Before you complain about his shifting i hope you realize that backwards shift pattern would mess you up too. He’s driven a truck successfully like that for years. That pattern really messes with your brain. The delay for you to think about what your getting ready to do backwards is very difficult.
The guy who taught me to drive trucks was very firm on reminding us newbies to always have two hands on the wheel. A few months later my friend Wally was driving an old Mack and the front wheel came off. He said if he had not had both hands on the wheel he would have lost it.
That backward shift pattern would only be be easy for someone who has never driven anything with a typical arrangement , trying to unlearn and relearn all at the same time is really difficult I would think !! Keep us up on your travels , thanks for the video!!
I still can't get over how many people own one of these large passenger coach style buses. The are quite a challenge to maneuver in traffic or tight places. And most people simply cannot work on the engines, transmissions or suspensions. But it sure looks tempting to own one - and once they are out on the open road, they are magnificent touring vehicles.The work Scott does is so very rewarding - they are always glad to see him show up --- 😁
I can't get over how quiet the engine is up in the cab area. Nice job! Oh and I don't drive a stick very much anymore but I can see how that pattern would hard to do, too!
Once you understand the mechanical relationship between engine RPM / transmission / gear ratio/ and road speed, you can float the gears on ANY vehicle. It is easier on diesel powered equipment due to the slower RPM range / change, but even a gas powered pickup truck can be "floated", as has to be done when the clutch goes out and you still have 400 miles to go 'til home !!! I was lucky to have a very mechanically minded and seasoned driver teach me on an old White / Western Star, way back when I was only knee-high to a grasshopper. Many mechanics are great at repair work, but it takes a trained and understanding mindset to achieve smooth and quiet clutch-less gear changes. With proper training and some practice, a lot of drivers can master this, but some just never "get it". Beautiful bus ... I hope someone spends the time with these drivers before they do serious damage and don't understand why.
Love that Iowa farm country. Only the strong survive. Great bus Thanks for sharing. Its a shame those old cattle, hay barns are obsolete now. That was a real working livestock farm for several generations.
If you haven't stopped at the World's biggest truck stop, you should. The truck museum there is awsome. Love the videos of these old detroits. I drove a V6, I think it was a 6V92 when I first started driving. Slam your hand in the door and drive it like you stole it. :)
A very nice conversion, and I'd have been 'up the creek' with that shift pattern, too... The Torsilastic-to-airbag retrofit geometry may have been a "pain", however, that test ride was nothing short of a rousing success; it's great to see these classic motorcoaches 'so happily and successfully repurposed'!
I recognized the I-680 stretch of highway( 2- lane due to construction) you showed towards the end that connected to I-29 northbound. 20 miles north of that intersection, you passed within 1 mile of the town where I reside. That`s close, BGM, REAL close ! :) Good Journey to ya `til your next destination !
The world changes when you cross the Missouri River on interstate 90. Would like to see how the old Detroit pull that long hill after you cross the river. Lots of things to see on your way like Wall Drugs, 1880's town, deadwood, Devils tower. Love the black hills, owned property up by Devils tower and boon docked there for awhile after I retired. Wish I was traveling that way myself. Enjoy your trip, no breakdowns and look forward seeing some sites on the way.
I could really tell the difference on what you did to his engine. It sounded really good. Those exposed spinning dive lines are really scary. Living in a farming area and owning tractors with PTOs, I have a VERY healthy respect for them even with shields. Loose clothing and inattention and your arm gets ripped off. Have a safe trip :)
At least, the drives are below a normal level, and below the bumper height. I really love Eagles and Flxible VL-100s. Have had both, but I'm getting a bit ..quite a bit too old to work on them any longer. This is why I like Bus Grease Monkey!
"Living in a farming area and owning tractors with PTOs, I have a VERY healthy respect for them even with shields." Yeah buddy! Those things probably account for more serious farm accidents than anything else.
