Suggestion: If your replacement gear is too tight, sand material off the metal base of the new gear until it runs smoothly. Details: I got the cheap Chinese replacement gear (white plastic with a hex set screw). It was extremely tight and very notchy feeling when turning the hand wheel. It was binding so hard that the motor could not overcome the resistance. I compared the overall height of the new gear with the original gear. The new gear was too tall. I resolved the problem by sanding off the base of the metal gear housing until the old and new gears were the same overall height. (Thus adjusting the bevel gear engagement). I had to sand off quite a bit of material. I’m sure I didn’t get it exactly flat but I think the longitudinal loads are not significant.
Thank you, Paul. Somewhere in these 600+ comments is one similar to yours, but without the detail. I appreciate you sharing your experience on my video. I've pinned your comment to the top so other viewers will see it first, hopefully before they buy a gear, and know to watch out for that tall metal base. Thanks for saving your machine and take care.
I am having this exact same problem with the new gear that I bought. It is very tight and feels notchy when you turn the hand wheel, just like you said. The motor can't turn hard enough to actual get the gears to move. I appreciate you pinning this comment to the top and also thank you for telling us about your experience.
@@stealthyninja11 Welcome, and thanks again to Paul for sharing his experience. Apparently, another batch of "too tall" gears is being sold. I believe they are actually a different part number than 155819 and are made for a different model/models. The teeth and the base are separate part numbers and I think a factory is going by the teeth part number when selling to vendors on eBay and Amazon, etc. I've had another viewer email me that he had to use a grinder to lower the height of the metal base to match the original height of the old gear. The fix works b/c the teeth are the same as the old gear.
I had the same problem with the same cheap gear. I'm sending it back to get a better brand. Also, the cheap gear hex screw is much smaller than the original and I don't feel like it will tighten down as it should. I would prefer the flat screwdriver head. My advice, don't buy the cheap china gear.
I just finished fixing my mother's (singer 247 sewing machine) which my grandmother gave it to my mother 30 years ago and it means so much to my mother, I changed the vertical shaft gear and set the timing and it worked like magic. I have never opened a sewing machine in my life I searched youtube for videos and I found this great video and followed it step by step. THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing your knowledge. greetings from Jordan.
You are a very good son, Omar. I can just imagine how happy your mother is to have the machine working again. I'm glad you found my video and it is kind of you to leave this nice comment which gave me a big smile. 😀Thank you.
Andy, thank you so much for this video. You saved either my marraige or my life, because during the Virus Crisis my wife was going to strangle me if she didn't get her machine working. Got a used one for $40, and the top gear broke immediately. And I really appreciate your patient and in depth videos. I am an engineer my self, and I now appreciate more the beauty and elegance of these sophisticated and practical machines
Wow, I'm glad we were able to work together to save you! We need guys like you and marriages like yours. I am happy you found the video and thanks for taking the time to comment. I too applaud the design, engineering, and manufacturing peoples who made these wonderful machine. Slide rules and metal lathes in an age before computerized manufacturing. If you want a paying hobby, just advertise that you will replace those gears and you could be a busy guy, based on the dozens of emails and comment I get each week about them. I see the number of views on the video is appoaching 30K now. I never imagined that many but knew many people would be interested that have the dozen or so models with that weak gear. The machines themselves are good, strong, and versatile. With the new gear they can go a few more decades I think. Thanks again and be safe.
@@andytubesewing1953 Thanks to you, I've been able to restore a few machines. During this pandemic, I needed a new hobby. I found your channel, and have been happily restoring a couple of machines friends were going to send to the dump. I have ordered a few from Thrift Stores, since we are unable to go much of anywhere. Thank you for your video!
@@klcain518 You're welcome and I'm glad you did find the video. Thanks for saving those machines.👍 I hope you are finding it a rewarding hobby. I sure have! Thanks for taking the time to comment; you made my evening. Take care.
@@andytubesewing1953, yes I am finding this a very rewarding hobby. I'm going to have to find some in the dump, estate sales, or yard sales to rescue, once this is over. Right now I'm buying online, from thrift stores, which is rewarding. I am an engineer by training, so mechanically these aren't very complex machines and relatively easy to fix. Right now I hate fixing the computerized ones, and sometimes this isn't possible. This hobby, allows me to keep my mind learning new things. You made my evening as well answering my comment. My feline colleague loves your videos as well!
Andy - Great video! Really helpful tips, and great explanations. IMPORTANT NOTE: When setting the timing, it is critical that the needle is on the UPSTROKE when you are stopping at the timing mark. If you the needle is on the downstroke, and you go through the timing process, the needle will not raise in time and will hit the rotating bobbin mechanism --this will snap off the needle. Fortunately, I rotated the hand wheel while watching the mechanism - and was able to catch this before any damage was done. NOTE 2: Singer has a PDF of the 457 machine on its website - you can use this to find all the oiling locations underneath, at the end, and on top of the machine. Finally, great advice about not putting gear grease or oil on the vertical/horizontal shaft gear teeth. I cleaned off all the grease/goop from prior users. NOTE 3: I ordered Singer Machine Oil to lubricate the machine, but it doesn't have a long thin tube to get to all the key locations. I used a bendable straw, cut one end to a point and poured a little oil down the straw. The pointed end allowed me to direct where the oil went. NOTE 4: I also ordered Singer "lubricant" in a 0.5 oz. tube which I thought was for the horizontal/vertical gears - BUT you specifically said those gears are not to be lubricated and that the gear lube was only for the worm gear. I used my straw to lubricate the base of the vertical shaft gear base where it meets the bushing. - Thank you Andy!!!
Thank you, Bill, and thanks for sharing all the good tips for working on and lubricating this model 457. Important Note: Yes, it is very critical that the needle bar is on the upstroke when setting the lower timing mark for the needlepoint to hook point timing. I covered this @ 1:46:30 in the video, as well as showing it in the close-up slide @ 1:47:39. It's good you bring attention to it like this and I'll pin your comment to the top in the hopes others will see your notes. Note 2: here is the link Bill mentions for downloading the free copy of the Instruction Manual from Singer; www.singer.com/search/support?title=457 The lubrication Instructions start on page 53 of the manual. Note 3: now that is a creative solution for pin-point accuracy when oiling. It's frustrating without some way to get the oil into the little ports b/c it seems more oil gets on the outside than on the inside parts. Nicely done. Note 4: Yes, yes, yes, greasing the worm gear is the way to go, that and oiling the base of the gear hub on the upright. Many other Singer Models have an exterior oil port for oiling the bushing under that gear, but on a dozen models similar to this 457 they did not provide a port. It's no surprise to me that those same models are notorious for top gear failure. Thanks for watching my channel, Bill, and sharing such a thoughtful and thorough comment. Take care. ✨
I'm totally impressed. I was told my sewing machine repair of replacing the hook gear would be over $400 - so I bought my same machine on ebay, which is not in great shape (buyer beware!). What's cool is that I have spent the whole day taking both machines apart to understand what was not happening on my old machine. I've spent hours and this video help! Now, dear Lord, I've got to put them back together! No repairs, but a good education and appreciation of how a sewing machine works!
$400? 👀 Yikes! If this video helped you at all then I'm very happy. And it is free to watch, too! Thanks for taking time (in the middle of all you are doing there) to comment on may channel. Good Luck.
Your comment sure made me feel happy this morning, Carol. That's the main reason for my channel; helping people who want to restore, repair, understand their vintage Singer. I imagine you found your work to be very rewarding and I hope you enjoy your machine for many years to come. Nicely done. Thank you for taking the time to leave such a kind comment. Take care in Romania. Romania!! Andy Tube is in Romania? Imagine that!
THANK YOU for your detailed instructions! A young friend purchased a 457 at a thrift store; it was really dirty and needed a needle plate; but the motor was running, so we thought it was ok. When we got it open we saw the failed gear. With your help and a pliers with a very long needle nose, and the grace of God, we got it up and running. Your meticulous video gave us all the information we needed and some extra. We even reset the needle height, which was a tad off. Such a satisfying project!
Your comment sure started my day off nicely. Of course, I love hearing about saving the machine. The 457 is such a worthy model, strong and versatile, and perfect for a home machine. Thank you for getting it back in service. Yes, a very satisfying project, and very rewarding to see/hear/feel it running again and sewing a project. If you ever have the desire to tinker with another one, I have 600 videos for working on Vintage Singer Sewing Machines (VSSM) On my playlist page I have playlists sorted by the model number if you scroll down a bit.: ruclips.net/channel/UCUSPDsHaFtRoz1VA2U1xJ4wplaylists Thanks again for saving the machine! 🙏
@@andytubesewing1953 Sir, I've used several of your videos. I've worked on a Singer 503, 401, a couple of later models, a Montgomery Ward model, and a Morse. I believe I'm well and truly hooked! The vintage machines are starting to follow me home....thanks again!
@@jreese8284 Wow, thanks for saving all those machines! Follow you home, hehe. I guess they know a good mechanic when they see one then. Lucky them. Take care.
Andy, I was astonished that I watched your entire 2hr video. But the detail, asides and diversions gave me confidence to tackle the job. Got the part from Singer UK, fitted it but could not set the timing because none of my keys would fit the hex screws. Then I had a thought, I bought the machine as a birthday present for my then fiance in 1973 and at that time we measured in inches. So I got a 3/32 hex key for about 20cents + postage and hey presto. Got the machine working in time for my wife to make face masks for the family and neighbours. Thanks a lot.
Oh, I love this! Thanks for sharing and if I gave out medals you'd get one for struggling through that extra long video! 🥇 thanks for saving the machine and take care.
I just went to sew with my sisters old machine and realized the bobbin was turning. Took it all apart to realize that gear was tripped then Googled and found your video. Thanks for the very thorough explanation.
Andy thank you so much for taking your precious time to fully and adequately demonstrate in great detail the replacement of the verticle shaft top gear. Next to you I am an amateur but this is my wife's singer model from high school and when she said tonight the needle wasn't picking up and looking at the motionless bobbin I luckily found this video. Now the machine will live for another 45 years, longer than I will be here. Much better than the computerize machines of today thanks to you. I have worked on Necchi, Kenmore, and old White Rotary from the 20's and if wasn't for the kindness of instructors like yourself, many fabulous sewing machines would have found their resting place in the landfills.
Guys like you and me make a good team, Frederick! I share the videos, and you put them to good use. Thanks for saving your wife's wonderful machine, and the others you have and may in the future. 🙏Take care. ✨
This video is fantastic! While using my Mom's 1969 high school graduation gift Singer Stylist 466 machine the timing slipped, the needle popped and I was at a standstill, and my Mom was heartbroken. Fearlessly, I opened it up to find the problem and saw the broken teeth. A quick google search found this video and Amazon had the part for $10. During the process of repairing, I found another broken top gear floating around inside(!!!), presumably from a previous repair by a shoddy shop worker. Thank you for your patience and expertise!
Wow, you really are a Princess! Nicely done, and thank you for saving Mom's machine. It sounds like you did a proper job compared to the previous person. Finding that old gear left inside really made me laugh! I glad you found my video and thanks for taking the time to share on my channel.
Thank you very much for your video and the two hours you spend showing me, how to repair my machine. I would NEVER have figured out, what was broken in my machine without you. My gear has completely disappeard. One day it worked and the other, the gear is gone.
You are welcome. Were you surprised that it happened so fast? It is shocking when that gear just crumbles to dust. I am glad you found the video and I wish to thank you for saving your machine. It can last many years now. Good Luck.
Thanks Andy. All your videos are first class. This group in particular allowed me to take a 457 and get it in top running condition by replacing the vertical shaft gear and timing belt and then setting the timing to run smooth as silk. It gets my vote for Oscar of instructional videos.
Thanks very much! I've never been nominated for an Oscar before, hehe. It's kind of you take the time to comment, and thank you for saving your machine and getting it back in service. Good to go for another 30 years. Take care.
I've been gifted a Singer 413 and with this video I've identified the worn part, ordered 2 for delivery and should have it all up and running for less than €10 and a wee bit of research. Many thanks from Ireland. Really appreciate the video series.
Nicely done, Charlotte! A wonderful gift you received and thank you for saving the machine and working to get it running. I know you will be successful and sewing along in no time. Thanks for the nice comment. BTW, Andy Tube being watched in the Emerald Isle? Better believe I'm loving that!!
OMG ANDY! Last night/this morning at 2:30 AM, I decided to take a quick look a my newly acquired Singer478. I searched RUclips for a video and it came up with a young guy who was on topic. HOWEVER, as I was half paying attention, the playlist changed to a kind voice gentleman saying "It's part #blah, blah". As I continued to work and listen, I tried the machine. Sounded awesome. Thread for takeoff. No bobbin thread coming up. Take out the bobbin and case, shuttle hook not working. Hmm. Open up the bottom and found pieces parts of a gear laying inside the bottom of my yucky project. Oh dear....scroll back to the blah blah part! EXACTLY!!! I find the link for the part, order it, and continue to play. Also hit SUBSCRIBE. Finally the sun came up. You have now been on my TV about 18 hrs. I love, love,love how you teach. I just heard you say someone complained how your videos are too long. He'll never learn. You are a treasure! When my part comes in, I'll be back. Until then, maybe I'll take "Pearl" up to the shower cause I now know how to do that. 😘
Thanks for the sub! I'm glad you found my channel. Thanks for rescuing that 478. A top of its line model from 1969 that cost about $1200.00 in today's dollars. Worth saving for sure. Pace yourself on these videos, OK? Don't burn out early there are 500+ of them👀 You can rehab the foot controllerruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKItPLWcK24FBoMdHK8vTXNi and speed up the old motor too! ruclips.net/video/rpTy_Bz3prA/видео.html You'll be having fun soon and thank you for watching my channel. Take Care.
I was unable to thread the bobbin on my old Singer 413. By watching several of your videos I found out it was the top gear that was broken. I ordered the part and managed to fix it yesterday with the help of my husband. I am a sewing novice, but feel I am now an accomplished sewing machine fixer!! Thank you for explaining it so clearly!!!
Congratulations on fixing your machine. That was a real accomplishment for a first-time "fixer" 😄 I'm glad you found the video and thanks you for saving that machine.
Thank you so much Andy - the local sewing machine shop did not see any sense in taking the time to fix my old 476 (manual says 477, plate says 476)- but thanks to you I was able to fix this machine myself ! I’m so happy to have saved this machine from facing the sewing machine graveyard. Greetings from Finland !🎉
Well done and thank you for saving that machine. As you can see, it certainly worth it. The shops don't want to do it because they want you to buy a new plastic machine, but your machines going to be running a lot longer than those new ones will last. I'm glad that you found my video and were determined to keep the machine. Your comment really lifted my day. Thank you 🙏
Thank you Andy. My grandmother taught me how to sew on this machine. She gave it to me in 2015 and passed away several weeks ago. This gear was broken and I was able to repair it thanks to you.
Thank you, my grandfather bought one of these from the horse sale and gave it to my mom as a wedding gift when she married my daddy. It’s been broke about 15 years now. I just called her this morning and asked her if she would like it running again. She was so happy to hear it could be fixed. Thank you again.
This is wonderful. I love hearing you will get the machine back in service for your Grandmother! I can only imagine everything she sewed on it over the years. Thanks for making my evening. Take care.
Thank you so much Andy for the wonderful step-by-step instruction to change the vertical shaft gear on Singer 457 sewing machine. It is the first time that I ever came so close to a sewing machine let alone repairing it ! I bought the vertical gear ( part number: 155819) from the local sewing machine repair centre and changed the gear within 30 minutes. This machine now works like a charm. My wife and I would like to thank you again for Krud Kutter Cleaner suggestion. It cleaned the sewing machine, the oven and the exhaust hood in the kitchen spotlessly. Your knowledge is amazing !
Thank you very much for your comment. I certainly loved reading it. I also thank you for saving that machine. The big sewing center in my city charges $175 to replace that gear 👀 Now you have some amazing knowledge of your own. COngratulations 🏆 We also have found many uses for the Krud Kutter Cleaner and I am happy for the day I found it on the shelf at the store. Your sewing machine is surprisingly strong and I'm happy to hear it is now working so well. Happy sewing and hope you have a good 2021.
I thank you Andy Tube from the bottom of my heart, my wife's machine had been gathering dust since 2012 when the gear on the vertical shaft was completely damaged, I took it to be repaired and the gave me an estimate of $450.00 and suggested I buy a portable, and I did. So, just last month I saw this video for the first time and your instructions were so clear I decided to give it a try.When I first opened the top, I saw the gear (black teeth) in pieces I was happy because I felt that with time I could install a new one, I ordered the part and because of the CoronaVirus 19 it took some time, but last week I installed the new one and my wife was so happy to use this machine again, it was a gift to her from one of my co-worker's wife, immediately after she found out my wife was a seamstress from El Salvador and she would use it properly, and she did ! I had to recover that machine, the new one I bought feels so flimsy to my wife....So, thank you Andy, you made this installation and the timing of the machine so easy to do...
Chuck, thanks for sharing your story; it really made my day. I glad you found the video and decided to give it a try. I'm thank YOU for saving that machine and putting it back into service. ✨ I know your wife is very happy. I appreciate that you took the time to share this on my channel. Take care.
