The Shadow of the Colossus Iceberg Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
  • It's finally here! After long last, the Shadow of the Colossus Iceberg will be broken down...sorta. I'm no expert on Shadow of the Colossus, but after days of research, I think I've got about as much information a person can get. If you have any info, or any corrections, drop em in the comments and maybe I'll make a follow up video! Thank you for watching, if you enjoyed the video sub, and drop a like, it would mean the world! Also I stream on Twitch, so check that out :)
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  • @NomadColossus
    @NomadColossus 3 года назад +1431

    Great video! I retweeted it on my feed & subbed. Some of the info is out of date (my bad - I haven't updated my blog post in a long time... but am working on it). Overall I really enjoyed it and loved the crude sketches you made to show a point ; )

    • @dumpykong
      @dumpykong  3 года назад +158

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate all the work you've done, absolutely would not have been able to make this video without your information, so it means the world!!!

    • @NomadColossus
      @NomadColossus 3 года назад +51

      @@dumpykong I actually made a video that explained the 'mistake' I made about the OPM demo colossi icons... here:ruclips.net/video/0S6CiTkSdzQ/видео.html

    • @nattdal
      @nattdal 3 года назад +16

      Haha, three weeks ago, you always are being as constant searching for any sotc videos as i am through the years, and haven't stopped, you're a legend for this game's story

    • @giuseppecappelliPSRL
      @giuseppecappelliPSRL 3 года назад +6

      Legend

    • @darshio8307
      @darshio8307 3 года назад +3

      Omg, I did not expect this XD

  • @danestambaugh255
    @danestambaugh255 3 года назад +617

    The "psychic malus" is probably referring to how malus seems to have some sort of connection with the other collosi, perched on the high ground, overlooking as wander fills the sky with beacons of the slain collosi. When you get to malus's hand, he doesn't attack, rather, looks upon in placid curiosity, he can feel the essence of all the other collosi within you, he thinks perhaps, for a moment, you're like he is. And that he only attacked you because he was acting upon his job to keep Dorman sealed

    • @frostycane5134
      @frostycane5134 3 года назад +75

      Also why is he sealed behind a gate that’s isolated from the whole land .
      His square on the map is f8 it “ fate “

    • @MddHound
      @MddHound 2 года назад +33

      However nice that sounds, I can't help to feel that he just wakes up when you enter. Entering his arena, he already looks at his hands/bracelets in somewhat surprise. Just as all others, he just wakes up ( it seems), and all colossi are very bad at getting you of them. They are slow and "dumb" that way, like "golems" made of clay who don't really understand the new world they have awoken in.

    • @airman5999
      @airman5999 Год назад +6

      I always thought he was mad at you for killing the other colossi

    • @cayden2744
      @cayden2744 Год назад +4

      @@airman5999
      It could be tho, in the seal symbol on his head, there's 15 dots.

  • @LittleBigBwner
    @LittleBigBwner 3 года назад +662

    Under water in this game is just so anonymous, dark and scary. Even just taking a dip under makes me clench my cheeks

    • @bluemonday2921
      @bluemonday2921 3 года назад +36

      The hole game was so scary to me that i couldnt keep playing

    • @mr_breadloaf3012
      @mr_breadloaf3012 3 года назад +50

      Do you mean ominous

    • @citizenvulpes4562
      @citizenvulpes4562 3 года назад +4

      @@mr_breadloaf3012 I think he does.

    • @brancolt_
      @brancolt_ 3 года назад +3

      yeah I still can't figure out what the water in this game is called

    • @LittleBigBwner
      @LittleBigBwner 3 года назад +2

      @@mr_breadloaf3012 probably

  • @okiedokie.sophie
    @okiedokie.sophie 3 года назад +486

    Wow I absolutely hated that picture of Dirge in the water thank you

    • @dumpykong
      @dumpykong  3 года назад +86

      I MADE it and it gives me nightmares 😭

    • @CHADCONTEXT
      @CHADCONTEXT 3 года назад +2

      @@dumpykong vibe check!

    • @nicolassanchez1217
      @nicolassanchez1217 3 года назад

      @@dumpykong I was avoiding to see those ocean videos and I pooped myself with a Sotc video. I'm crying 😭

    • @Acefdiamonds
      @Acefdiamonds 3 года назад

      Witch one is dirge

    • @revalution1965
      @revalution1965 2 года назад +3

      @@Acefdiamonds the sand worm w the huge evil eyes thats in the cave

  • @pushplay6211
    @pushplay6211 3 года назад +458

    I always felt the final colossus was poetically Wander. The colossi store parts of Dormin. When all colossi are destroyed, Dormin are rejoined inside of Wander. Wander’s eyes are blue like the colossi at the end. I think one interpretation (not every way of seeing it) is that Wander is the shadow of the colossi.

    • @Ranstone
      @Ranstone 3 года назад +39

      In an alternate ending, (Not used int he final game) Wander became instead of baby Ico, a hulking beast about 12 feet high, half Dormin, half colossus. This in many ways supports the possibility of your theory.

    • @TheAlison1456
      @TheAlison1456 3 года назад +25

      Wow... That's so good.
      I never realized how he's a literal shadow of all of them at the end.

