Jenni Elle question: what about the accuracy of the fake vs the authentic? That should be the first thing to notice!! Because all that money invested in getting this Rolex COSC and now suddenly I Chinese replica match the accuracy? Impossible 😲🤭
Well done. Enjoying your content. Can you get access to more brands? Would love to see the SeaQ reviewer. Do a podcast with TennandTwo or Scottishwatches to get your story out. This feels like early Bark and Jack, which is good. Introduction the female perspective on traditional mechanical watches.
Just because it looks like a Rolex, doesn't mean it'll run anywhere as well as one. It could be off 20s per day, while the real one is +2/-2s per day. In that case, you'd be better off with a $600 real authentic watch.
The feel part is very difficult to fix. Even at that, they could not regulate the watch to the Rolex +/- 2 sec a day accuracy. That would be too expensive for them to do for the entire production run. These people's goal is to make a quick buck, not perfection in watchmaking. That's why I always say every serious watch collector should own a timegrapher.
killazx9 , I have owned 3 genuine Rolex watches. None of them kept as good a time as my Sieko Chronograph. My last Submariner lost about 2 minutes a week. Would never buy another Rolex. Overpriced junk.
Do people really believe that the fakers don’t know the differences! I hear this on the forums all the time, “don’t tell them” lol, it’s laughable. They know exactly what’s wrong but they just can’t get there for the cost of manufacturing... (for now)
Tbh there are two facts: 1) no one notices our watches except watch fans. 2) they think its fake since you are riding a bus. Sad but true, the only one who appreciates our watches is us or watch fans. I explain my watch obsession with my omegas and rolexes to my wife and family and they cant even tell them appart besides the color differences;(
I'm happy to see they're starting ot get some recognition. I got this same Sub from them a couple of months ago and recently ordered a GMT rootbeer too
It's better to have an original product anyway. It's better to have a decent Tissot than buying a fake Rolex. You will at least have an original, quality product with its own authentic history, proper warranty and after sales service.
@@chingiz499 why not both? I hope I can afford a genuine Rolex one day. But then I also would buy a perfect copy as my daily watch. Then I can confidently wear it, and if someone actually spot it as a fake, I just say it like it is; the genuine one is back home in my safe. Then I don't have to fear scratching the watch.
in the future, fake will be better than the real one. she will say, "you can tell the fake, because fake ones have sharper lettering, smoother movement, and cleaner finish."
lol Chinese in 100years will not be better than fake, it took Rolex 100years to make it perfect and years of experience, because they can fool from the outside does mean great FAKE ... no all is in the movement. From the other hand if fakes be better in your opinion start buying them maybe they be expensive as Rolex one day ... lol
My point exaclty... I have a family friend who works for Rolex, and he told me that to do a Submariner or any other Rolex model for that matter - the amount of raw material used - hand labour and everything else related to the fabrication of the watch, won't cost more than 500 USD to arrive at its final stage .. yeap that's it 500 USD - pretty much the same price of the fake - the only difference is people paying 10000 or 11000 USD at the grey market for this watch, which in my opnion doesn't fit the bill for such a high price... People need to stop being stupid and realize this..
Rolex realized they don't have to be perfect anymore. They have dumb idiots willing to throw out tons of money just so they can say they own a Rolex. If you buy a fake 99.9% of people are not going to know the difference or don't care what what you wear!
@@nomansland120very simple... You pay 10% of the price for a high quality rep and get 99% of the real thing . if rolexes weren't grossly overpriced people wouldn't buy fakes. if they were a more reasonable say three or four grand for a watch the fake industry would be cut down dramatically. 99% of people just want to brag that they have a Rolex . they couldn't care less about the durability and craftsmanship of the watch. We all know there's not 8 to $10,000 worth in a watch.
We need to stop criminals like Ziarex from selling mega-clone replica watches because selling mega-clone replicas with the same serial number as the original watch is illegal.
Once forgot a g-shock in a toilet....once forgot a BB homage at airport security....needless to say, both were never found again. I can not afford to buy a swiss made and then lose it😆wont even try🙏🏽
You're so right, it's getting very hard to see how Rolex can justify their prices when fakes and homages are so good. I think it has more to say about the people that buy the genuine Rolex!
Here's the important takeaway, IMO > If the Chinese replicas are already this close (and likely to get even closer over the next few years), it tells me that most of the cost of a Rolex is in the brand name, not the materials, engineering, or build quality (not to the tune of $10K, that much is certain). Connecting the dots, it also tells me that Tudor is a MUCH better value proposition than Rolex right now.
Oooh yeah...industry experts have calculated that even considering R&D costs and profit the price of a Sub should be around 4-5 k €. Rest is just Rolex pushing out potential customers to market themselves as ever more exclusive. That's why they always push the prices up by 4% or so every January. There's no logical reason to do such a high increase YEARLY.
Yes ! Tudor Pelagos for instance has a better movement than the submariner - 70 hours power reserve, - Titanium case plus a an auto adjustment deployment clasp . PLus the design is much nicer .
Are they really made in Hong Kong ? I'd be surprised, I would have thought somewhere else in China. Probably where there is a lot of watch manufacturing so skilled tradespeople are easy to find.
It's more likely a gen Rolex would have a misaligned rehaut than perfectly aligned one. If I were the replica factory, I would purposely misalign it to stay closer to gen Rolex.
They have the best fakes in Syria. Go there and ask for Deash, tell them you´re christian (you´ll get a better deal) and wait for the result. Or buy a real watch and stop supporting criminals.
To be honest this only matters to people who may want to resell. For someone who will keep the watch and just wear it the $600 option is a no brainer. Videos like these are great for anyone not trying to get scammed when buying and serve a great purpose. But they also provide direction for the counterfeiters to further hone their craft.
They have got a few European consultants helping them perfect some watches. They are getting better every year. I know a retired watch smith in the UK that sold a lot of genuine Swiss watch parts to China. You only have to show them once!
Two weeks, three videos and we still don't know anything about you. It's not every day that a new channel is so refined and well prepared with knowledge and access to watches and this makes it very interesting. How, about a bilated introduction video about yourself and the channel?
@@IDKline Jesus thanks for that. I was like.... "wtf?? how on earth did this channel start with such high production and thousands of subs right out of the gate??" I thought it was a total unknown little german girl trying her hand at a watch channel just for fun and blowing us all out of the water!! haha!! Ok.... that explains the set, the closeups and the subs. Jesus. I felt rather inadequate there for minute. Thanks man.
I wear the new Daytona white face $25,000 I bought it from China for $56 people are always complimenting me and what a nice watch I have you do the math
“Don’t buy fake watches.” Well, I own a two-tone steel and yellow gold 116110 Sub-C, a date just 41 with the jubilee, a steel 116610 Sub-C, and a steel 126600 50th anniversary Sea Dweller. I also own the V8, and V9 Noob Sub-C. After spending just under $42k before tax on my authentic rolexes from only AD’s, I can tell you that buying a fake Rolex that’s damn near just as good as the real ones, is definitely worth it. The novelty of authenticity wears off when you find that the replicas are almost just as good for pennies on the dollar. Take it from a guy that loves the Rolex brand, they’re overly priced. My grand seiko snowflake is a much better watch than any of my Rolex’s and still cost $3-4K less. Kill your ego and buy what you want for the price you want. If I could do it all over again, I’d still buy my Rolex’s, but I’d still buy my noobs because they’re fantastic beater replicas that feel almost just a good!
I am Chinese, I buy both real and fake watches, because often the watch you like is out of stock in the store, or you have to wait, and you don’t know how long it will take, usually only regular customers VIP can get them in advance. At this time, the fake watch can be used as a 1:1 model to play and detoxify, which is indeed a good choice!Of course, China has never stopped cracking down on fake watches. Last year, the famous N factory and VS factory were banned. At present, the C factory (clean factory), the original ZZ factory, is doing well in submariner.
