@@RetroNChey so this might a be bit late but there are people that do this for free, these websites and groups that charge are super scummy. but that might be the point of the video so I apologize
@@iniassmith3434 I do believe the point of bringing up PKHex in a sly manner was to say that needing to pay money for these things is inherently a scam, though I COULD be mistaken-
Me, who just casually trades away many of his legitimately caught shiny pokemon because he has a lot of extras: I'm doing my part to crash the black market!
I keep my received hacked shinies on Legends Arceus, and my kid has a blast playing with them. He just likes getting them all out and watching them interact with each other :) Occasionally he asks me to move some to Violet so he can have picnics with them. It's pretty cute, and feels like making the best use of a pokemon I wouldn't normally bother with.
I remember when I was a stupid kid when SwSh released, I got one of these hacked Pokémon and was extremely scared I would get banned or something. It was my first experience with Pokérus, so I began to search online to see if it was a hacked status and refused to actually absorb any of the information I looked up, concluding that I was 100% banned. When I released it, I remember using the Master Ball it was holding to catch a random Pokémon, then release it.
I remember back when Sword and Shield were still the most recent games, I would see eternamax eternatus raids, and I would think it was the funniest shit ever. Also, I have a confession to make... I foolishly traded some of the hacked Pokémon away when I got them for the first time, since I didn't want to make it my problem. Now I know better to just release the hacked mons on sight.
That's what iv been doing lol online everyone and I mean EVERYONE has the same legendaries, 1 being Darkrai, I noticed immediately when I got my 1st Darkrai it was holding a master ball, I tripped out, took the ball traded it out and when I got the chance despite the fact I had already received and traded 1 I decided to see if it was an accident. Nope. 8 of 10 will have a MB on them as the item they hold. So and they're always shiny. If you come across a shiny Darkrai in this red PokeBall that makes no sense, doesn't matter the name or what have you, get it. 8 out 10 chances to get a MB and we all know how awesome MBs are. And it looks cool that you have so many because you get like 2 per game if that so.. do with that what you will lol
My stance on hacked Pokémon has always been that it’s harmless if you’re doing it for yourself to play with casually-Pokémon is a game we play for fun so if that’s fun for you, whatever-but keep them away from other people. No trading them to other people who haven’t expressly said they’re okay with it (so no flooding surprise trades with them), no using them in actual tournaments where other people made real effort to prepare their team. Games are meant to be fun so you should play however’s fun for you, but respect other players and don’t try to ruin their fun.
There's a site I've bought the occasional pokemon from for personal use, considering they charge less than a dollar per pokemon and you can have them tailored to your preferences, and changes made don't affect price at all, I think it's a good deal
@@brendanboomhour7606 yeah I did that with shiny Calyrex and his two horses back in the swsh days. they were the only shiny pokemon I was missing and i had no other way of obtaining them. thanks GameFreak.
@@EmeraldSands tourbament play is a completely different topic, the gameplay should be the battling and practicing with your team, not breeding/reseting games to get what you need, especially with how much it costs to actually get dlc pokemon genning shouldnt be so damming as it used to be before
@@brendanboomhour7606 Ok you're getting scammed. If you wanna get Pokémon for yourself use PkHex. I'm not usually into telling people to do so but you're wasting money.
These sites/hacked Pokemon have been around since the 3DS, if not earlier in the DS days. Pokemon X and Y had a lot of hacked shinies in the wondertrades.
I remember there being an exploit in the 3DS web browser anyone with pkhex could use to inject shinies by generating a QR code and scanning it on your 3DS. For like am inth or two before it got fixed people could generate as many as they wanted for free.
I remember them constantly in Ultra Sun / Moon which was my first pokemon games back since Gen 2. I figured that this was always a scam / obvious to anyone who was playing.
Jop. I remember those sites for DS games. Last time GTS and Wonder Trade feels legit was in ealy days of pokemon X/Y, when 3ds was not hacked yet and there was not option to send pokemons from DS games
@@Its_Asteria i mean theres a lot of reasons for competitive genning. Honestly i believe the Pokemon Co. should gen all teams on the spot for tournaments, more efficient and lets players quickly change teams if some new meta gets introduced.
@ be careful we don't want a repeat of what happened in the competitive scene. Disclose its genned or related to a genned Pokemon if you give it to any friends!
I remember the saddest thing. Crown Tundra came out an I found one of these bots on a random regular trade. My mind not reading the name saw a shiny Tapu Coco and immediately thought ‘Omg! It’s a shiny legend I can’t let this go!’ So I trade my own LEGIT shiny Sceptile for it. And I still find it depressing to this day. It took me so many raids to find him and then I just let him go for a hacked shiny.
@@PokeDJ-17 rip. If you have any of the other switch games, I could try to hunt you a Treecko in Scarlet? It can be isolation hunted, so it shouldn't be too hard, and I could use whatever pokeball you originally had it in
I'm not super against genning in a Pokémon you want, despite it being looked down upon. If it's for casual use, then by all means When you ask for ACTUAL money? Nah fam, now it's a crime
Genning mons for competitive is a good thing. Removes the 37362i715 hours of setup or money you have to spend because something (caugh urshifu caugh) is so broken your loosing without it (i hate it). But genning shinys to flex with them? Brother huge L
@@doktorsmiles2034 It doesn't take anywhere near that long to setup a mon. It hasn't since what Gen 7 at least. I don't play competitive and even I know folks saying the barrier is too high are nuts, my only issue and reason to not is the fact there are cheaters there and Nintendo despite what they say do not care to fix it.
@@Arcanua If you want an idea of how long making competitive teams are, check a channel called Imablisy, who make videos making competitive teams for each gens.
@@dse763 I have seen his videos and not only are things overblown in his videos anymore you're not finding people doing this in older gens thanks to how Nintendo does tournies so saying how long it takes in say gen 3 literally does not matter anymore period.
I tried reporting the machamp guys before but Nintendo didn’t do anything. They probably didn’t see my report as I imagine a ton of people make random reports. I’m certain that them smelling anyone making money off of their stuff would get them going nuts, so maybe the attention you’re bringing to it would help! Great video btw. I always love watching your content. It’s both relaxing and engaging
I have an idea, spam Nintendo's social media accounts with links to this video, should help actually getting those scammers taken down if Nintendo actually knows how they operate
Nintendo does not care about this lol. They are more worried about shuffling out more merch for babies, rushing out game titles and appeasing shareholders, also Nintendo doesn't make pokemon lol, that's the pokemon company, which gamefreak only owns 1/3 of You spamming reports about people "copying Nintendo" is a fruitless endeavor too, Nintendo is a giant multinational video game media corporation, they look at consumers like miserable people who can't grow up because life sucks so why not cash out on this misery the system produces. Idk why people simp and act like watchdogs for Nintendo, people had some really cool fan projects and pokemon inspired stuff that was taken down wrongfully, it's like any other soulless group of corporate ghouls trying cash out on for their personal material interests while only appeasing shareholders, treating workers like crap, garbage pay, long hours etc etc In other words: why do you care so much
There are actual discords that do all that for free with it being exactly what you request. There are just some queue times tho and you can pay for express bots, but again thats completely optional. I've used it, but i dont battle online or battle anyone besides the computer, for that matter. I've just messed around with it.
I always take their items and then release genned Pokémon whenever I get them. These sites are scummy. My jaw dropped upon seeing that ‘deal’ for $60. Very informative video!
I do the exact same thing! I have so many master balls and ability patches now, so I’ve started using the master balls to catch Paradox pokémon in the hopes that they get sent to Scarlet and the patches to change the abilities of random pokémon I get in trades before I send em back out into the world again. I figure if I’m gonna get hacked items one way or another, might as well use them to help other players!! and releasing the pokémon takes hacked mons out of the surprise trade pool, so it’s a win for everyone (though lately I’ve noticed a lot are only holding things like shell bells and heavy-duty boots now… at least I don’t have to grind for money ever again, I guess 😅)
Pro tip: releasing a pokémon automatically puts the item in your bag; you don't have to take it off first. I have so many Master balls I'm never gonna use...
@chestnut4860 It's in a similar vein to keeping/using the mon. A lot of people in the community (myself included) really would rather put in the work and find it fun to get those ivs ourselves instead of using one of the hacked mons to get it easier. It gives a better sense of accomplishment and you have more of a connection with that mon because of the hard work you put in. I also just release hacked mons if I get them, and use common trading link codes to trade version exclusives to avoid getting hacked mons 99% of the time.