    • @CHADCONTEXT
      @CHADCONTEXT 3 года назад +54

      The final colossus (Malus) can be interpreted as the final shard of Wander's human soul.
      Malus is the most humanoid colossus in terms of appearance. Ironically, Wander killing Malus cam be interpreted as fully killing his human self to become a colossus.

    • @lucidlullaby894
      @lucidlullaby894 3 года назад +44

      The interpretation of the title going from “stand in the *Shadow of the Colossus* “ to “you are now the *Shadow of the Colossus* “ is nuts

    • @shanedawndusk3290
      @shanedawndusk3290 3 года назад +2

      @@lucidlullaby894 It’s mind blowing.

  • @solarprogeny6736
    @solarprogeny6736 3 года назад +242

    I think the "Malus Psychic Connection" has to do with the fact that Malus knows where you are standing at all times even if you are hiding behind walls or in tunnels etc.

    • @tonycruise
      @tonycruise Год назад +6

      malus is the whole island including the bunkers... that is like his legs so he konws where you are because you are inside him

    • @KnightedSilverWolf
      @KnightedSilverWolf 7 месяцев назад +3

      thats just random bs ai

    • @josephstalin2606
      @josephstalin2606 4 месяца назад +7

      @@KnightedSilverWolfStill tho u can hide from other Colossi and they’ll actually lose sight of you but the last one always knows where you are no matter what. It’s def intentional

  • @hippityhoppitygetoffmyprop1000
    @hippityhoppitygetoffmyprop1000 3 года назад +300

    Also nimrod’s relationship to dormin is that he tried to make a tall tower that would be visible from anywhere, much like dormin’s shrine which is visible from a lot of places in the map. And nimrod was chopped into pieces much like dormins soul which got broken into 16 pieces.

    • @macafromthewired
      @macafromthewired 3 года назад +19

      my man nimrod forgot about clouds ands fog

    • @alysondavy2485
      @alysondavy2485 2 года назад +17

      Nimrod didn't actually built the tower just to be tall, he built the tower to reach God.

    • @aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
      @aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 2 года назад +17

      @@alysondavy2485
      And then God trolled him by making all of his workers speak different languages

  • @wesleyfilms
    @wesleyfilms 3 года назад +257

    I watched someone play The Last Guardian, and honestly, I think the thing living in the tower is an honest 'alien'. Came from the sky, has robot servants, is worshipped by primitive humans, and his home looks like the inside of an alien craft.
    Some of these seem more like half-baked fan theories tbh. There's much better stuff that could be added.

    • @kikrim1
      @kikrim1 3 года назад +17

      For me the thing that give orders to creatures is a automated system which pure purpose is keep power over the area even former kings are long dead. And kings did build this system fully concious that it will still work long after their death.

  • @liliththesolarexalted2206
    @liliththesolarexalted2206 3 года назад +132

    Honestly I really wish more had been done with Giantology. That entire marketing campaign could have been a game in and of itself, or a very fascinating spinoff.

  • @Eli-so8rk
    @Eli-so8rk 8 месяцев назад +17

    the king nimrod thing actually has a ton of references throughout the games. nimrod was responsible for building the tower of babel, which inadvertently split humanity apart through the creation of languages. in hungarian mythology he’s called “Nimrod the Giant” and in other stories he is killed by being “split into pieces.”we see a lot of these themes echoed not only in the shrine of worship and the colossi, but also in ico, where the language barrier prevents ico and yorda from understanding each other

  • @Elmithian
    @Elmithian 3 года назад +125

    Where is the "Dormin is not an evil god, but a neutral entity/being/god whose powers were feared and thus he was painted as evil by those that sealed him (as in they believed no one and nothing should have power over life and death like that)" in the iceberg?

    • @solarprogeny6736
      @solarprogeny6736 3 года назад +1

      It's no theory that evil/good are relative concepts, not absolutes. I don't see why it should be included in the iceberg since it doesn't really add much at all and isn't a secret in any way.

    • @leon9021
      @leon9021 3 года назад +9

      @@solarprogeny6736 Really, Dormin not evil doesnt fit but Ueda is Nomad does?

    • @CHADCONTEXT
      @CHADCONTEXT 3 года назад +9

      @@leon9021 Ueda is Nomad is just an inside joke known for years.

    • @leon9021
      @leon9021 3 года назад

      @@CHADCONTEXT exactly

  • @innisjohnston
    @innisjohnston 3 года назад +201

    There's actually been a ninth unused colossus discovered named Yamori A. It's insane how we're still finding out more about the game to this day.

    • @Ranstone
      @Ranstone 3 года назад +35

      This is a myth. Yamori is the actual name of the 8th colossus. This myth came from the fact that the texture "hn_yamori_B_hone03.nto" in the NICO file from the demo CD looks so drastically different than the one used in the final game, however, all the other textures, iconicaly "hn_yamori_B_usiroasi_migi.nto" and it's three clones match the 8th colossus' legs perfectly. (Why they had 4 identical textures is beyond me.)

