That was pretty funny hearing it out loud. Like if the Gundam was actually on Side 3, Zeon would celebrate Christmas early as the Federation just handed them their ticket to winning the war. Think of all the advancements in MS technology they’ll make if they have the Gundam in their possession. Char will get one painted red with all the limiters taken off. Rambal Ral may get one painted blue. And the third one will be used to study and reverse engineer its weapons. Basically speeding up the process of making the Gelgoog or at least a Zaku that can use beam rifles. Whatever comes out will be given to the Black Tri-Stars.
@@TheHiddenBoss I think that one of the What Ifs in Ghiran's Greed is What if Zeon captured the Gundam? I haven't played the games myself because I just simply haven't had the means to do so, but I remember there being a Zeon Gundam on the fandom wiki. There is also a Casval Gundam where Amuro dies and Char defects to take his place and yes, this means we get a Red Gundam. Perhaps a future video can go into the "What ifs" of the games, but for now I am just going to rewatch the lore videos and look up random scenes from various series.
I've been saying this for years. They could also address interesting tidbits of lore (like Rau and Mu's childhood) and adapt manga stories like G-Unit without an OVA.
I wanna see a more Halo Legends style anthology. Just, short stories of various aces or pilots or ships or even civilians during the OYW, maybe with another series of a later conflict as well. We SORT of got this with Gundam Evolve, but only sort of. But yeah. Short stories that don't really impact the canon in seriously messed up ways(We're gonna ignore Spartan 1337 for this one), but that sort of work to flesh out the universe a bit.
Char Hyakushiki's beam-resistant coating armor couldn't even last in the last zeta fight, but his plot armor saved him adrift in space somehow. Amazing!
I actually like the canon/non canon controversy about the full armor gundam.. it perfectly represents the different interest groups in the EF.. so it might have been build and completet by one division going around the back of some big shot or something alike
Or, alternatively, the incomplete Full Armor Gundam and/or it's blueprints could have somehow fallen into the hands of a Mercenary or other militarized organization (such as through theft) that then had the machine fully completed, and possibly even modified to maintain it's improved armor and firepower without the loss of speed and agility, and they then fielded it at their "Ace" unit that was used by their commander and/or most skilled pilot. And because the EF would have found a lapse in security like the loss of the FA Gundam humiliating, they could have completely disavowed any knowledge or involvement with it's development and construction, while also wanting to find and destroy the unit to add credence to their lie. Hell, that might even make for an entertaining kind of story in Gundam, where the "protagonists" may not be entirely morally-upstanding, and may even have fluctuating loyalties (like with Mercenaries, their loyalties would shift with whomever was employing them at that particular moment, so that the enemies faced by the FA Gundam in one battle could end up being the FA Gundam's *allies* in the next). Or maybe even have the Mercenary outfit actually *be* the most morally-upstanding people in the setting. I know Tekkadan could technically be considered a mercenary organization, but I would argue that they actually *aren't* (or, if they are, they do not remain as such for very long, since they become firmly allied with Teiwaz fairly early on, and they remain so for the entire run of the show).
For alternate universe throw my hat in for the archangel, i really liked how that ship had a tactical prescense on the battlefield and the beam cloud defense
@@GPowtlaw2 I agree, the Archangel-Class Carriers were pretty damn potent for a ship. The Lohengrins alone would be great, but then you throw in the Anti-Beam Cloud...
Given all this it means that if Gene didn't jump the gun on Side 7, the White Base MIGHT have had a "gundam team" of sorts during the One Year War at some point.
Also Kelly Layzner's pet project didn't seem to be exactly top secret. His reaction to Kou's intrusion seemed to be less "oh crap this is big trouble" and more "get out of my stuff" At the very least Kou didn't find it extraordinary that he had a full sized mobile armor in the garage
Even if they solve the engine problem (which looked awfully like a WW2 era problem that's already solved), it probably won't be too much better then ZakuII in ground combat, likely will just result in more Dom being produced.
Only amuro rx-78, the other such as full armor gundam could be considered as non canon, while gundam 04 and 05 join the battle of aboa qu on what if 05 able to safe 04 from weapon malfunction story route
It's funny, finding out exactly how many Gundams fought in the OYW. It reminds me a lot of how Star Wars is, there are things that are "canon" things that are semi-canon, and then non-canon. And I thought Gundam would be the easier of the two lol. I just found your channel recently. You've helped revive my interest in Gundam, along with a computer company (Asus) that's doing their parts x Gundam lol. Thanks for all the awesome info.
I love how the original series showed a natural evolution of Gundams from RX78 to MKII, Zeta and finally ZZ. And then other writers are like: Nope, before Zeta, there were actually a few dozen ultra secret and super advanced Gundams that we never saw or heard about in Zeta. Like come on. Too much retconning. It's like saying that between WWI tanks and WWII tanks, we actually had a few ultra secret Abrams or t90's see some conflict, only to then transition into WWI era tanks.
Well, we DO see advanced shit pop up IRL for either single prototype or ultra limited production stuff only to be replaced by inferior versions later on. It happens because more often than not prototype advanced shit is hella expensive, fragile, or not feasible to mass produce. Take something like the G11 for example. Ultra futuristic, lightweight, blistering fire rate, superior caseless ammo, compact. But ridiculously internally complex, and costly to make- that’s why modern carbines, while not more “advanced” than it, are being chosen over something like that. But I do know what you’re getting at, and I do somewhat agree.
If I remember correctly, I read the marine gundam in a manga about brothers using their acguys to cross the desert to regroup with the remaining zeon forces back to the California base
Is there an in-universe explanation why the Minovsky Fusion Reactor in early MS seem to go nuclear? 'Cause real-life nuclear reactors, even fission ones, don't actually "go nuclear" when damaged or maybe it's because of Minovsky particle shenanigans
That would be because they are Fusion reactors. Uncontrolled Fusion is far more explosive than Fission. What we have in real life is Fission and it is used to heat water up into steam to turn turbines, by Uranium 235 being struck by Neutrons and breaking down into two lighter elements some neutrons and releasing energy in the form of heat. So when a Nuclear reaction goes out of control in those kinds of plants. They tend to meltdown, which does cause an explosion of steam from the the rapid expansion of heat in the water that the Uranium fuel rods are kept in to try to control the reaction. Where as Fusion combines 2 hydrogen atoms into helium and releases GIGANTIC amounts of energy that usually always results in explosions. Unless controlled. Think The sun. The sun is just hundreds of millions of fusion bomb explosions kept in check by gravity. And these reactions can generate massive amounts of heat in the millions of degrees kelvin. Which is why when Mobile suit Reactors are damaged it destabilized the delicate balance in the reactor and causes the fusion reaction to instantly rage out of control and Kaboom.
In real life we actually do not have any Fusion reactors if we did it would be monumental and solve the worlds energy needs and end pollution for good.
I just realized 2 worker units not mentioned. One is in the UC timeline during 08th MS team. During Michel and Eledor's escape. They hijacked what appeared to be a crane with a zaku II head. It appeared like its primary function was for excavation of mobile suits from the ground and construction purposes. The 2nd was during age with the construction ms with the heat spade and the heat pick axe.
You can think of Thunderbolt as a very close alternate universe to UC. Like the basic premise is valid in the UC timeline, but the details are slightly different.
