CHAPTERS 00:00 - 19:58 Rick Shiels completes the London Marathon! 19:59 - 23:57 Why Rick Shiels still makes Golf Coaching videos? 23:58 - 30:54 3 things Rick wishes he’d known when starting Golf 30:55 - 48:05 Is LIV golf getting better?! 48:06 - 50:54 Can Rick play Golf left handed? 50:55 - 54:15 Break 75 at Municipal Courses? 54:16 - 1:00:54 Has LIV Golf become great?
I attended all 3 days of LIV Adelaide. Hands down best event I have been to ever! I’ve attended Golf tournaments in USA, Presidents Cups, AUS Opens and this was just different on all levels. Most fans were Golfers. Everyone was just having a great time, well behaved and just enjoying themselves. The players loved it, and they appeared to be grinding hard to win which was good to see. I also got amongst the team aspect as well. I’ll be back for more next year.
I went to the LIV event. The LIV product really suits Aussies. The majority of people there were golf fans. The music, facilities, volunteers made it a very easy feeling venue and so people got on board. Outside of the 12th hole, it was very well behaved and people were very respectful. It was the best sporting event I have been to.
@@thilog5874 yep. It was a party, we had fun. It’s not the Wiggles. The ruckus was mostly contained to the 12th, it was pretty normal outside of that. Everyone was well behaved. It was a lot of fun.
Went to LIV Adelaide on Sunday. Simply brilliant. Spent 12 holes following Mickelson and Cam Smith watching some world class golf. Then headed to the Watering Hole participating in a world class golf party. Followed Talor Gooch up the 18th for the packed out presentation. Will not only be back next year, but will go to the other side of the continent to watch if they decide to hold a second LIV event here in 2024. There will always be space for the traditional, gentlemanly golf of The Open and The Masters - I love them. However, there is also space that the PGA doesn't occupy nor cater to - golf for the new millennium, the modern fan. LIV is here, (not necessarily to take over the PGA Tour, they are completely different products), and LIV is here to stay.
well said and spot on. there are old people grew up attending traditional Sunday church service and then there are more people younger generations much prefer modern and contemporary styled Sunday church services that are much louder.
I was there on the Friday and have to say, I’m a convert. It was AWESOME!! What a change from a regular golf tournament. Got real close to players, great environment, crowds were nuts and a great show all round. Someone mentioned that the difference between regular golf and Liv is like test cricket and T20. A real party atmosphere. I’m on board.
I’m in Adelaide and attended all three days of LIV. It’s was a fantastic event and I had so much fun. A friend who came with me and is not interested in golf also had a great time. Two days after he hit me up to play with him at his local par 3. Place was packed and many people wearing LIV merch. The LIV product is finding its place and I truly believe it’s good for golf. It’s certainly going to bring new people to the game.
I flew up from Melbourne with a mate for all 3 days and we hit the par 3 course on Monday too. But while we were there one of our mates who didn't come to Adelaide (because he's not into golf) text me that he went out and purchased a set of golf clubs. He knew we were there, he'd seen the coverage on tv and now we got a new golfer.
Yep. It has the energy of an interview but the vibe of two close friends enjoying a chat about golf. Those round table discussions Pete Finch and others have don't work. There is no focus. Half of them are zoned out until they can join the discussion. This is much better. They both have to be constantly ready to jump in when the other one pauses too long. And I absolutely crack up when they play out a hypothetical situation where they both pretend to be other people and put on funny accents. They haven't done that for a while.
I think the key thing LIV needs to lean into is to become a truly global tour. Countries like us Aussies show up because we don't have the worlds best golfers play here on a regular basis. It should be one or two events max per country and than the fans really appreciate it ! Ps Rick you are definitely a Ripper GC fan !
Agree. LIV's key to success is becoming a global or world golf tour. They're off to a great start, but next year they should make stops in India, South Africa, South America and either China, Korea or Japan.
I also agree. Fans want to see the Worlds best players playing on their local courses. Greg Norman knew this and tried to get a true World Tour up and running for years but was blocked by the PGA. LIV may be our best chance of this actually happening.
I totally agree and coming from someone in the US I think they should only have about 3-4 events in the states (1 West coast, 1 FL event, 1 Mid Atlantic/Northeast event (NY/NJ/PA). They should be aiming to get more in Asia (Japan, Korea, China), another Aussie event, South Africa, etc.
@@conservakid85 spot on IF Norman in genuine in his wish to widen golf then minimise USA events, this year it’s 14 events they have to play in, plus where allows 4 majors. Not sure how that fits in with the plans for the players to reduce number of events
As an absolute golf casual, LIV is fantastic in keeping me interested in the sport. It's digestable and fun to get behind. 100% would be more likely to watch a LIV event than a regular PGA event.
We were at Adelaide LIV. Couple of points to clarify 1) I’d say 95% of the crowds were legit golfing fans who came from all over the country. 2) The fans were totally into the atmosphere and the beers were flowing..BUT… the no d#ckhead policy was always in place. 3) Any disrespect towards the players was not tolerated and the players saw this firsthand and loved us for it.
I had one beer over the 3 days, and was on tees and greens 90 minutes before start, also played Royal Adelaide the day before, lots of golfers a few party people but they were the minority
This is always a fav to pick me up, need it today somebody stole my clubs yesterday. Hope those clubs never shoot below 110 and every new ball they hit get lost in the woods.
Awh 😢hope u can get a new set. I only have my old clubs that are spare , my junior ones and there for like 12 years old oh yeh they are also left handed. If not and u loved in Ireland, then I could give it to you. Sorry lad 😢
I was there at LIV Adelaide and I'm from Adelaide and can confirm 30% were not golf fans, a lot of guys partners coming just to vibe and also can conform thr atmosphere was incredible. Busier thsn the president cup in Melbourne
Yep, like fans who watch, footy, F1, cricket, rugby etc, most don't actually do those sports, but they like watching, why should golf be any different?
Never comment on things but this I must. I went to LIV Adelaide and had the best weekend of my life. I'm a golf fan through and through watch all the pga and LIV events. We wandered around the grounds Fridays interacting with all the players and having the time of our lives and spent the entire Sunday on the watering hole right behind their tee shots, witnessing the hole in one. Went with 3 of my golf buddies who had been to plenty of pga tournaments and said this weekend was the best golfing experience by far. Even bumped into mito and nieeman at the airport for a quick chat and only could say nice things about that experience too. Overall best weekend of my life. Pga missing out on Aussie market we love our golf and if it's liv to come fill that void then all I can say is... IT'S TIME TO LIV!
LIV adelaide was actually great. It was the first LIV event that really delivered. These global tournaments are going to be the way for them to challenge the PGA tour going forward - PGA organisers have neglected countries outside of the US for years now when there is clearly a hunger for live golf out there.
Great chat guys, and congrats on finishing the London Marathon. As an Aussie Golf enthusiast it took me a while to warm to the concept of Liv but i have to say this event blew my mind. For Australians this wasn't just about LIV it was an opportunity to watch some of the best golfers in the world play in Aus. The Australian Open was considered one of the biggest majors in the world and thanks to the Open championship making this a qualifying event it still has some appeal. Nothing annoys me more than the US thinking they are the center of the universe. Greg Norman has been trying to create a world tour in conjunction with the PGA for a long time, he first started the conversation in the early 90's but Fincham refused to budge now Monahan has taken the same stance. Your comments regarding the DP world tour (played across the world) are spot on, but question why this is the case. I believe this is a direct result of the US PGA tour wanting to control golf globally but only play within the US.
I went to the LIV event, firstly I’ll say I’m still a big PGA fan as I believe that is pure golf, but as an Australian I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to go see some world class golfers and check out LIV, it was so much fun, it felt more like a big festival / party with golf happening in the background and as you 2 mentioned ,if that’s how it is, then it definitely has its place, everyone was there having such a great time, music playing, drinks flowing and I feel like they really played into the party element, also it was very well set up, yes I’d still love to watch a PGA event as it feels more like real golf, but I’d have to admit LIV would probably be a more fun day out.
The watering hole (12th) on the recent LIV tourney in Adelaide, was very much like the 16th hole on the PGA tour at the WM Phoenix Open. All the throwing of beer cups, water bottles and the cheering of the crowds, especially when Chase Koepka made his hole in one, really completed the "party" atmosphere that makes the LIV tour so much different than the PGA tour. Golf But Louder is really accurate.
I'm originally from the UK but have lived in Australia for 18 years. I have been to several golf events both here and in the UK. I took my wife to the LIV event, she's not into golf , but she had a ball. It was by far the best event I've ever been too. The atmosphere and the golf
I went the LIV Adelaide for 2 days and thought the same, a lot of the crowd must be non golfers. After listening to people in the crowd and being there for the 2 days I can assure you I was surprised just how many people there were hard core, informed, knowledgeable golf fans. They're not just there to booze on, they were passionate, respectful, dedicated real golf fans and the event was an example of when a great new concept with world class athletes combines with a great crowd, in a great city, with perfect weather. It all just came together to make something special, but all this BS of PGA vs LIV should just stop, there's plenty of room for both and people should be more positive and just watch \ attend \ support what they like.
