You're a semi amateur RUclips Historian. I don't think you should be expected to get pronunciation of foreign words correct. The content you produce is amazing , do not be too hard on yourself friend. Keep up the amazing work as always!
@@ezprism2800 Although it's worth pointing out that Tokyo (東京 or "Eastern Capital") was named so not in geographical relation to the two Chinese capitals but its own Japanese predecessor, the city of Kyoto (京都 or simply "the capital city") to the West of it.
@@Crazytechnition No it used to be London. It is London in fact, then London city because only in the 19th century did London city grow, then London city became so large it was stupid calling it london city still which is why they took London out of the name since London now is everything. If you are living anywhere in London right now that isn't the city it is in fact, not London. Just London countryside.
@@Locutus Yeah but not too many are nicknamed "City" in every language. Constantinupole was one because of so may failed attempts to conquer it, along with its legendary treasures. Literally every nation in Medievil times made their effort in sieging it.
Now that think about it, it would actually quickly lead to turks giving in if the world would unite on that. The city would quickly run out of supplies if they didn't deliver XD
Turks: "you refer to Constantinople as 'the city' right?" Greeks: "yup" Turks: "In greek 'Istinpolin' means 'the city' right" Greeks: "yup" Turks: "'istanbul' is simply a turk variation of the term" Greeks: "makes sense to me" Turks: "Then it's Istanbul" Greeks: "It's Constantinople"
@@Gun_Metal_Grey what is nationalism? Define it and I will te you if you are right or if it is more right to still want to call our conquered capital by its name. Do you give us the right to call our conquered capital by its name? Or if someone conquers Athens and throws us out and changes name to Seattle we also have to call it Sesttle?
@@kayyumamcaoglu8671 According to Wikipedia the Turkish pronunciation is [ˈaŋkaɾa] but reading the Wikipedia page on Turkish phonology it seems like it possibly should be [ˈäŋkäɾä] or [ˈɑŋkɑɾɑ]. The Finnish pronunciation is [ˈɑŋkɑrɑ]. Basically, the differences are that in Finnish the letter 'R' is a trill (i.e. [r]) whereas in Turkish it's a tap (i.e. [ɾ]) and that the vowel 'A' might be different. In Finnish, the vowel is clearly a back vowel but in Turkish it might be back, central, or front. The Turkish vowel is a bit uncertain to me since Wikipedia gives a bit of contradictory information and I can't figure that out since I'm not a phonetician.
"Which is why most nations officially refer to the city as Istanbul now... Except for the Greeks." Ah, yes. The Greco-Turkish tradition of arguing, fighting, or having a dispute in some other way.
Or not its beacuse its easier to call it constantinople in greek rather than istanbul bc constantinople is one word while istanbul in greek means: to the city which isnt a name and it is 3 words
It is true, and it's mostly likely because of Pakistan supporting Azerbaijan in their fight against Armenia for territory called "Nagorno-Karabakh". That's all you can get from me. Btw, did you know that there are countries which didn't recognize, or establish diplomatic relations with some Ex-Yu countries, like Croatia and Montenegro?
@@SergeantPsycho I was here closer to when the video launched, there were a lot of early birds doing variations on this, they just haven't been voted up as much. If RUclips let you sort by oldest comment, you'd see what I meant.
I really hate hearing that "Turks/Ottomans captured Constantinople in 1453 and changed its name to Istanbul" in all the stupid decumentaries. Finally there is someone who correct this Ignorance makes me triggered
just changed to its Arabic counterpart of Konstantiniyye (aka Constantinople). I often find it humorous when I'm talking to fellow Turks who have no knowledge of the matter and think it was officially named Istanbul after Mehmed the Conqueror captured the city.
@Thomas de Boer It was never given to the Duke of York by the Dutch, the english never gave a fuck about the fact that the Dutch ahd already laid claim upon parts of the land the Duke claimed...
@Thomas de Boer Fun fact: every gal in Constantinople lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople. So if you've got a date in Constantinople she'll be waiting in Istanbul.
@@TheFedGuy When Wessex subjugated the last rivaling Anglo Saxon kingdoms. Kings of Wessex were also crowned "King of the Anglo Saxons" a bit before then (I think), but that seems more like posturing to me.
@@dasmensh Ok. I if you want a more exhaustive explanation: there was a Germanic people who invaded Gaul named the Franks, they gave the name "France" and became a ruling minority. After centuries, the name "franks" was used to call everyone who lived in France, noble or not.
Medieval Greek phrase "To the City" (Is tin Poli) became the modern Turkish name of Constantinople (Istanbul). However, in modern greek there still are cases: nominative, accusative, genitive etc. Also "Is" of "Is tin Poli/Istanbul" is a preposition in greek meaning "to". So, it's really weird for modern greek speakers to use a preposition plus accusative case, when they only need nominative, genitive etc. case. So, in modern greek Constantinople/Istanbul is Konstantinoupoli (the city of Constantinus) or just Poli (the City). When somebody says in greek that he/she is "from the City" (apo tin Poli), greek speakers understand that he/she is from Constantinople/Istanbul.
fuss is on the fact the turks named the city as they were all around the territory, no matter the origin of the word. The greeks cannot suffer the fact that the city became turkish. The name was just 1 of the many arguments they have daily on minor matters.
Ironically that the founder of Constantinople and his last ruler were called Constantine. Like the founder and last ruler of Rome, were called Romulus The same thing was with Russia , which is usually called "the third Rome " or "the second Constantinople" because of the Orthodox religion . First russian tsar of Romanov dinasty was called Michael 1 and the last russian emperor and ruler of Romanov dinasty also was called Michael (who oficially ruled only 1 day after abdication of Nicholas 2)
the last ruler of Rome was called Romulus Augustus (-lus added posthumously), which is even more ironic b/c Augustus was the founder of the Roman Empire.
Thank you for the good summary! I can also add that the form Islambul/Islambol (undistinguished in the old script) which you showed in the video and which sometimes appears in Ottoman documents means 'find Islam' and 'Islam is plentiful [there]', respectively. It's doubtful that anybody ever pronounced the name of the city that way; rather, it was just a fanciful way of writing it by pious people. Also, in some European documents from the 19th century there seems to be a distinction between Istanbul and Constantinople, with the former used to refer to the historical peninsula that was the center of the city (and having a greater concentration of Muslims) and the latter to the city as a whole, with surrounding districts like Galata and Üsküdar being included. This distinction wasn't standardized or widespread, but perhaps it reflects the fact that Istanbul had become the more common name among Muslim inhabitants by that point.
Many Islamist make false beliefs that "Islambol" was the official city name through Ottoman times, and "Istanbul" is just Turkish secular-nationalist creation.