Bro the Mobile Suit in gundam Thunderbolt are ridiculously very advanced for it's era,even the full armor gundam TB are highly advanced compared to the RX-78-2 gundam
If I remembered correctly, in one chapter of the manga (roughly episode 3 of anime) there's a group of EFSF pilots that were sending to stationed at Beehive (Moore Brotherhood flagship) which made up of childrens and teenagers and in same chapter there's a mentioning that there is a teenager or a 16 years old kid (I can't remembered what is the actual lines) who piloted a Gundam which is directly reference to Amuro Ray, the protagonist of the original Gundam. This easter egg/reference are only in manga and not in the anime.
And maybe even the Anf as the HRL sold that to pretty much anyone. So some may have been bought by regular civilians. Speaking of which, I do think there is that infographic of the different Anf paintjobs that are used by the different users of the machine including a civilian construction version.
Here's a question that came to me when I saw them flying overhead earlier today: Did the Federation or Zeon (or any major faction from the other timelines) have an MS squadron akin to the US Navy's Blue Angel Squadron?
It wouldn't surprise me, they likely did. Or, in the case of Zeon, they probably milked the reputations of their top Aces like Char & Johnny Ridden to enhance their efforts to recruit more troops.
While I won't deny the idea of a MS Aerobatic Demonstration team being a possibility in any of the stories or time lines, I don't think they would've. Part of the purpose of Aerobatic teams like the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds are to show how amazing their planes really are, and inspire awe in the crowd while sparking patriotic pride and a possibility of them enlisting, Mobile Suits are already awe inspiring even when standing still because of the scale of raw power they're capable of, plus the news coverage they get when they're fighting near a Colony side, and their major influence on warfare. In all honesty, you really don't need to paint up a MS and pilot it about in a big triangle formation, everyone already knows the shock and aw of a MS unit
@@blubberyoyster4 That's a fair point. Now that I think about it, I'm sure all one would need to do with an MS is just have it stand somewhere and look cool. Like those GINN at the start of SEED Destiny that had the ornate trimming and rifles made of wood.
@@bishopharroo2378 Yeah that Particular Ceremonial Ginn is probably the closest thing to a Military Demonstration Team you'll find, but they're more like the US Marines Rifle/Saber drill team rather than a Aircraft Aerobatic team like the Blue Angels
The closest we got to this was the GINN Ceremonial Types used by ZAFT. My own personal head canon is that they are not just used in parades and greeting VIPs like they are shown doing in Destiny, but are used as honor guard like units around the Supreme Council Building and that of the residence of the Supreme Council Chairman.
RX78-3 was the distinctive variation for the units with coating. Also, on to the civilian MS, funny thing about civilian MS market is that AE made it possible for them to produce parts to supply the civilian market to the point that ZEON remnants were able to produce new MS from “Federation” parts, such as a certain gelegoog.
One thing I wondered why didn't zeon field their non beam compatible suits with shotguns in larger numbers when its proven to be devastating to gundarium armor and continued to penetrate armor of suits decades more advanced than the weapon itself.
@@lokix19azxc13 I know. But if a weapon is proven less and less effective they should of quickly phased out the machine guns and kept developing the shotguns further.
thanks for updating the question of civilian owned Mobile Suit. regarding to your closing note about the differences between civilians and non civilians is easy. Civilians make a living due to work in non combatant activities. It doesn't make a change if you call yourself "personal protection service" or "mercenary" or "army" or "pirate", if you make a living in a way that includes combat, you are not a civilian.
I remember reading back in the day that 7 RX-78-1 units were initially built, with 3 being upgraded to 78-2, traveling to side 7, and only one unit surviving with the others almost entirely lost aside from a few parts that made it on the White Base before they escaped. Of the remaining 4, the units created were the Heavy Gundam (modified from the first FA test type), the G04 and G05, and the Mudrock, with the Alex being a completely new machine created without using the original 7. But if there were 8, that does give an option for the RX-78FA for Thunderbolt. RX-78-7 was NOT deployed during the OYW, first being deployed in 0081 (Senki was created as a canon entry for the 30th anniversary of Gundam). As for Civilian MS, it's worth pointing to the colony of Fardain in Gundam AGE, where we also see a really cool civilian MS with a heat shovel and pickaxe. Technically, all of the machines in Fardain were considered civilian... Okay, AGE was just absolutely PACKED with civilian suits.
Now if they had brought all those Gundams together in a unified fighting force a Gundam... wing if you will, they could have saved a lot of GM's and Sandwich meat.
In my own personal head Canon there were three RX-78-1s and three RX-78-2s. The -1 models were stripped ground use units for testing that lacked the extra thrusters and equipment for space use. They stayed on Earth and were used to develope a dedicated limited production Gundam to counter Zeon ground-use MS, the RX-79[G]. When Zeon forces were defeated on Earth, focus shifted to space and sending as many ships and RGM-79s from Jaburo as possible. While the 78-1s were for ground use they still had better generators and equipment than your average GM so they were sent up to space as well to test the Full Armor equipment which had enough thrusters to stay competitive in space. Meanwhile the three RX-78-2s were completed multipurpose models sent to Side 7 for space testing, 2 were heavily damaged and shipped of to be rebuilt as the upgraded RX-78-3 and the remaining intact unit was used by Amuro. As for the RX-78-8, I've never seen anything on it, assume it's the NT-1 by a different name.
@@robertdrexel2043 i dont know much about the RX-78-7 besides the fact that it wasnt officially completed until after the war ended. Given its heavy firepower and booster packs you could assume it was designed for the final battles of the war when the EFSF would be staging large scale seiges on Zeon asteroid fortresses and home colonies where a heavy MS acted like a high speed battleship to punch through enemy lines and duke it out with Zeek mobile armors.
Ever notice in the old anime they all had beam pistols and rifles as normal weapons for ground troops but any later shows everyone is using ballistic weapons?
So if the Slave Wraith and Gundam Pixy are not cannon then the whole story of how Fred Reber switches machines with Doug Schneid, inheriting the Efreet (later the Efreet Schneid) doesn’t explain why Fred is piloting the Efreet Schnied in Gundam unicorn? Also if the Gelgoog that’s found and later restored to be used as part of the AEUG counts, then what about how Barbatos and Vual were discovered and then later restored, do those count?
maybe if the gundam frames were not armed with guns they could count as a civilian mobile suit provided an actual civilian owns it Barbo and Vual are both owned by pmc's
Black Chandelier Mirage it says that he’s the pilot in the Manuel and that the heat darts were designed for Fred Reber’s cause of tendency to throwing the beam daggers of the pixy
19:30 what came first: the Spinner Rodi or Man Rodi? The spinner looks more general use, but the Man was noted to having a frame similar to the Gundams, and were even able to use the Alaya system.
Again there is the Mobile Worker Units used in Gundam Wing at the Winner Family Resource Satellite. I don't know if they are the same already mentioned Worker Leos but they appear I believe only once in the entire series. Let's see if I can find them in the series. Ah Ha! Found them. Episode 21 of Wing Grief Stricken Quatre. They appear at 10:56 mark. They are basically a sort of a set of Mobile Suit-like legs with an exposed cockpit above that then with some tools and such in arm-like attachments on the side. There is a good Black and White Lineart for these units over at the Gundam Wing page on MAHQ. Also, speaking of Gundam Wing we also have the Maganac Mobile Suits, but I think these fall under your mentioned category in this video.
