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  • @kakarot197
    @kakarot197  3 года назад +210

    With the upcoming RG Zeong, I felt that it was only fitting to make a Development History on this iconic machine.
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    Kakarot's notes:
    Please keep in mind that this video only deals with mainline UC-lore and excludes the Origin and Thunderbolt as those are set in their own version of UC. (with their own story-specific history)

    • @tommyv010
      @tommyv010 3 года назад +3

      Have you seen the perfect zeong thunderbolt Version ?

    • @Detective_L
      @Detective_L 3 года назад +1

      I noticed at the 5:00 mark of this video you used the main menu soundtrack from Gundam Crossfire/Target In Sight. That game was amazing. Unfortunately due to been a launch title for the PS3, it suffered numerous issues like bad ai and glitches. I wish they remastered that game with more campaigns and units while obviously fixing the bugs and voice acting.

    • @MagiYellow
      @MagiYellow 3 года назад +1

      @@tommyv010 Og ver : a Zeong with legs.
      thunderbolt ver : a Zeong with fuel tanks.
      😆😆😆

    • @chrisyoung1576
      @chrisyoung1576 3 года назад

      @@MagiYellow Thunderbolt rlly love fuel tank

    • @arieltimeshrine8137
      @arieltimeshrine8137 3 года назад

      @Kakarot197 at around the 9:10 mark, when the technical specification screen for the Zeong was shown, the power output of the Zeong was stated to be 94,000kW. Given that the earlier slides stated the Perfect Zeong's output was 9,400kW I believe this to be a typo.

  • @SoulstrikerV
    @SoulstrikerV 3 года назад +240

    MSN-03 Zeong: You took everything from me.
    MSN-03 Jagd Doga: I don't even know who you are.

    • @rosstemple1184
      @rosstemple1184 Год назад +1

      avengers scarlet witch and Thanos, I see what you did there lol

  • @0supermoose804
    @0supermoose804 3 года назад +936

    Before the pandemic: Hey, Gundam’s cool, maybe I’ll look into it if I have some time.
    Post-Pandemic: I HAVE A BURNING NEED TO KNOW WHY THE LOGISTICS BEHIND THE PERFECT ZEONG DIDNT WORK OUT

    • @kakarot197
      @kakarot197  3 года назад +255

      Gundam is a rabbit hole without ending, welcome.

    • @GojiraFan-in9oo
      @GojiraFan-in9oo 3 года назад +52

      Because legs are just for show

    • @jiriz0r
      @jiriz0r 3 года назад +90

      This is so recognizable it hurts.
      Me January 2020: Gundam the Origin was pretty cool, I should watch some more Gundam shows. And that Zaku looks pretty cool, doesn’t the store next to my barber sell Gundam model kits or something?
      Me January 2021: UC is the best continuity, Char did nothing wrong, I’ve seen every UC show and watched my imported 08th MS Team and 0080 WitP blu-rays with every friend I could. My Gunpla collection has outgrown its shelf twice, P-Bandai prices seem fair and reasonable, my new life goal is to own a kit of every OYW Zeon suit and my new favorite t-shirt is a vintage Cospa shirt of the MS-09 Dom visor I got online from a Malaysian thrift store.
      Not gonna lie, I may need help...

    • @GojiraFan-in9oo
      @GojiraFan-in9oo 3 года назад +16

      @@jiriz0r This is me when checking out gundam series that weren't build fighters

    • @hilmi8636
      @hilmi8636 3 года назад +5

      My guy, you should try building gunpla too

  • @donovanbradford8231
    @donovanbradford8231 3 года назад +6

    I loved the psycom Zakus. Even though they have a limited operation time I see those guys a great escort ms. Magnetically fix them to the ship, run a power pipe to them, and you get one hell of a gunner that only needs to leave if the enemy gets to close.

  • @HeadCannonPrime
    @HeadCannonPrime 3 года назад +13

    I like the Braw Bro. They have never made a good scale model or even a MSIA toy. And that is a bummer.

  • @redohealer2
    @redohealer2 3 года назад +3

    Legless Development History

  • @heavyarms55
    @heavyarms55 3 года назад +5

    I never liked the Zeong line. I don't know what it is about it, but it feels more super roboty and gimmicky. Still, cool video dude! I love how you frame these lore videos almost like in-universe documentaries. I actually get a kick out of imagining that kind of thing. Like in the old Star Wars books (pre-Disney) imagining an in-universe biography of Luke Skywalker decades after the war. Or in Gundam, 100 years post OYW, studying about the OYW in school, the way we learn about WW2 and such. Maybe I'm just weird, but I find that kind of thing really cool.
    As for Loot Crate, I had a subscription for about 2 years and I ended it about 2-3 years ago. They send some cool stuff. But it's all very very cheaply made. I liked a lot of the T-shirts they sent, but they were such poor quality that after wearing them maybe 6-8 times, they were faded, stretched out and basically little more than rags. Compare that to T-shirts I bought at Hot Topic a *decade* ago that I still have and wear regularly, after hundreds of washes.
    I'd much rather use my money for a smaller number of higher quality shirts and collectibles of my choosing, than get a bunch of random stuff that - while cool - is very poor quality.

