HOW TO CLEAN A Titan Wagner or Graco Airless Paint Sprayer after oil based paints.
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2016
- How to clean a paint sprayer with paint thinner or mineral spirits, Simple airless sprayer cleaning tips after using oil based paints. The best tips and instructions for paint sprayer right here on my channel The Idaho Painter. Works for Wagner or Graco sprayers too. Paint Life Store: t.ly/K2my
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Hey Chris, thanks for another great video!!! I just recently scored a used GRACO Honda powered airless sprayer that I'm putting together for lacquer/oil based paint so I don't have to spend so much time switching my primary sprayer back and forth. Now I'll have a dedicated water base and dedicated oil base gas powered sprayer. Thanks for ALL your tips and making my job easier!!!
This really really helped me. I used an oil based primer in my paint sprayer the first time I ever used it and had NO IDEA what I was doing, it was a big mess trying to clean, 2 hours of effort and then your video saved me.
Great video. Short enough to be to the point, but explained what you were doing and why. Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks for the videos. I just finished spraying my house thanks in part to watching you on you tube and learning what I needed to know. I used a cheap Graco X5 and it worked well for me. I am not a painter and yet with your help I sprayed more than 10,000 ft2 in total. Thanks again!!!
Glad to help, thanks for watching!
You've helped me with several painting projects. Thank you!
Thanks man, for sharing your knowledge cheers to you from the Florida painter
Thanks Mate for this video. New owner of an airless i was wondering about oil based and cleaning. Cheers from Bkk
Great video. Thanks for posting!
Great tutorial!
Thanks For the Psalm 50 reference!!! I highly respect that
Holy Moly !! Great tip about recycling the thinner. Thanks buddy.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the scripture in the video! That’s truly a blessing 🙏🏾
So glad to hear👍
Great point on not spraying oil-based and water-based paint through same equipment - seems common sense - After you said it :) - Thanks.
I have several jobs I want to accomplish at home. Glad I learned that up front! Might just roll all the oil-based primers and paints
Thank you fellow Idahoan 🫡
Great video!!
I'm not a carpenter type guy, and Graco had no practical video using how to clean oil. based products. THANK YOU so much for making this video sir. God bless you.
Thanks for watching Tony!
Mann.
I absolutely love the biblical quotes.
I know you are busy but I feel led to connect on a few topics .
1. Im a 30 plus year 3rd generation mason who 4 years ago had to have a 3 level fusion ..I still have a family to support so I'm easing into paint ..I have about 5 houses that need interior and exterior painted and could use some advice etc etc .. I HAVE done some painting here and there ..Ran a powder coat line , and baking enamel line for roughly a year .. I have painted , and prepped off and on but only for months at a time to help buddies that were slammed .. ( thats one topic )
2 .. Im in the Seattle area and was a Homeless addicted vet for around 3 years .. I have about 6 years and the rest of my life to look forward to being clean, happy, wise, annnnnd successful ...
I need to start finding help but over in this area I'm having trouble building the type team I need etc etc
Every time I have a paint question Idaho Painter has answered it 5 years ago lol
Great video, only thing I would possibly add is cleaning the gun filter periodically. 👍🏻
great info and detailed.
Thank you!
Thanks for the scripture reference. I am in a day of trouble and you have reminded me that the LORD will deliver me now as he always has. Glory to His name. I use oil based products to finish woodworking projects and am amazed at how easily my tools clean up. I also recycle all of the thinner. As usual a very informative and understandable video. Thanks and God bless..
Thanks for the ideas!
Think I might be a bit more neurotic about the machines and guns. (Such is life.)
Keep up the good work, I've enjoyed your videos immensely.
Thank you for sharing and watching🤙
Chris PLEASE review the Wagner Control Pro 190. I bought one and man, I am unsure if it was a good choice or not. I don't want to keep it or use it if it's junk. Please review or give me some insight? Thanks man, I love your work!
You are a excellent teacher, I’ve watched so many of your video’s, I wish I could buy you dinner, I owe you at least that.
When I pass through your town
@@Idahopainter DFW Texas in the winter months and pretty soon the west side of UP Michigan. It would be my pleasure.
Thank you. I was unable to find suggestion of how much mineral spirits I would need to clean the Graco X5 I just purchased.
You are so welcome!
Hey Van you mix Mineral Spirits with water also to clean water base products like acrylic/silicone roof sealers
Thanks
Can you storage a graco 395 nova with lacquer thiner since this machine is rated for spraying lacquer, it won't mest up the gaskets?
Great video. In my country, there is no mineral spirit. Can I use a turpentine-based oil thinner to clean the airless spray machine without damage to the rubber gaskets in the pump and the gun?
I'm concerned about Varnish or Lacquer. Would you clean it the same way? Responces are nice when someone puts a video out.
