What do people want them do do?.. we all know funding is needed. If they cut cost spending people complain about vulnerability, if the tax the rich people say they'll scare them off , if they tax workers people will be up in arms, if they borrow people's will call them irresponsible, if they tax business people say it will drive up unemployment.... how else are funds to be raised?
Have these people got nothing else to talk about? Just wait like the rest of us or talk about Charlie boy's undeclared gifts. Get on with it Rachel, we've waited too long for the change and hope. Support working families as the number one priority
I must say that I am getting very unhappy about this continued mention of 'working people' and the strong implication that anyone who is not working has no right to be considered? What about pensioners, the disabled; homemakers, carers to name but a few. Why are they not worthy of consideration?
@@PJH13 again when they were given NI cuts in Jan 2024 this did not result in an increase in people's salary. In fact based on the same OBR your quote and ONR wage increased more under the older NI rate pre Jan decrease. Its all speculative BS. Business exist to make money to make money they need to incentivise people they will pay people. Any excuse to not tax business.
@@mzo.7333 We'll see, there's a lag period between the change and its effects being felt (businesses obviously don't cut or increase pay the moment an indirect tax change comes in). As for your second argument, businesses also need to sell products to make money and to do that they need to incentivise customers by offering lower prices. Nobody would call it speculative though, to say that VAT gets passed onto customers.
80% of the increase is passed on to employees (per the OBR) so it still affects them. They also included VAT in the promise, which is like NI in that the charge technically gets paid by business but gets passed on to consumers
@@PJH13 they were given a generous break in 2024 it didn't encourage them to uplift employing people... how comes it only works one way?? We always find excuses when its time to tax businesses (especially big ones) and rich people. The state needs funds how else is it supposed to raise it.
How do you work that one out? If I own and work in a pub that employs six people, and I have to pay extra NI, they would not get a pay rise due to my increased employer contributions. Fair enough for Amazon, Tesco etc, but all this will do is suppress wages for people on already modest incomes.
Just let them get on with it and judge them after. Everybody is saying they are sick of media speculation, especially from torygraph. It's about time media listen instead of having their collective breakdown now that Tory party isn't giving them a story every 5 mins.
Because questioning the tories does nothing for people who are struggling TODAY. The Tory party is not in power anymore. The government were elected promising to fix the fact nothing works. It is the media’s job to question them on how and why they’re slow at doing it.
World Financial crash was under labour , Tory’s trebled the national debt , increased tax burden to highest ever and was the only country in the g30 4 years on from covid starting have a lower standard of living than before covid , but apart from that your correct
Must admit this is reaching guys. I think most people can distinguish between a person seeing more NI going out of their pay packets, and businesses paying more NI. This is weak reporting.
Tories reduced NI for employers in Jan 2024, knowing full well that they would not be in office to feel the consequences! Putting it back up by at least 1% is the sensible thing to do!
@@simony2801 But after 14 years of the Tories we have highest tax rate since WW2. Tories tax and give your money it to the rich to keep. Labour tax and put it into public services. It's your choice.
The Tories reduced it in 2024 to undo their own increase from earlier in the term. Stop resetting the normal level every time there's an increase or it'll only ever get higher
How on earth can anyone assume that the phrase "working persons" includes company NI contributions? Why are you slavishly mirroring the latest tory attack line?
I trust tomorrow you'll be discussing how this week the Tories threw tonnes of backbench parliamentary time at trying to protect hereditary peers' rights, and zero backbenchers' time discussing how we try to improve the situation for unpaid carers and how to improve the health system. After all, following the trail Tory backbenchers were literally the first thing you talked about.
