Rolex Submariner vs Homages $50 - $1000
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An epic like Ben Hur!! 36 minutes of bargain homage loving gold!
I had a lot of fun with this one. A few months in the making, gathering all of these in the one place, but worth it, I think.
Obviously, a $50 Invicta is only going to get you so close to a Subby, but how close? To be honest, I think the winner here today was the Phoibos, with the Ginault a different kind of second. At $299 the Phoibos is a good watch and does have a degree of similarity with the Roller. The Ginault is frighteningly close in some ways, and wears BETTER than the Roller, but it is over a grand. But when you get down to it, there is only one Rolex Submariner. Deservedly the King of Watches. Cheers, JOMW.
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The original submariner belongs to "Mr X", Jody's alternate ego to hide his expensive watch buys from his wife.
lmao oh my goodness this is good.
@peggy69peggy when you're married, there's no hiding expenses! :D
@@256k_ Agreed! No hiding anything. If you think you have secrets, you are soooo wrong. Thats why I use Invicta. I have to ask permission. I hate sleeping in the garage. LOL
Have you considered reviewing the hyakuichi 101 submarine obviously not the Rolex but it’s a nice watch for 150-180 aud can you give me an honest opinion of that watchive. No idea what the movement is though
My wife ask permission from me to buy things..I'm old school..
Hehehe...the "Rolex Experience."
You know, here at age 51 I have figured a few things out.
The first television I was old enough to remember in our family home was black and white. As a small child, I had no idea I "needed" color, until we got our first color TV.
Just ten years ago, when I bought my current home, I moved over my 36" old school "thick TV. It was only five years old at the time. I had no idea I "needed" LCD and HDTV until a few years later, when I walked through a damned Best Buy.
So, as of RIGHT NOW, I am sure I will be quite happy with my Steeldive 1953 Submariner...unless someone loans me a Rolex fora weekend. So here is my wish: I wish for every friend with a Rolex to keep them to themselves!!! The last thing I "need" is to find out I "need" a $30,000 watch!
Solid advice
Thanks for mentioning my channel and linking to the video I really appreciate it. Happy holidays buddy.
Such goodwill between watch channel youtubers, no rivalries just a shared love for timepieces! The Time Teller mentioned your channel in a live stream earlier today, paid respect to JOMW and its genuinely stand-up guy host.
Thirty seven minutes and it flew by. What a thoroughly enjoyable and informative vid; absolutely first class work.
Without doubt this is the best watch review channel on youtube. The effortless delivery style disguises somebody who is really on top of what they are doing. A class act. I love watching someone who clearly works really hard at their craft (whatever it might be) and then produces work like this. Every word, view counts. No superfluous bloody moozak, no wittering, no fake selling, just honest watch talk.
Keep it going because you are a delight to watch. Quality such as this is rare but much appreciated and 100k subscribers will soon be here and well deserved.
(The Cadisen Conquest by the way is running like a dream and the accuracy is PHENOMENAL. If it stays like this it will be the best thirty quid I have ever spent.Many thanks.)
Tip o' the hat Jody.
247k subscribers now mate haha
Also missing: The infamous Perlative Ceronometer in a price slot to the left of all of the others
I got the gold one it's great haha
P Daddy I love my Perlative Cerenometer. The band I got for it cost twice it’s delivered cost.
Does it come in 40 mm? Mine were 43 mm and of the two, one had a broken quartz movement, the other a badly bent end link channel making for an impossible loose fit. Back in the day AliX would give you a refund.
You guys are starting to drift slowly under the wall.
there's a new one with a chernometer and it's from the year 8500
What an interesting comparison. I hardly dare spell it, for me personally, after the Rolex, the Phoibos is the clear winner here. Thanks!😎
Would like to see a Steinhart 39mm
Terrific review! Packed with tons of educational content and thoroughly entertaining throughout. I bought the Phoibos after your original review of that watch, and I love to see it hold its own in this comparison. Thanks for all your hard work, Jody.
Hard not to like the Phoibos, but I am glad you mentioned the Steinhart. I know a number of people that love the Ocean One 39, and enjoy the subtlety smaller size.
