I used earth anchors in all 4 corners that go below the gravel base and about two to three feet into natural ground. They are then cabled up and over the metal trusses. So, the metal structure is anchored to the earth. We are in Florida…we’ve had hurricanes and crazy thunderstorms. These types of sheds NEED to be anchored to the ground or to a solid foundation…..period.
Thank you for your advice,,I did by one and I and my husband ,we reforced the same day we assembled because we're I leave is very Wendy so far so good no problem
thank you for watching and giving feedback. While this was our first resin shed of this size, and we realize we could have made it better at the start, we feel the average person should still be warned and learn from our experience. We did have it weighed down inside with perimeter weight. The base never moved and that base is 100% level. It was warped upon unboxing. It pops out of its tabs very easy floor to wall. To our defense in our research we have discovered most people having the same experience and it needs to be framed to stabilize it. With that aside most people are experiencing cracks in the corners of the walls even without incidents. Its a bad design. We still feel people should be aware of all flaws before investing it in. Thanks so much for watching!
Hello thank you for doing this review. Can you tell me what sized lag bolts your husband got and the other small parts to go with it , you said both metal and rubber washers correct? He put that on a bracket not the wood ?
Thank you for watching! We used a combination of lag screws and bolts. All have rubber washers that go on the outside at the bolt and screw heads. We used the following list rubber washers are 5/16x 1.5 x 1/8 the flat metal fender galvanized washers that go on top are also 5/16 we used bolts for corner support brackets and screws for the wood framing. We used 2x3 framing so the screws are 2" and the bolts are 3" because they needed a nut. I hope that makes sense
just bought the Suncast Modernist 7x7 shed. it's sitting on an imperfect (hand tamped) 8x8 gravel stone base and I want to frame the inside. (next time I am building the 2x6 wood base as shown on pg3-4). did you use 1x4, 1x3, or 2x4 to frame the shed? also, what about the footer stud(?) across the bottom?
Thank you for watching! We built out 7x4 on a level paver base. We were concerned the pavers would crumble if we tried to anchor to it so we used earth anchors and tied it off. John framed tge inside with 2x4. But....a better idea for a base and footing can be found in our Playlist for building our greenhouse! That thing hasn't budged! We used 4x4 and 4x6 for that base! We anchored to tge earth with rebar driven in, in opposing directions!
@@ourbackyardgarden... yes, my 8x8 stone pad is contained by pres-trt'd 4x4s w/overlapping joints at the corner. 55 bags of stone (ouch) and it's not exactly level/flat as this/these sheds require. 2' rebar is next in the 4x4s (2/board). ground anchors may follow once I have a frame installed. I will anchor to the wood frame vs any part of the shed.
@@K03sport if you drive the rebar next to each other st opposing angles, your prestrtd won't budge. If you plan to screw your floor to that, and L bracket your walls to th e floor you won't need earth anchors! The weak point is the walls not fully joining to the floor!
I honestly think it's many factors. This type of material warps in extreme heat, which we have. A design flaw is how the bottom floor attaches to side walls with a tab slide system. There needs to be L bracket or equivalent connecting the 2. Even if the bottom is screwed down, if there are any gaps for wind to enter, it won't stay together. The sides must be truly attached to the floor. And it must be flat and level.
Thank you for watching. Same as we said, if you pay attention you can see the base never left the ground. It was properly secured. The walls detached from the base. It's a poor tab design. Many many others have had similar issues. Thank you for your comments though
I think a 2x6 wood base with sheeting floor and 3" header bolts would provide more anchor stability to the shed...that's where I'm at on my 7x7 shed. I just put mine on a hand tamped gravel pad and wish I did the 2x6 base. 😢 live and learn. can't dissemble the shed because the screws destroy the plastic once inserted. looks nice from 10'.
Im curious for that big crack in the corner, have you thought about using a plastic welder to get everything closed again? Then using using some caulk to make sure its sealed? Ive got the 7x7 one with the same problem. It seems to work for me.
Hi Steve thank you for watching. Your comment is a great idea. I never thought of a plastic welder. The cracks at the corners happened immediately and before the storm damage even occurred. At this point the shed is still up but crazy things are happening with it. The doors are curling and the roof is pulling away. I'm accepting it as a bad investment. The next small structure will be properly framed. Maybe another greenhouse instead!