Scott... another great video, I look forward to see what you're up to, every day now.... you're "addicting". lol : ) I sure hope he gets the hang of shifting a simple 10 spd (and yes, I realize it's reversed pattern)... and stops pre-selecting the "high/low" range before he shifts, or he will find himself stuck in either side of the transmission when the piston calls it quits. I can't believe you drove right by the world famous I-80 TS & museum... unless you've been there & done that, before... ?? : ) Just as a "heads up", Scott... and in case you're not aware (though you might be as they have a facility in Gary, IN) and might happen to be in need for some reason or other, and your going past or through Billings (MT)... just so you know, there is a big Detroit Diesel dealer in Billings heights just off I-90... the 1st exit AFTER the Flying "hook" (J) TS (on the east side of I-90) on the east side of Billings, as you're headed west at Exit 452... which is also the exit for hwy 87 north. It's part of Interstate Power Systems Group (they have 20+ locations in 11 Central & western states), and they still do a lot of the 2 cycle engines there at Billings, for Mining, Buses, Power Generation and Oil field... along with genuine DD Reliabilt Parts. Great bunch of folks there... Just so you know. Their at 1140 main st.(which is also hwy 87 north) - less than 5 min. from I-90 off the west bound side, again at Exit 452. In case you have an issue an need to call them... (406)- 252 - 4191 or (800)- 823 - 4334 (8am - 5pm Mtn. time).. but they have an after hours transfer on the calls for breakdowns, etc. etc. with mutilple road service rigs (and/or towing IF needed) and always have a mechanics on call 24/7. If in Mitchell, you must be headed over across through Rapid (& Sturgis) on I-90.... if you want to save about 90 miles of driving heading towards Billings... cut across 34 & 212 (through Belle Fourche - pronounced Bell Foosh)... the exit for hwy 34 is at Whitewood or you can go west a bit more to Spearfish, and just run Hwy 85 straight north into Belle Fourche ("Foosh"), through town (not a very big town at all... only a few stop lights)... as you're coming out of the north side of town, you will be going up a small incline, and will see a truck stop (use to be Texaco, not sure now) on your right and traffic light.. Hwy 212 will be a left turn at the light (at the Truck Stop). Stay on Hwy 212, it's good running all the way across to MT... and you will go through Wyoming for about 12 miles, then into MT..... STAY on 212... it will end at I-90 just south of Hardin, MT at Custers Last Stand (literally)... from there it's about 1 hour exactly to the junction of I-90 & I-94 (94 ends/begins there) on the east side of Billings at Lockwood. I used to truck out of Billings for years.... and the only people who follow I-90 all the way between Rapid City, SD & Billings, MT.... are those who don't know any better.... which is fine, it keeps the "4 wheelers" from under foot. lol They rebuilt 212 not that many years ago and widened it all out (it is a 2-lane), but there is Very Little traffic on that hwy with the exception of running through the Northern Cheyenne Reservation (not far from I-90 in MT.) for a short bit (pay attention to the posted speed limits through the "res" - they mean it!). It Will save you 90 miles of driving time cutting across 34 & 212.. or 85 & 212, whichever you prefer.... the trucks always ran 34 & 212 heading west from Rapid. Where it's necessary, there are passing lanes on the grades... but there is only a couple of them, and "most" of the semis that cut across that way are the "Bull Racks".... and they "rock & roll" through there... they are "geared to boogie".... and have more than enough power to do it... especially in the western states. Enjoy your cruise!... stay safe.
As a professional freight relocation engineer for 31 years , my advice to the driver is double up or double down on the gears. If you miss the gate split second decision. Double up.
If you have never tried it: Get a spray bottle and fill it with hydrogen peroxide. When you pull off for a break, spray the peroxide on the windshield, on the fresh bug splats. The peroxide will foam up and the bug splat will just fall off the windshield. I tried it for the first time this year and was amazed. But it only works on "fresh" bug splats not the old dried up ones.
I rather like the drive axle in front of the tag. Allows a lot of flexibility for "heart transplants". Maybe not even needing a drop box? Never actually worked on an 01 chassis. Mine was an 05 converted to model 10, including windows, caps and so on. That was 1985 or so!
I had to quit going in there. Found I was losing too much time gawking at all the things in the museum and the chrome shop. There's so much stuff in there besides that, damn near something for anyone's tastes.
After having driven tractor - trailers since 1988, I would say that if I owned a bus like this I would prefer the 9 speed or 10 speed Eaton Road Ranger transmission. I don'r know anything about the Allison transmissions except I have an Allison Series 1000 transmission in my GMC pickup truck. I have driven the newer Detroit DT-12 transmission and those have a delay in engaging that is downright dangerous sometimes.
Drove that route 20 years ago early November and was hit by a major winter storm in Sioux Falls. Intense winds, heavy snow, and devastation throughout the Upper Midwest. Interstate was closed for two days!
