I want to apologize for showing potential spoilers of the game, I figured it would be fine since most of the audience for this video are either new players who wouldn't make anything of them or vets who know all about them, but it's still a mistake and I'm sorry everyone, hope the video was at least solid 😎 I'm also obligated to pin the link to starforge so please consider supporting me by clicking the link here : starforgepc.com/evanf1997
@@slamdunk6739 As a longtime player it's always an unspoken rule to not mention the Second Dream. As years of past it's been harder and harder to not spoil it for newbies, even the devs have kinda embraced it. But still, going in blind and experiencing the Second Dream is one of those top tier gaming moments if you have zero context. Though the game now has enough surprised outside of that that still make the story worth it.
the main diference between warframe anddestiny is. warframe isnt afraid to fail. they dont look at an update and think "will this bring in engagement". they look at something and say, "hey wouldnt it be cool if we had capital ships and expanded space battles, allowing you to steal enemy ships, kinda like a black flag in space? " does it work all the time? no, if anything, they miss just as much as they hit. but you can feel how much they are more interested into offering cool stuff, above what is garanteed return on investment. there's the infamous bungie tedtalk about lets not overdeliver, lets treat it like a train station. meanwhile here's de they go the completely opposite way, "hey, lets add skate boards, and bikes, and flight packs and capital ships, and a rogue like, and not 1 but 3 completely diferent customizable zones. lets add weapons that are so broken, players will ask themselves why would i even bother play anything else, and then, see them optmize them to become even more broken... so lets now raise the bar on all other weapons to at least give them a fighting chance to be used. and every now and then you will see videos about how "this is the new op thing to get", only for someone in the comments to say, dude, that thing has been a powerhouse since forever, how did you not know about it yet? warframe is not worried about the bottom line. the only bottom they are worried about, is the ones they add to the frames to make them more curvy. because warframe will give some GYAT energy to frames, regardless if they are male or female. warframe is not a game afraid of having its cake and eating it too. and yes, im using cake in "that" way.
I feel like when they fail, they also try to improve that idea and often succeed in improving it into something good. Other companies tend to scrap stuff if it wasn't received well from the beginning or they brute force it in its bad shape.
@@nihzit8185 they will also revisit stuff to try and fix it, from time to time. i think only pvp, the raids and lunaro that they given up, but who knows, maybe next year they will anounce something that will make those things shine out of nowhere.
@@marcosdhelenoI think they could completely revamp both the Conclave/Lunaro if they simply did a “Grinneer vs Corpus” kind of thing, people where talking about it when the New War trailers first came to be when we got the chance to play as Kahl and Veso, just simply pit us against each other as the factions, at least it would be more interesting than what we have now
@@KaiserReb You're probably right, maybe Lotus Eaters and the Unannounced 2023 Update will do something since we will see some QoL Updates and other things
@@KaiserReb That game was cooked(i assume you are using the negative implication of that term, cus some people use it as a positive term as well) when it launched, its just a worse version of destiny and warframe smashed together. Gameplay is super boring, no melee, super heavy grind, super generic story, no tradeable currency to circumvent the huge grinds for the Prime Descendants. This is all from launch so if they reduced the grind, it may be a more tolerable but still vastly inferior version of Warframe.
@@Koranthus Even if they reduce the grind the new player experience will be horrible. There is little to no reason to revisit open world missions. Every single encounter on the worldmap you do as part of the story is meant for a group of 2+ players. There is no solo mode as far as i could tell. New players will be doing it solo in a dead world. Pair that with the difficulty scaling vs player power and new players will be dying on basic open world activities unless they build craft from the start. I was only a week late for release and I already experienced the dead world partially. I played warframe I know the mod system. If I was completely new I would probably just rage quit because there is no way you will not handicap yourself without prior knowledge of how it works. Not every mission has stuff you will always need as a drop and some of them are so bad you never want to do them again. I would rather ignore friends than go back and to the orb collecting bs missions again. And i did that crap solo it is horrible. People will quit more and faster than they do in warframe unless they solve this somehow.
They should just say it at beginning of the game ... because when you start it at first it is a confusing mess. I am a returning player and I am lost ...
Speaking of out of touch CEOs, the CEO of the devs literally posts weekly dev shorts where they show off what they've been working on in the game and personally answer players questions. There is also a monthly devstream where the department heads talk about major game updates and events. And weekly the devs will stream themselves playing the game and personally engage in community content like builds, strats, dojos, fanart, etc.
Fun fact: The frost specter on the mars junction was so overpowered and difficult that he had to be changed to the Loki specter, I still remember getting bullied by him ☺️
I love Warframes resource system. Warframe is the only live service game that managed to keep old resources and keep ALL resources viable for the rest of the game. Even the most trash resource will end up being useful Any piece of loot you get can be used
even the resources that no longer have recipes (nav coordinates, orokin ciphers) can be feed to the Helminth like who comes up with that genius idea. (also who comes up with the whole "pink zit-popping infested dentist chair" in the first place)
Generally speaking, the warframe community tries very hard to NOT spoil the existence of the operator as it makes the second dream much less impactful. Also Raids were removed because they were very buggy and DE was tired of trying to iron them out, so they just removed them. There was two raid missions, the second one was very buggy.
also barely anyone played those raids and honestly i personally didn't find them that great. lot of babysitting and telling people on what button to stand.
@@FrancisYorkMorganFBI oh I remember that alottt I used to run with a group who had them down to a science. Sadly even the rewards back then were lackluster, it was more a sorta fun thing to do.
The big difference of Warframe's "you can buy everything with real money" is that the premium currency (plat) is easily obtained in-game. There are multiple different ways to grind your Warframes. I spend most of my time in Warframe grinding rare mods and arcanes to sell to other players who don't want to grind for those things, so I don't ever have to worry about grinding out Prime parts from relics. I just buy the parts from other players using the plat I made as soon as the update launches.
Can you build "wealth" in this game and trade for the premium currency? I always liked doing that in Fallout 76. Stockpile common stuff like ammo and trade it for great/rare stuff.
@@shadyrebob5999yes a good amount of the playerbase has never even spent money on platinum and still been able to fully experience the game with only minor drawbacks
@@shadyrebob5999 you can 100% do that like in f76. The last time I bought a platinum pack was almost a year ago. Since then I've made all my platinum through trade with other players
The clan system in Warframe is like 50 years ahead of D2. You can create some incredibly epic scenes in your dojo and DE feature them all the time, at the same time in D2 clans dont even get a new seasonal flag.
@@godzelda123 And then there's my clans dojo...with a statue of Loki with a massive set of balls and a huge dong pissing out white colored water as the centerpiece of one of the rooms. I'm not complaining. It's a work of art.
My Clan's Dojo even have an grave hall built in, its reserved for important members that dissapeared (never logged again) or any member that has been confirmed deceased irl.
Warframe, due to it's complexity I imagine, doesn't appear to attract the toxic, jock element that Destiny does. The community also seems to be a lot more friendly and patient. Both bonuses right from the start. After 7000 hours of Destiny, I'm looking forward to getting stuck into Warframe.
@@Hawk-Eye-bs2hr If Bungie had decided from the conception of D2 to separate the PVE and PVP sandboxes, that would be a nonfactor. It says a lot that Warframe, a game so poorly balanced for PVP that they literally gave up on it, has a defined separation between PVE and PVP sandboxes...while Destiny 2, a game that tried to establish itself in eSports, only started to separate the sandboxes years after the game was at all relevant in the eSports community. So much missed potential in Destiny 2 that it's actually depressing to think about.
@@giancarloortiz9236 honestly every game should completely separate the 2, it only hurts the PvE experience when you have to balance your class fantasy against another for PvP reasons. Its the reason WoW could never add pure support classes into the game and why after Cataclysm a lot of classes felt the same because its hard to balance this really cool ability that's a great team support in a raid against another class that doesn't have it because they do something else. I imagine Warframe would have failed if they tried to keep their game balanced in PvP because most of the fun on Warframe is how stupidly broken you can amplify warframes and weapons to do things that make sense to random NPC enemies but would lead to absolute dominance in PvP.
Ive only experienced a few bad apples who thinks that low mr players are bad and can't have an opinion cause might makes right, everyone else in my squad defended us and made the toxic guy leave. 100 hours and only 1 toxic person is crazy good
Meanwhile, God of War Ragnarok on PC is a colossal 190gb. For a single player game you'll finish in 10-15 hours. And Black Ops 6 is an absolutely gargantuan 300gb. Game devs, not everyone lives right near the city with easy access to fiber internet and even if we did, storage devices don't grow on trees. I'm just waiting for the day companies start selling games on external SSDs because file sizes have gotten completely out of control.
Funnily enough Warframe is more similar to Monster Hunter than Destiny. You can progress story missions with little to 0 "Grinding". Instead of having a decent Light Level before going into a new mission. And after finishing the story added till the latest patch (exp. Fatalis for MHI and 1999 for Warframe) you have the same things to do: - Help new players - Find perfect farmable drip - Farm only the things you desire (They will be all thanks to the sense of completionism) - Indulge into the supplementary Lore and Art like the Serious Handler or Wisp ASSets.
@@jakoblopez5691 true. But Warframe is a Live service that grows thanks to micro transactions, monster hunters are always games done and finished. All the events missions World and Rise have (plus the collaboration with other games like The Witcher 3, Devil may cry are free). Mh dlcs exist only to not release a new game like they used too in order to keep History, Map and Gameplay now separated by game (A little like Warframe is gonna do with the new born Soulsframe). And they are already preparing Monster Hunter Wilds, wich seem to have taken all the critics from Rise (that was a Switch exclusive) and returned to a more "realistic" and "heavy" gameplay like World.
@@evanf1997 Wilds will be a good time to get into Monster Hunter. Otherwise as one streamer I follow has said, "so I decided to go full time content creation during the largest drought the franchise has ever seen."
@@SaltSpirits the players made the developers waste money and developers on a separate game and put out subpar expansions that have been critically panned across the board? Wow, Destiny players have a lot of power. Its been sinking since D2 launched, they just keep enough water out of the bobber to stay above water and they finally hit their limit. Go watch any "what went wrong" videos for the game even before final shape and everyone will tell you the game would basically release a good expansion and then do a bunch of subpar or badly implemented shit and a bad expansion and then barely salvage another good expansion when MTX numbers were looking poor.
There should be a rather large spoiler warning right at the beginning of the video. The playerbase prefers keeping the major story moments secret. Duviri Paradox really isnt a good alternate start as it causes immediate confusion and damages some large reveals. Most of the games bosses are ancient relics and are being updated.
