I both agree and disagree. Trying to figure out the pattern and screwing up multiple times is what makes the journey so grand. It's a game with only boss battles. If you could figure out and defeat each in five minutes, the game would be quick and unremarkable. Definitely in my top five of all time.
streetmagik only exception I can think of is when the colossi just wont use the actions required to climb it Gaius’ swing (wonder why he doesn’t do that instead of slowly walk towards me just to stomp or thrust straight down LOZ master sword style) Ol’ thunderhorns of the lake (not Hydrus the eel, PS4 remake) Phaedra/horse bro (please just peek your head down... please!) Hydrus loves heavy metal music (PS4 remake, ok this isn’t a complaint with Hydrus it’s just... I freaking love this colossus for one reason... when I get close to his head after disabling all electric spikes, sometimes he’ll bug out and instantly duck below the water at the speed of a ramming Celosia and rise above the water yet again just to keep repressing this animation unless I CLIMB my way to the vital spot, hence the heavy metal joke... like I said this is why I love Hydrus, only that)
it took me like three days to figure out the cryptic tile stomp thing how was i supposed to know the tiles didn't look special since they where in all the place and Argus's feet didn't look special either they looked just like Valus's or Barba's so when i figured that out BY ACCIDENT i had the problem of figuring out the elbow thing to make him drop the sword and then it was easy
It reminds me of that one ProZD video “Was poop dragon supposed to be hard” “GIT GOOD” “I beat it in one try” “ If You Think Poop Dragons Hard You Should Never play Diarrhea Souls” “GIT GOOD”
The 4th one wasn't even *that* hard, like. The ons underwater was tricky but non is really hard. It's a pretty easy game, for a lot lol. But the control sucks ass. I'm getting so frustrated at it all the time. And the horse.
Wait, you were climbing on Phaedra's BRAID's? Why did you deliberately take the hard route? Moreover, why take the challenge route you set for yourself and then complain about it?
Lol I climbed Phaedra's braids when I first played the game when I was like 6 or 7. Idk how the heck I even managed to figure out how to get on top of the thing. I just recently found out that you were supposed to climb Phaedra's "tail" because Dormin said something about "Deceive the Colossus and climb on from behind" or something like that.
Yeah, the other way is basically the same thing, but instead of going to the braids, you just go to the rear, which lowers while Phaedra is looking down
i'm playing through the remastered 2018 version, never played before...and I lucked into this route but it was surprisingly easy. I got curious about whether Phaedra would climb on top of those hills....then I was like...."oh...there's tunnels in here...what happens if I go in here?" and then as I was about to come back out I saw the braids dangling there and I thought "huh, should I jump on those?"....climbed up....easiest colossi kill so far...
stingy I don't get why he hates Argus. he is my number one cause you have to think and he is more agressive than other colossi. and his music is awesome. very fitting for the premutual boss
Syyborg Gaming Nothing's the wrong way due to this game being physics based. Going up his braids is a speed run tactic, like having Gaius fling you onto his head when he brings up his sword.
Theres 3 ways to go up to it 1: Its braids from the outside or inside the caves 2: Its tail when its distracted from behind obviously 3: The hardest but fastest From its legs from jumping off Agro its hard but i first saw it on the Phaedra's World Record of Time Attack
+Syy Turns out I did it in a way more "wrong" than you, I waited at the entrance of the cave I went in till he put his head down then climbed the braids. Toatally agree with him being the worst only fight I actually hate.
You gave some pretty bad reasoning when it came to why they were good or bad. I'm not going to go into every single colossi on your list, but one that got me was the electric eel. The game explains to you right after you beat he first colossi that Shrines are save points. They're literally some of the only things that are in the waste land besides trees and lizards. If you didn't know that you could save there, then that was completely your fault since the same clearly told you. Also, regarding the electricity. You don't even have to use the light from your sword to see that there are weak spots right in front of each and every horn. They're literally big, green / purple-ish spots that stick out like a sore thumb. The timing is incredibly simple (She comes up from the water every so often, giving you way more than enough time to stab the weak point) and the fight in genuinely one of the easiest (If not, the easiest) in the entire game. TL;DR: Git Gud/ Learn 2 Read
Dannyillo962 Correction: The game doesn't EXACTLY say they are save points. Dormin very SIMPLY and GENERICALLY says "praying at these shrines will heal all wounds". Reading that, almost every player would assume they simply heal you. I knew the were save points because I watched jacksepticeye's playthrough before I had the game, & for a time, HE didn't know they were save points (& SotC is his favorite game, which says something). Also, he was talking about Hydrus' range of the shockwaves, not her weak spots. It's hard to tell if you're safe or not when she submerges, so falling off & needing to swim over to her when she surfaces again can become tedious. But I don't entirely disagree. A few of his points made little sense. Phaedra certainly wasn't hard for me. Her attention span was actually pretty narrow for me, the fight not taking long at all, even if I fell. Dirge's fight was certainly a challenge for me, but that's only because I barely used the bow, so my aim sucked. It wasn't poor mechanics.
that is true but it took me til the 5th colossi to figure out how to actually save. that is only because i saw someone do it in a video on how to beat one of them.
HolyCross9 if you play the game, trust me you WILL get least favorites. Some colossi are so rage inducing! Before I played the game, Gaius was my favorite, but good GOD do I hate it now, it never is in the right spot to smack the thing and I end up having to go back around and lure it further away and try again. Celosia has gone from one of my least favorites to one of my favorites, simply because of how fun it is to fight, as long as you don't touch the ground.
Daniel Neary If i had a dollar for every time i ended up fucking myself over cause i ended up on the ground and then get spammed by constant ramming until i died
*Are the colossi innocent?* Many players feel guilt for killing each colossus but are the colossi themselves innocent? After all, they all embody the imprisoned spirit of *Dormin*, who tricked *Wander* into releasing and reviving him. Dormin is unquestionably the antagonist of the game but Wander is also antagonist-protagonist. Certainly there are some colossi that are more aggressive both visually and in terms of attack than others; *Dirge* and *Celosia* are prime examples, making them appear less innocent but you already kill many colossus before you reach them so they may know your intention or they are territorial. However, others such as *Phalanx* and *Avion* are far from aggressive, and act purely out of defence and self-preservation. The real issue lies in whether the colossi are entirely possessed and animated by Dormin or whether they are actually separate entities that Dormin happens to have been imprisoned within. The fact that the idols that line the corridor in the *Shrine of Worship* are of the colossi and not of Dormin suggest that, at some time, the colossi existed and were, literally, idolized by the natives that built the shrine and ruins within the *Forbidden Lands*. This may mean that they once existed free of Dormin's presence within them, suggesting that perhaps, at some point in history, they had been genuine living creatures with no association to Dormin. My theory is that, it could mean that the statues were created long before Dormin and the native of the land use them to worshiper their spirit guardians or gods before they use them to housing the parts of Domin's power. If this were the case, then it may be possible that through Dormins sealed power, the *16 colossi* came into being as living incarnations of the individual idols after having Dormin's power sealed within them.
I think the colossi were there before Dormin as well, and they were the guardians of a once great civilization. Judging from the worn down/spaced out ruins, the area has been abandoned at least several millennia. And the legend surrounded the Forbidden Lands and Dormin. I think Dormin was a corrupt person of royalty/government, who did terrible black magic to ascend to godhood. Perhaps wiping out an entire nation of people, and storing himself in the colossi (almost like horcruxes)
+GlitteryGecko *The legends surrounding Dormin's abilities and the Forbidden Land suggest the long period of time the Forbidden Lands have been in that state, as well. Only people like priests or mages that have studied for their entire lives would know more than whispers and rumors about the Forbidden Lands.
Like, animating stone, nature, and architecture already bespeaks a great and deep power, the source which may be unknown, but one that can very easily be abused if put into corrupt hands. that's just my opinion, though.
Sleudgehammer Wait he slams his fist down? I beat him by climbing back up and dropping down to his armed and the rings around it and dropping down to his palm. Just goes to show how you can tackle situations differently in this game.
I agree with most of your list, but disagree with most of the points made. Shadow of the Colossus is a puzzle game, and certain Colossi not having their weaknesses immediately obvious was a huge part of the fun for me. I'm also not sure what's goin on with your struggles with Phaedra; all you have to do is get its attention, run into one of the tunnels, and by the time you run out the other side, he'll have investigated the opening and be in prime position to jump on. Wasn't hard for my first playthrough, and has only been easier since then :P Also, don't you spawn right outside the fights if you die during any of them? I'm pretty sure the point about having to backtrack through the world to get back isn't a thing (but it's also been a long time since I've died in the fights, so I'm not 100% sure)
"all you have to do is get his attention run into the tunnels and by the time you run out the other side, he'll have investigated the opening" unless he isn't in the perfect possition when i played it i knew i had to do something with the tunnels but when he was following me i got into the tunnels got out of the opposite side and he was chasing agro i tried again and he wasn't following agro but he was minding his own bussiness (i think you write it like that) so i assumed it wasn't like that and i had to jump from agro to his tail or braids in the perfect time so he would be close and i was on top of the tunnels running with agro i couldn't do it so i started again with the tunnel out of despair didn't work so i just gave up then i searched it up and surprise you had to do the tunnel thing but he had to be in a certain possition i don't like the fight maybe i had bad luck or something or you had preety good luck but i just don't like it
I hated how he put Argus on the second worse because he's my favorite Colossus. And as you said, the fun in the game is figuring out how to beat the Colossus. Not just blandly climbing him and stabbing him. More so figuring out how to get onto him in the first place so that you can kill him.
I agree the point of the game play is to figure out how to climb the Colossi. I wish the sword never showed the paths and weaknesses. It would been also fun to explore and find the Colossi.
ArchTalko you spawn in the nearest shrine. It's useful but a lot of people (including him, probably) ignore the things which is why they get frustrated when they die, because they just ignore Dormin's advice.
Nicolas Roman Segura even if he's not in the perfect position it will get into it eventually, it just takes some time. He first turns back and forth to se if you're not anywhere else, then it stomps on the thing to try to get you out of there, and when that doesn't work, he peeks in to try to see you. You just gotta observe his patterns and BE PATIENT.
Falling off Malus, couple of hours to get back up? Dude, it takes just a few minutes, chill with the exaggeration. You also don't need to use the sword to locate the weakspot, and then shoot Malus weakspot. After I stabbed his back I grabbed his arm, climbed up and stabbed the spot without knowing it beforehand, then grabbed his second hand and jumped to the top and to his head. You make it way harder than it needs to be. PS: Obvious weaknesses isn't necessary a good thing.
