Making barrel rifling using steel tubes
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Making barrel rifling using steel tubes
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In this video I will show barrel rifling for a 5.5mm, or .22 cal tube using an allen key. the same allen key method can be used for other calibers too, just make sure that the rifling button is 0.1mm-0.2mm bigger in diameter than the barrel inner (bore) diameter. In my case I used a 5.62mm button for a 5.48mm tube, and it worked quite well as you can see in the video. This barrel will be used for gas propelled PCPs.
Note: This video is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Do not emulate or copy anything you see in this video.
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Nice video and very educative. But an urgent message from my side: NEVER WEAR GLOVES WHEN WORKING ON A LATHE ! The chance that your glove will be caught by a rotating workpiece is significant. You can imagine what this does to your fingers... or even worse. In my career as a technician I once witnessed a young guy who was found death on a lathe. It was a horrible experience. He was working alone in a shop. He wore gloves while working on the lath, he was sanding/polishing a rotating piece of tubing in the lath. The rotating tube caught his glove, then his sleeve and then his work jacked. The poor boy was strangled to death. The lath blocked while the motor kept running, the V belt started to heat up and caused a lot of smoke that came out from under the door. People in the area noticed this and so they went inside the shop and found the poor guy. Even now I get goosebumps when I think about it.
something similar once happend to me. during the first few month as an apprentice i worked alone on a drillpress in the shop for the first time. did some special parts and wore gloves. it was a rather big and weird shaped piece of metal so i coudnt fixate it to the vice, so i was holding it. than it slipped out of my hand and a sharp corner cought my glove and ripped if from hand and instantly wrapped it around the drillbit/workpiece. luckily that was not my hand. never ever wore gloves around spinning machines and always fixed workpieces in a vice since then.
There was another video that my eldest son showed me too. I've never been more terrified of a price of equipment as I was when I saw the poor guy get basically rolled up by an industrial lathe.
It was beyond horrifying to watch as his clothing was about all that held together as it wrapped him Backwards onto the lathe while the repeated slams basically burst his tissues til there was nothing left😔
I made a sine bar machine which allows me to make different twist rates but a lot of work...this method you come up with is perfect for people with minimal tooling excellent idea mate well done
Sounds great!
Yes, this works really well and can be made with just an angle grinder, torch and some very basic tools. The end result looked better than I expected, very clean grooves.
Cano calibre 22LR ou 3,57 Magnum?
Lol.. The comments are priceless 'Thanks this lets me do illegal things in my country'. Others suggest better tools or a more sturdy frying pan. Since this is for a PCP airgun.. Ever thought of buying a break barrel airgun replacement barrel ? Last time I bought one myself was for a Benjamin Trail and it was like $25 shipped. For $110 you can get a FX impact liner (sold with various twist rates) and then solder or epoxy it to one of your cheap pipes, or wrap it with Carbon fiber. Sometimes something that can be made cheaply with the tools at hand cost more in money and time than a proven product off the shelf. Good luck!
I cannot get any of them shipped to my country. This was an experiment and the barrel ended up being quite accurate, I will experiment more methods of rifling on my channel for sure.
I love this. Thanks for sharing. All the people complaining probably can’t even hammer a nail to hang a picture on the wall
one of the best rifling jobs ive seen
thank you! I hope it will shoot as good as it looks
To make the button, you can use a drill bit as well, it's usually made of well suited HSS steel and you just have to drive it trough the barrel twice to get the necessary grooves.
Yep, there are many more methods I plan trying
the width of the rifling should be greater than the width of the fields or the same, such a barrel will greatly spoil lead bullets, which means that the accuracy will be poor. I used to make a button on a lathe using a knurling with a straight tooth and a pitch of 1.2 mm, which was equal to 12 threads of 5.5 mm.
I was thinking you could start with a larger Allen wrench for the steel stock. Machine it to the standards you mentioned, for equal & flat lands & grooves, then heat & twist.
De l’artisanat, belles rayures 👍
I would have made the rifling cutter bit longer to prevent any possibility of wedging sideways into the tunnel. While highly unlikely, you are using impacts to drive the bit through and just a little bit of torsional momentum could theoretically cause one blade edge to really dig in and ruin your barrel. I forget the length to width ratio of what you need but it's not a lot longer than what you have. Just a thought. I think it's great even as is.
