PLEASE READ - EDIT: Super important but I forgot to document, the sigils DID have a multiplier but it was very small. The future update to fix the system added MORE multipliers. One note about Excalibur I forgot to mention wasn't super important but interesting to document so I'll pin it here Radial Javelin apparently dealt FULL damage to corpus and can proc bleeding status. Wave 1-4 Corpus crewman and MOA's have roughly 1200 total shields and HP which = to 1 Intensify radial javelin to exterminate them. With 69% Strength that's enough to kill eximus units in one cast. Excal's usually stood at D point and Spammed 4 and sustained via Trinity EV. Just extra tidbits. Credits - User Cidlmmacula
Gonna miss the ascension end room loot cave. Lowering my graphics settings and game resolution to minimum to have a chance of staying longer in the mission has got to be a once in the lifetime experience in Warframe
It was fun a couple times, but it made me fear I would see a bright light out of the corner of my eye quickly followed by the blast wave of my exploding PC
The Ascension loot cave and the sister dropping multiple arcanes really makes me think about the fact that DE will sometimes resurrect an old farm just to remove it inmediately. The Sister stuff made me feel deja vu because of how similar it was to Silver Grove specter farming, what was once my old plat farm around 2018.
Vid idea: A retrospective on the damage meta/meta weapons and loadouts through the years, kinda like that one maiming strike vid but with like Fang Prime at release and so on.
Oh god, the stories! You could also talk about famous bugs, like the OMNI-PROC. For those who didn't know, a specific hit in the 2H Sword stance would deal zero damage, but inflict EVERY status effect possible AT THE SAME TIME. Enemies back then would instantly die because they didn't know how to deal with having that many statuses applied at once.
Power farming was one of the key grinds in Old Warframe, especially with how grindy older systems were (Void keys, fusion cores, affinity etc) This incentivized players to squad up and optimize grinding or else grinding normally like we do now would take forever in the old sandbox era. Obviously through the years we were finally given optimal farms that didn't require maximum cooperation, and DE has essentially given us loot caves as staple modes
@@digitalhomic8155 Technically Xini Defense (Eris) Draco Interception (Ceres) E-Gate/Triton Excavation (Neptune/Venus) are the big ones, then via mirage, Void Interception turned into a cheese farm for 500+ Prime parts.
But you reviewed your own sources even after publication, which shows diligence! Many creators wouldn't even correct the mistake let alone acknowledge it lol
one of the intresting upsides of them implementing daily caps is when ever a lootcave or exploite shows up, it prevents breaking the market/progression. the one that one of the devs said in i think a video by someone im forgetting atm going over history of things that happened with the game, a exploite bug showed up for kdrive standing of interacting with the kdrive races over and over and would allow you to literally get the full amount of standing+(120k) in a single combo.
I would like to apologize to the 7 players I crashed out doing the ascension loot cave. I apologize, I was just trying to use my Dual Ichor incarnons..
Best for what? Only thing you can farm here its: A - credits (index still better) B - shards (useless. Almost everyone alredy has more shards they can spend) C - just usual loot from enemy like on any other mission Why someone spend hours to farm just "everyday loot" when you can spend this time farming event revards?
@@Dima666AirThere was a bug with the endo drop that made it drop more than it should’ve. So if you combine all of that together it becomes a good loot cave for upgrading mods that take a HORRENDOUS amount of endo.
So, I had started the playing Warframe before this came out, and actually met one of the pioneers of the Viver farm, EatmyDiction. He was a longtime player who was proud of knowing how the game worked and knowing how to break it. DE likely wouldn’t have known about this setup had he not shown Mogamu ( who was arguably the biggest Warframe content creator at the time ) the Viver setup while Mogamu was streaming. Had he not shown DE’s then Golden Boy this farm, it might have lasted much longer.
honestly my least fav loot cave nerf wave is one that still effects us to this day; Draco was herald to several nerfs we had LOS nerfs, enemy spawnrate nerfs, channeling ability nerfs, mesa nerfs, trinity nerfs, greedy pull nerfs, honestly i think it was kinda awful and i think that the frames that they nerfed still havent recovered in many ways (i will never forgive the channeling changes, nor the changes to mesa's ult)
I only know about viver due to shy's vid about it, one of the few vids where it was narrated seriously, unlike her usual persona, which made it memorable to me and made vivergate be like one of the dark history of warframe.
