Dare to Compare Divers - GINAULT Silent Service vs. ROLEX Submariner
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- For this video Ginault lent in their latest version of the Silent Service diver. I'm going to compare it head-to-head against my personal Rolex Submariner to see how it stacks up.
Please see the Ginault official website for more information and purchase details: ginault.com/
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Let’s also keep in mind that the Rolex costs literally 12x as much as the Ginault. Is the Rolex 12x better?!
True, but only naive people would expect to get a 12x better watch (whatever that may mean). On the other hand, with the Sub you’ll get back your 12 bucks (at least) when you need to sell for any reason. So it’s also another relatively safe way to deposit your hard earned cash. With homages like the Silent, you’ll be lucky to get half what you paid for a few years down the line.
@@shamanprime For those of us who have not been able to get a Sub at the AD, the Ginault is a pretty darn good alternative. And for a watch that's only a grand, I could care less about getting my money back.
No, it’s not. I’d say the Silent Service is about 90% of the Sub at 1/12th the price.
@@nedflanders3769 I agree. Availability is the real deal breaker.
@@shamanprimeyeah. I’m sick of it. I bought a nomos, a grand Seiko and a speedy at the same retailer who still won’t put me even on the list. I’ve started looking for alternatives now and this watch looks nice without being a knock off to the sub. Also considering the monta
I own a Ginault Silent Service and absolutely love it. I’m wearing it right now actually. I’ve been getting the runaround from Rolex for two years, despite having a very good purchase history at my AD. I’m not going to compare the SS to a Submariner but it’s a very high quality watch and I’m extremely satisfied with it. The finishing is outstanding. While it takes cues from the design of the sub, it is not a direct homage, and has its own style. The bezel is outstanding. The clasp is great and I can wear it all day comfortably.
after watching this I am even more convinced most of the price for Rolex is their name and prestige.
@@paulvon2378 Rolex are masters of marketing
This review is spot on! I own the Silent Service, and the OR2 and they really do represent almost Rolex level quality at 1/10th the price. I have never experienced another microbrand with this level of bezel turning goodness so close to what Rolex is doing. Ginault's dial hands and indices are also finely made and well assembled, you can tell the watchmaker puts pride and quality into making the watch. The bracelets that Ginault has is about 85% of what the oyster bracelet is which is already above and beyond what many other brands are doing, keep n mind Rolex bracelet alone is $2500!! I honestly think what Ginault is doing is amazing, superb quality and craft at a very affordable price!
I appreciate your insight into the Ginault watches 👍
I have the Silent Service and a 116610ln-I wear the Ginault as my nice beater. I’d recommend the Ginault to anyone who can’t or won’t spend 10-12k for a Rolex. I love mine 😎!
Great job! Both are nice watches. I understand the lure of Rolex, but the Ginault has something the Rolex doesn't... it's not a Rolex, which I find more interesting and alluring. Subscribed.
You're absolutely right. It's not a Rolex - it is a fake Rolex
Handled both. The Sub is clearly better but not $10k more better. I’d rather have a Tudor BB than a Sub. Imagine misplacing $11k, or having your face bashed in on the street for thieves to take your easily identifiable Rolex. Tudor is the more sane option, under the radar. And this Ginault is a fun option as well if you appreciate good design and quality. Where that design comes from who knows, but a watch can only be done in so many iterations. At some point you’ll have to redo design cues again. I’ve see. What smaller brands try to do with their designs to be “original” but they’re just ugly, original but ugly. You can’t beat old school classic design…it’s why it’s the most popular and the best.
I concur.
That ginault is so good it really makes the rolex look overpriced. Would like them to offer a sw300 option for a small bump in price. This level of finishing deserves better than a 38 hour power reserve.
I'd be first in line if Ginault offered the SS with a Sellita 300.
I’d be second in line after Flanders
That statement is the best way the two watches can be compared. The Rolex is overpriced, which put simply is Rolex is ripping you off.
Or La Joux-Perret
The Monta Oceanking v3 is way better and from a legit brand.
As always for the top brands, when you buy a Rolex you pay for the brand status more then the object itself, take this in mind!
The Silent service is the best 1k watch. You can always pick one up pre owned somewhere for around that price and its a killer piece
A couple things having no part in my views... how the bezel sounds and branding. The bezel sound isn't important to me and never has been. While branding is even less important. It doesn't add or take away the beauty of a watch. I like the ginault and would definitely buy it.
I own a silent service and I agree with your assessment.
Crazy… what? You know it’s not even close. Glad you like the watch but come on. You know it’s not a Sub.
