Real-Time Vocal Harmonies With Ease - Waves Harmony Review
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00:00 - Intro
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04:19 - Warren Huart's Waves Harmony In Use
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31:21 - Adam Steel Makes Hyper Pop
37:54 - Final Remarks
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What are some of your favourite plugins for vocal mixes? Share below
Waves Butch Vig Vocals, MV2 and Vocal Rider.
@@OliverAmberg Great choice!
Soothe 2. I have been trying to minimize much digital processing lately, since my Soyuz 017 sounds so good without. My Heritage Audio 1073/500 with a little 10k and hi pass is the sauce in tracking vocals for me though, along with Bluey 1176 and Audioscape Opto compressors in sequence.
@@DanielGlenTimms Definitely need to check out more Audioscape products. I am seeing them used more and more
Thanks for sharing!
To anyone who says they sound too artificial, try tucking them behind live tracked vocals and see how incredible it sounds!
This is a way I will be using it when I cannot get vocal harmonies from a vocalist.
@@Producelikeapro i have been using a TC Voicelive for 10 years and it's become an indispensable part of my show. This is a phenomenal tool when you only receive a certain amount of tracks from an artist! If I ever find that the tone is a little off, or the tracking isn't quite perfect, I love absolutely slamming the harmonized track at Inf:1, so I can drop it in the mix but still get the extra harmonic information I'm lacking
and putting the track through pitch correction before the harmonizer can help keep the tracking in line!
@@GJSolo and getting a robot to sing the part will save even more time. 😜
@@buddyalbert5808 you'll see I pulled it down and used in just the same way Pink Floyd did using the Eventide Harmoniser and many other Classic Rock bands.
The plug-in looks amazing! This tutorial is next level. You on the guitar makes me seem like I could do it all manually. Amazing work! All around!
Thanks to all of you. This was the most comprehensive + creative explanation I have seen on Waves Harmony plugin so far. Hats off to the team :) 👏💌
Wow, you are the only RUclipsr who actually show how to look for the correct harmony one by one and then blend them together. Bravo!
Haha thanks ever so much
@@Producelikeapro Thank you for your feedback. I just bought this plugin and used it for a few hours. I'm writing new production music albums for some publishers and I installed this plugin on some sources like pulsating bass, pads and many other sound design elements and wow, it's amazing! I think this plugin is really much more than a vocal harmonizer. This opens up a lot of new perspectives in the music production process!
🍀You have created a very good and helpful tutorial. I've only been interested in this plugin for a few hours. So I came across your video more or less randomly. I grew up primarily with the music of the 60s and 70s and therefore have different ideas and preferences in pop music than what mostly flies in your face in the charts these days. I liked your beautiful pop track, for example, and it showed me that this plugin is certainly also very suitable for my music productions. Thanks for that. 🍀
I love what we are able to do with tech today and thanks for sharing other genres of music too! Really important.
Absolutely!
brilliant software and $39.99 very affordable soon as i get out of hospital im grabbing a copy Also thank you Warren for the tutorial on formants it was just a little bit but it was what I needed this is where I've been having my production and engineering skills is into doing better vocals as always youre marvelous
Thanks ever so much for sharing! I really appreciate it
Warren, thanks so much for this! Purchased it right after.
I think this will greatly assist with my own demos as having to sing every part from the 2nd to 5th octave for an entire album is as exhausting as it is time consuming!
I’ll probably use it to work out complex harmonies as much as using it to create an end product 👍🏻
Thanks so much for always sharing the knowledge and for being such a positive spirit!
Cheers from British Columbia 🤘🏻
I knew you would review this plugin. More great content! Thanks
Thanks ever so much Mike!
Love the professional attitude. Well explained and fun to watch. Big thumbs up.
Very nice. Love what it can do, thank you for the video warren
Glad you enjoyed it
Was very tempted by this ... and then Waves sent me an email saying that as an existing OVox customer, I got a $10 discount. Woohoo. So I went to the Waves site and it told me, as an existing Vocal Production bundle customer, that they'd added to the bundle, so it was *FREE*. Oh YES! Thank you Waves, and thank you Produce Like A Pro for this review.