  • @DeamonChocobo
    @DeamonChocobo 9 месяцев назад

    Headcanon: the Kikeroga was originally going to be the MSN-01 as a prototype to the Zeong but was scrapped when they realized it wouldn't work at a standard MS size, this is what caused the High Mobility Psycommu Zaku to have its model numer changed. The Kikeroga would still influence the Zeong in design and placing the shoulder Beam Cannons into the body.
    Also I see the Great Zeong as more a development of Neo/Axis Zeon engineers directly following the One Year War (before they called themselves Neo Zeon) and was based on the unbuilt MSN-03, which is why it has the "-2". This would also explain why is has such a resemblance to the Queen Mansa & Kshatriya.

  • @anzaca1
    @anzaca1 3 года назад +1

    10:55 The Great Zeong looks like it was partly based on the Apsalus series of Mobile Armours from 08th MS Team. It also sort of resembles the later Kshatryia.

    • @magnatcleo2043
      @magnatcleo2043 3 года назад +1

      A lot of its individual parts are based on other Zeon mobile armors. The lower body is essentially a Big Zam, the torso is similar to an Aspalsus III, And the design as a whole might be based on the Quin Mantha, rather than the Kyshatryia.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 года назад +1

      And the Neo Zeong looks like it draws fron the Neue Ziel in the shoulders department.

  • @bigbossdog1988
    @bigbossdog1988 Год назад

    In Gundam Thunderbolt #4 manga
    There were 4 Zeongs
    Char was the only one that flew the original prototype in battle
    The other 3 were still being assembled but were stopped and captured by a Federation strike force at the battle of A Boa Qu

  • @DeamonChocobo
    @DeamonChocobo 3 года назад +1

    I know it was only in Battle Assault but I'm a little sad I didn't see the "Beam Kick" the front thrusters could do in that game.

  • @Damitsall
    @Damitsall 3 года назад

    Love it when you do these videos.

  • @christianaguirre163
    @christianaguirre163 3 года назад +4

    Question: kakarot197 what are your top 10 mobile armors from the Gundam franchise??

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 3 года назад

      I'd love to see that, or a top 10 warships.

    • @GaldirEonai
      @GaldirEonai 3 года назад

      @@bthsr7113 Outside of the various hero ships (like White Base and it's successors in UC or the various protagonist carriers in the SEED timeline) warships in any kind of gundam series only exist to be slaughtered by mobile suits without any hope of fighting back.
      I mean, I'd love to see a top 10 list of warships because there's some really cool designs across the franchise, but honestly, it'd be a pretty sad video :P.

  • @ChristianMcAngus
    @ChristianMcAngus 3 года назад

    There's also the After War analogue - the RMSN-02 Febral.

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 3 года назад +1

    Take a sip of water every time he says wired or wire-guided.

    • @asimplenobody7797
      @asimplenobody7797 3 года назад

      For a sec I was worried for someone's liver. Well played

  • @ineon_playz9964
    @ineon_playz9964 3 года назад +1

    Yeees another development vid!

  • @stormspotter67
    @stormspotter67 3 года назад +2

    I’m a simple man. I see gundam development story, I click.

  • @gundamdragon
    @gundamdragon 4 месяца назад

    Did anyone notice the zeong did have arm on it's arm

  • @TheDiamondChrisProductions
    @TheDiamondChrisProductions 2 года назад

    I'm hoping we see what happens to the other 2 Zeongs if the Gundam Thunderbolt anime continues

  • @WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
    @WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS Год назад

    With the Zeong's appreciate in the Unicorn manga, would it be possible to get an updated version of this video to cover that version?

  • @diapason89
    @diapason89 3 года назад +1

    The Great Zeong seemed like the base for the Kshatriya, sans the Fin Funnels.

    • @DeathToJihad
      @DeathToJihad 3 года назад

      The Khashitriya is based on the Queen Mansa and Quebley.

  • @bobbiemanueldelapena4997
    @bobbiemanueldelapena4997 3 года назад

    The Zabi family are the only ones to blame for the Principality of Zeon's defeat during the One-Year War...

  • @blueranger7107
    @blueranger7107 Год назад +1

    Hey, looking at this got me thinking, what if during the battle of A Baoa Qu, Amuro has the Alex Gundam and Char has the Great Zeong or the Zeong High Mobility Type when they battled it out with each other, would that have been a more even fight?

  • @worstfriend9456
    @worstfriend9456 3 года назад

    just wish got model kits of these mobile suits, especially the test type with the efreet head

  • @brickmixerstudios2674
    @brickmixerstudios2674 3 года назад

    We need one of these for the Dom, Gogg, and Z’gok

  • @soulcrossinc3089
    @soulcrossinc3089 3 года назад

    I would like to see the development history of the quebely and quin mantha.

  • @mrspeigel3593
    @mrspeigel3593 3 года назад

    I just want a MG of the zeong prototype from Thunderbolt

  • @darkfent
    @darkfent 3 года назад

    I had a dream just now...the RG Zeong finally came out and it's the 21st...but I woke up and it's just the 12th

  • @LordGrim1313
    @LordGrim1313 3 года назад

    completely forgetting the influence it had on the federation developing the pyscho gundam but okay then.

