All you need to do is put the fluid in on the valve port and the air on the other port. The air flow across the fluid port creates the venturi to draw the fluid into themair stream. I would move the valve to the air input and just direct connect the fluid as fluid flow can be adjusted by air flow
I was thinking about the help of gravity but with regulation of the flow through the tap. To no longer depend on air absorption. The only problem would be that I inadvertently forget to turn off the liquid valve when stopping work. It would be an unpleasant surprise next day.
I’m going though this process right now. The air pressure to Venturi the coolant out the tank is higher than I want. So I’ve pressurised the coolant tank using 3D printed parts and run a tap on the coolant line. Still in building phase but hopeful I can run much lower psi to achieve the same result. Plus have independent coolant and air taps.
WOW. I really didn't think of that. Maybe someone who has been using something like this for a long time can answer us. This is indeed a good question. Thank you !
Technically not good but with the exception of factory’s with a large numbers of CNC machine centers with mist collection nobody I know worries about it unless you get some kind of allergic reaction .
There are several types of emulsion. Are they all identical or do they contain different components ? I don't think that the manufacturer's labels specify whether or not it is dangerous for health. This information should be mandatory.
@@JIMMY916just in general i've found machining in a small space impacts air quality significantly. I have a bunch of air monitors from work that track particulates, various chemicals, vapours etc. Doing basic machining with cutting oils, lubricants etc set off a few alarms. That was without coolant running. Might just have been because i'm crap at machining. No idea if high particulates and chemicals in the air are much of a health issue but i prefer to have decent air flow through my workshop just to be safe. Set up a cheap extractor fan and air quality quickly improved.
Thank you for the information. My workshop is a little bigger than a matchbox and that is quite a problem for ventilation. I will look into this very carefully and use the solution you provided. But I seriously wonder if it's worth the risk. However, I have an amateur consolation.. I rarely work compared to those who have this job and work daily. Thank you for your time !
Nice job Jimmy. Good idea. You could make a restrictive orifice for the coolant siphon hose. It may restrict the coolant enough to solve your problem. Also, be careful with air hose on your machine. As you can blow chips in areas that could cause damage. I usually use paint brushes and a vaccuum cleaner. And wiped clean with shop towels. Some places I worked for back in the day, air blowers were a NoNo! Hope this helps. Have a great day.👍👍💯
@@edsmachine93 Thank you Ed. I am in a big dilemma and I don't know if I will use this system for a long time. It's very effective but it smells a bit. If I don't find an efficient vapor exhaust system, I'll probably give up. I will go back to simple and healthy methods. Thanks for the suggestions !
Yes, it was an idea, but I had to order a magnetic base and I needed it as soon is possible.Anyway, from the position where it is now, I will not move it. Maybe I won't use it because inhaling the vapors can be dangerous. I just found out from the comments. Thank you for your suggestion !
i have seen several setups. one idea i really like an want to try myself is where they made a bracket that bolts to the rear trailing side of the cross slide. then bolt the block to that and go from there. I wonder if you bolted the block to the bed side, used rubber liens for metter flexability and made a small block where the sprayer comes out of and 2 inlets muck liek what you have there and that bolts to the adapter on the cross slide. this way rubber lines flex better and the hard lines bring it from the compressor and oiling to the lathe itself. jsut osme ideas. I love the ideas and work you do bud, please keep it up!!!!
I discover every day that any idea can be improved, without exception. This is something that makes me happy. Thank you Mike for your encouragement and appreciation. It means a lot to me.
You NEED a Fogbuster type coolant sprayer that doesn't mist. It forms directed fine droplets that only land on the part and cutter. No fog formed at all. I have one real Fogbuster, and there is one other company that makes a pretty direct similar device, SST Lube Cube. I hear they are also very good and equivalent. I am collecting enough parts and pieces to make myself about 4 more of them. I have one on my mill, I want two (one on each side of the spindle). Then I want one my 1440 lathe, and at least one on my band saw. You can make them portable easily enough as they only need about 15psi +/- to run, but who wants to move things around if you don't have to?