We flew interstate for it and went all 3 days and with the amount of booze that was consumed i saw zero fights zero people stumbling around completely plastered. The players all seemed to enjoy the atmosphere and genuinely looked to be having a good time. And when chase hit the ace on the watering hole all drinks within arms reach went flying full or not.
@@MrJigab00 A truly epic moment, had a tear in my eye. How people keep slagging it off is beyond me. I'm a bit older, and a bit more "traditional" when it comes to my views on the music and explosions etc, but damn, it's different, exciting, they're bringing events down here, and I even got into the team thing a bit when it was clear Gooch was gonna win the individual. More power to them I say, can't wait for another event downunder.
@Shane Williams 100% will be back there again next. Saw alot of older folk walking around with big smiles on there face aswell. I think the relaxed atmosphere was great for everyone.
But why would you think that? If a few of the worlds best players are in your area then yes golf fans are going to go watch😂 doesn’t mean it’s not an exhibition
The aus open doesn’t have the calibre of the field Liv brought to Australia. In addition, the golf courses in Adelaide are too class, plus there is a large golf fan base. So the fan in Adelaide would be golf fans. Pack a bag, and clubs Rick and head down for a look. I’m a huge pga fan, but Liv is opening new markets and servicing APAC, Asian and more of an under penetrated regions that are huge golf fans
@@billryan8707 It’s remarkable how consistent these creatures are. Divorced from reality, the zeal of a true believer and too f&cking stupid to realise how pathetic they appear to everyone else.
@@WyldStallion-bs9oo No you wouldn’t. You want him to because, for whatever reason, you’re invested in LIV. But if you were him, you wouldn’t go to LIV. Which is why he won’t.
I went to LIV Adelaide, spent a day on the watering hole. It was absolutely unbelievable. In reference to your comment on the PGA of Australia events not being like that it’s because those events don’t have the world class talent like LIV bought us. Look at those huge names on LIV like Cam, Brooks, DJ, Phil.. all the big names don’t come down under when there is PGA events in Aus
So glad to see the coaching videos coming back. That's how I first found the podcast. They truly help me as a beginner and get me into loving the game of golf.
I'm from Adelaide, huge golf fan. LIV was one of the best, most exciting & fun weekends ever! Never, in a million years, I would have thought players like Mickelson, Koepka & DJ would ever play here. The atmosphere was amazing and the golf being played was even better! Amazing Golf is amazing golf, no matter what league it is played in.
Yea, this can't be replicated anywhere else, this event was so epic beacuse of aussie crowds. One the greatest experiences of my life. I'm 100% going back next year!
Thanks for talking about the LIV golf stuff in a serious way. I’m a big golf fan and I still love to watch the PGA tour, but I also like watching LIV golf as well. It’s actually really nice to watch a ton of golf in a more quick manner. I think you can watch 2.5 more times of golf in a LIV broadcast over a PGA tour broadcast. Most ‘mainstream’ golf news/podcasts just hate on LIV and it’s just off putting and tiresome. Keep up the good work and thanks for not talking down to your audience.
Cheers for answering question. Just to follow up. I’d say maybe 1/4 of crowd were new to golf or just there for the party. I do agree it will be tough to replicate elsewhere as us Aussies just have that nature to enjoy an event. And yes. When you’re in Aus next Rick do a shoey 👌🏻
LIV in Adelaide on the weekend was one of best experiences of my life. General Admission tickets were sold out for all 3 rounds. and there was an incredible buzz around the city. There were massive amounts of golf fans (The crowd following Mikelson, Garcia, and Smith etc was huge), as well as many converts. Keep it coming! At the end of the day, party or not, the fact that there were so many high quality golfers in Adelaide is what made it a success. There's no reason the PGA couldn't have equal success in Australia if there were some big names in the field.
I went to liv Adelaide and it was awesome. I've never seen top talent play before so seeing all those guys was awesome. Australia hasn't had golf for ages. And it's about fking time.
Guy nailed it on expectations, shot my best score a couple months ago 86, breaking 90 was my goal for a year, n been chasing it since. But my expectations are to shoot 95 to 105 so im not beating myself up for a bad day. Love the content you really helped me get confidence to buy my new-used clubs n get out there ( specifically golf bidder challanges!)
I have to say you guys explained me to a T. I started playing golf 3 months ago, started with a cheap second hand set of clubs and I got so hooked I now have the latest and greatest down to a 1k scotty cameron putter, and with the help of your videos I'm shooting between 96 to 103 every round and have plenty easy missed opertunities I feel ill break 90 within another month. Thanks so much!
i think thats what i like most about good good is the light theyve brought to some up and coming players from the korn ferry tour. guys like Akshay Bhatia or Parker Coody that i had no idea ive come to love and be excited for and cant wait for their go at the pga or liv tours
As an Australian, the LIV Adelaide event was huge, people travelled from interstate into Adelaide, it was a huge boost to tourism to Sth Australia, in the bigger picture, our State Governments are behind these events to promote their city, their State and attractions. I know friends who travelled from New South Wales to Adelaide to watch this LIV Event. Now the Queensland Government want another LIV Event, so we could see 2 LIV Events on successive weekends, the Australian public are staved of top golf players, thanks to the PGA not pushing for events down here. On the DP World tour, the PGA has destroyed it, with the top 10 finishes at season end getting entry into PGA Tour, it will be getting weaker each year. So sad for European golf, i loved watching the European Tour.
Said it when it first kicked off. DP World tour should have merged with LIV and then we would have had two top level tours. PGA for the septics. LIV/DP for the rest of the world. Massive opportunity missed by the Berk in the blue glasses. Keith ‘ plastic yank’ Pelley…
I was at LIV Adelaide for the 3 days. It was the most exciting tournament ive ever been to. Never thought id be also going for a team .. The Crushers ... watched DeChambeau drive the 4th green on the last day .... wow !! Ok it has its faults, but what an enjoyable 3 days of golf. !!!! Ill try to be there next year again !!!!
Travelled to Adelaide and attended all 3 days of LIV Adelaide, I've been going to sporting events around the world for 20 years and it was the best event I've attended. Great vibe. Great golf. Great fun. Best field we've had in Australia in my lifetime and amazing walking the course watching 15-20 guys who were on my tv playing the Masters 10 days prior. The crowd was mostly golfers, of all age groups, and despite the free flowing alcohol the security and volunteers were quick to curtail anyone getting out of hand and it was a well behaved crowd. The players were incredibly engaging with the fans, we had incredible access to them on course. If tickets went on sale today for LIV Australia 2024 I could easily get 30+ friends to book tickets and flights on the spot.
@@A.D.D.O.C.D.T every nation on this earth is built in blood. You telling me there isn't some blood money in US sports. America can never take the high ground, they got more bodies than any nation in this century.
Most likely not I didn't even know the event was on until this pod dropped, in fact until they announced it during the Masters I didn't know Brooks won an event either. If Liv want to be successful I'd imagine they need to take their tour to destinations that have largely been forgotten by the PGA tour
I am a LIV fan from now on. I love the relaxed atmosphere and it proved that these so called best players in the world can play with a fun environment. I am so over the stuffy pga with players who can hit a shot when it's noisy. I really liked the team aspect and how much fun the players were having and kind of rooting for each other.
I agree that it's a great time to get people into golf. My co-worker/friend and I over the last 2 1/2 years have introduced about a dozen guys from our workplace that you wouldn't think would be interested to golf. We usually go after work once a week during the summer when the days are longer and pay twilight rates. We can usually get 12-16 holes in and play a Texas scramble so they are more comfortable having a partner to help out. It's been amazing fun and they are all getting so much better every time. We have passed clubs down to the new guys and found cheap ways to get them, maybe not the newest, but good decent clubs to get started.
In my opinion only, what LIV golf has done, is what 20 twenty done for cricket, fricken enjoyable, if there was a LIV golf and a a PGA competition coming to town, I think I would go to a LIV golf tournament.
The DP World Tour has no one to blame but themselves for their downfall. Thr PGA Tour has poached their top players for decades and now they had an opportunity to work with LIV and get some of those big names back onto their tour and decided to stick with the PGA Tour. I felt sympathetic for them for a long time but not anymore.
DP tour is now the 4th level tour behind PGAT and LIV and now the Asian tour with the investment of the Saudi's in Asia, not only do LIV players play in a number of the tournaments the money is also bigger.