This is daft: the quote from p21 of the manifesto is in a subsection of “Economic Stability” specifically talking about family finances. Business finances are dealt with in a completely different part of the manifesto & whilst they promised to freeze corporation tax, employer NCI weren’t mentioned so it could be deduced that was a possible target. It can be argued that this cost to business will have an effect on employees via staffing levels or lack of pay rises but there’s been no breech
Most people won't have heard this promise by reading the manifesto and seeing what chapter it's in, they will have heard Reeves and Starmer say it and taken the words 'we will not raise NI' at face value. A manifesto's not a legally binding contract either, technicalities aren't important, what matters is the way your statements are interpreted. If you've said something so deliberately misleading that everybody thinks you mean something else, that's on you, not them.
@@PJH13 Even if they haven’t, their campaign interviews & speeches always said the tax burden on working people was too high so they wouldn’t be raising VAT, income tax or NI for them. Working people(employees) were always talked about separately from business.
@@juliewatt1951 Their interviews also mentioned the overall tax burden and the promise on corp. tax in the same discussion as NI. If they meant employee NI they could've said that; it's one extra word, it's hard to see a reason not to, other than a cynical intent to mislead people. As for 'working people', Reeves herself has called it a 'tax on workers', because the OBR found 80% of the cost gets passed on to them - if workers aren't working people then who are?
Cmon guys, you're really struggling to find stuff to talk about.......cos there's no news like bad news.....must be so hard when a government is just getting on with it, disappointing from you guys.
Didn’t the Tories pick up on this during the election campaign and it was never denied. From my view it is clear and deliberate that they said working people. Politics has always been thus! What do they do? So many complain but don’t propose an alternative. No tax increase is easy. Fuel duty will probably go up? That costs individuals and businesses more.
How plain does he have to make it.? No NI hikes for employees,NI hikes for employers. He has een urged to reverse the Tory election bribe and reverse the NI cut to workers but he hasn't because that WOULD be breaking the mainfesto.
Uh, if he'd said it like that before the election fair enough. He didn't, he said 'no increases to NI, income tax or VAT'. That is as plain as day. If he's meant employee NI then it was deliberately misleading not to say that. If you're going to argue he said 'working people' then VAT is exactly like employer NI, it's a tax technically paid by business where most of the cost (80% per the OBR) gets passed on to employees/consumers
Starmer is a bare faced liar. A lawyer by name a liar by nature. When somebody says 'it's within the rules' it is not. Play by the rules applies to you but not not to me - clothes and concerts just part of the job... hahaha. The Labour manifesto must be a work of fiction. If it's in and you can twist it then everybody better go and check every word. If it's not in then anything goes like winter fuel.
Why do we get so much of American politics shoved at us and so little about Europe and our immediate neighbours. I’ve always wondered. It’s like we are having the special relationship forced to us? Is there an ulterior motive for this? Personally I’m sure it contributed to brexit vote outcome. It’s been this way as long as I can remember
What investment summit? Labour claimed £63bn jn investment, yet it took less than an hour to debunk most of it. Most of that investment was announced in 2023, the rest in March 24. These are just Tories in Red ties.
@@mentality-monster "It [NI] is the worst possible tax rise. This evidence shows that employees will be hit." - Rachel Reeves, 2022, following OBR research which showed 80% of an employer NI increase would be passed on to employees.
@mentality-monster you can own your own business and not earn a fortune. I run my own business and earn only slightly more than the people I employ. You can also own your own business and be working working class. These changes make you just want to pack in employing people and only take enough work for yourself
I would add this - we as a country have to decide whether we want European-style public service on North American level taxes. At the moment we are trying for the former with the latter. It clearly does not work and none of the political parties face up to the challenge. European-style public services mean higher taxes - particularly from those on middle incomes. It is all very well jumping up and down and demanding the rich pay more. We. know from government figures that the richest 1% of the population pay 30% if the tax. That reflects higher-rate tax band of 50% and 45%. I am not sure that it is fair to ask people to give the majority of their income to the State and I doubt whether they actually will so big increases in income tax are unlikely to be productive - or raise much more money. There is also the point that income tax - particularly the higher rates - is very expensive to administer. The Commons Treasury Committee has expressed the view that the highest rate of tax of 50% barely raises anything above the 45%. because of that cost. There is a lot of rhetoric and political fuss about all this but I think we need to consider the realities here.