Your idea is good and it is not difficult to build. Someone said here that a cold air gun tool is also a healthy and useful choice. Thank you for your comment !
We have those problems with companies all the time, send stuff that is not what we ordered and when you complain to company, some how we're the bad guys 🙄 sad state of affairs in the world with these people taking our money 💰 and sending us junk instead of what we paid for!!! We actually purchased one of those mist coolant systems like you originally ordered, but even the suction tube was way shorter than advertised and had to get company to correct the issue!!
My explanation is that they have so many orders and packages to send that they make such mistakes. Why is an image of a superior product always presented and in the package there is an inferior one...that's another story :) What I noticed, however, is that this only happens to very cheap products and not to all stores. At least in my case.
This video shows where he mounted the coolant nozzle perm. he also used a flex line. at the other end you could make the splitter block and attach it to the lathe bed by the head. (sorry list link to first video) ruclips.net/video/x0m3tHwM54g/видео.html
So I not 100% sure but unless the block is bored straight through it should use compressed air to lift coolant on one side using the venturi . It looks a lot like the ones we have at work.
pretty please uninstall the mister, it is an idea that looks great on paper, but is horrible in reality. I had one as well. the mister puts coolant everywhere, but not in quantity where it is needed. it also puts it into the air and into your lungs, and this stuff is bad for your lungs. i was using koolmist 77, and gave away the 3.8l i had left. koolmist had left a blue sticky residue everywhere. I switched over to another coolant, which is intended as a flood coolant, and use it mostly with a 250ml squeeze bottle. I have changed the spray mister to a dripper, and this is fed from a garden sprayer under pressure. flood cooant really cleans up easy, I just blow dry with compressed air, and maybe a bit a washdown with WD40 afterwards. you need to protect your ways, bott with mist and flood coolant, especially the area under the chuck. I made something from vinyl blinds, dripping into a pan in the back. i blocked off the t-slots in the front and the sides with plugs cut from soft silicone to prevent coolant dripping off there, and only drain towards the back. but please, do not use the mister
I am honestly in a big dilemma. It is a method widely used by experienced machinists. I was so happy that I finally solved one problem but it looks like I ran into another one. It's an issue I honestly hadn't considered until you comments. I didn't think about the risks of inhalig a dangerous substance. It was suggested to me in a comment that the solution might be an external air exhaust system from the spray area. I have something like that but not of great power. Thank you for sharing your experience with us and for your concern.
Yes, unless you are scrupulous about cleaning the machine after using mist will make a sticky mess. In the home shop even using flood coolant is not something I would recommend. In a job shop where the machine is used daily, keeping the coolant from turning into a smelly mess requires constant attention. In the home shop leaving coolant for a week in hot, humid conditions will leave the place smelling bad and a good way to get dermatitis on your hands. If you really need coolant, you might consider a cold air gun. Would be a good project to build on the lathe vs. buying one.
The only drawback is the possible danger of inhaling the vapors. Otherwise, the method was good, especially for the milling machine where the chips were removed by pressure and the filming became explicit for the viewers. That's why many youtubers use this system. Thank you for your comment !
I am grateful for your comment. I don't know what solution I bought, but it is surprising to me that it is odorless. Next week I will read the label myself :) I had no idea about the cold air gun. Thanks for the suggestion and I will probably build one.
All you need to do is put the fluid in on the valve port and the air on the other port. The air flow across the fluid port creates the venturi to draw the fluid into themair stream. I would move the valve to the air input and just direct connect the fluid as fluid flow can be adjusted by air flow
Yes. There are many methods. I think the liquid pan can be mounted above the level. Gravity would help a lot. Thank you for your comment !
@@JIMMY916No, it will siphon all of your liquid.
I was thinking about the help of gravity but with regulation of the flow through the tap. To no longer depend on air absorption. The only problem would be that I inadvertently forget to turn off the liquid valve when stopping work. It would be an unpleasant surprise next day.