#5 Worst- I really like Dirge like a lot of people, I never had any of the issues you said however I understand your reasons. #5 Best- I agree. #4 Worst- I respect your opinion though I really don't get why you hate him. I understand the part about Celosia and Cenobia being similar but I think it's unfair just to hate a colossus for it's size and position in the game. #4 Best- Again I agree and I also had the problems with climbing and weakpoints you did. #3 Worst-By no means my favourite but again I don't get why you hate him. I never struggled with the timing and I don't get what you said about having to go all the way back to it 3 times. I recently played it on PS2 and every time I died to a colossus I just respawned at the start of the battle without using save shrines. Unless you were playing the PS3 version and it's different or Hydrus is the only colossus that does this I don't see your problem. #3 Best-I love Gaius however I don't think he would make it into my top 5. #2 Worst-I absolutely hate this colossi. It's one of the only 2 I hate next to Celosia. As well as what you mentioned I first thought the second sigil was on it's back and fell off like a dozen times trying to get to it. And a dozen times I had to climb the area again and again and again. It was the colossus that took me the longest to beat by FAR. #2 Best-I agree again. Avion is easily one of my favourites if not my favourite overall. #1 Worst-Not my worst but the worst out of the ones I like as in #14. This fight was actually incredibly short for me(maybe I just got lucky or maybe it's because I grabbed onto it's tail which seems easier) and for me it was probably the least memorable fight in the entire game even bordering boredom. #1 Best-I liked Phalanx and he would definitely be in my top 5 though I don't think he's the best overall like a lot of people.
9:26 Actually, there IS one other way up to his head: Go up from his ledge-like backside of a tail. It's arguably his most obvious entryway, only inaccessible because Phaedra's pretty much what'd happen if a Colossus, a giraffe and a horse had a three-way.
"If you haven't played the PS3 remaster, what are you doing with your life?" I haven't played PS3. Nah I'm off playing the PS4 remastered version bro. How 'bout you?
I'm extremely surprised that Basaran wasn't in the 5 worst. He was SO freaking annoying. I actually haven't continued my Hard Mode playthrough in a few months just because I have to fight him next.
Alpha Bulblax I agree but for me, Basaran is actually tolerable compared to some others. In my opinion, I think Pelagia is the most annoying cause of how you have to try to constantly swim around to climb on its back and half the time you fail cause that blind bitch has fucking ESP or some shit. I'm positive that one time my game glitched where it always knew where I was or that I couldn't sneak around it no matter how many times I tried or where I was. The game knew I didn't like Pelagia so it decided to dick me over.
Gonna have to politely disagree with your Cenobia/Celosia opinion. While I adore each in their own way, I really enjoyed the puzzle aspect of finding my way around the ancient city vs. trying to dodge constant head butts lol
Hydrus was also INSANELY difficult to even FIND for me on my first playthrough. However, all the serpent collossi are really cool looking, if a bit tricky to deal with at times
ummm... dude? you have to grab onto phadras tail, not its braid things. I mean, its the first thing you see when running towards phadra. But i agree with where you put him, i really hate that guy XDD
Honestly, the only colossus I truly disliked was number 11, Celosia. It was so frustrating to me that even as the armour was gone, you still could barely stab it because it shook so much. At least Cenobia could be stunned by making it run into a wall.
The braids on Phaedra aren't the main way to get on to him, they are a difficult shortcut for people who do time trials. You are supposed to climb his tail
Soc is a pretty bad game though when compared to any other decent game ever made. It has only 16 boss fights as the gameplay of the whole game and about half of them are not fun in the slightest, the controls and camera suck most of the time making the lackluster gameplay worse, and there is almost a complete lack of story beside the opening and ending scenes and even then it’s not that remarkable. Portal 2 is far superior to this game.
I actually kinda like Phaedra. It was the first Colossus that gave me the dread feeling. Here, I'm seeing a giant blade-legged, armored giraffe walking at me like it's doing a goddamn Sanic impression and I run and hide in the little underground bunkers trying not to get seen while shivering in a corner.
I love Phaedra's battle in fact it's my favorite Colossus in the game it's the most peaceful and I had a lot of fun fighting it its a horse Colossus how could you not like that
i don't really like him he is cute and all and peacefull but as a fight or a puzzle it isn't very good and i think phalanx is more peacefull with the music and he flying "slowly" looking up on him while running on agro he litteraly never attacks you Phaedra does its cute but i like phalanx more (in my oppinion)
"It was a bad fight because I'm bad at figuring things out/it's difficult!" All of your complaints sound like they come from you just being bad at puzzling.
Man, Argus is one of my top 3 favorite colossi. I thought the challenge was engaging and incredibly satisfying once you figure it out, and that the way you do beat him in general was absolutely brilliant. The only colossus in the game I had major trouble with, to the point I just had to look up how to beat him, was Dirge. I never thought to look behind me while running from him, which resulted in several wasted hours.
The 2 flying colossusus are by far my favorite. I found the last colossus very anticlimactic because it doesnt walk around and is staying on the same spot the entire battle ..
it literally took me 3 HOURS to beat Argus on my first play of the game, I swear the first hour must've solely been trying to figure out how the fuck to get on him
Kakuzu567 ¿¡¿you figured out all the counter intuitive things of the platforms he has to stomp on make him hit the pillars to make stones fall climb the stones get up the stairs make him break the bridge do all the prosses again without the pillars thing jump on him hit him in the head 'til the sign is gone hit him in the elbow to make him drop the sword get off of him and climb his hand (that it was kind of funny to me how he doesn't crush you with his fingers while you are in his hand) stab him and kill him IN 30 MINUTES?!? or you are really lucky or you looked it up i don't belive it (not in the mean way) it tooked me like 2 days trying and trying until for accident i saw he could stomp on the tiles and then again i didn't know what to do it went like 10 minutes he hit the pillars and the rest was easy until the elbow thing i didn't know what i was supossed to do i looked everywhere on his body ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) NO NOT LIKE THAT until i thougt to look in the elbow and i could end the fight i was frustrated.... and then my horse "died" GOD DANGIT and the final fight with *Malus* was if not my favorite its around there the build up was just too good and the scenery the music that never played before giving a sensation of uniqueness and like a "this is it one step more to complete my mission i'll do this for you Agro" so it was like a reward of going through that cryptic fight that was Argus
So I never this on PS2 and I don't have a ps3 for the remaster, so I am forced to play this on an emulator. But I can't help but think you're not the best at the game. Dirge wasn't that much of an issue. Hyrdus wasn't either. Like I can't claim to be amazing at the game, but most of the negatives you state are more complaints of difficulty or lack of hand holding rather than actual negatives. Except for Phaedra. Fuck Phaedra.
The fight with Dirge is so much better now with the remaster because of the much much better graphics and the more stable reticule. And I felt so bad killing Cenobia and Celosia because of how sad and vulnerable they look. Cenobia's reaction to the fire is just sad cuz he's one of the only colossus that shows mannerisms and actual fear when being attacked. Not just pain, but fear. And seeing Celosia smack into a wall without its armor and get knocked out is just sad. As frustrating as he was, the way it looks and behaves so much much more like an animal makes him feel more alive and his death sadder. Anyway, I don't agree with you on a lot of things BUT I enjoyed seeing your opinion.
I pretty much disliked Celosia because I got stunlocked by that Colossus far too many times. I get rammed into a corner, and get knocked down the second I get up. This went on for quite a while that I was convinced the only way to end it was to reset the game and start from the beginning of the fight. Also nice to know Phalanx is also your top 1 :D
undertale is original, but not as good as portal or sotc. it brings a ton of originality to the table, but its mechanics really aren't amazing compared to the mechanic and storytelling originality of sotc and portal.
Rhyne actually this is HIS favorite game list.....thing....those games to me would be on my 15-20 my 3 favorite are 3: pikmin 2: Luigi's mansion 1:the legend of Zelda wind waker
Ethanzilla I wasn't trying to represent him, I was just giving my analysis. It's funny because portal and sotc are in my top 10 favorites and undertale doesn't even make it into the top 20.
Rhyne For me, Undertale is up there but idk... It isn't really as much of a great game, as it really is... an experience... Like... I think literally everyone should play undertale, but that doesn't make it my favorite game. SOTC is probably tied for favorite game with Portal and Kingdom Hearts, but... I don't think that everyone should play them like how I said everyone should play Undertale... Because Undertale isn't the best game... It's just one of the best experiences...
It's interesting how different views people have. For me Phaedra wasn't hard at all even though I didn't know the solution, it took just a few minutes to defeat. And Agro was challenging, but in just the right way. I've seen some people even complain that Agro is too easy to be the penultimate boss. The worst for me was definitely Basaran, because even after figuring out pretty quickly the way to defeat it, it was frustratingly hard to execute, as it just wouldn't position itself correctly despite lots of trying. For me that is more annoying than properly challenging.
+Syyborg Gaming Holy shit, you're absolutely right. This game is amazing at many things, but teaching you them is not one of them. I bet fighting dirge would have been way more fun if you knew that you could stand up on agro and easily aim backwards! Though I do have to ask: Why did you have to run back from the shrine of worship after every death? For me, it respawned me at the boss's cutscene. Am I missing something? I mostly hated that boss because it goes by no logic whatsoever. Hydrus has no reason at all to stay near the surface. He's obviously able to dive underwater whenever he wants and it proves very effective, and yet he dives up and down in all subsequent attempts to shock you (which he does regardless of whether or not he can harm you).
100% agree with this list! I had the same problems with all of them. Maybe one difference is that I hated Cenobia simply because if you got rammed into one time by it, it was almost impossible to get up and take cover because he comes barreling towards you again before Wander can say "Mono"
Haven't watched the video yet but my ranking of all 16 (because I felt like it) are as follows: 16. Basaran 15. Celosia 14. Phaedra 13. Barba 12. Quadratus 11. Valus 10. Pelagia 9. Cenobia 8. Gaius 7. Kuromori 6. Hydrus 5. Avion 4. Malus 3. Dirge 2. Phalanx 1. Argus
Just Another White Kid I don't dislike Basaran, I actually like every colossus in this game. Basaran just gets last place because of the slight annoyance on climbing him. Apart from that, the battle is as epic as any other.