I was at Adelaide, spent all day on Saturday in the watering hole.... only two players seem to not enjoy/engage with us! Thomas Pieters and Matt Wolff!! every other player was awesome
Matt Wolff was not having a great week in general. His game was off and I caught him and his caddy having a heated exchange that went on all the way up the fairway. He was that pissed about his performance that he was still putting at 6pm on the practice green Sunday night after the tournament wrapped and was visibly very frustrated. The best thing about all of that is it shows the narrative about all the money and party vibes means it's not serious golf is false. Matt Wolfe showed me that competitive spirit doesn't ever disappear and playing well is always their number 1 priority. Was brilliant all round
Here is a video idea, not sure if you have done it before. "Go to a local range and help someone fix there slice, or other issue" I'm sure you'd get a good reaction and help out a average golfer with a common issue. From seeing a few videos where coaches fix a swing issue in one session, its just awesome and helps normal golfers understand how to fix a slice. Love the coaching videos!
Really help with my long irons. I not hitting too high now. My home course has allot of wind so I don’t need high shot much, especially for my 3,4 and 5 irons.
Congrats on the London Marathon, that's been a dream of mine to complete, along with all the other Abbott World Major marathons. I'm a mid to high 2 hour marathoner and an 8 handicapper, although sadly can't claim to be a full clubhouse member. Big fan of all the channels and love the content. Thanks Rick and Guy!
@39:00, Guy's comments, are spot on ("Rightly or wrongly, that's why you go"). I'm a 62 year-old fella who is no prude, but finds the coarsening of society a bad thing. Getting "sauced up" has much deeper societal impact than just having a good time. Rick's "It's Never You" connection - where he acknowledges that when it comes to childhood cancer it's always someone else - is surely going to be replicated with the same heartache because of the ills of alcohol consumption. No one ever plans to crash their car into someone else while drunk, or plans to become a lush but such heartache happens so much more frequently with alcohol consumption than the incidence childhood cancer contraction. AND the coarsening of society is a drag to the lowest in all of us. I love a good time as much as anyone - "If it's not fun, why do it?" - but this is the ONLY aspect of your wonderful channel that absolutely turns me off. You've elevated so much about golf and the wonders of what I call "The greatest game in the world to be bad at" that encouragement of such consumption comes across as sophmoric and beneath you all.
I’m already a convert because I like lots of the names in LIV, the good time it looks like and that team aspect is interesting. Another element makes me watch something extra to keep my focus.
Liked the iron striking video. I'm on a 4 index but seeing the basic fundamental stuff like that reinforces how you need to pay attention to the basics all the time. More please
The many rounds of golf you have played over the years will have played a big part into you feeling so good post marathon. Well done for completing it 👏🏻👍
Great pod cast again 👍Well done Rick on finishing the Marathon and raising so much for charity, as one who has trained for and also run a marathon I am so amazed how you did it in the time you did. You just proved to all my friends who say golf is not a sport that if you play it a lot like you do you achieve a great level of fitness.
I think the comments about the Adelaide event was good for all the reasons you said, but the golf was great and the course was amazing. I do believe that they did succeed off the back of the Masters since the players played well there.
Just attended Zurich on Sunday. If you don't think the trend is expanding the party atmosphere like Wastre Management then you aren't paying attention. So many people at Zurich that have no clue about golf but more than happy to be there for a good time. This is a winning formula that LIV started out with from the start. Professional golf tournaments are becoming social events and it's a huge cash cow.
Fair point. But they also don't have billions of dollars to launder through Saudi sports washing. If an Australian company would put up the purse I'm sure they would go.
Hi guy and rick, I recently broke 90 for the first time off of my 24 hcap at 13 yrs old, I played with my dad and we pretended to be doing a break 75 but instead it was beak 95 for me and break 90 for my dad. When we came in I had shot 89 and dad shot 91 we had swapped our goals 😂😂. I can't ever let him forget that moment when we sat in the car, me finnaly beating him gross after many tries.
I attended 3 days at the watering hole. I travelled interstate. And Was the best best sporting event ive ever attended. Both are different events, people partly miss the purpose that LIV is too grow the game to a new age generation. Guys like Pat Perez, Ian poulter are crowd favourites. They have character and thrive of the energy. Hearing kids say there favourite player is DJ and Cam Smith. PGA has lost a whole generation of young new golfers. Im excited for the future of golf.
Who is Pat Perez? I remember Poulter from Ryder Cups but he never won a major. Edit: just looked him up. Both of these guys are nearly eligible for the senior tour. Definitely the future LOL
@@chippycut1406 he is bad ass, you dont need a winning record to grow the game, you need to have x factor. get the new generation to pick up a set of clubs. Scottie scheffler a better player but he wouldnt inspire me to play golf.
Seeing most of the same players who placed high at the maters place in similar positions at Adelaide demonstrated to me that the over all quality of Liv is high, for me that makes Liv worth watching
Let me tell you since moving from Boro to Adelaide 10 years ago I've done the Pres Cup,British Opens and Aus Open and various other tourneys. LIV Adelaide by a huge stretch was the best atmosphere I've ever witnessed. Can't wait till next year. Also fist pumped all the big names , best 3 days .
I would say atleast 75+% were golf fans. Golf is HUGE in Australia right now, ever since covid. Golf has blown up here. Alot of younger people getting involved. And once they mention they are gonna have a watering hole. Just like waste management. Say no more. Everyone has seen that overseas. And want it here. Adelaide will blow up when liv come next year. Absolutely huge! They are even thinking about building a purpose built arena type building around that hole. Just for liv. It's going to be huge here in years to come
LIV golf Singapore was also a blast - great golf and great atmosphere , together with seriously good communications infrastrucure both on and off course - i am a believer
I saw your video with golf girls and you're an amazing coach. You should instruct for more youtubers. We can tell your passion is real when you coach. Keep the great videos coming Coach Rick! Cheers!
I was fortunate to be at the watering hole as the hole in one went in. That was undoubtedly the best atmosphere outside of a major “football goal” being scored I’ve ever witnessed. I did however just want to see the idols I grew up with, Mickelson, Westwood etc. So LIV is an exhibition event , no more than that but my God it’s fun.🎉❤
I totally agree with you guys about LIV. It’s not for everyone, but it’s still a viable product…or can be…to attract new viewers. Bottom line: Those guys can still play, plain and simple. BUT, I was/am hoping it does more to differentiate itself from the PGA Tour and all other golf tours…My plan: Keep the team concept, but it needs more. 3 day tournament: Day 1: skills competitions for team points (Long Drive, accuracy - breaking glass, closest to the pin, chip & putt, one club challenge, fastest hole as a team or as an individual, etc…things that RUclipsrs do that require a high level of skill that everyone can relate to….then, the next 2 days you do more of a Ryder Cup setup…4-Ball, better ball, 4-somes, etc…and then singles the last day…keep the shotgun start and loud music. STRICT shot clock!! Right now, anyone new to golf tuning in doesn’t really get a sense it’s any different than the PGA Tour, which it isn’t. Stroke play in shorts with some music in the background…big whoop…I’ve tried to follow the team concept, but it’s still a bit fuzzy…My ultimate dream is the PGA Tour culls down its season to just the elevated events (20-24 is more than plenty), and then the LIV events are played in the PGA’s off season around the world and the states (Like F1 and the LPGA) to get people excited and charged up…AND, PGA and LIV players are in both tours…LIV and PGA since they don’t coincide…at the end of each PGA season, the top 40 guys get invited to tour with LIV to grow the game…start in the US/UK in the fall, then hit the southern hemisphere during the northern hemisphere’s winter (Australia, South America), then head to Asia and then the PGA starts up in Hawaii…
Totally agree with Guy’s analysis. Example I have been playing better than I have in the past and been breaking 100 last few outings, then yesterday really felt like I was striking it pretty well and shot a 107… I know I suck, but really enjoy it.
had to just dip out of this to watch the liv highlights. Wow what an event! and some great golf. Certainly aimed at a totally different demographic to PGA. Can imagine folks doing an all day session in a sports bar watching it. Quite like to production differences too, with the LIV line on putts and the graphics as a change to PGA. It provides something different depending on your mood. Sometimes you want to listen to Ludovico Einaudi, sometimes you just need David Guetta.
Judging LIV without watching the whole thing or just watching highlights, just isn't fair. its not just a party, though the party is real. Pat Perez' birdie at the watering whole was a blast to see how much he cared and loved making that shot. The golf is really, really good, and they proved that when 3 of the top 6 at Augusta were LIV players, this is good and fun Golf at LIV. Watch it.
Local Adelaide boy here, the event hyped up the entire state, golf courses were flooded for the week and 40% of tickets were sold from interstate or overseas visitors. Liv brought so much energy and entertainment. All the players loved it, Phil’s thumb fell off and smiles all around. There was such a great mix of young and old fans that coloured the fairways and it brought such a friendly environment. I wish PGA and Liv could come together and figure something out, why can’t Liv be the ‘overseas’ tournament, going across the globe, with large prize money bringing in the best players. And then keep your traditional PGA style courses and traditions.
