I kind of like the idea of a polymorphed metallic dragon actually putting their horde on display to the public as a Museum. The lair actions could actually aid the visitors with Legend Lore spells, locate object spells, conjured refreshments, etc. Then of course, there would have to be security in place to protect the place from would be thieves and dragonslayers (Walls of Force, Animated Statues, Illusions, Charm spells, etc.).
Out of all three books this fall, I've had this release date circled for months! Looking forward for a full hoard of new draconic goodies to use in my future games and campaigns!
*Salivating at the possibility of making a draconic faction that has you acting as a conservation officer to protect dragons from a villainous dragon poacher*
Nope! In the world of Eberron, this has always been a thing. Dragons are the children of Eberron, Couatls are the children or Sibyrus, Fiends are the children of Kyber
@@thehistorynerd8537 I'm reasonably sure the elder scrolls world was created well before eberron. Don't know its history well enough to know when dragons become well detailed in it though.
@@jiminkpen9750 Eberron first appeared in 2004, so TES does in fact predate it. However, the dragon-related TES content likely came from Kirkbride or later, so it's probably a case of parallel ideas.
@@erickarnell Oooh! thank you, I have stolen your good idea and incorporated it into the lore of my homebrew campaign! My party will learn the information from a book written by famed historian Erick Arnell :D
I had exactly the idea about them both, and they had a calamitous war about it with a mysterious end - I’m finally getting to tackle it in an adventure!
I am looking forwards to Fizban's. One thing I want to see so badly though, is a dedicated Mage slayer build. The best I have seen is Abjuration Wizards and a Way of Shadows monk. In a world with THIS much magic, why isn't there a mage slayer?
@@isaacgraff8288 the feat level one if your a human, and for the class features for the ranger you obviously for the first favored enemy you pick humaniod and for the sub class your gonna have to look yourself at the rest but this if the level 11 ability for it. Magic-User’s Nemesis At 11th level, you gain the ability to thwart someone else’s magic. When you see a creature casting a spell or teleporting within 60 feet of you, you can use your reaction to try to magically foil it. The creature must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw against your spell save DC, or its spell or teleport fails and is wasted. Once you use this feature, you can’t use it again until you finish a short or long rest.
Dragons as the angel/fiend equivalent for the mundane world, being metaphorical or literal representation of that world's life essence, is by far my favorite interpretation of dragons and something I'm never not assuming in my worldbuilding tbh. Also gives a good reason for why dragons are their own thing and not monstrosities or beasts.
On the previous video, they talked about how this could steal the spotlight from draconic origin sorcerers and how you could flavor the currently available patrons to be dragons instead.
I'm hoping Deep Dragons get their own polymorphing ability back that they lost in 4e. Also wondering if Deep Dragons will still be Chromatic Dragons in 5e's Fizban's Treasury of Dragons (they were in 4e, but not originally I think).
In the 1st Edition days, dragons had a major benefit to them as prey for adventurers: Druid character could use them. Now, druids can still gain benefit from using dragon scale mail.
@@FellVoice "In a new form, the dragon retains its alignment, hit points, Hit Dice, ability to speak, proficiencies, Legendary Resistance, lair actions, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores, as well as this action. Its statistics and capabilities are otherwise replaced by those of the new form, except any class features or legendary actions of that form." I got this from reading the Change Shape ability that metallic dragons have.
Ah yes, the ultimate dragon horde have a dragon put in the rod of security plane of existence use the none aging aspect to go through millennia that or the fey wild since time works differently there too.
This idea already exists in 5e in the artifact weapons from the Wildemount book and the piety based powers on items from Theros. It's a neat thing, and the rules for each, such as they are, are nimbly summarized within each weapon's description. There are also non-upgradable weapons that are more complex than some of those things (the Apparatus of Kwalish off the top of my head), so its not like the idea of weapons that upgrade based on plot or pre-baked systems is inherently flawed. It simply helps that 5e is overall more, well, simple than 3.5.