I’m going though this process right now. The air pressure to Venturi the coolant out the tank is higher than I want. So I’ve pressurised the coolant tank using 3D printed parts and run a tap on the coolant line. Still in building phase but hopeful I can run much lower psi to achieve the same result. Plus have independent coolant and air taps.
Yes, it is a system that can be improved very easily. Thank you for your comment !
G’day mate now that is something that I need those blue chips hurt, good job well thought out kind regards John
Thank you John ! Nice words as usual.
I wonder how safe it is to stand in a cloud of aerosolized lubricant?
WOW. I really didn't think of that. Maybe someone who has been using something like this for a long time can answer us. This is indeed a good question. Thank you !
Technically not good but with the exception of factory’s with a large numbers of CNC machine centers with mist collection nobody I know worries about it unless you get some kind of allergic reaction .
There are several types of emulsion. Are they all identical or do they contain different components ? I don't think that the manufacturer's labels specify whether or not it is dangerous for health. This information should be mandatory.
@@JIMMY916just in general i've found machining in a small space impacts air quality significantly. I have a bunch of air monitors from work that track particulates, various chemicals, vapours etc. Doing basic machining with cutting oils, lubricants etc set off a few alarms. That was without coolant running. Might just have been because i'm crap at machining. No idea if high particulates and chemicals in the air are much of a health issue but i prefer to have decent air flow through my workshop just to be safe. Set up a cheap extractor fan and air quality quickly improved.
Thank you for the information. My workshop is a little bigger than a matchbox and that is quite a problem for ventilation. I will look into this very carefully and use the solution you provided. But I seriously wonder if it's worth the risk. However, I have an amateur consolation.. I rarely work compared to those who have this job and work daily. Thank you for your time !
Nice job Jimmy.
Good idea.
You could make a restrictive orifice for the coolant siphon hose.
It may restrict the coolant enough to solve your problem.
Also, be careful with air hose on your machine.
As you can blow chips in areas that could cause damage.
I usually use paint brushes and a vaccuum cleaner.
And wiped clean with shop towels.
Some places I worked for back in the day, air blowers were a NoNo!
Hope this helps.
Have a great day.👍👍💯
@@edsmachine93 Thank you Ed. I am in a big dilemma and I don't know if I will use this system for a long time. It's very effective but it smells a bit. If I don't find an efficient vapor exhaust system, I'll probably give up. I will go back to simple and healthy methods. Thanks for the suggestions !
@@JIMMY916 I understand about the healthy choices Jimmy.
I build engines, cast iron, grinding and honing oil is always a concern.
Take care, Ed.
@@edsmachine93 For you, who are a pro and spend a lot of time in the workshop, this problem is more important. Thank you Ed ! Take care of you too.
You might find that mounting the valve block and outlet to an old cheap magnetic indicator to base may be more convenient for you
Yes, it was an idea, but I had to order a magnetic base and I needed it as soon is possible.Anyway, from the position where it is now, I will not move it. Maybe I won't use it because inhaling the vapors can be dangerous. I just found out from the comments. Thank you for your suggestion !
i have seen several setups. one idea i really like an want to try myself is where they made a bracket that bolts to the rear trailing side of the cross slide. then bolt the block to that and go from there. I wonder if you bolted the block to the bed side, used rubber liens for metter flexability and made a small block where the sprayer comes out of and 2 inlets muck liek what you have there and that bolts to the adapter on the cross slide. this way rubber lines flex better and the hard lines bring it from the compressor and oiling to the lathe itself. jsut osme ideas. I love the ideas and work you do bud, please keep it up!!!!
I discover every day that any idea can be improved, without exception. This is something that makes me happy. Thank you Mike for your encouragement and appreciation. It means a lot to me.
Funny. I have brought a misting system myself.
It's really an improvement, just possibly unhealty. Thank you sir for your comment !
You NEED a Fogbuster type coolant sprayer that doesn't mist. It forms directed fine droplets that only land on the part and cutter. No fog formed at all. I have one real Fogbuster, and there is one other company that makes a pretty direct similar device, SST Lube Cube. I hear they are also very good and equivalent. I am collecting enough parts and pieces to make myself about 4 more of them. I have one on my mill, I want two (one on each side of the spindle). Then I want one my 1440 lathe, and at least one on my band saw. You can make them portable easily enough as they only need about 15psi +/- to run, but who wants to move things around if you don't have to?