I would have walked away from that product and not purchased it. I have an 11x14 shed built by the Amish and trucked on site. The original owner likely spent at least $7000 on it. All 2x4 construction, real roof, built to code. The doors are large and heavy. This past winter we had two back-to-back storms with heavy winds. One of our neighbors recorded a 93 mph wind gust on his weather station. Each storm ripped the heavy doors right off the shed. I have seen what mother nature can do. Good sheds cost a fair amount of money but need to stand up to extreme weather. New Jersey can get hurricanes and blizzards. If i worked at Craftsman, I would not have even approved releasing that product for sale. I don’t understand why some good companies push out inferior products at low price points for the big box stores. It will only hurt their reputation in the long run. And what’s worse, consumers are generally optimistic and will assume that a product will only be sold if it will serve it’s purpose safely and/or reliably. Unfortunately this is not always the case.
Thank you for commenting. All well said and I agree a million percent. We do get bad storms here. We have a true wood shed, real roof, siding, heavy double doors. It's has sat without a single issue for 10 years. This craftsman was bought, more for easy access, for a small mower for the aviary. Meant for convenience it turned out to be a heartache and bad investment. You're right, we should have walked away. But we thought, ok, it's craftsman it must be good. We already built the level area which we excavated, leveled and paved. Getting the shed home was an ordeal. We we realized right out of the box it was warped terribly we just accepted it. We should have returned it though. It's still standing after the interior framing but it continues to twist and crack. It will go to trash in a few seasons.
Just put this up. I don’t think anchoring the floor will do it as it’s not that secure to the sides. I think we will do as you did and anchor it outside the shed
Yes, the issue is, the floor can be tied down but the walls detach! Even if it's drilled to a deck at least connect the floor and walls with hurricane ties! Good luck!!
Omg the price is getting crazy! I hear you on wishing you never bought it. It could be worth returning it or seriously reinforcing it to avoid future damage from elements.
Oh no.....I totally get the frustration. Ours is still standing but in bad shape. Every corner is separated. This thing was not inexpensive. So sorry you're going through it too.
Dont buy those! I have two 2x2 craftsmans that are very difficult to put together and yes they have warped and the wind did blow both of them apart! They were $250 ea. A yr agom, now they're 300. Ea. DO NOT BUY THEM!
Thank you for watching! The price did go up substantially on resin sheds. And it's a shame because that plastic will live in a landfill forever. I also have the 2x2 and it blew down as well. Since we earth anchored it and tied it off its now stable.
@@ALPHABARN I strongly encourage an L bracket or something of that type to connect the walls to the floor. And earth anchor for a tie off point. Even if the floor is screwed or bolted to a base a good wind will damage it. Good luck!
It's all tied to earth anchors now and the floor is now fully connected to the walls with brackets. Hasn't budged since reinforcement. The real issue isn't the floor being anchored, it's the floor being attached to the walls. It's a bad design
Thanks for sharing. LOL, Wizard of Oz reference… Put some witch feet & socks under one side
Lol I know, when it happened I had that visual 😂
I used earth anchors in all 4 corners that go below the gravel base and about two to three feet into natural ground. They are then cabled up and over the metal trusses. So, the metal structure is anchored to the earth. We are in Florida…we’ve had hurricanes and crazy thunderstorms. These types of sheds NEED to be anchored to the ground or to a solid foundation…..period.
Please use some type of L bracket or hurricane strap to connect the floor to the walls.
You did good.. thank you for the review
Thank you for watching !
Thank you for your advice,,I did by one and I and my husband ,we reforced the same day we assembled because we're I leave is very Wendy so far so good no problem
That's great news!! I hope it holds up well for you! Ours is much better now that we tied it down.
I have the same issue but your idea of adding wood is helpful
@@Ken-o4m framing it out helped. It's hanging on but continues to crack and warp.
Get some spray foam an spray anywhere you see light when inside. May help with waterproofing.
Thank you!!
Needed to be secured to the slab/ foundation . Installer error .
thank you for watching and giving feedback. While this was our first resin shed of this size, and we realize we could have made it better at the start, we feel the average person should still be warned and learn from our experience. We did have it weighed down inside with perimeter weight. The base never moved and that base is 100% level. It was warped upon unboxing. It pops out of its tabs very easy floor to wall. To our defense in our research we have discovered most people having the same experience and it needs to be framed to stabilize it. With that aside most people are experiencing cracks in the corners of the walls even without incidents. Its a bad design. We still feel people should be aware of all flaws before investing it in. Thanks so much for watching!