I live in Beylikdüzü Istanbul and trust me, I have seen many other cities. That are more religious and Islam oriented compared to Istanbul. I read a very interesting perspective. If the Holy Prophet peace and blessings be upon Him called the city Konstuntuniya (Constantinople ) then that's what it should be called. The change of name is to force Muslims, especially Turks to forget that the city will be liberated in the End Times
@@Iason29 I don't think that is necessarily true. More like Russia was revoluting and getting itself into communism and US needs an ally who can embargo USSR and keep their weapon on USSR's doorstep.
@Finger Boi now, repeat with me. 🎵assume everything in the internet is a joke until proven serious, People are nationalistic of countries that dont exist but arent quite delirious🎵
The word Istanbul can’t be conjugated in Greek, its prononciation is unnatural in the Greek language and it symbolizes the turkification of Greek and Roman legacy. The closest we could call it is “Poli”, which literally drops the Constantine part from Constantinople so I don’t see the problem with calling it that.
You know it's ironic that almost no one ever called Constantinople/Istanbul by it's first official name, that is New Rome. Yep, that was official name during the entire Byzantine/Eastern Roman period! It really talks about how Constantine didn't had any imagination with naming things. I mean just look up how he named his children, it's hilarious.
Yes, and he was the second last emperor to rule a united empire ( the last being Theodosius ). And his reign was the last period of glory for the whole Roman Empire. Maybe not a lot of imagination for names, but by far one of the most important emperors of Rome !
technically there were 4 other guys after him to rule the whole empire. His son constantius II, his half-nephew Julian, a random general named Jovian and Theodosius. They all had quite short reigns so it really doesn't matter Constantine might as well be the last emperor to rule the whole empire
Greek commoners also didn't call the city constantinople or constantinopolis cause you know who the hell has time for that. that '''to the city'' greek word is the real source o the name which was the common use.
I've always found it bemusing that we don't always refer to places by the names that the inhabitants use. I can understand when it's a translation (Nederland in Dutch, meaning the exact same thing as Netherlands in English and Pays-bas in French) but sometimes it's the equivalent of introducing yourself to your neighbours as "Dave", but they then call you "Bobbington Steve-John the Third", because that's what the person who lived at your address 100 years ago was called. Deutschland... Founded in recent history, so no excuse about old languages... Except it's Germany if you're English, Allemagne if you're French. Because of old languages. Letzebuerg if you live there... but according to everyone who doesn't live there it's called some variation of "Luxembourg". Capital of the UK is London... except lots of other languages say "Lon" then go off on a tangent. Don't even start on the clusterfudge that is "use of the name Macedonia".
"Except for the Greeks". Makes sense. Ty for finally answering this heartfelt question since I've heard both that it came to be in 1453 and in 1923 and I was confused
its impossible to be changed in 1923. Think about it dude,you conquered a city from someone and the city's name means " from who did you conquered's city" and would you leave it? Its pretty illogical, especially when you are a muslim turkish and you conquered from a christian.
It's turkish butchery of a greek name. Also to greeks, it's not "THE City" anymore. It used to be their capital and biggest city. Now it's just some foreign city.
@@lunakoala5053 no no, its not just some foreign city, it still is the City. greeks still have a feeling of familiarity with it, although it doesn't belong to us.
@@dimk735 just like western tracia and north iraq(also most of the National Pact (Misak-ı Milli)) But we know they are no more our territories and saying it won't give them back. Btw all countries has some territories like that,
@@bravebeatt2760 eh, I doth understand exactly what you are talking about but thrace was a Greek territory for a couple of millenia. so no, western thrace historically belongs to us.
It was actually, the Crusaders sacked the city in 1204 and it never recovered. In 1453 it still held more than a month against an overwhelming force with bombards, full control of the surrounding area and endless supplis.
@UCR4P105MknmJhAsVnlIVfHA Bruh why so mad? Turks conquered İstanbul twice with the second time being without any fights while Greeks couldn't even hold İzmir. Recognize and accept success rather than being a sour bitch about it. You'll at least look like smart than. Emphasis on "at least look like".
As a Greek I must say…. We call it Constantinople fallowing the ancient tradition in the Balkans of making disputes out of nothing. It’s the small things in life that makes it fun.
1:52 turkish capital at the time was(and still is)ankara 1:15 at the time istanbul had many names and none of the names was widely accepted some used istinpolin some used stanbul some even used şehr-i devriye 1:42 he did it in 1930
@@luket.9113 Cause the republic distanced itself from the empire. And Ankara was the heartland of turkish war of independence. It was almost at the center of turkey, even tho its in anatolia roads and railways were centeralised and probably the biggest city that wasnt occupied in that time. If Ankara was not chosen for capital, it could be İzmir (or smyrna i dunno which one you want to choose) but city was occupied by greeks
@@luket.9113 There are several reasons. 1) A lot more defensible since it doesn't have a sea that can let an invading navy in. 2) The resistance against the Sultan/Independence movement was based more in Anatolia and Ankara had useful rail and communication lines so it made sense to put the first parliament there. 3) Similar to how changing into İstanbul was about making a clear distinction between the old and the new order, moving the capital also showed very clearly that the new republic was different from what was before. Also don't forget that the last sultan and the royal family was still in Istanbul and they stayed there for some time even after the declaration of the republic. The old order could have slowly taken over if the government was still located in the exact same place.
Still weird that the people who pay the most in patreon never comment, never even read the comments. It's fucking bizarre, not responding to your own celebrity status.
Excellent! I knew that "Istanbul" derived from the Greek meaning "(to) the city" but the fuller explanation of the evolution of the name is very clarifying. Thanks, HM!
@@sail2byzantium what you say is nonsense. Rums converted to Greek by brainwashing and indoctrination. Aristo's language is a foreign lang to a Rum. Though they produce silly arguments for this too. If you not existwho will sell europeannes and democrasy to other people as a asian origin rum.
@@eget4144 If they are living in turkey we call them rum, if they are living in greece we call them yunan. What i just said is mostly a "rule of thumb", sometimes greeks living in greece are called rum sometimes greeks living in turkey are called yunan but it's best not to confuse the people who know that greeks are called yunan in turkish.
We still call Thessaloniki "Selanik," Alexandroupoli as "Dedeağaç," Bitola as "Manastır" even though they are not part of Turkey anymore. So a Greek can call Istanbul Constantinople or Edirne Adrianople, I have no problems with it. Fighting over names in the 21st century is silly.
Agreed but want to say that Selanik is turkificated pronounciation of Thessaloniki so its not the name change. But for Alexandroupoli or Bitola, its totally true.