Your idea is good and it is not difficult to build. Someone said here that a cold air gun tool is also a healthy and useful choice. Thank you for your comment !
We have those problems with companies all the time, send stuff that is not what we ordered and when you complain to company, some how we're the bad guys 🙄 sad state of affairs in the world with these people taking our money 💰 and sending us junk instead of what we paid for!!! We actually purchased one of those mist coolant systems like you originally ordered, but even the suction tube was way shorter than advertised and had to get company to correct the issue!!
My explanation is that they have so many orders and packages to send that they make such mistakes. Why is an image of a superior product always presented and in the package there is an inferior one...that's another story :) What I noticed, however, is that this only happens to very cheap products and not to all stores. At least in my case.
i like it from pakistan
Welcome, my friend !
This video shows where he mounted the coolant nozzle perm. he also used a flex line. at the other end you could make the splitter block and attach it to the lathe bed by the head. (sorry list link to first video)
ruclips.net/video/x0m3tHwM54g/видео.html
Thank you for your suggestion !
So I not 100% sure but unless the block is bored straight through it should use compressed air to lift coolant on one side using the venturi .
It looks a lot like the ones we have at work.
I think an improvement would be to move the liquid container above the level. Thank you for your comment !
I just put a magnet on mine so I can move it anywhere.
So did I, first job, works a treat.
Thats a good idea.
I needed something like this, especially since my hobby machines are a bit outdated. Thank you for your comment !
pretty please uninstall the mister, it is an idea that looks great on paper, but is horrible in reality. I had one as well. the mister puts coolant everywhere, but not in quantity where it is needed. it also puts it into the air and into your lungs, and this stuff is bad for your lungs. i was using koolmist 77, and gave away the 3.8l i had left. koolmist had left a blue sticky residue everywhere. I switched over to another coolant, which is intended as a flood coolant, and use it mostly with a 250ml squeeze bottle. I have changed the spray mister to a dripper, and this is fed from a garden sprayer under pressure.
flood cooant really cleans up easy, I just blow dry with compressed air, and maybe a bit a washdown with WD40 afterwards.
you need to protect your ways, bott with mist and flood coolant, especially the area under the chuck. I made something from vinyl blinds, dripping into a pan in the back. i blocked off the t-slots in the front and the sides with plugs cut from soft silicone to prevent coolant dripping off there, and only drain towards the back.
but please, do not use the mister
I am honestly in a big dilemma. It is a method widely used by experienced machinists. I was so happy that I finally solved one problem but it looks like I ran into another one. It's an issue I honestly hadn't considered until you comments. I didn't think about the risks of inhalig a dangerous substance. It was suggested to me in a comment that the solution might be an external air exhaust system from the spray area. I have something like that but not of great power. Thank you for sharing your experience with us and for your concern.
Yes, unless you are scrupulous about cleaning the machine after using mist will make a sticky mess. In the home shop even using flood coolant is not something I would recommend. In a job shop where the machine is used daily, keeping the coolant from turning into a smelly mess requires constant attention. In the home shop leaving coolant for a week in hot, humid conditions will leave the place smelling bad and a good way to get dermatitis on your hands.
If you really need coolant, you might consider a cold air gun. Would be a good project to build on the lathe vs. buying one.
@@JIMMY916 I don't think it is a method widely used (anymore), and I just hope the hobby machinists stop using it asap.
The only drawback is the possible danger of inhaling the vapors. Otherwise, the method was good, especially for the milling machine where the chips were removed by pressure and the filming became explicit for the viewers. That's why many youtubers use this system. Thank you for your comment !
I am grateful for your comment. I don't know what solution I bought, but it is surprising to me that it is odorless. Next week I will read the label myself :) I had no idea about the cold air gun. Thanks for the suggestion and I will probably build one.