@@NovaUmbral i heard about the acrid being a actual good weapon at 1 point in the ancient past of warframe. i also heard that CC was god tier in the ancient times & booben was actually good*. its still creepy seeing such archeotech being used.
"Modless missions" is what I'm guessing you are talking about. They've only done it once and I've refused to go through it twice, just waited for the Prime version to come out.
Speaking of loot cave. The ascension mission was broken for a short time. The two small rooms at the end of the mission spat out infinite enemies, and because the Eximus jade unit spawns are buffed the loot that comes out of it is outrageous
i just wonder what the vision was here, y'know? I feel like before a certain point in warframe's lifetime they just kinda put stuff in the game all full of quality of life issues because they didn't think about how it'd actually feel to grind (e.g. this syndicate system, pets (i love unequipping my pet for no tangible reason just because i'm incubating a new one thank you so much steve), eidolons, thermal fractures, debt bonds pre-PT)
i didn't even know the syndicate's were uncapped for a period of time, i guess i took a longer break from the game than i thought i had. i'm not even sure what that last thing was in your video, not sure how effective that is if that's supposed to be solo mag? i'll stick to doing survivals.
I have in a short, but maybe in the future, not sure if people are okay with like 10 minute videos but we'll see (since a dedicated IO video wouldn't be that long)
Update 15 came to consoles at a later date, whereas E-Gate was discovered AFTER PS4 got the patch, hence that loot cave/exploit was better known. So since 15 came later, I think consoles got the improved syndicate system and didn't have to deal with the low gains and or viver might have been alterred to Hive mission as it came to consoles.
Just thinking about Warframe 2 gave me a heart attack lol, pls don't jinx it noone wants a minecraft 2 or league of legends 2, let warframe be warframe....
People farm for hours in "loot cave" just to farm credits and shard which already more than you can spent Also lose time wich can be used to farm event revards Then call it gratest loot cave So dumb Spend hours to get loot you can get on literally any other mission
Ascension wasn't the first time this games had a loot cave, and for some players it may be valuable for them to farm a rapid amount of credits and materials (endo) in a short time frame
@@NovaUmbral this. Not everyone in the game farms 24/7 or simply played long enough to not care about "mundane" loot. And this is the reason why I often give credits buff in the relay. My friend had to start a new account not long before cross-save went live, and it was a great insight on what are limiting factors for most neophytes, who are focused on progression. And funnily enough - it is craft time and daily limits (including only one MR per day), then credits, then resources. Affinity was never a problem, if you constantly equip something to level up. Even without busters you are almost done with leveling before the next batch is crafted with daily playing. Damn, even my credits almost went dry, when I decided to craft back stuff I have sold through 10 years of me playing the game because of slots. While my resource stash barely noticed it)
Im convinced DE has just given up. I'm a veteran from 2014, I'm okay with change, but im not okay with this game literally turning into Destiny 3. I quit that toxic bs for a commitment to Warframe and DE is magdumping their own feet while saying quietly that we're the problem. Edit: Jade was a horrible idea, remove the baby from her skin, nobody wanted this. Half us are uncomfortable as hell with this pregnant flying wash cloth It'll go back to being a solo only just so I don't have to look at her. Cry about it.
PLEASE READ - EDIT: Super important but I forgot to document, the sigils DID have a multiplier but it was very small. The future update to fix the system added MORE multipliers.
