Notes: •Bee Line- Xcelsiors 145 and 511 were reported to have various issues in early March. •NICE Next Gens left: 1810-1811, 1815, 1817-1818, 1824 (6) •Suffolk- As I was recently informed, Next Gen 1011 is now at EBT. •SEPTA- 8075 and 8083 were the final D40LFs in regular service. They retired between 3/12-3/13/24 on Route 15. 8093 was the ceremonial retirement unit. Similar situation to the MTA with its RTSs back in 2019. Credits: Dodge 15, Newsday: NICE Mini, Herald Community Newspaper, Northwest Bus Sales, Occasional Fanner, Philly Inquirer, NBC Philadelphia, DCist, Mercury News, CBS (BART derailment), The Hill, Greater Greater Washington, Railway Age, KALW, Catenary Maps, KTVU, San Francisco Standard, Western Railway Museum, Alameda Magazine, WAMU Credit to the people that took the 9117 pics. Credit to everyone whose picture was used in the Update If you’re not mentioned on here, but contributed in some way, credit to you as well! Important Links: Bee-Line: Free over the summer: westchester.news12.com/bee-line-bus-service-including-paratransit-will-once-again-be-free-this-summer NICE Bus: www.ridemini.com/ www.gannettfleming.com/project/nassau-inter-county-express-battery-electric-bus-charging/ NJT/Coach USA: twitter.com/KeeleyFox29/status/1778840229605982420?t=NeFWeLCaQ_QPcvJvwygBfA&s=19 ruclips.net/video/R4qzecXn40E/видео.html abc7ny.com/nj-transit-to-vote-on-15-percent-fare-hike-that-would-go-into-effect-july-1/14640945/ Coach USA Bankruptcy- www.coachusa.com/news-and-media/coach-usa-initiates-voluntary-chapter-eleven?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0YjHB-Hl36Cso8GChWAn-E1eWY6N52eCVgU9S0WCaT1FFcMi14C-sp6D8_aem_AV1fmuTVwmrnoeKNKa8LUuCsvyvwHR4NmhERm-kJt74Nk_wRSMIjikuLdF3JDXuFBOw294Fj1uaXMPR6H6FxeS0O SEPTA: cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Southeastern_Pennsylvania_Transportation_Authority#On_Order instagram.com/p/C2e-GR_vXSP/?igsh=azIzaHNoaWtrdHEx Girard Trolleys- patch.com/pennsylvania/philadelphia/amp/31777959/iconic-green-and-cream-septa-trolleys-returning-to-service-sunday?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0BdKWc1uh3TbaeoemiAOekCMxuTVi9KZ2PiXmYJ3hcu0ok6qwEW5g2v2I_aem_AU9CCVmyboFu69bh_qyaO55GT1BZFV8pDo_bbgzUs5SImkKXkNEQi9ne0hNwCETspyQJpSBhnDbCdZBdAlitrguS WMATA Developments: www.wmata.com/about/news/Fleet-of-the-Future-Opening.cfm wmata.com/about/news/Metro-Board-approves-budget-that-maintains-service-thanks-to-additional-investments-from-DC-Maryland-and-Virginia.cfm www.wmata.com/initiatives/plans/bus-priority/all-door-boarding.cfm www.wmata.com/about/news/The-future-of-transit-is-near-Metro-invites-public-to-see-its-new-trains-and-buses-on-the-National-Mall.cfm 3/20 WMATA Expo. www.wmata.com/about/news/Metrobus-Dec-17-service-changes.cfm dcist.com/story/23/05/04/dc-free-metrobus-plan-delay-wmata-request/ www.wmata.com/initiatives/budget/fy2024-budget.cfm www.wmata.com/fares/metro-2024-fare-changes/index.cfm www.wmata.com/about/news/Metro-fare-changes-take-effect-Sunday.cfm#:~:text=Regular%20fares&text=Express%20bus%20fares%20will%20be,will%20be%20capped%20at%20%244.50. ruclips.net/video/1bkUrgpac_4/видео.html BART Derailment and Legacy Fleet Retirement: fxtwitter.com/SFBART/status/1781005677646753985?t=Kgmdt9XovAKBE7L1lglEVA&s=19 twitter.com/SFBART/status/1767243877243891787?t=Mgul6qZsvTE-n0G08eNg6g&s=19
Great video Techno! Just a few things/errors I noticed in the SEPTA part... 1. The M4 'derailment' that was reported at York-Dauphin wasn't actually a derailment. After crews inspected the train and the tracks, they found that the train had never left the tracks. Instead, the lead car (1218) had a mechanical issue that resulted on the train stalling out while it was going around the curve. Also, the picture of the scene shown in the video is actually my picture that I took lol. 2. Our XHE40 order has been met with many issues and worker concerns, therefore it is uncertain in the order will be completed. 3. Our new XDE40s are in fact not having a good time, as there are a few that are OOS from accidents. 