    • @berserkerciaran
      @berserkerciaran 3 года назад +19

      @@Ranstone But Kuromori is called Yamori B, which could imply either an older version, or even a scrapped colossous based on the same concept
      (Just like Valus is Minotaur A, Barba Minotaur B and Argus Minotaur C)

    • @dragstra8448
      @dragstra8448 3 года назад +21

      Yamori A is separate from Yamori B. It has its own idol statue listed in the PS3 data sheets (right next to Yamori B) and Ueda himself mentioned there being 2 gecko colossi before Yamori A was cut.

    • @TheAlison1456
      @TheAlison1456 3 года назад +9

      @Dragstra Can you provide a source for your claim that Ueda said so?
      In interactions with JoJo fans, a lot of them make claims about Araki like that which are false.

    • @palmeida1520
      @palmeida1520 3 года назад +8

      @@TheAlison1456 if i am not mistaken, there is an entry explaining everything about yamori A in the team ico wiki.

  • @carpet163
    @carpet163 3 года назад +51

    That KNACK picture was funny. I'm sure Dunkey would make something about it.

  • @irreverentizzy5426
    @irreverentizzy5426 3 года назад +170

    I think I can actually clarify the "everything is scaled down" bit.
    I remember that there's a Nomad Colossus(?) video where they go over the sizes of objects in the game and compare them to real life things to see how tall Wander is. Wander himself is like 4 feet tall, so based on that the colossi aren't actually as massive as they appear. Of course they're still completely huge, but if Wander was the average height of a male now they probably wouldn't be quite as intimidating.

    • @WookieWarriorz
      @WookieWarriorz 3 года назад +32

      Increasing his height by like 15 inches really isn typing to make anything much smaller ?

    • @DanSutherland
      @DanSutherland 2 года назад +20

      This was because Nomad assumed the "in-game scale" to be = to "real-life or intended scale". According to the dev statements on Phalanx's length approx. 200 meters Nomad's measurements come up short though. But when Nomad's 140-ish meter Phalanax gets scaled up to 200m, Wander ends up being a pretty normal height. I think the ratio was like 7:10 or so.
      The in game scale is based on the unit of measurement of the engine. Often game engines, especially older ones, don't use something like meters as their standard measurement though. There's just something they make that is = 1 unit of measurement and then things are scaled appropriately around them. Scale also can get distorted when importing 3D models made with different software into a new dev environment.

  • @Sephiroth10261
    @Sephiroth10261 3 года назад +84

    all these dirge pictures made me cry myself to sleep

    • @Saeloft
      @Saeloft 3 года назад +4

      I've yet to understand how to beat him after all these years

    • @nonnone7060
      @nonnone7060 3 года назад +1

      @@Saeloft with agro

    • @Cyberium
      @Cyberium 3 года назад +2

      At least you get to sleep after seeing Dirge. :3

    • @Saeloft
      @Saeloft 3 года назад

      @@nonnone7060 that was obvious but never knew what to do just got chased lol

  • @FranK-tg7ou
    @FranK-tg7ou 3 года назад +68

    You can’t see avion early but before you jump into the waters you can shoot him with arrows and he’ll fly over to that area and flap his wings and push You away with wind

    • @deranged_miyeon_stan
      @deranged_miyeon_stan 3 года назад

      Do you have a video for this?

    • @FranK-tg7ou
      @FranK-tg7ou 3 года назад +9

      @@deranged_miyeon_stan unfortunatly not i cant record my ps3 but you can try for yourself or anyone can if they want if im wrong then mandella effect it real

    • @timmadone8930
      @timmadone8930 Год назад +6

      @@deranged_miyeon_stan I can confirm that this is true at least on the PS4 remake as I've done it myself & might make a video at some point, although there are already videos on here showing this. Avion is my 1st favorite colossus & I've spent a lot of time trying different things to see what will happen while in his arena. It still feels a little intimidating when Avion first swoops down towards you as you're about to grab onto him.

  • @tylerhawksmoor9601
    @tylerhawksmoor9601 3 года назад +25

    Maybe the reason for the "argus jumps off the cliff line'" is because before fighting it Dormin says "a giant has fallen into the valley"? still doesn't explain much lol

  • @Nobody2989
    @Nobody2989 3 года назад +152

    No mention of goats in the iceberg?! That was such a fun search when the PS4 remaster came out.
    Also in the PS4 version, there is a small door next to Celosia's temple with crumbled debris blocking the way inside. If you glitch through the floor near Celosia's arena, you can clearly see the black outline of a room behind there: is it just an artifact of how the debris is rendered in the game, some kind of cut secret, or is there some way to get inside now? Idk

    • @timmadone8930
      @timmadone8930 Год назад +9

      That black void is near Celosia is of interest. If you glitch through the map near the main temple & look up where the Sword Of Dormin is located, you will also see a black void. However, there is nothing there until you collect all 79 gold coins. If you try to jump into that area before collecting all the coins, you will just fall through the black void until you die. Perhaps there is something you need to do in order to make the black void near Celosia become a physical place.

    • @thepsyshyster8243
      @thepsyshyster8243 Год назад +8

      @@timmadone8930 Considering that the original theory of SotC's "last secret" was that the door in Celosia's arena could be opened, I wouldn't be surprised if they planned for the Sword of Dormin to be located there before moving it to the Shrine of Worship. Or maybe there's still a secret left to be found? I doubt it...