Faketonas for everyone! (In 3 months, after a million messages, 7 unpredictable natural disasters and countless shipping delays which happen to be untrackable)
Nice video. Kind of rooting for the fake watches. They are so close to getting a perfect clone it’s almost art in itself and worth the $600. The closer they get the less respect I have for Rolex. There.... I said it.
@@IDKline I mean that's one way to look at it. The other way to look at it is that for Rolex, in particular you are paying an enormous premium for branding and marketing. It'd wouldn't surprise me to find out that not including R&D the cost of production of a Rolex sub is less than 1k.
I know what you're saying. The cheap (and dare I say, exploited) labour is becoming the main reason not to buy fake. With the quality approaching parity, and even outperforming the genuine article (I think it was Jody's JOMW channel which showed a fake outperforming on the timegrapher) the argument only comes down to not wanting to support potentially dark labour practices.
I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS JUST YOUR THIRD VIDEO! I was about to go binge-watch your channel but I can't just yet! The quality of the videos is top-notch and I'm excited to see more in the future!
Well at least we know your not an American or else you would be Super Excited. Whats up guys i'm super excited by the awesome video ah no not again i've just come.
Her little bit about lying to yourself and how a watch signifies certain things is... presumptuous. I don't wear watches as status symbols. I would tell anyone who complimented me on a fake watch that it was a fake immediately. It's a sartorial and aesthetic decision for me, not a money flex.
The point is towards people who are passing themselves off as real. If you really want to look more, some may be thinking "well I've paid a fraction of a genuine, it looks the same so it's obvious that the price doesn't indicate quality" - which is totally wrong. By the way I'm not saying that's directed at you, but just elaborating more is all
She says don’t buy fake rolex. But won’t say that you can’t find a Rolex anywhere in any dealers and if you want to buy a Rolex, you’re forced to pay anywhere from 3-6x msrp because of the grey market and hiked up prices. I bought a cloned date just and paid 600 for it. I love it. It makes me happy and I’ll wear it until it breaks. In my opinion, buying a cloned Rolex isn’t wrong. It’s wrong whenever you try and sell a cloned Rolex and market it as a real one and lie.
Precisely. My ad pretty much told me to eff off when I had $10k cash to spend. I bought 3 vsf submariners for $500 each and am so glad I did. They're immaculate and indistinguishable from genuine with exact cloned 3235 movements. Rolex shouldn't charge more than $5k for these stainless steel tool watches.
It's a difference between knowing that you're wearing something authentic and working hard to achieve it and buying something that is fraudulent and intellectual theft. But that's ok, as long as you save money
Excellent video and valuable information. Although the gap keeps getting smaller, real vs. fake comparisons are a great way to appreciate the quality of high end watch making. Looking forward to your next video!
A great video that proves how utterly overpriced genuine watches are, let's hope it does its job and persuades people to never buy a genuine watch from these rip off merchants.
I’ve seen genuine with misaligned rehauts. The rest are spot on but to someone who isn’t used to seeing and handling watches is gonna be extremely difficult. The truly scary stuff are the franken ones. They get different parts from different factories( some have better clasps or bezels for example) and add genuine parts like the magnifier and date wheel. Some even have genuine dials and hands, not anymore I think since those parts became extremely expensive but nevertheless some still exist Also, congrats on the videos, real quality!
@Vali Sechi yes, a much better way to tell is to compare the quality of the rehaut engraving quality. Genuine rehauts do not necessarily mean aligned rehauts.
yep, my franken ARF v2 116200 has a ton of gen parts, i got a lot of satisfaction hunting down gen movement parts, bulls eye dial, hands, crystal and roulette date wheel. servicing and rebuilding the movement taught me alot.
Yes yes yes 100% agree. Have seen some monstrous builds and was in awe at how immaculate some of the Franken projects look. Learned so much from reading and engaging with members that I swore not to ever purchase a Rolex from anywhere but the flagship or an AD LOL.
Imagine for a second that everyone in Switzerland has vanished. The only ones that could come closest to remake an authentic Rolex watch are these fake Rolex watch makers.
A very good video. My take away from this is that, yes, the Rolex is a fabulous watch and, no, the replica is in no way its equal. Sadly, this is a mute point if you do not have the £10K + to indulge the difference. Also, the evolution of these replicas is reaching a point where the Rolex is becoming only justified on subjective grounds rather than objective ones.
After long time investigating about replicas, I found my seller for it, name is trustyreps the have best quality, weight same, everything same as originl
Remember one of these watches is $500 and the other is selling for $17,700. Where i live anyway. I know which one id be buying if I really liked the look of the watch.
Your not paying for the general style of the watch. Otherwise, just buy a $10-$20 watch. You are paying for fine European Craftsmanship and Perfection. It's mechanically sound like no other, and the level of detail and attention is so great it outweighs any copier trying to mass produce sell these. This isn't for the everyday man, rolex (and many other high end european watches) is for people who have the money, knowledge, and appreciation of art.
Finally a review where they compare a high end replica against a real Rolex, most comparisons ive seen where with a $50 one which is just silly because you do not need a real Rolex to find out those are fake.
Watching this in 2024 while holding the latest replica Submariner: looks like your list of giveaways has been sorted. The only way my replica dealer could make it feel more authentic is by putting me on a waitlist and forcing me to buy three other unappealing replicas before selling me the one I actually want... five years later.
Please note as well, that post-2016 submariners look different from this one. The newer subC's rehaut is etched to appear with a whitish glow when exposed to a light source. Also, the rehaut is not always perfectly aligned. Some letters may be offset by a couple hundred microns, and this can be especially noticeable with the coronet at 12 o clock
@@IgrarALIYEV2008 It's true tho look it up... if the newwer ones has longer serial number the letterls needed relaignment but on the original it's still every offset is the same unlike on a fake...
When a mere 600$ can do this to $10k..Just imagine if they double their budget, say to 1200$, then you will need a hubble telescope to identify the differences and if they triple say 1800$, god, you might need an electron microscope to differenciate...!! and that will be scary.
actually, you have discoverd how the industry works. replicas are classified into categories of A, B, C degrees. The top knock-offs can be recognized by opening it and checking the mech core or maybe by some very professional dealers on outlooks.
If they doubled their price it would be absolutely the same quality as original one because thats the cost of making these watches. Rest $9000 goes to expensive wine, new cars and hookers with cocaine
A 2k replica would probably have the exact copy of the movement, and it could probably interchange parts with an original watch. There will be no point in buying the original anymore. Well, as if there is now, considering the obscene price policy and waiting lists: it's impossible to actually buy any sports model nowadays just by walking into a shop.
Jenni elle thank you now you have convinced me with all your heart that the difference between fake & real is little and the price difference is a lot ,will definitely buy a fake now thank you 🙏🏼
I have a few reps and a few authentic pieces and on many occasions I have handed someone an authentic Rolex and said "this is a replica" and without fail, the person says "pfft I can tell this is garbage. How are people stupid enough to believe this is real?". And many time I've handed them a rep and said it's authentic to which they say "Rolex products are so well made. You can feel the quality of their products in your hand". Lol
Now this is a great review. Something that a watch enthusiast or first time buyer will definitely find it useful. I am in the camp of replica and homage are the same, the latter just tries to be more ethical by not ripping off the brand as well.