From my experience, URL nicknamed Pokemon have been a problem in Sword/Shield since late 2019-early 2020. I blame Machamps Gym for it. Fun fact: Selling Pokemon Breaks the Switch's End-user License Agreement.
I remember it in X and Y. It's got worse, though. Edit - I think currently there is an issue in XYORAS where all wondertrades end up being with hackers. One I remember was a shiny level 1 treecko with egg moves. Its nicknames and OT were to a hacking site like in this video. Anecdotally I remember the GTS in X and Y being filled with hackers offering lvl 100 meta set legendaries, in exchange for a pidgey or something. With the nickname and OT being the site once again. At that point wonder trades were fine
Probably because some people were too lazy to rely on luck to actually get them legit...also shiny locked mons weren't a thing till gen 5 apparently. I even had to look around on official Pokemon sites for confirmation just in case I wasn't sure if I got a hacked mon. I think the only Pokemon that was unavailable as a shiny prior to gen 5 was Arceus.
@@divineboi97 Gamesharks can also have downsides, like one of the people I know used a gameshark on one of my pokemon games without my permission and it corrupted the cartridge to the point where I couldn't save any files from that game.
@@divineboi97 I'm not sure. Also I didn't even know there was a cheat book. All I know is that they we're cheat codes for lv99, all shiny, 100% catch rate (any poke ball), all mons can be caught in the wild anywhere.
Now i have an idea to create a site that legitimately trades Shiny Pokémon FREE OF CHARGE, bcs ppl don't want em or are giving for the generosity of their heart. I imagine you can put all the info like, Nature • Movesets • Which game it came from • Stats etc. Also, the more ppl are reviewing the trader w legit Pokémon, the more the trader is boosted n such. I just have an idea and a dream tho. Wish me luck 🎀
So there are actually a bunch of twitch streams that are like this. They have a few hacked switches, and just gen your requests. You can even get all the info you want, for free, and all you have to do is wait in line (a lot of times the wait period is less than 5 minutes).
To some extent that's a good idea, but people will always use others for own gain. Some would absolutely ask for ludicrous things, like Colisseum bonus disc Wishmaker Jirachi with a good nature and great IVs, gen 1 origin shiny mewtwo from VC yellow, shiny manaphy and so on, overall insanely difficult hunts that are some legit hunters white whales. I would rather it be a form of request board, like say the mon you want (let's say rockruff for this) and extras you'd like (own tempo for dusk, maybe an egg move) while keeping IVs (impossible to manipulate in wild encounters, which is most of ScaVi extra shinies) and nature (mints) as more of a "bonus" request than a mandatory. Some comp players DO have extra shinies from breeding for their team, but far less than random phases and the like
@@Arcanua Sure, but i want to focus on the hacked shinies reputation by creating an actual good rep website for it - It's going to be tough with Trader Reviews, the trades themselves and verification of hackedmons, cause you don't know if people actually spent the time hunting for it. I'll need to change the site's idea since it has too many holes. Maybe i'll just create a site where i can hunt for your ideal Pokémon? EV, IV, shiny even if you want! I don't have any fanbase yet so it's going to be bearable early on. I just want to create something for the community man...
I've never really had this problem (seeing as I've never used the wonder trade system on Sword) but it's crazy the lengths these websites use to cover their tracks. And it's also crazy how even though you paid these expensive ass prices to get these Pokémon, only one came with your specific requests, and one didn't come at all. That's a straight up fucked if you ask me.
The only one of these URL shinies I have kept is a breeding Ditto. No use throwing that away when it could be used for good. Unlike the URL starters I always see failing in online Tera Raids...
Yeah, I keep 'em for as long as it takes to work up a good descendant, and then release the genned one. Then I can flood the market with legit babies, which also bring in more scam ones to further purge and release. Puts me in mind of Shadow Pokemon purification haha
Man, I used to enjoy surprise trades, just giving someone one of my unneeded pokémon and hopefully filling out my dex a bit more. It’s unfortunate how it changed. I kind of miss the GTS from gens 6 and 7, but the thing is, INSANE hacked pokémon trades were a thing there too. Wanted a legendary? Cool, but you gotta trade the other person a gendered legendary- something not possible without hacking. So like, what was the point of those? They clogged up the trades then and surprise trades are clogged now…
Not to mention all of the pokemon that were named slurs that would have been easy trades to make but obviously no one would trade them since nicknames couldn’t be changed. GTS turned into a disaster area
Surprisingly, with the shut down of the official servers the gts for DS games has kinda recovered. Sure, there's way fewer listings, but they are pretty in line with how i'd think the gts was intended. People offering version exclusive mons for one another, people offering slightly rarer pokemon for trade and of cause all the trade evolutions. Sure its not terribly active, but at least last i checked (maybe a yaer ago or so?), it was enough to be worth checking out.
If you've got Pokémon home you can do wonder trades in bulk on there. Still might run into hacked mons but it's far less likely because Home's restrictions apply to all Pokémon traded.
@@PiggyBonkers0309 To be fair, training Pokémon is pretty tedious so some people generate Pokémon with perfect IVs and all that to skip the process. Helpful for Pokémon like Gholdengo that already has a tedious method of evolution behind it. Though the best feeling comes from sweeping one of those teams. I did with my legit shiny Espathra, Speed Boost + Lumina Crash indeed went brrrr
Why anyone would spend money on this is beyond me. PKHex has been around since forever. Better yet, just breed for it yourself. Idk why people want to play the main series competitive like Showdown. People who actually breed their competitive Pokémon deserve so much praise.
@@komi___ egg moves are easy now lol. Just gotta give it a mirror herb and remove slots for the desired amount of moves, and then put it in a picnic with a Pokémon that knows the egg moves for like 60 seconds and then exit the picnic. Your Pokémon will have the egg moves now
@@komi___ The only limitation is that if a pokemon learns the egg move via the Mirror Herb, it needs to do so again if it forgets the move. basically, breeding an egg move will make sure it's permanently in the movelist...for that game, since home now saves moves per-game.
Why anyone would spend money on this is beyond me. Like even if you want to just hack in unobtainable shinies, PKHex has been around since forever and it’s free. If you play competitive, just breed for it yourself. Idk why you’d treat the main series like Showdown where you have perfectly curated teams in seconds. People who actually breed their competitive Pokémon deserve so much praise.
No, they don't because they are weirdos with nothing better to do in their lives. Breeding Pokemon for perfect stats is something you do when you are a loser with no life lol.
I recently saw Verlisify for the first time and asked how, if genned Pokemon are freely accessible to everyone, is it considered cheating, and he basically said that anyone who doesn’t see how hacking a switch is cheating is considered an idiot. I bought Scarlet in August 2024 and haven’t played Pokemon since alpha sapphire, so can anyone explain how acquiring a genned Pokemon leads to your switch being hacked please? Thank you to everyone who takes the time to read and respond to this question. I genuinely don’t know much about all this stuff.
@@christopherlarson7579 If by genned pokemon you mean generated there isn't any way for your switch to get hacked [even if they edited the code of the genned pokemon to somehow be malicious because of the hack check systems in place!
@@christopherlarson7579 It doesn’t result in your switch getting banned at all. The only way that a switch can get banned is if you mod the hardware itself, such as by jailbreaking it. Anyone who says that a genned Pokémon can get your switch banned is just an idiot (aka Verlisify lol). Genned Pokémon can get you banned from official tournaments if they are genned with bad data, but if they are identical in every way to a legitimate Pokémon, nothing will happen and you can use them freely.
I remember getting a Pokémon generator software when Nintendo DS games where popular. You build your Pokémon and it generated an Action Replay code you can use to get your Pokémon and as many as you want. It was pretty rad. I wish I could use those on modern consoles.
18:30 the problem is really that you can't stop the cycle, because they can always just hack more pokemon in. I just use surprise trade with breeding rejects, and steal the item from any hacked shinies, before hucking that pokeball into the sea as far as I can possibly throw it.
Imo I don't care about genned Pokémon. When I receive one, I just let them in my box for collection purporses. Though I would never buy one in real life, I love to have many variants and shinies on my collection.
why would anyone pay for these services when there are sites and services that let you trade any mon you want to yourself for free, even 'legit' clones of events or entirely fabricated ones?
My son's game is FULL of these. All of his Pokemon are level 100 hacked shinies with a website for a name. He loves them. He's not buying them, he's got them from Surprise Trade, so I'm not going to make him release them. I just don't get it. Then again, I think if this were a thing when I was 9, I definitely would. I know I used Action Replay cheats to get 20 shiny Lugia in grass patches when I was around his age.
