Ant-Man 3: What's Next After QUANTUMANIA - Kang's Return, Young Avengers + Deadpool Explained
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2023
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After Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, we know that Kang will return, and the movie also set up the Youn Avengers. But how? What can we expect in Avengers: Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars?
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Alright, Quantumania sets up so many things for what’s coming next in the multiverse saga.
We got to talk about what happens now with the council of Kangs.
What it means for te Avengers and the multiverse.
Also what could happen with Kang the conqueror after his supposed death.
And how everything else connects: the incursions, the Fantastic 4, other heroes from the multiverse like Deadpool, and even the Young Avengers.
So let’s go over what could be happening next in the multiverse saga, and how it all leads to Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars.
Alright, the ending of Quantumania sets up the council of Kangs as the biggest baddies in the multiverse.
This is a multiversal alliance of Kang variants from every universe.
And remember, a Variant is an alternate version of someone from a different universe.
Now there’re 3 important variants in this scene, those are the council leaders.
Those are: Immortus, Rama-Tut and a third variant. That one is probably meant to be the Scarlet Centurion from the comics.
For the sake of the video, we’re just going to refer to him as Scarlet Centurion.
The Kangs rule the multiverse, and they don’t want anyone else using or even knowing about the multiverse.
Doug: Because they’re control freaks?
That. And also because they’re worried that others will destroy their multiversal empire.
So they’re uniting all the Kang variants from every universe to wage war on Earth 616. And they will probably attack every other universe that may have touched the multiverse. [clip 0:51-0:57]
So this establishes the multiversal war for Avengers the Kang Dyansty.
You thought one Kang is bad, now imagine what happens when thousands of them fight the Avengers.
But don’t forget about the Kang we met in Quantumnia.
According to him, the council of Kangs is playing with time like children.
Their actions are killing the multiverse.
All of these Kangs exist because of the rules of time travel.
Whenever someone travels through time they create new branching timelines. Those timelines become new universes.
And this is how there is a multiverse.
The movie represented this visually in that awesome scene when Ant-Man meets his variants.
Scott enters a probability storm which is created by Kang’s multiversal engine core.
He begins splitting into countless variants. Each new Scott is a version of himself that made a slightly different choice.
This probability storm is a miniature version of how the multiverse works.
And this is how there are so many Kangs.
The problem is that the Kang variants keep creating too many new timelines, and this is triggering endless incursions. [clip: Mister Fantastic multiverse of madness]
So what this means is that universes are colliding and blinking out of existence.
The incursions are destabilizing the multiverse, destroying everything, everywhere, all at once.
Kang claims to have tried to stop this.
In Kang’s flashbacks, Janet sees him destroying worlds.
It’s hinted he burned down whole universes to stop incursions.
He sees himself as the only one that sees what is happening, the only one who can handle the terrible truth of what he must do. [clip 5:49]
Doug: So the other Kangs don’t care?
Well we actually don’t know if they aren’t trying to save the multiverse themselves.
It is possible that the very reason why the council wants to prevent others from using the multiverse is to stop incursions.
After all, the Kang variants aren’t the only ones that trigger incursions. 
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@@Sh3pherd_N3wtonx chill out
@@xuavy5036 alr
Do you think they will go for God Emperor Doom(Kang) or and new actor?
your videos on marvel movies are simply the best on youtube
You think Scott will call a meeting with any hero’s he can to discuss kang or do you think he gonna just ignore it ?
I would of loved that to be part of the ending because Ant Man wasn't taken serious because he was always just the tag along guy and never felt like he belonged, but by going toe to toe with Kang he proved himself. But no I doubt he calls a meeting, they could of atleast had Wong pop up and look at Ant Man and ask where were you, and Scott be like excuse me I'm off parole and tired of explaining myself to Asians lol
@@Byronic19134 ….. ok then
@@Byronic19134 yeah that sounds kinda racist
Doesn’t matter. Whether he does or not the heroes are all busy.
I have a feeling he's gonna run it by Sam wilson
It’s going to be interesting to see Loki at the forefront of the multiversal saga. I wonder if anyone will believe Loki when he tries to warn all the heroes of Kang considering Loki’s trickster history.