@@bthn5102 If you really do want a word purely of Turkic/sh roots merhaba and selam wouldn't count either, but they work of course, as they are the most common ones and have become a part of Turkish. If you want to use an original Turkic word you can try "Esenlikler", nobody really uses it in daily life, it is mostly used by nationalists
@@meganoobbg3387 okay but that may have been different if it became a Roman capital. Still, Byzantion was the perfect location for the center of the Western world
It would have fallen to the Bulgarian Empire (the first one) instead of the Ottomans many centuries later. The fourth crusade would have probably gone much differently though.
@@joermnyc It probably would never fall to bulgarians as it would be the best defended city. Probably surrounding areas would be well defended as well. So bulgaria might not exist/be in a different place in this universe.
Even though a lot was left out of this video (although Istanbul's entire history isn't really relative to the name change) I still learned a lot from this video about the mechanisms involved in naming the city. Multiple sources matters!
@DeeZ Almonds i doubt that, u have to look at where nato is investing ;). for example look at Ukraine / russia war u would say russia win but they arent. Nato has been investing big times into greece last few years. im pretty sure Greece has the upper hand, tho in reality like it or not. not to mention turkey is pretty much bankrupt they cant even afford a thing. anyway war aint gonna happen since they both are NATO. greeks have no problems with turks nor do turks with greeks. its just politics idiots who keep dumping little oil on the fire. i mean im married to a greek and she does things i cant understand (im not greek far from a greek so culture differences) when i ask some of my friends (turks) they understand her perfectly fine and agree with her. (no im not a turk either ;)) turks and greeks are really close to each other in the way of doing things like it or not.
@deezalmonds7680the armed forces that ruled asia minor for 3,5 years, was the population of greece bigger than ottoman empire back then? No you were simply weaker and we took the opportunity, dont rely on numbers we were always fewer than you
Did you know there is a city called "Constantine" in Algeria, it's full of Bridges. Look it up, it has something to do with Constantinople historically.
@@brandonlyon730I guess it's different cultures, but in Croatia, subtitling movies and series is a normal standard and is quite common. I think if the actors spoke in their native languages, performance would be much more believable (or the producers could simply find American or British actors). Also, does subtitling really hinder enjoying shows for you?
I'm pretty sure there was a period when it was called Stamboul in England at least. I know Graham Greene wrote a book called Stamboul Train in the '30s, and I think I remember it being called that a couple of times in Murder on the Orient Express as well.
1:50 “He asked all of the nations to respect this change and start calling the Turkish capital, Istanbul, from then on”. At this time point, the Turkish capital was not Istanbul anymore but Ankara, which is still the case. Istanbul is not a capital city since the Ottoman sultanate was abolished and the Turkish Republic was established.
@Star Star sorry bro, but most of the turks dont know a shit about history. They dont know that ataturk never had election. People never voted for him. He just had 1 election and that was among his friends. He didnt let anyone vote except his friends. And that was just one time. He was dictator with no doubt.
Can we appreciate how smooth and accurate the transition of maps was from Eastern Rome (Byzantium), to the different stages of the Ottoman Empire and the European maps from world war to world war?
@@fuseydunae397 well it's not your job to choose name to city that we own and i live. If you don't live Islambol, then you will find constantinople cooler... (Islambol means a lot of faith )
I find it disappointing that you skipped over an important reason the name was changed: There was a folk etymology that claimed the Istanbul was from "islambol" or "Islam bul", both religious phrases in Arabic. It was wrong, but probably a primary driver enforcing the name change. They could use this myth to justify that it was a nationalistic act.
I can relate to the Konstantiniyye-Istanbul situation. Most locals where I come from don't use the offical name for the town, instead they simply refer to it as "the Place". I don't think it could be renamed though. That wouldn't go over well.
Istinpoli = Stampolis = Istanbul is also a Greek name. 😁 Any city name ending with “bul, bol, bolu” is Greek name given for cities in Anatolia which is called Turkey after 1923. Bolu: Poli Gelibolu: Gallipoli Inebolu Safranbolu (Safron city) Tirebolu and many more! (Search and find more)
I would like to apologies to the Greek people for butchering their language. I was relying on 13 year old GCSE Ancient Greek so I again, sorry.
No problem
(so you have chosen death...Just joking heh...
Am I?)
I always wondered why the used different bombs for Hiroshima and Nagasaki
@@AkaMadem yes
Wait, they taught Ancient Greek at GCSE back then?
You're a semi amateur RUclips Historian. I don't think you should be expected to get pronunciation of foreign words correct. The content you produce is amazing , do not be too hard on yourself friend. Keep up the amazing work as always!
When your city is literally called THE CITY
Oh yes, in Greek history books it is ofter referred to as "City" with capital C
Tbf, London is called “the city” too.
@@ezprism2800 Although it's worth pointing out that Tokyo (東京 or "Eastern Capital") was named so not in geographical relation to the two Chinese capitals but its own Japanese predecessor, the city of Kyoto (京都 or simply "the capital city") to the West of it.
@@Crazytechnition No it used to be London. It is London in fact, then London city because only in the 19th century did London city grow, then London city became so large it was stupid calling it london city still which is why they took London out of the name since London now is everything. If you are living anywhere in London right now that isn't the city it is in fact, not London. Just London countryside.
@@Locutus Yeah but not too many are nicknamed "City" in every language. Constantinupole was one because of so may failed attempts to conquer it, along with its legendary treasures. Literally every nation in Medievil times made their effort in sieging it.
World: We're gonna call it Constantinople.
Turks: So you have chosen no mail delivery.
Now that think about it, it would actually quickly lead to turks giving in if the world would unite on that. The city would quickly run out of supplies if they didn't deliver XD
@@Ianassa91 The most shittiest thing I've seen.
@@Ianassa91 10/10 best reason to sanction
@marios gianopoulos you're too lazy to write a letter
@@Ianassa91 it’s 2020 , stop living in the past, get over it
Turks: "you refer to Constantinople as 'the city' right?"
Greeks: "yup"
Turks: "In greek 'Istinpolin' means 'the city' right"
Greeks: "yup"
Turks: "'istanbul' is simply a turk variation of the term"
Greeks: "makes sense to me"
Turks: "Then it's Istanbul"
Greeks: "It's Constantinople"
Greek nationalists in a nutshell.
It was actually Islambol, until the Turks decided it'd be more turkish after ww1 and the republic of turkey was founded to be called ISTANBUL.
@@trying1407 Islambol?? That's a new one.
@@napabilirim not new, older than istanbul, Konstantiniyye was the used term for most of the Ottoman Empires life though
@@Gun_Metal_Grey what is nationalism? Define it and I will te you if you are right or if it is more right to still want to call our conquered capital by its name. Do you give us the right to call our conquered capital by its name? Or if someone conquers Athens and throws us out and changes name to Seattle we also have to call it Sesttle?