This is why I stopped doing Surprise Trades. Imagine trading away your breedjects and then you get a URLmon. I'd be funing and I just instantly released them.
I don't really see the problem with genned Pokemon, as long as they are legal (no illegal moves or abilities). It saves so much time and it gives you the same result as when you waste time breeding. I don't think they should be banned at all. I use them in competitive all the time after all.
true like if the moves came with the mons whats the problem? there is no advantage since its all learned moves I don't understand why its bad... You can spend more time practicing with the team than breeding for specific things. People just want to be difficult and don't like saving time I guess
What’s funny is I’ve been getting these Pokémon since 2017 not just sword and shield but in Pokémon sun. I’ve done well over 1000 wonder trades and about 10% have been hacked shinys.
I think its important to understand that all competitive players have "fake" pokemon. Just not from those sites. "Fake" pokemon have gotten so good its nearly impossible to see a difference to a real one. But again people who get those have their own sources they do not share
I have Purchased 2 Illegal Pokemon back on 3DS era in ORAS on Ebay. It was a Shiny Ponyta and Shiny Kyogre. I felt weird about it after I learned Kyogre was shiny locked and was confirmed they were illegally Genned. The third Pokemon I officially shiny Bred for was Ponyta to make up for that mistake in my life. I am now a casual Shiny Hunter and waste hours upon hours of my time obtaining a different coloured model.
And now you can do the Shiny Ponyta quest in Legends Arceus, and as long as you don't turn it in to complete the quest, you can reload the area for unlimited shiny Ponytas legitimately 😅
@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli I didn't know at the time it was infinite I turned it in long ago 😆 I got Ponyta Community Day from GO too, so got a few in different games
Reminds me of when I decided to look into a youtube/twitch channel that trades people duped Pokémon on streams as well as through discord. I never ended up doing anything with the information I gathered after all my editing though originally I was planning on working on a video since the information went deeper than I expected. Edit: Now that I'm reflecting on it since I have been inactive for a while I think I'm going to re-edit the video and see what I can do with the footage since after looking back at it the concept was very interesting and I had a well structured intro. Thanks for the inspiration to be motivated again!
First time viewer here. I remember the DS/3DS days where up to gen 5 to 7 every trade felt natural and like real, also nice emote smileys hoodie design for your sprite icon.
A lot of people say my shiny Pokemon on my competitive team are hacked Granted the Mimikyu and Dusk Mane Necrozma (Necrozma half) are, but my CInccino was traded to me by a friend in a Union Circle, and my Shiny Eternatus is from the GameStop distribution.
In my four days of owning a copy of Shield, I didn't finish the game until day 2, since I used day one to shiny hunt a cinderace (shiny japan ditto method). I used the wonder trade with like, the 4 whole pages I had of scorbunnies I had. I had a lot of trades, the only actual legit shiny I got from it was a Dubwool, but the non legit ones... I essentially mugged them of their held item and sent them to the Inceneration box
What is wrong with having the hacked Pokémon? Like they don’t seem overpowered but even if you don’t use it for champion fighting, what’s wrong with them if you just get it from a trade? Like it’s just a shiny Pokémon you randomly got
14:32 The current price of a potion in scarlet and violet is 200 Pokedollars, assuming that the pokedollar is equivalent to the japanese yen, 1.99 USD is equal to 298 pokedollars as of writing, that is almost 100 pokedollars more than a normal potion, giant rip off
I wont say no to a foreign ditto which was blatantly hacked, its just more convenient to get it immediately compared to wonder trading for a legit foreign ditto for hours upon hours. Doesnt mean im happy about it, the implications of its existence honestly speaks more about GAME FREAK's incompetence than these jokers giving me the keys to an easier shiny hisui Zorua to advertise to the same kids who have learned to ignore advertising over the past decade shoving the stuff down their throats.
I've used pokemon home's mobile version to find language specific mons. As well as looking for them in discord servers I'm in. I've also got friends from other countries rhat I can easily get opposite language pokemon from. So it's not too difficult so to speak. But yeah if you haven't tried those methods, I'd recommend that. That way you don't have to wonder trade specifically
A solution should making pokemon showdown offcial or create a pokemon stadium, you still have to buy the game or dlc but can transfer a mon there or make a ''digital copy'' and there you could customize it, this would eliminate or at least drastically reduce these pirate sites
My sister and me have been doing a vs. Wonderlocke of Scarlet/Violet, and anytime we get a hacked mon, we just take the item's, release it, and go catch another mon from the same route/area.
The hacked shiny pokemon situation is terrible, but the only good thing is that you can essentially get more items from them. Just take the held item off the hacked mon, then release it. Who could say no to free master balls.
Even worse via GTS, no items come with them when you get stuck with one of 'em. I hate how little info the GTS shows you to base your decision on if a trade for a pokemon (shiny or not) is safe to go through with. Like, let the person see the origin info and OT name. But noooooooooooo, the app doesn't want to help you avoid genned Pokemon.
@@ConnorGarrett I missed that, only having got two 3DS consoles after March 2024 to play the Alola series pokemon games. The worst genned pokemon I've ended up via pokemon home GTS was a one with a trainer ID of 00000 and capture year of 2050. It's like the GTS doesn't even bother to check basic info for validity.
@ReinMixTape you missed a bit. But to summarise. Somehow, people ( probably hackers) were able to deposit pokemon with really offensive nicknames. I'm not gonna say what names, but all I'll say is that one of them was a very bad word that rhymes with a character from winnie the pooh.
1:55 The photo with the fighting tera type shiny Haxorus is me! My first ever shiny received in a tera raid and was super excited! Until of course along came with it a suspicious amount of herba mystica from the raid. This prompted me to post that screenshot on my Reddit, confirming my suspicions. A shame really but a shiny and herba mystica nonetheless🤷♀️
@@YoursTruly007 wait, I've never played the newer switch games, how could you get a hacked pokemon through a raid? Aren't they similar to like, wild spawns but in a cave??
@absolutemaniac7368 I believe they host them under account names from discords etc and if you join them they are always shiny. I found it to be more prolific and easier to spot with the sword and shield raids. I have no idea how they actually do it lol but I was farming for fighting tera shards that day and just wasn’t paying attention to what I joined and yeah🤷🏻♀️
I believe they host them under account names from discords and stuff as shown in this video. I found it to be more obvious and prolific in the sword and shield games. I have no idea how they do it so that the Pokémon are always shiny, perfect IV’s etc but that particular day I was farming fighting tera shards and just didn’t pay attention to what raid I had joined lol🤷🏻♀️😅
Lately I hate these sites even more, because they have taken to send trade evo pokemon, so you have to sit there and watch them evolve, wasting your time.
It js hilarious I was actually one of the people who originally came up with Machamps Gym it originally was meant to be a way for people who get scammed out of their pokemon to get replacements there was no name or weird OT’s its a shame how it went once the owner Tommy decided he wanted to run it more money based he ended up kicking all of the original Mod staff and then hired all new people just know it is not a money laundering scheme just a shitty guy making money off of people if you have questions about it let me know. I know the original years worth of history
You know it's bad when I have to use cheating hardware to UN-HACK a name so that I can name the pokemon something that isn't a scam website, basically hacking to counteract hacking.
8:18 I never understood why people used these services, especially now knowing the prices. It’s beyond easy to get shinies at this point, and if you really need to gen something it’s even easier to do it yourself.
Would be nice if you could get version exclusives or shiny legendaries legitimately. I want to shiny hunt Iron Moth but I’m not buying Violet and completing the dex AGAIN.
How to help this situation. Make a box named FLIPPING TRASH. Put all your hacked pokemon in it. Show your friend saying there actually real and tell him you have his favorite shiny Release it in front of him If this process works you will know if he yells at you and punts you to the moon
The worst part about this is gamefreaks reasoning for changing how home works. I freaking lose egg moves because game freak makes competitive too time consuming.
There's free places for all of this... it's insane that so many people are actually paying for this crap. Also, my stance on those raid dens is that they're within the confines of the game, so it's harmless to join and catch one.
I know a lot of people immediately release these hacked Pokemon, but I generally keep them around because I don't do competitive anyway. Something something, circumstances of one's birth, something something. They just kinda chill out, maybe do farm work an Legends Arceus
If there was a way to report players, I would report the website named Pokémon. I see people bring them in to Raids where they aren't even super effective, and often that sabotages the raid for everyone else. Those players are a menace, but there's nothing I can do to even screen them before starting a raid.