What is the deal with the Windam? Some sources say it has Variable Phase Shift armor while others says unknown, I am fairly sure we saw in Seed Destiny some of them activate it... But then again we see wrecked ones still have their colour's so my theory is that the Earth Alliance is painting them to trick ZAFT due to their massive losses early on in the war to cut production time/cost to replace their losses? 🤔
In regards to MSV-R there was also the full armor type-b, a further development of the full armor plan for use on the G3. The full armor ground type, a variation of the full armor for use on earth. And the gunner gundam, a gundam variant that specialises in long range sniping. Of these three though only the type-b might have existed.
Okay, the GP02 was probably the worst example since he acquired it in the most illegal of way. Sneaking into a base and taking it from the very hanger. The pirates in IBO search old battlefields and the black market for their suits. They aren't crazy and blindly devoted to an ideology to steal from Gjallarhorn.
@ 14:20 G Gundam had both Mobile Fighters and Mobile Suits, the main difference seeming to be that mobile suits were for "military" applications, but with the Gundam Fight being the key factor for their peace among the colonies and essentially functioning as their elections, 'suits probably see less direct funding and attention and just get whatever's left over from developing the nation's latest Gundam Fight entry machine, probably in terms of technologies too.
is the astray outframe considered as one? its used by jess rabble who is a journalist, it's "gun" is one big ass camera, and it has a backpack that is literally a camper.
You should do a What If about characters from various mobile suit series ending up inside mobile suits from different series... Such as if Amuro Ray ended up in the Gundam Wing universe somehow.
If you think about it, the majority of protagonist Gundam units, as many protagonists start as civilians, as well as any undelivered development units, as they remain with the companies that developed them
I still maintain that all of the gundams in 00 ARE technically civilian owned mobile suits. Celestial being is a private militia which means they are still completely civilian in every legal sense.
Personally i believe that there are roughly 1000 Gundams deployed during the OYW. This includes the Thunderbolt FA Gundam. Reasoning for that is pretty simple, it doesn't conflict with much of the original timeline and we see the One Year War from a trade route defense force from both sides and because there are a decent amount of Thunderbolt sector GMs made that goes to a couple hundred to a thousand, its same to assume that the EFF didn't have much time to refit and repaint the Thunderbolt GMs to be the standard RGM GM load out, they just used them as is. The Thunderbolt Gundam is a RX-78-1 unit with armor and weapons meant for the Thunderbolt sector as a sledgehammer. In fact there may have been 1 to 12 RX 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7s deployed, with the G3 of white base being the magnetic coating test bed along side the Blue Destiny units. (Which they must have added that to the BD units in hopes of getting better performance and less stress on the joints with EXAM). RX-78-1 being much more mass produced as it was the most simplistic outside of the RX-78-2, all they would need to do is give the data and improved joints for the units and call it a day. The FA-78s, there might have been 9 units built and listed as just simulations and unsuited for combat due to there being some Zeon spies looking to get any new development data of EFF mobile suit for Zeonic to better equip and better counter, so labeling it as a flop and a pipe dream that was ultimately cancelled would lead the project to have a secret limited production run to help the force. The 8th unit may have existed but was destroyed when Amuro used the super napalm to destroy all components of the V projects, like Gundam parts that they simply can not use or bring with them as they were about to depart from Side 7. The 8th unit may have been the perfected RX-78-2 Tim Ray had dreamed about to help end the war as it was to be assembled and built in secrecy onboard White Base. RX-78NT1 ALEX, was the last and first EFF Gundam to ever be built and use a 360 panoramic monitor linear seat meant for NewTypes of thw OYW.
If I am not mistaken there's only 1 RX-78-6 unit which was destroyed in Zeonic Front against the Midnight Fenrir Team. The RX-78-7 was completed after the war had ended and was being mothballed for a while, but was rushed to completion when the EFF needed something for a spearhead. RX-78-8 was mothballed like 7, but was finally used for parts of the 7th. Look at a comment above.
@@thomas_mafty_haha i was falling asleep when i wrote this, but it can be explained by making the RX-78-1s the ones with a production run that's higher than the normal 1 to 12 units produced to make it near 1000
The Teiwaz frame based units like the Hyakuren,Hyakuri and Hekija from Iron Blooded Orphans are all technically civilian made units. Teiwaz is technically criminal but are a merchant conglomerate styled after the Yakuza. The Shiden also would count for this. Hexa based frames like the Gilda and Hugo also were civilian units. Not as many Hexa frames survived the Calamity War compared to the Rodi units however as Hexa were built for speed over armour and staying power.
So we just gonna forget Gundam X. I remember some civilians using almost any mobile suits they could find. One example being the Daughtress Tank that was used by Witz Sou’s family.
he kinda touched that point the past video, but then again, some MS are owned by Mercenaries and Outlaws, who dont fit the traditional an legal meaning he was pursuing: Someone like you and me who can go to a store, and buy a MS for private use, considering local laws and stuff.
Coming from Mark Simmons ref, 8 RX-78-1s, 3 RX-78-2's were madded from the 8 RX-78-1's, 1 RX-78-3 was modded from 1 of the 3 RX-78-2's, the RX-78-NT1 was modded from 1 RX-78-1. RX-78-1 8 to ( 4 ) RX-78-2 ( 2 ) RX-78-3 ( 1 ) RX-78-NT1 ( 1 )
Hi Kakarot! Can you make video about HARO history, development & it's role in each series. That roundy boi is not only a mascot but can be a support unit too, I love Lockon's Haro!
Pretty sure The Astray was a Civilian mobile suit during the seed timeline. Originally developed by ORB during the main seed timeline, there are versions s available to seemingly anybody who can afford them during seed astray, which are either owned by a single person/pilot or a pmc style organisation such as Serpentail (Gai Murakumo’s Blue-frame)
One tiny error: With the introduction of the new "Blue Destiny" Manga series, Slaive Wraith is now an official Canon unit. Also, of the planned 8 RX-78s(yes, PLANNED), only 6 were completed and rolled out(even though it was in an emergency for the Mudrock and RX-78-2), with, like you said, the 7th having it's mainframe completed by the end of the war, and was only fully completed post-war during the Zeon Remnant sweep operations on earth(so it's already a stretch to count the 7th Gundam as active DURING the OYW). As for the RX-78-8? Well, apparently it got scrapped once the war was over. Allegedly, it was to share the same design and concept as the 7th, but having a different loadout(sharing the "brothers" concept of the G04 and G05), but as they barely started construction on the frame, the war ended, and originally, both the 7th and 8th got mothballed, until they(the EFF/EFGF) needed a new machine for their sweep operations, that the 7th was rushed into completion(it's armor was already manufactured, which was why work on the 8th had begun), and the still half assembled 8th was (allegedly) turned into spare parts for the 7th.
Thomas Tsui yup, they did. Book 7. Just like in the game, BD got mistaken for the Pale Rider, and Slave Wraith engaged, up until the misunderstanding got sorted out.(context: back in Jaburo, when Slave Wraith was engaged with Marchosias, the Pale Rider intervened, and started attacking both sides. Needless to say, Travis was still pretty pissed about that.)
IBO Gekkou also has the Labrysy, modified Man Rodis used by Gianmarco Salerno's guys as escort for cargo ships -and also sometimes pirates, but that's not their design purpose- There's also Ollerus with their Graze Stachels, who are on paper Gjallarhorn's internal police force, but operate in ways that are toeing the line to a PMC quite a few times
I dont think they count. Oz knew about operation meteor, so there was a network behind them originally. Also I m pretty sure the pilots in Wing broke a lot of laws.