Scott next time you get a chance stop at Iowa 80 truck stop they have a big collection of vintage trucks and equipment well worth the stop Have a good day THE GRUMPY BUS
That first shift actually startled me. It sounded like you were running from Godzilla😀. (Not criticizing) i once met a guy who had an el camino and he told me that he rebuilt his 4 -speed transmission, but accidentally put 3rd gear where 4th should have been, so had to re-learn the 3-4 upshift😛
The backwards shift pattern and very little feel with linkage that long and you can't hear or feel the motor ,,you need a good working tach and a good ear to shift that ,,,,But more important you drove by Iowa 80 and didn't stop in LOL and it is nice of Iowa to let you take a free dump
Hi scot couldn't agree more we had a bus at the company I drove for and they had converted it and The shift was all backwards it was a son of a you no what to drive the eagle is a nice conversion but Lenny ls looking sweeeet Regards Derrick
Ever since I became interested in buses, I've been hearing the horror stories about Silver Eagles frames rusting out. I was living in Michigan at the time. Is the issue related to salt on the roads, or something else?
It's a combination of a few different things. Putting dissimilar metals together is one. Road salt and other chemicals used to keep roads clear in the winter is another, and lack of ability or willingness to go underneath periodically to blast away the crap with a pressure washer is something that contributes, too. It's not easy to squeeze under a bus, but it's really helpful if you can get under there for both cleaning, and maintenance purposes. If a person had lots of time, or a mechanic to dedicate to looking after the bus, investing time into the bus will pay off in the return of time that the bus will be able to live and provide service. Actually, that philosophy applies to any vehicle. It sounds like a lot of work trying to keep up with them, but I've found that time invested as you go is always easier than waiting until the vehicle has begun to break down and then find that a whole lot of time, effort, and money is needed.
I think you can tell from the video, as there is very little noise coming from back there. It might also have more sound deadening material around the engine, since you can barely hear it. Nice bus!
Periscope films dropped a 1953 greyhound promo film on youtube recent!y 31 minutes of one of lenny's siblings, they would almost had to have cut the front off of the bus to film it like that.
So do you get better milage now with the four valve head? IE because you have better power, you wont need to be on the throttle as much? I realize it may only be a quarter of a mile better. Yet in diesels that go the miles, that quarter adds up.
lol I've driven a bus/coach with reverse shift pattern (RIGHT HAND DRIVE) Mercedes-Benz bus 303 old Westrail coach/bus for night trip to Morawa nothing wrong shift pattern
Did the Jakes work? Couldn't hear in the test drive, maybe your mic. didn't pick up the sound or did he have his foot on the clutch or the go pedal while he was slowing down (either will turn the jakes off if the micro switches are working) Those GM two strokes sound so good I could listen to them all day and all night. I know you prefer the straight 6's but the 8V71's I drove in coaches (buses) used to run smooth as silk, much smoother than any straight 6 and they used to do between 3 and 5 million miles between overhauls, but they didn't have turbos. The later 6V92T's were lucky to get half that many miles
Someone asked where Scott got his skills training to work on the old Detroit 2 stroke series diesels. I presume he got his hands on a Detroit overhaul manual, they take you step by step through the procedure but the first thing you learn is all the tools required are American, no millimeter nuts and bolts on GM buses. Your talking in excess of $10,000 for tools just to start being able to service your own coach which for Scott was a 4106, the PD 3751 came later. How did he get started as the Bus Grease Monkey? Watch this video posted by Scott and learn the whole story. Gents and ladies? It's a good one that begins at the 15:00 mark of the video. ruclips.net/video/fb8I3xRoYug/видео.html Cheers!
I wonder if it would be possible to come up with a mechanism to reverse the X and Y axis of that H pattern. Having a 10 speed in a bus is cool, but that pattern has to be HARD to get used to. Especially if you drive anything else with a standard H pattern.
Mitchell, South Dakota? Did you go to The Corn Palace? I stopped there and walked around the outside of it on my way to Mt Rushmore, it was interesting enough for a roadtrip stop.
I knew this one operator in Dubbo NSW, Australia that would send 80,000kg road train on 2400 km trips pulled by a 6V92...........must have been flat to the floor all day.
shreddder999..... in his case, using the clutch or not... would not have helped. He was over-shooting the gate and was trying to get it into 2 gears up, from where he was.... and reving the engine to try and get it in... was the wrong thing to do in that case. Truck tranmissions (NOT the new AMT's that are ignorantly called "automatics" that do all the shifting for today's - Phony, wannabe "truck drivers") use Straight cut gears (Non-synchro), and using the clutch or not... will Not stop the grinding, if the engine rpms do not match the gear set speed on your shift (up or down). Either he forgot about testing the jake and didn't "arm" it... or, it wasn't working.... I suspect the former, considering that neither one of them said anything.