@@mobious01 it IS annoying to lose a raid for the 50th time in a row due to someone bringing a bad hacked pokemon. And if a system like that were to be put in place nothing would likely come of it seeing the millions upon millions of players anyways lol.
@@animeloveer97 The amount of times I've seen hacked and not hacked Cinderace being brought to a raid and immediately dying 20 times in a row makes me think that some pokemon are just not good for raiding whether you know how to use them or not
I see hacked pokemon as harmless as long as you arent fighting with them against real people. Whats the harm in keeping them if theyre only for your entertainment and no one else sees them?
I do not have the patience for shiny hunting and honestly sometimes want the genned Pokemon for a joke. They're for my own personal fun. Never pay more than free for genned Pokemon. It's possible to find places where you might have to wait in line, but you will get whatever mon you want for free.
If the mons have a special Pokeball; I keep them for breeding legitimate pairs then release them permanently. If it's caught in a regular ball; they get Thanos Snapped immediately.
I’d love if someone could talk about the old Pokémon GTS DNS thing. Where you would put in a DNS code and when you logged onto the gts you’d receive a seemingly random Pokémon, it was a corner stone of my early Pokémon years but no one seems to ever mention it and no one has ever done an “explained” style video on it (that I’ve found)
thank you for your effort on researching this!! its always disappointing when you actually have to "support"/give money to these groups just for research. and the fact that you paid money and they gave you Only the pokémon and not all the other specifics u provided 🤦 many layers to being an annoying scam. also unrelated; how did you make your text all pixely on your screen?
This is not self promotion but just common sense but common sense really. Many of these sites have transaction like $15 custom pokemon trades yet there are somewhat free ways to get ANY pokemon. So yeah its pretty much a scam there are way better ways to do this, but overall dont ruined your experince playing pokemon just to wonder trade or pay these scam sites for life. Play for fun, battle for awhile, delete any scam pokemon you get (or secretly breed them idk if thats wrong), and enjoy playing pokemon.
I learned how to gen pokemon my self cause i was sick of the website nicknames and ot from wonder trading so after learning how this was done, i got a second switch, and changed the names on the ot and nickname and send it back out like everyone else does. now all i do is have max herbas and give myself shiny sandwiches to shiny hunt legit lol. if someone asks me to make them a pokemon i refuse cause im not like that.
I was in high school during the XY/ORAS era. A friend and I started a little business where we bred Pokemon and EV trained them. All legal, no hacking or cloning. Between the two of us we had several games from Gen 3 to Gen 6 to get specific moves, Dreamworld Pokemon and Pokemon in Johto Balls. And it wasn't that expensive considering the planning we put into it but we couldn't compete with the hacked Pokemon market, especially on Facebook marketplace people just wouldn't pay what we were asking when they could get a hacked one for much cheaper. We figured it wasn't gonna work and quit after a few months. 😢
Team Rocket went from a organization stealing Pokémon and keeping them to now becoming Pokémon Amazon to everyone. They even do discounts to increase cash flow bruv.
I got a ton of fake hacked Pokémon all the way back in sun and moon before the ultras came out which really made me hate the fact you can’t change nicknames
I understand why people hacked in previous games, where grinding without glitches and proper timing would take weeks, but I’m pretty sure one run through SV’s base game festival tournament with an amulet coin gives you enough money for a full set of IVs of bottle caps. Takes a bit longer if you want a certain attack or speed IV, but that is literally it. Mapped it all out, it’s like 140,000 pokebucks to go from a Pokémon with ideal moves and nothing else to a perfect nature and IVs, not to mention the amount of EV items, TRs, and caps you can farm from event raids
Nah, cut this doublespeak crap. Hacked is hacked, and genned pokemon should absolutely be considered hacked and a form of cheating. Quit revising language to justify your laziness.
@@RJuttner20 So you're a cheater and proud of it. Got it. The fuck is the point of playing games if you skip the actual game? You're here commenting trying to justify cheating on RUclips so I know you've got time to put in the work, you're just a lazy ass who doesn't want to but still wants a seat at the table of the people actually working to get good and earn their shit. I mean, you can cheat all you want but don't whine when you can't go online in your game anymore. You did it to yourself by being an entitled, spoiled brat with no work ethic who wanted to lazily cut corners.
I kinda understood why people would hack mons in older games, I never did breeding for Ivs and what not. But with the bottle cap training, herbs, ease of access to ability capsules and even ability patches now. I really see no excuse. It doesn't take long to actually work for the pokemon you want to use, and getting the pokemon you are using and training them has ALWAYS been part of earning the win.
I will willingly admit I got a ditto from machamps 2 years ago just to comment on how bad the price gouging is now. I paid 5 bucks for that ditto with everything listed in this vid included, even my OT.
I love genning pokemon! As someone who did the IV breeding and EV training process as far back as FRLG, I'm tired of training Pokemon and just don't have the time to train every Pokemon I want to use. I won't say the service I use, but they're out there and don't all require you to pay or use terrible OTs.
i can give some insight to this but as someone who did genning for bragging rights *somewhat but basically free* its a scam to be paying $10 usd for a pokemon *not saying i would now bc i dont own a switch* i would 100% charge like a $1 for any genning but also i was in a free server that did bot genning and not the worst thing ever and best of all it was free *not going to promote their discord tho* so yee basic summary of this message is its complete utter bs thats it cost $10 usd for these sites that only really take 5-10 mins to actually gen it in
God I remember catching (yes catching not actually breeding) some competitive Pokemon in Scarlet just for this one single gym challenge at the blue berry academy and I had honestly put so much effort in finding a damn piplup with the right nature and lemme tell you it was so satisfying to beat that challenge with the caught Pokemon. I like those surprise trade, I kept the majority of those shinies because I feel like I just want shines in my box and kids getting those free shinies can problaby be feel happy too
Team rocket be trying all sorts of new strats I can’t lie 💀
The next one is to open a malasada store to make more money
This is the new mewto
IKR LOL 😭
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Funny enough there is one called "Rocket's Black Market"
Damn… they really are going too far
Still less of a scam than NFTs
You got me there ngl
@@RetroNChey so this might a be bit late but there are people that do this for free, these websites and groups that charge are super scummy. but that might be the point of the video so I apologize
@@iniassmith3434anyone can do this for free, pkhex exists guys!
Somehow almost as embarrassing in my opinion tho
@@iniassmith3434 I do believe the point of bringing up PKHex in a sly manner was to say that needing to pay money for these things is inherently a scam, though I COULD be mistaken-
I just keep the hackmons around to breed legitimate Pokémon from them.
I even have two dedicated boxes called "The Hall of Shame" for them.
i breed them then release em once their job is done
May i copy your idea and name some boxes "the hall of shame"
mines called quarantine box 🗿
Except children from illegitimate parents are also illegitimate
@@NeroLordofChaos Same. I use my perfect, shiny, hacked Ditto to breed all my actual shinies.
Me, who just casually trades away many of his legitimately caught shiny pokemon because he has a lot of extras: I'm doing my part to crash the black market!
Me, trading away extra shinies from Pokemon GO: It ain't much, but it's honest work
Same here I got a shiny sizer and I was like nooo not another one I already have 4
too bad all those shinies you send out just go to the hacked shinies traders, cause they are really the only ones using surprise trade nowadays
@@PicketPolecat I trade my shinies off for Legendaries
I I've stopped wonder trading my extra shinies. All I get back is fake shinies
I keep my received hacked shinies on Legends Arceus, and my kid has a blast playing with them. He just likes getting them all out and watching them interact with each other :) Occasionally he asks me to move some to Violet so he can have picnics with them. It's pretty cute, and feels like making the best use of a pokemon I wouldn't normally bother with.
@@rachelledavison good thinking man
@@rachelledavison that's so cute in an incredibly wholesome way 😭💙
that's actually probably the best way to use the hacked shinies 😭😭
Best way to use them (I just keep them in my boxes or transfer them to games I barely have any progress in so I can speed up the process)
Just make sure you don't put a shiny Giratina in there, lest you crash the game with Shadow Force.
Me, I just take the items because I need the master balls and the ability patches
Yep, grab the stuff and release aka delete these url mons
I remember when I was a stupid kid when SwSh released, I got one of these hacked Pokémon and was extremely scared I would get banned or something. It was my first experience with Pokérus, so I began to search online to see if it was a hacked status and refused to actually absorb any of the information I looked up, concluding that I was 100% banned.
When I released it, I remember using the Master Ball it was holding to catch a random Pokémon, then release it.