1:50 "start calling the Turkish capital Istanbul"
Ankara starts crying
@@jokuvaan5175 Is it pronounced like the Turkish one as well?
@@kayyumamcaoglu8671 According to Wikipedia the Turkish pronunciation is [ˈaŋkaɾa] but reading the Wikipedia page on Turkish phonology it seems like it possibly should be [ˈäŋkäɾä] or [ˈɑŋkɑɾɑ]. The Finnish pronunciation is [ˈɑŋkɑrɑ].
Basically, the differences are that in Finnish the letter 'R' is a trill (i.e. [r]) whereas in Turkish it's a tap (i.e. [ɾ]) and that the vowel 'A' might be different. In Finnish, the vowel is clearly a back vowel but in Turkish it might be back, central, or front. The Turkish vowel is a bit uncertain to me since Wikipedia gives a bit of contradictory information and I can't figure that out since I'm not a phonetician.
@@bahadrbaserkok3335 it's a Hittite name
Istanbul was the capital until October 1923.
Ankara is the capital..
some say the city was also called bisanettium, named after the rich roman aristocrat jaminus bisanettine
LMFAOOO
This is the comment I was looking for. Bravo!
The Latin equivalent of James is Iacobus. Iacobus Bisanettus.
The best comment ever on this channel, hahaha
Genius
2:08 ‘Istanbul not Constantinople’
Some American bois in 1953: “That’s a great idea for a song.”
American boi(me): It’s also a really great song
Wait what?
actually that song funded by turkish goverment
@@emirilebassalm2674 no
@@kasadam85 yes
Any place: changes it’s name.
Europe: how about no.
Usa: cheers I’ll drink to that!
USA: Good for you! Who are you again?
Like our new NATO brothers in North Macedonia lol
Iran: we're Iran now
Europe: no
US: ok
UK: *N O*
@@KingAgniKai us was like NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO in that one
Especially Greece. Boy are they anal about the names of places.
“Except for the Greeks.”
That made me laugh.
Only the Greeks matter though
"Which is why most nations officially refer to the city as Istanbul now... Except for the Greeks." Ah, yes. The Greco-Turkish tradition of arguing, fighting, or having a dispute in some other way.
It's good that they recognize the real name of "Istanbul"
Or not its beacuse its easier to call it constantinople in greek rather than istanbul bc constantinople is one word while istanbul in greek means: to the city which isnt a name and it is 3 words
It's a general Balkan tradition, mindlessly bicker with a Balkan country until you start agreeing that there is someone worse and then start all over
Antonis Antoniou Technically isn’t it two words; “Constantine’s city?”
Don't forget about the Aegean Sea or Cyprus
"If you've got a date in Constantinople, she'll be waiting in Istanbul"
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam ....
Pining for the fjords why they changed it I can’t say
@@c0llegeboard439 People just liked it better that way
So take me back to Constantinople.
🎵 istanbul was constantinople/now its istanbul not constantinople 🎵
The world: "It's Constantinople"
Turkey: *You have lost your mail delivery privileges*
Next up why isn’t Armenia recognised by Pakistan.
Wait what?
@@trtyuiop yep
Easy question: Look up Karabakh war
It is true, and it's mostly likely because of Pakistan supporting Azerbaijan in their fight against Armenia for territory called "Nagorno-Karabakh". That's all you can get from me.
Btw, did you know that there are countries which didn't recognize, or establish diplomatic relations with some Ex-Yu countries, like Croatia and Montenegro?
@@seriesmovies4195 Thank god someone who adresses things objectively rather then biased
"Why'd they change it, I can't say..."
"Guess they liked it better that way"
Cuz it's Istanbul not Constantinople
I'm surprised I had to go this far down in the comments to find this reference.
It's "People just like it better that way."
@@SergeantPsycho I was here closer to when the video launched, there were a lot of early birds doing variations on this, they just haven't been voted up as much. If RUclips let you sort by oldest comment, you'd see what I meant.
*It's nobody's business but the Turks*
I really hate hearing that "Turks/Ottomans captured Constantinople in 1453 and changed its name to Istanbul" in all the stupid decumentaries. Finally there is someone who correct this
Ignorance makes me triggered
Is was officially called Istanbul in 1923, not 1453.
Its called konstantiyye( i dont know its something like that ) in 1453
Costantiniyye was general name in Islamic Word before 1453 Conquest. There is no name changing.
just changed to its Arabic counterpart of Konstantiniyye (aka Constantinople). I often find it humorous when I'm talking to fellow Turks who have no knowledge of the matter and think it was officially named Istanbul after Mehmed the Conqueror captured the city.
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it? I can’t say
@Thomas de Boer It was never given to the Duke of York by the Dutch, the english never gave a fuck about the fact that the Dutch ahd already laid claim upon parts of the land the Duke claimed...
@Thomas de Boer Fun fact: every gal in Constantinople lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople. So if you've got a date in Constantinople she'll be waiting in Istanbul.
@@JBGR111 People just liked it better that way!
@@JBGR111 people just liked it better that way
When did franks, became french ?
When did Rus’,became Russian?
@@PokerGrind02 French are all but celtic
They are a melting pot of franks Romans and normans
@@TheFedGuy When Wessex subjugated the last rivaling Anglo Saxon kingdoms. Kings of Wessex were also crowned "King of the Anglo Saxons" a bit before then (I think), but that seems more like posturing to me.
Ömer Faruk AL iyi tuttu ha yorum :)))
@@dasmensh Ok. I if you want a more exhaustive explanation: there was a Germanic people who invaded Gaul named the Franks, they gave the name "France" and became a ruling minority. After centuries, the name "franks" was used to call everyone who lived in France, noble or not.
Medieval Greek phrase "To the City" (Is tin Poli) became the modern Turkish name of Constantinople (Istanbul). However, in modern greek there still are cases: nominative, accusative, genitive etc. Also "Is" of "Is tin Poli/Istanbul" is a preposition in greek meaning "to". So, it's really weird for modern greek speakers to use a preposition plus accusative case, when they only need nominative, genitive etc. case.
So, in modern greek Constantinople/Istanbul is Konstantinoupoli (the city of Constantinus) or just Poli (the City). When somebody says in greek that he/she is "from the City" (apo tin Poli), greek speakers understand that he/she is from Constantinople/Istanbul.
“Where are you headed, traveler?”
“To the city!” (Εις την πολιν!)