@@DerEchteBabo I don't know who told you noob isn't all that good or why you think that, but it's not accurate. Also developments in the rep world (like the watch world) cause thibgs to change quickly. At the time when I watched this vid and wrote this comment, vsf had never produced a Rolex, they were mainly making Panerai and Hublot. But now VSF is now producing very very very good Rolex reps that are extremely close to the authentic. However, they too have their flaws and to answer your question, I am sure we're going to start seeing these replica vs authentic videos where these content creators are going to be shocked and astounded (even more so) by how good and close they're getting to the real thing.
Easiest way I know is to check the movement. Quality ETA Automatics are used. Plastic movement holders and cheap plastic or rubber gaskets dead givaways. The rattle you hear in any automatic movement is the rotating flange that winds the mainspring. A fake will be inaccurate on a desktop winder, usually fast by several minutes. Rolex movements keep excellent time worn or on a winder. So my main concern is always the complications and movements used. jv. TIME & AGAIN
Most of the methods you’ve described in this video require you to have a genuine Rolex as a reference. Are there ways to detect a fake without already owning the genuine watch?
In a couple of years, you'll be analizing the watch with an electronic microscope to find the difference, and the fake will actually have a better finish. I have an older rolex air king, and the finish is not better than any other watch 1/4 of the price. Oh, Omega is an even better watch, has been so for a number of years.
“As you can see on the real, we don’t have that issu.......... wait....... THIS IS FAKE TOO!” *insert long line of swear words and footage breaking shit here*
The new V6F submariner version is almost a perfect clone of the Submariner. It is way better than this replica in the video. It's really hard to justify spending 10K$ or more for a Rolex when you see how close the replicas are nowadays, and lets be honest, 99% of Rolex owners doesn't care about the movement inside and it would not matter to them if there is a cheap movement inside or a genuine inhouse caliber made by Rolex. The outside is what matters and it can be produced for a very cheap price - the evidences are simply lying in front of you in this video.
@@zseven1419 go to replica watch forum on trusted dealer's you will need to do some research but you will buy the watch you want with 500 bucks with a close 1:1 accuracy with the genuine watch
@@ariskassis i cant find a site that i trust there is 100s t n factory looks good but idk most replicas site are 200 tops but the good one i found are 6 7 hundreed alot of money for a bad fake i want a fake like the fake daytona she reviews to see diff she had to use a microscope
@@derekg2132 The fake is most likely either a clean factory or a vsf watch both are not 200 bucks and closer to 500usd as for sites that you can buy there are 5-6 , but as I said before you need to do your own research on rwg . bz r/reptime and rwi no fake will be a perfect 1:1 all of them have drawbacks some miniscule and others more apparent , don't forget you get a copy of a 12k watch for 5% the price .
@@ariskassis I know that I wanna get a watch from wherever she got thr fake daytona dude she had to use a microscope snd barely see the diff its small I just dont wanan soend 5 6 7 hundred and get a shit replica that is like thr ali express watches thay sound like a damn wind chime and weigh nothkng and look like 5 dollar watches there is plenty of sites with replicas for 190 200 but don't trust em but a 180 dollar mistake is ok versus. 700 plus mistake ya know
It's a high beat eta cloned to like a rolex ,there is one difference you can spot once you know and finish quality not fine enough under a loupe ,but still alarmingly good .
@@Dave062YT Perharps you haven't heard of the SH3135 clone movement - is similiar in almost every aspect to the gen 3135 movement.. if one is willing to spend the money on that and maybe an extra 1000 USD worth of OEM parts you can have an hybrid clone who works just like the real one..
Interesting but you missed a few points 1: Some fakes (new ones) do rattle when shaken, it depends on the movement inside 2: Glide lock on new versions is indistinguishable. I have both 3: Finishing is a moot point as the gen might have been refinished (by the owner) 4: The smal indentations on the back plate on the fake are a quick tell as they are sharp as apposed to polished (on the gen) 5: New date wheels are indistinguishable 6: Fake bracelet link edge finishing is sharp. Gen is rounded 7: Fake no dates are more difficuilt to spot 8: New rehauts line up correctly, however the laser? engraving is still not as smoth as gen 9: Fake winding crown is smoth to unwind, just like gen (I have both) 10: Fakes are slightly lighter, gen certainly feels heavier especially the actual watch.
Honestly, the crown on the clasp of the gen looked like dogshit compared to the rep. I also noticed some pitting on the case of the gen. I've said this in another video. I own both gen and rep Submariner. My gen has more flaws than my rep. Just ask any Rolex owner. These watches are no where near perfect when new. Not even close. The smug attitude from people claiming they are need a reality check. Also, I know plenty of people buy rep's and wear them instead of their gen's. No one is the wiser that the gen is sitting in a case at their house.
Great advert for the replica :) What's the point to be treated like beggar from Rolex ADs, wait years to pay an overpriced watch and probably having (once the watch is finally in our hands) most of the people thinking it's a fake anyway, when you can just get that one that needs at least a 10x loupe and a gen next to it to be called out and only from some real expert? Oh, and they are in general also well water resistant (at least mine passed the 6BAR test with flying colors). Spare those 8k and get a couple of great holidays instead. Anyway, the most visible thing (until they'll also fix this) is the cyclops. There is no "black hole effect" and there is the color hue of the anti reflection. Also: people from rep community will never ever try to sell one of these as gen, and they also report any shady one appearing on eBay and the such, but still, for anyone interested into buying a used gen one, take SUPER care, because not just Rolexes replicas are so good: Panerais, Omegas, Blancpain and many others have impressive replicas around.
Alessandro Guarda Honestly this video made me want a HQ Rolex replica more than ever, it seems most videos only show the awful DHgate variants and it’s pretty obvious the tells. Never knew there was replica watches that actually get to this price margin. I looked into it more and outside of having to pay with BTC and having to pay close to $100 in shipping since they ship it twice, it seems worth it only problem I can think of is how you’d go about servicing this.
@MrTherealpad it's actually rather smart, you can't buy one watch but if you offer to buy one steel along with one with diamonds, you'll get the watches within months. They require purchase of less popular models to get popular ones. And it's giving results as they are rather sought after. I gave up on analog watches after decades in hobby, still keep my collection but my daily wearer is smart watch. Much better for my health and I don't need aura of status message today's watches became.
There are many watchsmiths who can service them, most mount the sh3135 which is a clone of the 3135 and accepts gen parts, others mount the 2824-2836, and they are incredibly sturdy
I have done a fair amount of research about fakes, in addition to buying a couple of ~$100 ones on the gate. In my opinion, it's safe to say that it is an industry primarily aimed at people who want to knowingly wear a fake. There is also a lot of nuance to the world of fake watches, and it is actually pretty fascinating. Imo, successfully replicating something accurately is an impressive accomplishment in its own right, but that is definitely subject to much controversy lol.
Just bought a genuine submariner from Seddiqi and Sons in Dubai 1 week ago...and I seriously wish I hadn't now. I saw what can only be described as a "superfake" 1:1 clone of the submariner yesterday in Karama market. The weight, feel, hand and lock movements etc are literally the same as my original. The quality of the fake is so good that the layered laser etching of the Rolex crown at 6 'o clock in the crystal is present under a magnifying glass. The fake even comes with an up-to-date genuine Rolex box and 2021 retail bag, with certificates that correspond to the serial number on it. The price? $650. Compared to the over $14k I just dropped on the original!! 😂😂
I don't have a problem with people owning a fake and enjoying it. I think the main issue I would have is people selling a fake to someone and claiming it is real. I doubt these fakes really cut into rolex's profits much. Rich people are still going to buy the real thing.
You really have to give the fake manufacturer credit, as she does, for their quality. It is very impressive. The fact that one can have a $600 watch that rivals a $10000 watch cannot be understated. The question I have is the movement. How good is the watch inside?