As a fan of both Gundam and Macross I thought I'd throw my two cents in on this the matter of Macross Canon . After watching the older Macross series myself, my headcanon is that do you remember love is a little bit more official than the TV series; based on the design of Exedol (think I spelled that right), who is pretty much just seen as a giant disembodied head in the movie and in the sequel Macross 7. Now, when Shoji kawamori was asked about some differences of the various series of the Macross universe, I kind of get a chuckle now about his response, which in a meta way covers any and everything. His answer was that you're not actually watching the events as they unfold, you're watching programs retelling of past events as if you were in the Macross universe. As a result, differences could be seen as the show creators' artistic license when they were making them.
I'm pretty sure one of the old zeon aquatic MS from the Tigerbaum episode was an old Juagg and I think there was an Acguy and maybe even an Agguy as well.
Private security firms, private military, and pirates are considered combatants and not civilian organizations. Civi's use of military tech removes the weapons, ammunition, and anything that could be used against the actual military present at the time. If these mobile suits had functioning targeting systems, weapons, and ammo then they are considered combatants. Once those features are removed, then they are considered civilian use. It is the same way that American police relinquish old police cars to civilian buyers. They remove any trace of police tags, decals, and anything related to police and their department before selling it to civilian owners. Now if the person was a scrapper, then I can see a militarized damaged unit being repaired for civilian use but those scrappers may have contracts with military officials which prevents them from claiming the mobile suit as their own until the military can gut the suit for spare parts.
I'm not sure of some of the suits mentioned. But I do have to say that just because a machine maybe a worker unit doesn't necessarily mean it is civilian. Militaries tend to modify machines into engineering vehicles. I'm sighting the Leo as I'm not sure if it was truly civilian, but could be wrong. Other suits could fall in to the same category though.
You forget about some civilian Mobile suits from gundamOO series even tho they had guns mounted on them. And Gundam savior since that piolet was a civilian
I would love to hear your thoughts on why Zeon put so much effort into aquatic mobile suits when they were basically a space based nation. And also, what were the best and worst aquatic MS.
My best guess is that they were easy to hide on Earth. The Federation wasn't able to really track them very well underwater, they could be setup the mobile suits from anywhere near water and have them deploy to new areas pretty much unseen. Then they could be used for hit and run raids or as an ambush unit to catch the Federation off-guard and quickly retreat where the Federation struggled to follow. I guess the question there is why the Federation didn't have better deep sea equipment sooner. Though in real life some people say we know more about Space than we do our own Oceans still.
Actually, in the (Origin) cannon universe, the Heavy Gundam was never a later model RX-79 but a first run RX-78-1 unit that was upgraded into the RX-78-1 [FSD] which was created from a Rx-78-1[N] Gundam local type. also, I would say thunderbolt would be cannon now.
Despite being forbidden to equip weapons, the Raysta could realistically do so if it was necessary; the C. E.`s Junk Guild should be allowed to do so strictly for defensive purposes (example)
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@2:02 shipped to side 3!? Damn incompetent feddies and transport units - shipping right into the heart of zeon, they should have went with amazon
Damn, totally missed that one in editing.
Side 7*
@@kakarot197 lol its all good that was quite a massive list across multiple timelines excellent work!
That was pretty funny hearing it out loud. Like if the Gundam was actually on Side 3, Zeon would celebrate Christmas early as the Federation just handed them their ticket to winning the war. Think of all the advancements in MS technology they’ll make if they have the Gundam in their possession. Char will get one painted red with all the limiters taken off. Rambal Ral may get one painted blue. And the third one will be used to study and reverse engineer its weapons. Basically speeding up the process of making the Gelgoog or at least a Zaku that can use beam rifles. Whatever comes out will be given to the Black Tri-Stars.
@@TheHiddenBoss I think that one of the What Ifs in Ghiran's Greed is What if Zeon captured the Gundam? I haven't played the games myself because I just simply haven't had the means to do so, but I remember there being a Zeon Gundam on the fandom wiki. There is also a Casval Gundam where Amuro dies and Char defects to take his place and yes, this means we get a Red Gundam.
Perhaps a future video can go into the "What ifs" of the games, but for now I am just going to rewatch the lore videos and look up random scenes from various series.
Caught that too and was like, huh?
You know what would be cool?
A Star Wars the Clone Wars anthology type show, using MSV tales.
Igloo was kinda like that, but I heartily agree with you - an MSV-based anthology series would be rad.
I've been saying this for years. They could also address interesting tidbits of lore (like Rau and Mu's childhood) and adapt manga stories like G-Unit without an OVA.
Just please don't get Disney too involved in it.
I wanna see a more Halo Legends style anthology. Just, short stories of various aces or pilots or ships or even civilians during the OYW, maybe with another series of a later conflict as well.
We SORT of got this with Gundam Evolve, but only sort of. But yeah. Short stories that don't really impact the canon in seriously messed up ways(We're gonna ignore Spartan 1337 for this one), but that sort of work to flesh out the universe a bit.
How did Char survive the events of Zeta being pretty much a drift in space and how did he get back to Zeon then become their leader?
@@maphlas7428 yeah, pretty much
@@maphlas7428 *because He is A CHAR
Because he is 3 times faster!
Char Hyakushiki's beam-resistant coating armor couldn't even last in the last zeta fight, but his plot armor saved him adrift in space somehow. Amazing!
He wasn't necessarily adrift in space. He may have taken a shuttle or an unmanned Mobile Suit.
I actually like the canon/non canon controversy about the full armor gundam.. it perfectly represents the different interest groups in the EF.. so it might have been build and completet by one division going around the back of some big shot or something alike
Or, alternatively, the incomplete Full Armor Gundam and/or it's blueprints could have somehow fallen into the hands of a Mercenary or other militarized organization (such as through theft) that then had the machine fully completed, and possibly even modified to maintain it's improved armor and firepower without the loss of speed and agility, and they then fielded it at their "Ace" unit that was used by their commander and/or most skilled pilot. And because the EF would have found a lapse in security like the loss of the FA Gundam humiliating, they could have completely disavowed any knowledge or involvement with it's development and construction, while also wanting to find and destroy the unit to add credence to their lie.
Hell, that might even make for an entertaining kind of story in Gundam, where the "protagonists" may not be entirely morally-upstanding, and may even have fluctuating loyalties (like with Mercenaries, their loyalties would shift with whomever was employing them at that particular moment, so that the enemies faced by the FA Gundam in one battle could end up being the FA Gundam's *allies* in the next). Or maybe even have the Mercenary outfit actually *be* the most morally-upstanding people in the setting. I know Tekkadan could technically be considered a mercenary organization, but I would argue that they actually *aren't* (or, if they are, they do not remain as such for very long, since they become firmly allied with Teiwaz fairly early on, and they remain so for the entire run of the show).
Here's a list idea: Top 5 Main Character Ships e.g. Ptolemaios, Archangel, White Base etc.
1. White Base
2. Argama
3. Ra Cailum
4. Raddish
5. Flying Dutchman
For alternate universe throw my hat in for the archangel, i really liked how that ship had a tactical prescense on the battlefield and the beam cloud defense
@@GPowtlaw2 I agree, the Archangel-Class Carriers were pretty damn potent for a ship.
The Lohengrins alone would be great, but then you throw in the Anti-Beam Cloud...