Or the Kang variant who is Loki and Scott
I've been wondering the same like how would he convince anyone
@@kamichan127 He'd convince Thor who would have an easier time convincing everybody (if he's not retired somewhere in the Galaxy by then)
A very interesting thought … ps: I love how loki the series is like the center of all the multiverse stuff… no one could’ve imagined how important loki season 1 is gonna be.
And I cant wait for season 2
@@jjstarrprod but kang said he killed him...the one with the hammer :)
I appreciate these videos and I love Doug the Manager.
You're a clown too
Yeah Doug!!!! Doug for President 🎉💙💪✊🎊🐶
After seeing this, I believe Scott may have indirectly turned Kang into the Beyonder
Scott and Hope not getting stuck in the quantum realm at the end makes me feel like young avengers was pushed back
Spoilers: I'm not seeing Kang get enough credit for how much shop he wrecked in the 3rd act. No he did not lose to Ant Man, it took the entire Quantum Realm to even hold him off, he squashed the rebellion with easy, he squashed Scott, Cassie and Hope teaming up on him with ease, and was blitzed by a horde of thousands of type 2 civ ants that only broke him when Modok betrayed him, and he still got through that and whooped Scotts ass in hand to hand combat with his suit broke and went to jump in the portal when Hope perfectly timed it to kick him back and with custom made Pim tech just for Kang sucked him into a portal. So yes The Conqueror will be back, in fact my prediction is he comes back in Kang Dynasty when the Ramu Tut and Immortus take Earth to help the Avengers win before turning on them again.
Nicely put!
No he's not returning, it's the he who remain Is the most evil at the same time good one,he planned everything
They wrote that scene so poorly, they already showed he has the ability to create portals, he should have never gotten his shit kicked in by fucking ants. Let me say that again, someone from the 31st fucking century and has almost unmatchable intelligence and the power to have already destroyed entire timelines got his shit kicked in by ANTS. If that doesn't bother you that's cool but it makes zero fucking sense.
stop riding marvels meat and accept the movie is no different from the past 5 marvel movies. CGI hell, corny jokes that don't hit, no tension at all, the most forgetable characters ive ever seen in a marvel movie, and bill muray for some reason.
@@Yeetyeeet need Bill Murray as a random character in every Marvel movie now
There is no way Kang is dead in my opinion! They wouldn’t tease that ending at the end of QuANTuMANia where Scott question if he really defeated Kang I love that ending it really left me there questioning the movie I had just watched
Yeah Scott now lives in a world where people spray paint Thanos Was Right as graffiti.
And didn't they say at the end Kang will return
@@apoorvsingh4459yes. But it didn't say ant man will return. But that usually just ties to the next avengers movie
We got Victor Timely in Loki Season 2, a variant (Scarlet Centurion) of his in Deadpool 3, Iron Lad in Young Avengers, Rama-Tut was teased in Moon Knight so maybe Agatha: Coven of Chaos, Midnight Sons or FF. Mr. Gryphon as a producer in Wonder Man.I’m hoping they focus on those three and Victor Timely that way they can build out those characters.
The core "blowing up" could have shrunk him down further and formed the TVA version we saw at the end of Loki S1
Imagine if secret wars ends with wanda saying ”no more kangs”
Probably the best (and most positive) take on how things can shake out. Well done. This actually makes me kind of excited for Fantastic Four.
I'm looking forward to how they're going to develop this whole thing but they have to quickly establish a finite limitation on Kang: infinite realities otherwise implies infinite Kangs (even infinite versions of Immortus, Rama-Tut, "The Conquerer," He-Who-Remains, etc). Hoping that the Kang we just met does return.
I’ve noticed a lot of hate this movie is getting is from people who haven’t watched it.
Movie was a solid 8/10 for me and had me on the edge of my seat whenever kang was on screen
Yeah man I loved the movie I'd give it a 8/10 but for viewing in theatre a 9.5/10 because Imax 3d was made for movies like this.