Don't buy a fake watch? Lmao please. Maybe some of us just like the style but don't think the huge price tag is actually worth it ! I love the style of Richard mille but even if I had the money I don't think I could ever justify spending 300k on a watch. That's absurd. Straight up theft
If you don’t think an RM is worth 300k, then don’t buy it. People who buy 300k RMs don’t mind spending that money cuz 1, they have it and 2, they can get it back selling it maybe even for a profit. Veblen goods have often gone up much faster than inflation. If you drive a Toyota and wear a fake RM, nobody is gonna believe your watch is real. People will just laugh that you bought a fake watch.
You trying to tell me the guy on the street corner in Tijuana wasn't just down on his luck and trying to get money for food by selling his Rolex for $100?
Felt like a detective 🕵️♀️ making this video :D what would you like to see next?
Jenni Elle Great great content and video quality!! Keep it up 👍 what’s next ?? My favourite brands Blancpain o Glashütte maybe Nomos ? 🧐🥇
Jenni Elle question: what about the accuracy of the fake vs the authentic? That should be the first thing to notice!! Because all that money invested in getting this Rolex COSC and now suddenly I Chinese replica match the accuracy? Impossible 😲🤭
Well done. Enjoying your content. Can you get access to more brands? Would love to see the SeaQ reviewer. Do a podcast with TennandTwo or Scottishwatches to get your story out. This feels like early Bark and Jack, which is good. Introduction the female perspective on traditional mechanical watches.
Good luck with this new channel, enjoying every video so far, i would love to see a review of the Cartier Santos
Yay Scotland! Very informative video. Keep them going!
The craziest part of this is the HUGE difference in price, and the SMALL difference in the details. Wow.
This video lowkey exposes how overpriced watches are
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Just because it looks like a Rolex, doesn't mean it'll run anywhere as well as one. It could be off 20s per day, while the real one is +2/-2s per day. In that case, you'd be better off with a $600 real authentic watch.
@@DonLee1980 I don’t use my automatic watches to tell time. I have an iPhone for that.
@@nabetse1999 "overpriced" in this case is a opinion.
Links for the fakes?
Where?
@@jonsmith5354 how is the page bro?
Fakes are also around 2-3K
@@vicranttangde6711 really?! I've yet to see a rep cost over 1k.most are in the $500 to $700 range.
@@skycorrigan6511 The one she is showing, that level of precision, i wont be surprised if someone sells it for the cost of original
Chinese replica manufacturers- “ok, we will make these improvements in the next version”
😂😂😂 my thoughts
The feel part is very difficult to fix. Even at that, they could not regulate the watch to the Rolex +/- 2 sec a day accuracy. That would be too expensive for them to do for the entire production run. These people's goal is to make a quick buck, not perfection in watchmaking. That's why I always say every serious watch collector should own a timegrapher.
Am Chinese. Can confirm... lmao
killazx9 , I have owned 3 genuine Rolex watches. None of them kept as good a time as my Sieko Chronograph. My last Submariner lost about 2 minutes a week. Would never buy another Rolex. Overpriced junk.
Do people really believe that the fakers don’t know the differences! I hear this on the forums all the time, “don’t tell them” lol, it’s laughable. They know exactly what’s wrong but they just can’t get there for the cost of manufacturing... (for now)
give us the website
@REPLICA WATCHES site
Since you asked copying it from internet " have a friend who buys a lot from a site called wristova and talks highly about their quality and service "
I traded my car in for a new Rolex. But now, at least, I get to show it off on the bus.
The guy sat next to you on the bus was quietly laughing to himself as he noticed your ugly Rolex was fake. Should have kept the car.
Whaaaaat!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 thats crazy!
If you catch a bus regularly then everyone will know the poor guy without wheels is wearing a fake Rolex, no matter how genuine it looks 😂
Tbh there are two facts:
1) no one notices our watches except watch fans.
2) they think its fake since you are riding a bus.
Sad but true, the only one who appreciates our watches is us or watch fans. I explain my watch obsession with my omegas and rolexes to my wife and family and they cant even tell them appart besides the color differences;(
hahahahahahah lol
Chrono Select has the best reps out there hands down.
I'm happy to see they're starting ot get some recognition. I got this same Sub from them a couple of months ago and recently ordered a GMT rootbeer too
Shut up bot
The only thing down is the level they are at save your money
This video has convinced me to buy a fake, now I have an extra $13K to invest elsewhere. Thank you..
Mc Kenzi buy a classic vw campervan. Massive investment.
It's better to have an original product anyway. It's better to have a decent Tissot than buying a fake Rolex. You will at least have an original, quality product with its own authentic history, proper warranty and after sales service.
@@chingiz499 why not both? I hope I can afford a genuine Rolex one day. But then I also would buy a perfect copy as my daily watch. Then I can confidently wear it, and if someone actually spot it as a fake, I just say it like it is; the genuine one is back home in my safe. Then I don't have to fear scratching the watch.
and bro no one will know the difference, lol
@@chingiz499 Even the Tissots are fake now. Everything is fake. It's crazy. Don't even get me started on high end cologne/perfume.
Question is: Where can I buy those knock offs?
Right here Francis that’s it that’s if it’s a knock off I’m not sure yet
U can direct mfc in china...it have 5 yrs warranty. Price include freight.
me persanally have 5 watches from that site
What’s the site called ?
Site name?
That videos watch is a mere imitation, not a real clone. Ziarex replica watches are on next level.
Perfect watches
I only buy from them.
Their watches are true masterpieces, 1:1 with no difference from original watches.
I can't buy not even in dream☺
They are criminals from Europe, making the best replicas with the same serial code, but that does not mean you should order it.
in 2 years, the chinese one will already be better than the original.
in the future, fake will be better than the real one.
she will say, "you can tell the fake, because fake ones have sharper lettering, smoother movement, and cleaner finish."
lol Chinese in 100years will not be better than fake, it took Rolex 100years to make it perfect and years of experience, because they can fool from the outside does mean great FAKE ... no all is in the movement. From the other hand if fakes be better in your opinion start buying them maybe they be expensive as Rolex one day ... lol
@@patrickjackob7620 absolutely agree with you)))
And cost $10,000
@Bob Harris You can buy a Chronometer grade real 2824 movement for 300 $ and you can install it inside
igrotum is the only replica factory that operates on United States soil without getting caught by the authorities
Since Igrotum hacked it, the prices of aftermarket watches have dropped significantly.
You have no idea how big this is-it’s changing the replica game for good.
Many thanks to our brothers for doing this for us.
These guys are legends. It’s like they’re rewriting the rules.
Nice, now I know where to buy mine!
Probably it's time to wake up and know that all luxury watches are really overpriced..
Well luxury and overpriced are going together. Check meaning of veblen goods.
There's a difference between luxury and high/exquisite quality. Often the two concepts overlap, but they should be understood separately.
@everyday tenor facts
My point exaclty... I have a family friend who works for Rolex, and he told me that to do a Submariner or any other Rolex model for that matter - the amount of raw material used - hand labour and everything else related to the fabrication of the watch, won't cost more than 500 USD to arrive at its final stage .. yeap that's it 500 USD - pretty much the same price of the fake - the only difference is people paying 10000 or 11000 USD at the grey market for this watch, which in my opnion doesn't fit the bill for such a high price... People need to stop being stupid and realize this..
@@rodris8461 Really?
Many authentic watches have slightly misaligned rehauts. I've seen it myself numerous times. Not a good tell, just FYI.
Agreed! I've also seen many gen Rolex with very slightly misaligned rehaut!
Yup. Unfortunately, many don't realize that.
Rolex realized they don't have to be perfect anymore. They have dumb idiots willing to throw out tons of money just so they can say they own a Rolex. If you buy a fake 99.9% of people are not going to know the difference or don't care what what you wear!