This i was wondering like wait he spoiled a good part of the game talking about the Op but l guess you'll get those that'll say games been out for years so it's ok.
Duviri being accessible so early always bugged me, it also highlighted a problem I’ve had for years revolving newer warframes I miss when it was a huge mystery for new people what a Warframe was and what was inside it, was it a person wearing a suit? Are we machines? Then a new person could take one look at Xaku, Dagoth or Citrine and go “Okay there clearly arent people in there.” it kinda saddens me new people miss out on that intrigue we used to have way back when.
War frame if I’m being doesn’t really have the market that D2 has/had. Sure many RUclipsrs might try it out n play it again but it won’t be long until they move to something else can’t really make content off of warframe, but it is a joy to play
@@cryxbaby2250tbf, most player that aren't content creators give up early. So them being gatekept from the start makes it less toxic. But that's not to say Warframe players can't get toxic. So seeing a Destiny player being toxic is nothing sort of a problem cause that's on them for a problem to occur
@aiaoi5048 yet Warframe has been able to keep the game size around 30-40ish gbs. Which, i would love to know how they do it cuz it seems like magic to me
@@MyaMore-cb7zb I love how he's basically a Capture mission lol, It would be cool if they made us Hunt down the current sergeant, to get a like, a passkey to open a door for the real room, Kind of like the treasurers (Also funny that they have more Unique attacks than an actual boss lol)
First descendant is fun but it is no Warframe killer. Basically if you like first descendant, play around with it for a bit as it functions as a Warframe light. And follow it up with a similar game that has way more depth, mechanics and fun gameplay loops. Also their tagline is "Ninjas play free" and for good reason. Platinum is the premium currency but is tradeable with other players, so if you don't wanna invest real money but are OK with investing time than you can make money in game by trading.
Saw you mining on Deimos that one stream only to encounter the same problem when I eventually got there. Sharing pain is one way to truly understand another person lol.
I ran into someone in region chat that needed some purified heciphron to build their Necramech...since I had a bunch sitting around collecting dust, I traded it to him.
I gave some of my primes to my friend since she just started and I didn’t need them and she literally asked if it was normal and I was just making sure she had a fun time playing
i appreciate that some people thought because TFD ripped off the mod system and the "crafting a descendant" system from warframe that it was somehow going to steal the crowd that has spent a few hundred hours completeling customizing and building like 60 warframes. Like it was nice to try, but stealing 2 systems from a good game doesn't magically make it a good game, they still basically transplanted everything else from Destiny including a subpar story(i finshed the launch version of D1, you can say it got better later but considering that was basically all the game had besides 3 strikes and a raid, not a good look)
You mean the watered down, gooner slop version of Warframe with predatory Nexon behind it won't kill anything? Yeaaahhhh, of course it won't. Two years from now, it'll be a memory everyone laughs at.
As someone who enjoys both tfd and warframe, it's really not that bad, very over hated, it has a lot of potential neon just has to not f it up, which they so far seem to be doing a great job of so far
@@rjmacready6693 it is. There is like no one talking about warframe other than the warframe community. It basically untapped because there is so much to do not even a founder that is still playing today got everything accomplished or didnt do something they wanted to do
Community is a big part of warframe, and what I've found keeps the long time players going. Joining a community of players, or squading up with friends, is the true joy of the game, and why so many vets love finding videos of new players, tho we can be... overwhelming, that's very true
When they’re not banding them sure. Although the dives may respect their community, their moderators certainly don’t war frame has a horrific history with its in game moderators.
Hey, Warframe player here! Feel free to hop on board! We can't really guarantee if it'll scratch your Destiny itch but you're more than welcomed to stick around and have fun!
One fun bit of community connection: Reb Ford is the voice of the Lotus, and was a DE intern at the time. Now she's the creative director after years of being community manager. So now our Space Mom is also our Warframe Mom.
@@fotis3v480I mean true but also I get what Austin was meaning. He is getting out the point that a ton of the big destiny streamers are now joining the game.
Forcer, Mactics, Evanf? Is this the apocalypse for destiny or the golden age for warframe? Did you all collectively agree to come to start warframe in the same week?
Since the second layoffs and the announcement of the new content structure of destiny 2 a lot of people are seeing it (me included although I quit after lightfall) as the final nail in the coffin, and while warframe is not a replacement at all for destiny it is a very good game so I’m happy with the new eyes on it
It’s not a “destiny killer” it’s a similar but very different type of game. The same players might enjoy both games, but if you want to play a certain type of game, Warframe and Destiny don’t perfectly overlap.
Calling warframe the Destiny Killer is the same vein as calling Halo 1 the fortnite killer. Where the only similar thing is you shoot someone. and the fact that the other game is older. Technically wya older since Warframes roots go as far back as Dark sector.
way too many story spoilers for a video aimed at new warframe players.. saying to play through and enjoy the second dream as your reward and then proceeding to spoil the major plot twist of it 5 minutes later is not fair to new players who want to experience warframe's story for themselves
@@fotis3v480 Fuck off. It's the games biggest turning point story-wise. It's a moment that needs to be experienced blind. In fact it is so impactful that some of the biggest videos on youtube about this game are just new players playing the second dream, or a series of videos from one channel where they get more and more infatuated with the game until they hit the second dream and they realise they haven't even scraped the surface yet. Warframe players enjoy watching people experience the game for the first time, for good reason.
where does this say its for new players lol? title says "warframe for someone whos played destiny" so him.. this is more a impressions video of his exp.. why wouldnt there be spoilers? yall whining just to whine.
9:34 The DLCs are all cosmetic, none of them add storyline or depth. Another thing to note: most of these DLCs are also temporary as they are simply compliments and/or a way to skip grind on the "upgraded" variants of frames that the base version of has already been out in game (Say Sevagoth Prime access pack is in the store, Sevagoth himself has been available for some time now and is obtainable without purchase).
it took me 120+ hours to finish the tutorial. an additional 560+ to reach the endgame. another 50+ something hours to understand the endgame. it was all worth it too
What would you consider to be endgame? Personally I think entering endgame is unlocking steel path and beginning the arbitration, archon hunts and eidolon farming while progressing SP, while “true” endgame activities are netracels and the other activity that uses netracel attempts and personal goal of going level cap.
@@strauss_ as of right now i guess it would be steel path, EDA and maybe even netracells. since they give the latest big rewards(archon shards and arcanes). eidolons used to be the endgame on release til we all figured out how to solo them. especially now with necramechs your build doesn't even matter all to much. i even remember DE pushing sorties as endgame back in the day once rivens released. but power creep eventually made those super easy as well.
took me around 2200 hours to unlock SP earlier this year, and even still, today at around 2500 hours, i havent done a single Eidolon hunt, started early 2013, so have seen the improvements through the years
Meanwhile, there's me who still doesn't have a Tigris Prime after hours upon hours upon hours of soul sucking grind. Now it's vaulted, so I can never complete it and all the parts and blueprints I do have are basically worthless.
@@qu1253 You can still get vaulted items by trading with other players. Vaulted weapons and frames also come back regularly through resurgence so you can grind them out that way if trading isn't your thing.
@@qu1253 A quite simple solution is to farm relics. Sell the rewards for plat and then using that plat to buy tigris prime on warframe market. Wisp prime set cost me like 40 plat. Just checked Tigris Prime SET is going for 45-50 Plat rn.
As both a warframe and D2 player. They are both not the same or even slightly similar when it comes to reward feedback. It baffles me everytime someone makes the comparison. Maybe because they are both space grind games?
Honestly iv no idea how anyone can draw comparisons from both games, played destiny since d1 release and picked up Warframe about 4-5 weeks ago and they couldn’t be any more different.
1:59, also, Warframe itself can be a VERY intimidating game, especially 2(i think, before they revamped the beginning quests, I think Duviri update) years ago. It has SO much, and little actual guide. My advice for anyone starting out: explore and develop your star-chart. The more areas you unlock, the more quests you can do, the more stuff you can make, the more levels you can earn, the more idea you can have of what you want to do. However, with that all said, Warframe is VERY rewarding (as he mentions). I like this because it's only rewarding to those who are focused, so it rewards patience and determination (on a neural level). Speaking of neural levels, this game is very intuitive with it's emotional building blocks (ik a weird theme for it being a looter shooter).
As a destiny player who moved over after shadowkeep, Warframe is one of those games that is enjoyable depending on the person, it won’t have the cool and challenging gunfights like destiny but it has a lot of systems and aspects that are great with a lot of depth. The only real downside is the grind and confusion on what to do but honestly with how favorable and fair the monetization is and how nice the devs are along with the passion they put into the game, the future of Warframe looks really bright and I’m happy I moved over to it.
I also just got to the part with the buying everything part, you can buy almost everything but honestly it’s not worthwhile to do it unless it’s a frame where the grind is unbearable (ash). You can start trading early on and build a small wealth of plat pretty easily and midway through when you get to the high level content you can start making plat very easily through grinding for arcanes or gathering semi-rare mods
Just got to the mention of raids too, those were removed primarily due to them being extremely buggy spaghetti fests that were built for when Warframe didn’t have the systems we have now and was much simpler, the devs have said they’ll add them back eventually but it’s been a while so there’s hope
I know one of my favorite videos relating to warframe is one along the lines of “Every 15 seconds the game changes, but it’s still Warframe” genuinely so interesting to see how different this game is. Fire game
The first descendant killing warframe is beyond hilarious they're quite different and as you basically said yourself the vets are part of the cult 😂❤ warframe honestly will most likely be alive for a very VERY long time. They dont care that much about money the only "money related controversy" we've had was with steel essence and kuva but DE basically accepted that they can't control the in-game market and stopped trying. They care about their players and their game not their wallets, there's not many games/teams you can say that about either. Warframe will always have a soft spot in my heart and i will alwys play it. I was an AVID Destiny and Destiny 2 player I played both since release. I stopped playing Destiny 2 about a year ago because I was tired of the BS, constant ignorance, no PVP updates, the stupid ass seasons, and the $60 expansions once a year. I felt lost for 6-8 months bouncing back and four from game to game and then remembered Warframe a couple months ago right before all the destiny players came over. I fell in love all over again and was so excited for all the new content mods and warframes, I've now been consistently playing for a couple months at least 20+ hours a week, AND IM STILL USING WEAPONS FROM 5 YEARS AGO, I'm an absolute blast man, my alliance the other day told me i should switch off the ignis wraith and not waste my plat on a riven for it, but that doesnt matter for me. I have an extremely neice playstyle and my favorite warframe is probably the least played one Gyre, but in the past couple months I've been able to build her, my ignis wraith, and epitaph up to where I can literally delete entire rooms of enemies by walking into them and toasting a single eximus for like 2 seconds. This game is absolutely amazing and golden. Long live the tenno, long live the warframe!!!!