  • @supercopmeetthecop
    @supercopmeetthecop 3 года назад

    I would love to see one of these about the original OYW era GM

  • @frigginresulrum
    @frigginresulrum 3 года назад

    My takeaway from this is that the Ball Gundam inspired the Psycho Gundam.

  • @redwardranger7034
    @redwardranger7034 3 года назад

    Hopefully, I'm not the only one seeing a P Bandai Perfect Zeong head

  • @thomasdesmarais2916
    @thomasdesmarais2916 2 года назад

    What for all the zeong that we see in gundam thunderbolts bandit flower

  • @CLSharpman5000
    @CLSharpman5000 3 года назад

    How could the Zeong use its head mounted mega particle cannon without being attached to it's body? Wouldn't that mean it'd be disconnected from its reactor?

    • @U012
      @U012 3 года назад

      It probably has limited use. Like a couple of shots to try and retreat

  • @andreandre5691
    @andreandre5691 Год назад

    oh. rumors.

  • @NeilNadelman
    @NeilNadelman 3 года назад

    You really don't count the Alpha Azieru in the family tree?

  • @Lavendeer201
    @Lavendeer201 Год назад

    Definitely the coolest MS in the original Gundam!

  • @apartizann
    @apartizann 3 года назад

    10:11 So they were trying to make their own Turn X?

  • @B1_224
    @B1_224 Год назад

    The zeong was only developed because of the ball gundam

  • @nrrusty5815
    @nrrusty5815 3 года назад

    I suddenly want the rg

  • @sargera1
    @sargera1 3 года назад

    does zaku reuse psycho fall into somewhere in zeong dev

  • @theskipper7305
    @theskipper7305 3 года назад

    Im sorry but that Psychommu early type looks more an Efreet than a Zaku

  • @Godzilla00X
    @Godzilla00X 3 года назад

    But is George DeSand a new type due to his rose bits 🤔

  • @tacticianM
    @tacticianM 3 года назад

    Can we get the gelgoog next please

  • @Rayven001
    @Rayven001 9 месяцев назад

    zeng had dev history???

  • @quincylewis6839
    @quincylewis6839 2 года назад

    LMAO Zeon got trolled!

  • @spartana1116
    @spartana1116 3 года назад

    What about the grand zeong?

  • @drunkdriver
    @drunkdriver 3 года назад +1

    Char lost at a boa qu because he couldn't kick the gundam without legs

  • @HeadCannonPrime
    @HeadCannonPrime 3 года назад

    Does anybody think we will get a p-bandai RG perfect Zeong?

  • @boggers4208
    @boggers4208 3 года назад +1

    So is the zeong in thunderbolt seen in thunderbolt december sky and later piloted by io fleming and one other guy in the manga count as a himo zeong or just regular zeong with more thrusters attached to give more mobility

    • @biggussoupius9713
      @biggussoupius9713 3 года назад

      More speed, even less agility and doesnt fix any of the issues the original Zeong faced. Feds at their finest.

    • @boggers4208
      @boggers4208 3 года назад

      @@biggussoupius9713 "just slap on some thrusters those newtypes can handle the rest, it will be fine"

  • @jdrainwater7353
    @jdrainwater7353 3 года назад +661

    Here's what Zeon needed to do to win.
    1. No mobile armors
    2. Get rid of prototypes and initiate Bishop Plan.
    3. Give Ral his freaking Doms

    • @jdrainwater7353
      @jdrainwater7353 3 года назад +67

      General Maintenance Plan my mistake

    • @moriskurth628
      @moriskurth628 3 года назад +137

      They should have taken a look at the history of Warfare, and learned from that.
      War comes down to Logistics and Supply. It doesn't matter that you have the most amazing weapons available if you can't produce all that many of them, or can't get them to the frontlines in sufficient numbers. Or if you have gear that is difficult to repair and keep running in the field.
      Boys study Tactics, Men study Logistics.

    • @friedrichrosencrantz9939
      @friedrichrosencrantz9939 3 года назад +35

      @@moriskurth628 They tried to do what the federation did, create superweapon prototype and turn the tide of the war with it.

    • @DU_hockeygirl40
      @DU_hockeygirl40 3 года назад +56

      4. Mass produce the Big Zam lol

    • @argos129
      @argos129 3 года назад +7

      No. Just one thing: a Gundam.

  • @dakka123
    @dakka123 3 года назад +698

    Once the Tequila Gundam enters mass production we will finally defeat the Mushroom Kingdom.

    • @Bobert2020
      @Bobert2020 3 года назад +87

      Imagine a full armor tequila gundam. Its armor will look like tacos

    • @hitachicordoba
      @hitachicordoba 3 года назад +53

      @@Bobert2020 FA Tequila Gundam Mk II "Mezcal"

    • @Midnight_CIub
      @Midnight_CIub 3 года назад +23

      hgfc tequila gundam when bandai?

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 3 года назад +7

      Desert Radio until other 4 main gundam got a gunpla

    • @Gigas0101
      @Gigas0101 3 года назад +4

      Final victory will be ours!