I'm always surprised at how quiet these buses seem in the driving videos, especially yours and this one. Are these conversion buses heavily sound deadened or are old buses quieter on the inside than I thought?
heh, Iowa-80, I've ordered LED replacement lamps from my 4103 from them. Now please don't ask me if I've installed them yet, or how many years ago that the order was received... 🙄
Why is there a 13 speed shift lever on a 10 speed transmission? Red button is the high side splitter. Is it really just a 10 speed or is he not aware that's what that button is for? It won't do anything on the low side of the box. FYI If it was an 18 speed the left button would be blue, 15 speed would be black.
J Griff I saw the same thing and had the same thought! They just don’t build busses like Lenny anymore, he is such a handsome hunk , I just can’t stand it!!! You ought to be very proud of yourself Scott for everything you and your son and wife have done for Lenny to get him back on the road and to the point he can burn these roads up again across this country!!! Well done sir!! I’ve got to get a patreon account set up soon!!!
What happen simplicity? There was nothing wrong with cable driven. Now everything is servo and actuators. Diagnostic and repairing vehicles is so much more difficult with modern vehicles.
@@BusGreaseMonkey Driven plenty of fuller 10 speeds. I figured it was probably something like that. 13 speed would actually be even better. It would give him more on the top end, and increase his fuel mileage on the hiway. Thanks for responding.
Why is the tranmission shift pattern backwards anyway? now my guess is that the transmission is facing backwards? I seem to remember last video someone said it was converted to a 10 speed and that the tag axle was flipped, was it flipped to adapt the transmission?
Before you complain about his shifting i hope you realize that backwards shift pattern would mess you up too. He’s driven a truck successfully like that for years. That pattern really messes with your brain. The delay for you to think about what your getting ready to do backwards is very difficult.
The bus may have been sitting for a while, have to cut the guy some slack. A little double clutch action, practice makes perfect.
He will get it, Skip shifting will help, no need for the clutch, when the RPM's are right it will drop right in.
It’s his bus. He can shift it the way he wants.
He will make a great repeat customer for the transmission change or differential repairs. It’s a Detroit it will shift easily going to 2100 at least.
Bus Grease Monkey I hope he picks it up soon, or else he will have a box of neutrals..
The guy who taught me to drive trucks was very firm on reminding us newbies to always have two hands on the wheel. A few months later my friend Wally was driving an old Mack and the front wheel came off. He said if he had not had both hands on the wheel he would have lost it.
So neat getting to see around some of these large pieces of property with barns and stuff. Many never get to see that stuff! Thank you
That backward shift pattern would only be be easy for someone who has never driven anything with a typical arrangement , trying to unlearn and relearn all at the same time is really difficult I would think !! Keep us up on your travels , thanks for the video!!
I still can't get over how many people own one of these large passenger coach style buses. The are quite a challenge to maneuver in traffic or tight places. And most people simply cannot work on the engines, transmissions or suspensions. But it sure looks tempting to own one - and once they are out on the open road, they are magnificent touring vehicles.The work Scott does is so very rewarding - they are always glad to see him show up --- 😁
Beautiful clean conversion. Love the acoustic ceiling.
I can't get over how quiet the engine is up in the cab area. Nice job! Oh and I don't drive a stick very much anymore but I can see how that pattern would hard to do, too!
Once you understand the mechanical relationship between engine RPM / transmission / gear ratio/ and road speed, you can float the gears on ANY vehicle. It is easier on diesel powered equipment due to the slower RPM range / change, but even a gas powered pickup truck can be "floated", as has to be done when the clutch goes out and you still have 400 miles to go 'til home !!! I was lucky to have a very mechanically minded and seasoned driver teach me on an old White / Western Star, way back when I was only knee-high to a grasshopper. Many mechanics are great at repair work, but it takes a trained and understanding mindset to achieve smooth and quiet clutch-less gear changes. With proper training and some practice, a lot of drivers can master this, but some just never "get it". Beautiful bus ... I hope someone spends the time with these drivers before they do serious damage and don't understand why.
Love that Iowa farm country.
Only the strong survive.
Great bus
Thanks for sharing.
Its a shame those old cattle, hay barns are obsolete now.
That was a real working livestock farm for several generations.