As someone who played almost as much Warframe (around 3-4k hours) that I did with with destiny (4-5k) Don't worry about starting. The game is MASSIVE, the lore is incredible and had one of the best reveal in the gaming industry. So much that nobody snitched or spoiled it. it just need a try. So wake up Tenno, the Sol system is waiting for you.
The phrase "Ninjas play free" quite litterally encompasses all that is warframe. Aside from Tennogen, you can get EVERY (available) item just by playing the game. You can trade for Platinum and use that to "Boost" yourself or purchase frames that might be a bit grindy to farm (Kullervo & Dagath for example). Every 2 weeks the Void trader (Baro Ki'teer) comes to a relay (community hub) where he sells some limited mods/ weapons & cosmetics... and a quest for one of the warframes. You don't ever have to spend a single cent, but you will feel inclined to do so, not out of necessity, but out of respect.. given that you've made it past ~100 hours playing (If you've been around this long, you've gotten more playtime on a free game, than anything Ubisoft has sold to date). And let's not even talk about login Discounts... you can get up to 75% off on a Platinum purchase, which brings a $200 pack down to $50... it's still a lot, but you're getting 4x your money's worth (compared to destiny 2... yeah, WF wins on that one).... also, no yearly expansion purchases... suck it Bungie. Yes warframe is a bit grindy, but it's simple once you go to the IN GAME LFG chat, if you just "ask" for advice, 9/10 times you will get flooded with helpful comments & folks willing to grind with you. There may also be a troll or 2, which makes for really absurd & funny moments. The best part imo, is that your session is local (if you are the host/ playing solo), otherwise, the game targets the member with the best/ most stable connection to act as the host. There is almost no lag (but when there is, it can be a pain, if you for example join a guy playing on his fridge with a 1Mbps connection)... but the thing is... that crappy connection, does not prevent you from enjoying the game solo... unlike Destiny or TFD. I've spent quite a few grand on Warframe, and just like PoE, they're purchases I feel are 100% worth it, and no regrets. I might not play every single day now, but it's the one game on my pc that's been on it for the 11 Years I've been playing. And the absolute best part.... you can play all of the main quest missions to this day, unlike the Red War in D2... heck, you can even replay/ restart those missions if you wanna experience it again. I love Warframe, I love DERebecca, DESteve and DEMegan... I love PrimeTime on Fridays (for me at least)... I've seen them succeed, and I've seen them thank Mr. Nick Gurr live... The game feels more like a family, than a hassle to play. If you ever feel overwhelmed, all you need to do, is ask someone. "What is love?"
When you mention the first descendant and say Warframe has similar systems, you missed the cost differences, which are significant. But also, in Warframe you can earn premium currency by trading with other players. This is unique in games as a whole as far as I know.
One of the single best things about Warframe is the fact that you don’t have to spend ANY money at all to get the premium currency, it’s an entirely opt-in system. I may not agree with some of the leadership’s politics but it’s undeniable they made a brilliant game with them actually listening to the community that support them.
I think one thing warframe does SO MUCH better than destiny is community engagement. I don't think I have ever seen a system similar to the Tennogen system in warframe. The sheer fact that the community can make skins and ALL the money goes straight to the creator's pocket is absolutely insane and genuinely a fantastic idea. It rewards creators and people who want to make in game cosmetics and give them some money on the side.
a fun note if one has not figured it out yet. The Lotus is the creative director of the game, The VA for the character is Rebb Ford. So if you see people call her mom or spacemom that is why because space mom is the nickname of the Lotus.
Primary takeaway about Warframe monetization- You don’t need to buy plat you can use in game trade and sell rare loot to players for plat… once first descendant does this I’ll consider going back to it
Trade > get some black platinum from jerk > get banned by DE forever cuz they don’t care that you couldn’t know that THIS plat from RANDOM PLAYER is BLACK plat DE: trade at your own risk we don’t care we ban you anyway
7:14 Warframe was once very sluggish, we abused the momentum some slideattacks would grant us midair to "copter" from A to B. But instead of nerfing it like bungie did with eagers edge, they morphed it into the now known bulletjump birthing new movement techs. DE isnt flaweless but that was stellar.
I picked up Warframe after the disappointment that was lightfall, and I'm so happy to see the recent influx of former D2 players hopping on to try out the game. Hope y'all are enjoying this *actual* Free to play title lol
tried it years ago... the first 20 hours when u play ALONE are biggest shit i have ever seen... still dont have a clue what i am doing there no clues no hints no red line u can hop on and just play... mod and upgrade system is too complex especially when u are a beginner... wepaons? what weapons when u choose wrong u have to play a shitty bow for a long time... and u have 2 option per weapon slot at the start of ur journey.... for the first 20 hours it is a real pain for a destiny 2 veteran with more than 13k hours... i was open minded but i had the feeling that the game doesn't want me to tell how to play this in a cerain way... the only 2 things that was fun at the beginning are the movement adn the fact thate nemies at the stzart a re so low u can one hit kill them with ur catana ... but when u reach a certain point in the story on other planets u have to work the bow that u choose wrong .... in the end a nice game... performance was good... but a big lack of guiding new players.... back to destiny for me...
@@KHorN32KHarN3 When I first played warframe I was like 15. It was much harder, more grindier and all than now. Not to mention the lack of wiki or content, there wasn't even a codex with every weapon in game. So, maybe it's just not for you? If you don't try by yourself to play the actual game, it wont beg you to do so.. That's the thing with Warframe.
I remember people were having problems with Missions like Exterminations because the map would spawn the exact amount of enemies you need to kill, to complete the mission. The issue with that, was that players would have to scour the entire map to find the last guy, and he'll either be running into a wall, or stuck IN a wall. To remedy this, the devs made it so that enemies constantly spawn in.
4:40 Dont worry mate, most of us dislike the people who try to railroad new players into the "intended way" too. If I were to say what the "intended way is", its to grab a buddy or three (preferably atleast one who knows the game) and playing the way you like (we all pray for new player experience improvements) Anyways, asidee from the potential spoilers (Which you already apologized for), I think your video is spot on - Warframe has its weaknesses and strengths, but you can clearly tell it was the labor of love and years every step of fthe way
The "intended" way changes depending on what you're doing. I'd say do the starchart by yourself because that's when you get to really get a feel for your stuff. When it comes to Syndicates and such, the "intended" way makes no sense because you're just wasting your time. Necramechs are the biggest offenders. Have you ever tried to do Isolation Vaults solo at New War level? It's stupid.
That's what I mean. Because of the huge power imbalance, you're kind of *forced* to do them public, which usually also results in you getting hard carried
I liked the video, the only thing I don't agree with is the part about the generic cutscenes, showing the end of a cutscene is not a good way to prove that point (specifically the end when you are about to control the character), loved the video thou! Sometimes I think that Destiny is like Star Wars and Warframe is almost like Warhammer 40k.
Welcome Evan....to the party of your lifetime. P.S Evan when you were critiquing warframe's monetization you either forgot to mention or didnt notice UNLIKE *cough* destiny when you to buy anything that ISN'T a skin it actively tells you how to earn the item rather then buying it under blueprint conveniently under buy for platinum. No game especially destiny and its Nexon copycat(ive played both to hell so i know this for a fact) dont do that. Yeah TFD has a dictionary that shows you how and where to get things but Warframe has it to "the codex" the fact warframe went the extra mile and put another "you dont have to buy this you can earn it" warning in the cash shop shows how much MORE DE cares about its players over their wallets....if only destiny had done the same...a dream...a second dream you could say xD
Adding onto the community aspect, I think its super cool that the devs do dev shorts (15 mins every week where they talk about the game and answer questions), weekly primetime where they stream for 2 hours and play with the community, a full on dev stream every couple months, they do twitch drops, and then they do weekend twitch drops for certain streamers to help promote community. Listen to the devs and it doesn’t feel fake or that they are this big CEO who wants your money. They are real people who love what they do. I spend money just to support the devs. They are amazing.
Surprisingly a lot of people can't do that boss when it's REALLY easy. I got the hand ornaments for the ship day one of that boss coming out. We even carried a few friends to get theirs lol.
@@wegaxd I should've been more descriptive. I'm talking about content that like the campaign. Stuff that wouldn't confuse new players if it went away like in Destiny 2.
@@wegaxd Even when vaulted its only the posibilities to get the relics containing them, if you have the relics or someone else have the relics you can still acquire the vaulted Prime stuff
@@wegaxd primes aren't sunset period the ability to farm their relics is removed but the can still be earned if u have their relics or if u trade with other players unlike in destiny where u lose access to both earn and use it
Warframe has 2 endgames: Fashion and Elite Archimedy. Fashion is self-explanatory Elite Archimedy is basically "choose your own torture method if you want the best rewards".
Evan... Please make more Warframe content. I'd love to see some videos on both in game lore and community lore. It might not be as in depth as some of the veteran Warframe content creators could do, but you have a great knack for reaching an audience and you are currently positioned to bring in and teach so many new players as you experience Warframe yourself. I'd love to see your perspective shift from a new Tenno to a subject matter expert like you are with Destiny.
Learning how to build a frame is a whole world, actually also depends in your gameplay and how you like to play, hope you keep your journey en warframe
Ive played both games for about the same time, and ive been playing a whole lot more warframe than ive been playing destiny. To my Destiny refugees, we welcome you. We all life together 💪
For the first year, I thought the same way when playing WF as it gave me Destiny flashbacks and was afraid of it being samey. 2017 shows up, completed The Second Dream and everything I expected was blown out the water. Then completed the War Within and the rest was history. When Destiny 2 was getting hit hard, now getting hit the hardest it has ever dealt with, Warframe has always been there. With a community who yearns for new player progress. To see their reactions on the groundbreaking quests who never got spoiled, and to always help out when asked by those who are stuck and desire a hand. Also helps the developers are as excited as the community are, seeking ways to ensure progression and fun are being made. Now the game has had hiccups before and mistakes were made. But DE learned from their mistakes and bounced back, again and again. Hence Warframe is a consistently good game and is the kind that you will continually come back to when the going gets tough.