Buffet’s least favourites: #2 Celosia - there is just no indication at what you’re supposed to do. You never pick up anything before or after, which is hypocritical, since spider was cut because of that reason. I want spider! Plus, he’s smol, which is fine if he was interesting or intimidating. #5 Cenobia - Looks to much like Celosia. Love the platform puzzle, but it just goes on too long. You have to do the same thing SIX times; 7 if you count knocking down the floor to break its armour. #3 Quadratus - It is a tutorial boss, but the thing it is trying to teach you just makes the fight harder. Riding Agro just makes it harder to aim and isn’t even needed at all. Phalanx would have been a better tutorial boss for riding Agro and using your bow since, you HAVE to use Agro to keep up with him. #4 Barba - Great ideas in this fight and is cinematic. Him chasing you, busting down walls; intense. I also, love how you hide and grab his beard when he looks down. However, everything he does other colossi do better. Dirge is another epic chase and is so much cooler and dynamic. Hiding and making him look for you is basically just Avion. Both require bring the colossi to you, but which is cooler. Hiding and grabbing a beard or watching a giant bird fly at you and grabbing its wing taking the battle to the sky. Doesn’t help that that fight is right before this one. Plus, he has the same appearance as Valus (a previous colossi) and Argus. #1 Basaran - I loathe his existence. Getting him EXACTLY above a geyser AS it is going off is just so frustrating. Plus, waiting for him to get to a geyser is so slow as he is constantly shooting at you making you move away from the geyser you were at. Meaning he moves to be where you are, which isn’t at a geyser. Also, my first time ever playing as a kid I kept flipping him over but never could figure out what to do afterwards, so he flipped back over again and again. One could say that that is why I have such disdain for him. I also just don’t really like his design that much. Buffet’s favourite colossi: #5 Kuromori - Small done right. He is larger enough to be intimidating, but small enough to be like “WHERE DIS HE GO!” Honestly, he can absolutely sneaky as you can’t always see where he is, but he definitely sees you with wall hacks. Sniping you from places that make you scream because sometimes even than you can’t find him. I love his design too; It is so unique and creepy. It is so satisfying outplaying him and sniping his legs and watching he plummet to the ground. #4 Avion - You standoff a colossal rock bird as it charges at you. Than you jump on its wing, holding on to dear life as it soars in the sky. All these things have been said before by countless people. Its design is also amazing. #3 Dirge - A giant snake is chasing you and it is horrifying. Such an intense fight and I love it’s design. Plus, shooting it in the eye was unique as it is the only one you have to do so. I genuinely couldn’t figure that when I was young that when I accidentally did I was so estatic. It is just so fun and satisfying doing it and watching him crash into a wall. Controls aren’t that bad and it gets under my skin people disliking this fight because of over-exaggerated bad controls. #Argus - Best soundtrack and one of the most beautiful arenas. I am probably one of the only people to instantly figure out how to win by looking around before the fight. Great design, nice puzzle platforming and I love how he come up from a cliff. #1 Phalanx- Best designed colossus and I will fight you on that. What hasn’t been said why about Phalanx is great. Chasing and shooting him done with Agro, check. Jumping off Agro onto his fin look in the movies, check. Standing atop the largest colossus while it flys in the sky, check. But what I really love about Phalanx is how mysterious he is. He is the only colossus that isn’t land locked to their arena, so why doesn’t leave? The Ico rings theory keeping him there? If so that is kinda sad. Why is he the most harmless colossus? He is really nearsighted and can’t see you on the ground? Why does he have an extra eye on his left side?
So let me get this straight. Phaedra is on your worst list because 1. You need to jump onto its braids ( you’re actually meant to climb up it’s back ) 2. It only has one weak point( it actually has 2 ) 3. It isn’t obvious what to do (despite the fact that the tunnels are clearly there for a reason and it is stated by Dormin that it is a curious creature) Good video. But just because Phaedra was specifically difficult to fight for YOU, doesn’t mean it is the worst Colossus in the game.
Am I the only one who doesn't like the 3rd Colossus? He just looks SO derpy. I can't get past those duck lips. #4 if you just lure him over to a cave and wait a bit, usually after three big BANGS of him stepping around, when he bends down his braids will be right in front of you. That is how I learned to get on top of him. Lure him over, hide in the cave, (you can even use the whistle action used to call Agro to get the Colossi's attention instead of shooting him), jump on the braids and climb up. I never knew you could climb on his stubby tail until I watched someone else play it. I think at this point in the game you should be able to recognize what areas are claimable by their sharper edges/textures and slightly brighter colors. #15 was one of the best for me to figure out how to get on top of him. There were so many steps to getting on him it was very rewarding and his arena was so big. I still can't believe the PS2 could handle such a game. If you are playing this game for the first time, do yourself a favor and do NOT look up how to beat any of the Colossus - I promise you it is much more rewarding when you figure it out yourself. I made the mistake of looking up a few of them and it just made the game go by way too quick.
4:40 the only thing more counterintuitive than that was having to stab his hand for him to keep it still long enough to aim and shoot at his shoulder. All previous colossi taught you that stabbing them makes them thrash like crazy, but we're supposed to assume that this one will react completely different and hold still.
One more thing that makes this game a masterpiece: Phaedra is my personal favorite colossus fight and also my cousins absolutely least favorite. So you know what a jewel this game was way back in 2005...
The flying dragon is a fucking time consuming, you have to do each weak spots in three rounds, that includes popping hes air bags, racing him and climbing again and again, wouldnt be so bad due to the fucking flaps. And time attack? Its a nightmare
Phalanx is my favorite, you can figure out how to beat him fairly easily, and jumping from Agro to phalanx then being on top of phalanx when he’s hundreds of feet into the air is one of the coolest feelings you’ll ever get
I don't see why the solution to a colossus fight not being immediately obvious is a negative, especially considering Shadow is a puzzle game. That was one of the great things about playing it for the first time too: looking up at this hulking beast and thinking how there could be no possible solution to tackling it. Never had a problem with Phaedra's AI either, and like you I too would jump up the braids. There is no wrong way to do that fight but the braids seem like the most obvious and also awe-inspiring solution. I would lure him to the catacombs and then run around until he'd peer over them and simply jump out of the exit where he would over-hang the braids. Not only is it more obvious, but to me, it's also the easier route! But then, people find different colossi hard - for me the fifteenth is a lot of work, I disagree that he is unintuitive but I think he shakes far to much to the point where it is just impossible to get a hit in on him without jumping off and trying again. Also, the water bosses are amazing (especially Pelagia, favourite colossi in the game).
Your reasons for disliking most of the colossi on the worst 5 list mostly boil down to 1. "I forgot that this is also a puzzle game" 2. "I'm not very good at the game"
Just beat the game. I actually liked Hydrus a lot. I agree the swimming sucks, but once you get onto him and he's whipping you around under water it was really awesome.
For someone who says this is their 2nd favorite game you don't seem to know a lot about it. You aren't suppose to climb Phaedra's braids, HARD dosnt mean bad. And you can swim faster by going underneath the water greatly increasing the speed of travel in water...
All I have to say is holy crap you are wrong. IMO: Best: #5) Kuromori #4) Dirge #3) Pelagia #2) Avion #1) Phalanx Worst (no order): #5) Valus #4) Celosia #3) Cenobia #2) Gaius #1) Basaran
Phaedra is actually not as annoying as it is made out here. You can actually wait in the mound you draw his attention to, wait for him to lower his head and jump out the entrance to grab one of the braids. Way less finicky and faster than the strategy given here.
Surprisingly, when fighting with Dirge, you can stand on Agro and your shooting with bow would be considerably easier, Agro even avoids the pillars for you too. (R1+Left Analog forward). I've tried :-)
Actually, firing arrows at Phedrea is the worst thing to do and a common mistake. Yes, shooting an arrow at him at the start is good, since he’ll move quicker to the hills. But after that you should avoid doing as much as possible, since if he is angry he won’t look down (it has never happened with me, but it did in your footage). You need him to have blue, calm eyes if you want him to look down more consistently.
Personally, I'd remove Dirge (which is actually one of my favorites) from the Worst and include Colossus #9, Basaran. Fuck that damn turtle. The battle is kinda luck based, I'm surprised it didn't make your list.
I hated Celosia and Cenobia because if you get attacked by them, Wander will be stunned for a brief moment. Once he gets up, they continue attacking until he dies. But hey, once I got over that, taking them down was fun. And I agree with Phaedra being the worst. I dread that boss fight every time I do a new playthrough. It was a tedious mess.
Surprisingly, you can stand on Agro and your shooting with bow would be considerably easier, Agro even avoids the pillars for you too. (R1+LAnalog forward)
About Phaedra....climbing him is ALOT easier than this, just stay inside at the entrance and he will go down like always...you don't even need to wait for him in the other side
I love colossus Dirge. Never had any issue riding Agro and firing arrows at the same time. I also fairly liked colossus Hydrus. I do agree with the others on the worst colossi list though as with your number one pick for the best colossus of the game.
While I haven't reached Phaedra yet, I've seen this fight, and I completely disagree with the unintuitive argument. You pass by the tunnel system on your way to Phaedra, and it's distinct enough that even a new player can tell they'll be important during the battle. From there, it won't be long before trial and error brings out the solution.
for me i think i had bad luck beacuse as you say i knew the tunnels had something to do with the battle so i got his attention went in the tunnels and when i got out it was attacking and searching for agro so i tried a second time but with agro away from the action i got his atention got in the tunnel agro was away and when a i got out phaedra wasn't even interested it was walking away and i throwed like 10 arrows at him
Also I'd love to add that the game is great because every colossus is a puzzle to solve before you can truly fight and enjoy the boss some enjoy the fight more and some enjoy the puzzle but it's what makes the game as great as it is.
The only one I thought was more frustrating than fun was the small-ish one in the tower arena thing who's legs you shoot with arrows (Kuromori I think?). It was definitely the hardest I think.
Yes that is It's name and me personally It wasn't hard I see glowing bit I shoot glowing bit heck I have ground scaler(wich is killing kuro before it turns back over)without queen's sword this is the ps4 version also did you know in the ps4 version you can whistle to get kuro's attention
I'm surprised #9 isn't at #1. It's the only one I don't like fighting that much. Having to lure it over to the geysers while it shoots at you is annoying. Especially when it refuses to get in the right place.
I am extremely excited for PrioVR, as I'm a gamer that wants my gaming experience to by highly athletic, and the top three games I want to see ported to Prio are all your top favorite games. At #3 is Portal 2, because it's my favorite game, and who doesn't want to feel like they're walking around Aperture. At #2 is Undertale, because to spite asking for a VR port being a tall order due to the abstract nature of the boss battles, I have to get up and dance every time I hear any of the boss music. But #1 is easily this. I'm not even a big SotC fan; I don't even own the game. But the REASON I don't own the game is because I took one look at the gameplay and said "I want to have to perform these moves myself, or I don't want to have to perform these moves at all"
Ok, allow me to comment about some of your "worst choices". Dirge - I never had a problem with this boss fight. I just make sure I get in a good position, making sure Agro rides straight and then turn when I feel like the right time and then I aim carefully to the colossus' eye. Maybe it was the PS3 version that made this more manageable, but that's just me. Cenobia - I'm sorry, but calling Celosia better than Cenobia kinda ticks me off. Here's a big difference. There is a slight difference. And Cenobia is slightly smaller than Celosia, that Celosia being more of a bull and Cenobia being like a lion or a tiger. Second, the fight with Celosia is much harder than Cenobia, because when you try to stab on Celosia, it won't stop shaking. At least the way with how you fight Cenobia is more unique than any of the other fights, because unlike most Colossi, you actually have to use the environment in your favor, by using pillars to make it crash into them and lead it to a spot where you can take it down and the best part is, it doesn't shake as much as Celosia does. Also, I don't see why a Colossus being smaller than its previous ones would actually make it considered a worst one. Size doesn't matter if the fight is interesting. Hydrus - I actually never had trouble with this fight. You don't really have to swim that much to get Hydrus' attention and when you grab it you'd only have to go about twice to get to the sigil on its head. At least the time-trial mode is forgiving for how long the fight takes with it. Argus - Alright, I agree. The fight with Argus can take a while to figure out, but I don't consider this fight being worse. In fact, I had more trouble with Barba than I did with Argus. Sure it took me a while to figure out, but I actually am ok with this one. Phaedra - Ok, you clearly didn't understand how exactly the fight works. First you need to get its attention towards you and then the moment it comes close, you just go to the tunnel and go all the way through instead of exiting to the side exits. Then after it bends down to try to search for you, you just have to climb on its tail, not its head. Sure for speedrunners its useful, but I don't understand how you didn't figure that out so soon. Overall, I don't blame you for not liking these colossi, but you could've explained a little better.