Istinpolin-Istanbul
True
So the name is still Greek I don't know what all the fuss is about :p
@@geertbeerens826 there is nothing wrong with that
fuss is on the fact the turks named the city as they were all around the territory, no matter the origin of the word. The greeks cannot suffer the fact that the city became turkish. The name was just 1 of the many arguments they have daily on minor matters.
Maybe because it was turkified? Might as well call it istinpolis.
Ironically that the founder of Constantinople and his last ruler were called Constantine.
Like the founder and last ruler of Rome, were called Romulus
The same thing was with Russia , which is usually called "the third Rome " or "the second Constantinople" because of the Orthodox religion .
First russian tsar of Romanov dinasty was called Michael 1 and the last russian emperor and ruler of Romanov dinasty also was called Michael (who oficially ruled only 1 day after abdication of Nicholas 2)
the last ruler of Rome was called Romulus Augustus (-lus added posthumously), which is even more ironic b/c Augustus was the founder of the Roman Empire.
Српски патриота why not? If Italians and Greeks decide to remake Rome I would support them, they are the heirs after all.
Edit: Greek not Greens.
Српски патриота Well done. I am glad you have pride. Just as I do in my roman ancestors. I did not mean that, but I’m glad you stood up for yourself.
I think the Russian Tsars all alternated from bald to hairy, continuing even to today's President Putin!
well nope russia was called third rome because they had an mariage with teodoro wich was part of the byzantine empire. sort of
Thank you for the good summary! I can also add that the form Islambul/Islambol (undistinguished in the old script) which you showed in the video and which sometimes appears in Ottoman documents means 'find Islam' and 'Islam is plentiful [there]', respectively. It's doubtful that anybody ever pronounced the name of the city that way; rather, it was just a fanciful way of writing it by pious people. Also, in some European documents from the 19th century there seems to be a distinction between Istanbul and Constantinople, with the former used to refer to the historical peninsula that was the center of the city (and having a greater concentration of Muslims) and the latter to the city as a whole, with surrounding districts like Galata and Üsküdar being included. This distinction wasn't standardized or widespread, but perhaps it reflects the fact that Istanbul had become the more common name among Muslim inhabitants by that point.
Many Islamist make false beliefs that "Islambol" was the official city name through Ottoman times, and "Istanbul" is just Turkish secular-nationalist creation.
“İstanbul” da Yuncanca kök, “Şehir” demek.
I live in Beylikdüzü Istanbul and trust me, I have seen many other cities. That are more religious and Islam oriented compared to Istanbul.
I read a very interesting perspective.
If the Holy Prophet peace and blessings be upon Him called the city Konstuntuniya (Constantinople ) then that's what it should be called.
The change of name is to force Muslims, especially Turks to forget that the city will be liberated in the End Times
Turkey: It's called Istanbul.
Europe: No.
Greece: Hell no.
America: Yeah sure why not.
It's just an American habit, if Europe choses one thing they always have to do the opposite to show off they are better than Europeans
@@Iason29 America will happily call your country whatever you want us to, just as long as we don't have to pronounce it correctly.
@@jesseberg3271
Or have to find it on a map.
@@Iason29 I don't think that is necessarily true. More like Russia was revoluting and getting itself into communism and US needs an ally who can embargo USSR and keep their weapon on USSR's doorstep.
America doesn't care
Some say James Bizinet himself founded the original city...
yeah it was James Bizinet not greeks, the city name should be James Bizinet city
Bizinetium
Jamesium bissonetium
@@stevenjlovelace you sir are a genius
Enoch?
These videos absolutely crack me up. It's something about the bluntness and frankness of the animations. Really good stuff.
Video title: When did Constantinople become Istanbul?
Answer according to the Greeks: Never
And that's true.
Yes that's why It's called Istanbul right pals? Like 500 year have passed, Is It still under siege and We didn't got It?
@Peanut Boi Ah damn, Fatih Sultan Mehmet Is still alive? Oh my god, wow.
*crying*
It will always be Constantinople in my heart
*Cries harder*
@Finger Boi now, repeat with me. 🎵assume everything in the internet is a joke until proven serious,
People are nationalistic of countries that dont exist but arent quite delirious🎵
"Except for the Greeks."
Least surprising part of this video.
The word Istanbul can’t be conjugated in Greek, its prononciation is unnatural in the Greek language and it symbolizes the turkification of Greek and Roman legacy. The closest we could call it is “Poli”, which literally drops the Constantine part from Constantinople so I don’t see the problem with calling it that.
@@ygh1932 What about Eistinpoli? The word Istanbul came from the Greek word which means "to the city"
Bruh that is as dumb as saying I’m going to the Tothecity
@@ygh1932 yeah but not any city, The City
@@ygh1932 blame the idiots that came up with ''the city''
This was actually much more nuanced but also less contreversial than I thought, super interesting!
You know it's ironic that almost no one ever called Constantinople/Istanbul by it's first official name, that is New Rome. Yep, that was official name during the entire Byzantine/Eastern Roman period! It really talks about how Constantine didn't had any imagination with naming things. I mean just look up how he named his children, it's hilarious.
Crisupus,Constantine 2, cosatnus, and consanutius 2
Yes, and he was the second last emperor to rule a united empire ( the last being Theodosius ). And his reign was the last period of glory for the whole Roman Empire. Maybe not a lot of imagination for names, but by far one of the most important emperors of Rome !
technically there were 4 other guys after him to rule the whole empire. His son constantius II, his half-nephew Julian, a random general named Jovian and Theodosius. They all had quite short reigns so it really doesn't matter Constantine might as well be the last emperor to rule the whole empire
Valentinian the Great: Am I a joke to you?
Greek commoners also didn't call the city constantinople or constantinopolis cause you know who the hell has time for that. that '''to the city'' greek word is the real source o the name which was the common use.
“Greeks call it the city”
Turks convert it to Istanbul based off it
“Angry Greek noises”
@@Iason29 you can't really take a joke
@@Iason29 oh look, a civilised person with a decent sense of humor that totally does not take the smallest thing as offensive.
Dumbass.
@@Iason29
LOL the "civilised man" gets mad over a simple joke :D
Iason29 bro I’m pro Byzantine, Constantinople is best name why you coming at me with this
They even made a song about it!
I've always found it bemusing that we don't always refer to places by the names that the inhabitants use. I can understand when it's a translation (Nederland in Dutch, meaning the exact same thing as Netherlands in English and Pays-bas in French) but sometimes it's the equivalent of introducing yourself to your neighbours as "Dave", but they then call you "Bobbington Steve-John the Third", because that's what the person who lived at your address 100 years ago was called.
Deutschland... Founded in recent history, so no excuse about old languages... Except it's Germany if you're English, Allemagne if you're French. Because of old languages.
Letzebuerg if you live there... but according to everyone who doesn't live there it's called some variation of "Luxembourg".