First at all, thank you for giving Warframe a chance. There are some points I want to provide a bit more additional information 0:49 From what I understand, DE went the F2P model wasn't because it was a successful model - it was because that was the only choice they had. For the community part, I think there are multiple reason that somehow less aggressive within its playerbase. Warframe has never been a very competitive game: PvP was and still is almost non-existent, nor endgame contents that requires well-coordinated party (the only examples I can think of was the removed raids and the early day Eidolon Hunts). Most of the Warframe contents can be soloed, so players would be less likely to blame on each others. Also, for those veteran players or at least survived through the early game, they know how difficult the experience was, so many of them would be more willing to help those who are struggling (which is even more interesting if you know where the Tenno came from...) 11:47 These seems like some Destiny references? Sorry I'm not familiar with Destiny so please correct me if I'm wrong. 13:03 To some extent, I agree the "Tutorial" section is a bit too long for newer players; yet, I also think the impact of the moment is because the time and energy they spend, the bond they form with the character, and the elaboration to that point. It's a dilemma I don't know which one is better or is there any perfect balance point of it. On the topic of Bosses and raids, there were several reasons DE doesn't focus on them. Most of those trash boss encounters were relics of the bygone eras, maybe one day DE will revamp them, like the Jackal. Warframe is a game that leaning toward casual players; if DE put those "endgame gears" or "super cool and unique fashion items" behind difficult encounters, that WILL enrage a lot of its playerbase. Another reason is that Warframes are simply too powerful to balance the encounters around them - you can tell by comparing the difficulty between using Drifter and Warframe to fight an Archon. Lastly, technical issues: this game isn't called "Bugframe" for no reason. Once again, welcome to the Origin System, Tenno.
There have been so many people checking out Warframe for the first time recently, and I am so here for it. I have about 2k hours in d2, and about triple that in Warframe. I have taken year long breaks, but I always seem to come back, and Everytime I do, there is a crazy amount of new content to do.
I've been an on and off warframe player since the closed beta and still have my shirt from back then. I've definitely bounced off some updates due to how I felt at the time DE mishandled it but even with that being the case Warframe had always been a comfort game for me I can come back to, play for awhile until something else comes along to take my attention then I take a break from it. I've been spending more time as of late getting all my weapon mods and frames unlocked I want prior to 1999's launch. Found your video through recommendation and I'm excited to see your first descendant video. Cheers. ❤
After 10 years, I finally got burnout recently with destiny; I decided to pick up Warframe for the first time in like 10 years and I'm blown away at how great it is. The grind on this game feels so much better than d2; like I don't have to run a 2-4 hour raid 60+ times to get a specific weapon I want; instead I can grind materials and currencies in various different activities and have my foundry build the item while I do anything I feel like in the game. Even mini games like fishing or mining are fun.
Most new players don't know about this, but there is also mini games you can play, once you install the arcade decoration in your orbiter. Its called Flappybird(?) and Framefighter.
@@nelson2095 Flappy Bird is the mobile game it's based on, the Warframe version is called Happy Zephyr. You can get to it in the Ludoplex (arcade decoration), or if you have Zephyr she has an appearance loadout you can get to it with. There's also Wyrmius in the Ludoplex, which you can get to in similar ways (but the Wyrm sentinel instead), which is a side-scroller shooting thing.
@@rjmacready6693that's super subjective to say there's no endgame. To newer players there's actually an endgame to look foward to. If you're a vet or person that understands Warframe very easily, then the "endgame" is completely nonexistent
I'm exceptionally happy to see that you're playing and reviewing Warframe, though I am a little sad that you're only doing it to review TFD. Warframe is a game of exceptional quality and community, and TFD comes nowhere near as good as Warframe or Destiny 2, even with the state D2 is in right now. Destiny players have always laughed at the concept of a Destiny killer, because it's a thing that's damn near impossible to exist, but a Warframe killer is quite literally an impossibility, that's how good it is.
I mean...the "intended way" is 'here's some story, take 30 min for it then come back when you mysteriously unlock the next story, til then figure out what you want to do'
ive seen so many "destiny player tries warframe for the first time" video the last few weeks, wtf happened over there lol? At any rate, welcome to Warframe, its a great game.
Two rounds of layoffs, the higher ups constantly saying it’s our fault for not buying the content to prevent it, lots of promises and ass-backwards changes, an overall lack of empathy and a community filled with toxicity. And not to mention the CEO Pete spent over 2 million bucks on cars.
Warframe is honestly my favorite looter shooter. The story, characters, the community, all of it combined makes for a fantasic experience. I randomly picked up warframe at the beginning of the pandemic and still go back to it off and on.
8:40 the difference is the value, compare the prices of reactors, 20 plat (2 dollars) on warframe to 20 dollars on first descendant, value of prime access to ultimate, prime giving the currency and more for the value and so on.
One thing I’ve never loved, but also think is a very interesting approach as a long time player - they do tons of a give-a-ways for engaging in outside of the game content and occasionally they’ll give away actual key parts or build components like a necro mech for example. I only recently started putting actual money into the game as a sign of respect to DE for years of quality gameplay, but over those years, there have been times I’ve been stuck in a grind and ended up utilizing that outside of the game component to progress my real game. I think it’s interesting that as starting player that might not want put a lot of funds into a game at first, DE gives you this option as a way to keep moving forward or just give you a free frame that can make your grind way easier… It’s a balancing act overall, but it’s an odd approach to QOL that I think is essential to staying on the path. A lot of games don’t do this, choosing to keep everything in game, but a lot of games don’t have dedicated yearly public events either ;)
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I want to apologize for showing potential spoilers of the game, I figured it would be fine since most of the audience for this video are either new players who wouldn't make anything of them or vets who know all about them, but it's still a mistake and I'm sorry everyone, hope the video was at least solid 😎
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thanks for acknowledging it, i already play the game so i dont really care about the spoilers though but still cool also w vid
@evanf1997 it's fine but seriously tho some people are acting like the fucking president died like dude
It's not that big of a deal
Good sir everything has been out longer than 2weeks
Most of the truly shocking stuff has been out for a few years now. So you get a pass
@@slamdunk6739 As a longtime player it's always an unspoken rule to not mention the Second Dream. As years of past it's been harder and harder to not spoil it for newbies, even the devs have kinda embraced it. But still, going in blind and experiencing the Second Dream is one of those top tier gaming moments if you have zero context. Though the game now has enough surprised outside of that that still make the story worth it.
dont worry, Warframe endgame is Fashion too
its all free.u nnoovv
Warframe is completely free.
Bruh to even get to Warframe end game, shit takes months
Warframe's ONLY endgame is fashion lmao
@@Adub12but it’s not p2w
the main diference between warframe anddestiny is. warframe isnt afraid to fail. they dont look at an update and think "will this bring in engagement". they look at something and say, "hey wouldnt it be cool if we had capital ships and expanded space battles, allowing you to steal enemy ships, kinda like a black flag in space? "
does it work all the time? no, if anything, they miss just as much as they hit. but you can feel how much they are more interested into offering cool stuff, above what is garanteed return on investment.
there's the infamous bungie tedtalk about lets not overdeliver, lets treat it like a train station.
meanwhile here's de they go the completely opposite way, "hey, lets add skate boards, and bikes, and flight packs and capital ships, and a rogue like, and not 1 but 3 completely diferent customizable zones. lets add weapons that are so broken, players will ask themselves why would i even bother play anything else, and then, see them optmize them to become even more broken... so lets now raise the bar on all other weapons to at least give them a fighting chance to be used. and every now and then you will see videos about how "this is the new op thing to get", only for someone in the comments to say, dude, that thing has been a powerhouse since forever, how did you not know about it yet?
warframe is not worried about the bottom line. the only bottom they are worried about, is the ones they add to the frames to make them more curvy. because warframe will give some GYAT energy to frames, regardless if they are male or female. warframe is not a game afraid of having its cake and eating it too. and yes, im using cake in "that" way.
Spoken like a true Tenno! In Space Mom we trust, to deliver us more cake!
I feel like when they fail, they also try to improve that idea and often succeed in improving it into something good.
Other companies tend to scrap stuff if it wasn't received well from the beginning or they brute force it in its bad shape.
@@nihzit8185 they will also revisit stuff to try and fix it, from time to time.
i think only pvp, the raids and lunaro that they given up, but who knows, maybe next year they will anounce something that will make those things shine out of nowhere.
@@marcosdhelenoI think they could completely revamp both the Conclave/Lunaro if they simply did a “Grinneer vs Corpus” kind of thing, people where talking about it when the New War trailers first came to be when we got the chance to play as Kahl and Veso, just simply pit us against each other as the factions, at least it would be more interesting than what we have now
Case in point about powerhouses - the Soma Prime, funnily enough, has never totally left the meta. And I find that so funny.
Remember
We all lift together
what a great track
Hearing the other version for the first time during the new war legit gave me chills
@@evanf1997it is one of very many bangers like redline
Funny enough I just got to fortuna last night for the first time.
Meanwhile in destiny: MuSt havE 1337 clEars on salvation edge and 69 kd or boot.
First Descendant kill Warframe? They are a long way from doing that.
December update TFD might be cooked once we get 1999
@@KaiserReb proto Nyx
@@KaiserReb You're probably right, maybe Lotus Eaters and the Unannounced 2023 Update will do something since we will see some QoL Updates and other things
@@KaiserReb That game was cooked(i assume you are using the negative implication of that term, cus some people use it as a positive term as well) when it launched, its just a worse version of destiny and warframe smashed together. Gameplay is super boring, no melee, super heavy grind, super generic story, no tradeable currency to circumvent the huge grinds for the Prime Descendants. This is all from launch so if they reduced the grind, it may be a more tolerable but still vastly inferior version of Warframe.
@@Koranthus Even if they reduce the grind the new player experience will be horrible. There is little to no reason to revisit open world missions. Every single encounter on the worldmap you do as part of the story is meant for a group of 2+ players. There is no solo mode as far as i could tell. New players will be doing it solo in a dead world. Pair that with the difficulty scaling vs player power and new players will be dying on basic open world activities unless they build craft from the start. I was only a week late for release and I already experienced the dead world partially. I played warframe I know the mod system. If I was completely new I would probably just rage quit because there is no way you will not handicap yourself without prior knowledge of how it works.
Not every mission has stuff you will always need as a drop and some of them are so bad you never want to do them again. I would rather ignore friends than go back and to the orb collecting bs missions again. And i did that crap solo it is horrible.
People will quit more and faster than they do in warframe unless they solve this somehow.
there is no intended way to play warframe you just play and set goals for yourself.