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This was my first time rifling a barrel, and I will still try many other methods
Very innovative. Looking forward to use it in Pcp. 😀
Excellent. Ive seen ppl break many of the cheap chinese buttons that are the only thing available in many places
cool work lad
thanks man
Ok brother i am waiting next part for test👍
That was very impressive hope it tests well I have always been impressed with what a machinist can build I wish I had you skills if you lived near me in Louisiana USA I would enjoy being a friend to learn things the laws here are very favorable for hunters and sportsman but demoncracts are working hard to take that away I wish you well and if you ever want to move look this way hats off to you 👍
I admire your work, but a rifling button is just about 12$ ishhh so it's not practical to waste your time make all those fuzz? Furthermore you are not even sure how accurate the results would be? If it fails, you wasted time plus the tube you ruined. So why not buy the real thing?? It cost just less than 20 bucks
@@mrkalikutista8729 I would need more than just a rifling button. Commercial rifling buttons cannot be hammered and need tons of pressure, which will end up costing me a lot more than just 12$
@@pcpairgunschannel you're wrong you can do the same hammering with the cheap commercial one. Or use a bottle type car jack to push the rod instead of hammering it. Google hammer button, it's a good button, im using that one, stay away from those cheap chinese craps.
your mind is so limited
@pcpairgunschanneive hammered commercial buttons on ebay.. l
@@mrkalikutista8729 - Fun. You can also buy the stuff already finished.
- Unavailability due to local regulations.
Buen desarrollo en el estriado de su cañón al menos una idea que muchas personas desconoce lo que sin trucos falta probar la precisión ahí es donde en realidad se obtiene el resultado de su trabajo 😊😊😊😊😊
Excelente amigo, esperamos las pruebas, nosotros podemos construir nuestras propias herramientas, ya que el button rifling se puso escaso, y costoso, hice uno de una broca de acero rapido
Wow, you are a genius
Very Nice Job !
That's really good rifling bro!
Thanks! Let's see the results.
@airsight Idol. pariho kayong magaling gumawa ng airgun. Idol ko kayong dalawa.😊
The most detailed video I've actually seen on this method to date and I've watched a few of them, keep up your good work my friend.
Thank you!! 👍
Had a .22 with a smooth bore barrell,,,power was magic and did not see any accuracy problems,,,smooth is cool dude ,?
Rifling gives better results
Молодец! Я делаю кнопку из шарикоподшипника,потом на токарнике с помощью болгарки прорезаю нарезки.И да,лучше всего проталкивать получается мощной дрелью-перфоратором.Плюс смазка машинная не годится-лучше использовать олеиновую кислоту с литол-24.Удачи в хобби!
Спасибо! Очень интересно 😮
Yep Hammer drill. Or an Air tool
Проталкивать лучше гидравлическим прессом.
@@pcpairgunschannel И да, на али и правда можно купить дорны для нарезей. Я раньше искал по запросу "rfling button" и ничего не находил, но по запросу "helical push drill" они вполне находятся.
@@andrsivohin8167 Круто. Я тоже на токарнике кнопку делаю и на нём сразу накаткой делаю канавки, накатка прямозубая с небольшим уклоном и шагом от 1 до 1,5мм в зависимости сколько нужно нарезов. Смазка на основе серы, талька и коллоидного графита и желательно канал обрабатывать тиосульфатом, как то так.
Good result 👍
Innovative!- but you can't 'upset' carbon steel on the back of an old frying pan. get a piece of railway track or a truck flywheel. Im off to watch some more of your videos. Ive had airguns for 50 years - and never learned so much. thanks
@@t.h.o.r. Thanks 🙏
tanks for the video super cool job !!
Glad you liked it!
Excelente trabajo de la estria del cañón creo que ahora le haces la recámara para el casquillo o bala y el percutor
Awesome guessing the steel tube and bars came from Alli express.. super tek brake cleaner spray cleans out oils super quick
man, you are the true hero!
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This is a good result, I have tried it 🇮🇩🇮🇩
@@DewaSenapanIndonesia 👍👍
La idea es lo que hace evolucionar el ser humano, y que no se acostumbre a depender de lo que esta hecho sino a elaborar sus propias herramientas..Si las ideas no se hacen no sirven. Mi padre me lo decia..
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Dont grind on the side of your wheel like that, its not designed for it and the wheel can explode after a while ...
Monitor my friend 👍 from Indonesia 💯👌
Would it not be better to start with a 6 mm Allen wrench and grind it down to what you want ?
That would work and I did try it but I didn't achieve as good precision with it. It's about skill so if you can manage to do it and keep the sides consistent in size then you can do it.
Bravo ci voglio provare anch'io 💪💪🙋
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😮woww its great work again idol.
How Dana says:"Its ******* unlegal...😂
Gloves make me uncomfortable
Yeah, while operating a lathe gloves should not be worn. I have quit that and won't be doing it again.
Debio poner un paño o una madera para que las limaduras no caigan sobre las guias del torno ya que pueden perjudicarlas😮
Es cierto que mientras lijaba debería haberlo hecho.
Wearing gloves while operating a lathe? Bruh....
I'd use a skrew bit, little harder
Really good Works Bro. Gratulation. Best Regards from Germany.