Capital of the UK is London... except lots of other languages say "Lon" then go off on a tangent.
Don't even start on the clusterfudge that is "use of the name Macedonia".
We see it today with gender pronouns; some people just simply refuse to refer to others in the way that they want.
History Matters: when did Constantinople become Istanbul?
Me, an intellectual: when did Byzantium become Constantinople?
ham onion
It says it in the video
"Personally, I prefer Miklagard"
-2:47
An intellectual would be aware of Constantine creating Constantinople.
When did Byzantion become Byzantium?
"If the Earth were a single state, Constantinople would be its capital." - Napoleon Bonaparte
He was going to make a global empire with Constantinople as its capital. I would like to live in that tbh
@@aegeanharrier6648 you mean istanbul?
@@emememememem Its Constantinople not gay as Instabul.
Unfortunately now it would be Tokyo. But Tokyo is still pretty epic
Roma, Madrid or Mexico city are far better options
“I’m on my way to the city”
“Which city?”
“THE city”
Underrated comment
"Jesse there are half a dozen cities named 'THE CIty', be more specific."
Ahh, thanks mate.
Definitely the best iteration was the James Bizanet-named Byzantium
XD
Bisonette*
Wouldn't that be Bisonette-ium? 😄😄😄
As a Greek, I am impressed with how well this topic was covered! Good job!
So will you give up to call city as Constantinople ?
@@nasthuner why tho?
@@nasthuner Don’t be afraid, it will not happen in this lifetime
@@mazgirt Because that name isn’t used anymore
@@qy9MC so?
"Except for the Greeks".
Makes sense.
Ty for finally answering this heartfelt question since I've heard both that it came to be in 1453 and in 1923 and I was confused
its impossible to be changed in 1923.
Think about it dude,you conquered a city from someone and the city's name means " from who did you conquered's city" and would you leave it? Its pretty illogical, especially when you are a muslim turkish and you conquered from a christian.
Because "James bizzanet city" was too confusing.
Istanbul: **exists**
Me, who's 0.5% Greek: No it's Constantinople.
People who don’t understand Greeks: *visible confusion*
It’s true. CONSTANTINOPLE. It’s just currently occupied.
Ales Jones man people gotta get their heads out of their arse and move for the future
@@sandrojones8068 its istanbul.
Me, who's 0% Greek: No it's Constantinople and belongs to Greece
Interesting to see how the Greeks refuse to use the new name Istanbul, even though it's actually a Greek name.
It's turkish butchery of a greek name. Also to greeks, it's not "THE City" anymore. It used to be their capital and biggest city. Now it's just some foreign city.
@@lunakoala5053 no no, its not just some foreign city, it still is the City. greeks still have a feeling of familiarity with it, although it doesn't belong to us.
@@dimk735 just like western tracia and north iraq(also most of the National Pact (Misak-ı Milli))
But we know they are no more our territories and saying it won't give them back.
Btw all countries has some territories like that,
@@bravebeatt2760 eh, I doth understand exactly what you are talking about but thrace was a Greek territory for a couple of millenia. so no, western thrace historically belongs to us.
@@dimk735 istanbul dindt be a cspital of turkiye but istanbul was capital of ottoman empire
1453 was an outside job.
Lmao love your videos man
Turkish* job
@@azamkhan1526 Turks with guns, big guns
oh bruh, fr watching obscure history videos
It was actually, the Crusaders sacked the city in 1204 and it never recovered. In 1453 it still held more than a month against an overwhelming force with bombards, full control of the surrounding area and endless supplis.
"...except the Greeks."
So, is there no mail service between Turkey and Greece? XD
JimmyNeutron7 that counts as no mail
We have, and at this time we don't care Greeks they re always cry
There is but only to one direction! (JK)
@UCR4P105MknmJhAsVnlIVfHA there is no holiday on the 6th of october
@UCR4P105MknmJhAsVnlIVfHA Bruh why so mad? Turks conquered İstanbul twice with the second time being without any fights while Greeks couldn't even hold İzmir.
Recognize and accept success rather than being a sour bitch about it. You'll at least look like smart than. Emphasis on "at least look like".
Congratulations on 500k!
"Why did Constantinople get the works?"
"That's nobody's business but the Turks"
People just like it better that way
@That_ Dude Istanbul not Constantinople, by "They might be Giants"
That song was going through my head all through this video.
As a Greek I must say…. We call it Constantinople fallowing the ancient tradition in the Balkans of making disputes out of nothing. It’s the small things in life that makes it fun.
At least an honest answer, thank you xd
As a Turk I admire how Greek people love making disputes out of nothing hahahah
As I Serb I like to say... nvm.
@@Emrek157 Pretending Turks are any different :p
@@jodofe4879 you must be so fun at parties
This video really captures the chaos of that "they might be giants" song.
1:52 turkish capital at the time was(and still is)ankara
1:15 at the time istanbul had many names and none of the names was widely accepted some used istinpolin some used stanbul some even used şehr-i devriye
1:42 he did it in 1930
Why did they move it to Ankara anyway?
@@luket.9113 ankara was more centralised than istanbul and held the first national congress
@@luket.9113 Cause the republic distanced itself from the empire. And Ankara was the heartland of turkish war of independence. It was almost at the center of turkey, even tho its in anatolia roads and railways were centeralised and probably the biggest city that wasnt occupied in that time. If Ankara was not chosen for capital, it could be İzmir (or smyrna i dunno which one you want to choose) but city was occupied by greeks
@@luket.9113 Because 1-Ankara is far away from other nations and Istanbul is near Bulgaria and Greece 2-First congress happened there
@@luket.9113 There are several reasons. 1) A lot more defensible since it doesn't have a sea that can let an invading navy in. 2) The resistance against the Sultan/Independence movement was based more in Anatolia and Ankara had useful rail and communication lines so it made sense to put the first parliament there. 3) Similar to how changing into İstanbul was about making a clear distinction between the old and the new order, moving the capital also showed very clearly that the new republic was different from what was before. Also don't forget that the last sultan and the royal family was still in Istanbul and they stayed there for some time even after the declaration of the republic. The old order could have slowly taken over if the government was still located in the exact same place.
Where is Constantinople?
*Pointing to heart
I N H E R E
@@Hairysteed milka guard
löl, dead city
@Dogu Kilickap based answer kardeşim. cCc
*İstanbul not constantinpolenitpoleonsatinopole ok you guys are realy fool*
🇬🇷
All I'm hearing in my head now is They Might Be Giants....
I am about to make everyone annoyed:
ISTANTINOPLE
Actually, you have done the opposite
@@reenasingh6693 Has India actually banned Tik Tok? Good idea! Kill that cringe fest.