I didn't think that these are a neat idea. Seems like over complication, when it would be easier to find a new item. The idea that dragon hoards making magic stronger is kinda silly. Imo
I kind of like the idea of a polymorphed metallic dragon actually putting their horde on display to the public as a Museum. The lair actions could actually aid the visitors with Legend Lore spells, locate object spells, conjured refreshments, etc. Then of course, there would have to be security in place to protect the place from would be thieves and dragonslayers (Walls of Force, Animated Statues, Illusions, Charm spells, etc.).
Sounds like something a Silver would do.
This is mine now thank you
This is a fabulous idea and now I need to put it in my world somewhere.
commenting so I can find this again later
Kobold security crew
Out of all three books this fall, I've had this release date circled for months! Looking forward for a full hoard of new draconic goodies to use in my future games and campaigns!
Sadly it got delayed a week to October 26
This reinforces my notion that smart lawful dragons would invent banking.
Shout out to Brennan Lee Mulligan who did exactly that in one of his shows.
"of couse I'll keep your gold safe place in the left side of treasure pile B2"
Makes me think of Greater Dragons Savings and Loans.
Smart lawful and EVIL
Good Aligned Draconic Credit Unions.
I would love a dragon with a very well organized and labeled hoard
And a nice pair of spectacles
*Salivating at the possibility of making a draconic faction that has you acting as a conservation officer to protect dragons from a villainous dragon poacher*
Plot twist will be busterblader isnt a dragon poacher
This is easily my most anticipated book to date!!! Thank you soo much for the time everyone took to make it!!
Same!
You need to hurry! I am about to start, "Tyranny of Dragons" and I need this book!
Is anyone else hearing that dragons to the material world are like angels to the heavens comparison for the first time??
Surprisingly, Elder Scrolls did it first
Nope! In the world of Eberron, this has always been a thing. Dragons are the children of Eberron, Couatls are the children or Sibyrus, Fiends are the children of Kyber
@@thehistorynerd8537 I'm reasonably sure the elder scrolls world was created well before eberron. Don't know its history well enough to know when dragons become well detailed in it though.
@@jiminkpen9750 I think he was saying to the original comment that this was not the first he's heard of it
@@jiminkpen9750 Eberron first appeared in 2004, so TES does in fact predate it. However, the dragon-related TES content likely came from Kirkbride or later, so it's probably a case of parallel ideas.
That thing about dragons being avatars of the material plane, I always had the same thing in my head about giants.
Giants and dragons had a terrible war. Maybe part of that was working out which best embodied the material plane's essence.
@@erickarnell Oooh! thank you, I have stolen your good idea and incorporated it into the lore of my homebrew campaign! My party will learn the information from a book written by famed historian Erick Arnell :D
I had exactly the idea about them both, and they had a calamitous war about it with a mysterious end - I’m finally getting to tackle it in an adventure!
This Dragon book sounds like it's on the right track.
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I am looking forwards to Fizban's. One thing I want to see so badly though, is a dedicated Mage slayer build. The best I have seen is Abjuration Wizards and a Way of Shadows monk. In a world with THIS much magic, why isn't there a mage slayer?
There is the monster hunter ranger it can easily be played as a mage slayer, espicialy if you pick the mage slayer feat
@@rayclawicefire2503 when does that ability come online?
@@isaacgraff8288 the feat level one if your a human, and for the class features for the ranger you obviously for the first favored enemy you pick humaniod and for the sub class your gonna have to look yourself at the rest but this if the level 11 ability for it.
Magic-User’s Nemesis
At 11th level, you gain the ability to thwart someone else’s magic. When you see a creature casting a spell or teleporting within 60 feet of you, you can use your reaction to try to magically foil it. The creature must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw against your spell save DC, or its spell or teleport fails and is wasted.
Once you use this feature, you can’t use it again until you finish a short or long rest.