Thanks ever so much for sharing that! Very cool!
Oh crap!! I had OVox. Why didn't they give me the discount. Was yours a recent purchase?
@@trakacademy7044 Yes, within the last year ... there's a maintenance fee if you want to keep getting updates after the first year (and the cross product discounts I guess!) though you could drop them a line and see if they'll give you $10 credit for your next purchase, it's worth a try (I recommend being polite and friendly!) :)
Thank you very much for making this. I've gotten more out of this in 5 minutes then 3 days on my own. I appreciate you taking the time.
You’re very welcome! Glad to be able to help
The best bedroom studio Sr.
Thank you!
Will use for working out harmony and then sing it myself , thanks for the vlog and explaining the plug ❤
i love when you add other people to give their point of view. great video
Great introduction to this plugin. Really gave me a clear picture of what it can do .
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
That's a coincidence, Melda dropped a flyer for their new MHarmonizerMB in my inbox this morning which seems to be pretty much the same thing. 😎
Thanks for sharing!
Such a useful plug-in. A creative way to get you mind thinking about harmonizing things!
Thanks, Conor!
The studio looks great, and the purple hue is fashionable soothing.
Thanks ever so much!
Really nice studio Warren I like how you move from Mixing to producing a song.
Thanks, Boris! Much appreciated.
Thanks for the great demo! I really don't care about this plugin but I found this video to be very entertaining, it made me realise I use the same technique as you Warren. I grab my guitar and figure out the harmonics (even though I don't know if it's 3rd, 5th etc) I'm lucky to have a musical ear that will tell me what's right. As with many other tools, I think this can be achieved with plugins in my arsenal already like Little Alter Boy and advanced warping on Ableton Live.
I m a long time melodyne and veriaudio user. Watched your vedio as soon as it came out, but I think it's time to pull the trigger finally. many thanks for the video, cheers.
Great tutorial on this plug ! Thanks
Great review Warren, all plugs are just creative tools and I think the best use of this creative tool is to audition harmonies against the existing vocal line and to choose the major, or enharmonic minor of the song key. To be able to instantly try a variety of different harmony ideas without having a background in music theory, is a powerful creative tool for songwriters and studio owners alike. Cubase 12 has 'scale assistant' which is similar at building harmony ideas, but this is even faster.
This was a great review!
Thanks ever so much
Neat. On a series I was mixing a foreign language dub for, I did this very thing by hand, adding several pitched layers. Reaper allows you to pitch individual clips as you see fit non-destructively. With this tool(picked it up this morning) I could have it do all the work and I could probably play it like an instrument with midi notes as well. With all the modulation options it's quite the tool for dialogue effects. Nice one Waves, and thank you for the great demos gentlemen.
Very good tutorial! TY Sir Warren!
Thanks for this useful overview .... much appreciated!
Awesome,,it is beautyful Home studio,,thanks for all the knowlage You share,,God bless You ,,👍👍
Our pleasure!
Great video! I'm intrigued with this plugin.
One thing to note about the reaper user's theory on the notes:
When he says the negative 5 is a fourth you have to remember that going a fourth down is the equivalent as going a fifth up (which is like the +7 on the other side). So he has two fifth from the incoming note, just 1 octave apart on opposite sides of the stereo spectrum. They both work together because it's functionally the same note - a perfect fifth.
Just in case anyone was confused about the theory part!
Nice! This one is going on my "Black Friday list" ;).
Great lightning in the new studio!
Thanks for sharing Martin!
Warren, you are a great guitarist, engineer, producer and also you hit the notes when singing perfectly? You are a very talented musician, you really impressed me!
You're very kind! I really appreciate your support!
@@Producelikeapro Thank you for all the great content, we all really appreciate your work you're doing for us!