@@VenomousCompany yes sir
ommaster8 aka moomoo milk Good
@@pachho808 Bystantinobul
There's always comments about James Bizanet, but what about Man Of Culture?
James Bizanett _IS_ a Man of Culture.
Still weird that the people who pay the most in patreon never comment, never even read the comments. It's fucking bizarre, not responding to your own celebrity status.
@@ChrisDyn1 Maybe they do, under an alias. Maybe we're not ready to deal with James Bizanett himself!
I just wanted to say that I adore this RUclips channel! So informative but also fun! Keep it up. 👍🏻
Excellent! I knew that "Istanbul" derived from the Greek meaning "(to) the city" but the fuller explanation of the evolution of the name is very clarifying. Thanks, HM!
Not Greek but Rum ! Greeks are extinct in history about 2500 years ago
@@ayhankaracaoglu6845
RE: Greeks are extinct in history about 2500 years ago
No.
@@sail2byzantium what you say is nonsense. Rums converted to Greek by brainwashing and indoctrination. Aristo's language is a foreign lang to a Rum. Though they produce silly arguments for this too. If you not existwho will sell europeannes and democrasy to other people as a asian origin rum.
@@ayhankaracaoglu6845
Still no.
@@ayhankaracaoglu6845wtffff
HM: When did Constantinople become Istanbul?
Me: In 1453 obviously
HM: ...in 1923
Me: .-.
Well, makes sense when you remember that many in Greece still called themselves Roman in the early 20th Century.
@@AhmetwithaT We never did :P
@@dopax3 Fun Fact: In turkey we still call greeks roman (rum)
@@eget4144
If they are living in turkey we call them rum, if they are living in greece we call them yunan. What i just said is mostly a "rule of thumb", sometimes greeks living in greece are called rum sometimes greeks living in turkey are called yunan but it's best not to confuse the people who know that greeks are called yunan in turkish.
@@briaormead4239 called Greek yunan?!
Meanwhile: somewhere angry 🇨🇳 glare at you
You know a city is important when it's literally called "the City" with a capital C
Not in Germany, you know.
Most major cities with long histories, have name changes, it's rare for one to not have name changes.
We still call Thessaloniki "Selanik," Alexandroupoli as "Dedeağaç," Bitola as "Manastır" even though they are not part of Turkey anymore. So a Greek can call Istanbul Constantinople or Edirne Adrianople, I have no problems with it. Fighting over names in the 21st century is silly.
Youre completly right!
I have never agreed a comment more as a Turkish person
TRUE!
Agreed but want to say that Selanik is turkificated pronounciation of Thessaloniki so its not the name change. But for Alexandroupoli or Bitola, its totally true.
i visited istanbul before covid and i loved it a lot. 10/10 would recommend. salam from denmark
Salam is not Turkish, selam is
Yeah "merhaba or selam" is good enough.
@@bthn5102 If you really do want a word purely of Turkic/sh roots merhaba and selam wouldn't count either, but they work of course, as they are the most common ones and have become a part of Turkish. If you want to use an original Turkic word you can try "Esenlikler", nobody really uses it in daily life, it is mostly used by nationalists
Sucuk from Turkey
Denmark is a White country
Most of the world: Ankara
The Greeks: ⚓
I didn't get this
@@furkanonuraydnoglu540 Ankara was called "Ankyra/Ancyra" (Άγκυρα) in antiquity. And άγκυρα means anchor⚓ in Greek. And this is funny.
What a stupid coomment. Ankara and many turkish city names as well, comes from mispronpuncing Angkira (άγκυρα)
In Portuguese, anchor is âncora, very similar to Greek
Anchor in swedish is ankare so we can basically also make fun of their names.
This channel is pure brilliance.
How much would history change if Constantine chose Sofia, Bulgaria as the new Roman Capital?
@@meganoobbg3387 okay but that may have been different if it became a Roman capital. Still, Byzantion was the perfect location for the center of the Western world
It would probably never become a bulgarian city since it would be heavily guarded by the empire's best soldiers.
It would have fallen to the Bulgarian Empire (the first one) instead of the Ottomans many centuries later.
The fourth crusade would have probably gone much differently though.
@@joermnyc
It probably would never fall to bulgarians as it would be the best defended city. Probably surrounding areas would be well defended as well. So bulgaria might not exist/be in a different place in this universe.
he actually wanted to chose Sofia but out of some reason i cant quite remember now he chose that place and named it constantine
Even though a lot was left out of this video (although Istanbul's entire history isn't really relative to the name change) I still learned a lot from this video about the mechanisms involved in naming the city. Multiple sources matters!
As a Greek the last part except the Greeks really made me happy
Yes that will give it back to you..!
@@h3w45 no but our armed forces might...in 1921 we nearly got it back, you never know what's coming next
@DeeZ Almonds i doubt that, u have to look at where nato is investing ;). for example look at Ukraine / russia war u would say russia win but they arent.
Nato has been investing big times into greece last few years. im pretty sure Greece has the upper hand, tho in reality like it or not. not to mention turkey is pretty much bankrupt they cant even afford a thing. anyway war aint gonna happen since they both are NATO.
greeks have no problems with turks nor do turks with greeks. its just politics idiots who keep dumping little oil on the fire.
i mean im married to a greek and she does things i cant understand (im not greek far from a greek so culture differences) when i ask some of my friends (turks) they understand her perfectly fine and agree with her. (no im not a turk either ;)) turks and greeks are really close to each other in the way of doing things like it or not.
@deezalmonds7680the armed forces that ruled asia minor for 3,5 years, was the population of greece bigger than ottoman empire back then? No you were simply weaker and we took the opportunity, dont rely on numbers we were always fewer than you
> When did Constantinople become Istanbul?
Greece: never
Did you know there is a city called "Constantine" in Algeria, it's full of Bridges. Look it up, it has something to do with Constantinople historically.
Who cares what greeks think.
@@alibutt1465 me.
ALWAYS WILL BE CONSTANTINOPLE
Well Roman care about them and absorbed and spread their culture to western civilizations
@@iplyrunescape305 are you high
Add They Might Be Giants Reference here.
Even old New York was Once New Amsterdam
Kid wants a coffee, black
@@IanCordingley no shit there's grown men attempting to murder him
Congratulations on half a million subs!
Teacher: Where is Istanbul?
Student: Here.
Teacher: Where is Constantinople?
Us: Here.
The feels man
Overdramatic
Yep, the dumpster🤣🤣
The real Constantinople was in you all along.
When Ezio kicked the Templars ass, thats when
Templars are the good guys
I love Assassin's Creed franchise, but I disliked how Revelations was so anti-Byzantine and pro-Ottoman.