Dragons as the angel/fiend equivalent for the mundane world, being metaphorical or literal representation of that world's life essence, is by far my favorite interpretation of dragons and something I'm never not assuming in my worldbuilding tbh. Also gives a good reason for why dragons are their own thing and not monstrosities or beasts.
We could have had a dragon patron for warlocks.
On the previous video, they talked about how this could steal the spotlight from draconic origin sorcerers and how you could flavor the currently available patrons to be dragons instead.
@@rmasoni To be fair, that's a little bit lazy of an explanation. So why is there Divine Soul Sorcerer and Celestial Warlock?
@@rmasoni steal the spotlight from a class someone in the party might not even play? Don’t really get the logic behind that.
I’m just paraphrasing. Watch the video for more context.
@@rmasoni Consider: I have watched the video, and still share this opinion of what we could have had?
I'm hoping Deep Dragons get their own polymorphing ability back that they lost in 4e. Also wondering if Deep Dragons will still be Chromatic Dragons in 5e's Fizban's Treasury of Dragons (they were in 4e, but not originally I think).
In the 1st Edition days, dragons had a major benefit to them as prey for adventurers: Druid character could use them. Now, druids can still gain benefit from using dragon scale mail.
"Dragons are to the prime material plain what celestials are to the upper plains and fiends are to the lower."
They are!? ...That's kinda rad.
I wonder if this is a hint that they’re bringing some dragon lance back
It's a massive hint. I'd bet money Dragonlance is one of the classic settings for next year.
@@simonfernandes6809 🤞🤞
As good a place to ask as any. When a dragon is polymorphed does it have the HP of the new form or does it retain it's draconic form's HP?
"In its new form, the dragon retains its ... hit points, (etc)" - Monster Manual
@@andrewtempest2092 Cool, good to know. Now to ask the obvious, does the dragons new form retain it's AC and ability scores, special abilities etc?
@@FellVoice "In a new form, the dragon retains its alignment, hit points, Hit Dice, ability to speak, proficiencies, Legendary Resistance, lair actions, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores, as well as this action. Its statistics and capabilities are otherwise replaced by those of the new form, except any class features or legendary actions of that form." I got this from reading the Change Shape ability that metallic dragons have.
When are we going to get the Dragonborn Hag as a race Jeremy?
Need more DM tools and support. We have plenty of player options.
It saddens me greatly to see Fizbans name on a book and it has absolutely nothing to do with Dragonlance
Ah yes, the ultimate dragon horde have a dragon put in the rod of security plane of existence use the none aging aspect to go through millennia that or the fey wild since time works differently there too.
Just hoping there is something for Steel dragons. Maybe for Toril born dragonborn a Steel "bloodline"
Just something
Nope they retconned them. Steel dragons don’t exist anymore
who lit this set...jeeeez
Where dragon patron
Like great book but where patron
Watch the previous interview!
well for exemple my dragon was the head of a bank
Hype
Slaid the dragon !!!!! Is it not slew the dragon!!!!
S O A K
Items that become more powerful, there was a whole 3.5 book on it called Weapons of Legacy.
It kinda sucked. They really want to bring that back?
Could you elaborate? What about it sucked?
@@raicantgame6634 the rules were cumbersome.
@@scottmcley5111 That describes 3.5 as a whole.
This idea already exists in 5e in the artifact weapons from the Wildemount book and the piety based powers on items from Theros. It's a neat thing, and the rules for each, such as they are, are nimbly summarized within each weapon's description. There are also non-upgradable weapons that are more complex than some of those things (the Apparatus of Kwalish off the top of my head), so its not like the idea of weapons that upgrade based on plot or pre-baked systems is inherently flawed.
It simply helps that 5e is overall more, well, simple than 3.5.
I didn't think that these are a neat idea. Seems like over complication, when it would be easier to find a new item. The idea that dragon hoards making magic stronger is kinda silly. Imo