Thanks so much for this video! I was emptying out my storage, and found this model 457 in what I thought was an empty sewing machine table. I plugged it in, and the motor turns, but nothing else. The top gear was in pieces, so I started with that. It took everything I had to get it out, and I finally had to use a punch (with a rag) to tap it free. I just ordered Krud Kutter, and I guess I'll have to take the rest of the machine apart to figure out why nothing moves, but I think that it's frozen because it must have been sitting for 40 years or so. (Someone gave it to me about 7 years ago). This is the first time I've worked on anything newer than a 1920 National Electric machine, lol. Everything looks upside down. I'm off to watch some more of your videos now. This machine is being gifted to a woman with 4 young girls who wants to start making at least some of their clothes, so you're videos are helping people in more ways than one!
It is very common for an old machine to be frozen. It is usually because of dried oil in the parts. Before I dismantle it I will oil it properly according to the manual (you can read and/or download it here: www.scribd.com/document/720859001/Singer-457-Sewing-Machine-Instruction-Manual) Often that is all it needs, a good oiling and some time to let it seep into the parts. If more is needed I will heat all those metal parts with a hairdryer. That can soften the dried oil and let fresh oil into the spaces. Thanks for helping a young mom. That machine is very nice for making clothing, strong & versatile. Good luck.
@@andytubesewing1953 Thanks again! It's all lubed up with Tri-flow, and I'll wait until morning to see whether I need to use the blow dryer or not. All I have to do now is get a brush to grease the worm gear, put the new belts on and clean the outside of the machine. Then I'll learn how to set the timing. Luckily, I was an auto mechanic before my spinal injury, so with your help, I'll get this "new" machine all figured out.
@@Jeaniewat for sure your mechanical experience will help with any machine that's very nice to have and I'm sure you'll get it running sweetly no worries
Thank you Andy for this video, my Singer 247 gear is replaced and everything is in time 😊I forgot to get grease and only had Tri-Flow oil so I can’t run it yet but so happy the job is done, it wasn’t easy but I actually enjoyed learning how this works, I’ve had this machine over 30 years and this is the only service it’s had besides me cleaning and oiling, the closest shop over 40 miles away told me when I called their guy wouldn’t replace these gears anymore because it’s to much trouble and considered my machine salvage 😮 just hurt my feelings and made me more determined to fix it myself, but without your guidance it probably would’ve been salvaged 😊Thanks again
BTW I just seen someone’s comment about not being able to get to the screw because no access, It wasn’t to difficult to take off the front dial (stitch length) and was how I was able to get to it.
When you came to that place in the road where it diverged into two, you chose the road less taken; the road to salvation for the machine. I'm very grateful you took the machine from salvage to salvation and gave it a new life. It's a beautiful thing you've done there and I wish you decades more of happy sewing.
Andy, thank you so much! I inherited a Singer Stylist 418 in non-working condition and it sat in my closet for a few years. I recently decided to troubleshoot it and found the problem...but had no idea how to get to the gear, let alone set the timing. I watched your video, then ordered the part for 6 bucks plus shipping, and with an hour's work I have a functioning machine! Feels great to bring some life back into this old machine.
Nicely done, Mike. I'm glad you found the video. Thanks for repairing that nice machine. There are about a dozen models with that gear problem, so if you're ever looking for something to do... I appreciate the nice comment. Take care.
Thanks for taking the time to do this video. I have never tried to replace anything on the inside of a machine. I found a Singer Stylist 457 for $8 at a collectables shop. I bought it for a good friend who needed a machine. I replaced the gear on the vertical shaft and now it works-thanks to you!!!!
You are a good friend, Lisa. Thanks for doing two good deeds. 1. Save a very nice sewing machine, and 2. Gifting your friend who was in need. 🙏✨🌟 I'm happy this evening knowing my video was part of it.
EXPLAINS EVERYTHING! Thank you!!! Hubby found this same machine in the TRASH a week ago, looks brand new~ I'm going through everything and the feed dogs move, but the bobbin thread wont catch; Looked inside and find in the corner, a crusty/cracked gear split into three parts. Because of your channel, I can watch how you repair it; Order parts I'll need, then repair it myself, save a GREAT working machine and get going on a quilt I'd promised. Again THANK YOU.
Fantastic, and thanks for saving the machine. 🙏It's such a nice model and based on the 347 which does have a steel gear. The 457 is an "updated" version but they went with a plastic gear. To be fair, the plastic gear lasted about 30 years in some cases. Poor model 457 machines have been tossed for years now after the gear started failing. Such a shame. When you see those nice steel pulleys and cogged timing belt it screams smooth power, but it comes down that vertical shaft from the dumb plastic gear. It is typical to find a 457K in good condition but it sounds like you found an extra clean one. No problem to sew quilts with it. If it fits under the presser foot it will probably sew it. A very nice metal machine that can be portable or mounted in a SInger Cabinet which many quilters prefer. I know you can replace that gear. Best of luck and happy quilting.
@@andytubesewing1953 3 years back I was gifted a Singer Stylist 7258. I've been teaching myself quilting and have made 7 quilts various sizes. The issue (although I love this Singer) is that it's has very little room to sew longer fabrics straight, esp. if you try a higher speed on it. The higher speed sends the fabric off course and misses nice/neat seams. As many of us know, it takes 2-3+ times longer to undo a bad seam. 2 weeks back, I'd mentioned for my birthday how much I'd LOVE to have a machine that could sew a tad faster and with less mistakes.... The Universe listened, and sitting on top of the trash where hubby works was this 457. She looks like she's been used maybe 1 month!? I said, "Are you serious!?" Then plugged her in; motor, light bulb, foot press all appear brand new! With the exception of the busted plastic gear and the 4 foot-pads about to crumble due to age, I think it's exactly what I'm looking for. SO, I did get the Vertical top gear, 1 motor belt, 1 Timing Belt, some Tri-flo oil & 4 new foot cushions.... I'll be up and running soon ~ SO EXCITED! Again, thanks much!
Andy, thanks very much for this video. I replaced the Top gear and reset the timing on a 457 machine for my wife. As someone who was worked on sewing machines in the past(40 Years ago) I think the video has great content with plenty of information for beginners and tips for those more advanced. it certainley reminded me of a few things I had forgotten.
Andy's videos are so detailed and helpful!!! I can't believe I took my entire sewing machine apart to replace this gear. I was nervous I wouldn't be able to time the rotary hook, but it works like brand new, and this will now be my "go to" zig zag machine since I love my big Brother PQ15000 straight stich for most every project.
I believe it!! Congratulations, Sue. 🏆⭐Thanks for saving that machine and getting it back in service. (I knew you could do it 😉) Thanks for the nice comment, and take care.
Thank you very much Andy Tube! I am so glad I found your video tutorial. After watching it I was able to fix and tune up an old Finesse 813 sewing machine. It started working again! My wife now is happily jumping because she can use this sewing machine. You are such a great person, some people know how to do things but keep it for themselves, thank you for sharing your profound knowledge! God bless you!
What are the "symptoms" of a broken top gear? What does the sewing machine do? or not do? I guess it took many years for Singer to figure out these top gears were "bad news"...they used them in so many models. I sure do appreciate having such a variety of videos to view. You have been a tremendous help to many people. Thanks!!
When the gear starts to break apart, often the teeth will chip off and the machine runs "rough" as the gear starts slipping. The hook to needle timing can get off and start having skipped stitches. The needle can strike the hook. The hook can stop turning all together. On some machines the feed dog will stop moving. During all this the needle bar will still go up and down and the take-up lever still functions. You don't see it, but the timing belt starts turning erratically or stops altogether. If you remove the bed plate (think oil pan) you often find pieces of the broken gear on the bottom of the machine. If the gear goes out slowly the symptoms seem intermittent. If the gear fails quickly (often the case) the hook just stops turning right in the middle of a seam. Most of the machnes this happens to are in the 40 to 50 YO range and kept sewing long after the company was sold. Thanks for watching my channel. Take care.
Andy, thanks for your help. Someone gifted me a Singer 413. I guess their relative that owned it didn't get it replaced. I just removed the gear and ordered part online. I will complete watching your video once I receive part. Very happy with your instructions.
Welcome. I'm glad you found the video. Thank you for saving that machine. I think you'll enjoy how well it sews with the new gear. Good luck and take care.
Oh wow, for days now, I’ve been trying to find a video for this exact gear replacement but for a 620. I’m not even sure how this one crossed my path but I thank God it did. You came through again Andy, thanks! This is definitely, by far, one of the the most challenging tasks I’ve come across. I will say the challenge is close to working and properly aligning the 7 metal cams on the 500. Lol
Hey, thanks for this. I don't work on the touch and sew models like the 620 so it's good to know this video can help with the gear of that model. I'll update the description. Thanks you, and check your email.👀
I watched this because it popped in on its own and I found it entertaining! I learned how from your videos to do everthing needed to fix and maintain my Singer 401. I don't have one of these. I just enjoy watching your explanations and I'm sorry but I laughed out loud when you dropped the gear. That's the sort of obstacle I have had to overcome.
I love it.💖 My wife only watches when she needs a good laugh, haha. I do not edit that stuff out b/c it happens and i want peole to see that even a fumble finger like me can fix a machine, so they can too. I'm happy the 401 videos were useful to you too. I have 500+ videos on my playlist page, sorted by model number or part name, like foot pedals, motors, buttonholer, etc. It's a lot of free entertaiment and you might be tempted to grab one of the models and restore it, even for charity. I can tell you the womens shelters love to get a working vintage Singer sewng machine as well as other charities too. Here is my playlist page: ruclips.net/channel/UCUSPDsHaFtRoz1VA2U1xJ4wplaylists?view_as=public Thanks so much for watching my channel, Tammy, and taking the time to comment. You gave me a very nice smile and chuckle ✨😂🚀
Just found this video and i was able to repair an old 478 for my daughter. I was in the process of completely tearing it apart!!! Thanks again for this sir!
Thank you Andy! I used you tutorial to change my top vertical gear and timing on my #478. I was able to follow perfect step by step. And during the slower parts of the video, I cleaned and oiled my machine. (Pretty sure that had NEVER been done). You saved me time, money, and headaches, for sure. Thank you!
Welcome! I'm glad you found the video and thanks for saving that machine. Ending my day om a nice note reading your comment, so thank you and take care.✨
On my machine, the face plate could not be removed until I took off the reverse button ( tiny screw in the side of button) then I had to remove the stitch control dial. I just carefully pried the dial off with a flat head screwdriver. Then the video shows how to remove the internal clips that secure the face plate
You are so knowledge about all these vintage sewing machines. You've done very well with your video work, and video editing too! You explain all the steps perfectly and with all the possible mishaps, tips, pictures, and possible tools one can use. Your explanation and demonstration make me confident that I can do this myself! I have the gear on order and am excited to get this fixed. I'll have your video on hand as I walk through it step by step with you again. I have already fixed the feed throw out system by watching your other video. I also now know how to correctly thread the machine, wind the bobbin, trouble shoot tensions and binding issues too due to your other videos. This thrift store diamond-in-the-rough will be a gem in no time, because of your guidance. Thank you so much for providing these informative videos for those who appreciate the well made vintage sewing machines!
Thank you very much, Shelley. Such a well-written and thoughtful comment. I am so glad you found my channel and have used the videos to save that machine! It is a gem and you recognize its value. With the repairs you have already made you will not have a problem replacing the gear. Easy does it and step-by-step. You already know how rewarding it is to work on the machine and just wait until you hear that smooth-running gear✨ Best comment in a long time and you made my Memorial Day much happier. Take Care.
@@andytubesewing1953 The gear replacement went SO smoothly! THANK YOU! I just have 2 questions. First the small hole to oil the bearing right next to the face plate is not on my machine. Is there another way to oil the bearing? Second, even though the timing and everything is working thread wise, the fabric isn't pulling through. Is there a way to adjust the feed dogs? or do you think they simply need to be replaced? When placing my hand on the needle plate they barely touch the surface, but when I removed them, they seem to have enough life left in the teeth. Any ideas? Thanks in advance :)
Just took my singer apart and found the wore out gear!!! I have all my screws stuck to masking tape with the part they need to go back into!!! Ive had mine for almost 30 years!!! Going nuts without it!!! Lol!! Thanks so much for your help!!!
The poor thing! I'm glad you found the video, Debbie. You'll be back sewing for another 30 years very soon. Thanks for the comment, and for watching my channel.
Andy, Thanks so much for posting this video. I was able to replace broken top gear after watching it and it is working like new once again. Trick you showed in another video to use magnetic stick to remove gear was spot on. Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much for making this video. I was given a 478 model that seemed to work.... except the top gear literally crumbled when I manually turned the belt after I got it home. Got the part changed, and oiled, and timed thanks to you. Oiling is a bit different on my model, but I found an old manual online that shows all the spots :-) again thank you so much. My machine lives thanks to you.
I have to do something special on my wife's Singer 247. This model is externally different. So, I decided to drill the frame in order to introduce a screw driver and I followed your instructions. Sure I had to be careful, cleaning the fine chips and finally I got a nice cap for it. So, if next time if I have to change again this gear, I have just to take out the cap. I would like to send you a photo of the results of my approach, but I didn't know how to do it. Have a nice day Sir, and thanks for your great video.
I'm glad the video was helpful to you, and thanks for saving your 247. That model we call a "flat-top" and Singers' solution to the broken gear involved almost a total disassembly of the parts; about a 13 step process each way. I have about a dozen pictures of the flattop models, and others, that viewers made holes or cut the metal frames for access to the gear. It's a clever solution. You are the first one to explain to me about using a cap for your access hole. Now that is a great idea and good for preventing dust, etc. from entering into the machine. A salute to you for that idea. Until now, no one has posted a video of what/how they solved their problem, so I encourage you to do that. A short video explaining how you went about it could help others with the same problem. You can post videos to your own RUclips channel. Here is Google's help page explaining how to do that if you've never tried: support.google.com/youtube/answer/57407?co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop&hl=en Here is a nice 4-minute video with 1.5 million views showing the step-by-step process: ruclips.net/video/VtF2AgFSLAw/видео.html Thanks for sharing your idea on my channel and take care.
Repaired a Singer L47 and 457 thanks to this video. For the UK people here, you'll need an IMPERIAL sized allan key set to loosen the timing bolt on the 457 (£4 from Halfords). For the L47 or 247, use a screwdriver bit held at 90 degrees with plyrs to get the old gear screw loose without complicated disassembly. As I had no luck finding 247 gears in the UK (457 are easy to find) I can also confirm the chinese seller on ebay with 247 gears are selling the correct size part, you just have to wait 2 weeks
Thanks Andy. I found my wife's machine wasn't working and it was this exact problem. I how have it stripped down awaiting a new gear. The hook plate was very stiff and I have now freed it off so hopefully when the new gear arrives I should have it running smoothly again. All the best, Mart in England.
Thanks for the video. Using it and the manual, I was able to replace the top gear and retime my wife's 628 yesterday with out too much trouble. I used a bamboo skewer to help remove the old and align the new gear. I also used a locking hemostat to hold and wiggle the old gear out of the case. Your warning about dropping the gear into the case was particularly helpful. Problem avoided.
Nicely done, Paul, and on a 628 Touch & Sew no less! Thanks for sharing the locking hemostat idea. That's brilliant! Congrats to Mrs. Buhler for finding a keeper to marry. 😉👍✨
I used Andy's warning about dropping the gear as well, but it was the only way to get the sucker OUT! Haha. I dropped it down near the motor and out the side panel. Worked perfect.
Hi Andy, in the midst of the pandemic, my wife has been making masks and scrub bags. In the middle of this the pinion stripped on her main 457. She is today back using it again thanks to your tutorial so you have played your part in the UK too! I couldn't get a Singer pinion and had to source from China. The pinions I got were slightly out of tolerance and the mesh was too tight- disaster! I ground a few thou off the bottom of the pinion and ground flat and it all works! I may replace with a genuine part when I can get one. Cheers from the UK!
Oh, nicely done, sir. Thanks for saving that machine! I have heard from people here in the US that a maker of that gear sells them with the metal base a little tall and others have had to grind them down a little. I would replace it when you can. They are cheap and not as hard to change as the vertical gear on the arm shaft so don't take a chance of harming that one. The 457K was made in the UK but I was still surprised at the number of comments and emails from "over the pond" when I started posting videos of the model. It's all good and I thank you for taking time to comment.
Replaced my top gear screw, a little tricky (had to use a pencil to lower it on) but I couldn't have done it without your excellent step by step guidance! Thank you!
Andy - super video. Second hand singer bought a while back. I thought it worked till I took apart to find the gear broken - yup, black! Ebay nylon gear bought and now fixed for a fraction of the cost of a new one and a couple of hours work. Many thanks!
Thank you So Very much for your informative videos!!!! After breaking two needles I figured out my sewing machine timing was off, but why?!?! Well after peeking in the top of my machine I saw lots of little teeth of what was my top gear-ugh! So the parts recently arrived, and I just finished putting my machine back together and its running perfectly! Thank you so much, I would not have figured out the fix without your guidance and I'm so happy to have my moms wonderful old machine running perfectly again!!!
Fantastic, Renee! I'm so glad you found the video and thank you for saving your machine. Mom picked a good one, didn't she, oh... and the machine too! Happy sewing.