(Just want you to know that this is gonna be a long comment) Firstly, I just want to say that this was a great video! Would’ve been cool to see you rank all the colossi within the game including Quadratus, Barba, Kuromori, Basaran, Celosia, and Pelagia but hey I’m not complaining. This is coming from somebody who has done that and if you don’t mind I’d love to take the time to discuss my personal opinions on how you ranked the colossi here in this video. Dirge: To be honest, I actually really disagree with this one. Dirge is my 2nd favorite colossus in the game and I understand that it doesn’t have the best controls but come on…the fight is just too good. The speed at which it chases you, combined with it’s aggressive behavior, on top of hearing it cry out in pain as you carelessly stab the sigils on its back, makes this one of the most epic moments in the entire game. But…at least you did say you liked the concept of it so I’ll give you that. Valus: I agree. Maybe a step back at number #6 for me but I still agree with what you’re saying. It’s definitely not the best colossus (or the most memorable) but for what it’s worth it definitely made for a great introduction to the game. Cenobia: Again, I agree. I actually think it’s a top 3 worst but I still agree with what you said here. It is pretty disappointing seeing something so small this close to the epilogue of the game. Not to mention, how repetitive the fight is too. Pretty annoying! I actually liked Celosia’s fight more too again like you said. Malus: I disagree with this one, not as much as I disagreed with how you ranked Dirge but I still disagree. While Malus isn’t exactly a top 5 worst colossi in the game, it is no way a top 5 best in my eyes. Sure, the buildup is great but the fight itself is (in my opinion) pretty shitty. It’s repetitive, boring, anti-climactic, and quite easy (given that Malus only has one major sigil) to be honest. And while I do like the music, did they seriously have to let it be the only track that plays throughout the whole fight? And why? I get that this is a personal pet peeve of mine, I do but personally this fight was just very disappointing for the epilogue of the game in my opinion. Hydrus: Totally agree! While I don’t hate this colossus as much, it is definitely the worst water-based fight in the game by far. And it’s already bad enough that the swimming is pretty rough around the edges to be honest, but what really hurts this fight more than anything is how long it goes on for. Hydrus just feels like doing whatever the hell it wants to, and I find myself having to repeat the same cycle of having to wait for it to rise out of the water to grab onto its fur, disable its 3 horns via minor sigils, and attack its one and only major sigil at least 2-3 times which I know doesn’t sound like a long time…trust me though, it will feel like it. But hey, at least it’s minor sigils actually do something unlike some other colossus that I know of *cough *cough Phaedra *cough *cough. Gaius: Again, totally agree! Gaius is not only a top 3 colossus but also is one of the most unique colossi we have in the game by far. The scale, magnitude, and pure height of this monster are truly what defines it best and there’s only 2 other colossi that I can think of that can truly outweigh it in every way. Truly deserving of the #3 spot if you ask me! Argus: Forgive me if I sound like an asshole on this one…but not only do I disagree with this ranking, I also feel the complete opposite way about every point you made against this colossus. Firstly, let me just say that Argus (and this will be a very underrated opinion) Argus is actually my favorite colossus in the whole game! The design of this creature (while yes, is the same as Valus and Barba’s) is actually my favorite design out of all the colossi in the entire game. The arena is not only beautiful, but very unique and the fact that you can see the shrine from there only makes the fight even better. The music is one of my favorite OST’s in the game and I love how it has a “hidden” weakpoint visible after stabbing its minor sigil. Sure, it does take a long time due to the difficulty but that’s what I love about the fight. That’s the reason that Phalanx is not my favorite colossus in the game or why Avion is not there either, hell even Dirge would be at number #1 if it wasn’t due to the difficulty! Sure, Argus might have given me the most trouble but the fact that it did so is what I love about it the most. And I damn sure wish that many other people out there felt the same way that I do. And it’s a shame to me how many people often view Argus as the complete opposite. What a shame, man… Avion: Again, I do disagree with this one but not nearly as much as the last one. I would actually say that Avion is the colossus that I have the most mixed feelings towards. I really can’t describe it too well to be honest but let it be known that it’s definitely not the worst colossus in the game oh no, far from it! That being said, in my opinion it sure as hell ain’t the best nor even the 2nd best whatsoever. Phaedra: I totally, 100% agree with this one I really do! No matter what I say or do or how ever many times I play through Shadow of the Colossus, there is no other colossus in the game that defines the true meaning of ‘shit’ than Phaedra does to be 100% honest with you. You know a colossus is bad when even the music placement of all things is just so goddamn unfitting. It also doesn’t help that Phaedra also doesn’t like to cooperate often for whatever stupid dumbass reason possibly imaginable. Phaedra minor sigil is also the only one in the game that I know of which the player doesn’t even have to go after in order to defeat it. So then I have to ask, why the hell is it even there to begin with? Why just why? It’s so dumb and it also doesn’t help that Agro is required for this fight as well. But you know what? All of that could’ve been forgiven, if Phaedra’s fight on top of all of that wasn’t so god damn boring! Phalanx: And finally, I do agree with this one. I’d actually put Phalanx a few ranks below number #1 if I had to but nevertheless, it’s still a great fight. Maybe if the colossus did anything to harm the player then I would’ve said “hell yeah, it deserves to be number #1 on the list!” But even without that, it’s still a very enjoyable part of the game no doubt. If you read all of this, thank you! I hope that my opinions didn’t hurt or offend you or anyone else in any way and that you understand that it only comes out of a place of the love in my heart (the same way your opinions did) for Shadow of the Colossus.
Yeah, Argus lover! I honestly don’t understand why people trouble with him; does no one actually look around? I honestly feel like I’m the one person to know instantly how to beat him by observing the arena and Argus himself. And wow, you really despise Phedrea entire existence.
Well technically you don’t need to kill #3 that way. The technique you basically HAVE to use in hard mode is jump right as it brings its sword up. You basically moon jump to the top of it.
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The sad thing about killing Phanlanx is that he doesn't attack you.
i honestly think phalanx actually is hostile but it really doesnt have much of a way to fight you
Yeah, I think we really just kill Phalanx because we have to. At least that's what Dormin tells us
Rayzan since when does phalanx shoot you/HIT YOU WITH A FIST OR FUCKING SWORD!?
MattDah Trico Gamez Bruh you're so triggered and butthurt
The biggest "attack" Phalanx does is trying to throw you off them by barrel rolling
I both agree and disagree. Trying to figure out the pattern and screwing up multiple times is what makes the journey so grand. It's a game with only boss battles. If you could figure out and defeat each in five minutes, the game would be quick and unremarkable. Definitely in my top five of all time.
streetmagik only exception I can think of is when the colossi just wont use the actions required to climb it
Gaius’ swing (wonder why he doesn’t do that instead of slowly walk towards me just to stomp or thrust straight down LOZ master sword style)
Ol’ thunderhorns of the lake (not Hydrus the eel, PS4 remake)
Phaedra/horse bro (please just peek your head down... please!)
Hydrus loves heavy metal music (PS4 remake, ok this isn’t a complaint with Hydrus it’s just... I freaking love this colossus for one reason... when I get close to his head after disabling all electric spikes, sometimes he’ll bug out and instantly duck below the water at the speed of a ramming Celosia and rise above the water yet again just to keep repressing this animation unless I CLIMB my way to the vital spot, hence the heavy metal joke... like I said this is why I love Hydrus, only that)
You were lucky to discover Argus' weak point in ten minutes. It took me AN HOUR. A FUCKING WHOLE HOUR.
it took me like three days to figure out the cryptic tile stomp thing how was i supposed to know the tiles didn't look special since they where in all the place and Argus's feet didn't look special either they looked just like Valus's or Barba's so when i figured that out BY ACCIDENT i had the problem of figuring out the elbow thing to make him drop the sword and then it was easy
I Always grabbed Phaedra's tail to get up on him
So did I
+Reeti Huhtala Me too haha, never even thought of the braids
You are supposed to climb the tail
+Trent Troller I think it was either way, otherwise, why would they program the ability to climb up the braids, if that's the only way to reach them?
same
"It wasn't obvious" x2
"It was too hard"
I genuinly think you are very bad at this game.
It reminds me of that one ProZD video
“Was poop dragon supposed to be hard”
“GIT GOOD”
“I beat it in one try”
“ If You Think Poop Dragons Hard You Should Never play Diarrhea Souls”
“GIT GOOD”
The 4th one wasn't even *that* hard, like. The ons underwater was tricky but non is really hard. It's a pretty easy game, for a lot lol. But the control sucks ass. I'm getting so frustrated at it all the time. And the horse.
I would love this game a lot more if the controls were less clunky
!? I got happy when Agro fell
@@user-jz2fi4yi8f I feel the same way, the only hard boss for me was Malus and that was the final boss
Wait, you were climbing on Phaedra's BRAID's? Why did you deliberately take the hard route? Moreover, why take the challenge route you set for yourself and then complain about it?
he didn't know about the tail climbing.
Lol I climbed Phaedra's braids when I first played the game when I was like 6 or 7. Idk how the heck I even managed to figure out how to get on top of the thing. I just recently found out that you were supposed to climb Phaedra's "tail" because Dormin said something about "Deceive the Colossus and climb on from behind" or something like that.
Leo Jakšić first time I played this game I was like 10 or 12 and beated pheadra by climbing on the braids. Didn't figure out the other way
Yeah, the other way is basically the same thing, but instead of going to the braids, you just go to the rear, which lowers while Phaedra is looking down
i'm playing through the remastered 2018 version, never played before...and I lucked into this route but it was surprisingly easy. I got curious about whether Phaedra would climb on top of those hills....then I was like...."oh...there's tunnels in here...what happens if I go in here?" and then as I was about to come back out I saw the braids dangling there and I thought "huh, should I jump on those?"....climbed up....easiest colossi kill so far...
"Oh that colossi is hard,its the worst one"wtf
stingy I don't get why he hates Argus. he is my number one cause you have to think and he is more agressive than other colossi. and his music is awesome. very fitting for the premutual boss
Yeah, he's also the scariest boss
Argus was always my favorite. It took a long time to figure him out, but that was part of the fun.
Brother,is that you?!
no basoron is
You're not supposed to climb Phaedra's braids . . .
+RagingRealm But it's coded so that you can climb it, so it's not like I did it the "wrong" way.
Syyborg Gaming Nothing's the wrong way due to this game being physics based. Going up his braids is a speed run tactic, like having Gaius fling you onto his head when he brings up his sword.
The easiest way to climb on Phaedra is to climb on his "tail"
Theres 3 ways to go up to it
1: Its braids from the outside or inside the caves
2: Its tail when its distracted from behind obviously
3: The hardest but fastest
From its legs from jumping off Agro its hard but i first saw it on the Phaedra's World Record of Time Attack
+Syy Turns out I did it in a way more "wrong" than you, I waited at the entrance of the cave I went in till he put his head down then climbed the braids. Toatally agree with him being the worst only fight I actually hate.