@@stevemathews8429 What's the point of buying anything that is fake? I don't get it..?
@@nomansland120very simple... You pay 10% of the price for a high quality rep and get 99% of the real thing . if rolexes weren't grossly overpriced people wouldn't buy fakes. if they were a more reasonable say three or four grand for a watch the fake industry would be cut down dramatically. 99% of people just want to brag that they have a Rolex . they couldn't care less about the durability and craftsmanship of the watch. We all know there's not 8 to $10,000 worth in a watch.
We need to stop criminals like Ziarex from selling mega-clone replica watches because selling mega-clone replicas with the same serial number as the original watch is illegal.
Someone in the government should do something about it.
This is a serious problem, we must react
CIA, hello!
Cancel them.
I will report them to the FBI
2025: Take out your electron microscope to see that the fake is actually better finished than the authentic one.
I very much agree with you. Specially the bracelet
Maybe there is no need to wait until 2025, in this video 8:57 I see the crown on the clasp of the replica better finished than the authentic.
The crown on the clasp of the fake one looks a lot better than the real one.
Will literally never happen
Once forgot a g-shock in a toilet....once forgot a BB homage at airport security....needless to say, both were never found again.
I can not afford to buy a swiss made and then lose it😆wont even try🙏🏽
You're so right, it's getting very hard to see how Rolex can justify their prices when fakes and homages are so good. I think it has more to say about the people that buy the genuine Rolex!
Vintage Hardware it holds its value well tho
@@Salim_shahidy if you are not looking to sell one then the story is different
Savage
primerolexio is best shopp
Differences are so small it’s virtually impossible to tell the difference ,especially if its on a wrist
False, I can see many thousands of difference.
Nothing false apart from the watch,the fact is go Watch a Watchfinder clip and you will realise its miniscule the gap now
@@davidjack3 Sorry, I mean many Thousands of $Dollars$ of difference. Just that.
Satou im sorry i didnt mean my response to come across as nasty to you ,i see what you mean
😂😂😂👍👍
It’s not for convincing your neighbor, it’s so a buyer doesn’t unknowingly get sold an inauthentic piece
Person: check out my new Rolex
Me: (whips out magnifying glass) Take it off, im gonna do some inspections.
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@@musk7039 I'd like some sperg to do a count of "Pssst. Wanna buy a watch?" people posting to YT videos.
Here's the important takeaway, IMO > If the Chinese replicas are already this close (and likely to get even closer over the next few years), it tells me that most of the cost of a Rolex is in the brand name, not the materials, engineering, or build quality (not to the tune of $10K, that much is certain).
Connecting the dots, it also tells me that Tudor is a MUCH better value proposition than Rolex right now.
Oooh yeah...industry experts have calculated that even considering R&D costs and profit the price of a Sub should be around 4-5 k €.
Rest is just Rolex pushing out potential customers to market themselves as ever more exclusive. That's why they always push the prices up by 4% or so every January. There's no logical reason to do such a high increase YEARLY.
Finishing
It took you that many grey hairs to figure this out..?
Yes ! Tudor Pelagos for instance has a better movement than the submariner - 70 hours power reserve, - Titanium case plus a an auto adjustment deployment clasp . PLus the design is much nicer .
@everyday tenor very well stated. You hit it on the nail. I had similar experience.
Some guy in Hong Kong taking notes 😂
The difference is always in labor quantity and care, which you simply can't get at $600. Especially as China gets wealthier.
Singapore, Shenzhen, etc
Get a new comment.
Now they are too busy fighting for their freedom.
Are they really made in Hong Kong ? I'd be surprised, I would have thought somewhere else in China. Probably where there is a lot of watch manufacturing so skilled tradespeople are easy to find.
That watch is bought on SUPERCLONE WATCH (just google it and you will know what am i talking about)
For the Rehaut lining up on gen Rolex’s, this simply is just not 100% true, it is very common actually for the rehaut to be misaligned
Pretty sure WatchFinder mentioned that even Rolex cocked it up. Remember the 99 error 😁🤣
My gen sub came brand new from the AD with a misaligned bezel. So what your saying is correct
It's more likely a gen Rolex would have a misaligned rehaut than perfectly aligned one. If I were the replica factory, I would purposely misalign it to stay closer to gen Rolex.
Who else watching this so they know what to look for when buying a good fake 😂
Yes sir 😁 would u know any good website to get one of these high end fuks? :D
@@aviokristop9855i heard you can get it here from Reddit puretimewatch.io/
No Case None Get a Seiko
Is this an ARF v3 in the video?
They have the best fakes in Syria. Go there and ask for Deash, tell them you´re christian (you´ll get a better deal) and wait for the result. Or buy a real watch and stop supporting criminals.
These are pretty easy tells, reps are on another level now. The watch I got from Chrono Select is a lot better than the rep you got Jenni.
This was propbably a max 400 dollar fake she wouldn' identify a 1000$ fake...
Someone sold me a fake Rolex submariner no date! For $2000! I bough it with my fake $100 bills..
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Know All 😂😂
Fresh Prince
To be honest this only matters to people who may want to resell. For someone who will keep the watch and just wear it the $600 option is a no brainer. Videos like these are great for anyone not trying to get scammed when buying and serve a great purpose. But they also provide direction for the counterfeiters to further hone their craft.
I have got to say after this video I would definitely buy a copy .the differences are so small and the price difference so massive its a no brainer
“Once we get rid of the coronavirus and back to work, we’ll improve the next gen reps. Many thanks for highlighting these imperfections” - China
No you are wrong. I make savings and donate to george floyd 's family . I need a little Fentanyl man.
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@Know All it has nothing to do. just be clean neet and good smelling. Otherwise we are going straight backwards
They have got a few European consultants helping them perfect some watches. They are getting better every year. I know a retired watch smith in the UK that sold a lot of genuine Swiss watch parts to China. You only have to show them once!
Your going to be waiting a long time.. you cant get rid of what doesn't exist..😉
Two weeks, three videos and we still don't know anything about you. It's not every day that a new channel is so refined and well prepared with knowledge and access to watches and this makes it very interesting.
How, about a bilated introduction video about yourself and the channel?
Concur
@@IDKline Jesus thanks for that. I was like.... "wtf?? how on earth did this channel start with such high production and thousands of subs right out of the gate??" I thought it was a total unknown little german girl trying her hand at a watch channel just for fun and blowing us all out of the water!! haha!! Ok.... that explains the set, the closeups and the subs. Jesus. I felt rather inadequate there for minute. Thanks man.
The Timeless Watch Channel and here I thought her accent was Scottish. I was off the mark!
George Yang haha, I don’t hear too many folk with accents like that here in Fife, perhaps her top influenced you!
@@IDKline Well, that explains it! Thank you for the info.
$1,000 for the watch and $12,000 for the name. I’ll take the $600 fake any day.
Bring two authentic sub, I can tell 6 differences, guaranteed
Underrated comment
Yeah that’s the problem. If you look too hard you spot differences everywhere. Probably even on the same watch
Sounds like a joke. Yea if a fake does it for you knock your self out.
Fake anything says something about your character no?
@@ArslanAndArslan Nope just about your spending power and you love a bit of fun.
Stephen Kelly if you wanna have fun go on holiday
"If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." ~ Wayne Dyer
I wear the new Daytona white face $25,000 I bought it from China for $56 people are always complimenting me and what a nice watch I have you do the math
"And this one time, at band camp." Love it. Gorgeous
After only 3 videos, this is probably my favourite watch channel on RUclips. Great work and keep them coming!
The “replica” market is actually a very interesting and complicated one
What happens when -
China builds a better Rolex than Rolex ?