    • @timmadone8930
      @timmadone8930 Год назад +10

      @@thepsyshyster8243 In January of this year I found the number 24 etched into on a rock near colossus 14 ( I uploaded a video showing it ) and despite many times exploring that area, it still took 4 years of playing the PS4 remake to notice it. So yes, there is still things to discover in the Forbidden Lands for the most dedicated of Secret Seekers.

    • @timmadone8930
      @timmadone8930 Год назад +8

      @@thepsyshyster8243 As for the door in Celosia's arena, we know it's empty in the PS2/PS3 version. However, that might not be the case with the PS4 remake. If you fall through the map at the main temple & look up before collecting all 79 gold coins, the stairs leading to the alter & the alter itself are not present. That entire newly created area doesn't manifest until you collect all 79 coins. Makes you wonder if anything else in the game won't appear until you do a certain something.

  • @theslimiestfiberlog647
    @theslimiestfiberlog647 3 года назад +39

    I bought this game 3 times, ps2, ps3 and ps4. I remember playing this when I was like 7 years old, not knowing what tf to do just riding my horse around but being absolutely taken away by the graphics, the setting and the beauty of the landscape. Shadows of the Colossus is by far my favorite game, they couldn’t have done better.

    • @RustyShackleford420
      @RustyShackleford420 3 года назад

      Same, I got it for 5 dollars in a blank case from GameStop and without internet I spent hours riding around until I happened upon the first collosus and my mind was blown

    • @nobodyspecial115
      @nobodyspecial115 2 года назад

      Same, I had gotten the demo disk from Playstation Magazine and instantly knew I wanted this game an got it for Christmas in '05. Since then I've gotten it on PS3 an the remake on PS4. I've spent an unhealthy amount of time in the Forbidden Lands

    • @benayers8622
      @benayers8622 Год назад

      yeah my original game was kept safe and separate from all my other games lol i think i may hav sadly lost the included artwork postcards when i moved house tho :( what a game!

  • @makoto5851
    @makoto5851 3 года назад +37

    Sotc is truly something else. Every time i play it i just sit and watch the environments and take pictures of everything. The forbidden lands feel like a home

  • @mrroblinx
    @mrroblinx 3 года назад +66

    Good video!
    Just wanted to clarify something, hopefully I don't come off as annoying... the "orange bricks" seen in the devil screenshots are not the same as the ones in I2, they look nothing alike and the connection was superficial at best. At the time that was all we had that could relate to Devil, but recently a lot of stuff was found that revealed its original location :)

    • @dumpykong
      @dumpykong  3 года назад +7

      Very helpful, thank you!

  • @infamousgamer767
    @infamousgamer767 3 года назад +23

    Everything scaled down likely relates to how small wander (and the other humans) seem to be. There are a few sources on this but I believe nomad Colossus has the most exact description of wander's height in relation to the world.

    • @CodeeXD
      @CodeeXD Год назад +4

      He's 4 feet tall apparently. Also makes sense why Argo was so big in comparison

  • @kevinhixson1586
    @kevinhixson1586 3 года назад +159

    Did you make a custom iceberg style for the background.

    • @dumpykong
      @dumpykong  3 года назад +63

      Yup I made all of the backgrounds!

    • @y1000ablet
      @y1000ablet 3 года назад +5

      @@dumpykong it looks VERY good

    • @maskingtables
      @maskingtables 3 года назад +6

      Every iceberg background is personalized

    • @jbark678
      @jbark678 3 года назад +1

      @@dumpykong You did a very good job

  • @Sh1rogane
    @Sh1rogane 3 года назад +46

    Nimrod and Dormin in fact have a lot of things in common, but anyway very good video (and Wander is definitly not an angel hahaha)

    • @CHADCONTEXT
      @CHADCONTEXT 3 года назад

      its been a long time I played the game, is Wander the *true* antagonist of the game?

    • @macafromthewired
      @macafromthewired 3 года назад +2

      @@CHADCONTEXT not really, he kills the colossi for selfish reasons, but there's honestly reason to believe he's a very young man (like 15-16 or something) who was devastated by the sacrifice of mono and wished to undo it by any means necessary. it makes him do some really questionable things and make very bad decisions, but no, i don't think he's honestly the antagonist. there really isn't one, except for dormin, but even they aren't completely antagonistic.
      wander was used as a vessel to ressurect a god under the false pretenses that he wasn't being tricked. he was just a naive grief-stricken kid used for dormin's benefit.

    • @demonchild4488
      @demonchild4488 3 года назад +1

      @@macafromthewired Do you have a source on wander being a child? I always thought he was in his mid 20's and theres no interview or in game text saying hes a teenager or smth

  • @realkingofantarctica
    @realkingofantarctica 3 года назад +104

    Shadow of the Colossus has achieved something that possibly no other piece of media has or even could achieve. Absolutely incredible.
    Edit: Also, Pelagia Poggers.

  • @obliv3on
    @obliv3on 3 года назад +28

    what a great game and memories I had playing this. Life was so different. Thoroughly enjoyed this man. I hope you make more of these on other games, or just any content of you're own, I will gladly watch. subbed!:)

  • @UltravioletNomad
    @UltravioletNomad 3 года назад +94

    "Mono is Emon's daughter"
    I am now imagining a FNF mod where Wanderer has a rap battle with Emon with Mono's corpse in the background.