I remember back when Sword and Shield were still the most recent games, I would see eternamax eternatus raids, and I would think it was the funniest shit ever. Also, I have a confession to make... I foolishly traded some of the hacked Pokémon away when I got them for the first time, since I didn't want to make it my problem. Now I know better to just release the hacked mons on sight.
That's what iv been doing lol online everyone and I mean EVERYONE has the same legendaries, 1 being Darkrai, I noticed immediately when I got my 1st Darkrai it was holding a master ball, I tripped out, took the ball traded it out and when I got the chance despite the fact I had already received and traded 1 I decided to see if it was an accident. Nope. 8 of 10 will have a MB on them as the item they hold. So and they're always shiny. If you come across a shiny Darkrai in this red PokeBall that makes no sense, doesn't matter the name or what have you, get it. 8 out 10 chances to get a MB and we all know how awesome MBs are. And it looks cool that you have so many because you get like 2 per game if that so.. do with that what you will lol
Lol I did the same. Sadly they don't always come with said items
My stance on hacked Pokémon has always been that it’s harmless if you’re doing it for yourself to play with casually-Pokémon is a game we play for fun so if that’s fun for you, whatever-but keep them away from other people. No trading them to other people who haven’t expressly said they’re okay with it (so no flooding surprise trades with them), no using them in actual tournaments where other people made real effort to prepare their team. Games are meant to be fun so you should play however’s fun for you, but respect other players and don’t try to ruin their fun.
100% agree with you.
There's a site I've bought the occasional pokemon from for personal use, considering they charge less than a dollar per pokemon and you can have them tailored to your preferences, and changes made don't affect price at all, I think it's a good deal
@@brendanboomhour7606 yeah I did that with shiny Calyrex and his two horses back in the swsh days. they were the only shiny pokemon I was missing and i had no other way of obtaining them. thanks GameFreak.
@@EmeraldSands tourbament play is a completely different topic, the gameplay should be the battling and practicing with your team, not breeding/reseting games to get what you need, especially with how much it costs to actually get dlc pokemon genning shouldnt be so damming as it used to be before
@@brendanboomhour7606
Ok you're getting scammed.
If you wanna get Pokémon for yourself use PkHex.
I'm not usually into telling people to do so but you're wasting money.
These sites/hacked Pokemon have been around since the 3DS, if not earlier in the DS days. Pokemon X and Y had a lot of hacked shinies in the wondertrades.
I remember there being an exploit in the 3DS web browser anyone with pkhex could use to inject shinies by generating a QR code and scanning it on your 3DS. For like am inth or two before it got fixed people could generate as many as they wanted for free.
I remember them constantly in Ultra Sun / Moon which was my first pokemon games back since Gen 2. I figured that this was always a scam / obvious to anyone who was playing.
Jop. I remember those sites for DS games. Last time GTS and Wonder Trade feels legit was in ealy days of pokemon X/Y, when 3ds was not hacked yet and there was not option to send pokemons from DS games
i hacked every pokemon gen when the Nintendo device was hacked. i never thought about giving myself the pokemon only things like rare candy
Genning casually is chill. Its the monetization and the attempt to use such mons in a competitive scene that causes problems.
@@xenmysterious5062 yep ima keep using genning bots on discord bc i use dumb unorthodox strats in casual battles
Agreed. And there's people even here in the comments trying to justify both monetization or competitive genning and it's wild to me.
@@Its_Asteria i mean theres a lot of reasons for competitive genning. Honestly i believe the Pokemon Co. should gen all teams on the spot for tournaments, more efficient and lets players quickly change teams if some new meta gets introduced.
I’ll gen the breeder just so I don’t have to work for the ivs and nature then I breed it for a shiny competitive one
@ be careful we don't want a repeat of what happened in the competitive scene. Disclose its genned or related to a genned Pokemon if you give it to any friends!
I remember the saddest thing. Crown Tundra came out an I found one of these bots on a random regular trade. My mind not reading the name saw a shiny Tapu Coco and immediately thought ‘Omg! It’s a shiny legend I can’t let this go!’ So I trade my own LEGIT shiny Sceptile for it. And I still find it depressing to this day. It took me so many raids to find him and then I just let him go for a hacked shiny.
Lmao that's brutal
@@lookatmyzombies9377 I know. I could’ve transferred him to Scarlet but now I can’t.
Oh no, I'm so sorry! Did you ever get another shiny Sceptile?
@@AllegedlyHuman Nope. My dumbass then lost Pokémon sword so that was fun 🙃
@@PokeDJ-17 rip. If you have any of the other switch games, I could try to hunt you a Treecko in Scarlet? It can be isolation hunted, so it shouldn't be too hard, and I could use whatever pokeball you originally had it in
15:24 You, uh, wrote Adamant in the google form.
That's what I was thinking lmao
I'm not super against genning in a Pokémon you want, despite it being looked down upon. If it's for casual use, then by all means
When you ask for ACTUAL money? Nah fam, now it's a crime
but why tho? you can either find free bots or premium is up to the user to decide
Genning mons for competitive is a good thing. Removes the 37362i715 hours of setup or money you have to spend because something (caugh urshifu caugh) is so broken your loosing without it (i hate it).
But genning shinys to flex with them? Brother huge L
@@doktorsmiles2034 It doesn't take anywhere near that long to setup a mon. It hasn't since what Gen 7 at least. I don't play competitive and even I know folks saying the barrier is too high are nuts, my only issue and reason to not is the fact there are cheaters there and Nintendo despite what they say do not care to fix it.
@@Arcanua If you want an idea of how long making competitive teams are, check a channel called Imablisy, who make videos making competitive teams for each gens.
@@dse763 I have seen his videos and not only are things overblown in his videos anymore you're not finding people doing this in older gens thanks to how Nintendo does tournies so saying how long it takes in say gen 3 literally does not matter anymore period.
I tried reporting the machamp guys before but Nintendo didn’t do anything. They probably didn’t see my report as I imagine a ton of people make random reports. I’m certain that them smelling anyone making money off of their stuff would get them going nuts, so maybe the attention you’re bringing to it would help! Great video btw. I always love watching your content. It’s both relaxing and engaging
doubt it specially when you free bots
I have an idea, spam Nintendo's social media accounts with links to this video, should help actually getting those scammers taken down if Nintendo actually knows how they operate
@@brendanboomhour7606I doubt they really care as it isnt causing any actual harm, and you can just release them
Machamps has already been nuked in the past, a few days later he was already genning Pokemon.
Nintendo does not care about this lol. They are more worried about shuffling out more merch for babies, rushing out game titles and appeasing shareholders, also Nintendo doesn't make pokemon lol, that's the pokemon company, which gamefreak only owns 1/3 of
You spamming reports about people "copying Nintendo" is a fruitless endeavor too, Nintendo is a giant multinational video game media corporation, they look at consumers like miserable people who can't grow up because life sucks so why not cash out on this misery the system produces.
Idk why people simp and act like watchdogs for Nintendo, people had some really cool fan projects and pokemon inspired stuff that was taken down wrongfully, it's like any other soulless group of corporate ghouls trying cash out on for their personal material interests while only appeasing shareholders, treating workers like crap, garbage pay, long hours etc etc
In other words: why do you care so much
There are actual discords that do all that for free with it being exactly what you request. There are just some queue times tho and you can pay for express bots, but again thats completely optional. I've used it, but i dont battle online or battle anyone besides the computer, for that matter. I've just messed around with it.
I use them for Pokedex lol I have no friends 😂
@@animeloveer97 the only reason i use them is for pokedex too, im too lazy to do it for legends arceus or scarlet and violet lol
What’s the problem with using them on online battles lmao nobody cares it’s literally a Pokemon game
i use them for battling because i don't feel like breeding for max ivs, ev training, and praying that i get the shiny i like
@@ValorizedStudiossamee!!!
Only kept a hacked shiny Ditto because its language was set from Italy so basically I use it for pokemon breeding 🗿
I do the same thing with the ditto I got.
Yeah... that's basically what I do with a wonder trade ditto as soon as I get one. Just use it for making babies. Lmao
I did the same when I got a japanese ditto back during sword and shield
Based
@@ChonkersCentral masuda method
I always take their items and then release genned Pokémon whenever I get them. These sites are scummy. My jaw dropped upon seeing that ‘deal’ for $60.
Very informative video!