100%
They should just say it at beginning of the game ... because when you start it at first it is a confusing mess. I am a returning player and I am lost ...
I stopped playing it because Necromech
@@thehydragoose Necramech grind got significantly reduced by the way, if that was your problem.
@@thehydragoosethe necromech grind pretty much gets reduced every other update so it’s not even a fraction of what it used to be
Speaking of out of touch CEOs, the CEO of the devs literally posts weekly dev shorts where they show off what they've been working on in the game and personally answer players questions.
There is also a monthly devstream where the department heads talk about major game updates and events. And weekly the devs will stream themselves playing the game and personally engage in community content like builds, strats, dojos, fanart, etc.
Or talking about doner kebabs :D
Fun fact: The frost specter on the mars junction was so overpowered and difficult that he had to be changed to the Loki specter, I still remember getting bullied by him ☺️
I got oneshot by the ember spectre cause i was doing it one handed while talking on the phone.
1450h vet 😂😂.
@@fotis3v480 lol 🤣
It did? I still remember how his slows are an immediate death sentence but if anything that's it. 😅
@@redirmer760 yeah he had to be moved to the Neptune junction lol
fun fact Excalibur can one shot all specters with the help of radiant blind/howl
I love Warframes resource system.
Warframe is the only live service game that managed to keep old resources and keep ALL resources viable for the rest of the game.
Even the most trash resource will end up being useful
Any piece of loot you get can be used
even the resources that no longer have recipes (nav coordinates, orokin ciphers) can be feed to the Helminth
like who comes up with that genius idea.
(also who comes up with the whole "pink zit-popping infested dentist chair" in the first place)
I mean, there are several resources that are only useful as Helminth food now, but I guess they are in fact still useful for that.
my 100s of thousands of mats loved the subsume update
Want to know the intended way to play warframe? The answer, your way. Set your own pace and have fun.
Exactly!
I’d say the only “intended” way is to get through the story content because it connects us all.
Aka no endgame
This is why I postpone new war for like 3~4 months. The hype really paid off.
@@motivateddad New War is easy with Excalibur Umbra and his weapon if you have good weapons for the other two slots
Generally speaking, the warframe community tries very hard to NOT spoil the existence of the operator as it makes the second dream much less impactful.
Also Raids were removed because they were very buggy and DE was tired of trying to iron them out, so they just removed them. There was two raid missions, the second one was very buggy.
To this day I have a Trinity Prime loadout slot named LoR build
I will never change that load-out name.
The closest things to raid bosses is eidolon hunts, orb hunts, and a secret boss after Whispers in the Wall.
also barely anyone played those raids and honestly i personally didn't find them that great. lot of babysitting and telling people on what button to stand.
@@FrancisYorkMorganFBI oh I remember that alottt
I used to run with a group who had them down to a science. Sadly even the rewards back then were lackluster, it was more a sorta fun thing to do.
@@Hawk-Eye-bs2hr the closest of those being 60 eyes
The big difference of Warframe's "you can buy everything with real money" is that the premium currency (plat) is easily obtained in-game. There are multiple different ways to grind your Warframes. I spend most of my time in Warframe grinding rare mods and arcanes to sell to other players who don't want to grind for those things, so I don't ever have to worry about grinding out Prime parts from relics. I just buy the parts from other players using the plat I made as soon as the update launches.
Can you build "wealth" in this game and trade for the premium currency? I always liked doing that in Fallout 76. Stockpile common stuff like ammo and trade it for great/rare stuff.
@@shadyrebob5999yeah there’s a trading system that can make uses of not only plat but also other Warframe parts and I think other items as well
@@shadyrebob5999you can collect rare items and trade them with other players for the premium currency
@@shadyrebob5999yes a good amount of the playerbase has never even spent money on platinum and still been able to fully experience the game with only minor drawbacks
@@shadyrebob5999 you can 100% do that like in f76. The last time I bought a platinum pack was almost a year ago. Since then I've made all my platinum through trade with other players
Warframe isn’t a “destiny killer” it doesn’t need to kill anything. It will outlive us all
It is definitely a Destiny Outlaster
The clan system in Warframe is like 50 years ahead of D2. You can create some incredibly epic scenes in your dojo and DE feature them all the time, at the same time in D2 clans dont even get a new seasonal flag.
Featured Dojo's are so underrated. Literally jaw dropping at times.
@@godzelda123 And then there's my clans dojo...with a statue of Loki with a massive set of balls and a huge dong pissing out white colored water as the centerpiece of one of the rooms.
I'm not complaining. It's a work of art.
Bro, people who can decorate either the dojos or living areas have my respect cause I'm not that creative when doing stuff
@@giancarloortiz9236 Like I said. Jaw dropping at times
My Clan's Dojo even have an grave hall built in, its reserved for important members that dissapeared (never logged again) or any member that has been confirmed deceased irl.
Warframe, due to it's complexity I imagine, doesn't appear to attract the toxic, jock element that Destiny does. The community also seems to be a lot more friendly and patient. Both bonuses right from the start. After 7000 hours of Destiny, I'm looking forward to getting stuck into Warframe.
@@Jonny_Nemo Also cause pvp is irrelevant.
@@Hawk-Eye-bs2hr If Bungie had decided from the conception of D2 to separate the PVE and PVP sandboxes, that would be a nonfactor.
It says a lot that Warframe, a game so poorly balanced for PVP that they literally gave up on it, has a defined separation between PVE and PVP sandboxes...while Destiny 2, a game that tried to establish itself in eSports, only started to separate the sandboxes years after the game was at all relevant in the eSports community. So much missed potential in Destiny 2 that it's actually depressing to think about.
@@giancarloortiz9236 honestly every game should completely separate the 2, it only hurts the PvE experience when you have to balance your class fantasy against another for PvP reasons. Its the reason WoW could never add pure support classes into the game and why after Cataclysm a lot of classes felt the same because its hard to balance this really cool ability that's a great team support in a raid against another class that doesn't have it because they do something else. I imagine Warframe would have failed if they tried to keep their game balanced in PvP because most of the fun on Warframe is how stupidly broken you can amplify warframes and weapons to do things that make sense to random NPC enemies but would lead to absolute dominance in PvP.
Ive only experienced a few bad apples who thinks that low mr players are bad and can't have an opinion cause might makes right, everyone else in my squad defended us and made the toxic guy leave. 100 hours and only 1 toxic person is crazy good
@@we_be_vibiin-twitch In warframe MR 20+ players will flame each other but the little baby tenno will rarely get blamed for anything.
This game's file size is also impressive considering with how much stuff you can do.
Around 44 gigs.
Let that sink in...
Meanwhile destiny removed content for 'space' 😂
@@fotis3v480 B-b-but, you don't get it, optimization costs time and money, and Parsons needed another classic car!
@@giancarloortiz9236 "hehe micro-optimization makes graphics renderer go brrrrrrr"
Meanwhile, God of War Ragnarok on PC is a colossal 190gb. For a single player game you'll finish in 10-15 hours. And Black Ops 6 is an absolutely gargantuan 300gb.
Game devs, not everyone lives right near the city with easy access to fiber internet and even if we did, storage devices don't grow on trees. I'm just waiting for the day companies start selling games on external SSDs because file sizes have gotten completely out of control.
@@qu1253 the return of owning a physical copy of a game.
Funnily enough Warframe is more similar to Monster Hunter than Destiny.
You can progress story missions with little to 0 "Grinding". Instead of having a decent Light Level before going into a new mission.
And after finishing the story added till the latest patch (exp. Fatalis for MHI and 1999 for Warframe) you have the same things to do:
- Help new players
- Find perfect farmable drip
- Farm only the things you desire (They will be all thanks to the sense of completionism)
- Indulge into the supplementary Lore and Art like the Serious Handler or Wisp ASSets.
i want to cover monster hunter so badly!!!
@evanf1997 please do!
Yes but sadly the best monster hunter so far imo is world and it has stopped releasing new updates and rise is mid
@@jakoblopez5691 true. But Warframe is a Live service that grows thanks to micro transactions, monster hunters are always games done and finished. All the events missions World and Rise have (plus the collaboration with other games like The Witcher 3, Devil may cry are free). Mh dlcs exist only to not release a new game like they used too in order to keep History, Map and Gameplay now separated by game (A little like Warframe is gonna do with the new born Soulsframe).
And they are already preparing Monster Hunter Wilds, wich seem to have taken all the critics from Rise (that was a Switch exclusive) and returned to a more "realistic" and "heavy" gameplay like World.
@@evanf1997 Wilds will be a good time to get into Monster Hunter. Otherwise as one streamer I follow has said, "so I decided to go full time content creation during the largest drought the franchise has ever seen."
I started playing Warframe a few days ago. Crazy how many Destiny players have been looking for a new home.
No one *wants* to stay on a sinking ship. Especially when a floating and maintained alternative is chilling in the water nearby. 🤣
@@giancarloortiz9236Thing is, it’s only really sinking because people like you blew the entire situation out of proportion.
@@SaltSpirits the players made the developers waste money and developers on a separate game and put out subpar expansions that have been critically panned across the board? Wow, Destiny players have a lot of power. Its been sinking since D2 launched, they just keep enough water out of the bobber to stay above water and they finally hit their limit. Go watch any "what went wrong" videos for the game even before final shape and everyone will tell you the game would basically release a good expansion and then do a bunch of subpar or badly implemented shit and a bad expansion and then barely salvage another good expansion when MTX numbers were looking poor.
@@Koranthus Destiny is in a bad spot -> This is the end for Destiny -> OMG Destiny is saved!
Repeat for 10 years
We welcome everyone😎
There should be a rather large spoiler warning right at the beginning of the video. The playerbase prefers keeping the major story moments secret. Duviri Paradox really isnt a good alternate start as it causes immediate confusion and damages some large reveals.
Most of the games bosses are ancient relics and are being updated.
This i was wondering like wait he spoiled a good part of the game talking about the Op but l guess you'll get those that'll say games been out for years so it's ok.
Duviri being accessible so early always bugged me, it also highlighted a problem I’ve had for years revolving newer warframes
I miss when it was a huge mystery for new people what a Warframe was and what was inside it, was it a person wearing a suit? Are we machines? Then a new person could take one look at Xaku, Dagoth or Citrine and go “Okay there clearly arent people in there.” it kinda saddens me new people miss out on that intrigue we used to have way back when.