No one else talking about how you “turned on” the lume like you would flip a light switch? At 3:52. So good!!!
Black light?
@ekim andersom Clearly. I'm saying that it's well thought-out and is a nice effect!
“Don’t buy fake watches.” Well, I own a two-tone steel and yellow gold 116110 Sub-C, a date just 41 with the jubilee, a steel 116610 Sub-C, and a steel 126600 50th anniversary Sea Dweller. I also own the V8, and V9 Noob Sub-C. After spending just under $42k before tax on my authentic rolexes from only AD’s, I can tell you that buying a fake Rolex that’s damn near just as good as the real ones, is definitely worth it. The novelty of authenticity wears off when you find that the replicas are almost just as good for pennies on the dollar. Take it from a guy that loves the Rolex brand, they’re overly priced. My grand seiko snowflake is a much better watch than any of my Rolex’s and still cost $3-4K less. Kill your ego and buy what you want for the price you want. If I could do it all over again, I’d still buy my Rolex’s, but I’d still buy my noobs because they’re fantastic beater replicas that feel almost just a good!
DeMarcus Crooms Where do you get your noobs? I also have authentic Rolex’s but have been waiting to check out the V9 Noobs.
Where do you purchase Rolex replicas? I have an authentic omega chrono, but I’m not gonna drop 7k+ on a Rolex
The Noob V10 has lot of improvements over the V8 and V9. I have own a V9 and V10 and the bezel and platinum is really better on the V10.
Alphons Potters where do you get a V10?
What's a Noob?
I am Chinese, I buy both real and fake watches, because often the watch you like is out of stock in the store, or you have to wait, and you don’t know how long it will take, usually only regular customers VIP can get them in advance. At this time, the fake watch can be used as a 1:1 model to play and detoxify, which is indeed a good choice!Of course, China has never stopped cracking down on fake watches. Last year, the famous N factory and VS factory were banned. At present, the C factory (clean factory), the original ZZ factory, is doing well in submariner.
Ask Chris Essey from Horology House, he will sort you out a sweet sweet Daytona 🤣🤣
Faketonas for everyone! (In 3 months, after a million messages, 7 unpredictable natural disasters and countless shipping delays which happen to be untrackable)
Hahahahaha
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Nice video. Kind of rooting for the fake watches. They are so close to getting a perfect clone it’s almost art in itself and worth the $600. The closer they get the less respect I have for Rolex. There.... I said it.
@@IDKline I mean that's one way to look at it. The other way to look at it is that for Rolex, in particular you are paying an enormous premium for branding and marketing. It'd wouldn't surprise me to find out that not including R&D the cost of production of a Rolex sub is less than 1k.
I know what you're saying. The cheap (and dare I say, exploited) labour is becoming the main reason not to buy fake. With the quality approaching parity, and even outperforming the genuine article (I think it was Jody's JOMW channel which showed a fake outperforming on the timegrapher) the argument only comes down to not wanting to support potentially dark labour practices.
"I live in a one room flat, I have a rusty bicycle, I can't afford new clothes so I by second hand. But I have a ROLEX." Yeah, right ; )
I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS JUST YOUR THIRD VIDEO! I was about to go binge-watch your channel but I can't just yet! The quality of the videos is top-notch and I'm excited to see more in the future!
thank you!! I don't know what's happening :D its crazy!
@@JenniElle Your thumbnail in the Up Next column reeled me in. It was the look of surprise you wear in it.
Well at least we know your not an American or else you would be Super Excited. Whats up guys i'm super excited by the awesome video ah no not again i've just come.
Her little bit about lying to yourself and how a watch signifies certain things is... presumptuous. I don't wear watches as status symbols. I would tell anyone who complimented me on a fake watch that it was a fake immediately. It's a sartorial and aesthetic decision for me, not a money flex.
The point is towards people who are passing themselves off as real. If you really want to look more, some may be thinking "well I've paid a fraction of a genuine, it looks the same so it's obvious that the price doesn't indicate quality" - which is totally wrong. By the way I'm not saying that's directed at you, but just elaborating more is all
She says don’t buy fake rolex. But won’t say that you can’t find a Rolex anywhere in any dealers and if you want to buy a Rolex, you’re forced to pay anywhere from 3-6x msrp because of the grey market and hiked up prices. I bought a cloned date just and paid 600 for it. I love it. It makes me happy and I’ll wear it until it breaks. In my opinion, buying a cloned Rolex isn’t wrong. It’s wrong whenever you try and sell a cloned Rolex and market it as a real one and lie.
Precisely. My ad pretty much told me to eff off when I had $10k cash to spend. I bought 3 vsf submariners for $500 each and am so glad I did. They're immaculate and indistinguishable from genuine with exact cloned 3235 movements. Rolex shouldn't charge more than $5k for these stainless steel tool watches.
So, adjusting the date isn’t as satisfying? I’ll remember that whilst deciding how to spend the $$$ thousands I saved on this ersatz beauty.
It's a difference between knowing that you're wearing something authentic and working hard to achieve it and buying something that is fraudulent and intellectual theft. But that's ok, as long as you save money
Nobody going to take this prat seriously wearing a fake. If you are the type of guy to buy a fake you probably project that image
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Excellent video and valuable information. Although the gap keeps getting smaller, real vs. fake comparisons are a great way to appreciate the quality of high end watch making. Looking forward to your next video!
A great video that proves how utterly overpriced genuine watches are, let's hope it does its job and persuades people to never buy a genuine watch from these rip off merchants.
lol listen to yourself, if no one buys any real watches then there's no fakes for you people.
@@andrewvaughan5686 happy to profit from their stupidity.
I want a real Rolex
For a second there I thought Watchfinder changed narrators.
I’ve seen genuine with misaligned rehauts. The rest are spot on but to someone who isn’t used to seeing and handling watches is gonna be extremely difficult. The truly scary stuff are the franken ones. They get different parts from different factories( some have better clasps or bezels for example) and add genuine parts like the magnifier and date wheel. Some even have genuine dials and hands, not anymore I think since those parts became extremely expensive but nevertheless some still exist
Also, congrats on the videos, real quality!
@Vali Sechi yes, a much better way to tell is to compare the quality of the rehaut engraving quality. Genuine rehauts do not necessarily mean aligned rehauts.
yep, my franken ARF v2 116200 has a ton of gen parts, i got a lot of satisfaction hunting down gen movement parts, bulls eye dial, hands, crystal and roulette date wheel. servicing and rebuilding the movement taught me alot.
Yes yes yes 100% agree. Have seen some monstrous builds and was in awe at how immaculate some of the Franken projects look. Learned so much from reading and engaging with members that I swore not to ever purchase a Rolex from anywhere but the flagship or an AD LOL.
The fake noob v10 have perfect aligned rehauts now...
Watches aren't about feeling and what one has accomplished in life. They're about knowing what time it is.
Imagine for a second that everyone in Switzerland has vanished. The only ones that could come closest to remake an authentic Rolex watch are these fake Rolex watch makers.
Alot of Swiss talent was imported to begin with so it wouldn't really make a difference.
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A very good video. My take away from this is that, yes, the Rolex is a fabulous watch and, no, the replica is in no way its equal. Sadly, this is a mute point if you do not have the £10K + to indulge the difference. Also, the evolution of these replicas is reaching a point where the Rolex is becoming only justified on subjective grounds rather than objective ones.
It is 'moot' point, ffs...
Best way to spot a fake Rolex …when you see it offered for $600 😂😂
After long time investigating about replicas, I found my seller for it, name is trustyreps the have best quality, weight same, everything same as originl
Remember one of these watches is $500 and the other is selling for $17,700. Where i live anyway. I know which one id be buying if I really liked the look of the watch.