Hey chris, I currently have the greco prox17 that I use for spraying latex, well I'm one a job and she want oil base sprayed, can I use my latex rig for oil base or will it be better to buy a new gun and hose for oil base? I just dont have the money for a new rig right now nor do I wanna mess up my machine
Do I need to use a conditioner when storing my sprayer away which could be for years. or will the mineral spirits protect the unit just the same. Thx...
Hey was wondering what to do if I don’t have to sprayers and what to Run latex paint through it next do you just rinse out with water after the mineral spirits
saw the psalms verse, liked the video. easiest like ever.
Thanks for the ongoing Painting education, I teach construction methods to young men in West Africa, and since I found your channel and videos, we now have an excellent source of top quality painting information.
My question is; If I use my sprayer for oil based product and clean properly with paint thinner or mineral spirits, I end up with residual mineral spirit or thinner in the lines and system components... Do I need to flush the system with water or warm soapy water or other??? .. if I want to park the unit with no use for 6 months? incidentally I have only warm weather here, no chance of freezing. I'm concerned about the spirit or thinners damaging o-rings or hoses if just left indefinitely .. what do you suggest?
Warm soapy water would be best
If your spray rig is strictly oil base use, i would never introduce water in it, leave the paint thinner in
I spray strictly lacquer based products in mine , I always leave lacquer thinner in it , ever if it a few months between uses, Ive had the same Graco SPX for probly 20 years now, rebuilt a time or two, but same basic sprayer.
After using water based paint can you use this method but with clean water in the bucket instead of mineral spirits? I don't have a garden hose available where I will be using my sprayer. I have a graco magnum project painter plus and I haven't been able to find a video where any one cleans it out without a hose.
Is there any concern with cleanup of a paint sprayer when switching between shellac primer and latex paint? In other words, "Would Chris spray Shellac primer through his water-based sprayer?"
So does the metal bucket have to be grounded when cleaning & spraying?
Wonderful video , but why are you not cleaning out both filters ? One in the line an one in the pump ?! I would always clean them separately & then cycle it one more time !!
Such a beautiful thing that scripture reference , to me as a believer I love it , just like I enjoyed this video
I have a Graco Project painter plus sprayer, It was given to me by a neighbor who bought it brand new a year ago. I don't believe he used any storage solution as required. Is there anyway to save this sprayer?
I just Sprayed lacquer last night, I cleaned it with lacquer thinner. Should I leave the the lacquer thinner in the hose and gun? or replace it with mineral spirits?
It took me about a week to get the hang of this but know my airless paint sprayer stays clean I've become quick at cleaning it out use to an hour know I got it down to 20 minutes save your mineral spirits reuse them
Do oil based sprayers have cartridge filters in them? What about the gun handle? Do they all have filters in the handles
So what do you do if it's clogged like I've tried running mineral spirits I think I didn't run enough mineral spirits when I first used it with latex paint and now I won't spray hardly any at all maybe just like a squirt here and there if I get lucky do I need to buy new house or what do I do
Thanks man
Your welcome
What if the paint has hardened if not cleaned properly after last used (as unfortunately is my case)?
Just used oil based primer in my latex handheld. Thisll be fun....... uhoh
Dang
Hey your buddy DIO speed demon says paint should be 3 millimeters thick, is that right? An eighth of an inch?
My skills have grown so much because of your videos Chris. Thank you for putting so much effort into educating all of us.
When you clean your sprayer from an oil based material using mineral spirits like in this video, you describe recycling the mineral spirits and that the paint just settles into the bottom of the 5 gal container. After the cleaning done in this video, would you just pour your dirty spirits back into the 5 gal can? And then as you say it should all be settled (and solidified?) at the bottom before you need to use it again, basically leaving the spirits clean?
We have one 5 gallon bucket that is a sludge bucket for dirty mineral spirits when it settles we pour it into a clean bucket
I'd like to know how to keep the machine clean on the outside too. You must have a long list of experience of what not to do. What about a tunnel shaped cover to keep air flow going but paint off? My new 490PC looks great and I would like to keep it that way. You could probably do a whole video on that.
Thanks for a great video. Can I do this with water based paits and if not why is that?
Yes, we only use water based paint
what about oil/latex mix behr barn and fence?
Hey Chris very video
Hi chris !!!!!!
Tks Sr
What?
Great information. Can I use turpentine instead of mineral spirits for clean up?
Yes, you can
Sounds like a Graco 395. Very distinct sound compared to any other machine
Titan 400
Have any ideas to take the paint off on the siphon tube ?I habe a titan 440 high rider and dont want to buy a new one.thanks for the feedback
Heat tube
Thanks for this, very informative - so I only have one Wagner sprayer and I have used it for latex stains, are you saying I should buy another sprayer to use for oil based deck stain? No way for me to use the same sprayer? Thanks again.