I do the exact same thing! I have so many master balls and ability patches now, so I’ve started using the master balls to catch Paradox pokémon in the hopes that they get sent to Scarlet and the patches to change the abilities of random pokémon I get in trades before I send em back out into the world again. I figure if I’m gonna get hacked items one way or another, might as well use them to help other players!! and releasing the pokémon takes hacked mons out of the surprise trade pool, so it’s a win for everyone
(though lately I’ve noticed a lot are only holding things like shell bells and heavy-duty boots now… at least I don’t have to grind for money ever again, I guess 😅)
Pro tip: releasing a pokémon automatically puts the item in your bag; you don't have to take it off first.
I have so many Master balls I'm never gonna use...
@@rayveewrites6268 Thanks!
Why not breed them? Good ivs.
@chestnut4860 It's in a similar vein to keeping/using the mon. A lot of people in the community (myself included) really would rather put in the work and find it fun to get those ivs ourselves instead of using one of the hacked mons to get it easier. It gives a better sense of accomplishment and you have more of a connection with that mon because of the hard work you put in. I also just release hacked mons if I get them, and use common trading link codes to trade version exclusives to avoid getting hacked mons 99% of the time.
From my experience, URL nicknamed Pokemon have been a problem in Sword/Shield since late 2019-early 2020. I blame Machamps Gym for it.
Fun fact: Selling Pokemon Breaks the Switch's End-user License Agreement.
Yeah, from what I've heard - SwSh was the game in which many spotted this issue for the first time
I remember it in X and Y. It's got worse, though.
Edit - I think currently there is an issue in XYORAS where all wondertrades end up being with hackers. One I remember was a shiny level 1 treecko with egg moves. Its nicknames and OT were to a hacking site like in this video.
Anecdotally I remember the GTS in X and Y being filled with hackers offering lvl 100 meta set legendaries, in exchange for a pidgey or something. With the nickname and OT being the site once again. At that point wonder trades were fine
I remember getting a shiny pheramosa that advertised a RUclips channel back in S/M
@@user-uv2cp1qd1ji mean, xyoras have no online trades anymore anyways unless you have a hacked 3ds, so of course hacks are more common.
@@LPBvgc they've been around forever. As soon as wonder trade became a thing
An ingame berry for... 2 USD? Bro, in my country, I can get some fresh bananas with only two bucks. What the actual hell.
> types Adamant in the recorded video footage
> gives the site trash for it being Adamant
yep
Hacked Pokémon were around like this even since Gen 3. People sold Emerald cartridges fully loaded with all 386 shiny mons.
Probably because some people were too lazy to rely on luck to actually get them legit...also shiny locked mons weren't a thing till gen 5 apparently. I even had to look around on official Pokemon sites for confirmation just in case I wasn't sure if I got a hacked mon. I think the only Pokemon that was unavailable as a shiny prior to gen 5 was Arceus.
GameSharks and action replays made obtainable generated pokemon easy
@@divineboi97 Gamesharks can also have downsides, like one of the people I know used a gameshark on one of my pokemon games without my permission and it corrupted the cartridge to the point where I couldn't save any files from that game.
@@djbaconbitzinc was the code he used legit from the cheat code book or something he wrote himself
@@divineboi97 I'm not sure. Also I didn't even know there was a cheat book. All I know is that they we're cheat codes for lv99, all shiny, 100% catch rate (any poke ball), all mons can be caught in the wild anywhere.
Now i have an idea to create a site that legitimately trades Shiny Pokémon FREE OF CHARGE, bcs ppl don't want em or are giving for the generosity of their heart.
I imagine you can put all the info like, Nature • Movesets • Which game it came from • Stats etc.
Also, the more ppl are reviewing the trader w legit Pokémon, the more the trader is boosted n such.
I just have an idea and a dream tho. Wish me luck 🎀
So there are actually a bunch of twitch streams that are like this. They have a few hacked switches, and just gen your requests. You can even get all the info you want, for free, and all you have to do is wait in line (a lot of times the wait period is less than 5 minutes).
you would be a hacker, everyone knoes that any shiny traded is automatic hacked mon but good luck on your service
People already do this in official pokemon groups...
To some extent that's a good idea, but people will always use others for own gain. Some would absolutely ask for ludicrous things, like Colisseum bonus disc Wishmaker Jirachi with a good nature and great IVs, gen 1 origin shiny mewtwo from VC yellow, shiny manaphy and so on, overall insanely difficult hunts that are some legit hunters white whales. I would rather it be a form of request board, like say the mon you want (let's say rockruff for this) and extras you'd like (own tempo for dusk, maybe an egg move) while keeping IVs (impossible to manipulate in wild encounters, which is most of ScaVi extra shinies) and nature (mints) as more of a "bonus" request than a mandatory. Some comp players DO have extra shinies from breeding for their team, but far less than random phases and the like
@@Arcanua Sure, but i want to focus on the hacked shinies reputation by creating an actual good rep website for it - It's going to be tough with Trader Reviews, the trades themselves and verification of hackedmons, cause you don't know if people actually spent the time hunting for it.
I'll need to change the site's idea since it has too many holes. Maybe i'll just create a site where i can hunt for your ideal Pokémon? EV, IV, shiny even if you want! I don't have any fanbase yet so it's going to be bearable early on.
I just want to create something for the community man...
I've never really had this problem (seeing as I've never used the wonder trade system on Sword) but it's crazy the lengths these websites use to cover their tracks. And it's also crazy how even though you paid these expensive ass prices to get these Pokémon, only one came with your specific requests, and one didn't come at all. That's a straight up fucked if you ask me.
The only one of these URL shinies I have kept is a breeding Ditto. No use throwing that away when it could be used for good. Unlike the URL starters I always see failing in online Tera Raids...
they fail because of the user not the mons themselves
Nothing wrong with keeping them. Some communities will even remove the name for you and add your OT if that matters
Yeah, I keep 'em for as long as it takes to work up a good descendant, and then release the genned one. Then I can flood the market with legit babies, which also bring in more scam ones to further purge and release.
Puts me in mind of Shadow Pokemon purification haha
@@Aaron-hv4hrjust gen one yourself at that point 😂
@@animeloveer97 not everyone can
Man, I used to enjoy surprise trades, just giving someone one of my unneeded pokémon and hopefully filling out my dex a bit more. It’s unfortunate how it changed.
I kind of miss the GTS from gens 6 and 7, but the thing is, INSANE hacked pokémon trades were a thing there too. Wanted a legendary? Cool, but you gotta trade the other person a gendered legendary- something not possible without hacking. So like, what was the point of those? They clogged up the trades then and surprise trades are clogged now…
I kinda miss it too, although, there's this annoying trainer in the gts... cough... Snivy... cough...
Not to mention all of the pokemon that were named slurs that would have been easy trades to make but obviously no one would trade them since nicknames couldn’t be changed. GTS turned into a disaster area
Surprisingly, with the shut down of the official servers the gts for DS games has kinda recovered.
Sure, there's way fewer listings, but they are pretty in line with how i'd think the gts was intended.
People offering version exclusive mons for one another, people offering slightly rarer pokemon for trade and of cause all the trade evolutions.
Sure its not terribly active, but at least last i checked (maybe a yaer ago or so?), it was enough to be worth checking out.
If you've got Pokémon home you can do wonder trades in bulk on there. Still might run into hacked mons but it's far less likely because Home's restrictions apply to all Pokémon traded.
Don't forget the mons up for trade that crash your game if you look at their summary screen :(
I do see shinies with url names in casual battles and it’s sad because instead of actually hunting for it, they just get a hacked one from a website.
@@PiggyBonkers0309 I use them in raid battles sometimes
I doubt it ngl I think they got wonder traded it and thought it was cool
and decided to use it
I use a 6iv shiny iron hands in raids because I couldnt be bothered hunting for it
@@yommmrr I do too
@@PiggyBonkers0309 To be fair, training Pokémon is pretty tedious so some people generate Pokémon with perfect IVs and all that to skip the process. Helpful for Pokémon like Gholdengo that already has a tedious method of evolution behind it.
Though the best feeling comes from sweeping one of those teams. I did with my legit shiny Espathra, Speed Boost + Lumina Crash indeed went brrrr
Pretty sure the mienshao IS illegitimate since you can not nickname pokemon in a fateful encounter
I think you can? If they dont come with a nickname already, you can rename pokemon that arent originally yours nowadays
@@tefnutofhoney2832 not from fateful encounters im prettty sure
@@Ogerponyo id test this but im bad at naming pokemon. If you cant, thats stupid tbh.
@@tefnutofhoney2832 I think you can rename if the pokémon name is in another language. Although I'm not sure, since I don't nickname my pokémon.
@@Ogerponyo You’re absolutely right! You can’t rename mons if they’re event ones and or if they’re from a different region/language.