You gave some pretty bad reasoning when it came to why they were good or bad. I'm not going to go into every single colossi on your list, but one that got me was the electric eel. The game explains to you right after you beat he first colossi that Shrines are save points. They're literally some of the only things that are in the waste land besides trees and lizards. If you didn't know that you could save there, then that was completely your fault since the same clearly told you. Also, regarding the electricity. You don't even have to use the light from your sword to see that there are weak spots right in front of each and every horn. They're literally big, green / purple-ish spots that stick out like a sore thumb. The timing is incredibly simple (She comes up from the water every so often, giving you way more than enough time to stab the weak point) and the fight in genuinely one of the easiest (If not, the easiest) in the entire game.
TL;DR: Git Gud/ Learn 2 Read
Dannyillo962
Correction: The game doesn't EXACTLY say they are save points. Dormin very SIMPLY and GENERICALLY says "praying at these shrines will heal all wounds". Reading that, almost every player would assume they simply heal you. I knew the were save points because I watched jacksepticeye's playthrough before I had the game, & for a time, HE didn't know they were save points (& SotC is his favorite game, which says something).
Also, he was talking about Hydrus' range of the shockwaves, not her weak spots. It's hard to tell if you're safe or not when she submerges, so falling off & needing to swim over to her when she surfaces again can become tedious.
But I don't entirely disagree. A few of his points made little sense. Phaedra certainly wasn't hard for me. Her attention span was actually pretty narrow for me, the fight not taking long at all, even if I fell. Dirge's fight was certainly a challenge for me, but that's only because I barely used the bow, so my aim sucked. It wasn't poor mechanics.
that is true but it took me til the 5th colossi to figure out how to actually save. that is only because i saw someone do it in a video on how to beat one of them.
Hydrus IS the easiest colossi in the game
Hell, it's the only one that you can render completely harmless
In my personal opinion, all of the Colossi are awesome!
you haven't played the game yet, have you.
I've seen walkthroughs several times.
HolyCross9 if you play the game, trust me you WILL get least favorites. Some colossi are so rage inducing! Before I played the game, Gaius was my favorite, but good GOD do I hate it now, it never is in the right spot to smack the thing and I end up having to go back around and lure it further away and try again. Celosia has gone from one of my least favorites to one of my favorites, simply because of how fun it is to fight, as long as you don't touch the ground.
Daniel Neary If i had a dollar for every time i ended up fucking myself over cause i ended up on the ground and then get spammed by constant ramming until i died
Koolmoose yep.
Hydrus wasn't bad at least in my opinion.
agreed, i just fought him today and he's awesome
Yea I love Hydrus
hydrus looks amazing in the new ps4 version, his red electric design is awesome
Hydrus is my favorite colossi
Hydrus is in my top 3
*Are the colossi innocent?*
Many players feel guilt for killing each colossus but are the colossi themselves innocent? After all, they all embody the imprisoned spirit of *Dormin*, who tricked *Wander* into releasing and reviving him. Dormin is unquestionably the antagonist of the game but Wander is also antagonist-protagonist. Certainly there are some colossi that are more aggressive both visually and in terms of attack than others; *Dirge* and *Celosia* are prime examples, making them appear less innocent but you already kill many colossus before you reach them so they may know your intention or they are territorial. However, others such as *Phalanx* and *Avion* are far from aggressive, and act purely out of defence and self-preservation.
The real issue lies in whether the colossi are entirely possessed and animated by Dormin or whether they are actually separate entities that Dormin happens to have been imprisoned within. The fact that the idols that line the corridor in the *Shrine of Worship* are of the colossi and not of Dormin suggest that, at some time, the colossi existed and were, literally, idolized by the natives that built the shrine and ruins within the *Forbidden Lands*. This may mean that they once existed free of Dormin's presence within them, suggesting that perhaps, at some point in history, they had been genuine living creatures with no association to Dormin.
My theory is that, it could mean that the statues were created long before Dormin and the native of the land use them to worshiper their spirit guardians or gods before they use them to housing the parts of Domin's power. If this were the case, then it may be possible that through Dormins sealed power, the *16 colossi* came into being as living incarnations of the individual idols after having Dormin's power sealed within them.
Too long M8.
I think the colossi were there before Dormin as well, and they were the guardians of a once great civilization. Judging from the worn down/spaced out ruins, the area has been abandoned at least several millennia. And the legend surrounded the Forbidden Lands and Dormin. I think Dormin was a corrupt person of royalty/government, who did terrible black magic to ascend to godhood. Perhaps wiping out an entire nation of people, and storing himself in the colossi (almost like horcruxes)
+GlitteryGecko *The legends surrounding Dormin's abilities and the Forbidden Land suggest the long period of time the Forbidden Lands have been in that state, as well. Only people like priests or mages that have studied for their entire lives would know more than whispers and rumors about the Forbidden Lands.
Like, animating stone, nature, and architecture already bespeaks a great and deep power, the source which may be unknown, but one that can very easily be abused if put into corrupt hands. that's just my opinion, though.
i already knew this but you could of put spoiler alert at the start
wait, so hard bosses are bad bosses for you?
Sleudgehammer
Wait he slams his fist down? I beat him by climbing back up and dropping down to his armed and the rings around it and dropping down to his palm. Just goes to show how you can tackle situations differently in this game.
RealGamerManz same
Lucas Balieiro phalix is hard
oooooooooooooh snap
Frozen Cactus ha ha, no.
Why the hell would you play the game without Save Shrines?
Leo Jakšić cause u dont need, challange was my thing to do the game again and again ^^
Already done this but died twice all game
When I first played this game on the PS3 I played without using shrines because I didn’t know how to
You don't really even die in this game lol. The only way to get killed is by the last colossus if you're not sure what you're doing.
Leo Jakšić lol I didn’t until I figured out on the final boss
I agree with most of your list, but disagree with most of the points made. Shadow of the Colossus is a puzzle game, and certain Colossi not having their weaknesses immediately obvious was a huge part of the fun for me. I'm also not sure what's goin on with your struggles with Phaedra; all you have to do is get its attention, run into one of the tunnels, and by the time you run out the other side, he'll have investigated the opening and be in prime position to jump on. Wasn't hard for my first playthrough, and has only been easier since then :P
Also, don't you spawn right outside the fights if you die during any of them? I'm pretty sure the point about having to backtrack through the world to get back isn't a thing (but it's also been a long time since I've died in the fights, so I'm not 100% sure)
"all you have to do is get his attention run into the tunnels and by the time you run out the other side, he'll have investigated the opening" unless he isn't in the perfect possition when i played it i knew i had to do something with the tunnels but when he was following me i got into the tunnels got out of the opposite side and he was chasing agro i tried again and he wasn't following agro but he was minding his own bussiness (i think you write it like that) so i assumed it wasn't like that and i had to jump from agro to his tail or braids in the perfect time so he would be close and i was on top of the tunnels running with agro i couldn't do it so i started again with the tunnel out of despair didn't work so i just gave up then i searched it up and surprise you had to do the tunnel thing but he had to be in a certain possition i don't like the fight maybe i had bad luck or something or you had preety good luck but i just don't like it
I hated how he put Argus on the second worse because he's my favorite Colossus. And as you said, the fun in the game is figuring out how to beat the Colossus. Not just blandly climbing him and stabbing him. More so figuring out how to get onto him in the first place so that you can kill him.
I agree the point of the game play is to figure out how to climb the Colossi. I wish the sword never showed the paths and weaknesses. It would been also fun to explore and find the Colossi.
ArchTalko you spawn in the nearest shrine. It's useful but a lot of people (including him, probably) ignore the things which is why they get frustrated when they die, because they just ignore Dormin's advice.
Nicolas Roman Segura even if he's not in the perfect position it will get into it eventually, it just takes some time. He first turns back and forth to se if you're not anywhere else, then it stomps on the thing to try to get you out of there, and when that doesn't work, he peeks in to try to see you. You just gotta observe his patterns and BE PATIENT.
My first thought was that Dirge was gonna be the #1 best... I was so young...
+Comiccow6 xD
+Syy I'm surprised that Basaran wasn't on the worst list. I have met no other youtubers who didn't hate Basaran
I honestly love the fight with Basaran. I think Pelagia is the one I hate the most though because he's just so boring.
Dirge is one of the best for sure
dude just grab phaedras tail. so much easier.
cjcrashoveride unless you’re doing hard time attack, then good luck
Basketbomber Slackingson Nah, Even Hard Time Attack Mode It's Still Easy
Falling off Malus, couple of hours to get back up? Dude, it takes just a few minutes, chill with the exaggeration. You also don't need to use the sword to locate the weakspot, and then shoot Malus weakspot. After I stabbed his back I grabbed his arm, climbed up and stabbed the spot without knowing it beforehand, then grabbed his second hand and jumped to the top and to his head. You make it way harder than it needs to be.
PS: Obvious weaknesses isn't necessary a good thing.
Kim Steinbach-Reif it took me 34 minutes for the entire fight first time I played it. I was so frustrated, but it felt good to beat hik
#5 Worst- I really like Dirge like a lot of people, I never had any of the issues you said however I understand your reasons.
#5 Best- I agree.
#4 Worst- I respect your opinion though I really don't get why you hate him. I understand the part about Celosia and Cenobia being similar but I think it's unfair just to hate a colossus for it's size and position in the game.
#4 Best- Again I agree and I also had the problems with climbing and weakpoints you did.
#3 Worst-By no means my favourite but again I don't get why you hate him. I never struggled with the timing and I don't get what you said about having to go all the way back to it 3 times. I recently played it on PS2 and every time I died to a colossus I just respawned at the start of the battle without using save shrines. Unless you were playing the PS3 version and it's different or Hydrus is the only colossus that does this I don't see your problem.
#3 Best-I love Gaius however I don't think he would make it into my top 5.
#2 Worst-I absolutely hate this colossi. It's one of the only 2 I hate next to Celosia. As well as what you mentioned I first thought the second sigil was on it's back and fell off like a dozen times trying to get to it. And a dozen times I had to climb the area again and again and again. It was the colossus that took me the longest to beat by FAR.
#2 Best-I agree again. Avion is easily one of my favourites if not my favourite overall.
#1 Worst-Not my worst but the worst out of the ones I like as in #14. This fight was actually incredibly short for me(maybe I just got lucky or maybe it's because I grabbed onto it's tail which seems easier) and for me it was probably the least memorable fight in the entire game even bordering boredom.
#1 Best-I liked Phalanx and he would definitely be in my top 5 though I don't think he's the best overall like a lot of people.
Erikel Elf when it comes to difficulty, Dirge is pretty lacking for me (•_•)
also you can swim under the water to swim faster (helps with hydra & that one that shoots lighting bolts cause he cant hit you under water)
Pladrea I think it's name I love both fights but for some reason Wander wouldn't grab Pladrea's stomach to stab it
9:26 Actually, there IS one other way up to his head: Go up from his ledge-like backside of a tail. It's arguably his most obvious entryway, only inaccessible because Phaedra's pretty much what'd happen if a Colossus, a giraffe and a horse had a three-way.