Hm, would the Peacemillion count...? That thing was *huge*
@@Sierlea peacemillion is a *WIDEBOI*
Given all this it means that if Gene didn't jump the gun on Side 7, the White Base MIGHT have had a "gundam team" of sorts during the One Year War at some point.
Also Kelly Layzner's pet project didn't seem to be exactly top secret. His reaction to Kou's intrusion seemed to be less "oh crap this is big trouble" and more "get out of my stuff"
At the very least Kou didn't find it extraordinary that he had a full sized mobile armor in the garage
the series with the highest amount of civilian MS
the builders universe
All the build universes are "meta" series. Its not a primary source for mobile suits so it really doesn't count. Much like the SD series Sengoku etc.
Gunpla are models, not actual mobile suits.
I don't really see as scale modeled versions of mechanical dolls as a mobile suit
What would happen if the Zudah became zeons 1st mass produced mobile suit instead of the Zaku 1?
With their engineering problems and that faulty engine, not long.
That would be nice what if
@@SuperFeatherYoshi zudah 2 would be cool though
Some sort of Kamikazee pilot program might also be made alongside it's deployment
Even if they solve the engine problem (which looked awfully like a WW2 era problem that's already solved), it probably won't be too much better then ZakuII in ground combat, likely will just result in more Dom being produced.
Question: how many Gundam's participated in the Battle of Abaoa Qu?
Only amuro rx-78, the other such as full armor gundam could be considered as non canon, while gundam 04 and 05 join the battle of aboa qu on what if 05 able to safe 04 from weapon malfunction story route
Wow thank you for using my comment on the video I'm glad I could contribute to the video
I just wanted to point out how cool you are for reading people's comments, then going back over what you missed in your previous video
I can't believe you caught mine!
For a video idea, how about ships? Getting a rundown on stuff like the Salamis-Class and such would be pretty nice!
It's funny, finding out exactly how many Gundams fought in the OYW. It reminds me a lot of how Star Wars is, there are things that are "canon" things that are semi-canon, and then non-canon. And I thought Gundam would be the easier of the two lol. I just found your channel recently. You've helped revive my interest in Gundam, along with a computer company (Asus) that's doing their parts x Gundam lol. Thanks for all the awesome info.
I love how the original series showed a natural evolution of Gundams from RX78 to MKII, Zeta and finally ZZ. And then other writers are like: Nope, before Zeta, there were actually a few dozen ultra secret and super advanced Gundams that we never saw or heard about in Zeta. Like come on. Too much retconning. It's like saying that between WWI tanks and WWII tanks, we actually had a few ultra secret Abrams or t90's see some conflict, only to then transition into WWI era tanks.
Well, we DO see advanced shit pop up IRL for either single prototype or ultra limited production stuff only to be replaced by inferior versions later on. It happens because more often than not prototype advanced shit is hella expensive, fragile, or not feasible to mass produce. Take something like the G11 for example. Ultra futuristic, lightweight, blistering fire rate, superior caseless ammo, compact. But ridiculously internally complex, and costly to make- that’s why modern carbines, while not more “advanced” than it, are being chosen over something like that.
But I do know what you’re getting at, and I do somewhat agree.
If I remember correctly, I read the marine gundam in a manga about brothers using their acguys to cross the desert to regroup with the remaining zeon forces back to the California base
@Esteban Capulin yeah that one
Mobile Suit Gundam - Acguy: 2250 Miles Across North America
I think it’d be fun to hear you breakdown some of the more significant differences between the various UC-canon (Thunderbolt, Origin, etc)
Kakarot197, the gundam version of hiddenxperia
Is there an in-universe explanation why the Minovsky Fusion Reactor in early MS seem to go nuclear? 'Cause real-life nuclear reactors, even fission ones, don't actually "go nuclear" when damaged or maybe it's because of Minovsky particle shenanigans
That would be because they are Fusion reactors. Uncontrolled Fusion is far more explosive than Fission. What we have in real life is Fission and it is used to heat water up into steam to turn turbines, by Uranium 235 being struck by Neutrons and breaking down into two lighter elements some neutrons and releasing energy in the form of heat. So when a Nuclear reaction goes out of control in those kinds of plants. They tend to meltdown, which does cause an explosion of steam from the the rapid expansion of heat in the water that the Uranium fuel rods are kept in to try to control the reaction.
Where as Fusion combines 2 hydrogen atoms into helium and releases GIGANTIC amounts of energy that usually always results in explosions. Unless controlled. Think The sun. The sun is just hundreds of millions of fusion bomb explosions kept in check by gravity. And these reactions can generate massive amounts of heat in the millions of degrees kelvin.
Which is why when Mobile suit Reactors are damaged it destabilized the delicate balance in the reactor and causes the fusion reaction to instantly rage out of control and Kaboom.
In real life we actually do not have any Fusion reactors if we did it would be monumental and solve the worlds energy needs and end pollution for good.
@@LunaS043 (Looks at Jesus and Freedom)
@@LunaS043 we do have them but there not efficient
@@akiramiller9025 Noooo There are no true fusion reactors. But none of them create any sort of real energy.
Gundam Lore: development history of the D-50C Loto please 🙏
I fucking love that weird little tankboi.
Top 10 fleet filler battleships. For ex: The Salamis Kai. Obviously, no "protag" or Main cast ships like the Argama or White Base.
I just realized 2 worker units not mentioned. One is in the UC timeline during 08th MS team. During Michel and Eledor's escape. They hijacked what appeared to be a crane with a zaku II head. It appeared like its primary function was for excavation of mobile suits from the ground and construction purposes. The 2nd was during age with the construction ms with the heat spade and the heat pick axe.
Do you mean Zaku Tanks?
@@striker2088 it somewhat similar but it isnt a zaku tank
I'll add between the non-canonical the Gundam GT-4 from MS Generation! They got for sure 2 prototype during the OYW, and 2 just after.
And as honorable mention the B-Gundam!
How is Gundam Thunderbolt not apart of regular UC?
Edit: Read my later reply I really had to put thought into what I consider Gundam cannon
cause it's in a seprate timeline
Just like gundam origins... there's just too many liberties taken for the sake of making a good series, that somewhat contradict the original cannon
You can think of Thunderbolt as a very close alternate universe to UC. Like the basic premise is valid in the UC timeline, but the details are slightly different.
It's like Marvel.
@@mr.flames360 I mean you can probably tell as the mobile suits in thunderbolt are so much more advanced than cannon UC.
Wasn’t thunderbolt set in the OYW?
I believe officially it's not just non canon, but an alt timeline
Bro the Mobile Suit in gundam Thunderbolt are ridiculously very advanced for it's era,even the full armor gundam TB are highly advanced compared to the RX-78-2 gundam
@@gonzoengineering4894 yes u're right because in episode 5 there's a lot of contradiction compared to the original gundam anime
If I remembered correctly, in one chapter of the manga (roughly episode 3 of anime) there's a group of EFSF pilots that were sending to stationed at Beehive (Moore Brotherhood flagship) which made up of childrens and teenagers and in same chapter there's a mentioning that there is a teenager or a 16 years old kid (I can't remembered what is the actual lines) who piloted a Gundam which is directly reference to Amuro Ray, the protagonist of the original Gundam. This easter egg/reference are only in manga and not in the anime.
@@zakhaevshub4735 My man, the Gundam Ground Types in TB are advanced beyond RX-78-2.... EVERYTHING in TB is beyond the RX-78-2.