I went to Liv golf as well. I paid $450 to be in the Shark Shack at the watering hole on the Sunday, but I also spent a few hours walking around seeing different groups and holes. One thing that really impressed me was the interaction between the pro's and the crowd. Missed puts were felt by all, pro's turning to crowds, the crowd on the second green to see Cam and Phil finish their round while the rest were on the 18th. The Aussie crowds are always respectful, and I think the players fed off that. Honestly, the golf was phenomenal, and the course was insane. You get the feeling that the players are more relaxed than PGA players look. Maybe it's because of the fact they have a guaranteed income, but I think the fact they are playing quite amazing golf at the moment (witnessed by the proportion of them in the top 30 in the Masters) could be attributed to them actually enjoying their golf now.
LIV is awesome. It truly is an experience made for the fans. I went to the Portland event last year by myself and had a blast. Everyone there was having a good time and being able to interact, somewhat, with the players and get super close was amazing. I was hoping they'd come back to the PNW this season but sadly they didn't. I'm going to try to make it down to Miami for the final Team event tho. As far as the structure of the tournament goes, I think it's a really good model to build off of. I like the shotgun starts cuz it ensures that everyone is playing in the same conditions and that the round is just that, a round. I don't have to be there literally all day if I want to see all the golf. I really like the team aspect too. It just adds another level of excitement to watch. I get that's not for everyone but as the Machine said when being interviewed by Troy, "this isn't your grandfathers golf. In fact, he'll probably hate it" and that's true. Most ppl that I've seen that don't like it are the 'older' generation that like to think of themselves as golf purists. Those guys are dumb. This is golf for a newer generation and there is a need for that. Ever since Happy Gilmore came out I was wanting a golf event to be like that with the crowd making noise. Oh and one final thing to all those that say its just an exhibition. Shut up. It's not. It's a real tournament that's in it's infancy and making strides. The players themselves love it and say it's actually more nerve racking BECAUSE of the amount of money on the line. And for Cam Smith to say after his round on Friday that it was the most nervous he's EVER BEEN is saying something. And he had to come from behind to win the Open last year. Just sayin.
LIV did a great job in Adelaide. Yes, it's different and that's OK. But they sure had people excited. I think the big problem is in how the PGA Tour shut out players. Fans love Phil for sure and many others on LIV. The PGA Tour lost its luster because now only the majors have the best players in the world playing. Hopefully the OWGR system will change to recognize LIV events or majors will adjust their entry criteria so that decent LIV players don't lose their exemption potentials. The Masters showed that the PGA Tour and LIV players can co-exist easily. They have cemented their place as the top tier of golf, while the Players Championship has lost its place as the 5th major. The Players used to invite players from other tours, but not LIV this year. Even Jon Rahm said that it was not right that the defender could not play ... and to take his parking spot was petty. I wonder are portraits of past champs are still hanging at the clubhouse? Adelaide may have been a turning point. We'll see what the atmosphere in Singapore is this week, but it's clear the team aspect has an impact for LIV players.
Certainly agree that LIV should get OWGR points to whatever degree no cut/54 holes events are assessed. However to say that the problem is that PGA has shut out the (LIV) players is likely a bit strong. How many events would the LIV players actually play on the PGA when their first priority would be to the LIV 14 events, given the huge signing bonus they have received? Just recall that most of them said that one of the advantages of LIV was to play less and be home more. So it's doubtful that many would play on the PGA, unless of course they were kidding about playing less.
I Agree, LIV needs a signature event, if indeed the one in Australia is it, so be it. On another note, have you guys ever reached out to do a break 75 or something to that affect with Ian Poulter, think that would a ton of fun, so much personality and he has done very well for himself.
They should have a LIV event and then boost up the Aust. Open to rival a major. All LIV players plus open world wide qualifying. F the PGAT. Make the purse so high. Euros will have no choice but to enter.🤣
I think the question about golf becoming more expensive and inaccessible is valid. In my area, due to the boost in popularity since covid, the courses have raised their prices and are still booked up. And the club price increases has effected used club prices as well. Everything is more expensive since before covid.
Agree with Rick that LIV’s brand is now set with the party like atmosphere, but just to be clear it was not all about the beers and shoeys. It also was definitely not all about the party but also about the golf. It was very family friendly, event full of golfing nuts who were there to see some of the best golfers in the world finally play a decent tour in the Southern Hemisphere. I’ve been to golfing events all over the world, and the Adelaide event completely exceeded expectations as one of the best I’ve attended. Proof that passion for golf exists outside of the US market.
Guy I think what you saw was their perfect storm- what theyve been after the entire time. One key elemet was their big time players playing well and playng well early. The hsot gun start build exciement. I think also the team element is great as you can see the players not mailing it in if they cant win the tourney. Right now Pat Perez is the best money player on the planet as it seems no one can shoot scores when needed like he can. The Tulsa event will be interesting.
Playing with better golfers is a great challenge but I tried to keep up with a scratch handicap player for 20 years and my handicap was around 20-22. I went and figured out my game and I am now off 13. I don't hit nearly as long as he does but I am improving on my short game. Figure out your own game.
Golf is definitely more accessible today compared to when I started in the 1960's. I'm glad the Frisbee golf and huge hole golf never took off. We have Top Golf for that. There are also so many tee time deals and golf packages available.
Hey guys just letting you know I was at liv Adelaide. I play golf and I’d like to say that all the hole’s were not like the 12th, and there was fantastic mellow holes and heaps of golfers eg golf fans at other holes the quality of the players and golfing play was excellent. Please don’t judge the whole course and event on the 12th hole which was amazing, but all over the course had some fantastic Golf getting played on the other holes , by some of the best golfers in the world. It was just a fantastic event. If you wanted to hang at for example the 11 th 10 th 17 tee box you could. Plenty of room everywhere on the course. Cheers Mick
Just to add you could pop from tee box to green and catch it all, and the shot gun starts means you catch nearly all 48 players. I could go on but it was just epic. To see Phil, Bryson, Brooks, Patrick Cameron, so many players in one day it was just amazing. Feverish situation 🏌️♂️🍻
CHAPTERS
00:00 - 19:58 Rick Shiels completes the London Marathon!
19:59 - 23:57 Why Rick Shiels still makes Golf Coaching videos?
23:58 - 30:54 3 things Rick wishes he’d known when starting Golf
30:55 - 48:05 Is LIV golf getting better?!
48:06 - 50:54 Can Rick play Golf left handed?
50:55 - 54:15 Break 75 at Municipal Courses?
54:16 - 1:00:54 Has LIV Golf become great?
Thank you to whoever made these timestamps
I attended all 3 days of LIV Adelaide. Hands down best event I have been to ever! I’ve attended Golf tournaments in USA, Presidents Cups, AUS Opens and this was just different on all levels. Most fans were Golfers. Everyone was just having a great time, well behaved and just enjoying themselves. The players loved it, and they appeared to be grinding hard to win which was good to see. I also got amongst the team aspect as well. I’ll be back for more next year.
I went to the LIV event. The LIV product really suits Aussies. The majority of people there were golf fans. The music, facilities, volunteers made it a very easy feeling venue and so people got on board. Outside of the 12th hole, it was very well behaved and people were very respectful. It was the best sporting event I have been to.
Comparison of the LIV event to the Australian Open is pointless because the quality of the LIV field.
Australian Open rarely has any big name players.
@@myluresstuckinatree2111 huh? I made no mention of the Aus Open?
So it suits the Aussie fans because everybody was drunk?
@@thilog5874 yep. It was a party, we had fun. It’s not the Wiggles. The ruckus was mostly contained to the 12th, it was pretty normal outside of that. Everyone was well behaved. It was a lot of fun.
I fully agree with you scoaus, I just hope next time it will be in another city
Went to LIV Adelaide. This was one of the best sporting events I have ever attended. The 3 days was so much fun
Went to LIV Adelaide on Sunday. Simply brilliant. Spent 12 holes following Mickelson and Cam Smith watching some world class golf. Then headed to the Watering Hole participating in a world class golf party. Followed Talor Gooch up the 18th for the packed out presentation. Will not only be back next year, but will go to the other side of the continent to watch if they decide to hold a second LIV event here in 2024. There will always be space for the traditional, gentlemanly golf of The Open and The Masters - I love them. However, there is also space that the PGA doesn't occupy nor cater to - golf for the new millennium, the modern fan. LIV is here, (not necessarily to take over the PGA Tour, they are completely different products), and LIV is here to stay.
well said and spot on. there are old people grew up attending traditional Sunday church service and then there are more people younger generations much prefer modern and contemporary styled Sunday church services that are much louder.
Well said
100%. It was brilliantly executed by the LIV team. It has its place, and I’m loving its place is here in ADL.
I was there on the Friday and have to say, I’m a convert. It was AWESOME!! What a change from a regular golf tournament. Got real close to players, great environment, crowds were nuts and a great show all round. Someone mentioned that the difference between regular golf and Liv is like test cricket and T20. A real party atmosphere. I’m on board.