From what I've read, Graco sites say you can switch between oil and latex. You just have to be careful to flush water before latex painting and mineral spirits before oil painting. One thing you can do is buy two hoses, one for latex and one for oil. For guys like Chris, it makes sense for him to have exclusive oil and latex machines.
We have a unit (titan 440i) that gets used for both. But what I did was bought a separate hose, and we use a different gun and will run different filters when we run latex vs oil based. It's a pretty cost effective solution. After using oil based. We clean our machine like Chris shows in the video. Except more excessively. It's clean. Then remove the filters, and Use warm water with dawn dish soap through it. We run a few gallon worth of soapy solution. Through the pump. The pick up and primer tube Then run a couple of gallons of clean room temp water to clean that out. (If you run a second hose and gun make sure you put it on while doing this method) the hose is really the biggest draw back imho to running the same machine for different paints. But you can use the same hose also. Just clean more thoroughly. This method Gets the pump nice and clean. 5 or so years now and no rebuilding the unit so far though I have open it up to check the packing and all..... Now throw your new filters in and get to work. 👍
I hope this helps someone
I should have read the post above me PRIOR to posting. Lol! There ya go. Two people. Ultimately the same answer.
Thank you for your information about difference between paint thiner and mineral spirits . In California minerals spirits are not allowed by law , what else you would recommend for cleaning sprayer after oil base use . ( I am afraid to use paint thiner , it's to strong and might damage seals .) I hope I can hear from you . Thank you.
Hi David, did you maybe find the solution for the cleaner? I am in the same situation as you, just in a different country. If nothing else I will go with the oil thinner.
I cleaned my sprayer with amonia after using a lacquer Amonia . You can test cleaning a paint brush that has oil base paint . Hope this help you.
Correction in my text "after using a lacquer paint"
Paint thinner and mineral spirits are the same. Mineral spirits has less odor because of the refining process.
Do you have any videos that go more into depth on what you do with your paint thinner after and how you are able to re use it for so long? Like does that dirty paint thinner go back into the 5 gallon drum or do you have a dirty drum? You mentioned that the paint settles at the bottom and you're left with clean thinner that you can use. How does that all work, what's your method regarding all of that?
Here’s a visual experiment you can do… paint something with a brush, using an oil based material. When you’re done, fill a mason jar about 1/2 full of either mineral spirits of thinner, then dunk your brush in. Stir it around a little, agitating the brush and pressing the ferrule down against the bottom of the mason jar like you would if you were washing it in the sink, etc. Obviously you’ll see cloudy paint-colored thinner, but just let the brush sit for an hour or so. When you come back, the oil-pigments and paint particles will have separated from the thinner and settled on the bottom of the jar. At that point, you can pour out the clean thinner, and the particles (most of them) will remain at the bottom of the mason jar for you to throw away or dispose of properly. You can also strain the remnants if you want as you pour the thinner back into the container. Presto, clean thinner or spirits!
Hi
Thank you for your help!
Do you think that we can use Antifreeze for airless sprayers or have to follow the manufacturer instructions and using only Pump Armour.
Thank you.
A Graco tech told me to use antifreeze.
Interesting about the static...
Yes, thanks for watching!
I have a graco gx21 if I use solvent based paints, then clean out with thinners or spirts. When I go to use a water-based paint, will water flush out the solvent spirts properly before I prime my paint though it or do I need ro use something else so not to contaminate the waterbased paint by getting solvent cleaner in it?
Warm water and Dawn dish soap
I ran a shellac primer (cover stain) through my titan 740 now it won’t prime nor spray like its clogged what do I do !?
Get a new hose & gun..try that..
Idk why my Graco 490 is taking more than 2 buckets of water to clean out.. I'm starting to think it's the inlet pipe..
I have always used gas .... it works great
What does Psalms 50: 14-15 have to do with paint or paint thinner?
You ever have an explosion? You ever start spraying fire?
I only have 1 sprayer. Used oil primer cleaned with mineral spirts. My question is can I flush with water and use latex afterwards
Great question! I’m fixing to experience the same issue and would like to know if you found out the answer to your question. Thank you!
I don't see why not. The important thing is to thoroughly clean it, which you should be doing anyways.
Yes.. after you run clean thinner they it., just pop it on your latex, run residual thinner out until you shot only latex. Then you paint.. then clean it out with water.. you can go back and forth no problem
So if I'm running Alkyd/Oil Stain on my sprayer, can I also run a 100% acrylic clear sealant in the same sprayer? anyone?
My understanding is that alkyd isn’t actually oil-based (though sometimes referred to as oil-based), so you should be able to.