Here is the reality. What other choice is there other than to increase taxes on wealth, employers, corporations etc. Anyone on 'average' incomes are already cut to the bone. There is simply no wriggle room for this income bracket. Increasing taxes on average income earners would likely lead to increased destitution, poor mental health, poorer physical health you know all the usual metrics. Which in turn costs the taxpayer more than it would raise. You will see outcry in the right wing media about how this will put small business owners out of business. The reality is it would likely be targeted/progressive.
I have the manifesto in front of me ! NO INCREASES IN NATIONAL INSURANCE FOR WORKING PEOPLE ! It says nothing about not raising it for employers. Owners and directors of companies are not workers. They pay others to do "The Work".
What do people want them do do?.. we all know funding is needed. If they cut cost spending people complain about vulnerability, if the tax the rich people say they'll scare them off , if they tax workers people will be up in arms, if they borrow people's will call them irresponsible, if they tax business people say it will drive up unemployment.... how else are funds to be raised?
Increase income tax also reduce wages. Employers can mitigate by reducing profits or transferring the cost to customers. But employees can’t mitigate. They may ask for a pay rise or maybe find a just better pay job, but both are not in their control. Your argument is copied from a Tory gaslighting bible?
Did you say the same thing when the Tory’s after saying 2019 manifesto increased NI contribution s and booted out this year leaving the average uk worker with the HiGHEST tax burden ever
The reasons we have an economic crisis in the UK, are: Real Wages far too low for the bottom 90% of working people. Tax for most above median earnings too low. Using tax revenues to pay for infrastructure investment when it should clearly be done by QE or borrowing (as that won't cause inflation due to multiplier effect) and housing costs are way too high a percentage of income.
@@timregester1173 We have the lowest tax burden on average incomes of any country in Europe, except Switzerland. In Germany or France a normal person pays c. 48% of their salary in payroll taxes, in the UK its 31%. If people really want to spend more they've got to be honest that those people are going to end up paying a lot more.
Maitlis, you’re using cliches, and all of you are being so trivial about Labour’s attempts to repair the damage done to this country. Stop trying to manufacture “gotcha” type moments and get back to serious journalism. If the problem is a director or a producer, then they have to go. I will not be insulted by shallow, fake analysis. Much more and I ditch you. You are disappointing.
What do people want them do do?.. we all know funding is needed. If they cut cost spending people complain about vulnerability, if the tax the rich people say they'll scare them off , if they tax workers people will be up in arms, if they borrow people's will call them irresponsible, if they tax business people say it will drive up unemployment.... how else are funds to be raised?
The issues is not raising tax. It's breaking the manifesto promise. I employ 10 people. I look at true cost of employment. A raise in Employer NI will reduce any future pay rise for workers. We will also take no more staff on under this government.
Nobody had guns to their heads as they painted themselves into a corner for an election they were winning by default anyway. They still theoretically have the option to raise capital gains tax in line with income tax but nobody yet knows what they promised to acquire shady capital from the 'philanthropist' who compred slightly higher tax to r@pe & the Caymen Islands based hedgefund they took in the last week so they didn't have to announce it until after the GE. Raising NI on employers is going to be manageable for large corporations & disproportionately affect the ability of small businesses to grow. The elephant in the room is the capital gains tax they won't raise because they get more donations from big business. It's Labour putting party first just like the Tories Same pish different bottle.
What do people want them do do?.. we all know funding is needed. If they cut cost spending people complain about vulnerability, if the tax the rich people say they'll scare them off , if they tax workers people will be up in arms, if they borrow people's will call them irresponsible, if they tax business people say it will drive up unemployment.... how else are funds to be raised?