As for other civilian MS, there is the Workloader from 00. Yes that thing is classified as an MS.
And maybe even the Anf as the HRL sold that to pretty much anyone. So some may have been bought by regular civilians. Speaking of which, I do think there is that infographic of the different Anf paintjobs that are used by the different users of the machine including a civilian construction version.
Awesome video, fantastic info and slick editing
12:04 NICE!!!
Here's a question that came to me when I saw them flying overhead earlier today: Did the Federation or Zeon (or any major faction from the other timelines) have an MS squadron akin to the US Navy's Blue Angel Squadron?
It wouldn't surprise me, they likely did. Or, in the case of Zeon, they probably milked the reputations of their top Aces like Char & Johnny Ridden to enhance their efforts to recruit more troops.
While I won't deny the idea of a MS Aerobatic Demonstration team being a possibility in any of the stories or time lines, I don't think they would've. Part of the purpose of Aerobatic teams like the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds are to show how amazing their planes really are, and inspire awe in the crowd while sparking patriotic pride and a possibility of them enlisting, Mobile Suits are already awe inspiring even when standing still because of the scale of raw power they're capable of, plus the news coverage they get when they're fighting near a Colony side, and their major influence on warfare. In all honesty, you really don't need to paint up a MS and pilot it about in a big triangle formation, everyone already knows the shock and aw of a MS unit
@@blubberyoyster4 That's a fair point. Now that I think about it, I'm sure all one would need to do with an MS is just have it stand somewhere and look cool. Like those GINN at the start of SEED Destiny that had the ornate trimming and rifles made of wood.
@@bishopharroo2378 Yeah that Particular Ceremonial Ginn is probably the closest thing to a Military Demonstration Team you'll find, but they're more like the US Marines Rifle/Saber drill team rather than a Aircraft Aerobatic team like the Blue Angels
The closest we got to this was the GINN Ceremonial Types used by ZAFT. My own personal head canon is that they are not just used in parades and greeting VIPs like they are shown doing in Destiny, but are used as honor guard like units around the Supreme Council Building and that of the residence of the Supreme Council Chairman.
then we have the strange kit-bash Mobile Suits from Crossbone Gundam: Dust, those are technically civilian units used in gang styled wars.
RX78-3 was the distinctive variation for the units with coating.
Also, on to the civilian MS, funny thing about civilian MS market is that AE made it possible for them to produce parts to supply the civilian market to the point that ZEON remnants were able to produce new MS from “Federation” parts, such as a certain gelegoog.
One thing I wondered why didn't zeon field their non beam compatible suits with shotguns in larger numbers when its proven to be devastating to gundarium armor and continued to penetrate armor of suits decades more advanced than the weapon itself.
They have much more leftover inventory of zaku machine gun and zooks.
@@lokix19azxc13 I know. But if a weapon is proven less and less effective they should of quickly phased out the machine guns and kept developing the shotguns further.
Another civ suit from AGE was when Asemu and Zeheart were part of a team that constructed civilian mobile suits mobile suits for competition
thanks for updating the question of civilian owned Mobile Suit.
regarding to your closing note about the differences between civilians and non civilians is easy.
Civilians make a living due to work in non combatant activities.
It doesn't make a change if you call yourself "personal protection service" or "mercenary" or "army" or "pirate", if you make a living in a way that includes combat, you are not a civilian.
I didn't expect my question to cause such developments. Sorry and Thank you for going more in-depth!
I remember reading back in the day that 7 RX-78-1 units were initially built, with 3 being upgraded to 78-2, traveling to side 7, and only one unit surviving with the others almost entirely lost aside from a few parts that made it on the White Base before they escaped. Of the remaining 4, the units created were the Heavy Gundam (modified from the first FA test type), the G04 and G05, and the Mudrock, with the Alex being a completely new machine created without using the original 7. But if there were 8, that does give an option for the RX-78FA for Thunderbolt. RX-78-7 was NOT deployed during the OYW, first being deployed in 0081 (Senki was created as a canon entry for the 30th anniversary of Gundam).
As for Civilian MS, it's worth pointing to the colony of Fardain in Gundam AGE, where we also see a really cool civilian MS with a heat shovel and pickaxe. Technically, all of the machines in Fardain were considered civilian... Okay, AGE was just absolutely PACKED with civilian suits.
My favorite civilian owned unit is Sean the desert rat's Gouf custom, that aerial pack looks sweet
I'd like to see a history of piracy in the Universal Century.
Now if they had brought all those Gundams together in a unified fighting force a Gundam... wing if you will, they could have saved a lot of GM's and Sandwich meat.
In my own personal head Canon there were three RX-78-1s and three RX-78-2s. The -1 models were stripped ground use units for testing that lacked the extra thrusters and equipment for space use. They stayed on Earth and were used to develope a dedicated limited production Gundam to counter Zeon ground-use MS, the RX-79[G].
When Zeon forces were defeated on Earth, focus shifted to space and sending as many ships and RGM-79s from Jaburo as possible. While the 78-1s were for ground use they still had better generators and equipment than your average GM so they were sent up to space as well to test the Full Armor equipment which had enough thrusters to stay competitive in space.
Meanwhile the three RX-78-2s were completed multipurpose models sent to Side 7 for space testing, 2 were heavily damaged and shipped of to be rebuilt as the upgraded RX-78-3 and the remaining intact unit was used by Amuro.
As for the RX-78-8, I've never seen anything on it, assume it's the NT-1 by a different name.
An interesting bit of head canon. What about the now canon RX-78-7?
@@robertdrexel2043 i dont know much about the RX-78-7 besides the fact that it wasnt officially completed until after the war ended. Given its heavy firepower and booster packs you could assume it was designed for the final battles of the war when the EFSF would be staging large scale seiges on Zeon asteroid fortresses and home colonies where a heavy MS acted like a high speed battleship to punch through enemy lines and duke it out with Zeek mobile armors.
The mobiles from G Gundam that did the Jetstream attack and the Burning Gundam defeated by tripping them lol 😂
Ever notice in the old anime they all had beam pistols and rifles as normal weapons for ground troops but any later shows everyone is using ballistic weapons?
What a coincidence. I'm reading MSV:R
Cool to see the Heavy Gundam in there.
So if the Slave Wraith and Gundam Pixy are not cannon then the whole story of how Fred Reber switches machines with Doug Schneid, inheriting the Efreet (later the Efreet Schneid) doesn’t explain why Fred is piloting the Efreet Schnied in Gundam unicorn?
Also if the Gelgoog that’s found and later restored to be used as part of the AEUG counts, then what about how Barbatos and Vual were discovered and then later restored, do those count?
maybe if the gundam frames were not armed with guns they could count as a civilian mobile suit provided an actual civilian owns it Barbo and Vual are both owned by pmc's
Black Chandelier Mirage it says that he’s the pilot in the Manuel and that the heat darts were designed for Fred Reber’s cause of tendency to throwing the beam daggers of the pixy
19:30 what came first: the Spinner Rodi or Man Rodi? The spinner looks more general use, but the Man was noted to having a frame similar to the Gundams, and were even able to use the Alaya system.
