Lifetime Shed Reinforcing, Shelves, and a Wall
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- Lifetime sheds have incredible looks, reasonable price, and amazing design. Their biggest drawback is that adding any serious shelves or a wall is impossible without some serious reinforcement. I believe it is worth the effort, time and cost to make this shed truly remarkable. This video will give the details on how to accomplish these tasks without any nails or drilling through the plastic walls. Using only bolts and screws also has the advantage that this shed can easily be disassembled or modified. Hope this video will help you achieve these tasks.
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I'm probably not. The only person who've noticed that you're quite a good carpenter and probably should have just built your own shed lol. Great job on your modifications.
Just bought the same shed 6 years later. Looking for ideas and stumbled on your video. Thanks for sharing. Probably gonna do exactly what you did!
I'm Nelda's husband. I just finished following your instructions and the results are AMAZING! Great advice. It looks brilliant, well organized, and we have much more storage space. Thank you!
Your explanation of tying into the metal rafters was exactly what I needed, thanks!
Thank you so much. Wonderful explanation
Three years ago, Hurricane Maria broke my shed and in these days of pandemic I was motivated to repair it because I was missing parts and thank you for sharing your work, now I can reinforce mine. P Rico
Just bought a 15x8 60075 lifetime shed and I wanted to reinforce it. Your video was the best for showing me how to do it. I'll probably go without the shelves. Again excellent video well thought and planned!
I’m waiting for mine til next Thursday
3 years later and this video is still great thanks Jerry
Thank you so much. I’ve just assembled my shed in one of the windiest cities in UK and was recommend by my builder neighbour to strengthen it with a wood frame. Just what he described.
Thanks for taking the time out to video this much appreciated.
Have you still got your re-inforced shed and if so, how's it coping?
I'm from the UK too and thinking of getting one of these sheds. 😊
Great shelving idea Jerry. Just got a Lifetime shed like yours. Thanks for sharing your method.
This is really great - we've got a similar shed and it's so disorganized right now, it drives us crazy, we had no idea we could put a wooden frame inside. Thanks!
Excellent way of “showing” as you’re explaining! And slow enough I could follow even though I don’t have lots of building experience. Great design, and well thought out details! Than you for sharing! You saved me so much time!
I will be assembling my 7 X 7 SunCraft storage shed over the next 2 weekends. I am going to reinforce mind with shelving exactly as you did here, just an a slightly smaller scale
Thank you Jerry
Jerry, I watched your shed video. Really awesome and I just finished mine this weekend. Thank you for sharing your ideas.
What a great video. I bought a 8x12.5 foot plastic shed and did this too. It came out great. I’m also going to create wood trusses to support the metal ones to make sure they can take the weight of snow. Thank you so much for this video.
Wow, that has to be the sturdiest plastic shed ever!
That was awesome I’m to going use your techniques on my 6x5 suncast shed Thank you for sharing
I'd personally have added ceiling to that section for the bookcase. So that it doubles as a overhead storage loft accessible from the larger section.
Would love an update video on how this has held-up over the years.
In regards to not filling in the back ... I use costco cardboard boxes to hold my small items. They are free. They are usefull to separate items. Keeps the shelves a bit cleaner as well.
Anyway, thanks for posting. Very informative. I am sharing with my husband to give him a hint to do the same to our shed.
This is a great upgrade idea before the lumber prices of 2021.
Thanks Jerry. Just the design and engineering was lacking. God bless you for sharing.
Jerry, That is great , I will build the same in my shed, looks very sterdy and the shelves i will put my honey bee boxs, 😊
Fantastic job. I love watching videos with such clean work.
Fabulous! I just got a resin shed and was trying to figure out how to build something so I can hang tools on the vertical space. Thanks for the inspiration.
Love this , we are in the same wave length when it comes to building with wood / bolts and brackets. Nice job 👍
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Wow! Jerry, sir! What a masterful job you did! I’ve never commented on videos before but today I was compelled to do so. You’ve created such a monster-like structure-in terms of its solid state and clean beauty-that I can’t help be in awe of it. Beautiful work! You should be proud.
Thanks Allan. I'm glad it helped you.