Thanks Andy... Your video is very descriptive and exactly what I needed. Bought a 457 Zig-Zag Stylist for $20. Bobbin Mechanism was not moving, otherwise a very clean machine. As you said at the start of this video, the vertical gear was brittle and in many pieces inside the top case. Ordered the part today for $8....'A White ONE!!"...just to be safe. I've watched the entire video and plan to use it again are a tutorial as I replace the gear and time the machine. I cannot Thank You enough for posting your videos here on RUclips. Expect that now I will have a sewing machine that will work for a long time to come. Thanks again Andy :) Jim New York.
Very welcome, James. You can do it! For $28 you'll have a very capable machine, and the consensus seems to be the new gear will last in the range of 20 to 30 years. I glad you are saving the machine from being a boat anchor or landfill debris. I'm hoping many, many more people will find this video and know that there is a handful of models that can be restored to good use just by replacing the gear. It's kind of like our "Green New Life". Saving the machines and protecting the planet? Thanks for the great comment and good luck.
Your directions were great, I have the new gear in and adjusted the tenion. The tread coming out of the bobbin is still tight and looking for another video to correct. I purchased this machine from Salvation Army for 10.50 and I think is was a great fine once I get it working.
It was a great find. It's a very nice, versatile machine and now you replaced the only weak spot. It has a Class 66 Bobbin case that you can clean and adjust. Here is a video about it: ruclips.net/video/HT5XZ5eYYEQ/видео.html I have a playlist of videos for basic operation and some other minor adjustments and repairs in case you find other little problems once you use it regularly. Here is the list: ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKK9GeuGLCo6ZyWv-HbheRVK Good luck, and happy sewing.
Picked-up a 477 today at Salvation Army. It has the exact problem but working to get it corrected. Nice to have the reference of your video to help along with the repair - thanks for taking the time to post the information. I'm going to look around to see if these gears are available in metal ... maybe I can get my husband to machine them for me. :) Even with this repair I'd much prefer an older machine than the junk they sell now. These seemingly insignificant 2 plastic gears could be the smoking gun that took Singer down from their hay-day. How unfortunate.
Welcome. IMO, it was not plastic gears that caused the downfall of Singer, but the much cheaper machines from Japan and then Taiwan. As costs went up after WWll the price of an all-metal Singer was more than most people wanted to spend. My understanding is that Singer was sold to a Japanese investor around 1984. The plastic gears should last 25 years or more if not exposed to oil. You can download a 75-page pdf copy of the Original Singer Instruction Manual for Model 477 for free here: www.singer.com/sites/default/files/product_manual/01c62c901c15f3202fc3263cd76cd27c3bc2f688_0.pdf Since you will be working on your machine you may find a copy of the 5-page parts diagram with numbers to be helpful. It is free also at this link: parts.singerco.com/CPpartCharts/4_4999/477K.pdf Good Luck with the gears and thanks for watching my channel.
I took your advice and did the video on the Singer. I didn’t know whether you wanted me to put your link in there or not but, I referred to your video as being much more detailed. Check it out if you want. The software I used was new and easy to use but, not happy with voiceovers. I too ran into lighting issues and some sound issues and did this on my front porch. I still like your video more than mine. That timing is very tricky as lining everything up because I was still not sure how close the needle was to be near the hook point I believe you call it. I never worked on a sewing machine before and this was a nice challenge.
Any of my videos can be shared or linked, no worries. I'm glad you made the video, Rik. it is direct and to the point and covers the main steps of changing the gears ( ruclips.net/video/fYVqCjtdu6w/видео.html ) It is perfect for people with some mechanical/tool experience where my video if for the complete novice. Yes, lighting is always a hassle isn't it? The clear close-up pictures you added did the trick so we can pause on them and see what we need. I added a CARD to this video ( circled i in the top right corner of the video) that has a link to your video, added the video link in the description below the video, and I pinned your comment to the top here so others can see it. I know you just needed to get the gear changed so you could get on with your sewing project, so thanks for taking the time to share a video on RUclips. The more the better. Take Care.
amazing- thank you for all your added hints to make this repair successful . It is also nice to see that even the repair person drops screws. The repair keeps a good machine out of the landfill and into a new home for another 40 yrs. Demystified timing!
thanks for saving the machine. I appreciate your kind comment. Oh yes, I've dropped too many screws to count during these 500+ videos and put parts on wrong, etc. I only edit it out if I said a bad word, oops... I thought about making a blooper video, but 5 hours is just too long to watch! Thanks for watching my channel.
Thank you so very much! This helped me to save a perfectly good free machine which had the same gear broken (the darker type) but otherwise ran beautifully. It is a Singer model 247, but this video helped with the timing issue, also. I discovered what was wrong and was able to order two parts, which came to under $18, including shipping. I didn’t know how I was going to replace the gear until I found your video. I appreciate your effort and time in making this.
Thanks for the nice comment. I'll assume you saved a machine so that's for that. It's not easy if you've never worked on a machine like this, so a step-by-step is helpful. Folks who are more familiar just browse thru the chapters to get the point and then go for it. Hope you have a great 2020 and take care.
Just starting to sew by machine but fixing my Mom's Singer 636 seems to be its own project. The bobbin wasn't engaging so after some detective work I opened it up and gear pieces fell out. Getting some good insight from this video even though it's not the same model. Thanks so much!
I'm glad you found the video. Your 636 is a touch & sew and yep, has gear driven hook also. Terry has some manuals and guides on his website, factory and one's that he wrote himself. He is the guy I go to for T & S models. store.tandtrepair.com/tosew600se.html He has a 20% off coupon for Andy TUbe viewers through the end of 2021, The code is andy-h-yt. You can find a couple of videos on YuTUbe for T & S Gear replacement. Good luck, and thanks for the comment.
I am so happy that this video taught me how to fix my singer247. I changed the top shaft gear and then I fix the timing and turn out everything is so perfect. Thank you very much Andy.
@@snowandbooks Did you reply to Marianne? Hope she sees this. I wondered that same thing. Some models must remove the vertical shaft out the top after removing the main horizontal arm shaft. I DO NOT KNOW if that is the case with her 247. I've never worked on that model. One of the guides/manuals on Terry's website may have the answer and you could ask him. As an Andy Tube viewer, he'll give you 20% off anything you buy coupon andy-h-yt, site.tandtrepair.com/Fashion_Mate.html Good luck.
Thank you Thank you Thank you!! For all your videos. I would never have thought I would be able to do this! I wouldn't have without this video. But I was able to replace the top gear -- which as you said was totally disintegrating. Not only that but your videos explain how the machine works and why we have to be careful about replacing things in a certain way. All that teaching helped me identify problems and fix things on other sewing machines. I love your videos. Thank you!!
Your kind comment validates my hard work in making the videos. You are exactly the viewer I am hoping to reach. Someone who may not have ever done any work like this, but is interested and willing to learn. I'm so proud of you for replacing that gear. It's not an easy job, and parts of the work are tricky to do, but you did it! 🏆 So now it is me thanking you for saving that machine and getting it back in service. From working on it you see it is a well-designed and made model and with the new gear can keep sewing for at least a couple more decades! You made my evening with your comment, Karla, and today you are my favorite viewer. Oh, and thanks for fixing the other machines too! A regular machine mechanic you are now. ✨ Take care.
@@andytubesewing1953 I have to just say -- I also appreciate how you respond to everyone. It is so dignified and humane. We need more of that. I like fixing things, especially older things because sometimes they were better made and just a tweak here or there can keep them going. Newer machines with all their plastic, need I say more? And not having to throw yet one more thing on the trash pile, I feel like I am helping out just a bit. I will also tell you my mom took this machine to get fixed by a professional -- I saw that the belt was replaced and a bobbin holder -- but the guy never even found the gear and just declared it fixed, which course it wasn't. Andy to the rescue!! And one last thing -- after I changed the gear -- one of the belts wasn't moving -- well, guess what? There is an Andy video for that too. And I loosened it up and now the machine is actually sewing. Off to make a dress. So thanks again!!
@@karlasanchez9742 I'm doubling down on my pleasure reading these comments. It's viewers like you that help justify my making 550+ videos. I have heard so many stories about "professional" repair shops and people feeling ripped off. Now you know you can do the work on these machines, even better than the professional your mom went to. They may not have had any idea how to replace the gear, but why not tell her that upfront? Well, now she has her own family professional sewing machine repair tech. Happy sewing, and it's a good time to make a spring dress I think.
I can't hit the LIKE button often enough for this very excellent educational video!!!! As Chickanic says in her videos, you have saved me time, money and frustration. Just this last week the timing went out on our machine, needle hitting metal. Found the top gear fine on one side and the teeth kind of mushy like old rubber on the other. No way for the gear on the horizontal shaft to engage it. No need for me to speed up the video, I paused it several times to look at our machine. I find it odd that the screw on the left goes into a speed nut rather than have the body of the machine tapped like it is for all the others. Our machine is in a cabinet, seems I might need my wife to hold the vertical shaft pulley while I put on the top gear, it is her machine so she can help ;). Our 457 doesn't have the top oil hole and has a plastic pulley on the bottom of the shaft. Part on order from Amazon. Amazing that these 45+ year old machines are still repairable. Thank you so very much for making the EXACT video I needed!
Happy you found the video. I've never replaced the gear while the machine was in a cabinet. Teamwork should do it though. My wife has helped me several times and maintains her 301A & 403A machines. I know you guys will be fine and back to sewing quickly. Thanks for the great comment 🙏
Your fantastic! Thanks again. I did a 301 with you and it turned out great. Then found a 237 and a 457. Both are presenting me with new challenges. Your videos no doubt will help me figure them out.
Well, thank you very much. I'm happy you are rescuing all those machines. Fun, isn't it? Here is some breaking news, and you're the first to hear it if you'd like to "play along"; my next series is going to be a Singer "SPARTAN" 327K I picked up for $10 at a yard sale. The seller said it was so cheap b/c it's a Spartan, not a Singer, even though it says "The Singer Manufacturing Company, Made in Great Britain" on the back. A cute green color. Hope to see you there, and thanks for watching my channel.
I was gifted this machine a few days ago and almost parted it out because of the intimidation of changing the crumbled gear out, when I remembered doing this before after having watched your video. So I’ll order the gear and keep the machine. I’m still watching the video so I don’t remember if you recommend going ahead and getting a new belt while I’m at it? Thanks for this great video and helping me save this machine!
Still cog belts are very strong but if you see small cracking or wear, this is the perfect time to replace the belt because you have to take the old one off anyway
Thanks for your video -- I wouldn't have known where to begin replacing the gear without it. I just bought a 457 for $25... the plastic teeth on the gear crumbled on its 3rd use. It's in tip top shape now with a new gear and timing belt!
Thanks for saving that machine! 🙏A very familiar story with that gear, and I'm glad you found the video and took the time to repair it. This 1969 model cost about $1,600.00 today dollars so you certainly have a bargain there. It's really a strong, versatile machine and I hope you enjoy it for many decades now. Also, thanks for the Allen wrench info and I added it to the description below the video 👍 I appreciate you sharing your story, and take care.
Another fantastic video made by you! I always appreciate the detail, tips, how you name the parts, and how you describe the operation of the working mechanisms of the machines! Thank you once again!
Thank you so much Andy. Your video is superb, following your step by step approach enabled me to repair the broken Singer 413 to its former glory. Thank you again from a very grateful Brit.
I thought I was finished fixing my 457. But it wouldn't stitch more than 3 or 4 stitches before it would hang up. I checked the timing 12 ways to sunday. Couldn't find the problem. Until finally it just plain popped completely out of time.Noticed a problem with the pulleys and belt on the bottom. Spun that by hand, and it spun easily. Turned the machine back up. Spun the handwheel by hand, and watched the entire black gear disintegrate and fall off! Thank you for the video. I would have wasted a lot of time taking other things off to get to it.
@@susanayers2781 Andy explains in the video how to turn the gear to the most advantageous place. Use a long screwdriver to reach in there. If it's just because it is too tight... That's something you have to figure out. I would use a screwdriver that fits the slot in the screw as tightly as possible. Tap it a few times to make sure it is well seated in there. And if it is just too tight, put some vise grips on the shank of the screwdriver to use as a handle to turn the screwdriver with. Being very careful to keep the screwdriver well seated into the screw while you do so, so you don't strip out the head of the screw.
I'm so glad you found the video! With the new gear, a white one if you can find it, you'll be good for years to come. BTW, the black gear you found in the machine was not the original, so it had been replaced before. The first replacement I did was a black gear and my cousin brought it back months later with that gear in pieces. I was advised to use a white one and so far they are all still working; 2 to 7 years now. Thanks for the nice comment and good luck.
@@McGrawsome No worries, Margo. You can do it 👍 Thanks for saving the machine and putting it back in service. Oh, and thanks for watching my channel. ✨
@@McGrawsome You should be impressed; nicely done and I know you found it rewarding 🏆 Hmmm... $25 + $6 - $31 for a very nice versatile machine that is ready to go another 30 years on a new gear. I've heard shops charge as much as $300 for replacing that gear, so if you ever need a little extra income... just saying.
@@McGrawsome See? He was smart enough to marry you, so I know he recognizes your skills. Automobile motor work costs more than sewing machine work though. Just saying...
I have two Singer 413's that need new vertical top gears. Your video is excellent! I have not replaced them yet but I am confident that I can do it after watching your video...a few times! I will post my results when I have done the work.
Thank you. Maybe you could do a how-to video on your channel for the 413 model. There are thousands of them in need of a new gear and maybe more people could be reached about it. Best of luck to you, and thanks for saving those machines. Take Care.
@@andytubesewing1953 I successfully changed the top vertical gear on one of my 413'sand timed it! I will record the new gear installation on the other 413 and post the video. Thank you for your excellent instructions! Sherry
@@sherryiradi9231 That's great!! I know so many folks would love to see a how-to video for changing the gear on that model. When you post it if you give me a link I will git it a shout out on my channel. Good Luck.
This video is just what I needed, aside from a new gear. I recently acquired a 457 that has the exact same symptoms as the one you were looking at. From what I can see it looks like three teeth are gone from its top vertical shaft gear. Fortunately new gears are going for about $6 on eBay at the moment.
3 teeth now, 10 teeth soon. I'm glad you found the video. I still feel the white colored gear is of better quality. Watch for the seller to post "Color may Vary" and send you a black one. Get yours now before the tariffs go up, haha. You will be happy with that 457 after the new gear, A strong, versatile ZZ machine. Hope it goes well for you. Thanks for watching.
Andy Tube Hi Andy. Part arrived and absolutely nailed fitting it but unfortunately it appears to be too tight and the gears don’t work smoothly. Not sure if the part I ordered is just crap. Any suggestions where a trust worthy place is to order from? Thanks
Thank you for the video. I managed to replace the top gear of a Singer 466 I bought in Goodwill. It sews great after multiple tries doing the tension on the timing belt. The timing explanation was very thorough. I even saw another video of yours to take off the knobs and those metal clips. Thank you. The sewing machine has one other problem since I got it, it's stuck in reverse! The reverse button just hits some lever and doesn't spring back.
Turn the machine around to sew forward. That is an old joke :) The push-button reverse system is different than the lever reverse systems I've made videos of. Ther is a pin carrier and spring inside there. So some possible problems are spring broke, pin broke, carrier cracked and spring is loose. Congratulations on changing the gear. I think you can fix the feed problem and I can share parts and repair manuals with you if you email to andymanuals53@gmail.com. Be sure to put "manuals for model 466" in the subject line. Thanks for saving that machine, and for watching my channel.
I have been searching for days for this video. It is so helpful and going to save me $200 doing it myself. I just recently came across a Singer 247 with a C at the beginning of thr serial # which is really interesting from what I've read. Thank you so much I will be following for more awesome videos
I'm glad you found the video. One of 550+ videos on my channel. A few other viewers have commented on using the video to repair their models 242, 247, and 248 machines. You have a nide model their and with the new gear, you'll be sewing along for 30 years with normal cleaning and oiling. Best of luck and take care.
@@andytubesewing1953 thank you for the response ☺ I'm pretty excited about what I found lol with it being all metal I'm having a hard time getting to the set screw on the gear but all in all this video helped tremendously.
@@courtneystewart5637 You know, if the 247 is the model I think it is, a couple of viewers mentioned they bought a service manual for $9 download that helped them remove some other parts and gain access to the set screws: manualsoncd.com/product/singer-240-series-sewing-machine-service-manual/ I've never worked on any of the 240's so can't advise you. One guy also said he drilled a hole/holes in the backside to allow his screwdriver entry to the gear set screws. Hope it works out for you, Courtney. Good luck.
I watched this video because it popped up, I thought it was entertaining. I watched all the 401 videos, got mine running beautifully. Well, I am pretty glad I saw this, I'm now working on a Kenmore 1750 that belonged to my mother, guess I will refrain from getting oil or grease on it's one plastic gear!!!
I just don't put grease on a plastic gear UNLESS it interfaces with a metal gear, like the handwheel gear on your 401A or a plastic cmstack gear to the metal worm gear on the arm shaft. On those I use the TriFlow clear synthetic grease which is listed a "safe" for most plastics. Wait, Kenmore? What? Oh, it was free right? or you found it in a dumpster, right? Just kidding; Kenmore made some very nice, strong models over the years.