I have the Ocean one 39mm "starbucks" (a colorway they released before Rolex oddly enough) and it is one of my keepers.
As much as I dislike the Invicta, the Seiko NH35 in it is actually doing really well. The rate never varied by more than 2.4 seconds a day in your timing tests. It just needs to be slowed down a bit - you can screw the back off and do that pretty easily yourself. Back in 2008 I bought a Sandoz subbie from the Poor Mans Watch Forum. It was the Singapore version; had a sapphire crystal with cyclops and a Swiss ETA 2824-2 with incabloc, cost $US225 back then. Still runs great. Merry Christmas Jody and fans!
A fantastic comparison review, Jody. I especially liked the side by side parts for each competitor with a suby.
Excellent video Jody! Always enjoy watching one of your productions. Very informative and easy to follow.
The double Squale branding is really important though, there's a decent amount of history behind that! Loved this video: my intro to the world of watches was actually a two tone Invicta, now you shouldn't look at my bank balance!! Love it Jody, merry Christmas!
I converted my scalloped bezel Invicta 8926 to an Omega Planet Ocean homage by removing the Invicta logo from the case, replacing the dial, hands and bezel insert. Total cost of about $140 not including my labor. And I already owned the tools from many other mods.
Cyclops is easily removable with a second or two under a butane torch or a bit longer with a heat gun. Residual adhesive can be removed with a bit of acetone on a rag.
It's overdue saying this but i love the lume comparison, showing how the lume behaves and fades over time.
Just wanted to say that your watch videos are fantastic, interesting, and always entertaining. Thanks!
Owning two Rolex Submariners I can say the Ginault is the star of this group! Bracelet, case, dial, bezel movement and lume are close to Rolex, the unknown movement has worked wonderful for me. Ordered the Ginault when it first came out at a heavy discount just because I wanted to check it out and it's been great, I've even put the bracelet on my early 90's 16610 Sub for a few days and it fit perfectly! Another awesome review!
I love how all of your watches in the background are each fighting for attention xD
I have two color ways of a Nautis sunny homage that only cost me $50 each. They wear great and keep perfect time...because they have a quartz movement. I get more compliments on the green one, but I like the orange one too. No hassle, no worry about banging it around. I’m happy with them both, as well as their big brother chrono. And I absolutely love their stealth diver. It is beautiful!!!
Love your videos. Was wondering if you would turn that comp vid into a triple with the Loreo vs invicta vs the new starking sub I recently saw on AliExpress?!
That can be arrnaged mate..... Cheers!
Great comparison, I was only able to get a hold of the Ginault and Steinhart. Pretty impressed with the quality on both.
How do you figure out what to set a watchwinder at? I've been looking all over.
This is a fantastic video. I loved seeing the comparison of these watches. Thank you Jody :)
Thanks for that - great review. Would really love to see you give the Steinhart a good going over one day?
Does anyone know where I can buy that Phoibos? I'd love to but i can't seem to find it.
Nice video Jodie. I think re: accuracy you give a good indication however i think generally you need to wear them to get a genuine gauge on accuracy.
I was very impressed with this review as you get into the details of movement, crystals, size, bracelets, lume and timekeeping, very good. Its interesting than you test the watches timekeeping using a winder, which isn't a real world comparison. It will be warmer on your wrist, will be kept fully wound all day, then will be left in a variety of possible positions, overnight, running down while it does that. I have a watch with a Seagull ST2130 movement in it (ETA 2824 clone) and it runs perfect all day (I regulated it myself), but will lose or gain up to 2 seconds overnight, depending on its orientation. Currently, if I wear it and leave it 3H overnight, it runs spot on. I bet any of these watches could be regulated to run nearly perfect, the variation seemed to be very consistent for all of them.
Thanks for the review! Although I am not a fan of the Mercedes hands, I admire Phoibos for having a bit of originality to their homage by having the framed date window instead of the cyclops magnifier. To eliminate so much or the weight, I'd pop it on a NATO strap.
Interesting video. Think I will stick to my tried and tested Invicta. I have no issues with the movement, nor do I have a mouse in the middle of it. With the exception of the Phiobos none of the other watches featured are enticing me for their price point.
