamilton models (specifically Tissot: T-Lord, PRS 516. Victorinox: Alliance, and Airboss. and Hamilton Navy GMT/UTC, or Pilot auto. Thanks again for the great stuff guys, and great upgrade on the camera!
Anoop Mathew I also am highly interested in exactly that. I also see a lot of quartz Tissot watches on a budget level and wonder if they’re worth it compared to equivalent money in Japanese.
I don't have a lot of experience with comparisons in this price range but I can say that my Tissot PR 100 auto has been running flawlessly for 5 years.
Thanks for the input!
I have a Tissot automatic with a 2824 movement that was about $800 when new (no longer in their catalog). I've had it for about 5yrs, maybe more and it has been one of the more accurate autos I own and it can be a daily wear watch. Also has a sapphire crystal.
My Hamilton Khaki Field Auto has been a great watch for about 3 years now!
Check out Mido, especially the Ocean Star line for great Swiss (Swatch Group, mid-tier) quality at really great prices on the grey market. There's no resale market really but a EDC beater at well under a grand is great for me.
Great episode guys! Might I add reviewing a steinhart watch next "cheap watch" episode? I think the ocean one is a good auto for a fair price. Keep it up!!!
I have the same Vincero but with a blue face. While it looks great and has good weight to it the pushers feel a bit cheap. Still pretty good value for what is mainly a fashion watch. Thanks for the discount code TST! One of my favorites along my Suunto core. Now i'm in the market for my first automatic by means of an entry Seiko. Great episode, looking forward to more!!!
Good show. One starter cheap watches you could check out is Orient. A show suggestion would be to cover smaller independent brands.
Spinnaker watches make for a great cheap automatic watch. I rock their overboard diver and one of their open heart ones.
I started with a Boy London watch that my dad bought me. Man, that things was so awesome when I was 7 years old, wish I still had it. Anyone else remember those?
Will you guys be on Spotify soon?
I came over to this podcast from listening to The Smoking Tire podcast. Didn't think I'd care a damn thing about it. I mean watches? Who cares? But after listening to a couple of them I find this immensely interesting. Espcially after listening to this one. Some watches I can afford. Havent worn a watch in 6 years. I just ordered a cheap Casio dive watch to wear again. Thanks Matt and Cameron. Awesome job in bringing back my interest to watches.
What are your thoughts on Glycine watches? I have a blacked out Airman that I enjoy as a daily.
First actual watch I ever bought was a gshock gstb400d-1a. I like the look of a g shock but I wanted an all stainless one without getting the larger more expensive ones. So far as a new watch owner I really like it, there's just something about that first one ☺️
That’s a 2414 Vostok movement. It’s rate is 19800 BPH. They’re decent watches as you can see I really like them, by my profile picture. A Vostok Amphibia Radio Room Dial. For the record this watch has a 2415 automatic movement no date. The 2416 B is an automatic movement with date complication.