If you haven't stopped at the World's biggest truck stop, you should. The truck museum there is awsome. Love the videos of these old detroits. I drove a V6, I think it was a 6V92 when I first started driving. Slam your hand in the door and drive it like you stole it. :)
That bus is badass
Beautiful photo of your bus at the end.
Love that interior. A fabulous bus that now sounds as good as it looks.
A very nice conversion, and I'd have been 'up the creek' with that shift pattern, too... The Torsilastic-to-airbag retrofit geometry may have been a "pain", however, that test ride was nothing short of a rousing success; it's great to see these classic motorcoaches 'so happily and successfully repurposed'!
Nice, clean and well layed out.
Nice looking conversion, and that engine sounds soooo good and smooth now! The ride looks like typical Iowa farm life everywhere!
I like the white interior, looks more modern.
A good free dump always makes you feel better.
I recognized the I-680 stretch of highway( 2- lane due to construction) you showed towards the end that connected to I-29 northbound. 20 miles north of that intersection, you passed within 1 mile of the town where I reside. That`s close, BGM, REAL close ! :) Good Journey to ya `til your next destination !
Wow your cranking up the miles It's sure nice to be Young----- wish i was again enjoy it for us who cannot. thanks for the great trip.
He seemed to be getting smoother as he went along. Crazy shift pattern plus double clutching isn't easy..
Beautiful weather for bussing around:)
The world changes when you cross the Missouri River on interstate 90. Would like to see how the old Detroit pull that long hill after you cross the river. Lots of things to see on your way like Wall Drugs, 1880's town, deadwood, Devils tower. Love the black hills, owned property up by Devils tower and boon docked there for awhile after I retired. Wish I was traveling that way myself. Enjoy your trip, no breakdowns and look forward seeing some sites on the way.
Beautiful bus, I like the layout.
Felt the hair stand up on my neck and cold chills on some of those shifts.......
nice bus! great tour!
The corn and bean crops look good! They made it through the bad weather! WillyB
I could really tell the difference on what you did to his engine. It sounded really good. Those exposed spinning dive lines are really scary. Living in a farming area and owning tractors with PTOs, I have a VERY healthy respect for them even with shields. Loose clothing and inattention and your arm gets ripped off. Have a safe trip :)
At least, the drives are below a normal level, and below the bumper height. I really love Eagles and Flxible VL-100s. Have had both, but I'm getting a bit ..quite a bit too old to work on them any longer. This is why I like Bus Grease Monkey!
"Living in a farming area and owning tractors with PTOs, I have a VERY healthy respect for them even with shields."
Yeah buddy! Those things probably account for more serious farm accidents than anything else.
Scott... another great video, I look forward to see what you're up to, every day now.... you're "addicting". lol : ) I sure hope he gets the hang of shifting a simple 10 spd (and yes, I realize it's reversed pattern)... and stops pre-selecting the "high/low" range before he shifts, or he will find himself stuck in either side of the transmission when the piston calls it quits. I can't believe you drove right by the world famous I-80 TS & museum... unless you've been there & done that, before... ?? : )
Just as a "heads up", Scott... and in case you're not aware (though you might be as they have a facility in Gary, IN) and might happen to be in need for some reason or other, and your going past or through Billings (MT)... just so you know, there is a big Detroit Diesel dealer in Billings heights just off I-90... the 1st exit AFTER the Flying "hook" (J) TS (on the east side of I-90) on the east side of Billings, as you're headed west at Exit 452... which is also the exit for hwy 87 north.
It's part of Interstate Power Systems Group (they have 20+ locations in 11 Central & western states), and they still do a lot of the 2 cycle engines there at Billings, for Mining, Buses, Power Generation and Oil field... along with genuine DD Reliabilt Parts. Great bunch of folks there... Just so you know.
Their at 1140 main st.(which is also hwy 87 north) - less than 5 min. from I-90 off the west bound side, again at Exit 452. In case you have an issue an need to call them... (406)- 252 - 4191 or (800)- 823 - 4334 (8am - 5pm Mtn. time).. but they have an after hours transfer on the calls for breakdowns, etc. etc. with mutilple road service rigs (and/or towing IF needed) and always have a mechanics on call 24/7.
If in Mitchell, you must be headed over across through Rapid (& Sturgis) on I-90.... if you want to save about 90 miles of driving heading towards Billings... cut across 34 & 212 (through Belle Fourche - pronounced Bell Foosh)... the exit for hwy 34 is at Whitewood or you can go west a bit more to Spearfish, and just run Hwy 85 straight north into Belle Fourche ("Foosh"), through town (not a very big town at all... only a few stop lights)... as you're coming out of the north side of town, you will be going up a small incline, and will see a truck stop (use to be Texaco, not sure now) on your right and traffic light.. Hwy 212 will be a left turn at the light (at the Truck Stop).