Back when I did this job on the 413 I set the machine on it's back, it was in the cabinet, and grabbed the gear with an extendable magnet, and then pulled the shaft down with one hand while removing the gear/magnet with the other. Worked out very well. The gear removal is different on the 413, that hole you used does not exist and you have to go through where the thread length lever is. Went back in with the magnet holding the gear the same way, really slick. Biggest problem I had was the screw was so tight I destroyed two Craftsman screwdrivers trying to get it to snap loose, finally had to go buy a German Wiha screw driver that was tough enough to get it out. I put it back in with the allen set screw after the screw driver dilemma. Picked up a beautiful 404 today for peanuts, looks and runs great. Only thing I could find wrong with it was they had the stop nut washer in upside down, so when you ran it, it backed off and went into bobbin winding mode. Another great video Andy, thank you.
@@andytubesewing1953 they are very good screw drivers, I haven't twisted a blade on one yet and have removed some very stubborn screws. My irwin impact bits aren't as tuff as they are
Andy, your videos are the very best, I was sewing last night with my 457 and it was running great but then no stitches, they I noticed that the bobbin wasn't turning any more, got up this morning and I've been following you video for the gear issue and yes, the gear is missing so many teeth (machine would sew for a bit and hit a place with missing teeth), I having trouble getting the little set screw to loosen. Thank you so much for all you do for all of us!!!!
A classic experience when the gear fails. I'm glad you found the video, Susan. Set screws can be difficult. Penetrating oil, heat from a hairdryer, tapping on the screwdriver while turning can help sometimes. I've been using a new (to me) tool called an IMPACT DRIVER that accepts screwdriver bits, 1/4" like I use, and you hold the driver into the screw and hit the other end. This causes a quick, hard, short twist and breaks free the set screw, or other screw. SOmething like this: www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-W2503-Impact-Extractor/dp/B00MXFFPVY
@@andytubesewing1953 Hi Andy, thank you so very much for the information, I'm not giving up yet, I know the machine sews beautiful stitches and I'm so happy I found you on RUclips a few years ago.
Hi Andy and selador11, I got the gear off of the machine about 10 minutes ago!!!! I found this very old, beat up Stanley Screw Driver (made in the USA) and I had used Krud Kutter during the day today and that screw driver is such a mess (probably used it to open paint cans over the years) it's the only one I hadn't tried. I am so HAPPY, just waiting for the new one to come in the mail. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, Sue
Thank you Andy for the very thorough and precise instruction for the repair and timing. I will be doing this exact procedure when the part comes in...could not of done it without your excellent video.
Thank you for this video; it was greatly appreciated! My Mother-in-Law just gave us her old, in-cabinet model (just like yours depicted) that was purchased back in the late 60s and after dusting, oiling, and inspecting, I found the horizontal tower shaft gear missing 180 degrees of teeth and the needle that was installed was bent. I assume the timing of the hook and needle shaft went out sometime before we had acquired it. Your video helped me understand a machine I've never worked on since I'm a visual and hands-on learner. Again, thank you.
Very welcome, and I think your correct about the timing. The moment that gear cracks or loses a tooth the timing is lost. I'm glad you found my video and thank you for saving the machine and getting it back in service. Nicely done and happy sewing.
Excellent video. Photography exceptionally well done to show needle timing and interaction with needle bar and bobbin .. this is a great teaching tool .. and your explanation was spot on in helping me understand what you are doing and why you are doing it .. super job
Thanks so much for your great explanation. I've a Singer 449 where I had to replace the top cog which was the easy part. The timing was the challenge but with your help I did it. Thanks again. Neville, Southampton, UK
Thank you for this video. I just replaced the gear on my 247. A little diferent but similar, no front face to take out and dificult to put the screw that hold the gear, but I did it. The rest the same, and also the timing. Your video really help!!!
Congratulations. I know from other viewers that the 242/247 models require some difficult workarounds to get the gear replaced. Thank you for your perseverance and for saving the machine from the dump. I'm glad the video was helpful.
Sam Guffey Andy, thank you so very much for your unending generosity. I need some help. I have two problems both on a Singer 2112. There is very little information on this machine. I am cleaning/lubricating a Singer Merritt 2112 to give to a minister’s wife at one of our Spanish speaking ministries. . At any rate in an attempt to access and clean the plastic cam stack and unstick and clean the metal gears on the horizontal shaft on the top of the machine, I unscrewed two screws and removed 2 flat metal bars If you’re looking at the top from the front of the machine, these bars are located Just to the left of the horizontal, flat, plastic “pattern selection” wheel. A fairly large flat circular spring/wire (7/8 “) seemed to come out from the screw that holds two different moving bars. The spring/wire as mentioned, is circular 7/8” and it has a wire like a finger 3/8” going straight down from the circle/ring shape and the finger has a slight crook to it. Above the circle/ ring shape, the wire bends and is approximately 1/4”. I only unscrewed two screws. I can’t figure out where this spring would have come from. Do you have any ideas? Secondly, I cannot figure where one flat washer goes. It has a tiny finger going down inside the circle of the washer. The washer reminds me somewhat of the metal washer that goes inside the tension control that you have a video of Singer 457. But the tiny finger goes down inside the circle whereas the washer in the video of 457 the finger goes up above the washer. Thank you. Alicia
Alicia, the 2112 model is about 20 to 30 years newer than the ones I work on. I've never even seen a 2112 in person. No one I contacted has a Service Manual for it and I was told it would be very difficult to find one. I can offer you a parts list and diagram that shows pop-out views of the parts assemblies. I've used these before to help me orientate where a part might go. If you care to email me at andytube53@gmail.com I'll be happy to send a copy to you. That's all I can offer, sorry, and good luck.
I appreciate your kind comment, thank you 🙏 I see this video now has 117K+ views and I'm happy to see so many folks keeping their machines in service. You can do it, Jill. You know where I am if needed.
@andytubesewing1953 I'm having problems with lowering the needle bar to that top line. I took the set screw out and the bar isn't dropping down at all.
I oiled the square nut thing on the needle bar, cleaned bar with Isopropyl, heated with hairdryer for 5 mins, and tapped it with screw driver and still nothing 😑 its very close to the line where it's supposed to be but it's a little off, should I just forget it?
@@andytubesewing1953 I think of myself as having a Depression Era mentality: If it’s worth saving, I’ll save it.🙂 These machines are a part of our history. If I could’ve saved all the organs people were pulling out of churches, I would’ve done that too. But alas, they were too heavy…😭
@@toonybrainfor sure the sewing machines are much more manageable and I only got in trouble when I had too many to hide behind the sofa and my wife noticed haha. Carry on then. Appreciate your hard work good luck
Thank you so very, very much for posting your videos. I've watched a few to trouble shoot the problem and now the gear is on order. Learned so much from your knowledgeable videos. BRAVO!
Awesome video! I don’t have the same model machine, but you showed me to look for access point to vertical shaft gear! I found it and now I know how to time my machine too! Thank you so much!
I ran into this problem with my Singer 247 and I really appreciate the video, thanks sew much, just made a little different where the top comes off without a front panel. I’m just not sure if I can do this 😊
I've heard from quite a few viewers who never been inside a machine sewing machine. Who said that they were able to do it? I had an email about 3 months ago from an 82-year-old who talked to her neighbor who teaches a shop class at the high school and he offered students extra credit. If they would take the project on two kids volunteered and over two class periods they changed it out. So where there's a will there's a way model. 247 is a nice sturdy machine and it's worth the effort. I hope you find a way. Thanks for watching my channel and good luck
Thank you, thank you, thank you! My wife's ancient Singer 247 finally bit the dust and after removing the cover I saw the shredded vertical top gear. The 247 looks similar to your 457, so I ordered a replacement part, and used your expert instructions to replace the gear and retime the machine. It's working great again! First time I ever worked on a sewing machine. It's really something to watch it run with the cover off. All those parts moving in perfect synchrony. How'd they design such an intricate mechanism 40 years ago without computers and CAD systems? The same way we got to the moon back then, I suppose. :)
Nicely Done, Keith! I'm happy the video helped you out. I agree it is amazing to work on the machines and see how intricate and well made they are and run. The oldest machine I did was a 1929 and I could not believe how well the shafts and bushings had been milled. Not to mention the hook made from of a single piece of steel. I think you enjoyed it. Keep your eye out for a nice 403A to restore. Direct drive interior motor and all steel gears. No belts! They are a lot of fun. Thanks for commenting and don't be a stranger.
Thanks Andy, after rewiring mine and new pedal etc, tried it and that gear just fell into pieces, got one coming tomorrow from Amazon so hopefully I can get it sorted
I'm sure you can do it. When finished you'll have a nice running machine with new wires and pedal, too. 👍 Good for another 20 - 30 years. Good luck, and thanks for watching my channel.
Wow nicely done Paul I'm glad you stuck with it. That machine is worth it and you're probably set for 30 years now. Nice that you found the video and thank you for your comment
It worked great for about a week but now the vertical drive shaft seized up. I took that out, cleaned it and oiled it. It’s back to working but now it won’t stay timed. I’ve timed it a couple times today, and it’ll work for a bit and then get out of wack. Any ideas?
Thank you very much for the concise guidance. I got an old Singer 449 in a cabinet reasonably inexpensive and have found your video helpful. Sheila (UK)
Happy to hear this. You are the first to comment about a 449 model so I appreciate the info. Hope all goes well and you love your new Singer. Thanks for watching my channel.
Love your tutorial on this. I have a Singer Model 360 Vintage 1975. It's pretty much like this one except taking the front or back cover off to replace the top gear on the vertical shaft, I still cannot get to the worn out bevel gear. It looks like I would need to unscrew everything from the top just to get to that gear. I am not going to do that, way too many things to unscrew just to get to that gear. I'm saddened because I've had that machine for 40 years and will have to throw it away and buy a new sewing machine because I am not able to get to that gear.
Too sad 😢 There are some models that you have to remove the top arm (and everything attached) to pull the gear and shaft out the top. I've never seen a 360 but I do have the parts diagram for it. It looks like all the covers can be removed, not just the top, but front, back, motor, etc. Now there could still me a metal frame inside that blocks you. That is how the model 353 is. If you'd like the parts diagrams just email andymanuals53@gmail.com and ask. No charge. I'll also say I have emails from folks who really wanted to keep a family machine like yours and they found ways to drill holes, or enlarge openings, usually in the back but also front under cover and could get the gear off the shaft then follow my video pulling just the shaft down. By using BBQ sticks, wires, pliers, hemostats they got the new gear into the machine. They admitted it was not easy, but they just were not going to follow the 12 to 15 step process of dismantling the whole top of the machine. If it is a gonner, don't throw it away but give to Goodwill. eBay sellers buy them and sell the parts off of them. Just the tension unit can fetch almost $20, let alone the covers, motor, wiring, etc. If you do look for a new one consider a nice vintage one a little older, 237,337,338,403A. No plastic gears but very strong models. You can find videos of them on my playlist page here: ruclips.net/channel/UCUSPDsHaFtRoz1VA2U1xJ4wplaylists?view_as=public Best of luck, Sharon.
I have one 359k singer will this gear fits on the machine looks very similar but I don't see number of my machine In your discretion list, confused so which one I should order? I always like to watch your RUclips video and now I became a sewing machine repair, I collected so many old machine and sold it to happy Customer that I have never thought that I would be able to fix these vintage sewing machine, but this is not the end I am still learning from you and you are my teacher ☺️ thank you so much for your fantastic hard working videos that you have gifted to all of us
Congratulations on owning such a rare machine! No, this gear won't work for you. I DO NOT have any records for model 359 to look up the part numbers. I don't think it was ever sold in the USA. Other nearby model numbers, like 353, 354, 360 have a shaft and gear combination that must be replaced from the top of the machine after removing the horizontal arm shaft. I DO NOT know if that is the case with your 359. Here is the part I mean: www.sewingpartsonline.com/arm-shaft-w-gear-singer-445491.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6JKeq_206wIVfT2tBh1AJAOEEAQYBiABEgKAxfD_BwE A repair like that is much more difficult than the one in my video. What is confusing to me is the pictures I found of the 359 model looks so much like the 327K model. Like twins of different colors. ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKKHFzTFVJrwVQT6hMfXxFHt If the 359 mechanics are similar to the 327 or like the 457 in the video then maybe the gear can come out the front like my video, but I have no experience with your model. You have to remove the gear and see the part number on it to know what replacement gear to use.
Thank you, Crystal that machine is certainly worthy of the effort and you'll be replacing the only weak spot so good to go for 20 years or so. Thanks for saving that machine and good luck😊
Absolutely agreed about the plastic that that gear was made of. Here's the thing... The plastic gear that it meshes with, does NOT deteriorate like that. I think this is an early example of planned obsolescence. They knew the difference in the plastics. And intentionally made this particular gear out of the sort of plastic that would deteriorate.
That may be true. There are a handfull of models from that 5 to 10 year period that have that gear, and they all have a breakage problem. It usually takes about 25 to 30 years before they broke, so if they planned that, they had sold the company before it happened.
@@freedragonfly Not sure of the "upper shaft pulley" meaning, but I'll ask what stitch length you have it set to? The direction of the fabric being pulled by the Feed Dog is controlled by the Feed Regulator, more commonly called the stitch length lever. The silver lever on the front of the upright. Once that lever is raised above zero it puts the machine into reverse, and the farther you raise it the longer the reverse stitch. Move the lever down to six (6) and see if that makes the fabric go towards the back of the machine.
@@andytubesewing1953 now that I have puttered more, I am working on a Singer 5040 that needed this top gear replaced on the verticle shaft. I found this video after I started (LOL) I had removed the pully and the feed dog cam from the shaft (?) so I wouldn't damage when pulling out the shaft (thump forhead) Anyways. I timed the machine and have the pully and the feed log cam in the "right" place because now it it sewing fine! Yay! Now it isn't feeding in reverse when I go to lock the stitch. ARGH! thank you so much in advance.
@@freedragonfly You lost me at 5040. That model was made 30 years or more after what I work on. I have hundreds of manuals, but none for that machine. The places I buy service manuals and parts lists do not carry them for the 5040/5050. Singer USA does still have free a copy of the instruction manual www.singer.com/search/support?title=5040 but that type of manual does not cover parts replacement or adjustments. No joy for you here. Sorry.😢
Suggestion: If your replacement gear is too tight, sand material off the metal base of the new gear until it runs smoothly.
Details: I got the cheap Chinese replacement gear (white plastic with a hex set screw). It was extremely tight and very notchy feeling when turning the hand wheel. It was binding so hard that the motor could not overcome the resistance. I compared the overall height of the new gear with the original gear. The new gear was too tall. I resolved the problem by sanding off the base of the metal gear housing until the old and new gears were the same overall height. (Thus adjusting the bevel gear engagement). I had to sand off quite a bit of material. I’m sure I didn’t get it exactly flat but I think the longitudinal loads are not significant.
Thank you, Paul. Somewhere in these 600+ comments is one similar to yours, but without the detail. I appreciate you sharing your experience on my video. I've pinned your comment to the top so other viewers will see it first, hopefully before they buy a gear, and know to watch out for that tall metal base. Thanks for saving your machine and take care.
I am having this exact same problem with the new gear that I bought. It is very tight and feels notchy when you turn the hand wheel, just like you said. The motor can't turn hard enough to actual get the gears to move. I appreciate you pinning this comment to the top and also thank you for telling us about your experience.
@@stealthyninja11 Welcome, and thanks again to Paul for sharing his experience. Apparently, another batch of "too tall" gears is being sold. I believe they are actually a different part number than 155819 and are made for a different model/models. The teeth and the base are separate part numbers and I think a factory is going by the teeth part number when selling to vendors on eBay and Amazon, etc. I've had another viewer email me that he had to use a grinder to lower the height of the metal base to match the original height of the old gear. The fix works b/c the teeth are the same as the old gear.
I had the same problem with the same cheap gear. I'm sending it back to get a better brand. Also, the cheap gear hex screw is much smaller than the original and I don't feel like it will tighten down as it should. I would prefer the flat screwdriver head. My advice, don't buy the cheap china gear.
I just finished fixing my mother's (singer 247 sewing machine) which my grandmother gave it to my mother 30 years ago and it means so much to my mother, I changed the vertical shaft gear and set the timing and it worked like magic.
I have never opened a sewing machine in my life I searched youtube for videos and I found this great video and followed it step by step.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing your knowledge. greetings from Jordan.
You are a very good son, Omar. I can just imagine how happy your mother is to have the machine working again. I'm glad you found my video and it is kind of you to leave this nice comment which gave me a big smile. 😀Thank you.
Andy, thank you so much for this video. You saved either my marraige or my life, because during the Virus Crisis my wife was going to strangle me if she didn't get her machine working. Got a used one for $40, and the top gear broke immediately. And I really appreciate your patient and in depth videos. I am an engineer my self, and I now appreciate more the beauty and elegance of these sophisticated and practical machines
Wow, I'm glad we were able to work together to save you! We need guys like you and marriages like yours. I am happy you found the video and thanks for taking the time to comment. I too applaud the design, engineering, and manufacturing peoples who made these wonderful machine. Slide rules and metal lathes in an age before computerized manufacturing. If you want a paying hobby, just advertise that you will replace those gears and you could be a busy guy, based on the dozens of emails and comment I get each week about them. I see the number of views on the video is appoaching 30K now. I never imagined that many but knew many people would be interested that have the dozen or so models with that weak gear. The machines themselves are good, strong, and versatile. With the new gear they can go a few more decades I think. Thanks again and be safe.