Why anyone would spend money on this is beyond me. PKHex has been around since forever. Better yet, just breed for it yourself. Idk why people want to play the main series competitive like Showdown. People who actually breed their competitive Pokémon deserve so much praise.
For pkhex you need to hack the switch. And breeding skarmory egg moves is a pain, it's easier to just buy it. I didn't even buy it shiny.
@@komi___ egg moves are easy now lol. Just gotta give it a mirror herb and remove slots for the desired amount of moves, and then put it in a picnic with a Pokémon that knows the egg moves for like 60 seconds and then exit the picnic. Your Pokémon will have the egg moves now
@@HookersAndCoke Neat, didn't know that.
@@komi___ The only limitation is that if a pokemon learns the egg move via the Mirror Herb, it needs to do so again if it forgets the move. basically, breeding an egg move will make sure it's permanently in the movelist...for that game, since home now saves moves per-game.
Why anyone would spend money on this is beyond me. Like even if you want to just hack in unobtainable shinies, PKHex has been around since forever and it’s free. If you play competitive, just breed for it yourself. Idk why you’d treat the main series like Showdown where you have perfectly curated teams in seconds. People who actually breed their competitive Pokémon deserve so much praise.
@@PkmnMasterNeb it's cuz you need a hacked switch to use PKHex on the new games
No, they don't because they are weirdos with nothing better to do in their lives. Breeding Pokemon for perfect stats is something you do when you are a loser with no life lol.
Don't let verlisify see this video, otherwise he'll call you a cheater/cheater endorser.
i kinda want that to see what happens lol
Verlisify the little dude. Kinda sad to see him ramble.
If pokemons competitive szene had less barrier to entry, most of the genning wouldnt happen.
I recently saw Verlisify for the first time and asked how, if genned Pokemon are freely accessible to everyone, is it considered cheating, and he basically said that anyone who doesn’t see how hacking a switch is cheating is considered an idiot.
I bought Scarlet in August 2024 and haven’t played Pokemon since alpha sapphire, so can anyone explain how acquiring a genned Pokemon leads to your switch being hacked please?
Thank you to everyone who takes the time to read and respond to this question. I genuinely don’t know much about all this stuff.
@@christopherlarson7579 If by genned pokemon you mean generated there isn't any way for your switch to get hacked [even if they edited the code of the genned pokemon to somehow be malicious because of the hack check systems in place!
@@christopherlarson7579 It doesn’t result in your switch getting banned at all. The only way that a switch can get banned is if you mod the hardware itself, such as by jailbreaking it. Anyone who says that a genned Pokémon can get your switch banned is just an idiot (aka Verlisify lol). Genned Pokémon can get you banned from official tournaments if they are genned with bad data, but if they are identical in every way to a legitimate Pokémon, nothing will happen and you can use them freely.
I remember getting a Pokémon generator software when Nintendo DS games where popular. You build your Pokémon and it generated an Action Replay code you can use to get your Pokémon and as many as you want. It was pretty rad. I wish I could use those on modern consoles.
Can’t you transfer it to the switch if you also have a 3DS? Correct me if I’m wrong
@@sfogliatelle278transfering them doesn't work since pokemon bank/poketransporter don't recognize genned mons as legit in the older games.
18:30 the problem is really that you can't stop the cycle, because they can always just hack more pokemon in. I just use surprise trade with breeding rejects, and steal the item from any hacked shinies, before hucking that pokeball into the sea as far as I can possibly throw it.
Imo I don't care about genned Pokémon. When I receive one, I just let them in my box for collection purporses.
Though I would never buy one in real life, I love to have many variants and shinies on my collection.
why would anyone pay for these services when there are sites and services that let you trade any mon you want to yourself for free, even 'legit' clones of events or entirely fabricated ones?
@@unspokentable142 what sites lolol
My son's game is FULL of these. All of his Pokemon are level 100 hacked shinies with a website for a name. He loves them. He's not buying them, he's got them from Surprise Trade, so I'm not going to make him release them. I just don't get it. Then again, I think if this were a thing when I was 9, I definitely would. I know I used Action Replay cheats to get 20 shiny Lugia in grass patches when I was around his age.
I appreciate the free ability patch, but to the shredder they go.
Traced to sword and shield? Sir, this was traced allll the way back to the XY Wondertrade days
Yeah, and the 3DS had an exploit that let people generate them pretty much at will
This is why I stopped doing Surprise Trades. Imagine trading away your breedjects and then you get a URLmon. I'd be funing and I just instantly released them.
I just take the item and send it back into the surprise trade
@@slyfox7452 Genned Items are also illegitimate/illegal.
Man thank god nobody's gonna realistically be using hacked mons, especially tournament goers.@@mr.oshawottryana.m.1785
@mr.oshawottryana.m.1785 soo my 15 master balls are illegal?
@@Arcaze1 Yes.
I don't really see the problem with genned Pokemon, as long as they are legal (no illegal moves or abilities). It saves so much time and it gives you the same result as when you waste time breeding. I don't think they should be banned at all. I use them in competitive all the time after all.
true like if the moves came with the mons whats the problem? there is no advantage since its all learned moves I don't understand why its bad... You can spend more time practicing with the team than breeding for specific things. People just want to be difficult and don't like saving time I guess
What’s funny is I’ve been getting these Pokémon since 2017 not just sword and shield but in Pokémon sun. I’ve done well over 1000 wonder trades and about 10% have been hacked shinys.
I think its important to understand that all competitive players have "fake" pokemon. Just not from those sites. "Fake" pokemon have gotten so good its nearly impossible to see a difference to a real one. But again people who get those have their own sources they do not share
Yeah, my shiny arcanine is really cool right? Dunno why I named it that though, don’t ask.
Never pay for genning Bots. If you really want genned mons, there are a Lot of completely free ones.
I have Purchased 2 Illegal Pokemon back on 3DS era in ORAS on Ebay. It was a Shiny Ponyta and Shiny Kyogre. I felt weird about it after I learned Kyogre was shiny locked and was confirmed they were illegally Genned. The third Pokemon I officially shiny Bred for was Ponyta to make up for that mistake in my life. I am now a casual Shiny Hunter and waste hours upon hours of my time obtaining a different coloured model.
And now you can do the Shiny Ponyta quest in Legends Arceus, and as long as you don't turn it in to complete the quest, you can reload the area for unlimited shiny Ponytas legitimately 😅
@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli I didn't know at the time it was infinite
I turned it in long ago 😆
I got Ponyta Community Day from GO too, so got a few in different games
Reminds me of when I decided to look into a youtube/twitch channel that trades people duped Pokémon on streams as well as through discord. I never ended up doing anything with the information I gathered after all my editing though originally I was planning on working on a video since the information went deeper than I expected.
Edit: Now that I'm reflecting on it since I have been inactive for a while I think I'm going to re-edit the video and see what I can do with the footage since after looking back at it the concept was very interesting and I had a well structured intro. Thanks for the inspiration to be motivated again!
First time viewer here.
I remember the DS/3DS days where up to gen 5 to 7 every trade felt natural and like real, also nice emote smileys hoodie design for your sprite icon.
A lot of people say my shiny Pokemon on my competitive team are hacked Granted the Mimikyu and Dusk Mane Necrozma (Necrozma half) are, but my CInccino was traded to me by a friend in a Union Circle, and my Shiny Eternatus is from the GameStop distribution.
I missed the gamestop shiny eternatus distribution and I'm still mad about it lol
In my four days of owning a copy of Shield, I didn't finish the game until day 2, since I used day one to shiny hunt a cinderace (shiny japan ditto method). I used the wonder trade with like, the 4 whole pages I had of scorbunnies I had. I had a lot of trades, the only actual legit shiny I got from it was a Dubwool, but the non legit ones...
I essentially mugged them of their held item and sent them to the Inceneration box
What is wrong with having the hacked Pokémon? Like they don’t seem overpowered but even if you don’t use it for champion fighting, what’s wrong with them if you just get it from a trade? Like it’s just a shiny Pokémon you randomly got
With some of these prices, people would be better off just doing the hacking themselves.
I have like 100 shineys from wonder trades and I love it. We have a real life team rocket an I love it I don't pay for any but I respect it
These were still up and running on USUM when I bought my 3ds 2 years ago. Damn, that's annoying.