I’m in Adelaide and attended all three days of LIV. It’s was a fantastic event and I had so much fun. A friend who came with me and is not interested in golf also had a great time. Two days after he hit me up to play with him at his local par 3. Place was packed and many people wearing LIV merch. The LIV product is finding its place and I truly believe it’s good for golf. It’s certainly going to bring new people to the game.
I flew up from Melbourne with a mate for all 3 days and we hit the par 3 course on Monday too.
But while we were there one of our mates who didn't come to Adelaide (because he's not into golf) text me that he went out and purchased a set of golf clubs. He knew we were there, he'd seen the coverage on tv and now we got a new golfer.
Exactly the kind of people nobody wants on a golf course.
@@thilog5874 you are exactly the person no one wants on a golf course. the snob.
@@thilog5874 Make more money and join a private course. Public courses are for, you know, the public
As much as I love hearing Rick, Guy is so incredibly quick with his wit. He just brings so much to the podcast
i think it's what make this special, the 2 of them
Yep. It has the energy of an interview but the vibe of two close friends enjoying a chat about golf.
Those round table discussions Pete Finch and others have don't work. There is no focus. Half of them are zoned out until they can join the discussion.
This is much better. They both have to be constantly ready to jump in when the other one pauses too long. And I absolutely crack up when they play out a hypothetical situation where they both pretend to be other people and put on funny accents. They haven't done that for a while.
I think the key thing LIV needs to lean into is to become a truly global tour. Countries like us Aussies show up because we don't have the worlds best golfers play here on a regular basis. It should be one or two events max per country and than the fans really appreciate it ! Ps Rick you are definitely a Ripper GC fan !
Agree. LIV's key to success is becoming a global or world golf tour. They're off to a great start, but next year they should make stops in India, South Africa, South America and either China, Korea or Japan.
I couldn’t agree more 🙌🏻 Make it international 🇿🇦🙌🏻
I also agree. Fans want to see the Worlds best players playing on their local courses. Greg Norman knew this and tried to get a true World Tour up and running for years but was blocked by the PGA. LIV may be our best chance of this actually happening.
I totally agree and coming from someone in the US I think they should only have about 3-4 events in the states (1 West coast, 1 FL event, 1 Mid Atlantic/Northeast event (NY/NJ/PA). They should be aiming to get more in Asia (Japan, Korea, China), another Aussie event, South Africa, etc.
@@conservakid85 spot on IF Norman in genuine in his wish to widen golf then minimise USA events, this year it’s 14 events they have to play in, plus where allows 4 majors. Not sure how that fits in with the plans for the players to reduce number of events
As an absolute golf casual, LIV is fantastic in keeping me interested in the sport. It's digestable and fun to get behind. 100% would be more likely to watch a LIV event than a regular PGA event.
We were at Adelaide LIV. Couple of points to clarify
1) I’d say 95% of the crowds were legit golfing fans who came from all over the country.
2) The fans were totally into the atmosphere and the beers were flowing..BUT… the no d#ckhead policy was always in place.
3) Any disrespect towards the players was not tolerated and the players saw this firsthand and loved us for it.
Precisely, I don't know where these blokes get their info, from the bs media probably
Alright mate you say that
Yep, was there and 100% agree
I had one beer over the 3 days, and was on tees and greens 90 minutes before start, also played Royal Adelaide the day before, lots of golfers a few party people but they were the minority
This is always a fav to pick me up, need it today somebody stole my clubs yesterday. Hope those clubs never shoot below 110 and every new ball they hit get lost in the woods.
Had to go check those weren't your clubs sitting in my garage
Have been wondering when Rick mentioned he would retire his clubs after Augusta did he actually do it and if so what his he currently playing with
I have a whole set of clubs I’ll give you. Serious.
If you're in East Texas, holler at me. I have an extra set and we Shiels fans have to stick together...
Awh 😢hope u can get a new set. I only have my old clubs that are spare , my junior ones and there for like 12 years old oh yeh they are also left handed. If not and u loved in Ireland, then I could give it to you. Sorry lad 😢
LIV Adelaide was incredible. So much fun and the players LOVED it and were so interactive with the crowd… very different
I was there at LIV Adelaide and I'm from Adelaide and can confirm 30% were not golf fans, a lot of guys partners coming just to vibe and also can conform thr atmosphere was incredible. Busier thsn the president cup in Melbourne
Yep, like fans who watch, footy, F1, cricket, rugby etc, most don't actually do those sports, but they like watching, why should golf be any different?
Never comment on things but this I must. I went to LIV Adelaide and had the best weekend of my life. I'm a golf fan through and through watch all the pga and LIV events. We wandered around the grounds Fridays interacting with all the players and having the time of our lives and spent the entire Sunday on the watering hole right behind their tee shots, witnessing the hole in one. Went with 3 of my golf buddies who had been to plenty of pga tournaments and said this weekend was the best golfing experience by far. Even bumped into mito and nieeman at the airport for a quick chat and only could say nice things about that experience too. Overall best weekend of my life. Pga missing out on Aussie market we love our golf and if it's liv to come fill that void then all I can say is... IT'S TIME TO LIV!
LIV adelaide was actually great. It was the first LIV event that really delivered. These global tournaments are going to be the way for them to challenge the PGA tour going forward - PGA organisers have neglected countries outside of the US for years now when there is clearly a hunger for live golf out there.
Great chat guys, and congrats on finishing the London Marathon. As an Aussie Golf enthusiast it took me a while to warm to the concept of Liv but i have to say this event blew my mind. For Australians this wasn't just about LIV it was an opportunity to watch some of the best golfers in the world play in Aus. The Australian Open was considered one of the biggest majors in the world and thanks to the Open championship making this a qualifying event it still has some appeal. Nothing annoys me more than the US thinking they are the center of the universe. Greg
Norman has been trying to create a world tour in conjunction with the PGA for a long time, he first started the conversation in the early 90's but Fincham refused to budge now Monahan has taken the same stance. Your comments regarding the DP world tour (played across the world) are spot on, but question why this is the case. I believe this is a direct result of the US PGA tour wanting to control golf globally but only play within the US.
I went to the LIV event, firstly I’ll say I’m still a big PGA fan as I believe that is pure golf, but as an Australian I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to go see some world class golfers and check out LIV, it was so much fun, it felt more like a big festival / party with golf happening in the background and as you 2 mentioned ,if that’s how it is, then it definitely has its place, everyone was there having such a great time, music playing, drinks flowing and I feel like they really played into the party element, also it was very well set up, yes I’d still love to watch a PGA event as it feels more like real golf, but I’d have to admit LIV would probably be a more fun day out.
The Aussies love their sport, not sure the other venues LIV will go to will generate a similar atmosphere
The watering hole (12th) on the recent LIV tourney in Adelaide, was very much like the 16th hole on the PGA tour at the WM Phoenix Open. All the throwing of beer cups, water bottles and the cheering of the crowds, especially when Chase Koepka made his hole in one, really completed the "party" atmosphere that makes the LIV tour so much different than the PGA tour. Golf But Louder is really accurate.
I'm originally from the UK but have lived in Australia for 18 years. I have been to several golf events both here and in the UK. I took my wife to the LIV event, she's not into golf , but she had a ball. It was by far the best event I've ever been too. The atmosphere and the golf
I went the LIV Adelaide for 2 days and thought the same, a lot of the crowd must be non golfers.
After listening to people in the crowd and being there for the 2 days I can assure you I was surprised just how many people there were hard core, informed, knowledgeable golf fans.
They're not just there to booze on, they were passionate, respectful, dedicated real golf fans and the event was an example of when a great new concept with world class athletes combines with a great crowd, in a great city, with perfect weather.
It all just came together to make something special, but all this BS of PGA vs LIV should just stop, there's plenty of room for both and people should be more positive and just watch \ attend \ support what they like.
Great comment. I was there too. Many ppl knew the game and appreciated seeing the stars of the game. Walk up the 18 th was great!
We flew interstate for it and went all 3 days and with the amount of booze that was consumed i saw zero fights zero people stumbling around completely plastered. The players all seemed to enjoy the atmosphere and genuinely looked to be having a good time. And when chase hit the ace on the watering hole all drinks within arms reach went flying full or not.
@@MrJigab00 A truly epic moment, had a tear in my eye. How people keep slagging it off is beyond me. I'm a bit older, and a bit more "traditional" when it comes to my views on the music and explosions etc, but damn, it's different, exciting, they're bringing events down here, and I even got into the team thing a bit when it was clear Gooch was gonna win the individual. More power to them I say, can't wait for another event downunder.
@Shane Williams 100% will be back there again next. Saw alot of older folk walking around with big smiles on there face aswell. I think the relaxed atmosphere was great for everyone.