@@dasalpha-wollmut5646 aw shucks! Thanks ever so much!
Great for helping an artist find harmonies during tracking
Exactly!!
You are truly a wonderful mentor.
Thanks! I actually understood the chord inversion part! I want to learn theory more and like how you worked it into the demo ;) Also, I really see how the H3000 would work similar to this and now understand that better too! You rock!
Thanks ever so much Mary and Sam!
By far, the best intro to that new interesting FX
Thanks ever so much Eric!
what a great Review! Thanks a lot!
Sweet tutorial! This really makes the plugin shine versus many other vids on it.
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
Thanks Warren, listening on my new Kali in-5s. Got the plugin! :)
1 - excellent tutorial, I just got this plugin and I'm blown away, and thank you so much taking the time to create a tutorial.
2- "My Name is Cleveland Brown, and I am proud to be, right back in my hometown, with my new family"
Glad to be able to help!!
LMAO!! 🤣
Still sounds electronic to me. I will use this but only as subtle thickening. I'll sing 3rds and 5ths on my own and play with forment. I'm just glad I won't have to use my TC Electronic Voicelive 2 any more.
Some of these comments are so extreme. It's another tool that many can use in creative ways, that you may not be thinking of. In certain instances you may not even notice it. Every plugin, instrument, and different vocal type can be used in one way or another.
Indeed, it's just the same I would blend it just the same way Pink Floyd did using the Eventide Harmoniser and many other Classic Rock bands.
@@Producelikeapro Exactly!
@ghost mall this technology has been used by '70s Rock bands on, it just works better now
I like your new small workspace. I think the artificialness of the harmonizer is appropriate because you need something that sets it apart from the 80s/90s sound.
Phenomenal Plugin, waoh. Technology has came a long way. Great stuff, cheers
Thanks ever so much Joey!
don't care if you first or last. your the only one who gives good information
Studio lights look great, sir!
Looks awesome.
Thanks for your excellent tutorial on this Harmony plugin, Warren! Would you please give us detailed instructions on how to use Harmony in Studio One; specifically the audio and MIDI track placements and routings? Thank you!
I have been playing with this plugin for a month or so.
I do find that it's tweaked ability is good enough to get pretty good sound out of it.
To be honest, my criteria is not too stringent when it comes to the sound, so I understand how it is still too artificial for some.
I stumbled on a funky little pack that might help on certain harmonies that have a lot of energy in them.
I found that some of the frequencies can get overloaded.
I've only tried this once, but I think you could get some interesting results from taking a harmonized vocal that you create and waves Harmony and running it through a stem separator, there are plenty of free options, even through bandlab or whatever.
The separator will pull some of the frequencies out under the other category or the guitar category or bass category.
You can then see how the vocal sounds just on its own and if you want you can easily modulate those extra frequencies in the other or guitar categories, or just leave them out.
In the one example that I tried, it separated out some low-end warble that helped clean up the overall Harmony vocal.
Haha it's so different seeing you in this RGB LED setting.
ha! It is but I am enjoying it.
Eventide H3000 just bought it. Very useful.
I like your video a lot better than other's because you show how to make these harmony sound more natural. Other's like the daft punk robotic harmonies. That is good for some song's. But my vocal is like neo soul jazz r&b and hip hop. I sing and emcee and like warm full authentic sounds. It's possible and you did it very well in this video thanks
What a great demo! I just got this yesterday on sale at Waves and love it. The only comment I have is that you left the pitch correction on the source vocal. (Good singer, minor imperfections make it sound more human and the harmony copies will do the same) you have it set to “ natural” perhaps try “off”?
That flattened pedal tone is cool.
Thanks ever so much
Great video. Synthetic sounding plugin.
New subscriber here. Love the content!
Thanks ever so much Jason!
I’ll admit that hearing harmonisers for the first time some time ago I was sceptical but Matt Lange is right on the money.. the creativity that tools like these can unlock is amazing. If there’s any doubt check out the old live performance on Zach Braffs’ show of the Imogen Heap track Hide and Seek that Matt calls out. Stunning… very cool.. alot of fun! Thanks for the great and informative review!