Have these people got nothing else to talk about? Just wait like the rest of us or talk about Charlie boy's undeclared gifts. Get on with it Rachel, we've waited too long for the change and hope. Support working families as the number one priority
Do we want an NHS, social care and public services…? Well, we’re going to have to pay more tax. It really is that simple.
I must say that I am getting very unhappy about this continued mention of 'working people' and the strong implication that anyone who is not working has no right to be considered? What about pensioners, the disabled; homemakers, carers to name but a few. Why are they not worthy of consideration?
🤞🏻 I hope they raise taxes on the wealthiest people in our country 💯
Noone has ever thought a business as a working person... just the media kicking up a fuss
80% of employers NI gets passed on in lower wage increases (per the OBR)
@@PJH13 again when they were given NI cuts in Jan 2024 this did not result in an increase in people's salary. In fact based on the same OBR your quote and ONR wage increased more under the older NI rate pre Jan decrease.
Its all speculative BS. Business exist to make money to make money they need to incentivise people they will pay people.
Any excuse to not tax business.
@@mzo.7333 We'll see, there's a lag period between the change and its effects being felt (businesses obviously don't cut or increase pay the moment an indirect tax change comes in). As for your second argument, businesses also need to sell products to make money and to do that they need to incentivise customers by offering lower prices. Nobody would call it speculative though, to say that VAT gets passed onto customers.
So if you run a small shop, you are not working person? 😂
If you run a small business, and employ people, you usually survive on any profits. Those are the working people who will pay more here.
‘It sounds pretty sensible” Duh!
Lewis is just waffling. No one calls an employer an employee
80% of the increase is passed on to employees (per the OBR) so it still affects them. They also included VAT in the promise, which is like NI in that the charge technically gets paid by business but gets passed on to consumers
@@PJH13 they were given a generous break in 2024 it didn't encourage them to uplift employing people... how comes it only works one way?? We always find excuses when its time to tax businesses (especially big ones) and rich people. The state needs funds how else is it supposed to raise it.
@@mzo.7333 the latest YoY wage growth figures are 4.7%, whilst inflation's 1.7%. How are you so sure it didn't contribute to that?
I cannot understand why the press thinks anybody cares about employers NI being increased. It’s the weakest gotcha of all time!
How do you work that one out? If I own and work in a pub that employs six people, and I have to pay extra NI, they would not get a pay rise due to my increased employer contributions.
Fair enough for Amazon, Tesco etc, but all this will do is suppress wages for people on already modest incomes.
@@dannyquinn9128 Your employees have 6 votes you have one. They will be skeptical when you blame Labour for their lack of pay rise. Realpolitik.
@@ntr0pic It's nothing to do with who is in charge, I'd be saying the same thing if we still had the Conservatives.
I can't afford to do it.
Because the press correctly know that employer ni comes from a company's employee costs in their budgetting.
@@dannyquinn9128if you own a pub your probably paying people minimum wage 😂
I mean if they raise it on employers the employers are just gonna reduce the amount they pay the employee to offset their loss.
Just let them get on with it and judge them after. Everybody is saying they are sick of media speculation, especially from torygraph. It's about time media listen instead of having their collective breakdown now that Tory party isn't giving them a story every 5 mins.
Why aren't we questioning the Tories, the highest tax burden in decades and yet everything is still broken, how does that happen?
Financial crash, Covid, couple of wars
Labour look like they're going to make the situation they inherited a helluva lot worse
Yep. It's almost as though the independent experts espousing the benefits of public spending perhaps knew what they were talking about
Because questioning the tories does nothing for people who are struggling TODAY. The Tory party is not in power anymore. The government were elected promising to fix the fact nothing works. It is the media’s job to question them on how and why they’re slow at doing it.
World Financial crash was under labour , Tory’s trebled the national debt , increased tax burden to highest ever and was the only country in the g30 4 years on from covid starting have a lower standard of living than before covid , but apart from that your correct
Must admit this is reaching guys. I think most people can distinguish between a person seeing more NI going out of their pay packets, and businesses paying more NI. This is weak reporting.