Not according to instructions. They're suppose to just go into the slots.
Once you add items inside it should be secure but if you will only store small items better secure it to the ground
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I purchased mine at one of the major big box store last year and haven’t had any problems. Sorry you experienced that issue.
Thank you for watching! I'm happy to hear good reviews it keeps me encouraged!
Thank u for the review
Thanks for watching and stay tuned for part 2!!! Happy new year!
I think there is a racket going on shipping those things , some are reasonably priced but double in price due to shipping cost .
@@TheYeti308agreed
Hello thank you for doing this review. Can you tell me what sized lag bolts your husband got and the other small parts to go with it , you said both metal and rubber washers correct? He put that on a bracket not the wood ?
Thank you for watching! We used a combination of lag screws and bolts. All have rubber washers that go on the outside at the bolt and screw heads. We used the following list rubber washers are 5/16x 1.5 x 1/8 the flat metal fender galvanized washers that go on top are also 5/16 we used bolts for corner support brackets and screws for the wood framing. We used 2x3 framing so the screws are 2" and the bolts are 3" because they needed a nut. I hope that makes sense
Thank you.
I hope it helped!
The instructions clearly state the shed must be square.
It was
The instructions clearly state that the shed must be SQUARED and GROUNDED, being you must secure the shed base to the ground.
It was and is. The ussue is the tab system failed. The base never moved in this incident. Many people have had this happen.
just bought the Suncast Modernist 7x7 shed. it's sitting on an imperfect (hand tamped) 8x8 gravel stone base and I want to frame the inside. (next time I am building the 2x6 wood base as shown on pg3-4). did you use 1x4, 1x3, or 2x4 to frame the shed? also, what about the footer stud(?) across the bottom?
Thank you for watching! We built out 7x4 on a level paver base. We were concerned the pavers would crumble if we tried to anchor to it so we used earth anchors and tied it off. John framed tge inside with 2x4. But....a better idea for a base and footing can be found in our Playlist for building our greenhouse! That thing hasn't budged! We used 4x4 and 4x6 for that base! We anchored to tge earth with rebar driven in, in opposing directions!
@@ourbackyardgarden... yes, my 8x8 stone pad is contained by pres-trt'd 4x4s w/overlapping joints at the corner. 55 bags of stone (ouch) and it's not exactly level/flat as this/these sheds require. 2' rebar is next in the 4x4s (2/board). ground anchors may follow once I have a frame installed. I will anchor to the wood frame vs any part of the shed.
@@K03sport if you drive the rebar next to each other st opposing angles, your prestrtd won't budge. If you plan to screw your floor to that, and L bracket your walls to th e floor you won't need earth anchors! The weak point is the walls not fully joining to the floor!
I know some other people who used some different brands did that ok for years. I wonder if the problem is this particular brand?
I honestly think it's many factors. This type of material warps in extreme heat, which we have. A design flaw is how the bottom floor attaches to side walls with a tab slide system. There needs to be L bracket or equivalent connecting the 2. Even if the bottom is screwed down, if there are any gaps for wind to enter, it won't stay together. The sides must be truly attached to the floor. And it must be flat and level.
Same as others have said. You didn't know to fasten the thing to the ground?
Thank you for watching. Same as we said, if you pay attention you can see the base never left the ground. It was properly secured. The walls detached from the base. It's a poor tab design. Many many others have had similar issues. Thank you for your comments though
Darn if it was more wind resistant I think it could be a nice budget shed!
Hi! Thanks for watching! Yes it definitely has its pros and cons.
I think a 2x6 wood base with sheeting floor and 3" header bolts would provide more anchor stability to the shed...that's where I'm at on my 7x7 shed. I just put mine on a hand tamped gravel pad and wish I did the 2x6 base. 😢 live and learn. can't dissemble the shed because the screws destroy the plastic once inserted. looks nice from 10'.
@@K03sport good idea. The sides still need to be permanently connected to the floor because of the poor tab design connections.
@@ourbackyardgarden... agree. now I'm researching the way to frame the shed on 3 sides and run a header over the door to keep it square ⬜
Im curious for that big crack in the corner, have you thought about using a plastic welder to get everything closed again? Then using using some caulk to make sure its sealed? Ive got the 7x7 one with the same problem. It seems to work for me.
