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Ginault - Silent Service | A watch to remember for the 1-watch collection
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- A controversial watch that makes other watches look like cereal box watches. This is my full review after seven months of ownership. By far one of the best watches in my small collection and a watch that really could possibly be the one watch collection.
00:00 Introduction
02:10 Specifications
03:20 Dial
04:36 Bezel
06:50 Hands
07:45 Case
08:54 Lume
09:24 Bracelet
11:24 Pros
14:17 Cons
16:32 Movement
17:30 Love/Hate with Homage
18:09 Repeat Purchase?
18:38 Strap Changes
19:40 Final Thoughts
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I ordered one yesterday and am really looking forward to it. I am not disillusioned by the homage aspect and truly feel it is like the Omega 2254.50. My son owns two Omegas and I have none. This watch is as close as I will get. That is fine with me. I do own two Christopher Wards and have one on order (in bronze). This hobby is fascinating!
Nice yes of course the connections are there and that's what makes watches interesting to see the design DNA go from one era to the next and disappear and come back a few generations later. I say you should go bother your son for a watch :)
Good choice on the Christopher Ward, I still think it's one of the better watches I've purchased. I just don't wear it as much due to the overabundance of watches. As always, keep it real.
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I enjoy it immensely! I love every detail of this watch! I truly enjoy it MORE than my Submariner! It brings me joy and even my son straps it on as soon as he arrives to visit. Owning this watch makes me smile!
@@FuneralDirectorJoe Cant wait to get mine 🔥 nice to hear you enjoy it so much
That’s not homage.company love the watch
Great job on the video! I really appreciate all the effort you made with the filming and editing, very professional work. As for the watch, I’ve had a SS for nearly a year and totally agree with your objective assessment and review. Out of my collection, this is one of my top 3 favorites in any price class. Despite the controversy surrounding whomever is behind the Ginault brand, they are clearly a talented watchmaker. When I consider this watch on its own merits, it punches well above its price range. Of course, a watch purchase is an emotional and personal choice. For me, the Ginault Silent Service is a winner. The quality, finishing, feel and accuracy are exceptional for the price. All I can say is, whoever is behind the brand knows how to make a damn good watch. Thanks for doing this review.
Thanks for your words. The SS is still part of my collection and I stand by what I said then and it's just basic knowledge that you just know when you feel the thing in hand. It just has a sense of tactility no other watch has. Well let's see, I haven't heard much about any new watches coming from Ginault the owner is probably just eating up all the $$$ :D All the best from Vancouver, Canada.
Nicely done video. I was so impressed with my OR2 I ordered a SS.
nice that's the way to do it. I've been tempted to pick up OR2 or OR if I can get it pre-owned but not many do and those that do are in terrible condition. I'll wait and see I hope that there is a SSII or well maybe even something totally new. As always keep it real.
I actually have both versions of this the traveler in a no date and the diver and a date with Cyclops these watches are of the highest quality and are extremely beautiful and as another viewer pointed out especially in the daylight the glow-in-the-dark loom rivals Rolex easily
Hi Mr. E! Thanks for your comment and your contribution. I thought about the cyclops as well but I usually am not a fan of cyclops I realized after trying a few from different brands. Maybe later in life when my eyesight is no longer where it is and I find trouble reading but so far I think it makes for a cleaner look but it's not a make or break kind of complication for me. Yes lume is quite good, it doesn't last as long as I like but in darkness it doesn't make a huge difference and is still legible. Overall in my experience so far, I originally really was keen on the idea of lumed bezels but with actual practice I do find the bezel lume to be pretty useless and instead would be happy with a 12 o'cock pip lume. It would be great if they used the lume for the bezel and simply did more applications of lume on the actual indices and hands. That being said since the lume on the bezel of this watch is behind glassware it is different than those that are simply bare. All the best to you and as always keep it real. -Martin
The magical beauty of this watch turns out in indirect light!
Tell me about it! Really does well no matter what situation.
Beautiful watch. I have this model and the build quality is unreal.
Thank you for sharing Jedi391, may the schwartz be with you.
Great video quality! Nice job. And I really love my silent service, too.
Hi Marty great to hear, I haven't heard of anyone not liking the Silent Service once they get it in hand. All the best and thank you for your kind words.
I came back and watched this again, would like the vid 10 times if i coukd! Well done.
haha thanks just once is enough, I appreciate anyone taking any part of their day/time to help push this stuff to YT algorithm gods but at the end of the day I'm not here for views but I do appreciate your gesture. As always, keep it real.