One note about Excalibur I forgot to mention wasn't super important but interesting to document so I'll pin it here
Radial Javelin apparently dealt FULL damage to corpus and can proc bleeding status. Wave 1-4 Corpus crewman and MOA's have roughly 1200 total shields and HP which = to 1 Intensify radial javelin to exterminate them. With 69% Strength that's enough to kill eximus units in one cast. Excal's usually stood at D point and Spammed 4 and sustained via Trinity EV. Just extra tidbits.
Credits - User Cidlmmacula
I'm still waiting for that Zephyr video Nova.
Gonna miss the ascension end room loot cave. Lowering my graphics settings and game resolution to minimum to have a chance of staying longer in the mission has got to be a once in the lifetime experience in Warframe
Damn so fun
It was fun a couple times, but it made me fear I would see a bright light out of the corner of my eye quickly followed by the blast wave of my exploding PC
Fr
@@Wooskii1 don't let your pc reach 10 stacks of blast dude
Never knew of that, sadge, wf players keep their gems 😂
The Ascension loot cave and the sister dropping multiple arcanes really makes me think about the fact that DE will sometimes resurrect an old farm just to remove it inmediately.
The Sister stuff made me feel deja vu because of how similar it was to Silver Grove specter farming, what was once my old plat farm around 2018.
As soon as you mentioned syndicates, the whole memory domino trail went down. Man what a time to be alive...
Vid idea: A retrospective on the damage meta/meta weapons and loadouts through the years, kinda like that one maiming strike vid but with like Fang Prime at release and so on.
Love that
Oh god, the stories!
You could also talk about famous bugs, like the OMNI-PROC.
For those who didn't know, a specific hit in the 2H Sword stance would deal zero damage, but inflict EVERY status effect possible AT THE SAME TIME. Enemies back then would instantly die because they didn't know how to deal with having that many statuses applied at once.
@@avalonfour8054 Loved that. Super fun.
The belly lootcave at the exit tunnel was bonkers, getting thousands of kps with dual icor, was quite fun:)
Its always when i decide its time to take a break
Lol same!
Never did mass farming but thanks to you i do recognize its value now in retrospect.
Power farming was one of the key grinds in Old Warframe, especially with how grindy older systems were (Void keys, fusion cores, affinity etc) This incentivized players to squad up and optimize grinding or else grinding normally like we do now would take forever in the old sandbox era. Obviously through the years we were finally given optimal farms that didn't require maximum cooperation, and DE has essentially given us loot caves as staple modes
@@NovaUmbraland those lootcaves are? Sorry idk them :(
@@digitalhomic8155 Technically Xini Defense (Eris) Draco Interception (Ceres) E-Gate/Triton Excavation (Neptune/Venus) are the big ones, then via mirage, Void Interception turned into a cheese farm for 500+ Prime parts.
We. Meet. Again.
Ugh I just realized a few "sources" I typo'd the word Source..... that's embarrassing.....
But you reviewed your own sources even after publication, which shows diligence! Many creators wouldn't even correct the mistake let alone acknowledge it lol
Their was a glitch where there were 5 players with no stalker lol.
Heard that some1 got to 6 players in a mission once
one of the intresting upsides of them implementing daily caps is when ever a lootcave or exploite shows up, it prevents breaking the market/progression. the one that one of the devs said in i think a video by someone im forgetting atm going over history of things that happened with the game, a exploite bug showed up for kdrive standing of interacting with the kdrive races over and over and would allow you to literally get the full amount of standing+(120k) in a single combo.
I would like to apologize to the 7 players I crashed out doing the ascension loot cave. I apologize, I was just trying to use my Dual Ichor incarnons..
1:19 Aspects and Fragments …
I know what you did there
Belly of the best loot cave also have been fixed. RIP
Was good while it lasted :p
It was the best loot cave because it was literally a cave with loot
Best for what? Only thing you can farm here its:
A - credits (index still better)
B - shards (useless. Almost everyone alredy has more shards they can spend)
C - just usual loot from enemy like on any other mission
Why someone spend hours to farm just "everyday loot" when you can spend this time farming event revards?