Have a great day.
jerry
I did pretty much the same reinforcements with my 7x10.5' resin shed... built internal 2x4 stud walls anchored to a pressure treated sill plate that is concrete anchored to the 2x24x24" pavers I used under the entire thing (100 lbs. each). I then ran a bunch of 2-1/2" stainless screws from the outside with washes to lock the resin sides to the frame. There is almost no way it will blow away now in our local winter storms (Buffalo NY).
Thank you so much for sharing your ideas.I can't wait to get started.
Hi Jerry. Thank you for showing a way to add new life and new dimensions to our sheds.
Gorilla Rack shelving units are fast to set up and easy to adjust shelf heights in the future. I have 4 units that I bought in 1983 and have been in use at three different houses. When space is at a premium I try to avoid dead air space that results with fixed shelving heights.
Genius idea that I had in mind too... I will do such and I'll send you a picture.. I have a Lifetime Stringhold 10x8 shed that I too will reinforce. 👍🏽
Nice work.
So you basically built a shed inside your shed!
Not! No roof no floor, no skins
Before I bought my shed -- I saw comments about snow being heavy on roof. Well here in CA we don't need to worry about that. You are reinforcing to have sturdy shelves. Excellent idea! Shelves up high also good idea. I was thinking about doing a little insulation for noise -- neighbors!?
plastic is susceptible to heat --- not sure if I like this plastic shed -- the plastic bends -- not sure I would recommend this shed -- have not put the inner shelves yet -- I think that this is absolutely necessary. I would recommend an aluminum shed not this plastic -- I think that I will make some sort of outside reinforcement also --
Well done, sir!!!! Best explanation of a video yet! You covered everything!
Great info. thanks. Somehow I feel like I just got off an amusement ride
This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for this video!!.
I just built my 20x8 shed much like this one. I like the way you reinforced everything.. Lifetime does a great job on the trusses, but the weak point is in the walls. The only thing I would do differently here is use pocket holes instead of Simpson ties on the studs. A++ for the bomb-proof design!
Thank you! I am going do something similar to my lifetime shed to make it study.
Genius .... !!!
One thing I would have added was drilled the walls of the plastic shed into the vertical studs from outside, just another form of protection so those plastic walls don't wobble under high wind ..
I mean that shed you got was just a shell ... Not very strong for a tropical storm or hurricane. My neighbor HAD that same shed then Hurricane Irma came thru and literally destroyed that plastic shed ... Leveled it to the ground
Good thing is you created an inside structural cage and bolted it down to the concrete pad so now it's pretty secured down ... Your flimsy plastic shed is now reinforced ... Good work ..
Thanks Jerry! I'm going to use your ideas on my Keter Shed👍🏽
Thank you for the good idea I will do that to my new Lifetime shed. 😀👍
It looks like you used synthetic wood for the bottom plate which i approve of. moisture will get wood that touches the floor. i'm currently building a #6402 8' x 12.5' on a 8' x 7' concrete pad (from an old shed) plus a 16" x 16" paver block base that was added to expand the footprint to fit this new larger shed
Dang, you did an awesome job! I love it!👍🏾
Excellent work and ideas. I would argue that it is not even necessary to attach any part of the frame to the shed at all---not at the bottom or top. If the lumber measurements are reasonable snug againts the shed, the frame should not shift. Interested in anyone's thoughts on this.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video! I might be using some of your ideas (maybe with a few less screws ;-D)
Awesome Idea, fixing to reassemble my Craftsman Resin Shed and I am going to try this, Thank you very much!!!
Nice work, looks like you nearly built a shed inside a shed.
I have one of these sheds and worry a bit about their wind resistance, I live on the coast UK and it gets windy sometimes. Time will tell if this is a lifetime shed.
Thanks for the video.