Nice review! The bracelet may be off-the-shelf, but it's a very good one. I've had cheaper glide lock style bracelets before. Some where better than others (e.g., Tisell's), but Ginault's is far better in terms of finishing, tighter tolerances, and the gliding mechanism itself. The end links are also shorter and don't extend the lug distance as much as others do.
Hi BetamaxBabe, I agree with you that the bracelet is probably one of the best for the money and punches well above its weight class. Yes I've also had cheaper glide locks and they all fail miserably as in they don't glide at all instead just kind of skitter along with added force. I think the overall tactility you get from the bracelet is superior than most other brands even those that are asking for more money. The biggest issue I have with the bracelet is the lack of branding which to me smells of products being made for a secondary grey market instead of a tailored and custom job for Ginault. All the best and as always keep it real. -Martin
@@watchluster It would be cool to see their lotus logo on the flip lock or somewhere else. Inverted end links would've been nice too.
Brilliantly done video. I'd like to see this with a vintage style lume.
Hi Christian CBE, thanks for the comment and the watch isn't really suited I think for a vintage style lume in my opinion but that's just me possibly. I wouldn't be against it and would welcome any variations to the watch from Ginault. Maybe the owner will be able to provide some more flexibility in the future with the next watch release and give some added customization to the watch. It would be way cool I think if we could customize the watches even more to suit our tastes considering the watches are hand built anyway why not open up the floodgates on that and give some more power to the consumer.
Thanks again and as always all the best to you and your loved ones. -Martin
Nice review fellow new-ish reviewer! I do agree about this watch-the band is almost certainly a premium quality import. But the watch head itself is one of the very few American made pieces and the quality is top notch. Maybe they did make Rolex apes, but I am with you that people change and if you take this watch for what it is, it is excellent.
Hey WatchDanReviews, welcome to the 'watch' channel club :D
Yea it's for certain that the band is an import or at least sourced to the 'right' type of people that do that kind of work :)
Speaking objectively the watch is a beast of a watch and can pretty much top any other watch in this price range and more so as much as people love to rag on homages and ex-couterfeiters well it's hard to argue against something when it's so obviously BETTER in all regards than most other watches.
It is a sad affair but imitation is often times how we all started to learn and as is said is well the most flattering of all compliments.
All the best from Vancouver, Canada.
-Martin
Got mine second-hand. Great watch! Shame the 3rd party bracelet is not signed, nor has it got solid/female end links. But as you said, these will hopefully be addressed by SS v2.
Yes hope so Chen should finances allow me to I would melt like butter for another SS mark II 🙄
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I have this watch snd i love it.
It has a different feel to the other watches i have.
This watch is quality for the price
Well said, anyone that doesn't think so clearly has never held this watch in hand.
A very stunning watch! I think it’s a beauty for sure!😎😎
Hi Matthew Friend, I definitely agree it certainly is a looker and some may argue there are better but so far I haven't seen any for the price and well beauty is in the eye of the beholder but it is pretty clear this watch is a real stunner just from one glance. All the best. -Martin
@@watchluster absolutely! I’m very serious about picking one up. I think from all the reviews, this is just as good and built as a Rolex Sub. Cheers Matt👍😎
@@matthewfriend6672 I feel the same way order mine last week, can’t wait to get it got to wait 12 weeks but I’m in heard to many good thing about this watch by the way I ordered a Ocean Rover II……..
@@dwightmurray9763 I believe I’m going to order the same piece 😎👍
Super nice. Superb!
Hi Jon yes it is a super watch for sure. I haven't bought another diver since this one as I am satisfied through and through.
It’s a nice homage piece. With those macro lens shots you can see the finishing on the hands and indices isn’t wonderful. At this price point it’s normal. But nothing extraordinary.
If you look at Monta or Formex you’ll get better finishing overall.
This is my opinion
I agree, the Monta and Formex will get you better overall fit and finish but you also tend to pay more for those offerings.
I debated the Monta but none was available that I liked and also to be honest it was a bit too mature for me in terms of aesthetics or at least that's what I thought.
The Formex has also crossed my mind but I never got along with their utilitarian look so much though they do offer some nice decent casual looks it really wasn't for me I realized.
Good points and well received.
All the best from Vancouver, Canda.
-Martin
Hi, great review. What’s the quality like compared to Christopher Ward?
Quite similar, but I would still take the Ginault over the CW. The CW I think objectively takes the win but the Ginault just has the charm and my own bias to make me lean towards it.
All the best from Vancouver Canada.
@@watchluster Thanks for the reply. You’ve blame my decision even harder 🤣 cheers 👍
Yes virtually most dive watches look the same. The only thing that changes is the colour usually. Same boring oyster style bracelet. You can almost hear the boffins in the boardroom saying "yeah make it look like a sub and it'll sell".