"If you haven't played the PS3 remaster, what are you doing with your life?"
I haven't played PS3.
Nah I'm off playing the PS4 remastered version bro. How 'bout you?
I'm extremely surprised that Basaran wasn't in the 5 worst. He was SO freaking annoying. I actually haven't continued my Hard Mode playthrough in a few months just because I have to fight him next.
I love basaran. I think he looks awesome and his mechanic is fun and interesting.
Alpha Bulblax. i think bassaran looks cool but i agree about him being a fricken nuisence
its obvius that you have to use the geysers to defeat him
Alpha Bulblax I agree but for me, Basaran is actually tolerable compared to some others. In my opinion, I think Pelagia is the most annoying cause of how you have to try to constantly swim around to climb on its back and half the time you fail cause that blind bitch has fucking ESP or some shit. I'm positive that one time my game glitched where it always knew where I was or that I couldn't sneak around it no matter how many times I tried or where I was. The game knew I didn't like Pelagia so it decided to dick me over.
nicolasXDInicolas I knew how to beat him. It was doing it that was the problem.
Dirge is one my favourite collosi....
COLOSSI IS THE PLURAL FORM OF COLOSSUS
nicolasXDInicolas Plural*
what?
nicolasXDInicolas Just thought it'd be a little funny to correct you on your spelling right after you corrected him on his grammar.
ah ok kkk
HOLY SHIT the 4th colossus you can climb onto its braids i always climbed its tail or do the horse jump
The only boss I genuinely hated was the bull one. It kept knocking me in a corner and I never could get up in time to dodge.
Gonna have to politely disagree with your Cenobia/Celosia opinion. While I adore each in their own way, I really enjoyed the puzzle aspect of finding my way around the ancient city vs. trying to dodge constant head butts lol
MariahCherie me to
i liked it too the thing of figuring it out but when i replayed it in another run it was just tedious
well said, i agree!
"It is Absolutely gorgeous!!" Wait till you play the ps4 remaster
Hydrus was also INSANELY difficult to even FIND for me on my first playthrough. However, all the serpent collossi are really cool looking, if a bit tricky to deal with at times
0:01 I'm just the O'hare delivery guy
And it seems like Colossi might be worth a try
ummm... dude? you have to grab onto phadras tail, not its braid things. I mean, its the first thing you see when running towards phadra. But i agree with where you put him, i really hate that guy XDD
unless he isn't backwards he can look not being on top of the tumbs and he looks for you on front
Keithixix 197 the braids are for soeedrunning or hard time attack, his tail is for just trying to play in general
Dirge isn't hard at all, people are just unskilled
the salamander is my faveorite colossus and i like the attack on titan tribute game picture
Did you know you can climb up phaedras tail?
ThomasYOYO this is a bad idea in hard time attack
Basketbomber Slackingson It Ain't
Honestly, the only colossus I truly disliked was number 11, Celosia. It was so frustrating to me that even as the armour was gone, you still could barely stab it because it shook so much. At least Cenobia could be stunned by making it run into a wall.
Thank you
*Too much water
+chickencooger34 Shhhhhhhh
Syyborg Gaming xD can't wait for next colossus video ;3
There's only 3 colossi battles where there's water .-.
My favorite was the #1 Worst... And my least favorite is #1 best....
+Random Cup Gaming Man, isn't having opinions great? :P
+Syyborg Gaming Yeah, :P
The braids on Phaedra aren't the main way to get on to him, they are a difficult shortcut for people who do time trials. You are supposed to climb his tail
my fav. was the 1st worst.
yo number 5 was just rage XD XD
Can't trust anyone who puts portal 2 over SoC
Soc is a pretty bad game though when compared to any other decent game ever made. It has only 16 boss fights as the gameplay of the whole game and about half of them are not fun in the slightest, the controls and camera suck most of the time making the lackluster gameplay worse, and there is almost a complete lack of story beside the opening and ending scenes and even then it’s not that remarkable. Portal 2 is far superior to this game.
I actually kinda like Phaedra. It was the first Colossus that gave me the dread feeling. Here, I'm seeing a giant blade-legged, armored giraffe walking at me like it's doing a goddamn Sanic impression and I run and hide in the little underground bunkers trying not to get seen while shivering in a corner.
I got so sad when it was his worst because it is my second favourite colossus
"Oh, this One is hard! It's a bad Colossus!"
So, the second worst argus was placed that low because you had no information or advice to beat him...
Wow.
Preston Hammons argus is actually my favorite colossus
for me it looked like a Valus clone or Valus 2.0 with no clue of what you where supposed to do at least in my case
I love Phaedra's battle in fact it's my favorite Colossus in the game it's the most peaceful and I had a lot of fun fighting it its a horse Colossus how could you not like that
actually he looks more like a llama
nicolasXDInicolas phadra is a zebra, you can tell by the sounds it makes
I thought I was the only one to like him qwq
i don't really like him he is cute and all and peacefull but as a fight or a puzzle it isn't very good and i think phalanx is more peacefull with the music and he flying "slowly" looking up on him while running on agro he litteraly never attacks you Phaedra does its cute but i like phalanx more (in my oppinion)
Little Puppet yeah his concept when first conceived was named Kirin because I think it means horse don’t quote me on that
"It was a bad fight because I'm bad at figuring things out/it's difficult!" All of your complaints sound like they come from you just being bad at puzzling.
Man, Argus is one of my top 3 favorite colossi. I thought the challenge was engaging and incredibly satisfying once you figure it out, and that the way you do beat him in general was absolutely brilliant.
The only colossus in the game I had major trouble with, to the point I just had to look up how to beat him, was Dirge. I never thought to look behind me while running from him, which resulted in several wasted hours.
The 2 flying colossusus are by far my favorite. I found the last colossus very anticlimactic because it doesnt walk around and is staying on the same spot the entire battle ..
8:19 "TO MUCH WATER" (cringe intensifies)
Manublyat awd Exactly
it literally took me 3 HOURS to beat Argus on my first play of the game, I swear the first hour must've solely been trying to figure out how the fuck to get on him
it took me four, it's the worst
damn right it is
+Hannah Tyler it can't be that bad
Took me less then 30 min xD Only had to get off him once to do his hand xD
Kakuzu567 ¿¡¿you figured out all the counter intuitive things of the platforms he has to stomp on make him hit the pillars to make stones fall climb the stones get up the stairs make him break the bridge do all the prosses again without the pillars thing jump on him hit him in the head 'til the sign is gone hit him in the elbow to make him drop the sword get off of him and climb his hand (that it was kind of funny to me how he doesn't crush you with his fingers while you are in his hand) stab him and kill him IN 30 MINUTES?!? or you are really lucky or you looked it up i don't belive it (not in the mean way) it tooked me like 2 days trying and trying until for accident i saw he could stomp on the tiles and then again i didn't know what to do it went like 10 minutes he hit the pillars and the rest was easy until the elbow thing i didn't know what i was supossed to do i looked everywhere on his body ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) NO NOT LIKE THAT until i thougt to look in the elbow and i could end the fight i was frustrated.... and then my horse "died" GOD DANGIT and the final fight with *Malus* was if not my favorite its around there the build up was just too good and the scenery the music that never played before giving a sensation of uniqueness and like a "this is it one step more to complete my mission i'll do this for you Agro" so it was like a reward of going through that cryptic fight that was Argus
I actually loved the argus fight, yeah it was difficult but it was kinda cool
5:12 Oh, it’s an eel. *Super Mario Odyssey Eel flashbacks*
My Opinion
Worst:
5: Quadratus
4: Celosia
3: Pelagia
2: Phalanx
1: Gaius
Best:
5: Valus
4: Cenobia
3: Malus
2: Dirge
1: Avion
Worst ranking i ever saw
@@RobertEdwinHouse9 ight
So I never this on PS2 and I don't have a ps3 for the remaster, so I am forced to play this on an emulator. But I can't help but think you're not the best at the game. Dirge wasn't that much of an issue. Hyrdus wasn't either. Like I can't claim to be amazing at the game, but most of the negatives you state are more complaints of difficulty or lack of hand holding rather than actual negatives. Except for Phaedra. Fuck Phaedra.
The fight with Dirge is so much better now with the remaster because of the much much better graphics and the more stable reticule. And I felt so bad killing Cenobia and Celosia because of how sad and vulnerable they look. Cenobia's reaction to the fire is just sad cuz he's one of the only colossus that shows mannerisms and actual fear when being attacked. Not just pain, but fear. And seeing Celosia smack into a wall without its armor and get knocked out is just sad. As frustrating as he was, the way it looks and behaves so much much more like an animal makes him feel more alive and his death sadder.
Anyway, I don't agree with you on a lot of things BUT I enjoyed seeing your opinion.
I pretty much disliked Celosia because I got stunlocked by that Colossus far too many times. I get rammed into a corner, and get knocked down the second I get up. This went on for quite a while that I was convinced the only way to end it was to reset the game and start from the beginning of the fight.
Also nice to know Phalanx is also your top 1 :D
I fucking love argus and hate gaius
gamingfail same here! And I actually happen to love Cenobia'a fight!
cough cough
1: undertale
2: portal
3: shadow of the colossus
cough cough
undertale is original, but not as good as portal or sotc. it brings a ton of originality to the table, but its mechanics really aren't amazing compared to the mechanic and storytelling originality of sotc and portal.
Rhyne actually this is HIS favorite game list.....thing....those games to me would be on my 15-20 my 3 favorite are
3: pikmin
2: Luigi's mansion
1:the legend of Zelda wind waker
Ethanzilla
I wasn't trying to represent him, I was just giving my analysis.
It's funny because portal and sotc are in my top 10 favorites and undertale doesn't even make it into the top 20.
Rhyne For me, Undertale is up there but idk... It isn't really as much of a great game, as it really is... an experience... Like... I think literally everyone should play undertale, but that doesn't make it my favorite game. SOTC is probably tied for favorite game with Portal and Kingdom Hearts, but... I don't think that everyone should play them like how I said everyone should play Undertale... Because Undertale isn't the best game... It's just one of the best experiences...
mine is
1: Metal gear solid 3 Snake eater
2: Final fantasy 7
3: Shadow of the colossus, ICO
It's interesting how different views people have. For me Phaedra wasn't hard at all even though I didn't know the solution, it took just a few minutes to defeat. And Agro was challenging, but in just the right way. I've seen some people even complain that Agro is too easy to be the penultimate boss. The worst for me was definitely Basaran, because even after figuring out pretty quickly the way to defeat it, it was frustratingly hard to execute, as it just wouldn't position itself correctly despite lots of trying. For me that is more annoying than properly challenging.
When Phaedra and Hydrus are your 2nd and 3rd favourites. :'(
VictorGaming ikr Phaedra is my favorite and Hydrus is in my top 5
where is the fucking turtle!?
diana kittley ikr? I spent 3 hours trying to get on his back
WAIT...YOU CAN SAVE?!?