  • @neonnwave1
    @neonnwave1 3 года назад +210

    Zeon Engineers: "How many thrusters do you want?"
    Zeong High Mobility Type: "Yes."

    • @luminusprime
      @luminusprime 3 года назад +13

      Nina: You should defect to the Zeons with me, Kou!
      Kou: Pfft, their MS don't have nearly enough vern --
      Zeong HM Type:
      Kou: SIEG ZEON

    • @plague6566
      @plague6566 2 года назад +4

      They really took that High Mobility name a little too seriously

  • @FordLancer
    @FordLancer 3 года назад +271

    I know Char’s Deleted Affair story is considered to be an alternate universe story but I love that Char at the end of it piloted a perfect Zeong and the difference in its ability was instantly noticed by him. It was faster and more maneuverable. The federation soldiers that encountered it that day would never live to tell the tale.

    • @MusicFan752
      @MusicFan752 3 года назад +36

      Makes you wonder what would happen if char in the perfect zeong fought against amuro in a completed gundam Alex.

    • @FordLancer
      @FordLancer 3 года назад +45

      @@MusicFan752 I like the alternate stories in gundam vs zeta gundam (PS2 console) where if Amuro had not killed Lalah, he and Char would have joined the AUEG and together guided Kamille against the titans. Another one is where Lalah and Sayla are both dead and Char joins the Titans instead.

    • @mocca3633
      @mocca3633 3 года назад +1

      man, That battle between char and the feddies are the example of how powerful Perfect zeong is.

    • @trollinoakenshield9822
      @trollinoakenshield9822 3 года назад +9

      @@MusicFan752 i dont think it will give char any edge even over OG gundam, those leg only increase it size and make zeong easier target

    • @biggussoupius9713
      @biggussoupius9713 3 года назад +9

      @@trollinoakenshield9822 Mobility and agility is greatly improved, allowing the Zeong to more easily dodge shots and more easily aim its own MPCs. This would've been massive since Char was an MS pilot and wasnt familar to the MA like control that the legless Zeong faced.

  • @VRHyoumaru
    @VRHyoumaru 3 года назад +125

    To this day I still wonder why the "Perfect Zeong" is still missing armor on one bicep and one thigh.

    • @bellablessings5410
      @bellablessings5410 3 года назад +43

      to be fair, it's not supposed to if you look at the model kit and other artwork, but yeah a lot of official artwork also still have those parts missing and I'm not really sure why, maybe out of universe aesthetic reasons lmao

    • @rennpang4865
      @rennpang4865 3 года назад +33

      @@bellablessings5410 I think it was suppose to mean that the Perfect Zeong doesn't have time to be completed fully so it has some missing parts.

    • @goldenmaskedgaming2327
      @goldenmaskedgaming2327 3 года назад +14

      I think it's to show the what the wires that guide the arms and legs look like under the armor.

    • @seawind930
      @seawind930 3 года назад +18

      To be Sexy, it has to show off the components.

    • @Gigas0101
      @Gigas0101 3 года назад +23

      @@seawind930 "My parts are showing? OH MY!" -A prudish GM

  • @KuruniXD
    @KuruniXD 3 года назад +87

    Three things worth noting.
    1. The Zeong has second cockpit in torso, and supposely still operatable by two oldtype pilots working together (not as good as one newtype, of course).
    2. At least one model kit manual claim that Zeong is always suppose to be legless in space and the missing 20% are the missing armor around its upper arms. But this might get retconed as newer kits claim both the legs and upper arms' armor contribute to that 20%
    3. Technically the Psycho Gundam is yet another of Zeong' successor. It's huge, it has cockpit in head, and the weapons are very similar (head beam, finger beams, and abdoment beams) but use the psycommu system for controlling the MA itself instead.

    • @ВасилийМорозов-л7х
      @ВасилийМорозов-л7х 3 года назад +6

      The Psycho Gundam II also possesses wire-guided arms, while the "prototype Psycho Gundam" was literally made around this feature.

  • @UselessFox224
    @UselessFox224 3 года назад +359

    I love how Thunderbolt gives us explanation for at least one of those other Zeong units, it's now being polited by Io apparently!

    • @zakhaevshub4735
      @zakhaevshub4735 3 года назад +4

      Wait Federation Zeong ?

    • @zakhaevshub4735
      @zakhaevshub4735 3 года назад +5

      @@SUNDOWNERM7 hey bro which volume that the feddies had zeong ?

    • @SUNDOWNERM7
      @SUNDOWNERM7 3 года назад +31

      @@zakhaevshub4735 can't remember but it's one of the more recent ones. The Federation in thunderbolt had captured 3 Zeongs and amped the suit up. It has an booster rocket with Missiles and the head was capable of seating two Pilots. Io pilots it due to the Atlas gundam being overhauled for space use and is being piloted by the other Chick in thunderbolt that pilots the Guncannon aqua.

    • @zakhaevshub4735
      @zakhaevshub4735 3 года назад +14

      @@SUNDOWNERM7 wait Io and Bianca piloting Refitted Zeong😂 ?