3429 isn't one of our brand new ones though, it is apart of the older Xcelsior order. All new Xcelsiors are numbered between 3525-3864. Currently the newest one in revenue service is 3694, but we have up to 3715 on septa property. 4. People have been saying our last diesel unit to retire was 8093, but that's not true. Technically speaking, our last D40LF to retire was 8075, which last ran in revenue service on route 15 on March 12th, and the second to last D40LF 8083 last ran on route 15 as well on March 10th. 8093 has been out of revenue service since June of 2023, it had already been retired, and put into the Midvale scrapyard. Then all of a sudden, they decided to pull a random D40LF that was in good condition out of the scrapyard to use for the retirement event. That bus happened to be 8093. It would've made more sense to use 8083 or 8075, as they had just been taken out of service, but that's just septa for ya. 8093 was basically just there so that the general manager could announce publicly that we retired our last diesel, but the REAL last D40LF to retire was 8075! It's very sad seeing these buses go, but hopefully they decide to preserve one. I know this is kind of long, but I hope it kind of gives some clarification. If anyone has anything to add/correct me feel free to let me know!
Man... Washington Township kept crashing their 18000-series cruisers due to being overworked, and the significant loss of 16003, which was a demo bus, crashed in 2022 after it was reassigned from Egg Harbor. But at least one of their 18000-series cruisers are being transferred to Wayne.
Goodnight sir . That was awesome video from you on other Transit Agencies Like Nice Bus New Jersey Transit Suffolk County Transit SPTA WMTA and Bee Line Dash Coach USA and others. And Bart and WMTA Rail. It was worth the wait. You always find a way to make us awesome video sir. I can't wait until New Jersey Transit Bus get there XD-40 sir
Regarding SCT, Orion VII NG Bus #1011 has moved to another operator which is EBT Inc. It was seen operating on Route 1 on June 24th in a YT Vid. Also, besides buses 7109-7112 staying at Hampton Jitney, has SCT made any announcements yet about retiring the remaining ARBOC minibuses (7101-7108/7114-7140) from fixed route service?
I think one of them (11) is already at the JFK Vendor. I wanted to speak about that in this Update, but there was little room for it sadly A friend of mine suggested that RIOC should have gotten XE40s, I'd say I agree with that point
@@Techno-ov5ssThat is what I was thinking, they are a good candidate for electric buses, as their routes are very short. I did think they should've added maybe 2 Eldorado transit buses to their fleet
I'm glad they retired the legacy BART trains. The agency was not keeping them up, they were dirty, with the cloth seats sagging, cars noisy around turns, windows fogged, etc. I used to be embarrassed that the first experience that tourists to SF were getting as they board trains at the airport were these dirty trains. The new trains are so much nicer.
There aren't enough XDE40 Hybrids on this current option order to retire both at once. What will likely happen is the #500s will retire the rest of the 2008 Orion 5.501 Diesels and replace only the worst of the 2009 NABI 40 LFW 2G Hybrids. A future follow-up order will be needed to take out the rest.
No, I work for them, it would create a conflict of interest from different venders on both agencies to different unions respectively, and to answer your question overall Jersey City Mayor Steve Filip who is running for governor of NJ in 2025 & is proposing that idea & keep in mind the NY governor Kathy Hokul would also have to approve that acquisition which I don't think it would ever happen.
Yes, they are building the new Ridgefield Park Bus Facility, which is meant to replace Oradell and Fairview garages in 2029, and Union City is getting their old garage back, and it will house articulated buses.