Stay on Hwy 212, it's good running all the way across to MT... and you will go through Wyoming for about 12 miles, then into MT..... STAY on 212... it will end at I-90 just south of Hardin, MT at Custers Last Stand (literally)... from there it's about 1 hour exactly to the junction of I-90 & I-94 (94 ends/begins there) on the east side of Billings at Lockwood. I used to truck out of Billings for years.... and the only people who follow I-90 all the way between Rapid City, SD & Billings, MT.... are those who don't know any better.... which is fine, it keeps the "4 wheelers" from under foot. lol
They rebuilt 212 not that many years ago and widened it all out (it is a 2-lane), but there is Very Little traffic on that hwy with the exception of running through the Northern Cheyenne Reservation (not far from I-90 in MT.) for a short bit (pay attention to the posted speed limits through the "res" - they mean it!).
It Will save you 90 miles of driving time cutting across 34 & 212.. or 85 & 212, whichever you prefer.... the trucks always ran 34 & 212 heading west from Rapid. Where it's necessary, there are passing lanes on the grades... but there is only a couple of them, and "most" of the semis that cut across that way are the "Bull Racks".... and they "rock & roll" through there... they are "geared to boogie".... and have more than enough power to do it... especially in the western states. Enjoy your cruise!... stay safe.
that eagle runs a long smooth and quiet.
Sounds like he may have been pressing to hard on the clutch peddle and getting the clutch brake, been there done that. Enjoyed the video bro
He wasn’t using the clutch
As a professional freight relocation engineer for 31 years , my advice to the driver is double up or double down on the gears. If you miss the gate split second decision. Double up.
That bus pulls like an 8V92.
Thks for sharing . Enjoy the journey with ya.
If you have never tried it: Get a spray bottle and fill it with hydrogen peroxide. When you pull off for a break, spray the peroxide on the windshield, on the fresh bug splats. The peroxide will foam up and the bug splat will just fall off the windshield. I tried it for the first time this year and was amazed. But it only works on "fresh" bug splats not the old dried up ones.
That shift pattern would drive me crazy!
Robert LOL!
nice conversion
Awesome 👍 job 👍as always Scott, I'm really into your son's channel as well can't wait for the next job .!!🖐️
I rather like the drive axle in front of the tag. Allows a lot of flexibility for "heart transplants". Maybe not even needing a drop box? Never actually worked on an 01 chassis. Mine was an 05 converted to model 10, including windows, caps and so on. That was 1985 or so!
the only problem he is having with nhis gears is rushing the shifts. double clutching would help too. great bus and great video!!!!
She sounds good 👍
The Iowa 80 Truckstop, now the World's Largest Truckstop
I had to quit going in there. Found I was losing too much time gawking at all the things in the museum and the chrome shop. There's so much stuff in there besides that, damn near something for anyone's tastes.
I’m only 25 miles from Long Grove. You need to stay longer, because we really need the rain and it seems to follow you!
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Bus runs quiet and smooth and fast.
That was quiet, except for that fricking fan. lol
After having driven tractor - trailers since 1988, I would say that if I owned a bus like this I would prefer the 9 speed or 10 speed Eaton Road Ranger transmission. I don'r know anything about the Allison transmissions except I have an Allison Series 1000 transmission in my GMC pickup truck. I have driven the newer Detroit DT-12 transmission and those have a delay in engaging that is downright dangerous sometimes.
Drove that route 20 years ago early November and was hit by a major winter storm in Sioux Falls. Intense winds, heavy snow, and devastation throughout the Upper Midwest. Interstate was closed for two days!
Nice work Scott!
Your bus is booking right along with traffic flow now it looks like .
You put a new meaning to the saying, I gotta take a dump.
Float those gears! What a great bus that eagle is! Yours should run faster now that the load has been lightened😂
Scott next time you get a chance stop at Iowa 80 truck stop they have a big collection of vintage trucks and equipment well worth the stop
Have a good day
THE GRUMPY BUS
Hey, I tuned in to hear the jake.... :)
And I like your old bus a lot better than that "modern" stuff. ;)
Great job !