Hi John. If you spend the time and of course the money building a "inner shell" to the Lifetime shed I think you will be able to confidently say your shed will survive your UK winds.
best regards,
jerry
I bought a similar but smaller shed and in north Texas (Dallas) we get some ferocious spring time storms so this is what I did to secure it. The roof trusses have channels which drain to the the exterior. Mr. Benson attached his 2x4 to them. I had a 4 inch concrete base poured a foot longer than needed. I had an eye bolt 4 inches long with a 1 1/2 washer attached on the bottom with a couple of nuts sunk (3 inches in from the edge) into the concrete and aligned where the roof truss would exit the shed. When putting up the truss i ran an extra long 1/4 inch wire rope along it. The last thing I did after building the structure was to attach the wire rope to the eye bolts in the concrete with swages and saddle/u-bolt clips. Be sure to use thimbles to not kink the rope. The swages were really over kill. ;-) I tightened the rope with turnbuckles. be sure to "dry fit" the length before cutting. You can rent the wire rope cutter and swage crimper. I bought mine but I plan on building a couple more sheds.
Thanks for your help.. I will build the same for mine. Jose
Good using screws which I bet it will stay tight longer or forever. Nice job. Cost today of these is ridiculous
I watched this a while back and I am going to do it this summer. My Lifetime shed has been moving 1cm a year and the plastic walls are popping off the metal frames. I need to fortify the shed or I will throw it out in a few more years
Hi Jerry- Great video! I will use a similar technique to install my Rubbermaid 7' X 10' Storage Shed. Reinforcement is key to me as I live in Puerto Rico and we are prone to hurricanes. I have an existing 7' X 7' Rubbermaid Big Max Shed and I'm trying to figure out if I can join both sheds together to make one 7' X 17' shed. My idea is to align them per the roof design as they both have a gable design, and reinforce both together per your video. Not sure if this will work or not. I will have to knock out 1 wall on each unit to perform the join or use the existing door opening on the 7 X 7 shed. If not, I ultimately decide on just having two stand-alone sheds. We shall see. Thanks for the idea!
THIS is amazing- great job!
Well thought out. Thanks for the pointers!
Bom trabalho amigo!! bom dia!!👍😘
Thanks so much for making this video! So helpful!
Good explanation, really inspired me to have a go when I get my hands on some timber. Thanks for sharing your work. How's it looking so far?
Thank you so much...you gave me some really great ideas !!!! Nice and clean
This is beauty! Thanks for the idea
Jerry, it's over 5 years since you put this together. How's it holding up?
That's a pricey add on. Could have almost built another shed.
Yea this is crazy unless you need to store extremely heavy stuff and even in that case would have been cheaper to build from scratch most of the way there already
Agreed. Why not just build a custom shed?
@ts6640 you ain't building a custom shed for $400
I was hoping the roof was going to be reinforced. My roof caved in, so roof reinforcement is a must.
I would call this shed somewhat of a "fair weather" shed. Warmer climates. It can handle some good rains and modest winds. The roof pitch is not designed for deep snow as well. Snow is very heavy. I don't think a plastic shed is for you.
I'm sorry to hear. Did you have the Lifetime snow kit installed when it caved in?
Figure with this work, you could have custom built a shed with weather wrapping. The work you did looks good quality though.
Good video I'm thinking of getting one of those sheds and I like the reinforcement idea. I will probably just use 4x4's in the corners and frame it similar to the way you did
Hi David. I'm glad you found it helpful. Just a reminder if you use Simpson connectors with the screws (which I recommend) use the smaller diameter ones that will keep your wood from splitting. Also, I think the screws (small diameter ones) are less likely to split your wood than the galvanized nails they also have.
blessings,
jerry
Thank you again. I just bought this model and my pad is being poured this week. I am looking forward to reinforcing like this once it is up. I'm assuming you did not add the snow reinforcement for the roof. I'm curious how well that system works.
This is great and super helpful!! I have a 8x12 that I'm considering doing this same design. One quick question... when attaching to the roof trusses why not just flip those metal brackets around so you wouldn't have to grind it down and you would also be able to easier put in the screws in the wood?
Hi Nathan. Seems to me if the simpson bracket which is L shaped were turned over (long side up) the wall would have to be shorter, which is O.K. but then for the simpson to go all the way against the plastic wall AND against the metal roof truss, you would still have to notch it so it wouldn't stick out over the 2 x 4 wall. Actually, you wouldn't have to notch it at all if you didn't mind it sticking out past the wall. But of course your buddies would ask, "Why is the metal connector sticking out?" HA! Also, once I marked the place for the metal connector to go I actually mounted it securely on the 2x4 on the floor first, then lifted it into place. Thanks for your comments. jerry
Nice!