Much appreciated!
Excellent idea, thank you for sharing! : )
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Gracias por la idea la pondre en practica elabora uno para .38 o enviame las medidas .
¡Excelente! También puedes usar un escariador para hacer las ranuras, si lo giras de la misma manera. Sólo una herramienta de corte que sea al menos 0,1-0,2 mm más grande que el diámetro interior del cañón.
¿de dónde eres? Lo siento, no hablo español.
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А не фэйк ли это. Нарезка обычно делается на спец приспособлении, здесь же я не видел ничего, что контролирует правильность нарезки канавок. Плюс когда человек резцом не может поймать середину а потом напильником в токарном стачивает металл это наводит на мысли о уровне мастерства .
so quality air gun with mechanism,only change barrel and have 22LR?Am i right?Can you give advice of some good cheap air gun?Thanx
Is it necessary the water to contain salt for the heat treatment to get the steel hardened?
If its not hardened the button will deform and not cut so well. You can also dip it in oil but you need to temper it so its not too brittle
@@pcpairgunschannel I asked you, if the water for the heat treatment is necessary to be salt water. Is it?
@@Mazarakis_Spyridon Yes, it won't work with just water.
Edit: it actually will work, but won't be nearly as effective.
@@pcpairgunschannel Thank you!
Чистота поверхности плохая. Взял бы покупной китайский дорн.
Top 10
это мусор а не протяжка!
Gunakan steel wool bro,agar lebih bersih
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Im eager to see the results.
will use this for a PCP pistol. Stay tuned!
I’d suggest quenching it in oil next time
Salt water works too, but oil is better, yeah. You just need to temper it after
@@pcpairgunschannelyeah, I forgot to temper a knife once and it just snapped in two
In 11 Stunden seit ihr in Moskau, Prigoschin wurde auch nicht aufgehalten.
I love it...can i have one for my pcp
Sorry, I cannot ship it
hasil kerja yang baik,selepas ni tolong buat cetakan peluru..
i queda un estriado bien preciso
donde consiguió ese tubo para un 5.5 estimado.
AliExpress. Enlace en la descripción
Amigo esta llave allen en realidad se deja templar para hacer el estriado ?
¿Cómo lo usarías para moletear?
Lo siento no habla español
Good iob but the pitch seems too short.
I really can't understand how it can twist on its own without having something attached that turns it, and in the end you bang it in, and I don't understand, even though it is SLIGHTLY twisted, how you can make the barrel rifled just by banging it in, it doesn't make sense for myself
The twist of the button forces it to twist around
It's the same as a screw into wood
Rifling lands too wide
Awesome stuff! One question, should it have a chamfer where the projectile leaves the barrel? I've never tried to make something of this sort, but was taught not to ruin the sharp edge on the end of the barrel of my 6.5x55 mm rifle.
Yes, it should be chamfered. It's called "barrel crowning", in the video I did that with high grit sandpaper and an 8mm steel ball, after chamfering the end with a drill bit. That might not sound very precise, but it actually leaves a very fine finish. Some rifle barrels might have different designs, others may have sharp precise non-chamfered ends while others have a deep chamfer. Search "barrel crowning" on Google and check the images, you'll see many different designs.
Also, in my case this will not be used for a firearm, but for a PCP air gun.
@@pcpairgunschannel ah, I see, cool! Awesome to learn new things!
Pefect I have doone almoust the same way, but you do better.magnifecent.Kranj Europe.
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Молодец
dont use gloves with a grinder or lathe
google hand de-glove work safe.
gloves drage the fingers in and rip them off - no glove you go och thats hot and a cut
Really amazing. But why do you beat and knock over it after heating it?
because it was only 5.55mm in diameter, that's not enough for rifling. I increased the diameter by doing that, it ended up being 5.62mm
@@pcpairgunschannel 😁😁😁Great, I thought that was likely, but I wanted to make sure.....but did you know why I wanted an Arabic translation? So that I can understand and follow what you are saying. Greetings
@@pcpairgunschannel Весьма оригинально и главное просто. при наличии расширенного разнообразия оборудования есть возможность делать нарезы более технологичней и точнее. я нарезал нарезы спецрезцом изготовленным из шестиперьевой развертки, ленточка режущей части шлифовалась до необходимого размера и длина этой ленты оставлялась на 1.5мм.это и являлось шириной нарезного канала. станок токарный с автоматической подачей суппорта. есть и ускоренная подача, ствол зажимается в патроне. ставятся малые обороты, из ствола выходит приваренная оправка к резаку из развертки. она зажимается в резцодержатель. патрон вращается ничего не происходит и тут включается подача ускоренная вправо. равномерно вытягивает оправку с резцом . при этом выходит и стружка. так как заточка режет металл в стволе. происходит именно нарезка каналов. ваш метод конечно более простой и многим доступнее, но он продавливает каналы. свинцовая пуля мягкая и принимает размер ствола. и даже по вашему методу пуле легче идти по каналам продавленным, они ведь гладкие без всяких там мельчайших зазубрин. ваш метод считаю оптимальным для самодельщиков......удачи вам и желаю быть осторожным с законами.