Great work thanks for coming to Iowa
That first shift actually startled me. It sounded like you were running from Godzilla😀. (Not criticizing) i once met a guy who had an el camino and he told me that he rebuilt his 4 -speed transmission, but accidentally put 3rd gear where 4th should have been, so had to re-learn the 3-4 upshift😛
Funny, I find Iowa countryside looks like Holland.
Another Happy sand, That dump at the rest area they will sell it back to someone as nature gas. LOL, stay safe !!!
Walcott,IA. Been there many times over the years.
not sure why he needs that house, that bus is a palace
The backwards shift pattern and very little feel with linkage that long and you can't hear or feel the motor ,,you need a good working tach and a good ear to shift that ,,,,But more important you drove by Iowa 80 and didn't stop in LOL and it is nice of Iowa to let you take a free dump
Hi scot couldn't agree more we had a bus at the company I drove for and they had converted it and
The shift was all backwards it was a son of a you no what to drive the eagle is a nice conversion but Lenny ls looking sweeeet
Regards Derrick
The western part of Montana is known as little California. Because so many Californians moved there.
Northern Arizona has just as many if not more. And they bring their cruddy driving habits too.
Awesome chanel😁
Ever since I became interested in buses, I've been hearing the horror stories about Silver Eagles frames rusting out. I was living in Michigan at the time. Is the issue related to salt on the roads, or something else?
I have a 1982 eagle with very little rust. Depends how well it was taken care of
It's a combination of a few different things. Putting dissimilar metals together is one. Road salt and other chemicals used to keep roads clear in the winter is another, and lack of ability or willingness to go underneath periodically to blast away the crap with a pressure washer is something that contributes, too. It's not easy to squeeze under a bus, but it's really helpful if you can get under there for both cleaning, and maintenance purposes. If a person had lots of time, or a mechanic to dedicate to looking after the bus, investing time into the bus will pay off in the return of time that the bus will be able to live and provide service. Actually, that philosophy applies to any vehicle. It sounds like a lot of work trying to keep up with them, but I've found that time invested as you go is always easier than waiting until the vehicle has begun to break down and then find that a whole lot of time, effort, and money is needed.
If still interested in one. Try looking for the Scenic Trailways buses down in the Southern region of the U.S.
Keep grinding hamburger, they'll make em out of rubber next year.....
Can tell he's driven some equipment in his day. Cool bus, like the idea with the sound panels on the roof. Could you tell if they had any effect?
I think you can tell from the video, as there is very little noise coming from back there. It might also have more sound deadening material around the engine, since you can barely hear it. Nice bus!
@@zackreuter6344 Never trust video, and especially audio.
It does help I think. Now we dont hear the rain so bad!
My subwoofer cone was wobbling all around on this video. Lots of low end here.
Periscope films dropped a 1953 greyhound promo film on youtube recent!y 31 minutes of one of lenny's siblings, they would almost had to have cut the front off of the bus to film it like that.
So do you get better milage now with the four valve head? IE because you have better power, you wont need to be on the throttle as much? I realize it may only be a quarter of a mile better. Yet in diesels that go the miles, that quarter adds up.
lol I've driven a bus/coach with reverse shift pattern (RIGHT HAND DRIVE) Mercedes-Benz bus 303 old Westrail coach/bus for night trip to Morawa nothing wrong shift pattern
most South Dakota rest areas also have dump stations
Did the Jakes work? Couldn't hear in the test drive, maybe your mic. didn't pick up the sound or did he have his foot on the clutch or the go pedal while he was slowing down (either will turn the jakes off if the micro switches are working) Those GM two strokes sound so good I could listen to them all day and all night. I know you prefer the straight 6's but the 8V71's I drove in coaches (buses) used to run smooth as silk, much smoother than any straight 6 and they used to do between 3 and 5 million miles between overhauls, but they didn't have turbos. The later 6V92T's were lucky to get half that many miles
Mitchell SD. Home of the famous Corn Palace.
would double clutching help some of the shifting? he's not doing bad really. I couldnt do it!
He needs to get his revs up to shift. He is trying to shift it like a car.
Someone asked where Scott got his skills training to work on the old Detroit 2 stroke series diesels. I presume he got his hands on a Detroit overhaul manual, they take you step by step through the procedure but the first thing you learn is all the tools required are American, no millimeter nuts and bolts on GM buses. Your talking in excess of $10,000 for tools just to start being able to service your own coach which for Scott was a 4106, the PD 3751 came later. How did he get started as the Bus Grease Monkey?
Watch this video posted by Scott and learn the whole story.