Seeing a bunch of D2 youtubers dripping their toes into Warframe after the Final Shape brings a smile to my face
War frame if I’m being doesn’t really have the market that D2 has/had. Sure many RUclipsrs might try it out n play it again but it won’t be long until they move to something else can’t really make content off of warframe, but it is a joy to play
Destiny community is very toxic don't get too excited.
Its still crazy to me d2 still implements paid expansion and at the same time remove past paid content "to reduce game size"
@@cryxbaby2250tbf, most player that aren't content creators give up early. So them being gatekept from the start makes it less toxic. But that's not to say Warframe players can't get toxic. So seeing a Destiny player being toxic is nothing sort of a problem cause that's on them for a problem to occur
@aiaoi5048 yet Warframe has been able to keep the game size around 30-40ish gbs. Which, i would love to know how they do it cuz it seems like magic to me
On the topic of bosses, DE has said they are intent of reworking old bosses.
The first result of this is the current state of the Jackal fight.
cant wait for the The Sergeant lol
@@kyoko4651 The slightly taller corpus ._. I love how stupidly easy he is. I hope they make a joke about it when they rework it ahah
@@kyoko4651 They're finally gonna nerf the hardest boss of the game
@@fitzviandraduivenab2790 Ikr I struggled with him so much
@@MyaMore-cb7zb I love how he's basically a Capture mission lol, It would be cool if they made us Hunt down the current sergeant, to get a like, a passkey to open a door for the real room, Kind of like the treasurers (Also funny that they have more Unique attacks than an actual boss lol)
First descendant is fun but it is no Warframe killer.
Basically if you like first descendant, play around with it for a bit as it functions as a Warframe light.
And follow it up with a similar game that has way more depth, mechanics and fun gameplay loops.
Also their tagline is "Ninjas play free" and for good reason.
Platinum is the premium currency but is tradeable with other players, so if you don't wanna invest real money but are OK with investing time than you can make money in game by trading.
Saw you mining on Deimos that one stream only to encounter the same problem when I eventually got there. Sharing pain is one way to truly understand another person lol.
I ran into someone in region chat that needed some purified heciphron to build their Necramech...since I had a bunch sitting around collecting dust, I traded it to him.
That's probably why a lot of people are generally nice since they know the pain
I gave some of my primes to my friend since she just started and I didn’t need them and she literally asked if it was normal and I was just making sure she had a fun time playing
@@RedShadowOfSaturn bold of you to turn region chat on
@@gamermanPS3 Oh, I'm well aware of the risk I'm taking there, for sure. 🤣
the first desendant isnt killing shit
i appreciate that some people thought because TFD ripped off the mod system and the "crafting a descendant" system from warframe that it was somehow going to steal the crowd that has spent a few hundred hours completeling customizing and building like 60 warframes. Like it was nice to try, but stealing 2 systems from a good game doesn't magically make it a good game, they still basically transplanted everything else from Destiny including a subpar story(i finshed the launch version of D1, you can say it got better later but considering that was basically all the game had besides 3 strikes and a raid, not a good look)
TFD has a long way to go. Right now I'm mixed about it, but it's not so bad that I don't play it.
You mean the watered down, gooner slop version of Warframe with predatory Nexon behind it won't kill anything? Yeaaahhhh, of course it won't. Two years from now, it'll be a memory everyone laughs at.
Trash video. Spoils the quests. Makes hyperbolic statements to drive comments. TFD fans aren't making it a competition.
As someone who enjoys both tfd and warframe, it's really not that bad, very over hated, it has a lot of potential neon just has to not f it up, which they so far seem to be doing a great job of so far
actually so happy so many high effort channels are moving to warframe
it is no doubt an untapped market
It isnt
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@@rjmacready6693how about you actually play the game before talking dumbass
@@rjmacready6693 it is. There is like no one talking about warframe other than the warframe community. It basically untapped because there is so much to do not even a founder that is still playing today got everything accomplished or didnt do something they wanted to do
@@gb6656 only some founders. Ive met a couple people who have almost everything and have everything completed.
Community is a big part of warframe, and what I've found keeps the long time players going. Joining a community of players, or squading up with friends, is the true joy of the game, and why so many vets love finding videos of new players, tho we can be... overwhelming, that's very true
Happy to see warframe content from you.
Welcome to a game dev who actually genuinely respects their community
When they’re not banding them sure. Although the dives may respect their community, their moderators certainly don’t war frame has a horrific history with its in game moderators.
Newer players in the community. Vets not so much but I still have respect for the devs because in general they do care
Hey, Warframe player here!
Feel free to hop on board! We can't really guarantee if it'll scratch your Destiny itch but you're more than welcomed to stick around and have fun!
Facts
One fun bit of community connection: Reb Ford is the voice of the Lotus, and was a DE intern at the time. Now she's the creative director after years of being community manager. So now our Space Mom is also our Warframe Mom.
What sucks is it essentially took the fall of destiny for Warframe to get the light it’s deserved for so long
They are nowhere near the same game bro lol.
3rd person hybrid slashers isn't anything like an fps game.
@@fotis3v480nothing to do with what they said?
@@fotis3v480 you lost?
@@fotis3v480 No you are right they are not alike in that way but they are both looter shooters that fill a similar sci-fi power fantasy niche.
@@fotis3v480I mean true but also I get what Austin was meaning. He is getting out the point that a ton of the big destiny streamers are now joining the game.
Forcer, Mactics, Evanf? Is this the apocalypse for destiny or the golden age for warframe? Did you all collectively agree to come to start warframe in the same week?
Since the second layoffs and the announcement of the new content structure of destiny 2 a lot of people are seeing it (me included although I quit after lightfall) as the final nail in the coffin, and while warframe is not a replacement at all for destiny it is a very good game so I’m happy with the new eyes on it
We welcome all
I helped a newer player get gauss prime, but it cost me around a few months of progress. But it was worth it.
It’s not a “destiny killer” it’s a similar but very different type of game. The same players might enjoy both games, but if you want to play a certain type of game, Warframe and Destiny don’t perfectly overlap.
Calling warframe the Destiny Killer is the same vein as calling Halo 1 the fortnite killer. Where the only similar thing is you shoot someone. and the fact that the other game is older. Technically wya older since Warframes roots go as far back as Dark sector.
way too many story spoilers for a video aimed at new warframe players.. saying to play through and enjoy the second dream as your reward and then proceeding to spoil the major plot twist of it 5 minutes later is not fair to new players who want to experience warframe's story for themselves
it's worse than that. there's footage that spoils it not even 10 seconds into the video.
Was just thinking the same thing
It's a multiple year old quest grow up.
@@fotis3v480 Fuck off. It's the games biggest turning point story-wise. It's a moment that needs to be experienced blind. In fact it is so impactful that some of the biggest videos on youtube about this game are just new players playing the second dream, or a series of videos from one channel where they get more and more infatuated with the game until they hit the second dream and they realise they haven't even scraped the surface yet. Warframe players enjoy watching people experience the game for the first time, for good reason.
where does this say its for new players lol? title says "warframe for someone whos played destiny" so him.. this is more a impressions video of his exp.. why wouldnt there be spoilers? yall whining just to whine.
The thing I love about Warframe; I’ve never stopped moving forward. Nothing I do feels wasted.
9:34 The DLCs are all cosmetic, none of them add storyline or depth. Another thing to note: most of these DLCs are also temporary as they are simply compliments and/or a way to skip grind on the "upgraded" variants of frames that the base version of has already been out in game (Say Sevagoth Prime access pack is in the store, Sevagoth himself has been available for some time now and is obtainable without purchase).
There is no DLC. I think he just meant "updates" but is too Destiny-brained to understand there is a huge difference.
I have waited so long for this video, and it finally happened. Thank you so much for coming.
it took me 120+ hours to finish the tutorial. an additional 560+ to reach the endgame. another 50+ something hours to understand the endgame. it was all worth it too
Same ive put in over 350+ hours to get to endgame and steel path but i had my cousin carry me through spy missions since i hate them lmao
There is no endgame
What would you consider to be endgame? Personally I think entering endgame is unlocking steel path and beginning the arbitration, archon hunts and eidolon farming while progressing SP, while “true” endgame activities are netracels and the other activity that uses netracel attempts and personal goal of going level cap.
@@strauss_ as of right now i guess it would be steel path, EDA and maybe even netracells. since they give the latest big rewards(archon shards and arcanes).
eidolons used to be the endgame on release til we all figured out how to solo them. especially now with necramechs your build doesn't even matter all to much.
i even remember DE pushing sorties as endgame back in the day once rivens released. but power creep eventually made those super easy as well.
took me around 2200 hours to unlock SP earlier this year, and even still, today at around 2500 hours, i havent done a single Eidolon hunt, started early 2013, so have seen the improvements through the years
The Hive and The Infested are definitely both inspired by the same source material, The Flood.
Warframe, a game that actually rewards grinding and makes effort feel good and worthwhile
Damn straight. Destiny has not felt rewarding or respecting of my time for a long time now
Meanwhile, there's me who still doesn't have a Tigris Prime after hours upon hours upon hours of soul sucking grind. Now it's vaulted, so I can never complete it and all the parts and blueprints I do have are basically worthless.
@@qu1253 You can still get vaulted items by trading with other players. Vaulted weapons and frames also come back regularly through resurgence so you can grind them out that way if trading isn't your thing.
@@qu1253 it'll come back hold strong Tenno
@@qu1253 A quite simple solution is to farm relics. Sell the rewards for plat and then using that plat to buy tigris prime on warframe market. Wisp prime set cost me like 40 plat. Just checked Tigris Prime SET is going for 45-50 Plat rn.
As both a warframe and D2 player.
They are both not the same or even slightly similar when it comes to reward feedback.
It baffles me everytime someone makes the comparison.
Maybe because they are both space grind games?
Honestly iv no idea how anyone can draw comparisons from both games, played destiny since d1 release and picked up Warframe about 4-5 weeks ago and they couldn’t be any more different.
my god where was the spoiler warning
1:59, also, Warframe itself can be a VERY intimidating game, especially 2(i think, before they revamped the beginning quests, I think Duviri update) years ago. It has SO much, and little actual guide. My advice for anyone starting out: explore and develop your star-chart. The more areas you unlock, the more quests you can do, the more stuff you can make, the more levels you can earn, the more idea you can have of what you want to do. However, with that all said, Warframe is VERY rewarding (as he mentions). I like this because it's only rewarding to those who are focused, so it rewards patience and determination (on a neural level). Speaking of neural levels, this game is very intuitive with it's emotional building blocks (ik a weird theme for it being a looter shooter).