But why would you think that? If a few of the worlds best players are in your area then yes golf fans are going to go watch😂 doesn’t mean it’s not an exhibition
As a marathoner and a golfer, I really enjoyed the explanations of the corrals and paces broken down by handicaps 😂Congrats on a great race!
ADELAIDE was LIV Golfs coming out party...
It was fantastic.
The crowd was electric
The players were pumped up.
Phenomenal.
The aus open doesn’t have the calibre of the field Liv brought to Australia. In addition, the golf courses in Adelaide are too class, plus there is a large golf fan base. So the fan in Adelaide would be golf fans. Pack a bag, and clubs Rick and head down for a look. I’m a huge pga fan, but Liv is opening new markets and servicing APAC, Asian and more of an under penetrated regions that are huge golf fans
From what Guy says LIV Is going from strength to strength….and continues to be a breath of fresh air.
Now that’s pure unadulterated bullshite
@@billryan8707 It’s remarkable how consistent these creatures are. Divorced from reality, the zeal of a true believer and too f&cking stupid to realise how pathetic they appear to everyone else.
@@billryan8707 pearls clutched
LIV is perfect for 70 year old men (Norman) and 45+ year old players (quite a few of their players)
@@WyldStallion-bs9oo No you wouldn’t. You want him to because, for whatever reason, you’re invested in LIV. But if you were him, you wouldn’t go to LIV. Which is why he won’t.
I went to LIV Adelaide, spent a day on the watering hole. It was absolutely unbelievable. In reference to your comment on the PGA of Australia events not being like that it’s because those events don’t have the world class talent like LIV bought us. Look at those huge names on LIV like Cam, Brooks, DJ, Phil.. all the big names don’t come down under when there is PGA events in Aus
So glad to see the coaching videos coming back. That's how I first found the podcast. They truly help me as a beginner and get me into loving the game of golf.
I'm from Adelaide, huge golf fan. LIV was one of the best, most exciting & fun weekends ever! Never, in a million years, I would have thought players like Mickelson, Koepka & DJ would ever play here. The atmosphere was amazing and the golf being played was even better! Amazing Golf is amazing golf, no matter what league it is played in.
Yea, this can't be replicated anywhere else, this event was so epic beacuse of aussie crowds. One the greatest experiences of my life. I'm 100% going back next year!
Thanks for talking about the LIV golf stuff in a serious way. I’m a big golf fan and I still love to watch the PGA tour, but I also like watching LIV golf as well. It’s actually really nice to watch a ton of golf in a more quick manner. I think you can watch 2.5 more times of golf in a LIV broadcast over a PGA tour broadcast. Most ‘mainstream’ golf news/podcasts just hate on LIV and it’s just off putting and tiresome. Keep up the good work and thanks for not talking down to your audience.
Cheers for answering question. Just to follow up. I’d say maybe 1/4 of crowd were new to golf or just there for the party.
I do agree it will be tough to replicate elsewhere as us Aussies just have that nature to enjoy an event.
And yes. When you’re in Aus next Rick do a shoey 👌🏻
LIV in Adelaide on the weekend was one of best experiences of my life.
General Admission tickets were sold out for all 3 rounds. and there was an incredible buzz around the city.
There were massive amounts of golf fans (The crowd following Mikelson, Garcia, and Smith etc was huge), as well as many converts. Keep it coming!
At the end of the day, party or not, the fact that there were so many high quality golfers in Adelaide is what made it a success. There's no reason the PGA couldn't have equal success in Australia if there were some big names in the field.
I went to liv Adelaide and it was awesome. I've never seen top talent play before so seeing all those guys was awesome.
Australia hasn't had golf for ages. And it's about fking time.
Guy nailed it on expectations, shot my best score a couple months ago 86, breaking 90 was my goal for a year, n been chasing it since. But my expectations are to shoot 95 to 105 so im not beating myself up for a bad day. Love the content you really helped me get confidence to buy my new-used clubs n get out there ( specifically golf bidder challanges!)
I have to say you guys explained me to a T. I started playing golf 3 months ago, started with a cheap second hand set of clubs and I got so hooked I now have the latest and greatest down to a 1k scotty cameron putter, and with the help of your videos I'm shooting between 96 to 103 every round and have plenty easy missed opertunities I feel ill break 90 within another month. Thanks so much!
i think thats what i like most about good good is the light theyve brought to some up and coming players from the korn ferry tour. guys like Akshay Bhatia or Parker Coody that i had no idea ive come to love and be excited for and cant wait for their go at the pga or liv tours
As an Australian, the LIV Adelaide event was huge, people travelled from interstate into Adelaide, it was a huge boost to tourism to Sth Australia, in the bigger picture, our State Governments are behind these events to promote their city, their State and attractions. I know friends who travelled from New South Wales to Adelaide to watch this LIV Event. Now the Queensland Government want another LIV Event, so we could see 2 LIV Events on successive weekends, the Australian public are staved of top golf players, thanks to the PGA not pushing for events down here. On the DP World tour, the PGA has destroyed it, with the top 10 finishes at season end getting entry into PGA Tour, it will be getting weaker each year. So sad for European golf, i loved watching the European Tour.
The commentary on the DP world was OK last time I watched it on YT.
What pissed me off is they almost exclusively followed Rory... So boring
Said it when it first kicked off. DP World tour should have merged with LIV and then we would have had two top level tours. PGA for the septics. LIV/DP for the rest of the world. Massive opportunity missed by the Berk in the blue glasses. Keith ‘ plastic yank’ Pelley…
@@triniexpatgolfer4397 so true, what a tour that would be !
I was at LIV Adelaide for the 3 days. It was the most exciting tournament ive ever been to. Never thought id be also going for a team .. The Crushers ... watched DeChambeau drive the 4th green on the last day .... wow !! Ok it has its faults, but what an enjoyable 3 days of golf. !!!! Ill try to be there next year again !!!!
Travelled to Adelaide and attended all 3 days of LIV Adelaide, I've been going to sporting events around the world for 20 years and it was the best event I've attended. Great vibe. Great golf. Great fun. Best field we've had in Australia in my lifetime and amazing walking the course watching 15-20 guys who were on my tv playing the Masters 10 days prior. The crowd was mostly golfers, of all age groups, and despite the free flowing alcohol the security and volunteers were quick to curtail anyone getting out of hand and it was a well behaved crowd. The players were incredibly engaging with the fans, we had incredible access to them on course. If tickets went on sale today for LIV Australia 2024 I could easily get 30+ friends to book tickets and flights on the spot.
Not sure People out of Australia realise how big an event this was for us down under. No top level golf for a long time. Before Tiger there was Greg
Then Greg sold out for Saudi cash and spits in his home countries face with one poxy event.
Forgot where he comes from.
@@A.D.D.O.C.D.T every nation on this earth is built in blood. You telling me there isn't some blood money in US sports. America can never take the high ground, they got more bodies than any nation in this century.
Most likely not I didn't even know the event was on until this pod dropped, in fact until they announced it during the Masters I didn't know Brooks won an event either.
If Liv want to be successful I'd imagine they need to take their tour to destinations that have largely been forgotten by the PGA tour
I am a LIV fan from now on. I love the relaxed atmosphere and it proved that these so called best players in the world can play with a fun environment. I am so over the stuffy pga with players who can hit a shot when it's noisy. I really liked the team aspect and how much fun the players were having and kind of rooting for each other.
I agree that it's a great time to get people into golf. My co-worker/friend and I over the last 2 1/2 years have introduced about a dozen guys from our workplace that you wouldn't think would be interested to golf. We usually go after work once a week during the summer when the days are longer and pay twilight rates. We can usually get 12-16 holes in and play a Texas scramble so they are more comfortable having a partner to help out. It's been amazing fun and they are all getting so much better every time. We have passed clubs down to the new guys and found cheap ways to get them, maybe not the newest, but good decent clubs to get started.
I was at the LIV event, I’ll say this 90% of the competitors loved the atmosphere, the Spaniards weren’t that excited but majority loved it
Right on Rick…..absolutely the reason I instruct/coach….best feeling is seeing that light come on in clients head..
Over the years you've help me loads with my game like many out there,thank you Rick
I followed Stenson for 2 days as a Marshall, he was having a great time interacting with the kids…and seemed to be having a lot of fun
Chatted spontaneously with the crowd signed hats etc between holes, he is a genuine guy and friendly, he suits LIV more than people expect.
In my opinion only, what LIV golf has done, is what 20 twenty done for cricket, fricken enjoyable, if there was a LIV golf and a a PGA competition coming to town, I think I would go to a LIV golf tournament.
The naysayers are having to change their attitude to LIV, these two have obviously been reading the golf media since Adelaide...
The DP World Tour has no one to blame but themselves for their downfall. Thr PGA Tour has poached their top players for decades and now they had an opportunity to work with LIV and get some of those big names back onto their tour and decided to stick with the PGA Tour. I felt sympathetic for them for a long time but not anymore.