Exactly!
Take 6 would sing what Heap did with the computer....... And that was before pro tools and tuning.
Maybe people should practice and sing better.
I need this
Check it out! It's at a great introductory price.
Thanks for the informative video. Quick question. How would you move between snapshots within presets for use at live gigs? I use Ableton Live Lite and heard that midi commands will allow this, but no explanation as to how to set those up and use them.
Was it me or was the -5 not conforming to the Key of F? When you set a key does it always conform the harmonies to the key? Also are you able to set custom scale notes? for instance. When I harmonize pop vocals I use a drop 7 or drop 4 in the major scale in order to voice tri-tone harmonies. Really only relevant when doing 3 parts.
Great new studio and light solution!
Used to mix this song when I was an academy member. Great arrangement and melody. Lilly definitely has unique tone and great vocal chops.
Amazing technology
Thanks for the great comment!
I'm still not sure how to make the harmonies follow a Chord Track, like in Cubase, where there are lots of intricate chord changes, automatically. Does anyone know exactly how. I've only just got the plugin, maybe that's what the "chords" button is for. Takes a while to learn all its capabilities.
I have this plugin but I'm not finding it very usable. I'm not sure how to "store" the notes...does this mean I have to play along on my keyboard in the background to get the harmonies as the track plays? Couldn't I simply assign a midi track with the notes I want to the plugin? I don't see a way to do that...
Thanks Warren, and the other lads, for showing this in detail. Blimey, some people here in the comments are weird. It's a tool, you don't HAVE to use it. It's not for me I don't think, but I can absolutely see how it would be really useful for those making a certain style of music.
For those pissing and moaning - don't use this tool then. Yeah? I don't understand. Create your music without using this tool. Plenty do. Just say "Nah not for me" and move on.
Very good❤
Now that IS an interesting app... I trialled something recently (in cheap mode) called 'Emvoice' (voice emulator) and whilst the I could see the potential and the trial did sound OK it was a right faff to work with and the interface just looked cheap and performed pretty poorly. This looks way more slick and sounds even slicker... I hate my voice, especially when I back myself, this could be the answer... it's all down to the price point!! Thanks Warren!! 😎👍
Sounds great for pop or any project where the transparent digital manipulation is understood to be part of the deal. Wonder if it could be masked enough to fit in sparser rock tracks
Can you save each harmony track as a separate file? How is that done. Basically, I need to create 3 or 4 harmonies and export each harmony track as it's own .wav file. I can't find a way to do this with Waves Harmony.
Good question! Worth asking Waves
A very fine Software!!!!! The harmony voices sound slightly distorted and a bit unnatural. What can I do? Thanks and musician greetings Peter Bengelmann
Can you please help me out with Waves Harmony? I followed the tutorials. When I play any audio through it, the harmony always goes in and out. I'm using Cakewalk daw. I have even tried asking the tech of Waves, but they haven't answered me. Please help me out ok? Thank you.
I would use this to help me find the harmonies (which I suck at) and then I would sing it myself.
Thanks for sharing Brian!
Great minds think alike man haha. That's exactly what I was gonna get it for. Once I saw that you could solo the harmonies (to copy them with a live take), I was like "Yarp, adding this to the arsenal".
That’s what I got it for😆 It really is a time saver!
I was doing this in the piano roll , this will save time ❤
How does it do with chord progressions or melodies that deviate from the key. Chords like a bVII or Maj III
Thanks for this video. Did you try this plugin on other instruments?
I did! On an electric guitar part for a Brian May line! Was awesome!
Thanks for the video Warren. I feel like similar results can be had with Reaper’s Reapitch plugin. Have you tried it?
Thanks for sharing John! I will check it out
I can see me using this when trying to build gang vocals for certain parts, choruses and oohs & aahs.