@@andytubesewing1953 Thanks to you, I've been able to restore a few machines. During this pandemic, I needed a new hobby. I found your channel, and have been happily restoring a couple of machines friends were going to send to the dump. I have ordered a few from Thrift Stores, since we are unable to go much of anywhere. Thank you for your video!
@@klcain518 You're welcome and I'm glad you did find the video. Thanks for saving those machines.👍 I hope you are finding it a rewarding hobby. I sure have! Thanks for taking the time to comment; you made my evening. Take care.
@@andytubesewing1953, yes I am finding this a very rewarding hobby. I'm going to have to find some in the dump, estate sales, or yard sales to rescue, once this is over. Right now I'm buying online, from thrift stores, which is rewarding. I am an engineer by training, so mechanically these aren't very complex machines and relatively easy to fix. Right now I hate fixing the computerized ones, and sometimes this isn't possible. This hobby, allows me to keep my mind learning new things. You made my evening as well answering my comment. My feline colleague loves your videos as well!
Andy - Great video! Really helpful tips, and great explanations. IMPORTANT NOTE: When setting the timing, it is critical that the needle is on the UPSTROKE when you are stopping at the timing mark. If you the needle is on the downstroke, and you go through the timing process, the needle will not raise in time and will hit the rotating bobbin mechanism --this will snap off the needle. Fortunately, I rotated the hand wheel while watching the mechanism - and was able to catch this before any damage was done. NOTE 2: Singer has a PDF of the 457 machine on its website - you can use this to find all the oiling locations underneath, at the end, and on top of the machine. Finally, great advice about not putting gear grease or oil on the vertical/horizontal shaft gear teeth. I cleaned off all the grease/goop from prior users. NOTE 3: I ordered Singer Machine Oil to lubricate the machine, but it doesn't have a long thin tube to get to all the key locations. I used a bendable straw, cut one end to a point and poured a little oil down the straw. The pointed end allowed me to direct where the oil went. NOTE 4: I also ordered Singer "lubricant" in a 0.5 oz. tube which I thought was for the horizontal/vertical gears - BUT you specifically said those gears are not to be lubricated and that the gear lube was only for the worm gear. I used my straw to lubricate the base of the vertical shaft gear base where it meets the bushing. - Thank you Andy!!!
Thank you, Bill, and thanks for sharing all the good tips for working on and lubricating this model 457. Important Note: Yes, it is very critical that the needle bar is on the upstroke when setting the lower timing mark for the needlepoint to hook point timing. I covered this @ 1:46:30 in the video, as well as showing it in the close-up slide @ 1:47:39. It's good you bring attention to it like this and I'll pin your comment to the top in the hopes others will see your notes. Note 2: here is the link Bill mentions for downloading the free copy of the Instruction Manual from Singer; www.singer.com/search/support?title=457 The lubrication Instructions start on page 53 of the manual. Note 3: now that is a creative solution for pin-point accuracy when oiling. It's frustrating without some way to get the oil into the little ports b/c it seems more oil gets on the outside than on the inside parts. Nicely done. Note 4: Yes, yes, yes, greasing the worm gear is the way to go, that and oiling the base of the gear hub on the upright. Many other Singer Models have an exterior oil port for oiling the bushing under that gear, but on a dozen models similar to this 457 they did not provide a port. It's no surprise to me that those same models are notorious for top gear failure. Thanks for watching my channel, Bill, and sharing such a thoughtful and thorough comment. Take care. ✨
I'm totally impressed. I was told my sewing machine repair of replacing the hook gear would be over $400 - so I bought my same machine on ebay, which is not in great shape (buyer beware!). What's cool is that I have spent the whole day taking both machines apart to understand what was not happening on my old machine. I've spent hours and this video help! Now, dear Lord, I've got to put them back together! No repairs, but a good education and appreciation of how a sewing machine works!
$400? 👀 Yikes! If this video helped you at all then I'm very happy. And it is free to watch, too! Thanks for taking time (in the middle of all you are doing there) to comment on may channel. Good Luck.
Watching your videos I completely restored my Singer 457. September 2019 Romania.
Your comment sure made me feel happy this morning, Carol. That's the main reason for my channel; helping people who want to restore, repair, understand their vintage Singer. I imagine you found your work to be very rewarding and I hope you enjoy your machine for many years to come. Nicely done. Thank you for taking the time to leave such a kind comment. Take care in Romania. Romania!! Andy Tube is in Romania? Imagine that!
THANK YOU for your detailed instructions! A young friend purchased a 457 at a thrift store; it was really dirty and needed a needle plate; but the motor was running, so we thought it was ok. When we got it open we saw the failed gear. With your help and a pliers with a very long needle nose, and the grace of God, we got it up and running. Your meticulous video gave us all the information we needed and some extra. We even reset the needle height, which was a tad off. Such a satisfying project!
Your comment sure started my day off nicely. Of course, I love hearing about saving the machine. The 457 is such a worthy model, strong and versatile, and perfect for a home machine. Thank you for getting it back in service. Yes, a very satisfying project, and very rewarding to see/hear/feel it running again and sewing a project. If you ever have the desire to tinker with another one, I have 600 videos for working on Vintage Singer Sewing Machines (VSSM) On my playlist page I have playlists sorted by the model number if you scroll down a bit.: ruclips.net/channel/UCUSPDsHaFtRoz1VA2U1xJ4wplaylists
Thanks again for saving the machine! 🙏
@@andytubesewing1953 Sir, I've used several of your videos. I've worked on a Singer 503, 401, a couple of later models, a Montgomery Ward model, and a Morse. I believe I'm well and truly hooked! The vintage machines are starting to follow me home....thanks again!
@@jreese8284 Wow, thanks for saving all those machines! Follow you home, hehe. I guess they know a good mechanic when they see one then. Lucky them. Take care.
Andy, I was astonished that I watched your entire 2hr video. But the detail, asides and diversions gave me confidence to tackle the job. Got the part from Singer UK, fitted it but could not set the timing because none of my keys would fit the hex screws. Then I had a thought, I bought the machine as a birthday present for my then fiance in 1973 and at that time we measured in inches. So I got a 3/32 hex key for about 20cents + postage and hey presto. Got the machine working in time for my wife to make face masks for the family and neighbours. Thanks a lot.
Oh, I love this! Thanks for sharing and if I gave out medals you'd get one for struggling through that extra long video! 🥇 thanks for saving the machine and take care.
I just went to sew with my sisters old machine and realized the bobbin was turning. Took it all apart to realize that gear was tripped then Googled and found your video. Thanks for the very thorough explanation.
Oh I'm glad you found the video then. And thanks for keeping the machine and service
Andy thank you so much for taking your precious time to fully and adequately demonstrate in great detail the replacement of the verticle shaft top gear. Next to you I am an amateur but this is my wife's singer model from high school and when she said tonight the needle wasn't picking up and looking at the motionless bobbin I luckily found this video. Now the machine will live for another 45 years, longer than I will be here. Much better than the computerize machines of today thanks to you. I have worked on Necchi, Kenmore, and old White Rotary from the 20's and if wasn't for the kindness of instructors like yourself, many fabulous sewing machines would have found their resting place in the landfills.
Guys like you and me make a good team, Frederick! I share the videos, and you put them to good use. Thanks for saving your wife's wonderful machine, and the others you have and may in the future. 🙏Take care. ✨
This video is fantastic! While using my Mom's 1969 high school graduation gift Singer Stylist 466 machine the timing slipped, the needle popped and I was at a standstill, and my Mom was heartbroken. Fearlessly, I opened it up to find the problem and saw the broken teeth. A quick google search found this video and Amazon had the part for $10. During the process of repairing, I found another broken top gear floating around inside(!!!), presumably from a previous repair by a shoddy shop worker. Thank you for your patience and expertise!
Wow, you really are a Princess! Nicely done, and thank you for saving Mom's machine. It sounds like you did a proper job compared to the previous person. Finding that old gear left inside really made me laugh! I glad you found my video and thanks for taking the time to share on my channel.
Thank you very much for your video and the two hours you spend showing me, how to repair my machine. I would NEVER have figured out, what was broken in my machine without you. My gear has completely disappeard. One day it worked and the other, the gear is gone.
You are welcome. Were you surprised that it happened so fast? It is shocking when that gear just crumbles to dust. I am glad you found the video and I wish to thank you for saving your machine. It can last many years now. Good Luck.
Thanks Andy. All your videos are first class. This group in particular allowed me to take a 457 and get it in top running condition by replacing the vertical shaft gear and timing belt and then setting the timing to run smooth as silk. It gets my vote for Oscar of instructional videos.
Thanks very much! I've never been nominated for an Oscar before, hehe. It's kind of you take the time to comment, and thank you for saving your machine and getting it back in service. Good to go for another 30 years. Take care.
I've been gifted a Singer 413 and with this video I've identified the worn part, ordered 2 for delivery and should have it all up and running for less than €10 and a wee bit of research. Many thanks from Ireland. Really appreciate the video series.
Nicely done, Charlotte! A wonderful gift you received and thank you for saving the machine and working to get it running. I know you will be successful and sewing along in no time. Thanks for the nice comment. BTW, Andy Tube being watched in the Emerald Isle? Better believe I'm loving that!!
OMG ANDY! Last night/this morning at 2:30 AM, I decided to take a quick look a my newly acquired Singer478. I searched RUclips for a video and it came up with a young guy who was on topic. HOWEVER, as I was half paying attention, the playlist changed to a kind voice gentleman saying "It's part #blah, blah". As I continued to work and listen, I tried the machine. Sounded awesome. Thread for takeoff. No bobbin thread coming up. Take out the bobbin and case, shuttle hook not working. Hmm. Open up the bottom and found pieces parts of a gear laying inside the bottom of my yucky project. Oh dear....scroll back to the blah blah part! EXACTLY!!! I find the link for the part, order it, and continue to play. Also hit SUBSCRIBE. Finally the sun came up. You have now been on my TV about 18 hrs. I love, love,love how you teach. I just heard you say someone complained how your videos are too long. He'll never learn. You are a treasure! When my part comes in, I'll be back. Until then, maybe I'll take "Pearl" up to the shower cause I now know how to do that. 😘
Thanks for the sub! I'm glad you found my channel. Thanks for rescuing that 478. A top of its line model from 1969 that cost about $1200.00 in today's dollars. Worth saving for sure. Pace yourself on these videos, OK? Don't burn out early there are 500+ of them👀
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You'll be having fun soon and thank you for watching my channel. Take Care.
I was unable to thread the bobbin on my old Singer 413. By watching several of your videos I found out it was the top gear that was broken. I ordered the part and managed to fix it yesterday with the help of my husband. I am a sewing novice, but feel I am now an accomplished sewing machine fixer!! Thank you for explaining it so clearly!!!
Congratulations on fixing your machine. That was a real accomplishment for a first-time "fixer" 😄 I'm glad you found the video and thanks you for saving that machine.
Thank you so much Andy - the local sewing machine shop did not see any sense in taking the time to fix my old 476 (manual says 477, plate says 476)- but thanks to you I was able to fix this machine myself ! I’m so happy to have saved this machine from facing the sewing machine graveyard. Greetings from Finland !🎉
Well done and thank you for saving that machine. As you can see, it certainly worth it. The shops don't want to do it because they want you to buy a new plastic machine, but your machines going to be running a lot longer than those new ones will last. I'm glad that you found my video and were determined to keep the machine. Your comment really lifted my day. Thank you 🙏
Thank you Andy. My grandmother taught me how to sew on this machine. She gave it to me in 2015 and passed away several weeks ago. This gear was broken and I was able to repair it thanks to you.
Nicely done, Nathaniel! It's a wonderful heirloom to have. Take Care.
Thank you, my grandfather bought one of these from the horse sale and gave it to my mom as a wedding gift when she married my daddy. It’s been broke about 15 years now. I just called her this morning and asked her if she would like it running again. She was so happy to hear it could be fixed. Thank you again.
This is wonderful. I love hearing you will get the machine back in service for your Grandmother! I can only imagine everything she sewed on it over the years. Thanks for making my evening. Take care.
Thank you so much Andy for the wonderful step-by-step instruction to change the vertical shaft gear on Singer 457 sewing machine. It is the first time that I ever came so close to a sewing machine let alone repairing it ! I bought the vertical gear ( part number: 155819) from the local sewing machine repair centre and changed the gear within 30 minutes. This machine now works like a charm. My wife and I would like to thank you again for Krud Kutter Cleaner suggestion. It cleaned the sewing machine, the oven and the exhaust hood in the kitchen spotlessly. Your knowledge is amazing !
Thank you very much for your comment. I certainly loved reading it. I also thank you for saving that machine. The big sewing center in my city charges $175 to replace that gear 👀 Now you have some amazing knowledge of your own. COngratulations 🏆 We also have found many uses for the Krud Kutter Cleaner and I am happy for the day I found it on the shelf at the store. Your sewing machine is surprisingly strong and I'm happy to hear it is now working so well. Happy sewing and hope you have a good 2021.
I thank you Andy Tube from the bottom of my heart, my wife's machine had been gathering dust since 2012 when the gear on the vertical shaft was completely damaged, I took it to be repaired and the gave me an estimate of $450.00 and suggested I buy a portable, and I did. So, just last month I saw this video for the first time and your instructions were so clear I decided to give it a try.When I first opened the top, I saw the gear (black teeth) in pieces I was happy because I felt that with time I could install a new one, I ordered the part and because of the CoronaVirus 19 it took some time, but last week I installed the new one and my wife was so happy to use this machine again, it was a gift to her from one of my co-worker's wife, immediately after she found out my wife was a seamstress from El Salvador and she would use it properly, and she did ! I had to recover that machine, the new one I bought feels so flimsy to my wife....So, thank you Andy, you made this installation and the timing of the machine so easy to do...
Chuck, thanks for sharing your story; it really made my day. I glad you found the video and decided to give it a try. I'm thank YOU for saving that machine and putting it back into service. ✨ I know your wife is very happy. I appreciate that you took the time to share this on my channel. Take care.
Thanks so much for this video! I was emptying out my storage, and found this model 457 in what I thought was an empty sewing machine table. I plugged it in, and the motor turns, but nothing else. The top gear was in pieces, so I started with that. It took everything I had to get it out, and I finally had to use a punch (with a rag) to tap it free.
I just ordered Krud Kutter, and I guess I'll have to take the rest of the machine apart to figure out why nothing moves, but I think that it's frozen because it must have been sitting for 40 years or so. (Someone gave it to me about 7 years ago).
This is the first time I've worked on anything newer than a 1920 National Electric machine, lol. Everything looks upside down. I'm off to watch some more of your videos now. This machine is being gifted to a woman with 4 young girls who wants to start making at least some of their clothes, so you're videos are helping people in more ways than one!
It is very common for an old machine to be frozen. It is usually because of dried oil in the parts. Before I dismantle it I will oil it properly according to the manual (you can read and/or download it here: www.scribd.com/document/720859001/Singer-457-Sewing-Machine-Instruction-Manual) Often that is all it needs, a good oiling and some time to let it seep into the parts. If more is needed I will heat all those metal parts with a hairdryer. That can soften the dried oil and let fresh oil into the spaces. Thanks for helping a young mom. That machine is very nice for making clothing, strong & versatile. Good luck.
@@andytubesewing1953 Thanks again! It's all lubed up with Tri-flow, and I'll wait until morning to see whether I need to use the blow dryer or not. All I have to do now is get a brush to grease the worm gear, put the new belts on and clean the outside of the machine. Then I'll learn how to set the timing. Luckily, I was an auto mechanic before my spinal injury, so with your help, I'll get this "new" machine all figured out.
@@Jeaniewat for sure your mechanical experience will help with any machine that's very nice to have and I'm sure you'll get it running sweetly no worries
Thank you Andy for this video, my Singer 247 gear is replaced and everything is in time 😊I forgot to get grease and only had Tri-Flow oil so I can’t run it yet but so happy the job is done, it wasn’t easy but I actually enjoyed learning how this works, I’ve had this machine over 30 years and this is the only service it’s had besides me cleaning and oiling, the closest shop over 40 miles away told me when I called their guy wouldn’t replace these gears anymore because it’s to much trouble and considered my machine salvage 😮 just hurt my feelings and made me more determined to fix it myself, but without your guidance it probably would’ve been salvaged 😊Thanks again
BTW I just seen someone’s comment about not being able to get to the screw because no access, It wasn’t to difficult to take off the front dial (stitch length) and was how I was able to get to it.
When you came to that place in the road where it diverged into two, you chose the road less taken; the road to salvation for the machine. I'm very grateful you took the machine from salvage to salvation and gave it a new life. It's a beautiful thing you've done there and I wish you decades more of happy sewing.
Andy, thank you so much! I inherited a Singer Stylist 418 in non-working condition and it sat in my closet for a few years. I recently decided to troubleshoot it and found the problem...but had no idea how to get to the gear, let alone set the timing. I watched your video, then ordered the part for 6 bucks plus shipping, and with an hour's work I have a functioning machine! Feels great to bring some life back into this old machine.