Easy to sit there in your studio and critique
You're free not to watch
Tories reduced NI for employers in Jan 2024, knowing full well that they would not be in office to feel the consequences! Putting it back up by at least 1% is the sensible thing to do!
Labour tax and spend, tories let you keep YOUR money, it’s up to your choice.
@@simony2801*tories let the wealthy keep their money, and then cut services for everyone to compensate
@@simony2801 But after 14 years of the Tories we have highest tax rate since WW2. Tories tax and give your money it to the rich to keep. Labour tax and put it into public services. It's your choice.
@@simony2801 that's demonstrably untrue, to anyone willing to look at actual tax burden statistics. Embarrassing comment
The Tories reduced it in 2024 to undo their own increase from earlier in the term. Stop resetting the normal level every time there's an increase or it'll only ever get higher
Easy answer....... Are multi millionaires Piers Morgan or Simon Cowel
members of the working class ?????
Probably not.but hey, when you can't find something to attack labour for,why not make something up.everyone else is.
I should not have voted labour
How on earth can anyone assume that the phrase "working persons" includes company NI contributions? Why are you slavishly mirroring the latest tory attack line?
Every tax is either directly or indirectly a tax on working people.
Lewis , I love you but what on earth are you wearing
his old P.E kit under his old school uniform?
I trust tomorrow you'll be discussing how this week the Tories threw tonnes of backbench parliamentary time at trying to protect hereditary peers' rights, and zero backbenchers' time discussing how we try to improve the situation for unpaid carers and how to improve the health system. After all, following the trail Tory backbenchers were literally the first thing you talked about.
Why not!? Starmer does it all the time!
This is daft: the quote from p21 of the manifesto is in a subsection of “Economic Stability” specifically talking about family finances.
Business finances are dealt with in a completely different part of the manifesto & whilst they promised to freeze corporation tax, employer NCI weren’t mentioned so it could be deduced that was a possible target.
It can be argued that this cost to business will have an effect on employees via staffing levels or lack of pay rises but there’s been no breech
Most people won't have heard this promise by reading the manifesto and seeing what chapter it's in, they will have heard Reeves and Starmer say it and taken the words 'we will not raise NI' at face value.
A manifesto's not a legally binding contract either, technicalities aren't important, what matters is the way your statements are interpreted. If you've said something so deliberately misleading that everybody thinks you mean something else, that's on you, not them.
@@PJH13 Even if they haven’t, their campaign interviews & speeches always said the tax burden on working people was too high so they wouldn’t be raising VAT, income tax or NI for them. Working people(employees) were always talked about separately from business.
@@juliewatt1951 Their interviews also mentioned the overall tax burden and the promise on corp. tax in the same discussion as NI. If they meant employee NI they could've said that; it's one extra word, it's hard to see a reason not to, other than a cynical intent to mislead people.
As for 'working people', Reeves herself has called it a 'tax on workers', because the OBR found 80% of the cost gets passed on to them - if workers aren't working people then who are?
Cmon guys, you're really struggling to find stuff to talk about.......cos there's no news like bad news.....must be so hard when a government is just getting on with it, disappointing from you guys.
Didn’t the Tories pick up on this during the election campaign and it was never denied. From my view it is clear and deliberate that they said working people. Politics has always been thus!
What do they do? So many complain but don’t propose an alternative. No tax increase is easy. Fuel duty will probably go up? That costs individuals and businesses more.
6:20 Will employees not notice this when they do not get a pay rise because their employer cannot afford it due to the rise in NI?
This pair lean so far left it must be hard to walk in a straight line 😅
5 years from now no one will remember all of this, still less care.
How plain does he have to make it.? No NI hikes for employees,NI hikes for employers. He has een urged to reverse the Tory election bribe and reverse the NI cut to workers but he hasn't because that WOULD be breaking the mainfesto.