Could you stop starting a discussion in my shitpost?
@Eddy yea, because they were assholes.
@Eddy they were far worse
0:24 ( right ) - Who thought of *Alex Trebek?*
I burst into tears seeing this recommended.
@@talha7309 its a cool city. lol
Let's go visit the city.
What city?
The city.
What?
The city!
The final gag was the cherry on top😂
Last time I was this early Istanbul didn’t exist
Yes it did the city is old as fuck. It's been called Istanbul for centuries but wasn't made official until the 20s
Learned this after watching "Rise of Empires: Ottomans" on Netflix
quick question: what did you think of the actors' accents? Just curious
@@duyguozkann It would be much, much better if they spoke Turkish.
@@jakovvodanovic9165 If I have to read all the dialogue To understand anything I might as well just read a history book.
@@brandonlyon730 like there'll be action scenes there lol
@@brandonlyon730I guess it's different cultures, but in Croatia, subtitling movies and series is a normal standard and is quite common. I think if the actors spoke in their native languages, performance would be much more believable (or the producers could simply find American or British actors).
Also, does subtitling really hinder enjoying shows for you?
I'm pretty sure there was a period when it was called Stamboul in England at least. I know Graham Greene wrote a book called Stamboul Train in the '30s, and I think I remember it being called that a couple of times in Murder on the Orient Express as well.
Ottoman empire: I'm gonna ruin this mans whole career
Not really didn’t Christian crusaders sack it in 1204?
@@Sea-zu4bj yep, 4th crusade practically killed the empire. After that it would never march in force again
Everybody: 1) Constantinople; 2) Istanbul
Me, as an intelectual: *I S L A M B O L* 1:19
Ah a man of culture I see.
Islamic Bolshevism
Please do not use that, only turkish islamic nationalists use that and it doesn't even make sense
Daniel b What the hell is Isl[STAR ICON]mbol?
islambol is fake etymology
1:50 “He asked all of the nations to respect this change and start calling the Turkish capital, Istanbul, from then on”. At this time point, the Turkish capital was not Istanbul anymore but Ankara, which is still the case. Istanbul is not a capital city since the Ottoman sultanate was abolished and the Turkish Republic was established.
That's nobody's business but the Turks.
even old new york was once new amsterdam...
Why they changed it, I can't say!
*People just liked it better that way.*
Many do not know this fact but the city was founded by an aristocrat named James Bizzonet
When Ataturk asked nations to call the “Turkish Capital” Istanbul at 1:52 in the video, wasn’t Ankara the capital?
yes it was ankara. Turkey never had istanbul as its capital.
He can get confused because in the same year Ankara became capital.
I wasn’t sure if maybe there was a weird window at the very start of modern Turkey where Istanbul was the capital.
@Star Star hahahahaha. YES. he was a dictator that worked for democracy lmao. Learn history kid
@Star Star sorry bro, but most of the turks dont know a shit about history. They dont know that ataturk never had election. People never voted for him. He just had 1 election and that was among his friends. He didnt let anyone vote except his friends. And that was just one time. He was dictator with no doubt.
Oh boy, this comment section is gonna be interesting.
I'll start.
Brazil is serbian!
Brazil shall always be Sealandic
All of you are wrong. The whole universe belongs to Hungary! It can have all the seas it wants
Back off Libya is rightful Dutch clay!
The whole multiverse belongs to Sealand Empire.
2:18 “ except for the Greeks” lol the Greeks will never forget
Can we appreciate how smooth and accurate the transition of maps was from Eastern Rome (Byzantium), to the different stages of the Ottoman Empire and the European maps from world war to world war?
Also, my ranking for favorite names is:
1. Konstantinople
2. Tsargrad
3. Byzantium
4. New Rome
(Literally every other name)
X. Istanbul
@@columbien10 did i ask? Its istanbul.
Turkey: either you call it Istanbul or you wont get your mail!
Europe: okay...
Greece: LMAO! No
@@talha7309 Istanbul (not Constantinople)
@@comradekenobi6908 Islambol not istanbul.
@@patatesaraskumpr3228 you are all wrong it is Miklagard!
I still prefer the name Constantinople
i think constantinople is more cool
@@fuseydunae397 well it's not your job to choose name to city that we own and i live. If you don't live Islambol, then you will find constantinople cooler... (Islambol means a lot of faith )
I find it disappointing that you skipped over an important reason the name was changed:
There was a folk etymology that claimed the Istanbul was from "islambol" or "Islam bul", both religious phrases in Arabic.
It was wrong, but probably a primary driver enforcing the name change. They could use this myth to justify that it was a nationalistic act.
Even as a Turk, I concede that Miklagard sounds coolest.
An important part of the internet is reminding everyone that Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.
Holy crap dude youre about to hit 500k 😍😍😍
2:48
"personally I prefer Miklagard "
lol
Me too. And I am a Turk 😅
Who’s ready for the Greek Turkish war? Imagine if he talked about the Cyprus invasion next
And we shall retake Constantinople
@@bananatank9048 and we shall retake all greece and istanbul :)
@@bananatank9048 only in your dreams sweetheart
Emir Gumus in your dreams where Turkey has all of Greece
Jackie Nation at least Greece can rebel and protest as much as they wanted to
Thanks to the 90 cartoon and the great song got me hooked to find out everything about this place and its history
"That's nobodies business but the Turks"
Why they changed it, I can't say
@@whizwart1 _people just like it better that way_
♫♫♫ "If you've got a date in Constanstinople, she'll be waiting in Instanbul"... ♫♫♫
Turkey: Changes the city's name to Istanbul
*Greece will remember that*
Who else hates the new way comments are viewed on cell phones?
Usually I detest these types of comments but I agree so whole heartedly with this that it forces my feelings on the previous matter out the window.
I can relate to the Konstantiniyye-Istanbul situation. Most locals where I come from don't use the offical name for the town, instead they simply refer to it as "the Place".
I don't think it could be renamed though. That wouldn't go over well.
Lets rename it to tsargrad so nobody is happy
“Why did Constantinople get the Works?
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks” 🤣
Reminds me of an old song by The Four Lads, “Istanbul (Not Constantinople).”
They Might be Giants did a cover of this as well 🤗
Istinpoli = Stampolis = Istanbul is also a Greek name. 😁
Any city name ending with “bul, bol, bolu” is Greek name given for cities in Anatolia which is called Turkey after 1923.
Bolu: Poli
Gelibolu: Gallipoli
Inebolu
Safranbolu (Safron city)
Tirebolu
and many more! (Search and find more)
I almost thought that James Bisonette was the one who changed the capital's name , since he's probably the one financing it...