Again there is the Mobile Worker Units used in Gundam Wing at the Winner Family Resource Satellite. I don't know if they are the same already mentioned Worker Leos but they appear I believe only once in the entire series. Let's see if I can find them in the series. Ah Ha! Found them. Episode 21 of Wing Grief Stricken Quatre. They appear at 10:56 mark. They are basically a sort of a set of Mobile Suit-like legs with an exposed cockpit above that then with some tools and such in arm-like attachments on the side. There is a good Black and White Lineart for these units over at the Gundam Wing page on MAHQ. Also, speaking of Gundam Wing we also have the Maganac Mobile Suits, but I think these fall under your mentioned category in this video.
What is the deal with the Windam? Some sources say it has Variable Phase Shift armor while others says unknown, I am fairly sure we saw in Seed Destiny some of them activate it... But then again we see wrecked ones still have their colour's so my theory is that the Earth Alliance is painting them to trick ZAFT due to their massive losses early on in the war to cut production time/cost to replace their losses? 🤔
In regards to MSV-R there was also the full armor type-b, a further development of the full armor plan for use on the G3. The full armor ground type, a variation of the full armor for use on earth. And the gunner gundam, a gundam variant that specialises in long range sniping. Of these three though only the type-b might have existed.
Okay, the GP02 was probably the worst example since he acquired it in the most illegal of way. Sneaking into a base and taking it from the very hanger. The pirates in IBO search old battlefields and the black market for their suits. They aren't crazy and blindly devoted to an ideology to steal from Gjallarhorn.
As per Tomino originally there’s only one RX-78 which is RX-78-2 that went into production.. the rest are just added for financial reasons..
@ 14:20 G Gundam had both Mobile Fighters and Mobile Suits, the main difference seeming to be that mobile suits were for "military" applications, but with the Gundam Fight being the key factor for their peace among the colonies and essentially functioning as their elections, 'suits probably see less direct funding and attention and just get whatever's left over from developing the nation's latest Gundam Fight entry machine, probably in terms of technologies too.
is the astray outframe considered as one? its used by jess rabble who is a journalist, it's "gun" is one big ass camera, and it has a backpack that is literally a camper.
G-3 I remember get fixed in Luna II. By using parts from RGM-79 [E]
I can't believe that you left out the greatest Gundam to ever grace the Battlefields of the One Year War!! The B Gundam!!
let's get meta here.
is the yokohama gundam a civilian owned mobile suit? XD
How about the thunderbolt Gundam?
He mentioned in the video that Thunderbolt is set in its own variation of the UC.
That 8th RX-78 sounds alot like the existence of the 4th RX-178 mk ii.
You should do a What If about characters from various mobile suit series ending up inside mobile suits from different series... Such as if Amuro Ray ended up in the Gundam Wing universe somehow.
The GN-X III was used by a civilian space company at the start of the 00 movie.
If you think about it, the majority of protagonist Gundam units, as many protagonists start as civilians, as well as any undelivered development units, as they remain with the companies that developed them
I still maintain that all of the gundams in 00 ARE technically civilian owned mobile suits. Celestial being is a private militia which means they are still completely civilian in every legal sense.
Personally i believe that there are roughly 1000 Gundams deployed during the OYW. This includes the Thunderbolt FA Gundam. Reasoning for that is pretty simple, it doesn't conflict with much of the original timeline and we see the One Year War from a trade route defense force from both sides and because there are a decent amount of Thunderbolt sector GMs made that goes to a couple hundred to a thousand, its same to assume that the EFF didn't have much time to refit and repaint the Thunderbolt GMs to be the standard RGM GM load out, they just used them as is. The Thunderbolt Gundam is a RX-78-1 unit with armor and weapons meant for the Thunderbolt sector as a sledgehammer.
In fact there may have been 1 to 12 RX 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7s deployed, with the G3 of white base being the magnetic coating test bed along side the Blue Destiny units. (Which they must have added that to the BD units in hopes of getting better performance and less stress on the joints with EXAM). RX-78-1 being much more mass produced as it was the most simplistic outside of the RX-78-2, all they would need to do is give the data and improved joints for the units and call it a day. The FA-78s, there might have been 9 units built and listed as just simulations and unsuited for combat due to there being some Zeon spies looking to get any new development data of EFF mobile suit for Zeonic to better equip and better counter, so labeling it as a flop and a pipe dream that was ultimately cancelled would lead the project to have a secret limited production run to help the force. The 8th unit may have existed but was destroyed when Amuro used the super napalm to destroy all components of the V projects, like Gundam parts that they simply can not use or bring with them as they were about to depart from Side 7. The 8th unit may have been the perfected RX-78-2 Tim Ray had dreamed about to help end the war as it was to be assembled and built in secrecy onboard White Base.
RX-78NT1 ALEX, was the last and first EFF Gundam to ever be built and use a 360 panoramic monitor linear seat meant for NewTypes of thw OYW.
How does this add up to 1000 though
If I am not mistaken there's only 1 RX-78-6 unit which was destroyed in Zeonic Front against the Midnight Fenrir Team. The RX-78-7 was completed after the war had ended and was being mothballed for a while, but was rushed to completion when the EFF needed something for a spearhead. RX-78-8 was mothballed like 7, but was finally used for parts of the 7th. Look at a comment above.
Your entire post is an one big citstion needed.
@@thomas_mafty_haha i was falling asleep when i wrote this, but it can be explained by making the RX-78-1s the ones with a production run that's higher than the normal 1 to 12 units produced to make it near 1000
@@Marisa_arts If the EF can produce 1000 RX-78-1, they need not bother with the GM.
The Teiwaz frame based units like the Hyakuren,Hyakuri and Hekija from Iron Blooded Orphans are all technically civilian made units. Teiwaz is technically criminal but are a merchant conglomerate styled after the Yakuza. The Shiden also would count for this. Hexa based frames like the Gilda and Hugo also were civilian units. Not as many Hexa frames survived the Calamity War compared to the Rodi units however as Hexa were built for speed over armour and staying power.
Gbo2 MS pics are nice lol
So we just gonna forget Gundam X. I remember some civilians using almost any mobile suits they could find. One example being the Daughtress Tank that was used by Witz Sou’s family.
he kinda touched that point the past video, but then again, some MS are owned by Mercenaries and Outlaws, who dont fit the traditional an legal meaning he was pursuing: Someone like you and me who can go to a store, and buy a MS for private use, considering local laws and stuff.
Coming from Mark Simmons ref, 8 RX-78-1s, 3 RX-78-2's were madded from the 8 RX-78-1's, 1 RX-78-3 was modded from 1 of the 3 RX-78-2's, the RX-78-NT1 was modded from 1 RX-78-1.
RX-78-1 8 to ( 4 )
RX-78-2 ( 2 )
RX-78-3 ( 1 )
RX-78-NT1 ( 1 )
It all makes sense now
I've read about the D Gundam and litereally if we could have that kind of technology in the future......everyone will own a D Gundam😂
Hi Kakarot! Can you make video about HARO history, development & it's role in each series. That roundy boi is not only a mascot but can be a support unit too, I love Lockon's Haro!
Pretty sure The Astray was a Civilian mobile suit during the seed timeline. Originally developed by ORB during the main seed timeline, there are versions s available to seemingly anybody who can afford them during seed astray, which are either owned by a single person/pilot or a pmc style organisation such as Serpentail (Gai Murakumo’s Blue-frame)
I would think the RH-35E Riah 35 Draken E would hardly count as a mobile suit or civilian but they have been seen carrying cargo and such in 0080.