Amazing Job !!!
Your design is very good. It is very strong and simple to build. You qualify as a good backyard engineer. Thanks for the details. Anyone should be able to follow your design with ease. Thanks.
Love the video! I recently installed this shed and like the way you reinforced it. I plan to do the same thing but without the diving wall. Can you list in detail the exact hardware used for this reinforcement? From the video you did describe in detail some of the hardware (Simpson ties, screws, anchor bolts) but some I would have to guess (bolts to go through the roof frames). How far apart did you space your 2x4's and what did you use for your floor board to set your studs on? It resembles some type of deck composite. Thanks.
Lifetime Shed Reinforcing, Shelves, and a Wall
Super useful tips. Thank you Jerry!
That is a great use of space. I will use your idea once I build my shed next spring.
Well done!
Great job ! & Thanks for the info !
Hi, Jerry Great video. I have had my shed since 2013 and the problem I have is the screws that attach the gable end to the roof panels have ripped out over the years. Lifetime suggested replacing with larger diameter screws, however screws this short are not available larger than the 1/2 inch that they are. plus they will eventually do the same thing again. The shed is already bolted to a concrete pad. Any more permanent solution will appreciated. Like to keep my roof attached. LOL
I'm not sure exactly the problem joint but here are a couple of ideas. You could try using a two part epoxy in the plastic joint. Rough it up as much as possible and force the epoxy in the plastic joint. Go maybe 8 or 10 inches. Along with this or even by itself cut a piece of aluminum or steel maybe 10 inches long that overlaps the joint 2 or 3 inches. Drill maybe 5 holes on each side of joint and place your screws. Now you have 10 screws holding the joint made for 1. Make sure the holes in plastic are fairly small compared to the steel or aluminum to get all the grip you can. If you try using the 2 part epoxy with this make sure all the surfaces are quite rough and clean. If it works my name is jerry if not just call me robert. :>)
So this video is 4 years old
..for those that did this, how does it look now? I have a Lifetime shed and there has been movement over the last 10 years. The walls have popped away from the metal rails. I am planning to build this frame to provide the plastic walls frame strength
This is a great informative video. Question for you, with the way you have it constructed, do you think it is possible to install resistance band hooks to the wall and withstand the use of the resistance bands?
Very nice construction & good ideas to further reinforce the overall structure. Well done & this has given me some good ideas for my project, thanks
Looking at a lifetime shed like this because it was on sale and the price for shelves just seems so expensive . So I was thinking about doing the same thing here . But it’s a shame u have to build a shed inside your shed
Thank you for making & sharing this video! I needed EXACTLY THIS to make some walls in a lifetime shed we use at work. You took ALL the mental work out of it! Thanks a ton!!
Absolutely amazing! I will be buying a lifetime shed for Fathers day and I will be adding the frame that you did to yours, I'm glad you put up this video,. Question though, why is the front top plate at an angle and the back ones level? Did you do that on purpose? Thank you.
Good eye Manny.
I started with the front where the top rail was at an angle. It was much tougher connecting the bolts and the top rail. Therefore I quickly changed to the top rail mounting flat where I described how I mount the metal supports to roof. Only one board was done on an angle. Either would work but the flat method was considerably easier.
Good luck with your project.
jerry
P.S. I didn't mention in the video but my concrete driveway was previously poured and not perfectly level. I debated on pouring a second foundation or another wood foundation. It turned out fine without all the extra work and no one would know unless they are carrying a level.
I would agree. I'm still waiting for my shed to come in, so I'm getting the platform done soon. I cant wait to use your method for reinforcing the shed, thanks again for the video and responding.
I want to know if shed is naturally insulated, waterproo, and wind resistant or do i have to add insulation between the wood frame. I live in rainy, cold seattle.
HOW IS THIS HOLDING UP AFTER THE YEARS?
Glad you asked. Outstanding! No issues what so ever.
I'm glad I went this direction.
jerry
I'm not trying to be a troll but you did a very nice job and I'm not sure why you just didn't build the entire shed yourself, out of wood.