Uh, if he'd said it like that before the election fair enough. He didn't, he said 'no increases to NI, income tax or VAT'. That is as plain as day. If he's meant employee NI then it was deliberately misleading not to say that. If you're going to argue he said 'working people' then VAT is exactly like employer NI, it's a tax technically paid by business where most of the cost (80% per the OBR) gets passed on to employees/consumers
No it’s not
Starmer is a bare faced liar. A lawyer by name a liar by nature. When somebody says 'it's within the rules' it is not. Play by the rules applies to you but not not to me - clothes and concerts just part of the job... hahaha. The Labour manifesto must be a work of fiction. If it's in and you can twist it then everybody better go and check every word. If it's not in then anything goes like winter fuel.
Not a Tory by any chance are you?
Why do we get so much of American politics shoved at us and so little about Europe and our immediate neighbours. I’ve always wondered. It’s like we are having the special relationship forced to us? Is there an ulterior motive for this?
Personally I’m sure it contributed to brexit vote outcome. It’s been this way as long as I can remember
What investment summit? Labour claimed £63bn jn investment, yet it took less than an hour to debunk most of it. Most of that investment was announced in 2023, the rest in March 24.
These are just Tories in Red ties.
Employers are also workers and the NI they pay is a tax on workers.
Uninformed comment by someone who doesn't understand the class system. Likely a business owner.
@@mentality-monster "It [NI] is the worst possible tax rise. This evidence shows that employees will be hit." - Rachel Reeves, 2022, following OBR research which showed 80% of an employer NI increase would be passed on to employees.
@@PJH13so 20% less than a tax on workers?
@@chindit6784 so if they increase it by 2%, as has been discussed, that's a 1.6% tax on working people
@mentality-monster you can own your own business and not earn a fortune. I run my own business and earn only slightly more than the people I employ. You can also own your own business and be working working class. These changes make you just want to pack in employing people and only take enough work for yourself
I would add this - we as a country have to decide whether we want European-style public service on North American level taxes. At the moment we are trying for the former with the latter. It clearly does not work and none of the political parties face up to the challenge. European-style public services mean higher taxes - particularly from those on middle incomes. It is all very well jumping up and down and demanding the rich pay more. We. know from government figures that the richest 1% of the population pay 30% if the tax. That reflects higher-rate tax band of 50% and 45%. I am not sure that it is fair to ask people to give the majority of their income to the State and I doubt whether they actually will so big increases in income tax are unlikely to be productive - or raise much more money. There is also the point that income tax - particularly the higher rates - is very expensive to administer. The Commons Treasury Committee has expressed the view that the highest rate of tax of 50% barely raises anything above the 45%. because of that cost. There is a lot of rhetoric and political fuss about all this but I think we need to consider the realities here.
Sleight of hand by LABOUR.
Here is the reality. What other choice is there other than to increase taxes on wealth, employers, corporations etc. Anyone on 'average' incomes are already cut to the bone. There is simply no wriggle room for this income bracket. Increasing taxes on average income earners would likely lead to increased destitution, poor mental health, poorer physical health you know all the usual metrics. Which in turn costs the taxpayer more than it would raise. You will see outcry in the right wing media about how this will put small business owners out of business. The reality is it would likely be targeted/progressive.
The News Agents. Is this really news?
READ the Manifesto. You three are supposed to be proper journalists! Been taking lessons from L>K>?
Mr Kandahar?
I have the manifesto in front of me ! NO INCREASES IN NATIONAL INSURANCE FOR WORKING PEOPLE !
It says nothing about not raising it for employers.
Owners and directors of companies are not workers. They pay others to do "The Work".
What do you think the owner of a small business does... a pub landlord for instance!
Any increase in employers ni contributions is a tax on jobs which will reduce wages, increase unemployment and will drive up costs.
What do people want them do do?.. we all know funding is needed. If they cut cost spending people complain about vulnerability, if the tax the rich people say they'll scare them off , if they tax workers people will be up in arms, if they borrow people's will call them irresponsible, if they tax business people say it will drive up unemployment.... how else are funds to be raised?