As a destiny player who moved over after shadowkeep, Warframe is one of those games that is enjoyable depending on the person, it won’t have the cool and challenging gunfights like destiny but it has a lot of systems and aspects that are great with a lot of depth. The only real downside is the grind and confusion on what to do but honestly with how favorable and fair the monetization is and how nice the devs are along with the passion they put into the game, the future of Warframe looks really bright and I’m happy I moved over to it.
I also just got to the part with the buying everything part, you can buy almost everything but honestly it’s not worthwhile to do it unless it’s a frame where the grind is unbearable (ash). You can start trading early on and build a small wealth of plat pretty easily and midway through when you get to the high level content you can start making plat very easily through grinding for arcanes or gathering semi-rare mods
Just got to the mention of raids too, those were removed primarily due to them being extremely buggy spaghetti fests that were built for when Warframe didn’t have the systems we have now and was much simpler, the devs have said they’ll add them back eventually but it’s been a while so there’s hope
I know one of my favorite videos relating to warframe is one along the lines of “Every 15 seconds the game changes, but it’s still Warframe” genuinely so interesting to see how different this game is. Fire game
'Sent me a million drones', welcome to warframe! I have also seen people get million monkies and or eggs. Also yes the stug is a meme.
The first descendant killing warframe is beyond hilarious they're quite different and as you basically said yourself the vets are part of the cult 😂❤ warframe honestly will most likely be alive for a very VERY long time. They dont care that much about money the only "money related controversy" we've had was with steel essence and kuva but DE basically accepted that they can't control the in-game market and stopped trying. They care about their players and their game not their wallets, there's not many games/teams you can say that about either. Warframe will always have a soft spot in my heart and i will alwys play it. I was an AVID Destiny and Destiny 2 player I played both since release. I stopped playing Destiny 2 about a year ago because I was tired of the BS, constant ignorance, no PVP updates, the stupid ass seasons, and the $60 expansions once a year. I felt lost for 6-8 months bouncing back and four from game to game and then remembered Warframe a couple months ago right before all the destiny players came over. I fell in love all over again and was so excited for all the new content mods and warframes, I've now been consistently playing for a couple months at least 20+ hours a week, AND IM STILL USING WEAPONS FROM 5 YEARS AGO, I'm an absolute blast man, my alliance the other day told me i should switch off the ignis wraith and not waste my plat on a riven for it, but that doesnt matter for me. I have an extremely neice playstyle and my favorite warframe is probably the least played one Gyre, but in the past couple months I've been able to build her, my ignis wraith, and epitaph up to where I can literally delete entire rooms of enemies by walking into them and toasting a single eximus for like 2 seconds. This game is absolutely amazing and golden. Long live the tenno, long live the warframe!!!!
As someone who played almost as much Warframe (around 3-4k hours) that I did with with destiny (4-5k) Don't worry about starting. The game is MASSIVE, the lore is incredible and had one of the best reveal in the gaming industry. So much that nobody snitched or spoiled it. it just need a try. So wake up Tenno, the Sol system is waiting for you.
Just finished the war within quest and what an amazing story
aye, welcome to Warframe, we all lift together.
The phrase "Ninjas play free" quite litterally encompasses all that is warframe.
Aside from Tennogen, you can get EVERY (available) item just by playing the game. You can trade for Platinum and use that to "Boost" yourself or purchase frames that might be a bit grindy to farm (Kullervo & Dagath for example).
Every 2 weeks the Void trader (Baro Ki'teer) comes to a relay (community hub) where he sells some limited mods/ weapons & cosmetics... and a quest for one of the warframes.
You don't ever have to spend a single cent, but you will feel inclined to do so, not out of necessity, but out of respect.. given that you've made it past ~100 hours playing (If you've been around this long, you've gotten more playtime on a free game, than anything Ubisoft has sold to date). And let's not even talk about login Discounts... you can get up to 75% off on a Platinum purchase, which brings a $200 pack down to $50... it's still a lot, but you're getting 4x your money's worth (compared to destiny 2... yeah, WF wins on that one).... also, no yearly expansion purchases... suck it Bungie.
Yes warframe is a bit grindy, but it's simple once you go to the IN GAME LFG chat, if you just "ask" for advice, 9/10 times you will get flooded with helpful comments & folks willing to grind with you. There may also be a troll or 2, which makes for really absurd & funny moments. The best part imo, is that your session is local (if you are the host/ playing solo), otherwise, the game targets the member with the best/ most stable connection to act as the host. There is almost no lag (but when there is, it can be a pain, if you for example join a guy playing on his fridge with a 1Mbps connection)... but the thing is... that crappy connection, does not prevent you from enjoying the game solo... unlike Destiny or TFD.
I've spent quite a few grand on Warframe, and just like PoE, they're purchases I feel are 100% worth it, and no regrets. I might not play every single day now, but it's the one game on my pc that's been on it for the 11 Years I've been playing. And the absolute best part.... you can play all of the main quest missions to this day, unlike the Red War in D2... heck, you can even replay/ restart those missions if you wanna experience it again.
I love Warframe, I love DERebecca, DESteve and DEMegan... I love PrimeTime on Fridays (for me at least)... I've seen them succeed, and I've seen them thank Mr. Nick Gurr live... The game feels more like a family, than a hassle to play. If you ever feel overwhelmed, all you need to do, is ask someone.
"What is love?"
Watching through the video, I can't wait for you to try the Steel path hehe
Atleast with Warframe you can play the whole story, not just the latest expansions.
When you mention the first descendant and say Warframe has similar systems, you missed the cost differences, which are significant. But also, in Warframe you can earn premium currency by trading with other players. This is unique in games as a whole as far as I know.
One of the single best things about Warframe is the fact that you don’t have to spend ANY money at all to get the premium currency, it’s an entirely opt-in system. I may not agree with some of the leadership’s politics but it’s undeniable they made a brilliant game with them actually listening to the community that support them.
I think one thing warframe does SO MUCH better than destiny is community engagement. I don't think I have ever seen a system similar to the Tennogen system in warframe. The sheer fact that the community can make skins and ALL the money goes straight to the creator's pocket is absolutely insane and genuinely a fantastic idea. It rewards creators and people who want to make in game cosmetics and give them some money on the side.
a fun note if one has not figured it out yet. The Lotus is the creative director of the game, The VA for the character is Rebb Ford. So if you see people call her mom or spacemom that is why because space mom is the nickname of the Lotus.
Primary takeaway about Warframe monetization- You don’t need to buy plat you can use in game trade and sell rare loot to players for plat… once first descendant does this I’ll consider going back to it
It's like picking up random coins from other countries so you exchange them in the guild for ones you can use
Trade > get some black platinum from jerk > get banned by DE forever cuz they don’t care that you couldn’t know that THIS plat from RANDOM PLAYER is BLACK plat
DE: trade at your own risk we don’t care we ban you anyway
7:14
Warframe was once very sluggish, we abused the momentum some slideattacks would grant us midair to "copter" from A to B.
But instead of nerfing it like bungie did with eagers edge, they morphed it into the now known bulletjump birthing new movement techs.
DE isnt flaweless but that was stellar.
4:10 Is this a Destiny 2 content vaulting apologist stance? I feel like I should stop the video there.
This guy says they need to work on boss fights, but he never mentions Eidolons, Profit Taker Orb or Exploiter Orb, Ropalolyst, OroWyrms, etc.
I'm a simple 600hour warframe player. I grind Relics to sell em for plat and go Fishing afterwards. I love this game
Love the player economy aspect of the game as well. Player trading is always going.
I picked up Warframe after the disappointment that was lightfall, and I'm so happy to see the recent influx of former D2 players hopping on to try out the game. Hope y'all are enjoying this *actual* Free to play title lol
tried it years ago... the first 20 hours when u play ALONE are biggest shit i have ever seen... still dont have a clue what i am doing there no clues no hints no red line u can hop on and just play... mod and upgrade system is too complex especially when u are a beginner... wepaons? what weapons when u choose wrong u have to play a shitty bow for a long time... and u have 2 option per weapon slot at the start of ur journey.... for the first 20 hours it is a real pain for a destiny 2 veteran with more than 13k hours... i was open minded but i had the feeling that the game doesn't want me to tell how to play this in a cerain way... the only 2 things that was fun at the beginning are the movement adn the fact thate nemies at the stzart a re so low u can one hit kill them with ur catana ... but when u reach a certain point in the story on other planets u have to work the bow that u choose wrong ....
in the end a nice game... performance was good... but a big lack of guiding new players.... back to destiny for me...
@@KHorN32KHarN3the bow is fine for when you have it, by the time it sucks you could have replaced it already
@@KHorN32KHarN3 When I first played warframe I was like 15. It was much harder, more grindier and all than now. Not to mention the lack of wiki or content, there wasn't even a codex with every weapon in game. So, maybe it's just not for you?
If you don't try by yourself to play the actual game, it wont beg you to do so.. That's the thing with Warframe.
I remember people were having problems with Missions like Exterminations because the map would spawn the exact amount of enemies you need to kill, to complete the mission. The issue with that, was that players would have to scour the entire map to find the last guy, and he'll either be running into a wall, or stuck IN a wall. To remedy this, the devs made it so that enemies constantly spawn in.
4:40
Dont worry mate, most of us dislike the people who try to railroad new players into the "intended way" too.
If I were to say what the "intended way is", its to grab a buddy or three (preferably atleast one who knows the game) and playing the way you like (we all pray for new player experience improvements)
Anyways, asidee from the potential spoilers (Which you already apologized for), I think your video is spot on - Warframe has its weaknesses and strengths, but you can clearly tell it was the labor of love and years every step of fthe way
The "intended" way changes depending on what you're doing. I'd say do the starchart by yourself because that's when you get to really get a feel for your stuff. When it comes to Syndicates and such, the "intended" way makes no sense because you're just wasting your time. Necramechs are the biggest offenders. Have you ever tried to do Isolation Vaults solo at New War level? It's stupid.
@@zacsolo1594 Why would you do Iso vaults solo? Usually public rolls are good enough honestly
That's what I mean. Because of the huge power imbalance, you're kind of *forced* to do them public, which usually also results in you getting hard carried
@@zacsolo1594 I meean, i suppose yeah
I liked the video, the only thing I don't agree with is the part about the generic cutscenes, showing the end of a cutscene is not a good way to prove that point (specifically the end when you are about to control the character), loved the video thou! Sometimes I think that Destiny is like Star Wars and Warframe is almost like Warhammer 40k.
Welcome Evan....to the party of your lifetime.