Nicely done, Mike. I'm glad you found the video. Thanks for repairing that nice machine. There are about a dozen models with that gear problem, so if you're ever looking for something to do... I appreciate the nice comment. Take care.
Thanks for taking the time to do this video. I have never tried to replace anything on the inside of a machine. I found a Singer Stylist 457 for $8 at a collectables shop. I bought it for a good friend who needed a machine. I replaced the gear on the vertical shaft and now it works-thanks to you!!!!
You are a good friend, Lisa. Thanks for doing two good deeds. 1. Save a very nice sewing machine, and 2. Gifting your friend who was in need. 🙏✨🌟 I'm happy this evening knowing my video was part of it.
EXPLAINS EVERYTHING! Thank you!!!
Hubby found this same machine in the TRASH a week ago, looks brand new~ I'm going through everything and the feed dogs move, but the bobbin thread wont catch; Looked inside and find in the corner, a crusty/cracked gear split into three parts.
Because of your channel, I can watch how you repair it; Order parts I'll need, then repair it myself, save a GREAT working machine and get going on a quilt I'd promised. Again THANK YOU.
Fantastic, and thanks for saving the machine. 🙏It's such a nice model and based on the 347 which does have a steel gear. The 457 is an "updated" version but they went with a plastic gear. To be fair, the plastic gear lasted about 30 years in some cases. Poor model 457 machines have been tossed for years now after the gear started failing. Such a shame. When you see those nice steel pulleys and cogged timing belt it screams smooth power, but it comes down that vertical shaft from the dumb plastic gear. It is typical to find a 457K in good condition but it sounds like you found an extra clean one. No problem to sew quilts with it. If it fits under the presser foot it will probably sew it. A very nice metal machine that can be portable or mounted in a SInger Cabinet which many quilters prefer. I know you can replace that gear. Best of luck and happy quilting.
@@andytubesewing1953 3 years back I was gifted a Singer Stylist 7258. I've been teaching myself quilting and have made 7 quilts various sizes. The issue (although I love this Singer) is that it's has very little room to sew longer fabrics straight, esp. if you try a higher speed on it. The higher speed sends the fabric off course and misses nice/neat seams. As many of us know, it takes 2-3+ times longer to undo a bad seam. 2 weeks back, I'd mentioned for my birthday how much I'd LOVE to have a machine that could sew a tad faster and with less mistakes.... The Universe listened, and sitting on top of the trash where hubby works was this 457. She looks like she's been used maybe 1 month!? I said, "Are you serious!?" Then plugged her in; motor, light bulb, foot press all appear brand new! With the exception of the busted plastic gear and the 4 foot-pads about to crumble due to age, I think it's exactly what I'm looking for. SO, I did get the Vertical top gear, 1 motor belt, 1 Timing Belt, some Tri-flo oil & 4 new foot cushions.... I'll be up and running soon ~ SO EXCITED! Again, thanks much!
@@djstarrjunkie Wow, you are all set. 👍Fabulous. Best of luck going forward then.
Andy, thanks very much for this video. I replaced the Top gear and reset the timing on a 457 machine for my wife. As someone who was worked on sewing machines in the past(40 Years ago) I think the video has great content with plenty of information for beginners and tips for those more advanced. it certainley reminded me of a few things I had forgotten.
You made my day with this comment, Keith! I appreciate you taking the time to leave it. I also thank you for saving that machine 🙏✨
Happy New Year
Andy's videos are so detailed and helpful!!! I can't believe I took my entire sewing machine apart to replace this gear. I was nervous I wouldn't be able to time the rotary hook, but it works like brand new, and this will now be my "go to" zig zag machine since I love my big Brother PQ15000 straight stich for most every project.
I believe it!! Congratulations, Sue. 🏆⭐Thanks for saving that machine and getting it back in service. (I knew you could do it 😉)
Thanks for the nice comment, and take care.
Thank you very much Andy Tube! I am so glad I found your video tutorial. After watching it I was able to fix and tune up an old Finesse 813 sewing machine. It started working again! My wife now is happily jumping because she can use this sewing machine. You are such a great person, some people know how to do things but keep it for themselves, thank you for sharing your profound knowledge! God bless you!
Congratulations! Your wife picked a good man 😊 I very happy my video was helpful. Thanks for a very nice comment. 🙏
@@andytubesewing1953 That's true, she did and I did :-) Your video is a great help for those looking to fix these machines at home. Thanks!
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What are the "symptoms" of a broken top gear? What does the sewing machine do? or not do? I guess it took many years for Singer to figure out these top gears were "bad news"...they used them in so many models.
I sure do appreciate having such a variety of videos to view. You have been a tremendous help to many people. Thanks!!
When the gear starts to break apart, often the teeth will chip off and the machine runs "rough" as the gear starts slipping. The hook to needle timing can get off and start having skipped stitches. The needle can strike the hook. The hook can stop turning all together. On some machines the feed dog will stop moving. During all this the needle bar will still go up and down and the take-up lever still functions. You don't see it, but the timing belt starts turning erratically or stops altogether. If you remove the bed plate (think oil pan) you often find pieces of the broken gear on the bottom of the machine. If the gear goes out slowly the symptoms seem intermittent. If the gear fails quickly (often the case) the hook just stops turning right in the middle of a seam. Most of the machnes this happens to are in the 40 to 50 YO range and kept sewing long after the company was sold. Thanks for watching my channel. Take care.
Andy, thanks for your help. Someone gifted me a Singer 413. I guess their relative that owned it didn't get it replaced. I just removed the gear and ordered part online. I will complete watching your video once I receive part. Very happy with your instructions.
Welcome. I'm glad you found the video. Thank you for saving that machine. I think you'll enjoy how well it sews with the new gear. Good luck and take care.
Oh wow, for days now, I’ve been trying to find a video for this exact gear replacement but for a 620. I’m not even sure how this one crossed my path but I thank God it did. You came through again Andy, thanks! This is definitely, by far, one of the the most challenging tasks I’ve come across. I will say the challenge is close to working and properly aligning the 7 metal cams on the 500. Lol
Hey, thanks for this. I don't work on the touch and sew models like the 620 so it's good to know this video can help with the gear of that model. I'll update the description. Thanks you, and check your email.👀
I watched this because it popped in on its own and I found it entertaining! I learned how from your videos to do everthing needed to fix and maintain my Singer 401. I don't have one of these. I just enjoy watching your explanations and I'm sorry but I laughed out loud when you dropped the gear. That's the sort of obstacle I have had to overcome.
I love it.💖 My wife only watches when she needs a good laugh, haha. I do not edit that stuff out b/c it happens and i want peole to see that even a fumble finger like me can fix a machine, so they can too. I'm happy the 401 videos were useful to you too. I have 500+ videos on my playlist page, sorted by model number or part name, like foot pedals, motors, buttonholer, etc. It's a lot of free entertaiment and you might be tempted to grab one of the models and restore it, even for charity. I can tell you the womens shelters love to get a working vintage Singer sewng machine as well as other charities too. Here is my playlist page: ruclips.net/channel/UCUSPDsHaFtRoz1VA2U1xJ4wplaylists?view_as=public Thanks so much for watching my channel, Tammy, and taking the time to comment. You gave me a very nice smile and chuckle ✨😂🚀
Just found this video and i was able to repair an old 478 for my daughter. I was in the process of completely tearing it apart!!! Thanks again for this sir!
Whew! I'm glad you found the video! Nicely done, sir, and thanks for saving that machine!
Thank you Andy! I used you tutorial to change my top vertical gear and timing on my #478. I was able to follow perfect step by step. And during the slower parts of the video, I cleaned and oiled my machine. (Pretty sure that had NEVER been done). You saved me time, money, and headaches, for sure. Thank you!
Welcome! I'm glad you found the video and thanks for saving that machine. Ending my day om a nice note reading your comment, so thank you and take care.✨
On my machine, the face plate could not be removed until I took off the reverse button ( tiny screw in the side of button) then I had to remove the stitch control dial. I just carefully pried the dial off with a flat head screwdriver. Then the video shows how to remove the internal clips that secure the face plate
I was able to replace all but 1of the metal clips on my machine. It has suffered no I'll effects from it.
Best of luck.
You are so knowledge about all these vintage sewing machines. You've done very well with your video work, and video editing too! You explain all the steps perfectly and with all the possible mishaps, tips, pictures, and possible tools one can use. Your explanation and demonstration make me confident that I can do this myself! I have the gear on order and am excited to get this fixed. I'll have your video on hand as I walk through it step by step with you again.
I have already fixed the feed throw out system by watching your other video. I also now know how to correctly thread the machine, wind the bobbin, trouble shoot tensions and binding issues too due to your other videos.
This thrift store diamond-in-the-rough will be a gem in no time, because of your guidance. Thank you so much for providing these informative videos for those who appreciate the well made vintage sewing machines!
Thank you very much, Shelley. Such a well-written and thoughtful comment. I am so glad you found my channel and have used the videos to save that machine! It is a gem and you recognize its value. With the repairs you have already made you will not have a problem replacing the gear. Easy does it and step-by-step. You already know how rewarding it is to work on the machine and just wait until you hear that smooth-running gear✨ Best comment in a long time and you made my Memorial Day much happier. Take Care.
@@andytubesewing1953 The gear replacement went SO smoothly! THANK YOU!
I just have 2 questions. First the small hole to oil the bearing right next to the face plate is not on my machine. Is there another way to oil the bearing?
Second, even though the timing and everything is working thread wise, the fabric isn't pulling through. Is there a way to adjust the feed dogs? or do you think they simply need to be replaced? When placing my hand on the needle plate they barely touch the surface, but when I removed them, they seem to have enough life left in the teeth. Any ideas? Thanks in advance :)
I just looked in my manual that I bought and found out how to adjust the feed dog height. So simple sorry for bothering you about that.
Just took my singer apart and found the wore out gear!!! I have all my screws stuck to masking tape with the part they need to go back into!!! Ive had mine for almost 30 years!!! Going nuts without it!!! Lol!! Thanks so much for your help!!!
The poor thing! I'm glad you found the video, Debbie. You'll be back sewing for another 30 years very soon. Thanks for the comment, and for watching my channel.
Andy, Thanks so much for posting this video. I was able to replace broken top gear after watching it and it is working like new once again. Trick you showed in another video to use magnetic stick to remove gear was spot on. Thanks a lot.
I'm glad the video was helpful to you and I want to thank you for saving that nice machine. Happy sewing!
Thank you so much for making this video. I was given a 478 model that seemed to work.... except the top gear literally crumbled when I manually turned the belt after I got it home. Got the part changed, and oiled, and timed thanks to you. Oiling is a bit different on my model, but I found an old manual online that shows all the spots :-) again thank you so much. My machine lives thanks to you.
You are welcome, but thanks to you for being willing to get your hands dirty and fix that machine, saving it from the landfill. Nicely done, Rebekah 👍
I have to do something special on my wife's Singer 247. This model is externally different. So, I decided to drill the frame in order to introduce a screw driver and I followed your instructions. Sure I had to be careful, cleaning the fine chips and finally I got a nice cap for it. So, if next time if I have to change again this gear, I have just to take out the cap. I would like to send you a photo of the results of my approach, but I didn't know how to do it.
Have a nice day Sir, and thanks for your great video.
I'm glad the video was helpful to you, and thanks for saving your 247. That model we call a "flat-top" and Singers' solution to the broken gear involved almost a total disassembly of the parts; about a 13 step process each way. I have about a dozen pictures of the flattop models, and others, that viewers made holes or cut the metal frames for access to the gear. It's a clever solution. You are the first one to explain to me about using a cap for your access hole. Now that is a great idea and good for preventing dust, etc. from entering into the machine. A salute to you for that idea. Until now, no one has posted a video of what/how they solved their problem, so I encourage you to do that. A short video explaining how you went about it could help others with the same problem. You can post videos to your own RUclips channel. Here is Google's help page explaining how to do that if you've never tried: support.google.com/youtube/answer/57407?co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop&hl=en Here is a nice 4-minute video with 1.5 million views showing the step-by-step process: ruclips.net/video/VtF2AgFSLAw/видео.html Thanks for sharing your idea on my channel and take care.
Repaired a Singer L47 and 457 thanks to this video. For the UK people here, you'll need an IMPERIAL sized allan key set to loosen the timing bolt on the 457 (£4 from Halfords). For the L47 or 247, use a screwdriver bit held at 90 degrees with plyrs to get the old gear screw loose without complicated disassembly. As I had no luck finding 247 gears in the UK (457 are easy to find) I can also confirm the chinese seller on ebay with 247 gears are selling the correct size part, you just have to wait 2 weeks
Thank you for sharing this info. I will pin your comment to the top for others to see.
Thank you for show the whole process in step-by-step detail. It is extremely helpful for doing this repair on this model.
You are welcome but let me thank you for saving that machine. I'm glad the video helped with that and thanks for the nice comment.
Thank you Andy!!! Got gifted a Singer and the gear had gone! Nearly gave up on it but watched the video and changed it!!! Keep up the amazing work!
Hey, nicely done, Thalia! 👍 I'm glad you found the video and thank you for saving that machine. 🙏 Happy sewing.
Thanks so much! I replaced the vertical top shaft gear on my 1969 Singer using your video. Couldn't have done it without you!
Oh, Nicely Done, Kathy! How rewarding to repair your own machine! I'm glad you found the video and thank you for saving that machine. Take Care ✨
Thanks Andy. I found my wife's machine wasn't working and it was this exact problem. I how have it stripped down awaiting a new gear. The hook plate was very stiff and I have now freed it off so hopefully when the new gear arrives I should have it running smoothly again. All the best, Mart in England.
Nicely done, Mart. Thanks for saving the machine and I appreciate your comment.
Thanks for the video. Using it and the manual, I was able to replace the top gear and retime my wife's 628 yesterday with out too much trouble. I used a bamboo skewer to help remove the old and align the new gear. I also used a locking hemostat to hold and wiggle the old gear out of the case. Your warning about dropping the gear into the case was particularly helpful. Problem avoided.
Nicely done, Paul, and on a 628 Touch & Sew no less! Thanks for sharing the locking hemostat idea. That's brilliant! Congrats to Mrs. Buhler for finding a keeper to marry.
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Andy Tube smiles. I think I'm the lucky one. A happy wife is a joy for all.
I used Andy's warning about dropping the gear as well, but it was the only way to get the sucker OUT! Haha. I dropped it down near the motor and out the side panel. Worked perfect.
Hi Andy, in the midst of the pandemic, my wife has been making masks and scrub bags. In the middle of this the pinion stripped on her main 457. She is today back using it again thanks to your tutorial so you have played your part in the UK too! I couldn't get a Singer pinion and had to source from China. The pinions I got were slightly out of tolerance and the mesh was too tight- disaster! I ground a few thou off the bottom of the pinion and ground flat and it all works! I may replace with a genuine part when I can get one. Cheers from the UK!
Oh, nicely done, sir. Thanks for saving that machine! I have heard from people here in the US that a maker of that gear sells them with the metal base a little tall and others have had to grind them down a little. I would replace it when you can. They are cheap and not as hard to change as the vertical gear on the arm shaft so don't take a chance of harming that one. The 457K was made in the UK but I was still surprised at the number of comments and emails from "over the pond" when I started posting videos of the model. It's all good and I thank you for taking time to comment.
Replaced my top gear screw, a little tricky (had to use a pencil to lower it on) but I couldn't have done it without your excellent step by step guidance! Thank you!
Very welcome. Nicely done! It's good for another 20 years. Take Care
Andy - super video. Second hand singer bought a while back. I thought it worked till I took apart to find the gear broken - yup, black! Ebay nylon gear bought and now fixed for a fraction of the cost of a new one and a couple of hours work. Many thanks!
Nicely done. Thanks for saving that machine. Stop by again sometime.
Thank you So Very much for your informative videos!!!! After breaking two needles I figured out my sewing machine timing was off, but why?!?! Well after peeking in the top of my machine I saw lots of little teeth of what was my top gear-ugh! So the parts recently arrived, and I just finished putting my machine back together and its running perfectly! Thank you so much, I would not have figured out the fix without your guidance and I'm so happy to have my moms wonderful old machine running perfectly again!!!
Fantastic, Renee! I'm so glad you found the video and thank you for saving your machine. Mom picked a good one, didn't she, oh... and the machine too! Happy sewing.
Thanks Andy... Your video is very descriptive and exactly what I needed. Bought a 457 Zig-Zag Stylist for $20. Bobbin Mechanism was not moving, otherwise a very clean machine. As you said at the start of this video, the vertical gear was brittle and in many pieces inside the top case. Ordered the part today for $8....'A White ONE!!"...just to be safe. I've watched the entire video and plan to use it again are a tutorial as I replace the gear and time the machine. I cannot Thank You enough for posting your videos here on RUclips. Expect that now I will have a sewing machine that will work for a long time to come. Thanks again Andy :) Jim New York.
Very welcome, James. You can do it! For $28 you'll have a very capable machine, and the consensus seems to be the new gear will last in the range of 20 to 30 years. I glad you are saving the machine from being a boat anchor or landfill debris. I'm hoping many, many more people will find this video and know that there is a handful of models that can be restored to good use just by replacing the gear. It's kind of like our "Green New Life". Saving the machines and protecting the planet? Thanks for the great comment and good luck.