Another great video. I don’t think this takes many design features from the Sub any more than any other modern diver. It has different bezel knurling, sapphire bezel instead of ceramic, different slope on the bezel, no crown guards, different hands, bigger crown, different case shape, etc. If the watch is said to be a sub homage because of the hands being similar to the milsub, then so is the Omega 2254.50.00 and others. There are only so many things you can do to make a unique diver, and all divers share some of the same DNA, just like us. This same conundrum for design and originality also exists in other manufacturing arena such as knives, firearms, 2-way radios, shoes, bags, pens, etc-unless a radical and unconventional design is utilized. In my opinion the bezel action is better on the Ginault; it feels tighter and more refined.
Although I have the ability to see how you arrived at your conclusions, I am just respectfully offering my differing observations to add to the discussion. I always appreciate your expertise and great videos. I hope you are blessed with happiness and continued success.
Thanks, I appreciate your own insight on this video 👍
Great transparency at the start. Well done.
Thanks for the feedback 👍
The other thing is just peace of mind. Your not walking around with a target on your wrist for thieves to spot, which may or may not be an issue where you live. It’s also not such a big deal if you lose it. I think there are lots of people who would just be more comfortable wearing a watch at the Ginault price point.
I agree with all your points! The Ginault is truly excellent and holds its own against the sub in more than one way. Thank you for your comparison of these two awesome watches!
Thanks for your feedback
No logo on the clasp is a miss by Ginalult. Shame about the ghost date too.. Does that movement come in a no date variant? Power reserve is no big deal. We buy automatics to interact with them, otherwise we would be all wearing quartz with its improved accuracy.
well.. I have no ghost date position, because I have the cyclops date version. 😁
Mine stayed on the bracelet for maybe half an hour before I stuck it on a black leather strap. I know, diver and leather strap. But it looks so good!
Never liked Mercedes hands . Wouldn't buy the Rolex .
I agree totally. I have a large watch collection and my favorite dive watch is my sand lume original Ocean Rover with sword hands. I plan to buy a Silent Service soon. My only complaint with the SS is it should have a 70 hour power reserve. If this could be done for a few hundred dollars more it would be worth it to me. The sapphire lumed bezel is a nice touch as well.
Ginaults costs reflects the tolerances and quality of finishing that are required to make a super high quality diver at the most impressive price possible.
I agree... the level of quality and finishing is impressive at the price.
@@nedflanders3769 the most impressive for the price in the whole industry not counting fakes imo
Ginault is a nice watch. Don't ever compare to the SUB though.
No comparison.
I‘d like to weigh in on the Hommage issue. The term, often intentionally, I think, is used far too loosely. In the true sense, a Hommage IMO is a watch that honors a long out of production and hardly available watch by bringing it back in a modern form with updated technical and some own style features. That is a good and morally defensible thing, I would argue. Which is different from a watch that calls itself Hommage but is nothing but an inexpensive copy of a popular model, that brings nothing of its own to the table, and derived its entire appeal from being a lookalike at a cheap price. Here I am firmly in the disapproval camp that has no love for that. What about the Ginault? To begin with, borrowing some isolated design element is not a Hommage. For example, the Rolex Milspec of old was not a Hommage to the Omega seamaster just because it used its hands. The Silent Service, while incorporating a case design similar to a Sub without crownguards, and a dial design that seems derived from a vintage Seamaster, to my eye is a much improved design over the Seamaster that by virtue of its outstanding aesthetics stands on its own feet, with a bezel entirely its own. Add to that the superb logo design which adds to the quality of the watch by virtue of its beauty and execution (as opposed to copy watches where the entire appeal is the copied design, and the logo a boring add-on). So no, the Silent Service is neither a copy nor a Hommage in any sense of the word but a great watch in its own right. What about the OR and OR2 from Ginault? The similarity to the 5 digit Subs is undeniable. Yet, I would argue, many of the models are not primarily a copy. The no date OR model with golden sand lume IMO is a true and deserving Hommage to the Rolex Milspec. The golden sand lume OR model with blue bezel and golden bezel numbers adds design features that no Rolex had. The bezels of the OR2 do heavily borrow from that of the current Rolex Seadweller, yet by combining it with a Sub case, having that highly appealing own logo design and, which applies to all Ginault models, adding another quality of its own, namely offering superb materials and finishing qualities at a very good price, these watches have convinced me based on their own merit. IMO, Ginault offers what Rolex offered 50 years ago: superior quality/price ratio with a highly appealing design, overall creating a package that stands on its own feet. I am a fan.