@@Dima666AirThere was a bug with the endo drop that made it drop more than it should’ve. So if you combine all of that together it becomes a good loot cave for upgrading mods that take a HORRENDOUS amount of endo.
I was getting over 3k Endo per run I wish I would of just stayed up all night
7:30 now you can just go have fun in duviri arcane portals and you're maxed in no time due to eximus spam and being hilariously busted.
So, I had started the playing Warframe before this came out, and actually met one of the pioneers of the Viver farm, EatmyDiction. He was a longtime player who was proud of knowing how the game worked and knowing how to break it. DE likely wouldn’t have known about this setup had he not shown Mogamu ( who was arguably the biggest Warframe content creator at the time ) the Viver setup while Mogamu was streaming. Had he not shown DE’s then Golden Boy this farm, it might have lasted much longer.
Dicey Dungeons OST?! Based
honestly my least fav loot cave nerf wave is one that still effects us to this day; Draco was herald to several nerfs
we had LOS nerfs, enemy spawnrate nerfs, channeling ability nerfs, mesa nerfs, trinity nerfs, greedy pull nerfs, honestly i think it was kinda awful and i think that the frames that they nerfed still havent recovered in many ways (i will never forgive the channeling changes, nor the changes to mesa's ult)
High quality as always. Keep it up ❤
I only know about viver due to shy's vid about it, one of the few vids where it was narrated seriously, unlike her usual persona, which made it memorable to me and made vivergate be like one of the dark history of warframe.
i just saw a booben using an acrid in this video! ... what unholy eldritch blasphemic secret magics hav i witnessed?!?
Back in the day acrid was a top tier weapon and Vauban was excellent for defense missions and endless grinding
@@NovaUmbral i heard about the acrid being a actual good weapon at 1 point in the ancient past of warframe. i also heard that CC was god tier in the ancient times & booben was actually good*. its still creepy seeing such archeotech being used.
"Modless missions" is what I'm guessing you are talking about. They've only done it once and I've refused to go through it twice, just waited for the Prime version to come out.
first minuter les gooo. love your videos. please keep delivering the premium content
-A fan
ascension almost killed my PC before the enemy spawn nerf but was so much fun XD
Speaking of loot cave. The ascension mission was broken for a short time. The two small rooms at the end of the mission spat out infinite enemies, and because the Eximus jade unit spawns are buffed the loot that comes out of it is outrageous
6:23 Where does that Natah display come from?
it is a pax card i believe
i just wonder what the vision was here, y'know? I feel like before a certain point in warframe's lifetime they just kinda put stuff in the game all full of quality of life issues because they didn't think about how it'd actually feel to grind (e.g. this syndicate system, pets (i love unequipping my pet for no tangible reason just because i'm incubating a new one thank you so much steve), eidolons, thermal fractures, debt bonds pre-PT)
That d1 clip tho (bet that was a Hawksaw)
Saw the thumbnail and my brain just screamed “Draco!” immediately 😂
What was the name of the thing at 4:26 ?
You mean goon cave
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Wow no wonder enemies kept on spawning there so much sucks it got patched
i didn't even know the syndicate's were uncapped for a period of time, i guess i took a longer break from the game than i thought i had. i'm not even sure what that last thing was in your video, not sure how effective that is if that's supposed to be solo mag? i'll stick to doing survivals.
Like this comment to mourn the pre-patch Ascension. I had some of the most fun I have ever had in Warframe due to that tomfoolery.
All I do is farm Plat now, literally nothing left to do between content dumps
W content as always bro
What is he talking about at 1:26 ????????
So THESE guys are responsible for interception being so hard!
Can’t wait till the Loot cave in First descendants is documented.