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Nice video. Why do you put salt in your quenching water?
@@LuluBear974 cools down the Steel faster, making it harder
Oil also works
@pcpairgunschannel At sea level plain pure water boil at 100°C and works just fine. This is why I don't understand the salt part. At sea level, saturated sodium chlorine brine has a boiling point of 108.7°C, and contains 28.41% NaCl... that isn't a big difference enough to justify salt use. Moreover oil also works even though it boils between 200 and 300°C and the higher the quenching temperature the lesser the hardening but still is ok. Do you put your brine in the freezer or use ice cubes to lower brine temperature below 0°C ?
@@LuluBear974 you are right that pure water works too.
However its not about the boiling point only but also the thermal conductivity and the density. Salt water is denser and has better thermal conductivity
@@pcpairgunschannel 👍
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Cuidado al trabajar en el torno con esos guantes amigo....si llega a agarrar su mano ?😢
Tienes razón, ya no uso guantes mientras manejo un torno.
Where did you get the steel tube? Great video
@@CarpinteroJesus Hi, there is a link in the description if you want to buy
Isn't the button supposed to be sharp to cut the rifling?
No metal cutting tool needs to be sharp like a kitchen knife, rifling buttons dont need sharp edges
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What kind of barrel you use?
its a blank steel tube, link in description
Complimenti.
What twist you made in that barrel ?
@@user-ld6te5zr7i it’s just eyeballed, no accurate maths. It still gave good accuracy, check my latest shorts video
Making rifle barrels using tube steels (:
so what do you think of this rifling technique?
Kombinerki w plastikach palnikiem ? Ciarach !😢
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Faça uma câmara e uma coroa
Isto é para uma pistola PCP. Vídeos em breve
Шаг нарезов? ХЗ, он есть
5.62mm - 5.48mm, 0.14mm
Big no no, for working on a lathe with gloves on!!!
Stop that immediately for your own sake because it could get you killed very, very quickly and easily so.
Otherwise well done, but the gloves...
Nah ahhh!
Yup, I quit that. It's a mini lathe so it probably wouldn't have caused serious injuries but better to be safe than sorry... And if I one day get a big lathe and had that habit...
@@pcpairgunschannel
Good! :)
You phrased it perfectly!
Better not let the habit settle while it's just a wee little lathe and then take it over to the bigger machines that might come in the future eventually.
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Hey sir, how do I even make a barrel if it's so specific for 7.62mm?
@@arielsgood4972 you can buy precision tubes
精度怎么样
我将在几周内用这个枪管制作一把手枪。然后我会上传一段测试准确性的视频。
@@pcpairgunschannel 非常期待
Sir is long valve better than short valve?
No difference, they are just different designs.
Where is the follow up accuracy vid??
@@RonBateman-vl2wz coming. I am yet to build a PCP pistol
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Steel tube what product
I put a link in the description
На видео ствол выглядит неплохо, но хотелось бы знать что за сталь и хорошо бы увидеть отстрел с этих стволов метров на 50 для начала. Благодарю.
what heat treatment should the barrel have when using a 1000 Joules mounting cartridge 27cal?
@@user-ph2lk2rs9e Sorry I dont have experience with gun barrels, this is for a PCP air gun
You could probably Google that,as you well know.give the kid a break😂😂😂
Neato!
How many long pcp gun berral ?❤❤❤
this is 300mm long, but you can use 200mm, 400mm, 500mm, 700mm... anything you want. this will be used for a PCP pistol.
@@pcpairgunschannel thanku....how can I buying this pcp gun barrel..I want to this barrel..Plzz help me...
@@sonakhuraijam7223 Due to courier policy i can't deliver my own products.
You can make it the same way as I did it in the video, you can buy blank tube and rifle it yourself like I did it in this video.
If AliExpress doesn't work you can buy it from ebay also, just search "hydraulic steel pipe"
Hmmm😏
♥♥good job. Well done.. but how accurate is it? A video of the accuracy, please. Is this method effective, please? I would like to activate the translation into Arabic so that all the benefits can be spread. I have translation programs, but they are not accurate in terminology and some words. Video translation is not sufficient. Greetings from Egypt.. and we are waiting for the accuracy video
Thank you!
I will upload testing videos in a few weeks, using a PCP pistol.
@@pcpairgunschannel Waiting.. Greetings