  • @R1nae
    @R1nae 3 года назад +32

    Dude, no lie, I was half way through working on making a SOTC iceberg video. I guess I should have worked faster because now I gotta scrap it, lol. This is a great video tho. I know first hand that finding some of the things in this were hard af, either that or I’m just bad at research. Good work. Will subscribe👌

    • @drkickit2029
      @drkickit2029 3 года назад +3

      Keep up the video m8, would love to see it and compare with this iceberg

  • @santiagoporroprofe2745
    @santiagoporroprofe2745 3 года назад +85

    Im kinda sad you didn't mention this but the names of the colossus (barba, kuromori) are not actually "real". They are not in the game or any official guide, the community made them up. The actual names are the ones from the preview version (minotaur, elvis) that the developers used. And Ueda's intention was that they remain unnamed during your playthrough.

    • @TheAlison1456
      @TheAlison1456 3 года назад +2

      Did you deduce the intent, or did Ueda make it explicit?
      I agree it was a missed opportunity.

    • @santiagoporroprofe2745
      @santiagoporroprofe2745 3 года назад +5

      @@TheAlison1456 I mean if they're not in the game is because Ueda could have included their names but chose not to. In any case, the fan names are still not real

    • @AquaFan1998
      @AquaFan1998 2 года назад +4

      @@santiagoporroprofe2745 tbh i like the names, it gives them actual indeifiers instead of blandly calling them by number or description. Sptc is made to be interpretational so the names can be as valid as the person wants them to be. So the names are no more or less real as anyother interpretation

    • @santiagoporroprofe2745
      @santiagoporroprofe2745 2 года назад +2

      @@AquaFan1998 the names are not in the game, or in any guide. I don't mind using them (I like them), I just thought it was weird that you didn't mention that they were made up by the fans.

    • @AquaFan1998
      @AquaFan1998 2 года назад

      @@santiagoporroprofe2745 yes i know that or id be call valus minotour A. In your message that i replied to it felt as if you were very against those names tbh

  • @olookslike0
    @olookslike0 3 года назад +5

    The fact that people have scowered this game so hard is a testament to just how mysterious and ethereal it is. SotC really is unlike any other game, and I think it leaves most players with this sensation that what they played was much deeper than what they thought was the whole story. Though it's sad to remember that in the end, it's a finite game with finite development, so there's only so much to uncover. Even still, dwelling on what could have been or the unsolved questions about the development definitely keep it feeling like this deep dark cavern of chilling wonder.

  • @BMI007
    @BMI007 Год назад +5

    Awesome video, and I liked how you ended it talking about symbolism. What the story is actually about can be debated, but it's all about what you take from it. For me, it's a story about love, sacrifice, and rebirth, but I understand that other people may get something different from it and that's okay, that's what makes this game so great.

  • @timmadone8930
    @timmadone8930 Год назад +13

    At 17:46 it's quite possible the colossi were scaled down in size from what was originally intended. Since the game was originally going to be multi-player on line where up to 4 players could climb around on a colossus to take it down, the size of the colossi would have most likely been bigger than what we ended up with. The smaller colossi that made it into the final version of the game were probably thought up after it was decided the game was no longer going to be multi-player.

    • @optiplanetomatosoup
      @optiplanetomatosoup 4 месяца назад +1

      it's referring to the fact that there's an "in game" size and a "real life" size. for example, wander is 4'1 or so in game whereas, in real life, he's 5'7 ish. likely due to scaling issues and constraints of the PS2. I think nomad said that they colossi are around 38% smaller than their real life sizes

  • @alibektas8934
    @alibektas8934 3 года назад +32

    Really really well made my friend. You deserve many more viewers. Shadow of Colossus captured me more then any game before or after it. It truly is lightning in a bottle.

    • @revalution1965
      @revalution1965 2 года назад

      Idk about using the lightning in a bottle analogy w this game maybe the studio or creator himself though since they/him also made ico and last guardian which are both amazing in their own right imo

  • @arthurdossantos6826
    @arthurdossantos6826 3 года назад +11

    A lot of people have found some real life mythology in the files, lots about alchemy and stuff. It's pretty cool to look it up

  • @federicoricca2512
    @federicoricca2512 3 года назад +11

    20:26 theres actually a cave down the place where Argus is at, so he could have been there before you fight him

  • @TheAlison1456
    @TheAlison1456 3 года назад +8

    00:35 I was deeply fearful of the Colossi as a kid. Every time I got near and on top of one I'd get so scared.

  • @balder.1454
    @balder.1454 3 года назад +14

    Holy fuck i never though that somebody would do a sotc iceberg, really nice video!! im happy that the community of this game still alive 15 years later

    • @lukurd5923
      @lukurd5923 3 года назад +2

      That's how you know the game's good

  • @jman997700
    @jman997700 3 года назад +1

    I like your style! Video popped up randomly but i really liked your comedic edits! You have good timing and spacing. I never expect the joke to happen which makes it funnier. Good stuff, keep it up!

  • @jasewilliams2055
    @jasewilliams2055 3 года назад +4

    I glad that I ran across this video because now you have a new subscriber. I was literally just watching speedruns, but Shadow of the Colossus caught my eyes immediately. Lol keep up the good work

  • @ErectedGasCan
    @ErectedGasCan 3 года назад +12

    The phoenix pic made my day.