I've also come to the conclusion that many of the people who saw it and are hating on it just did not understand what was happening. The ending is a perfect example, a clear misdirection as Kang wasn't killed, but not only that the dude squashed an entire rebellion, the Ant Family, then a horde of type 2 civ Ants, and still got through it to whoop Scott and jup through the portal before Hope timing it perfectly and kicking him back. So he didn't lose to Ant Man, it took literally the entire Quantum Realm and every character in the film to even hold him off.
If this was 8/10 for you, so Civil War or Inifinity must have been 15/10
I watched this film, and I believe it’s a 3/10, it was garbage, Cassie was shit not even got unique abilities, Hank was just there, Janet was just a convenient plot device, doesn’t tell anyone about a conqueror who is in the quantum realm. The only good bit of this film is the ending it sets Kang up nicely, and yes I kinda hate Kang losing but I guess it actually helps him overall. Jonathan Majors’ performance was a 10/10 he upstaged everyone
@@ashtongreen5494you don’t know how much I wanted kang to win bro you don’t know how bad I wanted him to win
I can also see He Who Remains as an older version of Iron Lad. He knows pretty much every variant of himself is evil and wants to stop himself so it makes sense Iron Lad will show up and help the Avengers and become HWR.
I wish Kang from Quantumania got to experience the probability area. I bet he'd fight himselves in an effort to either be or become the original, the one who remains when you leave the area.
im thinking that’s the reason he couldn’t retrieve the quantum engine himself, because his probabilities would be out to destroy him
@@obmagk9704 that’s right. I bet that was his biggest obstacle that he had no idea how to tackle head on. Great observation I didn’t even think of that while watching.
I was thinking while he’s down there he takes a note from Scott and want the same thing which is escape and revenge….plus being down there wouldn’t that technically be like his own personal counsel of kangs? 🤔
Yes...I think that's exactly where "He who remains" came from. Good call.
Why does he need to go into the probability area when he pretty much has that problem already.
Honestly can't wait for what they do with Kang, and his variants for the future in the mcu.
Finally, you thought the same thing as me. While lots of people thought Kang was dead, I was trying to tell them the same thing, this version of Kang (the conqueror) definitely sucked/absorbed from that multiversal energy core while PYM particles are shrinking it. And I don't know how it'll be done but I was assuming this Kang variant will be returned as Beyonder in the future. (Such as how Wanda upgraded her (mutant - innate) powers via soul stone and how Captain Marvel got her powers via space stone)
BTW, in the end, I think Ant-Man is returned to an alternative universe's world or time has been rewritten. Or else he's in a time loop or something else. Something was definitely changed. (Like how Loki season 1 ended. We still can't be sure if time was re-written or if he's sent to an alternative universe by Slyvie via the teleport machine of He Who Remains)
my theory is that when the conqueror was sucked into the exploding multiversal engine core, he was actually sucked deeper into the quantum realm and entered a probability storm creating thousands of variants all of himself. not variants of nathaniel richards just conqueror variants and with these variants he destroys the council of kangs and goes on to purge the multiverse leading into kang dynasty and eventually secret wars where his actions have destabilized the multiverse into battleworld
Thanks for keeping the vids coming, Ryan!
When you mentioned Ghost Rider on battleworld, I peed myself a little.
Doug really needs a promotion, I mean seriously how is Doug doing all the work Ryan?
He might not be paid for it
getting chills just thinking of the potential stories. Great work ScreenCrush
just like with antman imagine the kang that 'died' was transported with 616 but he came back as a kid/ teen with no memories of being kang. Eventually maybe when antman find out he may become kang again
No just no like what. Why would his memories be wiped? That goes against Kang biggest strength which is his knowledge. And AntMan never lost his memories.
@@Byronic19134 not antman losing his memories idn i was just thinking it could be a way of making kang young
@@jxdskits7813 Iron Lad.
@@davidchism6081 yh exactly, Kang isn’t from 616 meaning his iron lad counterpart can exist while the Conqueror still exists at full power, which is what happens in the comics, and like the comics iron lad sees what he becomes and decides to not follow that path
What if Kang the Conqueror and He Who Remains are one in the same? Maybe when Loki/Sylvie reset him he “lost everything.” Now he has to take a more violent approach to regain power.