Your not paying for the general style of the watch. Otherwise, just buy a $10-$20 watch. You are paying for fine European Craftsmanship and Perfection. It's mechanically sound like no other, and the level of detail and attention is so great it outweighs any copier trying to mass produce sell these. This isn't for the everyday man, rolex (and many other high end european watches) is for people who have the money, knowledge, and appreciation of art.
Finally a review where they compare a high end replica against a real Rolex, most comparisons ive seen where with a $50 one which is just silly because you do not need a real Rolex to find out those are fake.
Watching this in 2024 while holding the latest replica Submariner: looks like your list of giveaways has been sorted.
The only way my replica dealer could make it feel more authentic is by putting me on a waitlist and forcing me to buy three other unappealing replicas before selling me the one I actually want... five years later.
Tbh hers looks more like the cheap 100 bucks turkey replicas now and not the high end ones.
Please note as well, that post-2016 submariners look different from this one. The newer subC's rehaut is etched to appear with a whitish glow when exposed to a light source. Also, the rehaut is not always perfectly aligned. Some letters may be offset by a couple hundred microns, and this can be especially noticeable with the coronet at 12 o clock
Nice try Mr. Chinese
@@IgrarALIYEV2008 It's true tho look it up... if the newwer ones has longer serial number the letterls needed relaignment but on the original it's still every offset is the same unlike on a fake...
When a mere 600$ can do this to $10k..Just imagine if they double their budget, say to 1200$, then you will need a hubble telescope to identify the differences and if they triple say 1800$, god, you might need an electron microscope to differenciate...!! and that will be scary.
actually, you have discoverd how the industry works. replicas are classified into categories of A, B, C degrees. The top knock-offs can be recognized by opening it and checking the mech core or maybe by some very professional dealers on outlooks.
If they doubled their price it would be absolutely the same quality as original one because thats the cost of making these watches. Rest $9000 goes to expensive wine, new cars and hookers with cocaine
You're paying for the brand. And that is worth whatever people are willing to pay.
A 2k replica would probably have the exact copy of the movement, and it could probably interchange parts with an original watch. There will be no point in buying the original anymore. Well, as if there is now, considering the obscene price policy and waiting lists: it's impossible to actually buy any sports model nowadays just by walking into a shop.
One day China will build a better Rolex than Rolex.
At a fraction of the price.
What I really learned from this is that Rolex watches are hilariously overpriced.
Jenni elle thank you now you have convinced me with all your heart that the difference between fake & real is little and the price difference is a lot ,will definitely buy a fake now thank you 🙏🏼
Jenni is probably also wearing a fake.
I have had a fake Rolex Daytona rose gold for 5 years and it still is perfect!
where you get it please ??
@@billycal63wc mine finally died on me. I just ordered another one, haven't gotten it yet
Dont buy fakes she says!!! Id buy a real rolex if the dealers would sell me one. Instead i bought a £1000 hulk that has fooled every jeweller yet
Where does one buy a high end fake rolex?
Please let me know so I can tell people not to shop there.. thanks!
I would definitely tell people to stay away from RWI forums and their authorized dealers list
I have a few reps and a few authentic pieces and on many occasions I have handed someone an authentic Rolex and said "this is a replica" and without fail, the person says "pfft I can tell this is garbage. How are people stupid enough to believe this is real?". And many time I've handed them a rep and said it's authentic to which they say "Rolex products are so well made. You can feel the quality of their products in your hand". Lol
The feeling of accomplishment is relative..to a poor man a 500usd replica is a lot of money and represents an achievement to that person..
Now this is a great review. Something that a watch enthusiast or first time buyer will definitely find it useful. I am in the camp of replica and homage are the same, the latter just tries to be more ethical by not ripping off the brand as well.
Karren wants to tell us not to buy replica watches but has her own one😂🤣
The number of genuine watches with the rehaut misaligned means this can’t really be used
It looks like you have a Noob factory version here. In case anyone is wondering.
Matt Grey ahhh yes I was looking for fellow rep fam👀 haha
@@jaydengerwick8719 we're out here. But much like real life, we're here anonymously, blending in with the gen lovers as much as possible. 🤫
So Noobs which are considered mot that good is here presented as close, what is the VSF then?
@@DerEchteBabo I don't know who told you noob isn't all that good or why you think that, but it's not accurate. Also developments in the rep world (like the watch world) cause thibgs to change quickly. At the time when I watched this vid and wrote this comment, vsf had never produced a Rolex, they were mainly making Panerai and Hublot. But now VSF is now producing very very very good Rolex reps that are extremely close to the authentic. However, they too have their flaws and to answer your question, I am sure we're going to start seeing these replica vs authentic videos where these content creators are going to be shocked and astounded (even more so) by how good and close they're getting to the real thing.
Feels like watching Horology House’s channel but with his wife lol
exactly what i was thinking about
lmfaooo
Lmaoooo 😂🤣
Yeah don’t insult her like that! 🤣
@@shaikhpapi2083 I got 10 fakes they are gteat
Easiest way I know is to check the movement. Quality ETA Automatics are used. Plastic movement holders and cheap plastic or rubber gaskets dead givaways. The rattle you hear in any automatic movement is the rotating flange that winds the mainspring. A fake will be inaccurate on a desktop winder, usually fast by several minutes. Rolex movements keep excellent time worn or on a winder. So my main concern is always the complications and movements used. jv. TIME & AGAIN
Most of the methods you’ve described in this video require you to have a genuine Rolex as a reference. Are there ways to detect a fake without already owning the genuine watch?
In a couple of years, you'll be analizing the watch with an electronic microscope to find the difference, and the fake will actually have a better finish. I have an older rolex air king, and the finish is not better than any other watch 1/4 of the price. Oh, Omega is an even better watch, has been so for a number of years.
If I just like the look but don’t care about it being authentic, why not buy a fake? I’d let anyone that asks that it’s fake.
One day I’m going to watch a video like this that at the middle of the video the creator discovers his “Genuine” it’s also a replica 🤣
“As you can see on the real, we don’t have that issu.......... wait....... THIS IS FAKE TOO!” *insert long line of swear words and footage breaking shit here*
The new V6F submariner version is almost a perfect clone of the Submariner. It is way better than this replica in the video.
It's really hard to justify spending 10K$ or more for a Rolex when you see how close the replicas are nowadays, and lets be honest, 99% of Rolex owners doesn't care about the movement inside and it would not matter to them if there is a cheap movement inside or a genuine inhouse caliber made by Rolex. The outside is what matters and it can be produced for a very cheap price - the evidences are simply lying in front of you in this video.
Whats a good site to get them at
@@zseven1419 go to replica watch forum on trusted dealer's you will need to do some research but you will buy the watch you want with 500 bucks with a close 1:1 accuracy with the genuine watch
@@ariskassis i cant find a site that i trust there is 100s t n factory looks good but idk most replicas site are 200 tops but the good one i found are 6 7 hundreed alot of money for a bad fake i want a fake like the fake daytona she reviews to see diff she had to use a microscope
@@derekg2132 The fake is most likely either a clean factory or a vsf watch both are not 200 bucks and closer to 500usd as for sites that you can buy there are 5-6 , but as I said before you need to do your own research on rwg . bz r/reptime and rwi no fake will be a perfect 1:1 all of them have drawbacks some miniscule and others more apparent , don't forget you get a copy of a 12k watch for 5% the price .