  • @jakeycarpet
    @jakeycarpet 2 года назад +46

    i think the new lore that was found in recent leaks is interesting re: 3:39: there *were* natural colossi in the world, and a group of warriors named the dormin blamed the colossi for natural disasters. so they exterminated all the colossi until they lost their humanity and became one giant single entity; that's why dormin refers to themselves with we/us pronouns, and why wander has shadow people surround him every time he kills a colossus. so the 16 colossi in game were created to house fragments of dormin, but there were natural colossi before in the world- and absolutely none of the game tells you this!

    • @theonlybilge
      @theonlybilge Год назад +3

      Deities/gods are often symbolically described as being/compared to royalty, and monarchs have used the "royal we".

    • @santiagodiaz3358
      @santiagodiaz3358 Год назад +1

      ​@@theonlybilge what leaks are you referring to?

    • @theonlybilge
      @theonlybilge Год назад +2

      @@santiagodiaz3358
      Wrong person.
      There were Sony leaks.

    • @santiagodiaz3358
      @santiagodiaz3358 Год назад

      @@theonlybilge yeah I accidentally replied to your comment, didn't realise until now lol. Thanks, I'll look into that

  • @MalditoNoisi
    @MalditoNoisi 3 года назад +22

    Lovecraft had already shown me that I had a phobia of deep dark water and huge creatures, this game just confirmed it.

  • @BraveShowBoys
    @BraveShowBoys 3 года назад +10

    I just realized i have the opm demo. My cousin gave it to me long ago cause i actually enjoyed playing it. I went back through my games and found it along with the magazine

  • @raeraeraeraeraerae
    @raeraeraeraeraerae 3 года назад +8

    Expected you to have 100k+ subscribers. 600 with this quality content? Expressive! I hope you blow up!

  • @romantisanon4647
    @romantisanon4647 3 года назад +7

    This is a good video and educational! I also love your Personal touch you added. Thank you for your work. But a word of advice: when discussing topics, even if they are blatantly incorrect, it is often more entertaining and insightful to spend more time actually discussing and weighing the entry. For example, instead of just dismissing an entry with a “no this is wrong” try to elaborate on how it *could* be right or how it *could* exist. This keeps the magic and mystery of the entry alive without spreading misinformation.

  • @wearedeadstars
    @wearedeadstars 3 года назад +2

    I wish I was able to find more with all of the Agro hops I tried back in the day. I will say it was a blast being on the forums and making Agro hop videos. I made some pretty impressive jumps. Great video.

  • @Infernal_Resonance
    @Infernal_Resonance 3 года назад +5

    Being that Shadow of the Colossus is among my top 5 favorite games, I think this video was as perfect as it could be

  • @ThatHypnotizedHimbo
    @ThatHypnotizedHimbo 3 года назад +6

    My theory on the ICO rings is either some sort of hint given to the player of the colossi’s flight patterns, a rough outline of the colossi’s flight pattern and AI pathfinding of where to go that was left there cause it fit with the area artistically, or both. No definitive answer, but I’m leaning more to both being a possibility

  • @Raybro16
    @Raybro16 3 года назад +9

    "iT mAkEs LeSs SeNsE tHaN tHe TrEe!!" I died laughing at that XD

  • @timmadone8930
    @timmadone8930 2 года назад +11

    At 8:18 you went with the correct choice. Mono is pronounced mow ( like mow the lawn ) & no. Wander actually says her name one time & one time only during the game. This occurs during the cut scene in which Wander is dreaming that Mono has awakened. When the camera zooms away from Mono & we get a close up of Wander lying on the stone floor, he makes a slight grunt sound & right after that he says "Mono".

  • @theowl2044
    @theowl2044 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is why SOTC is the greatest game ever made. Nearly two decades after its release, people are still trying to figure out its lore and secrets. Incredible.

  • @mattatheus
    @mattatheus 3 года назад +9

    I've been waiting for someone to make this since iceberg videos became a thing

  • @nevy4256
    @nevy4256 3 года назад +3

    Pelagia Poggers!
    An absolutely excellent video. Good shit, man

  • @jktwice8235
    @jktwice8235 3 года назад +24

    I feel like a few of these are inside jokes within the community.

  • @obi-wankenobi5730
    @obi-wankenobi5730 2 года назад +12

    Fun fact: Fumito Ueda is aware of the possible references to Nimrod. When asked if the whole thing was based on the similarities, he said the similarities are "purely coincidental"

  • @denovanzuniga6142
    @denovanzuniga6142 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for making this video man! Liked!

  • @cleo2010able
    @cleo2010able 3 года назад +5

    You are funny as hell, why am I finding your videos just now?

  • @AirdnaPlays
    @AirdnaPlays 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant video! I love the community around SotC, and that so many discoveries are still being made so many years later. It's like some kind of organically grown ARG :D

  • @nomorechqnnel
    @nomorechqnnel 2 года назад

    dude this video is so good, very VERY well done man

  • @mubarakzahruddin
    @mubarakzahruddin 8 месяцев назад +1

    This game plot is hauntingly sad. And the silent environment helps the storytelling a lot. The 'you're the actual villain' twist actually very impactful in this game.
    .
    1st colossus i faced, i felt terrified. One by one, my confidence grew. But the twist made me feel bad 😂.
    Everytime I replayed, knowing the real story and seeing the colossi empty emotionless eyes rly gets to me.