P.S Evan when you were critiquing warframe's monetization you either forgot to mention or didnt notice UNLIKE *cough* destiny when you to buy anything that ISN'T a skin it actively tells you how to earn the item rather then buying it under blueprint conveniently under buy for platinum. No game especially destiny and its Nexon copycat(ive played both to hell so i know this for a fact) dont do that. Yeah TFD has a dictionary that shows you how and where to get things but Warframe has it to "the codex" the fact warframe went the extra mile and put another "you dont have to buy this you can earn it" warning in the cash shop shows how much MORE DE cares about its players over their wallets....if only destiny had done the same...a dream...a second dream you could say xD
you have insulted the elder gods, there is only one appeasement that shall suffice.
*100 Forma Stug.*
Moving on to Warframe was the best decision I made 6 years ago
Adding onto the community aspect, I think its super cool that the devs do dev shorts (15 mins every week where they talk about the game and answer questions), weekly primetime where they stream for 2 hours and play with the community, a full on dev stream every couple months, they do twitch drops, and then they do weekend twitch drops for certain streamers to help promote community. Listen to the devs and it doesn’t feel fake or that they are this big CEO who wants your money. They are real people who love what they do. I spend money just to support the devs. They are amazing.
Oh can’t wait for you to try the 60 eyes hidden boss, have people that know what they’re doing take you through it
Surprisingly a lot of people can't do that boss when it's REALLY easy. I got the hand ornaments for the ship day one of that boss coming out. We even carried a few friends to get theirs lol.
I'm ~2000 hours in and haven't found out how to get that sumdali until now. Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today.
Your description of the factions was very reductive...and correct. Also WMMT Music!
Unlike Destiny 2, Warframe doesn't vault its content or sunsets weapons.
Primes.
@@wegaxd I should've been more descriptive. I'm talking about content that like the campaign. Stuff that wouldn't confuse new players if it went away like in Destiny 2.
@@kinghezgdtaylor oh
@@wegaxd Even when vaulted its only the posibilities to get the relics containing them, if you have the relics or someone else have the relics you can still acquire the vaulted Prime stuff
@@wegaxd primes aren't sunset period the ability to farm their relics is removed but the can still be earned if u have their relics or if u trade with other players unlike in destiny where u lose access to both earn and use it
You shouldn’t be giving out spoilers, especially for the second dream. It’s one of the best moments for a new player to discover the larger game
Warframe has 2 endgames:
Fashion and Elite Archimedy.
Fashion is self-explanatory
Elite Archimedy is basically "choose your own torture method if you want the best rewards".
Evan... Please make more Warframe content. I'd love to see some videos on both in game lore and community lore. It might not be as in depth as some of the veteran Warframe content creators could do, but you have a great knack for reaching an audience and you are currently positioned to bring in and teach so many new players as you experience Warframe yourself. I'd love to see your perspective shift from a new Tenno to a subject matter expert like you are with Destiny.
DO NOT AND I REPEAT TURN ON REGION CHAT
Warframe is a beautiful game
Don't forget, Warframe has something Destiny will never have: Thiccframe
Destiny has something Warframe will never have: Armor I actually like the look of.
@@oxsila you have a massive skill issue at getting creative then
@@noba04 The classic "skill issue" arguement to cover up for the fact that it's well known that a lot of people don't like the fashion in warframe lol
@@oxsila horrible bait, the community jokingly and literally crowns fashion as the endgame, cope
@@oxsilaJust look for something that suits your style. Don’t go into it wanting to bash cosmetics simply because you wanna be angry.
Learning how to build a frame is a whole world, actually also depends in your gameplay and how you like to play, hope you keep your journey en warframe
Ive played both games for about the same time, and ive been playing a whole lot more warframe than ive been playing destiny. To my Destiny refugees, we welcome you. We all life together 💪
For the first year, I thought the same way when playing WF as it gave me Destiny flashbacks and was afraid of it being samey. 2017 shows up, completed The Second Dream and everything I expected was blown out the water. Then completed the War Within and the rest was history. When Destiny 2 was getting hit hard, now getting hit the hardest it has ever dealt with, Warframe has always been there. With a community who yearns for new player progress. To see their reactions on the groundbreaking quests who never got spoiled, and to always help out when asked by those who are stuck and desire a hand. Also helps the developers are as excited as the community are, seeking ways to ensure progression and fun are being made. Now the game has had hiccups before and mistakes were made. But DE learned from their mistakes and bounced back, again and again. Hence Warframe is a consistently good game and is the kind that you will continually come back to when the going gets tough.
2:03 you did NOT have to make that transition THAT hard
First at all, thank you for giving Warframe a chance.
There are some points I want to provide a bit more additional information
0:49 From what I understand, DE went the F2P model wasn't because it was a successful model - it was because that was the only choice they had.
For the community part, I think there are multiple reason that somehow less aggressive within its playerbase.
Warframe has never been a very competitive game: PvP was and still is almost non-existent, nor endgame contents that requires well-coordinated party (the only examples I can think of was the removed raids and the early day Eidolon Hunts). Most of the Warframe contents can be soloed, so players would be less likely to blame on each others.
Also, for those veteran players or at least survived through the early game, they know how difficult the experience was, so many of them would be more willing to help those who are struggling (which is even more interesting if you know where the Tenno came from...)
11:47 These seems like some Destiny references? Sorry I'm not familiar with Destiny so please correct me if I'm wrong.
13:03 To some extent, I agree the "Tutorial" section is a bit too long for newer players; yet, I also think the impact of the moment is because the time and energy they spend, the bond they form with the character, and the elaboration to that point. It's a dilemma I don't know which one is better or is there any perfect balance point of it.
On the topic of Bosses and raids, there were several reasons DE doesn't focus on them.
Most of those trash boss encounters were relics of the bygone eras, maybe one day DE will revamp them, like the Jackal.
Warframe is a game that leaning toward casual players; if DE put those "endgame gears" or "super cool and unique fashion items" behind difficult encounters, that WILL enrage a lot of its playerbase.
Another reason is that Warframes are simply too powerful to balance the encounters around them - you can tell by comparing the difficulty between using Drifter and Warframe to fight an Archon.
Lastly, technical issues: this game isn't called "Bugframe" for no reason.
Once again, welcome to the Origin System, Tenno.
This game is awesome y’all
There have been so many people checking out Warframe for the first time recently, and I am so here for it. I have about 2k hours in d2, and about triple that in Warframe. I have taken year long breaks, but I always seem to come back, and Everytime I do, there is a crazy amount of new content to do.
glad to see more players trying warframe
I've been an on and off warframe player since the closed beta and still have my shirt from back then. I've definitely bounced off some updates due to how I felt at the time DE mishandled it but even with that being the case Warframe had always been a comfort game for me I can come back to, play for awhile until something else comes along to take my attention then I take a break from it. I've been spending more time as of late getting all my weapon mods and frames unlocked I want prior to 1999's launch. Found your video through recommendation and I'm excited to see your first descendant video. Cheers. ❤
After 10 years, I finally got burnout recently with destiny; I decided to pick up Warframe for the first time in like 10 years and I'm blown away at how great it is. The grind on this game feels so much better than d2; like I don't have to run a 2-4 hour raid 60+ times to get a specific weapon I want; instead I can grind materials and currencies in various different activities and have my foundry build the item while I do anything I feel like in the game. Even mini games like fishing or mining are fun.
Most new players don't know about this, but there is also mini games you can play, once you install the arcade decoration in your orbiter. Its called Flappybird(?) and Framefighter.
@@nelson2095 Flappy Bird is the mobile game it's based on, the Warframe version is called Happy Zephyr. You can get to it in the Ludoplex (arcade decoration), or if you have Zephyr she has an appearance loadout you can get to it with. There's also Wyrmius in the Ludoplex, which you can get to in similar ways (but the Wyrm sentinel instead), which is a side-scroller shooting thing.
No endgame or aspirational content unfortunately. Just mindless grind.
@@rjmacready6693 Deep Archimedea? Netracells? Steel Path Duviri Circuit? Level Capping? Lich Hunting? Archon Hunts?
@@rjmacready6693that's super subjective to say there's no endgame. To newer players there's actually an endgame to look foward to. If you're a vet or person that understands Warframe very easily, then the "endgame" is completely nonexistent
I'm exceptionally happy to see that you're playing and reviewing Warframe, though I am a little sad that you're only doing it to review TFD.
Warframe is a game of exceptional quality and community, and TFD comes nowhere near as good as Warframe or Destiny 2, even with the state D2 is in right now.
Destiny players have always laughed at the concept of a Destiny killer, because it's a thing that's damn near impossible to exist, but a Warframe killer is quite literally an impossibility, that's how good it is.
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I mean...the "intended way" is 'here's some story, take 30 min for it then come back when you mysteriously unlock the next story, til then figure out what you want to do'
Also having the "content island of MMOs" problem, PVP being dead, and people only being social for open artifacts.
ive seen so many "destiny player tries warframe for the first time" video the last few weeks, wtf happened over there lol? At any rate, welcome to Warframe, its a great game.
Two rounds of layoffs, the higher ups constantly saying it’s our fault for not buying the content to prevent it, lots of promises and ass-backwards changes, an overall lack of empathy and a community filled with toxicity. And not to mention the CEO Pete spent over 2 million bucks on cars.
Warframe is honestly my favorite looter shooter. The story, characters, the community, all of it combined makes for a fantasic experience. I randomly picked up warframe at the beginning of the pandemic and still go back to it off and on.
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I read this comment at the time he read it out. I laughed so hard
8:40 the difference is the value, compare the prices of reactors, 20 plat (2 dollars) on warframe to 20 dollars on first descendant, value of prime access to ultimate, prime giving the currency and more for the value and so on.
Warframe is my second job that I actually enjoy doing
One thing I’ve never loved, but also think is a very interesting approach as a long time player - they do tons of a give-a-ways for engaging in outside of the game content and occasionally they’ll give away actual key parts or build components like a necro mech for example. I only recently started putting actual money into the game as a sign of respect to DE for years of quality gameplay, but over those years, there have been times I’ve been stuck in a grind and ended up utilizing that outside of the game component to progress my real game.
I think it’s interesting that as starting player that might not want put a lot of funds into a game at first, DE gives you this option as a way to keep moving forward or just give you a free frame that can make your grind way easier… It’s a balancing act overall, but it’s an odd approach to QOL that I think is essential to staying on the path.
A lot of games don’t do this, choosing to keep everything in game, but a lot of games don’t have dedicated yearly public events either ;)