+Catalin Dimitrescu I know right?
There's also a rocket launcher
+Syyborg Gaming but... It tells you before the 2nd colossus...
It does not. It only tells you that they can be used to heal. It never says it allows you to save.
+Syyborg Gaming Holy shit, you're absolutely right. This game is amazing at many things, but teaching you them is not one of them. I bet fighting dirge would have been way more fun if you knew that you could stand up on agro and easily aim backwards!
Though I do have to ask: Why did you have to run back from the shrine of worship after every death? For me, it respawned me at the boss's cutscene. Am I missing something?
I mostly hated that boss because it goes by no logic whatsoever. Hydrus has no reason at all to stay near the surface. He's obviously able to dive underwater whenever he wants and it proves very effective, and yet he dives up and down in all subsequent attempts to shock you (which he does regardless of whether or not he can harm you).
100% agree with this list! I had the same problems with all of them. Maybe one difference is that I hated Cenobia simply because if you got rammed into one time by it, it was almost impossible to get up and take cover because he comes barreling towards you again before Wander can say "Mono"
Great video! I think your 'number 1 best' pick was perfectly explained, and kudos for that wonderful montage at the beginning of that part
Haven't watched the video yet but my ranking of all 16 (because I felt like it) are as follows: 16. Basaran
15. Celosia
14. Phaedra
13. Barba
12. Quadratus
11. Valus
10. Pelagia
9. Cenobia
8. Gaius
7. Kuromori
6. Hydrus 5. Avion
4. Malus
3. Dirge
2. Phalanx
1. Argus
I feel like I'm the only one who likes Basaran, but otherwise I very much agree with your list.
Just Another White Kid I don't dislike Basaran, I actually like every colossus in this game. Basaran just gets last place because of the slight annoyance on climbing him. Apart from that, the battle is as epic as any other.
I also like Basaran.
Holy shit dude...
Your top 5 are the same as mine and in that same order..
i call barba beardy or santa
fun fact: Avion means plane in romanian
Ironic right
French as well
Spanish as well
Avion is also a play on words of Avian which means bird and is fanmade so its less Ironic as its more deliberate.
For me:
Worst
5)cenobia
4)Phaedra
3)celosia
2)Gaius (unpopular opinion)
1)Basaran
Best
5)Hydrus
4)quadratus
3)avion
2)phalanx
1)Pelagia
You?
Buffet’s least favourites:
#2 Celosia - there is just no indication at what you’re supposed to do. You never pick up anything before or after, which is hypocritical, since spider was cut because of that reason. I want spider! Plus, he’s smol, which is fine if he was interesting or intimidating.
#5 Cenobia - Looks to much like Celosia. Love the platform puzzle, but it just goes on too long. You have to do the same thing SIX times; 7 if you count knocking down the floor to break its armour.
#3 Quadratus - It is a tutorial boss, but the thing it is trying to teach you just makes the fight harder. Riding Agro just makes it harder to aim and isn’t even needed at all. Phalanx would have been a better tutorial boss for riding Agro and using your bow since, you HAVE to use Agro to keep up with him.
#4 Barba - Great ideas in this fight and is cinematic. Him chasing you, busting down walls; intense. I also, love how you hide and grab his beard when he looks down. However, everything he does other colossi do better. Dirge is another epic chase and is so much cooler and dynamic. Hiding and making him look for you is basically just Avion. Both require bring the colossi to you, but which is cooler. Hiding and grabbing a beard or watching a giant bird fly at you and grabbing its wing taking the battle to the sky. Doesn’t help that that fight is right before this one. Plus, he has the same appearance as Valus (a previous colossi) and Argus.
#1 Basaran - I loathe his existence. Getting him EXACTLY above a geyser AS it is going off is just so frustrating. Plus, waiting for him to get to a geyser is so slow as he is constantly shooting at you making you move away from the geyser you were at. Meaning he moves to be where you are, which isn’t at a geyser. Also, my first time ever playing as a kid I kept flipping him over but never could figure out what to do afterwards, so he flipped back over again and again. One could say that that is why I have such disdain for him. I also just don’t really like his design that much.
Buffet’s favourite colossi:
#5 Kuromori - Small done right. He is larger enough to be intimidating, but small enough to be like “WHERE DIS HE GO!” Honestly, he can absolutely sneaky as you can’t always see where he is, but he definitely sees you with wall hacks. Sniping you from places that make you scream because sometimes even than you can’t find him. I love his design too; It is so unique and creepy. It is so satisfying outplaying him and sniping his legs and watching he plummet to the ground.
#4 Avion - You standoff a colossal rock bird as it charges at you. Than you jump on its wing, holding on to dear life as it soars in the sky. All these things have been said before by countless people. Its design is also amazing.
#3 Dirge - A giant snake is chasing you and it is horrifying. Such an intense fight and I love it’s design. Plus, shooting it in the eye was unique as it is the only one you have to do so. I genuinely couldn’t figure that when I was young that when I accidentally did I was so estatic. It is just so fun and satisfying doing it and watching him crash into a wall. Controls aren’t that bad and it gets under my skin people disliking this fight because of over-exaggerated bad controls.
#Argus - Best soundtrack and one of the most beautiful arenas. I am probably one of the only people to instantly figure out how to win by looking around before the fight. Great design, nice puzzle platforming and I love how he come up from a cliff.
#1 Phalanx- Best designed colossus and I will fight you on that. What hasn’t been said why about Phalanx is great. Chasing and shooting him done with Agro, check. Jumping off Agro onto his fin look in the movies, check. Standing atop the largest colossus while it flys in the sky, check. But what I really love about Phalanx is how mysterious he is. He is the only colossus that isn’t land locked to their arena, so why doesn’t leave? The Ico rings theory keeping him there? If so that is kinda sad. Why is he the most harmless colossus? He is really nearsighted and can’t see you on the ground? Why does he have an extra eye on his left side?
So let me get this straight. Phaedra is on your worst list because
1. You need to jump onto its braids ( you’re actually meant to climb up it’s back )
2. It only has one weak point( it actually has 2 )
3. It isn’t obvious what to do (despite the fact that the tunnels are clearly there for a reason and it is stated by Dormin that it is a curious creature)
Good video. But just because Phaedra was specifically difficult to fight for YOU, doesn’t mean it is the worst Colossus in the game.
Am I the only one who doesn't like the 3rd Colossus? He just looks SO derpy. I can't get past those duck lips.
#4 if you just lure him over to a cave and wait a bit, usually after three big BANGS of him stepping around, when he bends down his braids will be right in front of you. That is how I learned to get on top of him. Lure him over, hide in the cave, (you can even use the whistle action used to call Agro to get the Colossi's attention instead of shooting him), jump on the braids and climb up. I never knew you could climb on his stubby tail until I watched someone else play it. I think at this point in the game you should be able to recognize what areas are claimable by their sharper edges/textures and slightly brighter colors.
#15 was one of the best for me to figure out how to get on top of him. There were so many steps to getting on him it was very rewarding and his arena was so big. I still can't believe the PS2 could handle such a game.
If you are playing this game for the first time, do yourself a favor and do NOT look up how to beat any of the Colossus - I promise you it is much more rewarding when you figure it out yourself. I made the mistake of looking up a few of them and it just made the game go by way too quick.
"You can't see the columns"
You're supposed to plan your route ding dong.
edit: Eh all the negatives are because the boss is hard. Except the Bull.
4:40 the only thing more counterintuitive than that was having to stab his hand for him to keep it still long enough to aim and shoot at his shoulder. All previous colossi taught you that stabbing them makes them thrash like crazy, but we're supposed to assume that this one will react completely different and hold still.
One more thing that makes this game a masterpiece: Phaedra is my personal favorite colossus fight and also my cousins absolutely least favorite. So you know what a jewel this game was way back in 2005...
The flying dragon is a fucking time consuming, you have to do each weak spots in three rounds, that includes popping hes air bags, racing him and climbing again and again, wouldnt be so bad due to the fucking flaps. And time attack? Its a nightmare
Phalanx is my favorite, you can figure out how to beat him fairly easily, and jumping from Agro to phalanx then being on top of phalanx when he’s hundreds of feet into the air is one of the coolest feelings you’ll ever get
That jump from agro to the wing is badass as fuck especially sence I RAN STRAIGHT AT THE WING AND PULLED IT OFF I FELT BADASS
I don't see why the solution to a colossus fight not being immediately obvious is a negative, especially considering Shadow is a puzzle game. That was one of the great things about playing it for the first time too: looking up at this hulking beast and thinking how there could be no possible solution to tackling it.
Never had a problem with Phaedra's AI either, and like you I too would jump up the braids. There is no wrong way to do that fight but the braids seem like the most obvious and also awe-inspiring solution. I would lure him to the catacombs and then run around until he'd peer over them and simply jump out of the exit where he would over-hang the braids. Not only is it more obvious, but to me, it's also the easier route!
But then, people find different colossi hard - for me the fifteenth is a lot of work, I disagree that he is unintuitive but I think he shakes far to much to the point where it is just impossible to get a hit in on him without jumping off and trying again. Also, the water bosses are amazing (especially Pelagia, favourite colossi in the game).
Your reasons for disliking most of the colossi on the worst 5 list mostly boil down to
1. "I forgot that this is also a puzzle game"
2. "I'm not very good at the game"
Just beat the game. I actually liked Hydrus a lot. I agree the swimming sucks, but once you get onto him and he's whipping you around under water it was really awesome.
For someone who says this is their 2nd favorite game you don't seem to know a lot about it. You aren't suppose to climb Phaedra's braids, HARD dosnt mean bad. And you can swim faster by going underneath the water greatly increasing the speed of travel in water...
I can't wait for the 10 things you didn't know video.
The urge for you to make this video was
*COLOSSAL*
All I have to say is holy crap you are wrong. IMO:
Best:
#5) Kuromori
#4) Dirge
#3) Pelagia
#2) Avion
#1) Phalanx
Worst (no order):
#5) Valus
#4) Celosia
#3) Cenobia
#2) Gaius
#1) Basaran
"Wikis are for the weak" continues to complain about how it's to hard for his brain to figure out the puzzles behind certain Colossus.
Phaedra is actually not as annoying as it is made out here. You can actually wait in the mound you draw his attention to, wait for him to lower his head and jump out the entrance to grab one of the braids. Way less finicky and faster than the strategy given here.
Surprisingly, when fighting with Dirge, you can stand on Agro and your shooting with bow would be considerably easier, Agro even avoids the pillars for you too. (R1+Left Analog forward). I've tried :-)
"i'm too dumb to figure out this boss so therefore, he sucks!"
Actually, firing arrows at Phedrea is the worst thing to do and a common mistake. Yes, shooting an arrow at him at the start is good, since he’ll move quicker to the hills. But after that you should avoid doing as much as possible, since if he is angry he won’t look down (it has never happened with me, but it did in your footage). You need him to have blue, calm eyes if you want him to look down more consistently.
Personally, I'd remove Dirge (which is actually one of my favorites) from the Worst and include Colossus #9, Basaran. Fuck that damn turtle. The battle is kinda luck based, I'm surprised it didn't make your list.