One tiny error:
With the introduction of the new "Blue Destiny" Manga series, Slaive Wraith is now an official Canon unit.
Also, of the planned 8 RX-78s(yes, PLANNED), only 6 were completed and rolled out(even though it was in an emergency for the Mudrock and RX-78-2), with, like you said, the 7th having it's mainframe completed by the end of the war, and was only fully completed post-war during the Zeon Remnant sweep operations on earth(so it's already a stretch to count the 7th Gundam as active DURING the OYW).
As for the RX-78-8? Well, apparently it got scrapped once the war was over. Allegedly, it was to share the same design and concept as the 7th, but having a different loadout(sharing the "brothers" concept of the G04 and G05), but as they barely started construction on the frame, the war ended, and originally, both the 7th and 8th got mothballed, until they(the EFF/EFGF) needed a new machine for their sweep operations, that the 7th was rushed into completion(it's armor was already manufactured, which was why work on the 8th had begun), and the still half assembled 8th was (allegedly) turned into spare parts for the 7th.
Slave Wraith appeared in the manga? I only have books 1-4, also, I heard they totally redesigned BD Units 2 and 3
@@thomas_mafty_haha Yes they did. Apparently, they now used the frame of the RX-80PR as they are named RX-80BD-2 dan RX-80BD-3
Not just that but the presence of the Efreet Schnide in Unicorn also would suggest the events of Slave Wraith did in fact happened in canon
Thomas Tsui yup, they did. Book 7.
Just like in the game, BD got mistaken for the Pale Rider, and Slave Wraith engaged, up until the misunderstanding got sorted out.(context: back in Jaburo, when Slave Wraith was engaged with Marchosias, the Pale Rider intervened, and started attacking both sides. Needless to say, Travis was still pretty pissed about that.)
Double Fake got some love in the PS1 game G Generation F. Pilots and pretty much all MS from the manga are playable.
11:41 but Jupiter basically has its own government that he is a member of.
The marine Gundam did see some deployment it was in Noble Shroud but it was fighting against zee zulus but it didn’t exactly do very well.
IBO Gekkou also has the Labrysy, modified Man Rodis used by Gianmarco Salerno's guys as escort for cargo ships -and also sometimes pirates, but that's not their design purpose-
There's also Ollerus with their Graze Stachels, who are on paper Gjallarhorn's internal police force, but operate in ways that are toeing the line to a PMC quite a few times
Forgot about the Hobby Hi-Zack from CCA. It was piloted by Gyunei.
Spinner rodi gunpla is needed don't matter grade it just has to happen
All the Gundam’s from Gundam wing, they were developed by civilians and piloted by civilians, and the pilots could do whatever they wanted with them
I dont think they count. Oz knew about operation meteor, so there was a network behind them originally. Also I m pretty sure the pilots in Wing broke a lot of laws.
As a fan of both Gundam and Macross I thought I'd throw my two cents in on this the matter of Macross Canon . After watching the older Macross series myself, my headcanon is that do you remember love is a little bit more official than the TV series; based on the design of Exedol (think I spelled that right), who is pretty much just seen as a giant disembodied head in the movie and in the sequel Macross 7.
Now, when Shoji kawamori was asked about some differences of the various series of the Macross universe, I kind of get a chuckle now about his response, which in a meta way covers any and everything.
His answer was that you're not actually watching the events as they unfold, you're watching programs retelling of past events as if you were in the Macross universe. As a result, differences could be seen as the show creators' artistic license when they were making them.
The 8 unit is the one of thunderbolt I think so cus it’s also an rx-78 but with a lot of shields and some other stuff on it
A marine Gundam did appear in manga Agguy 400 miles
Hloekk Graze is also use by Gjallarhorn for reloading the Dainsleif.
I'm pretty sure one of the old zeon aquatic MS from the Tigerbaum episode was an old Juagg and I think there was an Acguy and maybe even an Agguy as well.
Private security firms, private military, and pirates are considered combatants and not civilian organizations. Civi's use of military tech removes the weapons, ammunition, and anything that could be used against the actual military present at the time. If these mobile suits had functioning targeting systems, weapons, and ammo then they are considered combatants. Once those features are removed, then they are considered civilian use. It is the same way that American police relinquish old police cars to civilian buyers. They remove any trace of police tags, decals, and anything related to police and their department before selling it to civilian owners. Now if the person was a scrapper, then I can see a militarized damaged unit being repaired for civilian use but those scrappers may have contracts with military officials which prevents them from claiming the mobile suit as their own until the military can gut the suit for spare parts.
Cattle from the Moon moon colony in ZZ Gundam. That was a civilian construction mobilesuit, right?
Yes Gundam Unit 2 is definitely a civilian mobile suit.
I'm not sure of some of the suits mentioned. But I do have to say that just because a machine maybe a worker unit doesn't necessarily mean it is civilian. Militaries tend to modify machines into engineering vehicles. I'm sighting the Leo as I'm not sure if it was truly civilian, but could be wrong. Other suits could fall in to the same category though.
You forget about some civilian Mobile suits from gundamOO series even tho they had guns mounted on them. And Gundam savior since that piolet was a civilian
RX-0 Unicorn. Would that fall under the heading of Privately Owned Civilian Mobile Suits?
20:43 a civilian mobile suit armed with a tactical nuke,
I would love to hear your thoughts on why Zeon put so much effort into aquatic mobile suits when they were basically a space based nation. And also, what were the best and worst aquatic MS.
My best guess is that they were easy to hide on Earth. The Federation wasn't able to really track them very well underwater, they could be setup the mobile suits from anywhere near water and have them deploy to new areas pretty much unseen.
Then they could be used for hit and run raids or as an ambush unit to catch the Federation off-guard and quickly retreat where the Federation struggled to follow.
I guess the question there is why the Federation didn't have better deep sea equipment sooner. Though in real life some people say we know more about Space than we do our own Oceans still.
I don't know if it counts exactly but does the "Gundam" piloted by Master Asia's horse in G Gundam qualify as civilian owned?
It's called Fuunsaiki, and since it's a participant in the Gundam Fight, I'd guess no
Fuunsaiki no, but the devil gundam would count...if you could just go somewhere and actually buy that thing.
What gundams and mobile suits in the UC have an Artificial Intelligence?
With every new OYW Gundam introduced, it becomes less plausible to me that they couldn't get Amuro a better Gundam.
Pixie and Alex Gundam be proof but intercepted by zeon forces.
Actually, in the (Origin) cannon universe, the Heavy Gundam was never a later model RX-79 but a first run RX-78-1 unit that was upgraded into the RX-78-1 [FSD] which was created from a Rx-78-1[N] Gundam local type. also, I would say thunderbolt would be cannon now.
Q: Gonna ask again, whats the best and worst aquatic/amphibious MSs, question not restricted to just UC, bonus points if you make it a 5 by 5.
They need to remake Gundam Zeonic front
tHeWasTeDYouth... Can't blame you on that one Kakarot... Ahem... It's Okay... You'll be fine.
What happened to the rest of the Gundam frames from iron blooded orphans mobile suit Gundam
Some of Gundam frame were destroy in calamity war other we're in Gjallarhorn's headquarters underground hangar and some fell to pirates
also another thing that doesn't make any sense is that how comes they were only 3 Gundam unicorn
Despite being forbidden to equip weapons, the Raysta could realistically do so if it was necessary; the C. E.`s Junk Guild should be allowed to do so strictly for defensive purposes (example)