I had a shed up in the exact place made of wood. It lasted 20 years. Eventually dry rot, termites and time took it's toll. This shed looks cool, won't ever need painting. No dry rot or termites. It will die eventually but between now and then shouldn't need any attention.
I plan to do something very similar but I am going to put at least 3 coats of paint on wood. I have old metal shed that rusted and the only real way to protect wood is with paint. Treated wood does not last as long as painted wood. I , too , am in CA and worry about termites. Termites like new wood and don't seem to attack old wood or painted wood.
Man! If all trolls were that nice, the internet wouldn't have a troll problem :)
Use Hardie board lap siding or panels over plywood sheathing/30# felt. I took the old T-11 wood siding off the house and replaced with hardie lap siding. Then two coats of paint. Good stuff.
I just built an 8x15 from this company in 1 day including the treated 2x6 and plywood base. That is the biggest benefit. In total I have about 1500.00 and about 9 hours. If I built the shed I really wanted it would take a month with my work schedule and about 3k and with a contractor probably 4500k+.After seeing in person the way this thing is built I'm not worried about it's longevity either, it will serve it's purpose very well.
Thank you going to do the same for my :)
Fantastic idea and looks neat.. don't you need boards or diagonal braces for lateral strength? Or are you relying on the ties for this?
HI Sumith. I think there is tremendous lateral strength added to the four walls with the large, heavy duty shelves on all three sides all bolted and simpson together. Plus in this case I have a solid wall divider. The plastic Lifetime shell that everything bolts too is immovable as far as lateral movement. Connected together... run for the LifeTime shed in case of earth quake. ;>)
seems like you have almost enough framing to build a real wood shed
Step one build lifetime shed. Step two, build another shed inside the first shed.
Hi Jerry. Did you seal the inside by any chance to prevent leaks?
Hi Jerry, thanks for the video. Curious, I'd like to put this up in Colorado but am concerned about snow load. Code mandates 100 pound/sq ft snow load for any building structures, however, this is at the 120' limit without needing a permit. That said, I'd still like to come back to my property with a shed intact after the winter of not being there as I won't be living there till a few years. How do you think this will hold up to heavy snow loads? I don't think I'd be getting that much snow, but apparently in the 80's it rained, the rain froze, they then got 4 ft of snow followed by sunshine which melted the snow on one side of houses, and the A frame houses I guess didn't hold up, and hence the stricter snow load. I now this is not professional advice, etc., etc. :) Thanks.
Hi Mike,
My opinion is there would probably be no issues on the "perimeter" where all the studs are. Also, probably no issues on the area near the trusses. The problem would be the plastic roof between the trusses. The load that you are talking about would be equel to two grown men standing between the trusses away from the peak. I think there would be serious problems with that type of load. I think you could contact the manufacturer and ask them specifically.
Hope this helps.
jerry
My shed, bought in Canada, came with extra hardware to reinforce the roof trusses for snow loading.
At 6:46 you'll see black vertical pieces of angle iron he put on the wall that (earlier in the video) he claimed were "free". And I noticed his roof panels are missing the support pieces! I have a Suncast plastic shed and they're supposed to go on the roof. However my friend who weighs about 225 was on the roof the other day for about 20 seconds during assembly and it held him just fine before we installed those supports.
A little late now, but for anyone looking in the future, Lifetime sells a kit to increase the roof load capacity from 23 to 30 pounds per square foot.
I just bought a 8 x 10.5 foot lifetime shed (same as yours but shorter) with the intent of it being a solar shed. I am having issues with condensation forming on all metal surfaces (such as batteries). Are you having issues with condensation?
Great video except moving way to fast for me lol
Thank you sir I’ll be trying this out
Jerry, I'm thinking of getting this exact shed but have one thing stopping me. Do you think this type of reinforcement would help against wind? I am east coast US but live in the country where the wind rolls across very flat farmland and through my property so a "gusty" day can crank up to 60-70mph very quickly. I worry about the walls being able to take it as I see new neighbors privacy fencing in pieces regularly.
8 by 15 for $1600?! 5 years later it'stwice the price out of stock
I have 1 thought, 1 question;
My shed is a lifetime 15 x 8, but I also have a door on the shortside. Would I need to run a single 13 foot 2 x 4 to support the front side of the 13 foot shelf ( ill tie in to the 8 foot shelf on the wall on the side opposite the door).