We need more content in this price segment!
Best value seems to be the Phoibos, have almost bought it before watching your good review, maybe I should have... But I bought a Steinhart instead, 39mm, and even it is not 40mm as you said, I would have been very interested to see it in this video because I am really amazed by the quality of this particular watch. Nice video, subscribed!
Another GREAT/ INFORMATIVE video, and thanks to the fine job you do This Christmas I am celebrating the 1 year birthday of my Phoibos (blue dial) dive watch...LOVE IT!!!!
I do wish you had included the Casio Duro Marlin ($38.00 USD on Amazon) cause(minus the lume) it is a ton of watch for very little $$$.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.
Keep the videos coming 😁
Can we buy this and change the movement to Seiko NH35A or Citizen Miyato? Will appreciate your answer. Could them have ceramic bezel if requested?
I love your shirts and some of them I’d really love to know where to purchase! It’d be great if you could link where you buy each shirt when you feature them on your videos?
Which one is the lightest .and smallest. ( small wrist ).
Thanks
Great videos
I watched your videos regarding the Invicta Pro Diver and because of your good recommendations, I bought a model 8932 (quartz) and hoped for the best! I had it now for about 6 months and only "fiddled" with the watch at the end of the month (when the date had to be chabged) and when we changed from "wintertime" to summertime and... In the whole period the watch was only 1 sec. out - and still is! Not daily, weekly or monthly, but during the whole period! It must be the best "low price" watch I've ever owned! Thanks for the great revue!
I have the Loreo homage piece and it came with an accuracy of 7.7 sec fast/day and for the easiest budget point, the Loreo is a great watch! For $70 delivered, it's a great nice looking budget watch that gets the job done. The movement is great so far! So glad you included this in your review! Thumbs up! BTW, my Loreo sub had settled to about 5.5 sec fast /day and it's been that way for over a month now, happy with it.
Just to add a little. I'm using loreo sub for last 2 years and the movement is really good, doesn't dance around when setting time and about a minute gain per week and still got around 40 hours power reserve. But i miss hi-beat and lume, the second hand feels much smoother and attractive in 28800bph.
I had a Squale 1545 (green one). The bracelet was nice, and the movement felt good to wind. Mine did not have the cyclops though. I did sell it at a profit. I also purchased from Gnomen (great shop, I highly recommend them and Seiya Japan). It felt considerably better that a similarly-priced Seiko.
That Phoibos watch is the best homage
First Jody, nice vid as always. My question: in your opinion how does the Casio Duro (MDV-106) compare to these..? Also, no quartz..?
Jody, how do you accept a bezel that doesn’t line up perfectly? Pausing the video shows that the Majority of these don’t line up exactly 😅
I purchased an Invicta but returned it for this exact reason.
Thanks. 👌
Great video as always Jody, this is a very helpful comparison for people that are looking for a submariner homage! You said you would do it before Christmas and you did! Thank you so much!
Torn between picking up the Loreo or the Orient Ray II
Any advise? 😅🤷♂️
Steinhart Ocean One 39mm with white enamel engraved ceramic bezel insert would place right after Submariner or Squale/Ginault in my opinion. Its a step up from previous version, mine runs +/- 2 sec a day nearly from day one. Flawless.
Ive yet to scratch any crystal on any of my watches. I enjoyed this video though as always! I can tell you about reliability of Invicta. AMAZING. Most of mine are over 6 years. No issues and far from disposable.
My Invicta 8926OB ran for almost 10 years as my daily driver before it began to became erratic to the point I didn’t trust it anymore. I have tons of memories I collected while wearing it and I plan on doing a sapphire to replace the beaten and chipped mineral crystal and I have another new nh35 movement in my desk waiting for the mood to strike me to tinker with it.
Does anybody know of a ceramic bezel I could pop into the Loreo?
Jody, maybe it's the giant Fosters Beer talking, but this vid was a total gem. I'll bet you don't even realize what a great job you did on it. I'd buy you an Iron City (our local beer in Pittsburgh, PA) if you were even close to this continent. Thank you.