How do you dispose of your mineral spirits/paint after cleaning the machine?
We reuse it
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I'm torn, I've been using my sprayer for non-oil based painting but want to stain my house with oil based stain. What do you all think, should I use my sprayer? I really don't want to buy another sprayer, what would happen if I did use my same sprayer?
We do not use oil-based
Thanks for the quick response. I was told since I already have oil based on the house to stay with it. Also, told it is "better here in Colorado." Not sure I by that. What do you think, stop using oil based?
Out here in Cali they sell paint thinner with mineral spirits. Can I leave that liquid inside the machine for storage??
Yes you can.
@@Idahopainter thank you
Always takes me about 2 hours to clean, why my tools look new even though theyre old
God bless
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Sorry, I can't remember, I have quite a few pairs
Hi Chris , I have not seen a vid of you using oil based before, I have a decorating company in Scotland , we have recently started spraying new work with water based paints using many of the tips and advice from your videos, I know you are busy spraying and may not have time to answer but I have a question for you, do you have a product you use to spray over old oil based finishes ( gloss etc) that will provide a solid primer for over coating with further water based finished? This is a problem for us here as many primers don't key into the surface,
Keep up the good work,
Liked and subscribed :)
+Chris California Liven Thanks for the reply Chris is that lacquer water/acrylic/latex based? I should have made more clear, is there a sprayable non solvent based product available ? We have seen a lot of advances in primers here in the uk but still sometimes a non solvent product can't quite compete with a shellac or oil based product on very high sheen surfaces like varnished balustrades or oiled wood panelling,
Thanks !
+Chris California Liven 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
+The Idaho Painter Thank you!
Hi, I use a water based primer from Johnstones which I find works fine in this scenario... Also I spray using johnstones AquaGloss.. 2 coats (for best results) gives a superb finish and feels and looks just like normal high sheen gloss... Used it for a few years now and love the stuff!!! Plus can be used interior/exterior without any issues :-)
+wackokid johnstones Ultra primer ?
Ayuda por favor alguien que hable español podría decirme como limpiar este equipo después de usar pintura de aceite se lo agradecería muchísimo gracias
Usar alcoholes minerales
if i only have one sprayer anf nerd to use it for both latex paints and also for oil based and lacquer. how should i take care of my machine? im looking at buying a small Graco pump. i usually brush and roll but some times i need to spray.
+The Idaho Painter thanks. i do a lot of latex and been goung to buy a new pump soon. im doing a remodel right now and have to stain and finish a lot of beadboard paneling for a busy restaurant. i used to be able to borrow a pump for lacquer but i dont have that option anymore as i no longer do business with the guy i borrowed from. what would you suggest product wise for an option to brush or roll this paneling? would varethane be a good option? its plywood beadboard going to be finished with a basic red mahogany minwax stain.
+The Idaho Painter good call. is that something i could brush on without a ton of brush strokes?
+The Idaho Painter thanks. using it now. its looking good. just takes about 3 time longer to dry compared to spraying cat-a-lac wich in yhe righ conditions can be sanded in about 25 minutes lol.
Ok, the gold question is, what do you do with your waste water that has paint in it?
Dump it in the grass, contrary to what everyone believes, it will not ruin the grass
That's kind of what thought but then someone said "Is it against the EPA?" I didn't know what to say...haha.
Thanks!
Can I used oil-based paint with this machines?
Yes
@@Idahopainter if I'm doing two coats of oil based kilz can I leave the kilz in the gun until the next coat or do I have to clean in right away?
Sounds like the wrong setup for solvent paints if the risk is to be sprayed with fire 🔥 🎨 😳
👍🏻🙏🏻
Thanks
Won't lacquer thinner work
For lacquer based products
noice
maybe in the sea, it does not destroy your cement or stain your grass
OK
I use kerosene it works just as good cheaper
He missed a step.always spray over your main pickup tube to wash it off on the outside.😉
Lol
He sounds like Dante- Adam Sandlers buddy-
Storing oil-based finishes and varnish can be a problem. The leftovers skin over or thicken and become useless. Bloxygen is the fix! Use this inert gas and you can store leftovers for years. See www.bloxygen.com for more. Also see Bloxygen Videos.
Thanks for sharing
I have a question for you that no one can seem to answer. Once the machine is cleaned out where should the wastewater be disposed?
Depends on your local EPA regulations. So deam it hazardous waste. In Idaho in the grass is fine. OutPak makes a product that solidifies it and it can go to the landfill.
Gas does the same thing and is cheaper lol
Is gas more likely to cause fire?
Miss the scripture references! Its been awhile i feel like
They are still there
Dd Dee Dee f
This video was confusing to understand.
Watch the other one
He doesn’t seem to answer a lot of questions on the remarks so why subscribe. Just keep researching.
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