There is a chance the buses Suffolk County Transit is getting would span multiple years. The initial wave of buses SCT is getting is to retire their remaining Next Gen Orion VII fleet. Leaving them in the same position as Bee-Line, MTA, NICE, and RIOC as far as having a 100% Orion-free roster
@@BrIaNMeRcY1022 You are probably right about that. However, I suspect that SCT will keep their O7 buses longer than everyone else in the area (Bee Lines with their remaining O5 buses).
@@dodge1515 I suspect the same. SCT's initial order would be used as test buses and weed out the worst performing buses. When it is time to order more, the rest of the buses shall arrive. I am sure SCT is in no rush to retire their remaining Orion's.
Notes:
•Bee Line- Xcelsiors 145 and 511 were reported to have various issues in early March.
•NICE Next Gens left: 1810-1811, 1815, 1817-1818, 1824 (6)
•Suffolk- As I was recently informed, Next Gen 1011 is now at EBT.
•SEPTA- 8075 and 8083 were the final D40LFs in regular service. They retired between 3/12-3/13/24 on Route 15. 8093 was the ceremonial retirement unit. Similar situation to the MTA with its RTSs back in 2019.
Credits:
Dodge 15, Newsday: NICE Mini, Herald Community Newspaper, Northwest Bus Sales, Occasional Fanner, Philly Inquirer, NBC Philadelphia, DCist, Mercury News, CBS (BART derailment), The Hill, Greater Greater Washington, Railway Age, KALW, Catenary Maps, KTVU, San Francisco Standard, Western Railway Museum, Alameda Magazine, WAMU
Credit to the people that took the 9117 pics.
Credit to everyone whose picture was used in the Update
If you’re not mentioned on here, but contributed in some way, credit to you as well!
Important Links:
Bee-Line:
Free over the summer: westchester.news12.com/bee-line-bus-service-including-paratransit-will-once-again-be-free-this-summer
NICE Bus:
www.ridemini.com/
www.gannettfleming.com/project/nassau-inter-county-express-battery-electric-bus-charging/
NJT/Coach USA:
twitter.com/KeeleyFox29/status/1778840229605982420?t=NeFWeLCaQ_QPcvJvwygBfA&s=19
ruclips.net/video/R4qzecXn40E/видео.html
abc7ny.com/nj-transit-to-vote-on-15-percent-fare-hike-that-would-go-into-effect-july-1/14640945/
Coach USA Bankruptcy- www.coachusa.com/news-and-media/coach-usa-initiates-voluntary-chapter-eleven?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0YjHB-Hl36Cso8GChWAn-E1eWY6N52eCVgU9S0WCaT1FFcMi14C-sp6D8_aem_AV1fmuTVwmrnoeKNKa8LUuCsvyvwHR4NmhERm-kJt74Nk_wRSMIjikuLdF3JDXuFBOw294Fj1uaXMPR6H6FxeS0O
SEPTA:
cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Southeastern_Pennsylvania_Transportation_Authority#On_Order
instagram.com/p/C2e-GR_vXSP/?igsh=azIzaHNoaWtrdHEx
Girard Trolleys- patch.com/pennsylvania/philadelphia/amp/31777959/iconic-green-and-cream-septa-trolleys-returning-to-service-sunday?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0BdKWc1uh3TbaeoemiAOekCMxuTVi9KZ2PiXmYJ3hcu0ok6qwEW5g2v2I_aem_AU9CCVmyboFu69bh_qyaO55GT1BZFV8pDo_bbgzUs5SImkKXkNEQi9ne0hNwCETspyQJpSBhnDbCdZBdAlitrguS
WMATA Developments:
www.wmata.com/about/news/Fleet-of-the-Future-Opening.cfm
wmata.com/about/news/Metro-Board-approves-budget-that-maintains-service-thanks-to-additional-investments-from-DC-Maryland-and-Virginia.cfm
www.wmata.com/initiatives/plans/bus-priority/all-door-boarding.cfm
www.wmata.com/about/news/The-future-of-transit-is-near-Metro-invites-public-to-see-its-new-trains-and-buses-on-the-National-Mall.cfm 3/20 WMATA Expo.