The Loreo looks like a great deal, I'm thankful you brought it to my attention!
€70 shipped right now it seems, lots of color options. I may well consider it as my next step after the
Great video, and fantastic choices. Btw, what are you wearing in this video
Love the video, love the honesty, love the referral to other reviews... top notch mate!
Recently bought a Parnis sub and am very happy with it, ticks all the boxes for my price range. That Ginault is a beautiful looking watch; I think for similar money I'd be tempted by the Yema Superman Heritage though ;)
Very good video, well done. I actually have the Steinhart Ocean One 42 mm and I can tell you that I'm very happy with it. Design and quality wise I would prefer it over the Ginault (for half the price), over the Phoibos and certainly over the Squale (which seems to be of less quality in comparison). Really a very good Homage and perfect everyday watch for 1/20 of the Rolex price.
I've got the Loreo Hulk myself. Had it since August. Still keeping good time, no issues. I paid £55 for it. I'm not going diving anytime soon, so the lack of lume pip didn't bother me too much. Overall I'm pretty happy with it for the money.
As for all the other homages in the video, I personally think that the Phoibos is the best value for money.
Great comment. I just pulled the trigger on one (USD $68).
Thanks for the review. I bought the Phoibos PY007 based on your video review of it. I'm glad I did. It's a great watch.
I did exactly the same thing. Bought the Phoibos after seeing the JOMW review. One of my best purchases and favorites in my collection.
Same here mate , what do you think of NTH ? Kind of my current grail watch , I'm a mrCheepo .
What is your favorite value for money? Thank's
Where did You buy it? Cant find it anywhere? Best Regards jesper 😃
Great video. Phoibos is almost perfect. I like the Octopus logo, only thing missing is the raised round pip in the bezel. That detail would truly make the Phoibos the perfect homage.
Hello!! How does the cronos l6005 compare to the Rolex sub? In terms of case shape, design, proportions, etc.. thanks!!!
Congratulations for the channel. You should include in the comparision the OceanX 600 Sharkmaster
Excellent video. I liked the rhythm and the close-ups.
Thanks mate!
2:42 5 watches and I have no idea what time it is.Does that phone service still work...?
Jody I bought a watch body ceramic bezel sapphire glass quality steel body steel screw back I’m buying a Sellita sw 200 tonight for the movement I have a Rolex style steel watch band all for under 280 and I get to put it together why didn’t I do this with all my watches.... what do you think ? A go ? A fail?
It would be interesting if you could do a head to head between the Squale 1545 and Steinhart Ocean One 39.
Do a review on the Didun Royal Oak Homage!!!
Great video, well done! Appreciate the shout out and congratulations on 50K subs!!!
24Hours At A Time love the shout out to Oleg! Two best watch channels on RUclips.
Yes, Two great channels and I also love PERTH WATCH too.
Definite food for thought. Great review. I agree with all your outcomes on this. How about doing a review on "taking the next step" - i.e. you own a budget diver (perhaps Seiko SKX or Orient Ray/Mako) and you want to sell up and get a better piece. Which watches are best?
Have you decided on one of those yet? I'm looking too
I have had a Squale for Y1545 for 6 years and just had it serviced. It’s running -2 secs a day. I highly suggest it for a great first Swiss made watch.
I’ve had a Squale 1545 GMT for about 2 years & it runs -3 sec/day! It’s a great watch.
Can you do a comparison between Pagani Design, Bliger, and Parnis??
Jody, it might be fun to build up a Seiko suby homage, of course the obvious slights would be the clasp, bracelet etc. But the lum would easily compete with the Roli😉, and building one to your spec would be fun!
Great review. I have an old Invicta, but hardly wear it. Might have to tey a PY007
Super happy with my phoibos! I have exact same model as you! Big fan! Happy holidays to you sir!
Hi Jody, have you looked at the Parnis Alpha 03?
where did you buy your watch winders please
I have my Invicta pro divers for 13 years and they run fine. My Rolex cost 100 x more, ran 5 min slow/ day on delivery due to magnetizing, and took 6 weeks to calibrate. It’s in a different league, but is it 100x better?
themightysquid all for the brand name both are great in their own way to invicta you can wear everyday get it scratched and not worry about it
Hello what reference number is the invicta please. Great video!