Yep, the DP tour went into a 'Special relationship' with the PGA...it was only ever going to benefit one side...
DP tour is now the 4th level tour behind PGAT and LIV and now the Asian tour with the investment of the Saudi's in Asia, not only do LIV players play in a number of the tournaments the money is also bigger.
I was at Adelaide, spent all day on Saturday in the watering hole.... only two players seem to not enjoy/engage with us! Thomas Pieters and Matt Wolff!! every other player was awesome
Matt Wolff was not having a great week in general. His game was off and I caught him and his caddy having a heated exchange that went on all the way up the fairway. He was that pissed about his performance that he was still putting at 6pm on the practice green Sunday night after the tournament wrapped and was visibly very frustrated.
The best thing about all of that is it shows the narrative about all the money and party vibes means it's not serious golf is false. Matt Wolfe showed me that competitive spirit doesn't ever disappear and playing well is always their number 1 priority. Was brilliant all round
Phil and Brooks killing it at the Masters is what has started this turn around for LIV. Changed the whole narrative
Here is a video idea, not sure if you have done it before. "Go to a local range and help someone fix there slice, or other issue" I'm sure you'd get a good reaction and help out a average golfer with a common issue. From seeing a few videos where coaches fix a swing issue in one session, its just awesome and helps normal golfers understand how to fix a slice. Love the coaching videos!
Really help with my long irons. I not hitting too high now. My home course has allot of wind so I don’t need high shot much, especially for my 3,4 and 5 irons.
Congrats on the London Marathon, that's been a dream of mine to complete, along with all the other Abbott World Major marathons. I'm a mid to high 2 hour marathoner and an 8 handicapper, although sadly can't claim to be a full clubhouse member. Big fan of all the channels and love the content. Thanks Rick and Guy!
Attending liv made me a hardcore fan ❤ the pod
@39:00, Guy's comments, are spot on ("Rightly or wrongly, that's why you go"). I'm a 62 year-old fella who is no prude, but finds the coarsening of society a bad thing. Getting "sauced up" has much deeper societal impact than just having a good time. Rick's "It's Never You" connection - where he acknowledges that when it comes to childhood cancer it's always someone else - is surely going to be replicated with the same heartache because of the ills of alcohol consumption. No one ever plans to crash their car into someone else while drunk, or plans to become a lush but such heartache happens so much more frequently with alcohol consumption than the incidence childhood cancer contraction. AND the coarsening of society is a drag to the lowest in all of us. I love a good time as much as anyone - "If it's not fun, why do it?" - but this is the ONLY aspect of your wonderful channel that absolutely turns me off. You've elevated so much about golf and the wonders of what I call "The greatest game in the world to be bad at" that encouragement of such consumption comes across as sophmoric and beneath you all.
I’m already a convert because I like lots of the names in LIV, the good time it looks like and that team aspect is interesting. Another element makes me watch something extra to keep my focus.
Liked the iron striking video. I'm on a 4 index but seeing the basic fundamental stuff like that reinforces how you need to pay attention to the basics all the time. More please
The many rounds of golf you have played over the years will have played a big part into you feeling so good post marathon. Well done for completing it 👏🏻👍
Great pod cast again 👍Well done Rick on finishing the Marathon and raising so much for charity, as one who has trained for and also run a marathon I am so amazed how you did it in the time you did. You just proved to all my friends who say golf is not a sport that if you play it a lot like you do you achieve a great level of fitness.
I think each LIV event should have a RUclips golfer competing. Rick being the first one up. Would boost the following!
I think Guy’s bad American accent is my favorite.
Absolutely my favourite hour of media of the week.
I think LIV is to the PGA as a Country Club Driving Range is to Top Golf.
lol and I'll take Top Golf any day of the week over that
I think the comments about the Adelaide event was good for all the reasons you said, but the golf was great and the course was amazing. I do believe that they did succeed off the back of the Masters since the players played well there.
The thing missed on the podcast was actually how good the golf was on the weekend.
Just attended Zurich on Sunday. If you don't think the trend is expanding the party atmosphere like Wastre Management then you aren't paying attention. So many people at Zurich that have no clue about golf but more than happy to be there for a good time. This is a winning formula that LIV started out with from the start. Professional golf tournaments are becoming social events and it's a huge cash cow.
The PGA never let their players go to Australia, so it was so good to see some good players
Exactly. Players like Cam and Mark L just relished being home for a while
Fair point. But they also don't have billions of dollars to launder through Saudi sports washing. If an Australian company would put up the purse I'm sure they would go.
@@chippycut1406finally someone with a brain
Hi guy and rick, I recently broke 90 for the first time off of my 24 hcap at 13 yrs old, I played with my dad and we pretended to be doing a break 75 but instead it was beak 95 for me and break 90 for my dad. When we came in I had shot 89 and dad shot 91 we had swapped our goals 😂😂. I can't ever let him forget that moment when we sat in the car, me finnaly beating him gross after many tries.
I attended 3 days at the watering hole. I travelled interstate. And Was the best best sporting event ive ever attended. Both are different events, people partly miss the purpose that LIV is too grow the game to a new age generation.
Guys like Pat Perez, Ian poulter are crowd favourites. They have character and thrive of the energy. Hearing kids say there favourite player is DJ and Cam Smith. PGA has lost a whole generation of young new golfers. Im excited for the future of golf.
Who is Pat Perez? I remember Poulter from Ryder Cups but he never won a major.
Edit: just looked him up. Both of these guys are nearly eligible for the senior tour. Definitely the future LOL
@@chippycut1406 he is bad ass, you dont need a winning record to grow the game, you need to have x factor. get the new generation to pick up a set of clubs. Scottie scheffler a better player but he wouldnt inspire me to play golf.
@@jazzamac3796 I'm not sure which one you're talking about but the two pre-seniors that I referenced I care less than zero about. No worries mate
@@chippycut1406 The caravan moves on...
Seeing most of the same players who placed high at the maters place in similar positions at Adelaide demonstrated to me that the over all quality of Liv is high, for me that makes Liv worth watching
Let me tell you since moving from Boro to Adelaide 10 years ago I've done the Pres Cup,British Opens and Aus Open and various other tourneys. LIV Adelaide by a huge stretch was the best atmosphere I've ever witnessed.
Can't wait till next year. Also fist pumped all the big names , best 3 days .
I would say atleast 75+% were golf fans. Golf is HUGE in Australia right now, ever since covid. Golf has blown up here. Alot of younger people getting involved. And once they mention they are gonna have a watering hole. Just like waste management. Say no more. Everyone has seen that overseas. And want it here. Adelaide will blow up when liv come next year. Absolutely huge! They are even thinking about building a purpose built arena type building around that hole. Just for liv. It's going to be huge here in years to come
LIV golf Singapore was also a blast - great golf and great atmosphere , together with seriously good communications infrastrucure both on and off course - i am a believer
I watched all 3 rounds of LIV and now this weekend is a high quality leaderboard. LIV is here to stay
liv and let live more golf for us all to watch .
thee aussie fans were amazing .
congrats on the marathon Mr Shiels
I saw your video with golf girls and you're an amazing coach. You should instruct for more youtubers. We can tell your passion is real when you coach. Keep the great videos coming Coach Rick! Cheers!
I was fortunate to be at the watering hole as the hole in one went in.
That was undoubtedly the best atmosphere outside of a major “football goal” being scored I’ve ever witnessed.
I did however just want to see the idols I grew up with, Mickelson, Westwood etc.
So LIV is an exhibition event , no more than that but my God it’s fun.🎉❤
I totally agree with you guys about LIV. It’s not for everyone, but it’s still a viable product…or can be…to attract new viewers. Bottom line: Those guys can still play, plain and simple. BUT, I was/am hoping it does more to differentiate itself from the PGA Tour and all other golf tours…My plan: Keep the team concept, but it needs more. 3 day tournament: Day 1: skills competitions for team points (Long Drive, accuracy - breaking glass, closest to the pin, chip & putt, one club challenge, fastest hole as a team or as an individual, etc…things that RUclipsrs do that require a high level of skill that everyone can relate to….then, the next 2 days you do more of a Ryder Cup setup…4-Ball, better ball, 4-somes, etc…and then singles the last day…keep the shotgun start and loud music. STRICT shot clock!! Right now, anyone new to golf tuning in doesn’t really get a sense it’s any different than the PGA Tour, which it isn’t. Stroke play in shorts with some music in the background…big whoop…I’ve tried to follow the team concept, but it’s still a bit fuzzy…My ultimate dream is the PGA Tour culls down its season to just the elevated events (20-24 is more than plenty), and then the LIV events are played in the PGA’s off season around the world and the states (Like F1 and the LPGA) to get people excited and charged up…AND, PGA and LIV players are in both tours…LIV and PGA since they don’t coincide…at the end of each PGA season, the top 40 guys get invited to tour with LIV to grow the game…start in the US/UK in the fall, then hit the southern hemisphere during the northern hemisphere’s winter (Australia, South America), then head to Asia and then the PGA starts up in Hawaii…
Rick, you’ve nothing to prove. You’re a great pga pro. I’m a pga professional in China and some of my students watch you and love it.