Hi Wendy and Geoff, true that gets quite boring with the same old look doesnt it? I know some brands have tried new designs but most seem to just fail and get no traction. Cheers and all the best.
Are you sad? You sound sad😢😢😢. Be happy, it's just a watch. Thanks for the vid
Hi J B, lol no I am not sad I am doing the audio at night when my kids are sleeping so it sounds softer than I usually speak. Thanks for your concern 🤗
Lol you are mad corny af J B lol
So you don’t sign the bracelet makes watch not function are run well really. If run good sign me up who gives damn about what people think the beauty queen
Not worth the price. It is also NOT a chronometer, but merely called this by the brand because of the supposed testing by its own personnel. And for the inflated price of these, they could have used the COSC certified Sellita movement. That would have been a real feather in their cap. There is too much to be suspicious about the provenance of the watches themselves. Hand 'assembled' is a more honest description that ought to be emblazoned on the dial, but that doesn't resonate as well. More than 90% of the components originate from Asian factories.
I have nothing against homage watches, nor do I oppose the Chinese brands and manufacturing. I am of the mind that with continued patronage of Chinese brands, the labour practices and pay will improve - just as it has in the US and Europe over the last century. I am skeptical, however, about the backstory that two American guys spend their days 'building' these watches, when the truth is that nearly everything arrives to their address, from a Chinese factory, with a modicum of assembly. The origin story of the brand is as disingenuous as the replicas they once made and sold. For this reason, it is not a wise expenditure of money when there are dozens of brands out there making the same watch - at a lower price.
Hi Martin, your skepticism is well noted and not totally unfounded. You make some interesting points and I won't really change your mind as it's a free world. What in your mind would be similar in this price range? I can only think of a couple myself and would like to hear your thoughts on what options are out there. Cheers and all the best.
@@watchluster There are so many watches that have similar to superior build quality and materials - where to start? Swiss Military by Chrono; Marathon (Swiss Made); San Martin (w/Sellita); Yema (French Made w/ in-house movement); Zelos (exotic materials in limited editions); Spinnaker (check the Piccard!); Hamilton; Christopher Ward; Long Island Watch; Citizen; SEIKO!
Each one of these companies produce watches for LESS than the price of the Silent Service. A couple of the aforementioned do produce watches exceeding the thousand dollar mark, but in every instance, it is a superior timepiece than what Ginault is ASSEMBLING.
What I have rediscovered over the last couple of years is the joy of watch collecting. However, instead of adding to my collection with expensive Swiss made offerings, I now purchase low and mid-tier options because these brands are proving the possibility of possessing high quality timepieces at a fraction of the price. There is NO justification for Ginault to be more than $1,000 - none. It's a shameless cash grab. They have zero patrimony and seemingly, no path forward. I am uncertain of their commitment.
In the end, there is nothing inferior about their product, but the price isn't justified - not when dozens of companies are making the same watch for 300-$400.
Well damn
@@bidipbo sorry bud, but your just flat out wrong. None of those watches you mentioned have the same build quality as this watch. I've owned many supposed luxury watches, by the usual suspects. All I can say is, this one holds it's own, at a fraction of the price.
@@chrisdonker4771 By your glowing opinion of the watch profiled here, you are echoing my sentiments about the Chinese watch industry since, this watch IS Chinese. The point I have made is that this watch is available from a variety of Chinese brands at a fraction of the price for which Ginault sells it. To be clear, I am not saying this precise iteration is available. I am saying that all of the components are made in China and available in different models, all of which are sold at a lower price.
The Monta Oceanking v3 is better and comes from a legit watch manufacturer.
Different prices I'd say...Oceanking V3 is $3580 USD.
Ginault SS ranges from $1,499 ~ $1,799 USD.
When I first was looking around this time, yes for sure Monta did come across my radar and I almost would have pulled the trigger but they were out of stock.
I'll be straight with you. Monta has always this old look to them not in a good way either, their designs are very boring and generic to my view but there lies the greatest comfort in watch collecting there's always the right watch for you, just so happens that it's not right for everyone.
@@watchluster It's a matter of taste. I've had two Ginaults and liked them. I liked less the goofy text on the dial and the fact that the clasp is unsigned. Your price for the Monta is in Canadian dollars.
$2550 USD Monta Oceanking v3.
Thanks for the correction.
Cheers.
@@watchluster No problem. But it's still too expensive!
Sadly in my current situation any watch is too expensive :)
With my evolution in watch collecting, if I were to spend another 2-3K on a watch I would rather go for manual wound, gold watch used. I have enough diver's and none of them seem to be going to the grave anytime soon.
Looks too busy to my eyes.