Thanks ever so much for sharing
Respect ♥
Seems like a brilliant tool for learning harmonies, it’s like you said Warren unless you have a bit of theory knowledge then you probably don’t know how to work harmonies out. Be great for someone learning that or an engineer who isn’t musically trained. Or maybe a cool effect in pop music. Very cool plug in!
Thanks, Linzi! We think so too.
This would have been great for me back in the day! I studied music at college and did theory there and learned all this stuff but it would’ve helped a lot when I was younger and hadn’t a clue how to work this out, it puzzled me for years until I went to college
@@millermusicnsound Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it!
It's actually not a good tool for learning harmonies because these are static harmonies, at least if you don't use midi. If you want to learn harmonies, learn Alice In Chains songs and sing both parts.
1st demo was great. The second didn't really get pass a "mess of notes" although I can see there are many possibilities
Can you help me to understand if this app can run in realtime on a macbook?
Think your new studio room lokks pretty good...but where is your console? Thanks for the video
I have the other studio as well! This is to showcase completely different equipment
Wow!!!
Thanks!
Nice! But whats the difference to izotopes nektar harmony section?!
I haven't done a direct comparison! Althohygnthe features that Matt was getting into were very advanced
The ONLY problem is I want a portable harmonizer that HEARS -through midi or audio- and adjusts chords AS THEY COME.....Like the Vocalist........but for an electronic instrument not just vocal range etc .....
ANY IDEAS????
Octavox
Warren, a question kinda off topic here. You know many musicians, have you ever met Glenn Hughes the ex deep purple? I always wondered how interesting it would be to bring him to your show for a talk. Dude is a monster vocalist!
Awesome tutorial. Could I change key in the middle of the song, like for one measure? I have modal interchange chords there
Absolutely! That would have to be written into automation though
Maybe not that easy. Might be best to use two instances and have them set at different keys?
Thanks for checking . hopefully wave will add automation for accidentals in future version, modal interchange and secondary dominant is quite basic in most genres
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The original part @ 4:20 is already autotuned?
I wish I understood enough theory to figure out harmonies. I don’t how to use these tools cuz I am a drummer and always played by ear.
The timing sounds very robotic, but I'd be curious about soloing the individual harmonies, bouncing them to audio, then playing with the audio clip timing slightly.
Not bad, sounds a lot better than Antares Harmony engine but I still think the very underrated Muvoice has the best sounding artificial harmonies
I'm a singer.......BUT..I'm also a guitarist. Will this work with guitars and other instruments as well as it appears to work with vocals??? PLEASE say 'yes'..........
Also are those plus and minus numbers scale or chromatic??
Tried to grab the Multi track files and it said page unavailable.
I just tested and it worked for me.P{lease try again, what browser are you using?
I think it's more interesting to write a harmony that isn't simply a 3rd or 5th above, but more interweaving. BUT BUT BUT this is a pretty great for people who aren't into that. You can mess with the parameters enough to make it sound pretty damn good. Especially if it's a straight up pop song, where vocal processing is part of the sound anyway. It's very inexpensive, so this might be worth having, even if you don't use it all the time. Thanks!
I agree with you but you have the ability to choose any harmony that you want if you play it with the midi keyboard. You don’t have to use the static harmonies offered in the drop down menu. Just FYI.
@@jamiesontobeymusic Good to know. Thanks!
I'm pretty happy with it for faking backing vocals easily when live looping. It works fine in realtime. Yes it sounds rough soloed, but behind a few loops and a live vocal it's fine.
Comment on the new look. Maybe purple lights underneath aren't the most flattering. Look at your face while you are playing the melody in the beginning and you will see what I mean. The combination of blue/purple lights and that same blue/purple light coming from underneath is pretty unflattering. My two cents. At the bare minimum I think a warmer color would help. Background is its own situation, but be careful how you light yourself in the foreground!
What's it like on instruments?
This is one of those plugs that you would use as subtle support but not featured, at least that's how I would approach it. For featured harmonies just sing them.