Where you get Nyx Prime and the original cat lady prime(forget the name)?
Nyx prime relics is from rj cat lady khora should drop normally if not vaulted
@@dankmemes8254 thank. Other relics besides Nyx prime is on rj?
@@dankmemes8254He said original cat lady so valkyr not khora
Isnt that a tonkor, not a braton?
Will you ever cover old IO? i played that map so much.
I have in a short, but maybe in the future, not sure if people are okay with like 10 minute videos but we'll see (since a dedicated IO video wouldn't be that long)
Huh, never did Iver when it was a thing, PS4 didn't get the word?
Update 15 came to consoles at a later date, whereas E-Gate was discovered AFTER PS4 got the patch, hence that loot cave/exploit was better known. So since 15 came later, I think consoles got the improved syndicate system and didn't have to deal with the low gains and or viver might have been alterred to Hive mission as it came to consoles.
It's a sin how many people don't know what you mean when you say 'Draco was the best Affinity farm'
¿Explica por favor?
Genuinely don’t want warframe 2 unless I can transfer my assets
Rip trade ban 😔
ngl seeing Bagus' clickbait title of 'I QUIT Warframe for Destiny 2' makes me not want to check out their channel at all
This video is about to go viver
I can't finish these missions. They always crash half way through
Looks Braton enough
what is Loot Cave?
wowowo, hold on, corpus give more exp?
They took it from meeee!!!
your newest video got copyright taken down in the us
its the VOD for the latest stream, yeah I'll look into it
the easier exp spot now is sanctuary onslaught
steel meridian being my biggest hater next to new loka since 2014
Abuse early, abuse often
I was there
Just thinking about Warframe 2 gave me a heart attack lol, pls don't jinx it noone wants a minecraft 2 or league of legends 2, let warframe be warframe....
Atlas video please
I came for e gate
trully the game of all time
Hey there's fun in our game!! Better nerf it out.
Could of cut the first 3 minutes of preamble. Felt like you were trying to reach a word count on an essay
People farm for hours in "loot cave" just to farm credits and shard which already more than you can spent
Also lose time wich can be used to farm event revards
Then call it gratest loot cave
So dumb
Spend hours to get loot you can get on literally any other mission
Ts why i didn't farm the loot cave, was fun but legendary arcanes are more important than shards and credits
@@MagikarpMan exactly
Ascension wasn't the first time this games had a loot cave, and for some players it may be valuable for them to farm a rapid amount of credits and materials (endo) in a short time frame
@@NovaUmbral this. Not everyone in the game farms 24/7 or simply played long enough to not care about "mundane" loot.
And this is the reason why I often give credits buff in the relay.
My friend had to start a new account not long before cross-save went live, and it was a great insight on what are limiting factors for most neophytes, who are focused on progression. And funnily enough - it is craft time and daily limits (including only one MR per day), then credits, then resources. Affinity was never a problem, if you constantly equip something to level up. Even without busters you are almost done with leveling before the next batch is crafted with daily playing.
Damn, even my credits almost went dry, when I decided to craft back stuff I have sold through 10 years of me playing the game because of slots. While my resource stash barely noticed it)
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Im convinced DE has just given up.
I'm a veteran from 2014, I'm okay with change, but im not okay with this game literally turning into Destiny 3. I quit that toxic bs for a commitment to Warframe and DE is magdumping their own feet while saying quietly that we're the problem.
Edit: Jade was a horrible idea, remove the baby from her skin, nobody wanted this. Half us are uncomfortable as hell with this pregnant flying wash cloth It'll go back to being a solo only just so I don't have to look at her. Cry about it.
Only one person crying here lol.
Lame quest, lame frame design. DE could've played around concious/unconcious with Stalker, but of course it had to be another teen-grade lovestory.
Don't know how you get uncomfortable playing a fictional pregnant woman but you do you i guess
This isn't even a Jade related video, lmao