Gents and ladies? It's a good one that begins at the 15:00 mark of the video.
ruclips.net/video/fb8I3xRoYug/видео.html
Cheers!
I wonder if it would be possible to come up with a mechanism to reverse the X and Y axis of that H pattern. Having a 10 speed in a bus is cool, but that pattern has to be HARD to get used to. Especially if you drive anything else with a standard H pattern.
Mitchell, South Dakota? Did you go to The Corn Palace? I stopped there and walked around the outside of it on my way to Mt Rushmore, it was interesting enough for a roadtrip stop.
The excavator in the view at 3:57 looks like a DROTT, and it would likely also have a Detroit Diesel engine, based on the time period.
nice bus
I knew this one operator in Dubbo NSW, Australia that would send 80,000kg road train on 2400 km trips pulled by a 6V92...........must have been flat to the floor all day.
his bus rides pretty nice ,what is his suspension copared to your bus?
Looks like "Hope county" :-D
Please use the clutch!! I thought one of the tests was supposed to be the Jake brake.
Clutch is for starting and stopping that's it
shreddder999..... in his case, using the clutch or not... would not have helped. He was over-shooting the gate and was trying to get it into 2 gears up, from where he was.... and reving the engine to try and get it in... was the wrong thing to do in that case. Truck tranmissions (NOT the new AMT's that are ignorantly called "automatics" that do all the shifting for today's - Phony, wannabe "truck drivers") use Straight cut gears (Non-synchro), and using the clutch or not... will Not stop the grinding, if the engine rpms do not match the gear set speed on your shift (up or down).
Either he forgot about testing the jake and didn't "arm" it... or, it wasn't working.... I suspect the former, considering that neither one of them said anything.
@@bocephusmcclintock3871 Let's see what Eaton Fuller has to say: ruclips.net/video/4ndy43WH_lc/видео.html
grind em till you find em!
I'm always surprised at how quiet these buses seem in the driving videos, especially yours and this one. Are these conversion buses heavily sound deadened or are old buses quieter on the inside than I thought?
heh, Iowa-80, I've ordered LED replacement lamps from my 4103 from them. Now please don't ask me if I've installed them yet, or how many years ago that the order was received... 🙄
Did i miss it, I didn't see/hear him testing the Jake Break during the test drive?
Why is there a 13 speed shift lever on a 10 speed transmission? Red button is the high side splitter. Is it really just a 10 speed or is he not aware that's what that button is for? It won't do anything on the low side of the box.
FYI If it was an 18 speed the left button would be blue, 15 speed would be black.
Welcome to SD @BusGreaseMonkey
Love watching and learning, what kind a investment would it take to get into an Eagle or MCI before any conversion?
Do you still keep a dslr handy when you are traveling? If so what kind of body and lenses do you bring?
On your bus did I see the drivers window rolled down when you were at the dump station? Curved window roll down. To cool.
J Griff I saw the same thing and had the same thought! They just don’t build busses like Lenny anymore, he is such a handsome hunk , I just can’t stand it!!!
You ought to be very proud of yourself Scott for everything you and your son and wife have done for Lenny to get him back on the road and to the point he can burn these roads up again across this country!!!
Well done sir!! I’ve got to get a patreon account set up soon!!!
What happen simplicity? There was nothing wrong with cable driven. Now everything is servo and actuators. Diagnostic and repairing vehicles is so much more difficult with modern vehicles.
How many Miles can you get off a new set of Tires Steve any Idea? Beautiful Ole Bus.
Why is the shift pattern backwards ? Is that a linkage thing ? Also, that is a 13 speed valve on that shifter.
The trans is from a semi. It’s now flipped around backwards in the back of the bus.
@@BusGreaseMonkey
Driven plenty of fuller 10 speeds. I figured it was probably something like that. 13 speed would actually be even better. It would give him more on the top end, and increase his fuel mileage on the hiway. Thanks for responding.
See the Corn Palace
Why is the tranmission shift pattern backwards anyway? now my guess is that the transmission is facing backwards? I seem to remember last video someone said it was converted to a 10 speed and that the tag axle was flipped, was it flipped to adapt the transmission?
It’s a truck transmission that is supposed to be in front of the driver and it’s now behind, so it’s backwards.
11:54 king pins were so bad, how was that!? LoL
Your bus was a Greyhound right?
Curious as to why shift patterns are backwards. Because engine is a pusher?
That trans and engine came from a truck. It sits in front of you. If he sat backwards in his seat the pattern would be fine.