Your directions were great, I have the new gear in and adjusted the tenion. The tread coming out of the bobbin is still tight and looking for another video to correct. I purchased this machine from Salvation Army for 10.50 and I think is was a great fine once I get it working.
It was a great find. It's a very nice, versatile machine and now you replaced the only weak spot. It has a Class 66 Bobbin case that you can clean and adjust. Here is a video about it: ruclips.net/video/HT5XZ5eYYEQ/видео.html I have a playlist of videos for basic operation and some other minor adjustments and repairs in case you find other little problems once you use it regularly. Here is the list: ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKK9GeuGLCo6ZyWv-HbheRVK Good luck, and happy sewing.
Picked-up a 477 today at Salvation Army. It has the exact problem but working to get it corrected. Nice to have the reference of your video to help along with the repair - thanks for taking the time to post the information. I'm going to look around to see if these gears are available in metal ... maybe I can get my husband to machine them for me. :) Even with this repair I'd much prefer an older machine than the junk they sell now. These seemingly insignificant 2 plastic gears could be the smoking gun that took Singer down from their hay-day. How unfortunate.
Welcome. IMO, it was not plastic gears that caused the downfall of Singer, but the much cheaper machines from Japan and then Taiwan. As costs went up after WWll the price of an all-metal Singer was more than most people wanted to spend. My understanding is that Singer was sold to a Japanese investor around 1984. The plastic gears should last 25 years or more if not exposed to oil. You can download a 75-page pdf copy of the Original Singer Instruction Manual for Model 477 for free here:
www.singer.com/sites/default/files/product_manual/01c62c901c15f3202fc3263cd76cd27c3bc2f688_0.pdf
Since you will be working on your machine you may find a copy of the 5-page parts diagram with numbers to be helpful. It is free also at this link:
parts.singerco.com/CPpartCharts/4_4999/477K.pdf
Good Luck with the gears and thanks for watching my channel.
People may not have wanted to spend the money but the introduction of the plastic parts is the downfall.
OK, Heidi, the introduction of the plastic parts is the downfall. Thank you.
I took your advice and did the video on the Singer. I didn’t know whether you wanted me to put your link in there or not but, I referred to your video as being much more detailed. Check it out if you want. The software I used was new and easy to use but, not happy with voiceovers. I too ran into lighting issues and some sound issues and did this on my front porch. I still like your video more than mine. That timing is very tricky as lining everything up because I was still not sure how close the needle was to be near the hook point I believe you call it. I never worked on a sewing machine before and this was a nice challenge.
Any of my videos can be shared or linked, no worries. I'm glad you made the video, Rik. it is direct and to the point and covers the main steps of changing the gears ( ruclips.net/video/fYVqCjtdu6w/видео.html ) It is perfect for people with some mechanical/tool experience where my video if for the complete novice. Yes, lighting is always a hassle isn't it? The clear close-up pictures you added did the trick so we can pause on them and see what we need. I added a CARD to this video ( circled i in the top right corner of the video) that has a link to your video, added the video link in the description below the video, and I pinned your comment to the top here so others can see it. I know you just needed to get the gear changed so you could get on with your sewing project, so thanks for taking the time to share a video on RUclips. The more the better. Take Care.
amazing- thank you for all your added hints to make this repair successful . It is also nice to see that even the repair person drops screws. The repair keeps a good machine out of the landfill and into a new home for another 40 yrs. Demystified timing!
thanks for saving the machine. I appreciate your kind comment. Oh yes, I've dropped too many screws to count during these 500+ videos and put parts on wrong, etc. I only edit it out if I said a bad word, oops... I thought about making a blooper video, but 5 hours is just too long to watch! Thanks for watching my channel.
Thank you so very much! This helped me to save a perfectly good free machine which had the same gear broken (the darker type) but otherwise ran beautifully. It is a Singer model 247, but this video helped with the timing issue, also. I discovered what was wrong and was able to order two parts, which came to under $18, including shipping. I didn’t know how I was going to replace the gear until I found your video. I appreciate your effort and time in making this.
Welcome and glad you found the video. Thanking you for saving a machine from the landfill. Nicely done, Barbara ⭐
Dear Andy. Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video and for the very detailed explanation. You are a true gentleman.
Thanks for the nice comment. I'll assume you saved a machine so that's for that. It's not easy if you've never worked on a machine like this, so a step-by-step is helpful. Folks who are more familiar just browse thru the chapters to get the point and then go for it. Hope you have a great 2020 and take care.
Just starting to sew by machine but fixing my Mom's Singer 636 seems to be its own project. The bobbin wasn't engaging so after some detective work I opened it up and gear pieces fell out. Getting some good insight from this video even though it's not the same model. Thanks so much!
I'm glad you found the video. Your 636 is a touch & sew and yep, has gear driven hook also. Terry has some manuals and guides on his website, factory and one's that he wrote himself.
He is the guy I go to for T & S models. store.tandtrepair.com/tosew600se.html He has a 20% off coupon for Andy TUbe viewers through the end of 2021, The code is andy-h-yt.
You can find a couple of videos on YuTUbe for T & S Gear replacement. Good luck, and thanks for the comment.
@@andytubesewing1953 Thanks very much!
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I am so happy that this video taught me how to fix my singer247. I changed the top shaft gear and then I fix the timing and turn out everything is so perfect. Thank you very much Andy.
You are welcome and thank you for saving your machine. Happy sewing knowing you did it yourself!
How did you access the shaft??
@@snowandbooks Did you reply to Marianne? Hope she sees this. I wondered that same thing. Some models must remove the vertical shaft out the top after removing the main horizontal arm shaft. I DO NOT KNOW if that is the case with her 247. I've never worked on that model. One of the guides/manuals on Terry's website may have the answer and you could ask him. As an Andy Tube viewer, he'll give you 20% off anything you buy coupon andy-h-yt,
site.tandtrepair.com/Fashion_Mate.html Good luck.
Thank you Andy. You've helped me stop yet another Singer 457 rescued from certain scrap
@@WarrenTrombly oh that's great thanks for saving it I appreciate what you're doing
Thank you Thank you Thank you!! For all your videos. I would never have thought I would be able to do this! I wouldn't have without this video. But I was able to replace the top gear -- which as you said was totally disintegrating. Not only that but your videos explain how the machine works and why we have to be careful about replacing things in a certain way. All that teaching helped me identify problems and fix things on other sewing machines. I love your videos. Thank you!!
Your kind comment validates my hard work in making the videos. You are exactly the viewer I am hoping to reach. Someone who may not have ever done any work like this, but is interested and willing to learn. I'm so proud of you for replacing that gear. It's not an easy job, and parts of the work are tricky to do, but you did it! 🏆 So now it is me thanking you for saving that machine and getting it back in service. From working on it you see it is a well-designed and made model and with the new gear can keep sewing for at least a couple more decades! You made my evening with your comment, Karla, and today you are my favorite viewer. Oh, and thanks for fixing the other machines too! A regular machine mechanic you are now. ✨ Take care.
@@andytubesewing1953 I have to just say -- I also appreciate how you respond to everyone. It is so dignified and humane. We need more of that. I like fixing things, especially older things because sometimes they were better made and just a tweak here or there can keep them going. Newer machines with all their plastic, need I say more? And not having to throw yet one more thing on the trash pile, I feel like I am helping out just a bit. I will also tell you my mom took this machine to get fixed by a professional -- I saw that the belt was replaced and a bobbin holder -- but the guy never even found the gear and just declared it fixed, which course it wasn't. Andy to the rescue!!
And one last thing -- after I changed the gear -- one of the belts wasn't moving -- well, guess what? There is an Andy video for that too. And I loosened it up and now the machine is actually sewing. Off to make a dress. So thanks again!!
@@karlasanchez9742 I'm doubling down on my pleasure reading these comments. It's viewers like you that help justify my making 550+ videos. I have heard so many stories about "professional" repair shops and people feeling ripped off. Now you know you can do the work on these machines, even better than the professional your mom went to. They may not have had any idea how to replace the gear, but why not tell her that upfront? Well, now she has her own family professional sewing machine repair tech. Happy sewing, and it's a good time to make a spring dress I think.
I can't hit the LIKE button often enough for this very excellent educational video!!!! As Chickanic says in her videos, you have saved me time, money and frustration. Just this last week the timing went out on our machine, needle hitting metal. Found the top gear fine on one side and the teeth kind of mushy like old rubber on the other. No way for the gear on the horizontal shaft to engage it. No need for me to speed up the video, I paused it several times to look at our machine. I find it odd that the screw on the left goes into a speed nut rather than have the body of the machine tapped like it is for all the others. Our machine is in a cabinet, seems I might need my wife to hold the vertical shaft pulley while I put on the top gear, it is her machine so she can help ;). Our 457 doesn't have the top oil hole and has a plastic pulley on the bottom of the shaft. Part on order from Amazon. Amazing that these 45+ year old machines are still repairable. Thank you so very much for making the EXACT video I needed!
Happy you found the video. I've never replaced the gear while the machine was in a cabinet. Teamwork should do it though. My wife has helped me several times and maintains her 301A & 403A machines. I know you guys will be fine and back to sewing quickly. Thanks for the great comment 🙏
Your fantastic! Thanks again. I did a 301 with you and it turned out great. Then found a 237 and a 457. Both are presenting me with new challenges. Your videos no doubt will help me figure them out.
Well, thank you very much. I'm happy you are rescuing all those machines. Fun, isn't it? Here is some breaking news, and you're the first to hear it if you'd like to "play along"; my next series is going to be a Singer "SPARTAN" 327K I picked up for $10 at a yard sale. The seller said it was so cheap b/c it's a Spartan, not a Singer, even though it says "The Singer Manufacturing Company, Made in Great Britain" on the back. A cute green color. Hope to see you there, and thanks for watching my channel.
I was gifted this machine a few days ago and almost parted it out because of the intimidation of changing the crumbled gear out, when I remembered doing this before after having watched your video. So I’ll order the gear and keep the machine. I’m still watching the video so I don’t remember if you recommend going ahead and getting a new belt while I’m at it? Thanks for this great video and helping me save this machine!
Still cog belts are very strong but if you see small cracking or wear, this is the perfect time to replace the belt because you have to take the old one off anyway
Thanks for your video -- I wouldn't have known where to begin replacing the gear without it. I just bought a 457 for $25... the plastic teeth on the gear crumbled on its 3rd use. It's in tip top shape now with a new gear and timing belt!
Thanks for saving that machine! 🙏A very familiar story with that gear, and I'm glad you found the video and took the time to repair it.
This 1969 model cost about $1,600.00 today dollars so you certainly have a bargain there. It's really a strong, versatile machine and I hope you enjoy it for many decades now. Also, thanks for the Allen wrench info and I added it to the description below the video 👍
I appreciate you sharing your story, and take care.
Another fantastic video made by you! I always appreciate the detail, tips, how you name the parts, and how you describe the operation of the working mechanisms of the machines! Thank you once again!
Thank you for recognizing the effort 😊I appreciate your support of my channel. Take care.
Thank you so much Andy. Your video is superb, following your step by step approach enabled me to repair the broken Singer 413 to its former glory. Thank you again from a very grateful Brit.
I really love that it helped and you took the time to let me know. Thank you for saving that wonderful vintage machine. Take care.
I thought I was finished fixing my 457. But it wouldn't stitch more than 3 or 4 stitches before it would hang up. I checked the timing 12 ways to sunday. Couldn't find the problem. Until finally it just plain popped completely out of time.Noticed a problem with the pulleys and belt on the bottom. Spun that by hand, and it spun easily. Turned the machine back up. Spun the handwheel by hand, and watched the entire black gear disintegrate and fall off! Thank you for the video. I would have wasted a lot of time taking other things off to get to it.
Selador11, I cannot get the little screw on the gear to loosen?!? Help if you can. Thanks, Sue
@@susanayers2781 Andy explains in the video how to turn the gear to the most advantageous place. Use a long screwdriver to reach in there. If it's just because it is too tight... That's something you have to figure out. I would use a screwdriver that fits the slot in the screw as tightly as possible. Tap it a few times to make sure it is well seated in there. And if it is just too tight, put some vise grips on the shank of the screwdriver to use as a handle to turn the screwdriver with. Being very careful to keep the screwdriver well seated into the screw while you do so, so you don't strip out the head of the screw.
I'm so glad you found the video! With the new gear, a white one if you can find it, you'll be good for years to come. BTW, the black gear you found in the machine was not the original, so it had been replaced before. The first replacement I did was a black gear and my cousin brought it back months later with that gear in pieces. I was advised to use a white one and so far they are all still working; 2 to 7 years now. Thanks for the nice comment and good luck.
@@andytubesewing1953 I'll be waiting a while. Local shop doesn't have the gear. I have to order it and wait for it.
@@selador11 Sigh... been there many times. Pfft... hope it arrives soon. Best of luck 👍
i'm in the middle of swapping out the top gear in my 478...THANK YOU!!
A nice Saturday project. Thanks for saving that machine, Dave. Good Luck 👍
@@McGrawsome No worries, Margo. You can do it 👍 Thanks for saving the machine and putting it back in service. Oh, and thanks for watching my channel. ✨
@@McGrawsome You should be impressed; nicely done and I know you found it rewarding 🏆 Hmmm... $25 + $6 - $31 for a very nice versatile machine that is ready to go another 30 years on a new gear. I've heard shops charge as much as $300 for replacing that gear, so if you ever need a little extra income... just saying.
@@McGrawsome See? He was smart enough to marry you, so I know he recognizes your skills. Automobile motor work costs more than sewing machine work though. Just saying...
I have two Singer 413's that need new vertical top gears. Your video is excellent! I have not replaced them yet but I am confident that I can do it after watching your video...a few times! I will post my results when I have done the work.
Thank you. Maybe you could do a how-to video on your channel for the 413 model. There are thousands of them in need of a new gear and maybe more people could be reached about it. Best of luck to you, and thanks for saving those machines. Take Care.
@@andytubesewing1953 I successfully changed the top vertical gear on one of my 413'sand timed it! I will record the new gear installation on the other 413 and post the video.
Thank you for your excellent instructions!
Sherry
@@sherryiradi9231 That's great!! I know so many folks would love to see a how-to video for changing the gear on that model. When you post it if you give me a link I will git it a shout out on my channel. Good Luck.
@@andytubesewing1953 I will do that! Thanks!
This video is just what I needed, aside from a new gear. I recently acquired a 457 that has the exact same symptoms as the one you were looking at. From what I can see it looks like three teeth are gone from its top vertical shaft gear. Fortunately new gears are going for about $6 on eBay at the moment.
3 teeth now, 10 teeth soon. I'm glad you found the video. I still feel the white colored gear is of better quality. Watch for the seller to post "Color may Vary" and send you a black one. Get yours now before the tariffs go up, haha. You will be happy with that 457 after the new gear, A strong, versatile ZZ machine. Hope it goes well for you. Thanks for watching.
Great video Andy. Ordered a new gear for the mother in-laws singer 457 and can’t wait to repair it for her.
thanks! You can do it, no worries. Huge In-Law points headed your way 😉
Andy Tube Hi Andy. Part arrived and absolutely nailed fitting it but unfortunately it appears to be too tight and the gears don’t work smoothly. Not sure if the part I ordered is just crap. Any suggestions where a trust worthy place is to order from? Thanks
Thank you Andy. Another Singer 457 rescued from certain scrap 😊
A wonderful comment to hear this morning, Genevieve. I appreciate what you've done to keep that machine and service and out of the landfill 🙏
Thank you for the video. I managed to replace the top gear of a Singer 466 I bought in Goodwill. It sews great after multiple tries doing the tension on the timing belt. The timing explanation was very thorough. I even saw another video of yours to take off the knobs and those metal clips. Thank you. The sewing machine has one other problem since I got it, it's stuck in reverse! The reverse button just hits some lever and doesn't spring back.
Turn the machine around to sew forward. That is an old joke :) The push-button reverse system is different than the lever reverse systems I've made videos of. Ther is a pin carrier and spring inside there. So some possible problems are spring broke, pin broke, carrier cracked and spring is loose. Congratulations on changing the gear. I think you can fix the feed problem and I can share parts and repair manuals with you if you email to andymanuals53@gmail.com. Be sure to put "manuals for model 466" in the subject line. Thanks for saving that machine, and for watching my channel.
I have been searching for days for this video. It is so helpful and going to save me $200 doing it myself. I just recently came across a Singer 247 with a C at the beginning of thr serial # which is really interesting from what I've read. Thank you so much I will be following for more awesome videos
I'm glad you found the video. One of 550+ videos on my channel. A few other viewers have commented on using the video to repair their models 242, 247, and 248 machines. You have a nide model their and with the new gear, you'll be sewing along for 30 years with normal cleaning and oiling. Best of luck and take care.
@@andytubesewing1953 thank you for the response ☺ I'm pretty excited about what I found lol with it being all metal I'm having a hard time getting to the set screw on the gear but all in all this video helped tremendously.
@@courtneystewart5637 You know, if the 247 is the model I think it is, a couple of viewers mentioned they bought a service manual for $9 download that helped them remove some other parts and gain access to the set screws: manualsoncd.com/product/singer-240-series-sewing-machine-service-manual/
I've never worked on any of the 240's so can't advise you. One guy also said he drilled a hole/holes in the backside to allow his screwdriver entry to the gear set screws. Hope it works out for you, Courtney. Good luck.