  • @remipennel121
    @remipennel121 3 года назад +3

    Awesome video dude! u deserve more subscribers.

  • @LynkynPeppers
    @LynkynPeppers Год назад

    Okay this is the first iceberg video I've seen with a meter showing how confident you are in the topic, cool addition don't know why more don't have that?

  • @Future_Doggo
    @Future_Doggo 3 года назад +32

    Shadow of the colossus is basically a playable movie. One of my favorite games of all time.

    • @WookieWarriorz
      @WookieWarriorz 3 года назад +9

      Except it has player autonomy, gameplay mechanics, failure and victory states, different outcomes and approaches etc.
      It's more like a really video game.

    • @carpet163
      @carpet163 3 года назад

      @@WookieWarriorz It is a very cinematic game however.

    • @TheAlison1456
      @TheAlison1456 3 года назад +4

      @Jacob The dude @future dog I see what you mean, but within gaming, "cinematic" is attached to a lot of bad practices; it has a negative connotation. That's why people are quickly repelled by the thought.

  • @TheMsmanny
    @TheMsmanny 2 года назад +2

    What a great video all the way around. Loved it till the end.

  • @elklover892
    @elklover892 3 года назад

    23:59 Love that photo! Would love that as a poster! Also, awesome video!

  • @thevenomspino
    @thevenomspino Год назад +2

    11:07
    This could refer to how the order in which you fought the colossi was changed, as some colossi were changed during development based on when they were fought(this can be shown in the E3 2005 demo that was found). Example being Barba, who was one of the last colossi you would fight, and they were not only more aggressive but they had a blade that they would use to attack you with.

  • @Eyetrauma
    @Eyetrauma 3 года назад +1

    Pelagia, you always were my little pogchamp.
    s/o to you for this video and as always s/o to Nomad for keeping the dream alive

  • @jacksykes4429
    @jacksykes4429 3 года назад +6

    Very well made video! (Wish there was a section on Dirge’s original creepy game over screen.)

  • @Evan-mt7bc
    @Evan-mt7bc 3 года назад +3

    I think the 2 Colossus refers to an old cut blurb about Dirge "Along with its friend, it shakes the earth..." which is in the final version of the game "Shaking the earth, its gaze is upon thee..."
    I've heard 2 theories to this blurb, either Dirge was originally supposed to be fought alongside another colossus, most common theories seem to revolve around the cut Worm, Monkey or Spider colossus or potentially with Phalanx which would have been an interesting fight trying to pop Phalanx out of the sky while Dirge is trying to monch you and holy hell what a fight that would be
    Or that it's a botched mistranslation that was supposed to encourage the player to use Agro in the fight since Dirge is the first fight where the fight is pretty much impossible without Agro.

  • @uwuthanizeme1405
    @uwuthanizeme1405 3 года назад

    Hope you do more of this stuff your personality for it is great

  • @lucidlullaby894
    @lucidlullaby894 3 года назад +3

    11:36 That is a horrifying cap to use for that section, dear god colossus eyes are creepy

    • @AluminumFusion22
      @AluminumFusion22 2 года назад

      Yeah, it feels like he intentionally uses Dirge screenshots constantly throughout the video. Good content, but Jesus Christ this made me freeze up.

  • @nitpick
    @nitpick 4 месяца назад

    i just finished the game and hoo MAN, what a delightful experience
    thanks for this video, definitely confirmed some of the hypothesis I was thinking of

  • @wiplein982
    @wiplein982 Год назад +1

    Microsoft Paint should be an obligatory addition to any sort of iceberg video xD Great work though, many things I completely missed or would never have manager to piece together this nicely

  • @MarillSweatshirt
    @MarillSweatshirt 3 года назад +23

    I'd give anything to get a "Snyder cut" of this game especially on next gen..... There's a timelime we did.🥺

  • @RetroDeathReviews666
    @RetroDeathReviews666 3 года назад +1

    Great video!
    Also Stubbs the Zombie is a masterpiece. I also wish I could play it for the first time again lol. Made a (now crappy) review video on it a few years ago for Halloween! :D

  • @Mote.
    @Mote. Год назад

    Nice pictures throughout the video. 👍🏻
    Shadow of The colossus is such a gorgeous game

  • @levidavis1093
    @levidavis1093 3 года назад

    Very interesting! Thank you so much :) I love SotC :)

  • @alka6432
    @alka6432 3 года назад +5

    I used to be terrified of this game as a kid something about the isolation of the world got to me

  • @getshwifty3101
    @getshwifty3101 4 месяца назад

    I played this game for months, if not years.
    This and MM, both, I had an almost autistic obsession with. Where I lived in my head, and came up with my own stories, friends, and goals.
    Going back to it when it came out on PS4, I couldn't believe how small the world felt. I remember it being so much bigger. And it really hit me how much life changes your perspective.

  • @MissElixir
    @MissElixir 2 года назад

    Ooh I liked this! Would you consider doing a play through of the games?