Increase income tax also reduce wages.
Employers can mitigate by reducing profits or transferring the cost to customers. But employees can’t mitigate. They may ask for a pay rise or maybe find a just better pay job, but both are not in their control.
Your argument is copied from a Tory gaslighting bible?
Wow, economics 101...... dear me
Lets try trickle down economics again maybe that will work.
Did you say the same thing when the Tory’s after saying 2019 manifesto increased NI contribution s and booted out this year leaving the average uk worker with the HiGHEST tax burden ever
Tax. Tax. Tax. And then tax some more. FFS
The reasons we have an economic crisis in the UK, are: Real Wages far too low for the bottom 90% of working people. Tax for most above median earnings too low. Using tax revenues to pay for infrastructure investment when it should clearly be done by QE or borrowing (as that won't cause inflation due to multiplier effect) and housing costs are way too high a percentage of income.
@@timregester1173 We have the lowest tax burden on average incomes of any country in Europe, except Switzerland. In Germany or France a normal person pays c. 48% of their salary in payroll taxes, in the UK its 31%. If people really want to spend more they've got to be honest that those people are going to end up paying a lot more.
Maitlis, you’re using cliches, and all of you are being so trivial about Labour’s attempts to repair the damage done to this country. Stop trying to manufacture “gotcha” type moments and get back to serious journalism. If the problem is a director or a producer, then they have to go. I will not be insulted by shallow, fake analysis. Much more and I ditch you. You are disappointing.
Agree. I thought these people were rational and better than this.
What gotcha moment did they try to manufacture?
lewis: you speak too much... seriously... give room to others, man
Tories with red ties. Now they've got their snouts in the trough, no promise is worth the carbon dioxide emitted saying it.
How does raising NI for employers make them Tory? Sounds like you've just got a favourite slogan and want to blert it out whenever you can...
@@Sam.o.29 Dishonesty.
More than 20 minutes talking about Conservative internal party procedure. This is quite a boring, centrist dad, technocratic and uninsightful podcast.
anytime emily matlis' voice goes slightly husky while speaking she's expressing an opinion she doesn't actually believe in
Your username rules you out of the conversation.
Now you've actually changed your username.
What a pleb.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@dannyquinn9128
@@thomaspurdy7456 I'm not sure what your point is, considering it's just crying face emojis.
@@DEMODEMODEMODEMODEM Why did you change your username?
The Starmer party will rip up their manifesto and then tell everyone there never was a manifesto.
What do people want them do do?.. we all know funding is needed. If they cut cost spending people complain about vulnerability, if the tax the rich people say they'll scare them off , if they tax workers people will be up in arms, if they borrow people's will call them irresponsible, if they tax business people say it will drive up unemployment.... how else are funds to be raised?
Most of the comments online are mostly reform supporters or just bots. They will complain no matter what.
The issues is not raising tax. It's breaking the manifesto promise.
I employ 10 people. I look at true cost of employment. A raise in Employer NI will reduce any future pay rise for workers.
We will also take no more staff on under this government.
Not by chucking more money at train drivers and taking it away from pensioners to heat their homes 😂
Nobody had guns to their heads as they painted themselves into a corner for an election they were winning by default anyway.
They still theoretically have the option to raise capital gains tax in line with income tax but nobody yet knows what they promised to acquire shady capital from the 'philanthropist' who compred slightly higher tax to r@pe & the Caymen Islands based hedgefund they took in the last week so they didn't have to announce it until after the GE.
Raising NI on employers is going to be manageable for large corporations & disproportionately affect the ability of small businesses to grow.
The elephant in the room is the capital gains tax they won't raise because they get more donations from big business.
It's Labour putting party first just like the Tories
Same pish different bottle.
Why are people so scared of upping taxes o the super rich but never a word about low wages and poor benefits?