    • @zakhaevshub4735
      @zakhaevshub4735 3 года назад +8

      @@SUNDOWNERM7 atlas gundam modified for space use?, I haven't seen thunderbolt since bandit flower (i forgot which chapter)

  • @MrPatriot112
    @MrPatriot112 3 года назад +108

    In Gundam Thunderbolt, a number of Zeong's were captured by a Federation assault team.

    • @leolied6766
      @leolied6766 3 года назад +29

      Kakarot likely just left thunderbolt out since it has canonical issues with the original 0079 lore

    • @MrPatriot112
      @MrPatriot112 3 года назад +2

      @@leolied6766 Hmmm, true.

    • @JeffreyPiatt
      @JeffreyPiatt 3 года назад +1

      The new Paramount + shows are cannon star trek has always ran on Gene Roddenberry's cannon policy " that it always looked like that we just didn't have the money to.implement it back then" he also like to adjust his cannon view based on how he read a panel audience. The on!y AU is the Kelvin timeline from the last few films.

    • @travisstryder216
      @travisstryder216 3 года назад +1

      Federation zeong is much better design than the zeong. With rocket like thruster for the leg. It promises much more mobility and power to perform earth to space maneuver.

    • @TerminatorGundam300
      @TerminatorGundam300 3 года назад +3

      @@travisstryder216 I've seen on the wiki, but it functions similar to the Braw Bro in that the pilot is an Old-type and the Psycommu weapons are controlled by a New-type co-pilot. Also I don't think it's part of the manga was translated yet

  • @IvanksMW
    @IvanksMW 3 года назад +97

    The Neo Zeong was a goddamn monster, its one of the most overkill machines in the UC I mean how many mega particle cannons you could possibly need

    • @gonk_ch
      @gonk_ch 2 года назад +5

      full frontal: yes

    • @Aceshot-uu7yx
      @Aceshot-uu7yx 2 года назад +2

      More dakka so I can shoot the unicorn through time

    • @m4albino201
      @m4albino201 Год назад +6

      @@Aceshot-uu7yx and also itz red to make da neo zeong go fasta.

  • @Nehfarius
    @Nehfarius 3 года назад +37

    ...you know, this leaves me with one fairly scary mental image: a Perfect Zeong Hi-Mobility Type, with both legs AND thruster wings.

  • @Bobert2020
    @Bobert2020 3 года назад +60

    Whenever I see the zeong for some reason I always remember that gundam-san episode where Amuro looks under the Dom's skirt
    Oh and when will there be a hazel development history? I want to see you talk about all of them. ALL OF THEM
    Wait why is the psycommu early test type called a zaku when it looks like an effect?

    • @GojiraFan-in9oo
      @GojiraFan-in9oo 3 года назад +1

      The Hazel was actually part of the Byarlant's development history

    • @leolied6766
      @leolied6766 3 года назад +3

      @@GojiraFan-in9oo Yeah the key word is part of.

    • @genisisbeing
      @genisisbeing 3 года назад +3

      because as shown by this very episode Zeonic MS sucks at naming things.

    • @DeathToJihad
      @DeathToJihad 3 года назад +1

      Ah, yes, the Gundam-san omakes! Mostly they just went after Char for being a pedophile.

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 2 года назад

      Because they just attached all the bits to a Zaku frame.

  • @GojiraFan-in9oo
    @GojiraFan-in9oo 3 года назад +51

    1:21 Funnel development history

  • @SkepticalChris
    @SkepticalChris 3 года назад +60

    7:12 I just love the story of the Zeong, in that its factory was under attack when it was being constructed, but being 80% complete, they launched it into combat anyways with enlarged rockets.
    Kinda reminds me of those stories of Stalingrad, where the Soviets were literally rolling out T-34 tanks out of the factories, straight into combat.

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 2 года назад +10

      When your getting your ass kicked you gotta turn everything thing loose for a punchers chance a winning.

  • @TheG_Remix
    @TheG_Remix 3 года назад +30

    Even though nobody calls it a spiritual successor, I think Neo Zeon's Alpha Azieru should count as one for the Zeong. Has the same overall concept, cockpit in head, similar weapons, and even has the Sturn Thrusters the Neo Zeong had. Not it's fault Quess was the pilot, lol.

  • @SwiftGundam
    @SwiftGundam 3 года назад +20

    Oh Zeon Deikun. If only you knew.
    Thank god they never finished that thing or Amuro would've failed.

    • @gundamdude8351
      @gundamdude8351 2 года назад +1

      Especially those heavy legs and char signature kicks yeah the federation would be retreating back out of fear of the red comet

  • @sith2u
    @sith2u 3 года назад +26

    Interesting bit of old-timey lore: one of the same sources that mentioned the Zeong supposing to split apart also mentions that it was supposed to be equipped with spare cables in case it was disarmed. The implication as to the anticipated difficulty in getting the limbs to rendezvous w/ the MS during combat implies the Zeong's arms *might* have been able to be wirelessly controlled w/i an extremely limited range in the meantime.

  • @TheDeathNoteNear
    @TheDeathNoteNear 3 года назад +25

    7:55 I thought my monitor was glitching when the Zeon symbol started moving.

    • @GaldirEonai
      @GaldirEonai 3 года назад +3

      ...What dark sorcery is this?