Hi Steve thank you for watching. Your comment is a great idea. I never thought of a plastic welder. The cracks at the corners happened immediately and before the storm damage even occurred. At this point the shed is still up but crazy things are happening with it. The doors are curling and the roof is pulling away. I'm accepting it as a bad investment. The next small structure will be properly framed. Maybe another greenhouse instead!
I would have walked away from that product and not purchased it. I have an 11x14 shed built by the Amish and trucked on site. The original owner likely spent at least $7000 on it. All 2x4 construction, real roof, built to code. The doors are large and heavy.
This past winter we had two back-to-back storms with heavy winds. One of our neighbors recorded a 93 mph wind gust on his weather station. Each storm ripped the heavy doors right off the shed. I have seen what mother nature can do. Good sheds cost a fair amount of money but need to stand up to extreme weather. New Jersey can get hurricanes and blizzards. If i worked at Craftsman, I would not have even approved releasing that product for sale.
I don’t understand why some good companies push out inferior products at low price points for the big box stores. It will only hurt their reputation in the long run. And what’s worse, consumers are generally optimistic and will assume that a product will only be sold if it will serve it’s purpose safely and/or reliably. Unfortunately this is not always the case.
Thank you for commenting. All well said and I agree a million percent. We do get bad storms here. We have a true wood shed, real roof, siding, heavy double doors. It's has sat without a single issue for 10 years. This craftsman was bought, more for easy access, for a small mower for the aviary. Meant for convenience it turned out to be a heartache and bad investment. You're right, we should have walked away. But we thought, ok, it's craftsman it must be good. We already built the level area which we excavated, leveled and paved. Getting the shed home was an ordeal. We we realized right out of the box it was warped terribly we just accepted it. We should have returned it though. It's still standing after the interior framing but it continues to twist and crack. It will go to trash in a few seasons.
lol..... sorry to hear that but a brick home couldn't stop a Hurricane or tornado much less a little Plastic storage..
Thanks for watching!
They should really warn you to anchor it. Then I wonder what the wind rating is on it.
I agree. And also to actually attach the walls to the floor. Over the last year since we reinforced it, it has stayed put. But it has warped badly.
Just put this up. I don’t think anchoring the floor will do it as it’s not that secure to the sides. I think we will do as you did and anchor it outside the shed
Yes, the issue is, the floor can be tied down but the walls detach! Even if it's drilled to a deck at least connect the floor and walls with hurricane ties! Good luck!!
Thank u Karen
I don't take offense to the term. But people who use it have psychological issues. This says a lot about YOU!
$500? I just paid $1,200 for a very similar one and it was a nightmare to install. Wish I would nave never bought it.
Omg the price is getting crazy! I hear you on wishing you never bought it. It could be worth returning it or seriously reinforcing it to avoid future damage from elements.
My shed fell apart also. It is currently held together by ratchet straps. The hinges rotted and the doors came apart from the front.
Oh no.....I totally get the frustration. Ours is still standing but in bad shape. Every corner is separated. This thing was not inexpensive. So sorry you're going through it too.
This shed for me is a Nightmare.
I have 1 and it only Last for 4 months
I agree it's a major regret. I'm sorry you had a bad experience too.
Dont buy those! I have two 2x2 craftsmans that are very difficult to put together and yes they have warped and the wind did blow both of them apart! They were $250 ea. A yr agom, now they're 300. Ea. DO NOT BUY THEM!
Thank you for watching! The price did go up substantially on resin sheds. And it's a shame because that plastic will live in a landfill forever. I also have the 2x2 and it blew down as well. Since we earth anchored it and tied it off its now stable.
Looks like you installed incorrectly
Actually what happened was, we installed it properly but the connector tabs are inferior, so the walls separate from the floor. It's a poor design.
@@ourbackyardgardenany way to avoid this? Having same issues where certain connector tabs don't sit properly
@@ALPHABARN I strongly encourage an L bracket or something of that type to connect the walls to the floor. And earth anchor for a tie off point. Even if the floor is screwed or bolted to a base a good wind will damage it. Good luck!
Those sheds need to be anchored to a concret slab, it's going to go for another flight sitting on those path way tiles.
It's all tied to earth anchors now and the floor is now fully connected to the walls with brackets. Hasn't budged since reinforcement. The real issue isn't the floor being anchored, it's the floor being attached to the walls. It's a bad design