To piggy back on this idea: what if Kang just “resets” every time he loses. Therefore, he can’t truly lose… he just resets and learns from his lose? Maybe our idea of Kang losing is still too linear… it’s a circle that he has mastered.
To piggy back on this idea: what if Kang just “resets” every time he loses. Therefore, he can’t truly lose… he just resets and learns from his lose? Maybe our idea of Kang losing is still too linear… it’s a circle that he has mastered.
Examples of this are like the movies Edge of Tomorrow, Groundhogs day, or Dr. Strange (when he loops time to win)
did anyone else notice that kang mentioned eternity in quantumania? i'll need to rewatch it to remember exactly what he said. it was couched as a passing statement, something along the lines of, 'my goal is to conquer eternity' or something like that, which makes sense all by itself, but if gorr and thor know of eternity why wouldn't kang? likewise, the death and dead body of eternity played a large role in secret wars, he is after all the embodiment of the multiverse and has been explicitly introduced at this point and multiple times. when i heard this i just couldn't help but wonder if it meant something more.
Man U rock. How u put this all together is awesome. The cut scenes from other movies hit the bullseye.
Kang is definitely coming back....when we don't know for the moment some heroes will be goin up against his variants. I think it would be perfect if the Fantastic Four were to come out in phase5 for them to fight Rama Tut or and this is a long shot have MoonKnight battle him but he would have to able to go in the past to do so..Loki would probably have to deal with them
I've heard that a possible way to assemble the Young Avengers would be in the rumored Vision Quest show.
Great vid!!!! I absolutely LOVE your content!! Thanks for all you do. I'm so excited for young avengers!
@ScreenCrush I do like the idea of a connection to the Ten rings but do you know if Kang's glowing orb has any relation to Orb of Agamotto? The nested circles seem very similar. I could be wrong.
Thanks Ryan.
Brilliant video!! Never knew about The Beyonder!! Love how that sets up Secret Wars!!
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Thank you for another great video as always Ryan, and doug👌🏾.
With the antman example on the scene showing several antmans showing up for every different outcome from any decision is how the multiverse gets created/united. The objective of Kang is making all universes fight each others by manipulating incursiona. The solution for this conflict is to synchronize all versions of everyone like antman did. Like the desire to defeat all Kanes at the same time
There is a loop that needs to be broken. Kang is always gonna end up in the end of time controlling his timeline. Immortus gave everyone a chance to end this loop.
Ryan you never disappoint!...I wish people who want to catch up with the entire mcu just come here and watch your videos
Spread the word bro ! 🎉
Would definitely stopped people from whining about having to watch every single thing to be caught up
@@Cs-cp6vo exactly!
You guys should work for Marvel, the insanely awesome way you guys setup/predict the plot. Incredibly fun to watch!
So where I live in Pgh there is a architecture that has a inverted mobies on there tower to the parking space it’s crazy that it took weeks to see and it is out of granite and I think it’s cool as heck
Conqueror becomes the Beyonder forms battleworld.
Nathaniel Richards becomes He who Remains, fixes world.
your doppganger is one of the councillers from the tv show "intervention".
I thought it interesting to look back at Ultron's comment here about the Scarlet witch saying she would tear them apart from the inside. The initial meaning of course seems to be with those dreams, but in hindsight perhaps there is more. Perhaps he was putting into place a "plan b". Wanda kinda tore them apart from the inside twice more with the incident that caused the Sokovia Accords and therefore the Avengers' "Civil War" and the events of "Multitude of Madness". Really it is a little surprising that the events of Wandavision didn't tear them apart as well. It certainly had the potential to do so. I love her character but she just seems to be at the center of these occurrences over and over again.
Good stuff, ScreenCrush! I just subscribed!
Ryan, the American Horror "Surprise bitch" clip needs to be in basically every video that you all make from now, going forward. And it will never get old. Absolutely perfect
The void being where they could introduce the beyonders is such a solid theory to think about.
it was so good of a theory.
Isn't the void where TVA pruned people...and where the citadel at the end of time actually was in Loki? If so that makes sense.