  • @r01d2
    @r01d2 3 года назад +36

    from game
    Gato: so this is Zeong, where's the legs?
    Char: technicians said the legs are just decoration....
    Gato: lol
    future Gato: *piloting legless MA*

  • @EinDose
    @EinDose 3 года назад +31

    This video disappoints me, it's such a shame that the Zeong's best feature was neglected by most of its successors.
    One of my favorite parts of the original Gundam was the "It doesn't have legs." "It doesn't need legs!" exchange. Especially because once you see it in action you realize that they're right; it really DOESN'T need legs.

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 2 года назад +9

      Funny considering the most iconic scene in Gundam is Chars Zaku kicking the Gundam. Also watching how pilots move the legs for more agility when in space. Let just not mention the fighting on earth and colony’s.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 года назад +5

      AMBACS needs some kind of weighted thing to theow around to help the mech turn and flip without having to burn propellant best used to accelerate and brake.

    • @Aplex21
      @Aplex21 2 года назад +3

      @@zacharyradford5552 mobile suits never made much sense to me on earth. In space the benefits are very obvious. In reality on a planet you out fit tanks with guns capable of taking out zaku armor and they have the advantage. A 60ft tall mobile suit makes a hell of a target and you only need to take out something below the waist to make it unusable on Earth

    • @thesamuraix881
      @thesamuraix881 Год назад +1

      Zeong was perfect without legs

  • @GojiraFan-in9oo
    @GojiraFan-in9oo 3 года назад +22

    6:14 because legs are for chumps
    9:36 Ha!!

  • @keiming2277
    @keiming2277 3 года назад +17

    Char: it has no legs
    Engineer : Those high ranked officers know shit about machinery

    • @andrewowens4421
      @andrewowens4421 3 года назад +11

      Yeah, you don't really need legs in space. Unless you just have the urge to kick something in your giant robot.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 3 года назад +2

      Andrew Owens ...wait

    • @Ivnnih2774
      @Ivnnih2774 3 года назад +8

      @@andrewowens4421 thats exactly why zeong lose against gundam because zeong doesn't have legs char can't use his trademark kick on the gundam

  • @CD-Gaming
    @CD-Gaming 3 года назад +6

    That Great Zeong looks reminiscent of the Kshatriya from Unicorn and those giant Neo Zeongs remind me of the Alpha Azeiru from Char's Counterattack! And I thought I was bad having the same two character names in all my NaNoWriMo projects even though they don't share universes! Mostly! (Two are Pokémon, two are Gundam Mars Colony Era (mine), one Borderlands and I'm scrapping and starting over with the pirates one in favour of a space adventure!)
    Speaking of, how about development history for Qubeley/Quin Mantha/Kshatriya?

  • @vustvaleo8068
    @vustvaleo8068 3 года назад +11

    Zeon engineer: "legs are just for show!"
    also Char is famous for his Red Comet Kick attack, lol.

  • @jdesantiago100895
    @jdesantiago100895 3 года назад +14

    *sees a new Kakarot197 vid*
    *CLICK*

  • @failed_K
    @failed_K 3 года назад +61

    "All 3 Units were then destroyed"
    Thunderbolt: haha.... no
    Edit: so based on the comments below, Thunderbolt is just as cannon as missing link

    • @supergeno128ds
      @supergeno128ds 3 года назад +26

      To be fair, Thunderbolt is an alternate continuity that greatly resembles the OG Universal Century but takes a lot of creative liberties. (Especially with MS design.)

    • @ajt_channel
      @ajt_channel 3 года назад +3

      @@supergeno128ds can you sight any official sources claiming this? I can't seem to find any info regarding Thunderbolt not being part of UC time line.

    • @SweetPotatoDingo
      @SweetPotatoDingo 3 года назад +1

      @@supergeno128ds is it confirmed alternative time line, cause I've yet to see anything in official media stating that

    • @supergeno128ds
      @supergeno128ds 3 года назад +18

      @@SweetPotatoDingo Most people agree its an alternate timeline- and even the author of the series has confirmed it in an interview- otakumode.com/news/52fc76ef80cd488c6b00068f/Interview-with-Mobile-Suit-Gundam-Thunderbolt-Author-Yasuo-Ohtagaki-3-3
      " It’s a bit off from the so-called “correct history,” but I did that on purpose [laugh]. I started off on the sidelines without much attention, which actually allowed some freedom as I wrote and I didn’t have to defend myself, so I decided to change what I wanted, and I think it was good that I could start that way. Being in that position is similar to how it was for the first Gundam, so I’ve been happy with it. "

    • @ajt_channel
      @ajt_channel 3 года назад +1

      @@SweetPotatoDingo I guess you are right, the kits are not sold under the HGUC branding.

  • @GojiraFan-in9oo
    @GojiraFan-in9oo 3 года назад +44

    FINALLY. CHAR'S ULTIMATE MOBILE SUIT

    • @GojiraFan-in9oo
      @GojiraFan-in9oo 3 года назад +12

      @Hikaru shidou Sazabi is debatable
      But Nightingale is the most obscure Char machine

    • @Kenny_F91
      @Kenny_F91 3 года назад +5

      @@GojiraFan-in9oo I think the Suzaku would be the most obscure.