I am also wondering in a 1 x 8 or 10 at the top of the studs & that ties in to the rafter L shaped Simpson tie at the top would be better than a 2 x 4 (extra shelf)?
Thanks
Good question. My shed is the same size but of course I put a wall up on one side. Have you thought of making one side of the shelf say 5 feet wide at the top. Opposite side 2 foot wide. Which give an 8' 2x4 between them. I don't think I would go wider than 10 foot span between shelves. This would give a 2' on one side and opposite would be 3' wide shelf. This would provide lots of shelf space without a support underneath. I think you would be disappointed if you only had a top shelf of 8 or 10 inches in width. Hope this helps. :>)
@@jerrybenson I wasn't clear thats for sure. I intend on running a shelf from left to right in the back, just like you did.
The side door in my shed is on the right side as you enter. On the left side I will put up an 8 foot shelf, with a stud just near the window to the left as you walk in, running to the back wall stud. That shelf will be 16 inches as thats the room between the window and the left side of the shed. Not sure of the height of that shelf yet.
Then, as you did, I will put a shelf on the back wall from the left side to the right side - thats 15 feet in length, and as deep as I can go to tie in at the side door jam on the right side (lets say thats 18 inches from door jam to the back wall).
That front edge of THAT shelf is my concern. Does that need to be a single 13 foot +/- piece of 2 x 4?
The back of that shelf will attach to a 2 x 4 that is secured to the back wall studs - same as you designed.
At the top of the studs, where you use the simpson L bracket to attach to the rafters is where I was thinking of putting a 1 x 8 x 15 or a 1 x 10 x 15 piece of wood - the mini shelf, rather than the 2 x 4 like you used (I may only go 12 feet on that upper piece of wood as well?)
I hope this clears up my plan and question about needing a single 2 x 4 x 13 front edge shelf support.
Thanks for you quick answer tho!
@@tkstravels Sounds like your shed is near identical to mine. On the right side of door hinge is where I would begin your right side shelf with a 2x4 floor to ceiling stud. You could make it as wide as all the way to side door which would be 5 feet or any number in between. That way your 13 foot board would shrink to 8 foot for the front side of the back shelf. The front side of that shelf would go from the far left wall shelf to the beginning of the right side shelf, 8 feet. You could go as long as 10 feet in my opinion. When you open the side door your would see the end of the right side shelf. Depending on how wide you want it. If I didn't have the right side wall I probably would have made the right side shelf wider, say 3 feet. Are you sure you want the 1x8x10? For just a little more money and effort you could have considerable more shelf space. I have used all my shelf space and wouldn't change anything. It's nice having no floor supports in the middle of the shed as well. Hope this helps.
This is a nice job and it surely reinforces the walls but it does not do anything to reinforce the roof trusses, under heavy snow load the roof trusses could still potentially cave in, for heavy snow areas the trusses need to be reinforced mid span
Fortunately Emiio, we don't have that problem in San Diego. Ha!
best wishes,
jerry
My Suncast plastic shed came with half inch angle iron for each roof panel. And I noticed the shed in the video is missing those support pieces! Before we installed our pieces of angle iron the roof was still plenty strong. My friend who weighs about 225 was laying on the roof so I could attach screws underneath, and the roof never bowed.
After the combined cost of the plastic shed and all the materials to make the upgrade you may as well build a wood shed.
The plastic will last longer.and us far more weather resistant.And building the whole shed would take even longer. You have to do a floor ceiling and walls.using the plastic shed as a shell saves alot of time this thing will probably last 100 years
You should have bought a wooden shed at Home Depot, free delivery and installation. Then cover the shed with PLASTIC.🤣
@@magnumzer00For someone to deliver and assemble the same size wood shed it will cost a LOT more money. Shingles go bad over time just like paint and wood. These plastic sheds are the way to go.
Well it’s not quite as expensive as building a wooden shed, but definitely just spent double what the shed alone cost. You paid $1500 for the shed and close to that in wood and hardware!
How did you put the shelves onto the ahed?