@@andytubesewing1953 You are incredibly helpful. Thank you so much
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I watched this video because it popped up, I thought it was entertaining. I watched all the 401 videos, got mine running beautifully. Well, I am pretty glad I saw this, I'm now working on a Kenmore 1750 that belonged to my mother, guess I will refrain from getting oil or grease on it's one plastic gear!!!
I just don't put grease on a plastic gear UNLESS it interfaces with a metal gear, like the handwheel gear on your 401A or a plastic cmstack gear to the metal worm gear on the arm shaft. On those I use the TriFlow clear synthetic grease which is listed a "safe" for most plastics. Wait, Kenmore? What? Oh, it was free right? or you found it in a dumpster, right? Just kidding; Kenmore made some very nice, strong models over the years.
Back when I did this job on the 413 I set the machine on it's back, it was in the cabinet, and grabbed the gear with an extendable magnet, and then pulled the shaft down with one hand while removing the gear/magnet with the other.
Worked out very well.
The gear removal is different on the 413, that hole you used does not exist and you have to go through where the thread length lever is.
Went back in with the magnet holding the gear the same way, really slick.
Biggest problem I had was the screw was so tight I destroyed two Craftsman screwdrivers trying to get it to snap loose, finally had to go buy a German Wiha screw driver that was tough enough to get it out.
I put it back in with the allen set screw after the screw driver dilemma.
Picked up a beautiful 404 today for peanuts, looks and runs great.
Only thing I could find wrong with it was they had the stop nut washer in upside down, so when you ran it, it backed off and went into bobbin winding mode.
Another great video Andy, thank you.
Thanks. I liked working on the 413 better also. Gotta love those Willi Han Corp. Tools, right? Congrats on your 404, and thanks for watching.
@@andytubesewing1953 they are very good screw drivers, I haven't twisted a blade on one yet and have removed some very stubborn screws.
My irwin impact bits aren't as tuff as they are
Andy, your videos are the very best, I was sewing last night with my 457 and it was running great but then no stitches, they I noticed that the bobbin wasn't turning any more, got up this morning and I've been following you video for the gear issue and yes, the gear is missing so many teeth (machine would sew for a bit and hit a place with missing teeth), I having trouble getting the little set screw to loosen. Thank you so much for all you do for all of us!!!!
A classic experience when the gear fails. I'm glad you found the video, Susan. Set screws can be difficult. Penetrating oil, heat from a hairdryer, tapping on the screwdriver while turning can help sometimes. I've been using a new (to me) tool called an IMPACT DRIVER that accepts screwdriver bits, 1/4" like I use, and you hold the driver into the screw and hit the other end. This causes a quick, hard, short twist and breaks free the set screw, or other screw. SOmething like this: www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-W2503-Impact-Extractor/dp/B00MXFFPVY
@@andytubesewing1953 Hi Andy, thank you so very much for the information, I'm not giving up yet, I know the machine sews beautiful stitches and I'm so happy I found you on RUclips a few years ago.
Hi Andy and selador11, I got the gear off of the machine about 10 minutes ago!!!! I found this very old, beat up Stanley Screw Driver (made in the USA) and I had used Krud Kutter during the day today and that screw driver is such a mess (probably used it to open paint cans over the years) it's the only one I hadn't tried. I am so HAPPY, just waiting for the new one to come in the mail. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, Sue
@@susanayers2781 I know you will succeed. We are helping from afar.
@@susanayers2781 I knew it! Yay for the old vintage screwdriver! Nicely done, Susan🏆⭐👍.
Thank you Andy for the very thorough and precise instruction for the repair and timing. I will be doing this exact procedure when the part comes in...could not of done it without your excellent video.
Sure, you are welcome! You can do it, Mike, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to comment and good luck.
Thank you for this video; it was greatly appreciated! My Mother-in-Law just gave us her old, in-cabinet model (just like yours depicted) that was purchased back in the late 60s and after dusting, oiling, and inspecting, I found the horizontal tower shaft gear missing 180 degrees of teeth and the needle that was installed was bent. I assume the timing of the hook and needle shaft went out sometime before we had acquired it. Your video helped me understand a machine I've never worked on since I'm a visual and hands-on learner. Again, thank you.
Very welcome, and I think your correct about the timing. The moment that gear cracks or loses a tooth the timing is lost. I'm glad you found my video and thank you for saving the machine and getting it back in service. Nicely done and happy sewing.
Excellent video. Photography exceptionally well done to show needle timing and interaction with needle bar and bobbin .. this is a great teaching tool .. and your explanation was spot on in helping me understand what you are doing and why you are doing it .. super job
Thanks very much for the kind comment, and for watching my channel. Take care.
Thanks so much for your great explanation. I've a Singer 449 where I had to replace the top cog which was the easy part. The timing was the challenge but with your help I did it. Thanks again. Neville, Southampton, UK
I'm glad you found the video. Thanks for saving the machine and for the nice comment.
Thank you for this video.
I just replaced the gear on my 247. A little diferent but similar, no front face to take out and dificult to put the screw that hold the gear, but I did it. The rest the same, and also the timing.
Your video really help!!!
Congratulations. I know from other viewers that the 242/247 models require some difficult workarounds to get the gear replaced. Thank you for your perseverance and for saving the machine from the dump. I'm glad the video was helpful.
Sam Guffey
Andy, thank you so very much for your unending generosity. I need some help. I have two problems both on a Singer 2112. There is very little information on this machine. I am cleaning/lubricating a Singer Merritt 2112 to give to a minister’s wife at one of our Spanish speaking ministries. . At any rate in an attempt to access and clean the plastic cam stack and unstick and clean the metal gears on the horizontal shaft on the top of the machine, I unscrewed two screws and removed 2 flat metal bars If you’re looking at the top from the front of the machine, these bars are located Just to the left of the horizontal, flat, plastic “pattern selection” wheel. A fairly large flat circular spring/wire (7/8 “) seemed to come out from the screw that holds two different moving bars. The spring/wire as mentioned, is circular 7/8” and it has a wire like a finger 3/8” going straight down from the circle/ring shape and the finger has a slight crook to it. Above the circle/ ring shape, the wire bends and is approximately 1/4”. I only unscrewed two screws. I can’t figure out where this spring would have come from. Do you have any ideas? Secondly, I cannot figure where one flat washer goes. It has a tiny finger going down inside the circle of the washer. The washer reminds me somewhat of the metal washer that goes inside the tension control that you have a video of Singer 457. But the tiny finger goes down inside the circle whereas the washer in the video of 457 the finger goes up above the washer. Thank you. Alicia
Alicia, the 2112 model is about 20 to 30 years newer than the ones I work on. I've never even seen a 2112 in person. No one I contacted has a Service Manual for it and I was told it would be very difficult to find one. I can offer you a parts list and diagram that shows pop-out views of the parts assemblies. I've used these before to help me orientate where a part might go. If you care to email me at andytube53@gmail.com I'll be happy to send a copy to you. That's all I can offer, sorry, and good luck.
You are the BEST teacher, I hope I can get my machine working, thank you SO MUCH!!!
I appreciate your kind comment, thank you 🙏 I see this video now has 117K+ views and I'm happy to see so many folks keeping their machines in service. You can do it, Jill. You know where I am if needed.
@andytubesewing1953 Thank you very much sir! I put the new gear on last night maybe do the whole timing belt thing in a couple of days.
@@jillsmit8238 wow! That was quick! Congratulations! If the hand wheel turns everything smoothly, you're in business. Best of luck
@andytubesewing1953 I'm having problems with lowering the needle bar to that top line. I took the set screw out and the bar isn't dropping down at all.
I oiled the square nut thing on the needle bar, cleaned bar with Isopropyl, heated with hairdryer for 5 mins, and tapped it with screw driver and still nothing 😑 its very close to the line where it's supposed to be but it's a little off, should I just forget it?
People like you are a treasure of knowledge and so helpful. Thank you so much.
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You are adressing my exact issue with my Stylist 476. (24:00) Mine is doing the exact same thing.
Thank you for this video.
Thank you for the comment. I appreciate your effort to save the machine. Good luck.
@@andytubesewing1953 I think of myself as having a Depression Era mentality: If it’s worth saving, I’ll save it.🙂 These machines are a part of our history.
If I could’ve saved all the organs people were pulling out of churches, I would’ve done that too. But alas, they were too heavy…😭
@@toonybrainfor sure the sewing machines are much more manageable and I only got in trouble when I had too many to hide behind the sofa and my wife noticed haha. Carry on then. Appreciate your hard work good luck
Thank you so very, very much for posting your videos. I've watched a few to trouble shoot the problem and now the gear is on order. Learned so much from your knowledgeable videos. BRAVO!
Good news! I loved reading this, Kathleen. Thanks for saving a vintage machine and for taking time to comment.
Awesome video! I don’t have the same model machine, but you showed me to look for access point to vertical shaft gear! I found it and now I know how to time my machine too! Thank you so much!
Thanks for the comment. Glad the video helped. See you again I hope. Take Care.
I ran into this problem with my Singer 247 and I really appreciate the video, thanks sew much, just made a little different where the top comes off without a front panel. I’m just not sure if I can do this 😊
I've heard from quite a few viewers who never been inside a machine sewing machine. Who said that they were able to do it? I had an email about 3 months ago from an 82-year-old who talked to her neighbor who teaches a shop class at the high school and he offered students extra credit. If they would take the project on two kids volunteered and over two class periods they changed it out. So where there's a will there's a way model. 247 is a nice sturdy machine and it's worth the effort. I hope you find a way. Thanks for watching my channel and good luck
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
My wife's ancient Singer 247 finally bit the dust and after removing the cover I saw the shredded vertical top gear. The 247 looks similar to your 457, so I ordered a replacement part, and used your expert instructions to replace the gear and retime the machine. It's working great again!
First time I ever worked on a sewing machine. It's really something to watch it run with the cover off. All those parts moving in perfect synchrony. How'd they design such an intricate mechanism 40 years ago without computers and CAD systems? The same way we got to the moon back then, I suppose. :)
Nicely Done, Keith! I'm happy the video helped you out. I agree it is amazing to work on the machines and see how intricate and well made they are and run. The oldest machine I did was a 1929 and I could not believe how well the shafts and bushings had been milled. Not to mention the hook made from of a single piece of steel. I think you enjoyed it. Keep your eye out for a nice 403A to restore. Direct drive interior motor and all steel gears. No belts! They are a lot of fun. Thanks for commenting and don't be a stranger.
Thanks Andy, after rewiring mine and new pedal etc, tried it and that gear just fell into pieces, got one coming tomorrow from Amazon so hopefully I can get it sorted
I'm sure you can do it. When finished you'll have a nice running machine with new wires and pedal, too. 👍 Good for another 20 - 30 years. Good luck, and thanks for watching my channel.
Thanks Andy. Your video really helped me order the correct part and to replace the gear and properly time the machine.
Nicely done, mike. I'm glad you found the video and saved that nice machine from the landfill. Happy sewing ✨
Thanks for the video! Took me two days to get a stuck set screw out but got everything working now!
Wow nicely done Paul I'm glad you stuck with it. That machine is worth it and you're probably set for 30 years now. Nice that you found the video and thank you for your comment
It worked great for about a week but now the vertical drive shaft seized up. I took that out, cleaned it and oiled it. It’s back to working but now it won’t stay timed. I’ve timed it a couple times today, and it’ll work for a bit and then get out of wack. Any ideas?
Thank you very much for the concise guidance. I got an old Singer 449 in a cabinet reasonably inexpensive and have found your video helpful.
Sheila (UK)
Happy to hear this. You are the first to comment about a 449 model so I appreciate the info. Hope all goes well and you love your new Singer. Thanks for watching my channel.
Love your tutorial on this. I have a Singer Model 360 Vintage 1975. It's pretty much like this one except taking the front or back cover off to replace the top gear on the vertical shaft, I still cannot get to the worn out bevel gear. It looks like I would need to unscrew everything from the top just to get to that gear. I am not going to do that, way too many things to unscrew just to get to that gear. I'm saddened because I've had that machine for 40 years and will have to throw it away and buy a new sewing machine because I am not able to get to that gear.
Too sad 😢 There are some models that you have to remove the top arm (and everything attached) to pull the gear and shaft out the top. I've never seen a 360 but I do have the parts diagram for it. It looks like all the covers can be removed, not just the top, but front, back, motor, etc. Now there could still me a metal frame inside that blocks you. That is how the model 353 is. If you'd like the parts diagrams just email andymanuals53@gmail.com and ask. No charge. I'll also say I have emails from folks who really wanted to keep a family machine like yours and they found ways to drill holes, or enlarge openings, usually in the back but also front under cover and could get the gear off the shaft then follow my video pulling just the shaft down. By using BBQ sticks, wires, pliers, hemostats they got the new gear into the machine. They admitted it was not easy, but they just were not going to follow the 12 to 15 step process of dismantling the whole top of the machine. If it is a gonner, don't throw it away but give to Goodwill. eBay sellers buy them and sell the parts off of them. Just the tension unit can fetch almost $20, let alone the covers, motor, wiring, etc.
If you do look for a new one consider a nice vintage one a little older, 237,337,338,403A. No plastic gears but very strong models. You can find videos of them on my playlist page here: ruclips.net/channel/UCUSPDsHaFtRoz1VA2U1xJ4wplaylists?view_as=public Best of luck, Sharon.
I have one 359k singer will this gear fits on the machine looks very similar but I don't see number of my machine In your discretion list, confused so which one I should order? I always like to watch your RUclips video and now I became a sewing machine repair, I collected so many old machine and sold it to happy
Customer that I have never thought that I would be able to fix these vintage sewing machine, but this is not the end I am still learning from you and you are my teacher ☺️ thank you so much for your fantastic hard working videos that you have gifted to all of us
Congratulations on owning such a rare machine! No, this gear won't work for you. I DO NOT have any records for model 359 to look up the part numbers. I don't think it was ever sold in the USA. Other nearby model numbers, like 353, 354, 360 have a shaft and gear combination that must be replaced from the top of the machine after removing the horizontal arm shaft. I DO NOT know if that is the case with your 359. Here is the part I mean: www.sewingpartsonline.com/arm-shaft-w-gear-singer-445491.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6JKeq_206wIVfT2tBh1AJAOEEAQYBiABEgKAxfD_BwE A repair like that is much more difficult than the one in my video. What is confusing to me is the pictures I found of the 359 model looks so much like the 327K model. Like twins of different colors. ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKKHFzTFVJrwVQT6hMfXxFHt
If the 359 mechanics are similar to the 327 or like the 457 in the video then maybe the gear can come out the front like my video, but I have no experience with your model. You have to remove the gear and see the part number on it to know what replacement gear to use.
Thank you so much for your reply 😊
@@neroandlina6617 sure, but I wish I have a more definite answer for you. It's a beautiful machine. Good Luck.
Thx Andy! Your video is very clear and informative. I hope to get my 457 machine back in running order very soon :)
Thank you, Crystal that machine is certainly worthy of the effort and you'll be replacing the only weak spot so good to go for 20 years or so. Thanks for saving that machine and good luck😊
Absolutely agreed about the plastic that that gear was made of. Here's the thing... The plastic gear that it meshes with, does NOT deteriorate like that. I think this is an early example of planned obsolescence. They knew the difference in the plastics. And intentionally made this particular gear out of the sort of plastic that would deteriorate.
That may be true. There are a handfull of models from that 5 to 10 year period that have that gear, and they all have a breakage problem. It usually takes about 25 to 30 years before they broke, so if they planned that, they had sold the company before it happened.
@@andytubesewing1953 I am going to have to re-think my theory, there. LOL
@@selador11 maybe so 😉
Mission accomplished, but now machine sews in reverse. What did I miss? THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE
I do realize now I removed the upper shaft pully when I did this. Could this be my sin?
@@freedragonfly Not sure of the "upper shaft pulley" meaning, but I'll ask what stitch length you have it set to?
The direction of the fabric being pulled by the Feed Dog is controlled by the Feed Regulator, more commonly called the stitch length lever. The silver lever on the front of the upright. Once that lever is raised above zero it puts the machine into reverse, and the farther you raise it the longer the reverse stitch. Move the lever down to six (6) and see if that makes the fabric go towards the back of the machine.
@@andytubesewing1953 now that I have puttered more, I am working on a Singer 5040 that needed this top gear replaced on the verticle shaft. I found this video after I started (LOL) I had removed the pully and the feed dog cam from the shaft (?) so I wouldn't damage when pulling out the shaft (thump forhead) Anyways. I timed the machine and have the pully and the feed log cam in the "right" place because now it it sewing fine! Yay! Now it isn't feeding in reverse when I go to lock the stitch. ARGH! thank you so much in advance.
@@freedragonfly You lost me at 5040. That model was made 30 years or more after what I work on. I have hundreds of manuals, but none for that machine. The places I buy service manuals and parts lists do not carry them for the 5040/5050. Singer USA does still have free a copy of the instruction manual www.singer.com/search/support?title=5040 but that type of manual does not cover parts replacement or adjustments. No joy for you here. Sorry.😢
I appreciate you Andy, this video was so helpful already, please do not think I implied otherwise. A girls's gotta hope, right?@@andytubesewing1953