    • @GojiraFan-in9oo
      @GojiraFan-in9oo 3 года назад +5

      @@Kenny_F91 huh? What is the Suzaku?

    • @Kenny_F91
      @Kenny_F91 3 года назад +3

      @@GojiraFan-in9oo It was featured in the non-canon manga that Space Runaway Ideon appeared in. Char, Amuro and Judau fought against it to stop the destruction of the universe.

    • @charaznable6597
      @charaznable6597 3 года назад +1

      I would argue the neo zeong is superior

  • @BigTArmada
    @BigTArmada 3 года назад +14

    The box art on that Perfect Zeong is f*ckin' cool.

  • @dubyaw9511
    @dubyaw9511 3 года назад +7

    You know the Zeons we're in a hurry when they didn't have time to paint the unit red.

  • @sunrisespartan1765
    @sunrisespartan1765 3 года назад +21

    when are we getting RGM development history

    • @matthewbrune5490
      @matthewbrune5490 3 года назад +7

      As soon as we get a Development History on the RX-78-2 A.K.A. The OG Gundam because the GM-Series (or Jim-Series depending on who you ask\pronounce it) were developed from the RX-78-2, which in and of itself, set the general precedent for all Gundam series to come.

    • @seawind930
      @seawind930 3 года назад +4

      I'm pretty sure it went like this " General: Well we successfully created the Gundam. Now let's mass produce them to trample Zeon! Fed. Politician: Sure but could you make a cheaper one? We can't afford all these Beam rifles and ball and chains for all of them. Ooh and paint them red, it will get rid of our stock of red paint. General: Won't that make them easier to hit. Fed. Politician: No, it will make them Badass like the Red Comet. Which I'm sure our pilots with zero experience with Mobile suits can handle" and that's how it went.

    • @matthewbrune5490
      @matthewbrune5490 3 года назад +2

      Eeegh, taking the Federations decisions in the sequel series' I gotta agree with you. Also I just have to say UFP>EF

  • @Moeflyer6213
    @Moeflyer6213 6 месяцев назад +4

    "The legs are just decorations, the top brasses won't understand that."
    - A Zeon MS engineer.

    • @passingrando6457
      @passingrando6457 2 месяца назад

      Except the engineer was wrong. Legs in a MS provide AMBAC, giving mobile suits their trademark agility. Sticking legs on the Zeong wouldn't have improved the speed, but it would have improved its agility, allowing the Zeong to make faster turns and changes in direction.

    • @EEE2431.-
      @EEE2431.- 24 дня назад

      ​@@passingrando6457No. It will double in weight with legs and good luck maneuvering with that

    • @passingrando6457
      @passingrando6457 24 дня назад

      @@EEE2431.- Except that is explicitly how they work in the lore.
      I didn't say it was necessarily how it would shake out in real life (where mobile suits would all be horrendously impractical), but it _is_ accurate to how MSes work in universe.

    • @EEE2431.-
      @EEE2431.- 24 дня назад

      @@passingrando6457 the doubled weight doesn't really help with agility since you need much more thrust to turn. There is a reason why zaku is 50ish tons and this thing is 420 tons

  • @sidjtd
    @sidjtd 3 года назад +42

    I’m pretty sure that Perfect Zeong’s “Gundam head Ball” story is not only not canon, but actually a comedy comic

    • @andrejg4136
      @andrejg4136 3 года назад +14

      That's why it has the jovial music behind it.

    • @Zeromaru42
      @Zeromaru42 2 года назад +8

      It's canon in our hearts damn it.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 года назад +3

      Hence him saying supposedly and dismissing it at the end. He knows it's a joke like Skippy

  • @chinesemassproduction
    @chinesemassproduction 3 года назад +52

    I feel like the Zeong is often underappreciated by Japan and Sunrise. I always see Chars Red Zaku II get a lot of merchandise and attention when it was basically unable to even harm the Gundam. The Zeong flat out defeats it and I never see anything made for it besides Gunpla and maybe Gatcha toys. I feel like that implies most people don't watch past the first episode.

    • @bellablessings5410
      @bellablessings5410 3 года назад +4

      well there was also the robot damashii figure and the MSIA action figure, and I've seen some plushies and pillows, I think the Zeong have been getting a better push lately marketing wise especially with the impressive RG kit

    • @shaunmoreau5081
      @shaunmoreau5081 3 года назад +13

      It doesn't look as cool as the Zaku

    • @magatetus
      @magatetus 3 года назад +9

      It should have been painted red.

    • @magnatcleo2043
      @magnatcleo2043 3 года назад +17

      It's probably because it got so little screentime compared to most of the other suits he used, Like the Zaku II, Hyaku Shiki, and the Sazabi. He's had quite a lot of suits over the course of his life, so it's hard to put an equal spotlight on all of them.

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 2 года назад +3

      It tied. Wasn’t even a very convincing tie.

  • @GojiraFan-in9oo
    @GojiraFan-in9oo 3 года назад +8

    3:20 Is that only 1 of the sub pieces next to the Gundam?
    Yeah. HG Mechanics for this guy.