Syy: “I wish the hydrus was flushed down the toilet during development” Me: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☺️☺️🤣
hydrus was one of my favorite lol
i don’t think a lot of the stuff you mentioned makes them bad at all but i guess that’s opinion
I hated Celosia and Cenobia because if you get attacked by them, Wander will be stunned for a brief moment. Once he gets up, they continue attacking until he dies. But hey, once I got over that, taking them down was fun. And I agree with Phaedra being the worst. I dread that boss fight every time I do a new playthrough. It was a tedious mess.
wonders tired from killing all these coloosi he takes a nap
Surprisingly, you can stand on Agro and your shooting with bow would be considerably easier, Agro even avoids the pillars for you too. (R1+LAnalog forward)
About Phaedra....climbing him is ALOT easier than this, just stay inside at the entrance and he will go down like always...you don't even need to wait for him in the other side
I love colossus Dirge.
Never had any issue riding Agro and firing arrows at the same time.
I also fairly liked colossus Hydrus.
I do agree with the others on the worst colossi list though as with your number one pick for the best colossus of the game.
I feel like Phaedra is extremely underrated. He definitely has one of the most interesting designs.
While I haven't reached Phaedra yet, I've seen this fight, and I completely disagree with the unintuitive argument. You pass by the tunnel system on your way to Phaedra, and it's distinct enough that even a new player can tell they'll be important during the battle. From there, it won't be long before trial and error brings out the solution.
for me i think i had bad luck beacuse as you say i knew the tunnels had something to do with the battle so i got his attention went in the tunnels and when i got out it was attacking and searching for agro so i tried a second time but with agro away from the action i got his atention got in the tunnel agro was away and when a i got out phaedra wasn't even interested it was walking away and i throwed like 10 arrows at him
This man's list: #5 worst
My list: #1 best.
Also I'd love to add that the game is great because every colossus is a puzzle to solve before you can truly fight and enjoy the boss some enjoy the fight more and some enjoy the puzzle but it's what makes the game as great as it is.
The only one I thought was more frustrating than fun was the small-ish one in the tower arena thing who's legs you shoot with arrows (Kuromori I think?). It was definitely the hardest I think.
Yes that is It's name and me personally It wasn't hard I see glowing bit I shoot glowing bit heck I have ground scaler(wich is killing kuro before it turns back over)without queen's sword this is the ps4 version also did you know in the ps4 version you can whistle to get kuro's attention
I'm surprised #9 isn't at #1. It's the only one I don't like fighting that much. Having to lure it over to the geysers while it shoots at you is annoying. Especially when it refuses to get in the right place.
my dad had the guiser hit him but he was just like i dont give a fuck
I am extremely excited for PrioVR, as I'm a gamer that wants my gaming experience to by highly athletic, and the top three games I want to see ported to Prio are all your top favorite games. At #3 is Portal 2, because it's my favorite game, and who doesn't want to feel like they're walking around Aperture. At #2 is Undertale, because to spite asking for a VR port being a tall order due to the abstract nature of the boss battles, I have to get up and dance every time I hear any of the boss music. But #1 is easily this. I'm not even a big SotC fan; I don't even own the game. But the REASON I don't own the game is because I took one look at the gameplay and said "I want to have to perform these moves myself, or I don't want to have to perform these moves at all"
Ok, allow me to comment about some of your "worst choices".
Dirge - I never had a problem with this boss fight. I just make sure I get in a good position, making sure Agro rides straight and then turn when I feel like the right time and then I aim carefully to the colossus' eye. Maybe it was the PS3 version that made this more manageable, but that's just me.
Cenobia - I'm sorry, but calling Celosia better than Cenobia kinda ticks me off. Here's a big difference. There is a slight difference. And Cenobia is slightly smaller than Celosia, that Celosia being more of a bull and Cenobia being like a lion or a tiger. Second, the fight with Celosia is much harder than Cenobia, because when you try to stab on Celosia, it won't stop shaking. At least the way with how you fight Cenobia is more unique than any of the other fights, because unlike most Colossi, you actually have to use the environment in your favor, by using pillars to make it crash into them and lead it to a spot where you can take it down and the best part is, it doesn't shake as much as Celosia does. Also, I don't see why a Colossus being smaller than its previous ones would actually make it considered a worst one. Size doesn't matter if the fight is interesting.
Hydrus - I actually never had trouble with this fight. You don't really have to swim that much to get Hydrus' attention and when you grab it you'd only have to go about twice to get to the sigil on its head. At least the time-trial mode is forgiving for how long the fight takes with it.
Argus - Alright, I agree. The fight with Argus can take a while to figure out, but I don't consider this fight being worse. In fact, I had more trouble with Barba than I did with Argus. Sure it took me a while to figure out, but I actually am ok with this one.
Phaedra - Ok, you clearly didn't understand how exactly the fight works. First you need to get its attention towards you and then the moment it comes close, you just go to the tunnel and go all the way through instead of exiting to the side exits. Then after it bends down to try to search for you, you just have to climb on its tail, not its head. Sure for speedrunners its useful, but I don't understand how you didn't figure that out so soon.
Overall, I don't blame you for not liking these colossi, but you could've explained a little better.
(Just want you to know that this is gonna be a long comment)
Firstly, I just want to say that this was a great video! Would’ve been cool to see you rank all the colossi within the game including Quadratus, Barba, Kuromori, Basaran, Celosia, and Pelagia but hey I’m not complaining. This is coming from somebody who has done that and if you don’t mind I’d love to take the time to discuss my personal opinions on how you ranked the colossi here in this video.
Dirge:
To be honest, I actually really disagree with this one. Dirge is my 2nd favorite colossus in the game and I understand that it doesn’t have the best controls but come on…the fight is just too good. The speed at which it chases you, combined with it’s aggressive behavior, on top of hearing it cry out in pain as you carelessly stab the sigils on its back, makes this one of the most epic moments in the entire game. But…at least you did say you liked the concept of it so I’ll give you that.
Valus:
I agree. Maybe a step back at number #6 for me but I still agree with what you’re saying. It’s definitely not the best colossus (or the most memorable) but for what it’s worth it definitely made for a great introduction to the game.
Cenobia:
Again, I agree. I actually think it’s a top 3 worst but I still agree with what you said here. It is pretty disappointing seeing something so small this close to the epilogue of the game. Not to mention, how repetitive the fight is too. Pretty annoying! I actually liked Celosia’s fight more too again like you said.
Malus:
I disagree with this one, not as much as I disagreed with how you ranked Dirge but I still disagree. While Malus isn’t exactly a top 5 worst colossi in the game, it is no way a top 5 best in my eyes. Sure, the buildup is great but the fight itself is (in my opinion) pretty shitty. It’s repetitive, boring, anti-climactic, and quite easy (given that Malus only has one major sigil) to be honest. And while I do like the music, did they seriously have to let it be the only track that plays throughout the whole fight? And why? I get that this is a personal pet peeve of mine, I do but personally this fight was just very disappointing for the epilogue of the game in my opinion.
Hydrus:
Totally agree! While I don’t hate this colossus as much, it is definitely the worst water-based fight in the game by far. And it’s already bad enough that the swimming is pretty rough around the edges to be honest, but what really hurts this fight more than anything is how long it goes on for. Hydrus just feels like doing whatever the hell it wants to, and I find myself having to repeat the same cycle of having to wait for it to rise out of the water to grab onto its fur, disable its 3 horns via minor sigils, and attack its one and only major sigil at least 2-3 times which I know doesn’t sound like a long time…trust me though, it will feel like it. But hey, at least it’s minor sigils actually do something unlike some other colossus that I know of *cough *cough Phaedra *cough *cough.
Gaius:
Again, totally agree! Gaius is not only a top 3 colossus but also is one of the most unique colossi we have in the game by far. The scale, magnitude, and pure height of this monster are truly what defines it best and there’s only 2 other colossi that I can think of that can truly outweigh it in every way. Truly deserving of the #3 spot if you ask me!
Argus:
Forgive me if I sound like an asshole on this one…but not only do I disagree with this ranking, I also feel the complete opposite way about every point you made against this colossus. Firstly, let me just say that Argus (and this will be a very underrated opinion) Argus is actually my favorite colossus in the whole game! The design of this creature (while yes, is the same as Valus and Barba’s) is actually my favorite design out of all the colossi in the entire game. The arena is not only beautiful, but very unique and the fact that you can see the shrine from there only makes the fight even better. The music is one of my favorite OST’s in the game and I love how it has a “hidden” weakpoint visible after stabbing its minor sigil. Sure, it does take a long time due to the difficulty but that’s what I love about the fight. That’s the reason that Phalanx is not my favorite colossus in the game or why Avion is not there either, hell even Dirge would be at number #1 if it wasn’t due to the difficulty! Sure, Argus might have given me the most trouble but the fact that it did so is what I love about it the most. And I damn sure wish that many other people out there felt the same way that I do. And it’s a shame to me how many people often view Argus as the complete opposite. What a shame, man…
Avion:
Again, I do disagree with this one but not nearly as much as the last one. I would actually say that Avion is the colossus that I have the most mixed feelings towards. I really can’t describe it too well to be honest but let it be known that it’s definitely not the worst colossus in the game oh no, far from it! That being said, in my opinion it sure as hell ain’t the best nor even the 2nd best whatsoever.
Phaedra:
I totally, 100% agree with this one I really do! No matter what I say or do or how ever many times I play through Shadow of the Colossus, there is no other colossus in the game that defines the true meaning of ‘shit’ than Phaedra does to be 100% honest with you. You know a colossus is bad when even the music placement of all things is just so goddamn unfitting. It also doesn’t help that Phaedra also doesn’t like to cooperate often for whatever stupid dumbass reason possibly imaginable. Phaedra minor sigil is also the only one in the game that I know of which the player doesn’t even have to go after in order to defeat it. So then I have to ask, why the hell is it even there to begin with? Why just why? It’s so dumb and it also doesn’t help that Agro is required for this fight as well. But you know what? All of that could’ve been forgiven, if Phaedra’s fight on top of all of that wasn’t so god damn boring!
Phalanx:
And finally, I do agree with this one. I’d actually put Phalanx a few ranks below number #1 if I had to but nevertheless, it’s still a great fight. Maybe if the colossus did anything to harm the player then I would’ve said “hell yeah, it deserves to be number #1 on the list!” But even without that, it’s still a very enjoyable part of the game no doubt.
If you read all of this, thank you! I hope that my opinions didn’t hurt or offend you or anyone else in any way and that you understand that it only comes out of a place of the love in my heart (the same way your opinions did) for Shadow of the Colossus.
Yeah, Argus lover! I honestly don’t understand why people trouble with him; does no one actually look around? I honestly feel like I’m the one person to know instantly how to beat him by observing the arena and Argus himself. And wow, you really despise Phedrea entire existence.
Well technically you don’t need to kill #3 that way. The technique you basically HAVE to use in hard mode is jump right as it brings its sword up. You basically moon jump to the top of it.
the thing I found more difficult than giaus by that point in the game was the jump before you get to him