  • @TofuSG98
    @TofuSG98 3 года назад +5

    17:42 I think you might've gotten it right, maybe the bird is a tracking one used by Emon.

  • @rosiemymelody
    @rosiemymelody 3 года назад

    this video is a lot better than i expected, awesome job
    but i couldn't watch it until the end because of the dirge art on the third layer--

  • @Chuuruth
    @Chuuruth 3 года назад +4

    I'm not suprised of all in this video at beginning until
    "Nomad Colossus is Fumito Ueda"

  • @monadamus42
    @monadamus42 2 года назад

    Great video, thanks, bro.

  • @lilstrats944
    @lilstrats944 7 месяцев назад

    I played it for my first time this year! I was heading to the second colossus, after I entered the descending sand path.. the screen shook and rumbled. That told me I was in the right place. After that.. I couldn’t stop playing. Gaius will always be my favorite.

  • @dreigon7550
    @dreigon7550 3 года назад +2

    19:37 after defeating a Basaran you climb Malus which on his Tower restraint has a Kuromori and after climbing up you fight Avion on top of Malus. That is 4, if you want 2 then I'd go with Malus and Kuromori.

  • @Torinna_
    @Torinna_ 6 месяцев назад

    Never have I played a game that blew my away the first time I beat it as much as Shadow of the Colossus. This game has remained so mystifying even after my countless playthroughs and has never, ever and never will lose that magic. I remember the first time I picked this game up. It was 2007 and for my 14th birthday, my brother gave me his hand me down PS2 and his 15 or so games he had with it. I had either played or knew every game he had, except for one game known as Shadow of the Colossus. I played it and beat it in one sitting and it only took me 5-6 hours. Despite being such a short game in retrospect, it BLEW me away. I have replayed this game over 30 times. Whether it be the PS2, PS3 or PS4 version, this game will always be special to me

  • @OmegaVideoGameGod
    @OmegaVideoGameGod 10 месяцев назад +1

    I just beat this game for the first time and I agree I loved this game and it really shows every game is longer than it suppose to be.

  • @LyseanEmpire
    @LyseanEmpire 3 года назад +3

    l don't think that the "time was frozen" quote is to be taken literally, because some of the colossi look like they've been stationary for years, having moss grow on them and things of that nature. Maybe Ueda meant that nothing changed since the forbidden lands were barren? l mean, we see birds, and we see lizards, so there should be an ecosystem in place.

  • @hexadecimal9914
    @hexadecimal9914 2 года назад

    its related/inspired in Nimrod because the stoey says he devided his souls in 16 relics. Thnaks for the video, love this game since i played on ps2

  • @Warxoth
    @Warxoth 3 года назад

    Solid vid to start off your channel

  • @passenger7262
    @passenger7262 2 года назад

    Great video good job man.

  • @PurplexxInuxBokuSS
    @PurplexxInuxBokuSS Год назад +6

    I personally vibe with the Mono as Emon's daughter theory. It really strengthens his more antagonistic role in the game and why it drove Wander to do what he did.
    Emon seems like the type of leader to be callous for the good of their clan and outright ignored her existence so there wouldn't be an obvious link of her to him.
    Then again, the minimalist context and clues in this game is the beauty of it and the players are invited to make of it as they will.

  • @stephaniemaack6838
    @stephaniemaack6838 3 года назад +6

    I love this omg

  • @boris2656
    @boris2656 4 месяца назад

    9:40 i love how everyone has these amazing lovecraftian sounding names and *monke*

  • @kamo7293
    @kamo7293 Год назад

    19:28 been binging nomads videos again, and something he noticed was that dormin refers to one of the colossus as having a friend, and that there is an unused worm type colossus, and that maybe thats what dormin was referring to

  • @SpaceOmega-zz6vs
    @SpaceOmega-zz6vs 3 года назад

    Great and somewhat funny video. :) Since the E3 5 demo was recently found, there are probably going to be some new ideas too.
    By the way is it alright if you give a link to the blog post about the Phoenix at I4 theory I posted in the description? I've noticed you showed some of it but didn't give a link to it. It was called "Theory - Phoenix was at I4".

  • @donald984
    @donald984 3 года назад +3

    if nomad was actually fumito ueda, that would be the biggest flip in gaming history. Im actually somewhat hoping its true

  • @Scrubermensch
    @Scrubermensch 3 года назад +10

    This iceberg does not make justice to the mysteries of the game, try this one
    imgur.com/a/cyQ5FrP
    Also
    Griffin: Kyos
    Monkey: Saru
    Worm: Dionin
    Spider: Aberth
    Phoenix: Adar Flam

    • @SanelyInsane13
      @SanelyInsane13 3 года назад +1

      Has there been an explaination of this one yet?

    • @Scrubermensch
      @Scrubermensch 3 года назад +1

      @@SanelyInsane13 nothing on youtube about it, I found this one on reddit some months ago when the iceberg stuff became popular

    • @revalution1965
      @revalution1965 2 года назад +1

      @@Scrubermensch damn wish someone would do this one there’s some interesting shit on there

  • @isaacmarshmallow8751
    @isaacmarshmallow8751 3 года назад +5

    Nimrod built the tower of Babel