Totally agree with Guy’s analysis. Example I have been playing better than I have in the past and been breaking 100 last few outings, then yesterday really felt like I was striking it pretty well and shot a 107… I know I suck, but really enjoy it.
had to just dip out of this to watch the liv highlights. Wow what an event! and some great golf. Certainly aimed at a totally different demographic to PGA. Can imagine folks doing an all day session in a sports bar watching it. Quite like to production differences too, with the LIV line on putts and the graphics as a change to PGA. It provides something different depending on your mood. Sometimes you want to listen to Ludovico Einaudi, sometimes you just need David Guetta.
Judging LIV without watching the whole thing or just watching highlights, just isn't fair. its not just a party, though the party is real. Pat Perez' birdie at the watering whole was a blast to see how much he cared and loved making that shot. The golf is really, really good, and they proved that when 3 of the top 6 at Augusta were LIV players, this is good and fun Golf at LIV. Watch it.
What was proven at Augusta is that SOME LIV players are good. Overall, the league is garbage.
@@leeschaeffer3209Most of the top 5 were LIV players. PGA has nothing worth watching anymore.
Liv definitely has Aussies to thank for last weekend and yeah marathons are addictive, I love it
Local Adelaide boy here, the event hyped up the entire state, golf courses were flooded for the week and 40% of tickets were sold from interstate or overseas visitors. Liv brought so much energy and entertainment. All the players loved it, Phil’s thumb fell off and smiles all around. There was such a great mix of young and old fans that coloured the fairways and it brought such a friendly environment. I wish PGA and Liv could come together and figure something out, why can’t Liv be the ‘overseas’ tournament, going across the globe, with large prize money bringing in the best players. And then keep your traditional PGA style courses and traditions.
Couldn't agree more chaps on the entry to golf. Here in Oz, it's even more accessible. So many public courses for $40 for 18 holes.
I went to Liv golf as well. I paid $450 to be in the Shark Shack at the watering hole on the Sunday, but I also spent a few hours walking around seeing different groups and holes.
One thing that really impressed me was the interaction between the pro's and the crowd. Missed puts were felt by all, pro's turning to crowds, the crowd on the second green to see Cam and Phil finish their round while the rest were on the 18th. The Aussie crowds are always respectful, and I think the players fed off that.
Honestly, the golf was phenomenal, and the course was insane. You get the feeling that the players are more relaxed than PGA players look. Maybe it's because of the fact they have a guaranteed income, but I think the fact they are playing quite amazing golf at the moment (witnessed by the proportion of them in the top 30 in the Masters) could be attributed to them actually enjoying their golf now.
LIV is awesome. It truly is an experience made for the fans. I went to the Portland event last year by myself and had a blast. Everyone there was having a good time and being able to interact, somewhat, with the players and get super close was amazing. I was hoping they'd come back to the PNW this season but sadly they didn't. I'm going to try to make it down to Miami for the final Team event tho.
As far as the structure of the tournament goes, I think it's a really good model to build off of. I like the shotgun starts cuz it ensures that everyone is playing in the same conditions and that the round is just that, a round. I don't have to be there literally all day if I want to see all the golf. I really like the team aspect too. It just adds another level of excitement to watch. I get that's not for everyone but as the Machine said when being interviewed by Troy, "this isn't your grandfathers golf. In fact, he'll probably hate it" and that's true. Most ppl that I've seen that don't like it are the 'older' generation that like to think of themselves as golf purists. Those guys are dumb. This is golf for a newer generation and there is a need for that. Ever since Happy Gilmore came out I was wanting a golf event to be like that with the crowd making noise.
Oh and one final thing to all those that say its just an exhibition. Shut up. It's not. It's a real tournament that's in it's infancy and making strides. The players themselves love it and say it's actually more nerve racking BECAUSE of the amount of money on the line. And for Cam Smith to say after his round on Friday that it was the most nervous he's EVER BEEN is saying something. And he had to come from behind to win the Open last year. Just sayin.
LIV did a great job in Adelaide. Yes, it's different and that's OK. But they sure had people excited. I think the big problem is in how the PGA Tour shut out players. Fans love Phil for sure and many others on LIV. The PGA Tour lost its luster because now only the majors have the best players in the world playing. Hopefully the OWGR system will change to recognize LIV events or majors will adjust their entry criteria so that decent LIV players don't lose their exemption potentials. The Masters showed that the PGA Tour and LIV players can co-exist easily. They have cemented their place as the top tier of golf, while the Players Championship has lost its place as the 5th major. The Players used to invite players from other tours, but not LIV this year. Even Jon Rahm said that it was not right that the defender could not play ... and to take his parking spot was petty. I wonder are portraits of past champs are still hanging at the clubhouse? Adelaide may have been a turning point. We'll see what the atmosphere in Singapore is this week, but it's clear the team aspect has an impact for LIV players.
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@@joshramirez7
Lol to your lol mate
He’s exactly right
Spot on mate
Certainly agree that LIV should get OWGR points to whatever degree no cut/54 holes events are assessed. However to say that the problem is that PGA has shut out the (LIV) players is likely a bit strong. How many events would the LIV players actually play on the PGA when their first priority would be to the LIV 14 events, given the huge signing bonus they have received? Just recall that most of them said that one of the advantages of LIV was to play less and be home more. So it's doubtful that many would play on the PGA, unless of course they were kidding about playing less.
I Agree, LIV needs a signature event, if indeed the one in Australia is it, so be it. On another note, have you guys ever reached out to do a break 75 or something to that affect with Ian Poulter, think that would a ton of fun, so much personality and he has done very well for himself.
They should have a LIV event and then boost up the Aust. Open to rival a major. All LIV players plus open world wide qualifying. F the PGAT. Make the purse so high. Euros will have no choice but to enter.🤣
In Ireland we call it home ec not food tech
Listened to this on my way to my first golf lesson!
I think the question about golf becoming more expensive and inaccessible is valid. In my area, due to the boost in popularity since covid, the courses have raised their prices and are still booked up.
And the club price increases has effected used club prices as well. Everything is more expensive since before covid.
There’s room for the traditional golf and room for a fresh more lively golf 👍 and yes I do like watching Liv golf, it’s a refreshing change
Agree with Rick that LIV’s brand is now set with the party like atmosphere, but just to be clear it was not all about the beers and shoeys.
It also was definitely not all about the party but also about the golf. It was very family friendly, event full of golfing nuts who were there to see some of the best golfers in the world finally play a decent tour in the Southern Hemisphere. I’ve been to golfing events all over the world, and the Adelaide event completely exceeded expectations as one of the best I’ve attended.
Proof that passion for golf exists outside of the US market.
Guy
I think what you saw was their perfect storm- what theyve been after the entire time. One key elemet was their big time players playing well and playng well early. The hsot gun start build exciement. I think also the team element is great as you can see the players not mailing it in if they cant win the tourney. Right now Pat Perez is the best money player on the planet as it seems no one can shoot scores when needed like he can. The Tulsa event will be interesting.
Playing with better golfers is a great challenge but I tried to keep up with a scratch handicap player for 20 years and my handicap was around 20-22.
I went and figured out my game and I am now off 13. I don't hit nearly as long as he does but I am improving on my short game.
Figure out your own game.
Golf is definitely more accessible today compared to when I started in the 1960's. I'm glad the Frisbee golf and huge hole golf never took off. We have Top Golf for that. There are also so many tee time deals and golf packages available.
Guy is spot on about how difficult it is, I’m hitting the ball better than when I started again 2 years ago but my scores are not significantly better
Good analogy would be how you market snooker compared to pool. 2 very similar products but very different look and feel. Space for both
Hey guys just letting you know I was at liv Adelaide. I play golf and I’d like to say that all the hole’s were not like the 12th, and there was fantastic mellow holes and heaps of golfers eg golf fans at other holes the quality of the players and golfing play was excellent. Please don’t judge the whole course and event on the 12th hole which was amazing, but all over the course had some fantastic Golf getting played on the other holes , by some of the best golfers in the world. It was just a fantastic event. If you wanted to hang at for example the 11 th 10 th 17 tee box you could. Plenty of room everywhere on the course. Cheers Mick
Just to add you could pop from tee box to green and catch it all, and the shot gun starts means you catch nearly all 48 players. I could go on but it was just epic. To see Phil, Bryson, Brooks, Patrick Cameron, so many players in one day it was just amazing. Feverish situation 🏌️♂️🍻
Ps I’m off to Singapore this weekend, going to be all time now I know what to expect. 🏌️♂️✈️