@@ariskassis I know that I wanna get a watch from wherever she got thr fake daytona dude she had to use a microscope snd barely see the diff its small I just dont wanan soend 5 6 7 hundred and get a shit replica that is like thr ali express watches thay sound like a damn wind chime and weigh nothkng and look like 5 dollar watches there is plenty of sites with replicas for 190 200 but don't trust em but a 180 dollar mistake is ok versus. 700 plus mistake ya know
Who pays attention to microscopic details at the club lol... save myself $10,000
Me
You didn't even open the case back!
It's a high beat eta cloned to like a rolex ,there is one difference you can spot once you know and finish quality not fine enough under a loupe ,but still alarmingly good .
@@Dave062YT Give it another year or two, a free-sprung balance is coming.
@@rossanthony7573 I'm sure you're right.
@@Dave062YT Perharps you haven't heard of the SH3135 clone movement - is similiar in almost every aspect to the gen 3135 movement.. if one is willing to spend the money on that and maybe an extra 1000 USD worth of OEM parts you can have an hybrid clone who works just like the real one..
@@rodris8461 Just checked the website where my friend bought his and for $508 you get blue ceramic sub in 904L with SH3135 V3 movement .
Interesting but you missed a few points
1: Some fakes (new ones) do rattle when shaken, it depends on the movement inside
2: Glide lock on new versions is indistinguishable. I have both
3: Finishing is a moot point as the gen might have been refinished (by the owner)
4: The smal indentations on the back plate on the fake are a quick tell as they are sharp as apposed to polished (on the gen)
5: New date wheels are indistinguishable
6: Fake bracelet link edge finishing is sharp. Gen is rounded
7: Fake no dates are more difficuilt to spot
8: New rehauts line up correctly, however the laser? engraving is still not as smoth as gen
9: Fake winding crown is smoth to unwind, just like gen (I have both)
10: Fakes are slightly lighter, gen certainly feels heavier especially the actual watch.
Is not gonna save me 10000$ from buying a fake. It is gonna save me 10000$ from buying the real one...
Great Work Jenni as always ❤️
Honestly, the crown on the clasp of the gen looked like dogshit compared to the rep. I also noticed some pitting on the case of the gen. I've said this in another video. I own both gen and rep Submariner. My gen has more flaws than my rep. Just ask any Rolex owner. These watches are no where near perfect when new. Not even close. The smug attitude from people claiming they are need a reality check. Also, I know plenty of people buy rep's and wear them instead of their gen's. No one is the wiser that the gen is sitting in a case at their house.
Where can i buy reps?
I appreciate you helping us spot a fake but do NOT tell me not to buy one if I choose to!
Great advert for the replica :) What's the point to be treated like beggar from Rolex ADs, wait years to pay an overpriced watch and probably having (once the watch is finally in our hands) most of the people thinking it's a fake anyway, when you can just get that one that needs at least a 10x loupe and a gen next to it to be called out and only from some real expert?
Oh, and they are in general also well water resistant (at least mine passed the 6BAR test with flying colors).
Spare those 8k and get a couple of great holidays instead.
Anyway, the most visible thing (until they'll also fix this) is the cyclops. There is no "black hole effect" and there is the color hue of the anti reflection.
Also: people from rep community will never ever try to sell one of these as gen, and they also report any shady one appearing on eBay and the such, but still, for anyone interested into buying a used gen one, take SUPER care, because not just Rolexes replicas are so good: Panerais, Omegas, Blancpain and many others have impressive replicas around.
Alessandro Guarda Honestly this video made me want a HQ Rolex replica more than ever, it seems most videos only show the awful DHgate variants and it’s pretty obvious the tells. Never knew there was replica watches that actually get to this price margin. I looked into it more and outside of having to pay with BTC and having to pay close to $100 in shipping since they ship it twice, it seems worth it only problem I can think of is how you’d go about servicing this.
@MrTherealpad it's actually rather smart, you can't buy one watch but if you offer to buy one steel along with one with diamonds, you'll get the watches within months.
They require purchase of less popular models to get popular ones. And it's giving results as they are rather sought after.
I gave up on analog watches after decades in hobby, still keep my collection but my daily wearer is smart watch. Much better for my health and I don't need aura of status message today's watches became.
There are many watchsmiths who can service them, most mount the sh3135 which is a clone of the 3135 and accepts gen parts, others mount the 2824-2836, and they are incredibly sturdy
That's stupid. The real one will resale for higher than the purchase price. Your replica ain't worth shit.
I have done a fair amount of research about fakes, in addition to buying a couple of ~$100 ones on the gate. In my opinion, it's safe to say that it is an industry primarily aimed at people who want to knowingly wear a fake. There is also a lot of nuance to the world of fake watches, and it is actually pretty fascinating. Imo, successfully replicating something accurately is an impressive accomplishment in its own right, but that is definitely subject to much controversy lol.
Just bought a genuine submariner from Seddiqi and Sons in Dubai 1 week ago...and I seriously wish I hadn't now. I saw what can only be described as a "superfake" 1:1 clone of the submariner yesterday in Karama market. The weight, feel, hand and lock movements etc are literally the same as my original. The quality of the fake is so good that the layered laser etching of the Rolex crown at 6 'o clock in the crystal is present under a magnifying glass. The fake even comes with an up-to-date genuine Rolex box and 2021 retail bag, with certificates that correspond to the serial number on it. The price? $650. Compared to the over $14k I just dropped on the original!! 😂😂
Well you can still buy the fake and sell the original
I love my replica Rolex. I see no issue with owning one.
yeh why make rolex get richer, they dont even pay taxes, fake charity
I don't have a problem with people owning a fake and enjoying it. I think the main issue I would have is people selling a fake to someone and claiming it is real. I doubt these fakes really cut into rolex's profits much. Rich people are still going to buy the real thing.
juandenz2008 sell them just fine as long you say it’s a replica.
Mind giving me a hint at where to get a replica of good quality? I don't trust most sites to either not rip me off or give a good quality
Frosty2803 I bought mine from a guy that’s gets them in mexico.
You’re doing an amazing job! Such great production value just 3 videos in. Keep it up!
You really have to give the fake manufacturer credit, as she does, for their quality. It is very impressive. The fact that one can have a $600 watch that rivals a $10000 watch cannot be understated. The question I have is the movement. How good is the watch inside?
Damn!!! The quality of video and content is awesome.
Normally you can spot a fake Rolex just by looking at the owners behavior 😂
As the replica improves I'm beginning to wonder if Rolexes are overpriced?
You're paying $3000 for the name, everything after that is probably a legit cost.
@@Dan-gv2zy agree...however the gap is closing...
Don't buy a fake watch? Lmao please. Maybe some of us just like the style but don't think the huge price tag is actually worth it ! I love the style of Richard mille but even if I had the money I don't think I could ever justify spending 300k on a watch. That's absurd. Straight up theft
If you don’t think an RM is worth 300k, then don’t buy it. People who buy 300k RMs don’t mind spending that money cuz 1, they have it and 2, they can get it back selling it maybe even for a profit. Veblen goods have often gone up much faster than inflation. If you drive a Toyota and wear a fake RM, nobody is gonna believe your watch is real. People will just laugh that you bought a fake watch.
I don’t think she meant it like that. I think she meant it in more of a “Don’t get conned” way
When someone wants to give you a bargain on a Rolex, it’s usually a fake.
You trying to tell me the guy on the street corner in Tijuana wasn't just down on his luck and trying to get money for food by selling his Rolex for $100?
Pretty soon the replicas are going to be better made than the authentics. 😅
Watching this while wearing a ZZF v2 lol
Wh zzf and not arf?
bdrhari 23 Zzf v2 is best out of the box in my opinion, arf v3 and noob v10 are great also, but are better if you plan on modding
@@FarikoClass thanks alot bro didnt knew that zzf is so good, whats better in comparison with arf v3?
which one was used in this video
Just checked out RWI. INSANE!