For some reason I have a feeling Loki Is gonna gather the avengers together and warn them about Kang. Cause now only Antman knows about him right now.
In the comics Doctor Doom had Wanda during The Children's Crusade, but in the MCU a variant of Kang most likely has her.
What if Kang started/will start the TVA from within the core? That's where the TVA might have been all along "the beyond".
I agree.
Man I am getting quickly hyped for the inevitable confrontation between Kang and the Avengers. Kang is scary lol
Edit: People who say "Kang got beat by ants" probably have the same IQ that MODOK did in this movie.
726 avengers?
I think it will be the Fantastic 4 also be involved.
Yeah but can’t get too excited knowing the horrendous writers of Rick and morty are the ones that are gonna write the script for the next two avengers films
I’m more excited in kang vs his variants
How is he scary when he got beat by ants 😂😂😂
I just love these videos and doug the manager is sooo funny
the rings also kinda looked like the circle you would see on strange's house
The multiversal engine similar to what Asgardians used to travel.
Epic theory video, as always!
I'll have to say I've been subscribed to you for about 3 years now and I won't even really listen to anybody else on RUclips about my movies. Always wait until you have one. You're doing a great job. Props to the both of you.
What if the beacon being sent out was created by Kang being trapped into the orb at the end of quantimania and being released into earth 616?
Making Kang into a version of the Beyonder seems plausible, considering how he "died" i am wondering how they are going to insert DOOM at this late juncture in the MCU?
I believe he will be the main villain of the next saga so he's backburner until then.
Didn't thw Howard stern show a few months back accidentally leak that a doom project is in the works can't remember if it was a Doom series or movie
i think doom will help the FF4 and general heroes defeat kang, then slowly start seizing power for himself
@@MrMc... fingers crossed!!!
If the signal in the rings is from Kang then maybe he is stuck at the beginning of time with nothing but his machine, so he created the ten rings and put the signal there for anyone curious and powerful enough to free him (I think accidentally).
This all make Kang the original leader of the Ten Rings organisation. Meaning that even the Mandarin appropriated it from Kang just like Trevor appropriated it from him.
Lol Ryan " the YOUNG avengers"
Thank the Heavens for Screen Crush… I wouldn’t have understood much of this Quantum Mania anything if it wasn’t for you Ryan 💯💪
Tbh I thought in the comments of these videos people would talk bad about the recent marvel movies but it just seems that everyone understands and is being patient. Maybe the movies could have been better but marvel is trying to set everything up again. It takes time.
@2:28-2:33 if that wasn't the most precious sound ever 😭
There’s an actor listed on IMDB as Nate Richards in Agatha: Coven of Chaos. He’s probably friends with the actor everyone is saying plays Billy
THANKS for this!!!!
What if Dormammu gets involve too? Though the dark dimension is a completely separated realm from the multiverse, I wonder if he’ll be affected.
What if Dormammu is a Kang variant lmao
One of kang’s variants entrance in 8:54 looks similar to reed richards entrance in dr strange 2. Could it mean something?
ii would be dope if we got a end credit scene of white vision setting up the young avengers.
Is that the same "the Beyonder" that came out in the final episode of Disneys marvel series Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur?
Patiently waiting for the potholes video😊
I think Kang ended up at the TVA and will use them to manipulate the timelines. Loki in S2 will try to undermine that but probably ends up being an unwitting pawn in Kang's plan.
Any chance you think Loki will be like an "Alcatraz" style show where they have to hunt down a different Kang Variant each episode? Sounds like more of a tv thing. Love your stuff Ryan
All this is tooooo much to handle😄Great job as always💯
Can you please please please do a breakdown of carnival row? There’s like no vids about it😢
Best theory I hard so far. I concur just for all the characters they have introduced over the last couple of movies and shows.
Loki should be the face of MCU in multiverse saga , he is both fan favourite and excellent actor
Love your content man. I watch all of your videos. You know your comics 👍🏻. All these people making videos saying Antman wasn’t good don’t understand the story and don’t pay attention to detail. Keep crushing it bro!!!