www.wmata.com/about/news/Metrobus-Dec-17-service-changes.cfm
dcist.com/story/23/05/04/dc-free-metrobus-plan-delay-wmata-request/
www.wmata.com/initiatives/budget/fy2024-budget.cfm
www.wmata.com/fares/metro-2024-fare-changes/index.cfm
www.wmata.com/about/news/Metro-fare-changes-take-effect-Sunday.cfm#:~:text=Regular%20fares&text=Express%20bus%20fares%20will%20be,will%20be%20capped%20at%20%244.50.
ruclips.net/video/1bkUrgpac_4/видео.html
BART Derailment and Legacy Fleet Retirement:
fxtwitter.com/SFBART/status/1781005677646753985?t=Kgmdt9XovAKBE7L1lglEVA&s=19
twitter.com/SFBART/status/1767243877243891787?t=Mgul6qZsvTE-n0G08eNg6g&s=19
Great video Techno! Just a few things/errors I noticed in the SEPTA part...
1. The M4 'derailment' that was reported at York-Dauphin wasn't actually a derailment. After crews inspected the train and the tracks, they found that the train had never left the tracks. Instead, the lead car (1218) had a mechanical issue that resulted on the train stalling out while it was going around the curve. Also, the picture of the scene shown in the video is actually my picture that I took lol.
2. Our XHE40 order has been met with many issues and worker concerns, therefore it is uncertain in the order will be completed.
3. Our new XDE40s are in fact not having a good time, as there are a few that are OOS from accidents. 3429 isn't one of our brand new ones though, it is apart of the older Xcelsior order. All new Xcelsiors are numbered between 3525-3864. Currently the newest one in revenue service is 3694, but we have up to 3715 on septa property.
4. People have been saying our last diesel unit to retire was 8093, but that's not true. Technically speaking, our last D40LF to retire was 8075, which last ran in revenue service on route 15 on March 12th, and the second to last D40LF 8083 last ran on route 15 as well on March 10th.
8093 has been out of revenue service since June of 2023, it had already been retired, and put into the Midvale scrapyard. Then all of a sudden, they decided to pull a random D40LF that was in good condition out of the scrapyard to use for the retirement event. That bus happened to be 8093. It would've made more sense to use 8083 or 8075, as they had just been taken out of service, but that's just septa for ya.
8093 was basically just there so that the general manager could announce publicly that we retired our last diesel, but the REAL last D40LF to retire was 8075! It's very sad seeing these buses go, but hopefully they decide to preserve one.
I know this is kind of long, but I hope it kind of gives some clarification. If anyone has anything to add/correct me feel free to let me know!
2021 Gillig Advantage BRT Plus CNG #2013 is currently OOS due to an accident.
2017 New Flyer XN40 CNG #719 is currently OOS due to an accident.
Man... Washington Township kept crashing their 18000-series cruisers due to being overworked, and the significant loss of 16003, which was a demo bus, crashed in 2022 after it was reassigned from Egg Harbor. But at least one of their 18000-series cruisers are being transferred to Wayne.
Goodnight sir . That was awesome video from you on other Transit Agencies Like Nice Bus New Jersey Transit Suffolk County Transit SPTA WMTA and Bee Line Dash Coach USA and others. And Bart and WMTA Rail. It was worth the wait. You always find a way to make us awesome video sir. I can't wait until New Jersey Transit Bus get there XD-40 sir
Thank you, glad you enjoyed! Also same here, it'll be exciting to see XD40s operating on NJT routes, especially near PABT
Even though it's other systems, I will still watch It.
I personally count NICE as an extension of the MTA, so whatever updates they get, is almost the same as the main MTA system.
Regarding SCT, Orion VII NG Bus #1011 has moved to another operator which is EBT Inc.
It was seen operating on Route 1 on June 24th in a YT Vid.
Also, besides buses 7109-7112 staying at Hampton Jitney, has SCT made any announcements yet about retiring the remaining ARBOC minibuses (7101-7108/7114-7140) from fixed route service?
It is possible that the future orders discussed could retire some of them, along with the Next Gens
At 16:13, the 601 used to have a Hamilton Kmart destination?
Also, RIOC is buying 2 new 2024-25 New Flyer XD40s to replace their remaining 2009 Orion 7.501 NG Hybrids #5 and #6.