I have a 6 inch wrist and I'm cosidering geting a Loreo to try the fit of a rolex homage for the cheap, Have anyone with a small wriste have try that watch (loreo)? or, would someone know of a rolex homage that would fit my wrist ?
Between Pagani and Loreo
which design (color or reflection..etc) is better??
The Phobios has such good performance because the movement inside is the Miyota 9015, which is an awesome high-beat (8 ticks per second) automatic. I absolutely love the Miyota 9xxx series, I have a genuine Bulova 96C142 with a 9110 (day date, 24h and power reserve indicator) that gets accuracy of 1-2 seconds per day. Currently looking for another watch with one :)
Did not find your Amazon link
It might just depend which Invicta Pro Diver you get. My parent's got me one as a gift and the loom is very comparable to high end loom
Off topic, but could you please inform us about WATCH WINDERS? I cannot find any that are reasonably priced!
Agree I just end up choosing one out of the case and giving it a shake and setting the time and date ! Except for my genuine Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean which sits in a winder.
Another fantastic video. Wow, that Squale for a brand known for their casing, that finishing is unacceptable.. especially when compared to the Invicta with an already lousy case brush. The Phoibos punches way above it's price point!
Pls make a Rolex Daytona ( Paul Newman ) Daytona Homage comparison video
Love all of your videos and watch each and every one of them !!
Keep it up ❤️
Great video as always Jody (sp?). Superb 2018 on the channel, all the best for 2019.
How about the protos? I think you previously reviewed it.
Where can i buy one of those self winding watches
Please could you do a review of your watch winders. Why you use them, what are the advantages and disadvantages. How much do they cost. Different types etc.
I am currently looking for an homage to the omega seamaster professional 300m aka the bond watch...
I know there is an alpha one, but I dont like the "alpha"
So are there any other options outther?
And also i found the rotary aquaspeed but does anybody know anything about it...
Sekaro makes one, you can get it from AliExpress for about $60. Don't know about the quality of those though.
Nice Abbey Road tee btw ,My late Dad is on the original album cover in the distance in his red and gold milk float
I got a Pagani Design Subby homage today. That might fit somewhere between the Invicta and the Loreo.
Great review, great choices of watches!! 👏🏻👏🏻Congrats on your 50k subscribers, I say well deserved like another subscriber already mentioned!! 👍🏻✔️
For me who turns fifty next year....🙈, I just wait for what year 2019 brings me. I’m saving up as ”hell” besides the morgage and other costs!! Who lives will see, is a good expression!!😉😉But I’m obviously hoping for the Rolex!!💪🏻💪🏻👌🏻
Are there any sub homages with an engraved ceramic bezel (preferably pepsi) and black enamel face? The Ginault bracelet is very very nice.
You should try the Invicta 9937 with sellita movement, less than 300 dollars, sapphire crystal and swiss movement, it can be bought for 170 in black Friday. That's a terrific watch, mine is 10 years old and keeps runing like a champ
Don‘t understand the Ginault pricing. On this range you get a Tag Heuer or Omega used but good conditions and thousand other Swiss automatic watches. Ginault doesn‘t make sense to me.
I ordered the tisell with the date. I thought for 230 was a great price with shipping. I will have to wait a few weeks I think. Mail is super slow this time of year. The PHOIBOS is 70 USD more. Same movement I think. Both 28,800 VPH.Was a hard decision really. Thanks for the review. Nothing really is going to beat the real Rolex submariner but most people it is out of reach and probably why these homage watches do so well. Ginault I took a look at was 1500.00 USD. Before a discount. Congratulations on 50K subscribers!!
Hey how about cracking these things open sometime to look at the movements?!
Fab channel. Well done & happy Xmas 'Scotty'😉
I have a Invicata Pro Diver two tone and a Orient Black Bay and the lumes on the Orient are excellent
Thank you for making this video. You are truly a pioneer. Fantastic video.