    • @kakarot197
      @kakarot197  3 года назад +8

      It most definitely is and HG Mechanics really needs to come back for the rest of the UC MAs

  • @Kenny_F91
    @Kenny_F91 3 года назад +10

    That Great Zeong looks like perfect one year war version of the Queen Mansa and the Kshatriya.

    • @franciscomedina7701
      @franciscomedina7701 3 года назад +4

      Sucks they never made a true HG or MG queen mansa. That would be a better kit then Kshatriya. And it’s much bigger.
      Mobile armor status 😎😎

    • @Kenny_F91
      @Kenny_F91 3 года назад +3

      @@franciscomedina7701 It has a simpler design, too. I feel that if they can make that work, they can make Kshatriya work, too.

  • @AH-is5yg
    @AH-is5yg 3 года назад +6

    I remember seeing the Zeong on the show. I remember Char manage to piloted it. It was the suit that destroyed Amuro's Gundam. If they more of these during the One Year War and these suits were given to Ace Pilots, they would have destroy Gundams.

  • @TheOneZytel
    @TheOneZytel 3 года назад +7

    A mobile suit splitting it limbs and head to which each part can move and attack by remote control?
    The only one I know that can do that perfectly would be the Turn X Gundam.
    Also, I thought the name Zeong was supposed to be a play on "Zeon G-undam" as to that this was the Zeons version of the popular mobile suit.

    • @Gumshoe08
      @Gumshoe08 3 года назад

      Turn X is *not* a gundam.

    • @LeinRa-Reaction
      @LeinRa-Reaction 3 года назад

      the first thing that popped to my mind when they mentioned the "split its parts then continue operation" thing is King Joe from Ultraman series. it has basically the same concept.

    • @sean.a.s7234
      @sean.a.s7234 5 месяцев назад

      I really like that theory on the Zeong's name, it even has a parody of the Gundam's v-fin with the ear antenna

  • @seawind930
    @seawind930 3 года назад +2

    With Mobile Armors and Giant MS it makes you wonder why they have Battleships anymore. I mean, they are just targets. Unless a Battleship can do half of what a Mobile armor can do they may as well retire them and just have refueling ships that hang back from the fighting.

    • @quandaledingle4127
      @quandaledingle4127 5 месяцев назад

      I mean... Ya gotta have a way to carry Mobile Suits/Armors around.

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 3 года назад +4

    I love when we get stuff like the YMS-06Z, stuff that was clearly designed not to actually fit into the aesthetic of the era but for a completely different timeline of toys. Love the design itself but the Psycommu Zaku looks like it belongs in Unicorn, not the original series.
    The all-range attack... [TURN-X INTENSIFIES]

  • @Zeriel00
    @Zeriel00 3 года назад +2

    Why you make this?!?! I don't want to spend 100$ on the new RG last shooting! Think of our wallets!

  • @rock117rx2
    @rock117rx2 3 года назад +5

    I absolutely love the What If units from the G Generation games.
    Though I completely forgot the Great Zeong was even a thing!

  • @FumaChiba
    @FumaChiba 11 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder how you feel about the Thunderbolt developments. I do think they change some of the canon with the decisions they've made but love how they've given attention and revitalized some older designs.

  • @afelias
    @afelias 3 года назад +1

    > Uses Kakarot197 as the code for a LootCrate purchase
    > Gets 197% off purchase
    > Gets the crate and 97% of the price returned to credit card
    Oh shit I didn't think that'd work

  • @funnimaomi7278
    @funnimaomi7278 3 года назад +2

    Bet

  • @MaxHDAvenger
    @MaxHDAvenger 3 года назад +5

    I support the Great Zeong just because of its look and gimmick

  • @wewyllenium
    @wewyllenium 3 года назад +3

    I imagine Okawara was splitting hairs when making these designs. All the logic that had to fit in the designs. No wonder he was happy designing stuff for X and wing :D

  • @comentnine1574
    @comentnine1574 3 года назад +1

    You know that the one thing zeon and nazi Germany have in common, they both developed weapons that simply didn’t have the resources to mass produce. If they had developed simple but easy to make vehicles/mobile weapons things may have been different.
    On a completely different note have you ever thought about making a video about fan made mobile suits either from fanfiction or deviant art?

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 3 года назад +5

    And in Wing G Unit a Gundam uses a similar concept.

  • @hitachicordoba
    @hitachicordoba 3 года назад +2

    As a SoCal former surfer, I lol'd at an MA named Brah-Bro

  • @Nehfarius
    @Nehfarius 3 года назад +1

    A few things Zeon needed to do if they wanted to win:
    1: Fire M'Quve. Nothing he did was any good for Zeon.
    2: Initiate the United Maintenance Plan sooner. Like, 'as soon as the Dom came out' sooner.
    3: With 2 done, look at some of the machines that didn't make it into mass-production, update them accordingly and give them another go(the Zudah especially would've proved good in space). Variants of these MS(the Gyan especially would be nice, the Eos especially) may then be produced as needed.
    4: Refit the large stockpile of amphibious mobile suits for use in space. No sense leaving them to rot, after all.

  • @Skycrusher
    @Skycrusher 3 года назад +1

    Thanks to Gundam Battle Assault 2 for the Playstation, I know about a quarter of what you're talking about.