I think one of them (11) is already at the JFK Vendor. I wanted to speak about that in this Update, but there was little room for it sadly
A friend of mine suggested that RIOC should have gotten XE40s, I'd say I agree with that point
@@Techno-ov5ss #11 is a 2018 unit.
@@dodge1515 Thanks for the heads up. So would the future units be 12-13?
@@Techno-ov5ss Probably.
@@Techno-ov5ssThat is what I was thinking, they are a good candidate for electric buses, as their routes are very short. I did think they should've added maybe 2 Eldorado transit buses to their fleet
When will your other Next stop news happen?
No time soon probably.
Those few Orions are still in the Bee-Line, they're no longer under Liberty Lines Transit.
I'm glad they retired the legacy BART trains. The agency was not keeping them up, they were dirty, with the cloth seats sagging, cars noisy around turns, windows fogged, etc. I used to be embarrassed that the first experience that tourists to SF were getting as they board trains at the airport were these dirty trains. The new trains are so much nicer.
So, the Westchester County Bee-Line Bus will retire both the NABI-40s and the Orion V suburbans, leaving the elimination of the WM4C bus forever
There aren't enough XDE40 Hybrids on this current option order to retire both at once. What will likely happen is the #500s will retire the rest of the 2008 Orion 5.501 Diesels and replace only the worst of the 2009 NABI 40 LFW 2G Hybrids. A future follow-up order will be needed to take out the rest.
@@dodge1515 I wonder if Bee-Line would order more electrics to take care of whatever's left. Guess it depends on how the current units do
@@Techno-ov5ss I would think so, especially seeing how MTA, and NICE (and soon SCT) are getting XE40s of their own.
@@Techno-ov5ss I do wonder, with congestion pricing out of the picture for now, how with this effect future bus and subway car orders?
What is this "WM4C" you speak of? It's the BxM4C... get it right
You wanna know why fares are so expensive? Blame Bidenomics.
Will NJ Transit buy PATH yet, Techno 7843?
Are there any plans for that somewhere? Where did you hear that from?
No
No, I work for them, it would create a conflict of interest from different venders on both agencies to different unions respectively, and to answer your question overall Jersey City Mayor Steve Filip who is running for governor of NJ in 2025 & is proposing that idea & keep in mind the NY governor Kathy Hokul would also have to approve that acquisition which I don't think it would ever happen.
@@carlos.a.sanchez201 Well, Kathy the homosexual Hochul must resign before NJ Transit will buy PATH before September
@@KennethRembertNYC What?
wmatas fare free bus program fell through a while ago, and is no longer happening
First one in months, WSG techno
What about the LACMTA or CTA?
They're always open to be covered in future videos if the need presents itself
Is this due to low ridership on the bxm4c
wih all there news buses is njt building any new bus garages.
Yes, they are building the new Ridgefield Park Bus Facility, which is meant to replace Oradell and Fairview garages in 2029, and Union City is getting their old garage back, and it will house articulated buses.
Is 8093 going to be preserved?
I'm not sure
Unfortunately it's probably not going to happen. Septa does not like to preserve their history anymore sadly. It could happen though, you never know!
Hi
Wow, so SCT wants to get as many as 93 XE40 Electrics??? Seriously?
Yep!
There is a chance the buses Suffolk County Transit is getting would span multiple years. The initial wave of buses SCT is getting is to retire their remaining Next Gen Orion VII fleet. Leaving them in the same position as Bee-Line, MTA, NICE, and RIOC as far as having a 100% Orion-free roster
@@BrIaNMeRcY1022 You are probably right about that. However, I suspect that SCT will keep their O7 buses longer than everyone else in the area (Bee Lines with their remaining O5 buses).
@@dodge1515 I suspect the same. SCT's initial order would be used as test buses and weed out the worst performing buses. When it is time to order more, the rest of the buses shall arrive. I am sure SCT is in no rush to retire their remaining Orion's.
@@BrIaNMeRcY1022 Yeah, cause unlike MTA and NICE, Suffolk county Transit's units are plain old diesel.
bru wheres the r211 updates
Subway Update is pushed back a bit
@@Techno-ov5ss when?
Increditable news 🗞️ ❤❤❤😮😮😮😮 23:35
Thanks!