What if the 10 rings' beacon was the signal for how all the Kangs to converge?
what if cassie's signal to the qr is what triggered the ten rings (the pulsating thing) and kamala's bangle? i know it doesn't make any sense but what if its that?
I wonder if there was a Scott that does a hat wobble or goes by the name Tayne in the multiverse?
I still think Kang in quantummania was he who remains before the war before he had to become who he needed to be it would make so much sense omg the more I think about it the more it gives me chills 🫠
So kind of a rehash of civil war.. I'm glad you have your videos because that's how I consume my MCU right now as I don't have the energy to tell myself it will be a good movie or a show
The movie wasn't bad but I really had high expectations for Kang to do something tragic to Scott in order to show how much of a threat he is for the saga.
same but it showed his potential though
i think if they play him right in the next movies he can be a bigger threat then thanos i hope they don’t mess his character over though
I get that, but do you really want to see all of what Kang is capable in this first movie?
Marvel nailed it. Did exactly what they wanted. See how we are all here speculating and guessing what's to come? They stuffed this movie with extra nicotine. Thrbnkrenthaybgdts uncovered between SC and d new Rockstars channels just makes the anticipation build. The movie was done exactly how they wanted.
I think Kang landed in another timeline because in Endgame, the Avengers travelled to different timelines by becoming smaller than the Quantum Realm Im pretty sure.
You forgot Hulk's Son that was introduced on SheHulk
I’m confused. I thought He who remains was the only one, aside from Kang (Who was in the Quantum realm) before the sacred timeline started to branch? So how were they controlling the multiverse? It seems like the two stories aren’t meshing.
Well, it starts out with each Kang in their own universe. Then they begin to become aware of one another and come in contact with each other. At first their interactions are mostly to learn and cooperate. Then a council of Kangs is formed. This Council kind of rules things then. Eventually, things get out of control and they start to fight until eventually only He Who Remains is left. This is how it was explained in the Loki series. He Who Remains forms the TVA to keep things down to one timeline that does risk incursions. Then after Sylvie and Loki do their thing, the sacred timeline is branching every which way. This will basically set things on a path to start the whole thing all over again as explained in the video.
Kang is a being who operates outside of time he’s kinda like reverse flash if that helps… he literally can go anywhere in time to accomplish his goals at his full power the version we meet in Loki is currently the kang at the height of his power… the one in quantum realm we don’t know much about outside of He’s an exile, he’s got beef, and fueled by revenge… we got a hint of his power but we didn’t see how bad it can get nothing that the Kang variant said in Loki actually happens in quantumania the scary thing is it can and it will based on the decisions the heroes have been making
Love your videos!
Does Elijah Bradley have any super soldier syrum in him since his grandfather was one?
Kang Nam Style 🎉
This is the Kang that became He Who Remains at the end of time in Loki I would bet!
My understanding is that the multiverse already exists whether or not someone time travels. The entity known as the Nether Queen in Allred’s SS run represents all possibilities that are not actualized. The different choices and actions that are taken cause different realities whether or not time travel is employed. Maybe the MCU movies are taking a different approach from the books?
This is so off topic but did anyone else see Kangs suit Sleeve armour just appear like the VFX wasn’t rendered? At 13:06?
The Scott shown at the end isn't the same one from the beginning based on how the deli owner doesn't call him Spider-Man.
I really appreciate your perspective and I think we might be about the same age because I find a lot of your references and comments to be familiar to my own thoughts, especially regarding the comics. Cheers.
You told this so confident I’m taking this all as spoilers
Good video 🙌🏼💯
Marvel needs you this video was amazing and very detailed
How is Loki going to find He Who Remains in the sea of Kangs? He doesn't even know that's his name yet.
I am surprised that you havent said that this first kang becomes he who remains ( though I am a bit concerned about him not keeping his word to Scott), since he is saying how bad teh other ones are and he is moving to vanquish them for the sake of all realities. I could even see that he made 616 his home and only that reality was spared.
Victor timely will be He who Remains in future... The OG Kang
I love this channel!!
When will this movie be able to stream?
what if there were variants of doug work at video stores across town?
odd question but can anyone tell me why the video quality in the post credit scenes is so poor? thanks!