Agreed... and I've owned 20 Rolex watches. Rolex is overpriced.
This is like comparing Mercedes and a Fiat. Rolex outperforms the Ginault in every aspect including better value for money if that is possible.
For the price, I think I would be looking at Monta instead
The Monta Oceanking v3 is way better and from a legit brand.
When you look close on the ginault there are just too many tool marks on the watch, around the bezel and on top of the case lugs. They are small but for the price that is unacceptable. The Rolex is much more refined watch overall.
Kinetic Continuous is the funniest example of "copy my homework but make it look different" I've ever seen. Ginault really did a good job making Rolex look like the fools they are. Rolex watches are $3000 affairs at best with the lackluster fit and finish they offer. Branding once again "justifies" selling a kidney.
Fun fact: Many claim Rolex invented 904l Steel, while in reality all they do is produce the alloy in their own foundries. Omega used the alloy in the seventies under COMEX's suggestion, about 15 years before Rolex first did.
Especially for the price, the Ginault is just insanity.
But if I am going to have to buy one for myself. I think I'd still go for the submariner.
There is something about that design which makes it more versatile. It just eyes classy enough to still wear it under a suit.
How about a Ginault vs TC submariner ?
Great comparison! Your cat is cute!
i have the same color cat ))
Looks more like the Omega Seamster 300 ref 165.024 than a Rolex.
Love my Ginault Ocean Rover.
congrats on the sub!
You are a rolex fanboy clearly.
Rolex bezel isn't "coin-edged" it's scalloped.
How is the winding action on the genault? I hate the grainy hard resistance of the sw200-1.
Winding action is smooth 👍
SW200 are always hard to wind. Feels very cheap. SW300 are silky smooth.
You're shilling for Ginualt too, huh?
This should be good 😊
What is the warranty on the Ginault Silent Service? I don't see it on their website.
You should compare the San Martin Rolex homage against the silent service you will be surprised especially how much you pay for a San Martin quality is top notch
Shame that Ginault warns against any hand winding.
Not easy to find preowned.
I prefer my high end Seiko or Tudor bezel sound that’s for sure. What mechanism do Rolex and Ginault use?
Ball bearing. And they’re similar. I have both. Seiko and Tudor is also good. All of those are better than Omega bezels lol. Sold my seamasters because they sounded and felt cheap, and also were difficult to service, my watchmaker showed me why they were inferior design to ball bearing design from Tudor or Rolex
No lume pip and unsigned clasp is disappointing on an otherwise stellar watch. As for the Sub, its legacy speaks for itself.
Can't believe my comment has been erased so much for being able to speak the truth I understand most people can't handle it guess that's why my channel is growing so fast. Also can't help but say bueller bueller has anybody seen Ferris bueller lmao
Yet again. Comparing a cheap blatant copy of the Submainer with the real thing.
I wonder why people always belittle Rolex and at the same time worship a COPY?
Because cost is 1/12 but quality doesn't
So basically a copy... a mix between submariner and omega planet ocean... of course is gonna be cheaper. They didn’t spend the money or the time for design and movement development. Please, if you want a sub buy a sub. No need to buy substitutes. Your itch will not be satisfied.
LOL just go into the AD and buy one, right? 😉
Yes it will. I got this sudden desire to buy an automatic watch and focused on the Submariner. While I waited I bought a Silent Service on a lark. I also liked the Ginault story. One day a work buddy saw it and showed me his submariner the next day. I expected a lot more and holding/wearing the Sub was a disappointment. I realized I actuality prefer the Silent Service even though I’m sure the Sub is better, the bracelet integration is better on the Sub for example. The Sub is also more common and has a boring story, and you get that Rolex/douche image. In short, the SS did in fact scratch the itch.
My itch will be satisfied because I prefer this to the Rolex, and also I’ll keep my extra $12k thanks. I don’t suggest you listen to strangers on the internet to convince you to buy an archaic item for the price of a used car because you have an “itch” to scratch. Grow up. There’s better things to do in life. That being said, I have Omegas, Tudors, Rolex…but people over blow how much you “need” a Rolex or Omega. They’re fantastic but they’re not life changing. Only buy what you can afford and keep what you love.
yeah, I have to say that I think the itch has been scratched and the submariner has been scratched off the list.
My next watch will be the much cheaper and every bit as awesome Omega Seamaster. I just wonder what to do with all of the money I’m saving not buying a submariner. Maybe a Speedy as well and still money to spare.
@@driller7714 good choice. I love my Seamaster diver 300 with black wave dial!