In USUM, I was once traded a Shiny Victini only to find out years later the pokemon was shiny locked... So I have an illegal pokemon 😭
14:32 The current price of a potion in scarlet and violet is 200 Pokedollars, assuming that the pokedollar is equivalent to the japanese yen, 1.99 USD is equal to 298 pokedollars as of writing, that is almost 100 pokedollars more than a normal potion, giant rip off
I wont say no to a foreign ditto which was blatantly hacked, its just more convenient to get it immediately compared to wonder trading for a legit foreign ditto for hours upon hours. Doesnt mean im happy about it, the implications of its existence honestly speaks more about GAME FREAK's incompetence than these jokers giving me the keys to an easier shiny hisui Zorua to advertise to the same kids who have learned to ignore advertising over the past decade shoving the stuff down their throats.
I've used pokemon home's mobile version to find language specific mons. As well as looking for them in discord servers I'm in.
I've also got friends from other countries rhat I can easily get opposite language pokemon from.
So it's not too difficult so to speak.
But yeah if you haven't tried those methods, I'd recommend that. That way you don't have to wonder trade specifically
Just so you know having a shiny parent when breeding hasnt had any effect on the odds since like gen 2
I release the Pokémon and just take the master balls because I can’t say no to free master balls lol
I like how this video essentially doubles as admitting to buying drugs while simultaneously exposing the dealers.
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A solution should making pokemon showdown offcial or create a pokemon stadium, you still have to buy the game or dlc but can transfer a mon there or make a ''digital copy'' and there you could customize it, this would eliminate or at least drastically reduce these pirate sites
My sister and me have been doing a vs. Wonderlocke of Scarlet/Violet, and anytime we get a hacked mon, we just take the item's, release it, and go catch another mon from the same route/area.
The hacked shiny pokemon situation is terrible, but the only good thing is that you can essentially get more items from them.
Just take the held item off the hacked mon, then release it. Who could say no to free master balls.
Even worse via GTS, no items come with them when you get stuck with one of 'em. I hate how little info the GTS shows you to base your decision on if a trade for a pokemon (shiny or not) is safe to go through with. Like, let the person see the origin info and OT name. But noooooooooooo, the app doesn't want to help you avoid genned Pokemon.
@@ReinMixTape it was much worse during the 3ds era.
@@ConnorGarrett I missed that, only having got two 3DS consoles after March 2024 to play the Alola series pokemon games.
The worst genned pokemon I've ended up via pokemon home GTS was a one with a trainer ID of 00000 and capture year of 2050. It's like the GTS doesn't even bother to check basic info for validity.
@ReinMixTape you missed a bit. But to summarise. Somehow, people ( probably hackers) were able to deposit pokemon with really offensive nicknames. I'm not gonna say what names, but all I'll say is that one of them was a very bad word that rhymes with a character from winnie the pooh.
Bro I used to sell Pokemon and items on ebay. You have no idea what people will pay/do for Masterballs
1:55 The photo with the fighting tera type shiny Haxorus is me! My first ever shiny received in a tera raid and was super excited! Until of course along came with it a suspicious amount of herba mystica from the raid. This prompted me to post that screenshot on my Reddit, confirming my suspicions. A shame really but a shiny and herba mystica nonetheless🤷♀️
@@YoursTruly007 wait, I've never played the newer switch games, how could you get a hacked pokemon through a raid? Aren't they similar to like, wild spawns but in a cave??
@absolutemaniac7368 I believe they host them under account names from discords etc and if you join them they are always shiny. I found it to be more prolific and easier to spot with the sword and shield raids. I have no idea how they actually do it lol but I was farming for fighting tera shards that day and just wasn’t paying attention to what I joined and yeah🤷🏻♀️
I believe they host them under account names from discords and stuff as shown in this video. I found it to be more obvious and prolific in the sword and shield games. I have no idea how they do it so that the Pokémon are always shiny, perfect IV’s etc but that particular day I was farming fighting tera shards and just didn’t pay attention to what raid I had joined lol🤷🏻♀️😅
@YoursTruly007 that's so odd.... I do wonder how they get away with smth like that
Lately I hate these sites even more, because they have taken to send trade evo pokemon, so you have to sit there and watch them evolve, wasting your time.
It js hilarious I was actually one of the people who originally came up with Machamps Gym it originally was meant to be a way for people who get scammed out of their pokemon to get replacements there was no name or weird OT’s its a shame how it went once the owner Tommy decided he wanted to run it more money based he ended up kicking all of the original
Mod staff and then hired all new people just know it is not a money laundering scheme just a shitty guy making money off of people if you have questions about it let me know. I know the original years worth of history
You know it's bad when I have to use cheating hardware to UN-HACK a name so that I can name the pokemon something that isn't a scam website, basically hacking to counteract hacking.
8:18 I never understood why people used these services, especially now knowing the prices. It’s beyond easy to get shinies at this point, and if you really need to gen something it’s even easier to do it yourself.
Would be nice if you could get version exclusives or shiny legendaries legitimately. I want to shiny hunt Iron Moth but I’m not buying Violet and completing the dex AGAIN.
might have to trade with someone but they might have it hacked lol
How to help this situation.
Make a box named FLIPPING TRASH.
Put all your hacked pokemon in it.
Show your friend saying there actually real and tell him you have his favorite shiny
Release it in front of him
If this process works you will know if he yells at you and punts you to the moon
The worst part about this is gamefreaks reasoning for changing how home works. I freaking lose egg moves because game freak makes competitive too time consuming.
I don't even suprise trade anymore due to these hacked pokemon flooding the suprise trade system.
There's free places for all of this... it's insane that so many people are actually paying for this crap.
Also, my stance on those raid dens is that they're within the confines of the game, so it's harmless to join and catch one.
you typed in adamant nature in the google form and are complaining it wasnt a mild nature????
I know a lot of people immediately release these hacked Pokemon, but I generally keep them around because I don't do competitive anyway. Something something, circumstances of one's birth, something something. They just kinda chill out, maybe do farm work an Legends Arceus
If there was a way to report players, I would report the website named Pokémon. I see people bring them in to Raids where they aren't even super effective, and often that sabotages the raid for everyone else. Those players are a menace, but there's nothing I can do to even screen them before starting a raid.
wth!!! you should not be allowed to report someone just because they dont sweat like you, leave the kids alone
@@mobious01 it IS annoying to lose a raid for the 50th time in a row due to someone bringing a bad hacked pokemon.
And if a system like that were to be put in place nothing would likely come of it seeing the millions upon millions of players anyways lol.
@@Dovahnoredrawslol most of the hacked pokemon perform fine, they just have no fking clue how to use it
@@animeloveer97 The amount of times I've seen hacked and not hacked Cinderace being brought to a raid and immediately dying 20 times in a row makes me think that some pokemon are just not good for raiding whether you know how to use them or not
What you described is somehow actually worse than those people who just spam their legendaries or their belly drum sweepers.
What is your favorite Pokémon game that you got a single hacked Pokémon in mine is sun and moon
I see hacked pokemon as harmless as long as you arent fighting with them against real people. Whats the harm in keeping them if theyre only for your entertainment and no one else sees them?
As soon as someone Sees them you're spamming an ad. Doesn't necessarily have to be in a fight against someone
I do not have the patience for shiny hunting and honestly sometimes want the genned Pokemon for a joke. They're for my own personal fun. Never pay more than free for genned Pokemon. It's possible to find places where you might have to wait in line, but you will get whatever mon you want for free.
I really don’t understand what’s so wrong about ppl genning pokemon. Ppl charging money for it is the real issue.
People forcing them onto others as a spam ad is annoying
The biggest scam is that the truck didn't have a Mew underneath it.
If the mons have a special Pokeball; I keep them for breeding legitimate pairs then release them permanently.
If it's caught in a regular ball; they get Thanos Snapped immediately.
I’d love if someone could talk about the old Pokémon GTS DNS thing. Where you would put in a DNS code and when you logged onto the gts you’d receive a seemingly random Pokémon, it was a corner stone of my early Pokémon years but no one seems to ever mention it and no one has ever done an “explained” style video on it (that I’ve found)
Not to be that guy but
15:23
“Adamant nature”
Tbh, I like getting genned shiny mons. I either keep them for myself if they can’t breed and therefore can’t taint any eggs, or I delete them.
thank you for your effort on researching this!! its always disappointing when you actually have to "support"/give money to these groups just for research. and the fact that you paid money and they gave you Only the pokémon and not all the other specifics u provided 🤦 many layers to being an annoying scam.
also unrelated; how did you make your text all pixely on your screen?
This is not self promotion but just common sense but common sense really. Many of these sites have transaction like $15 custom pokemon trades yet there are somewhat free ways to get ANY pokemon. So yeah its pretty much a scam there are way better ways to do this, but overall dont ruined your experince playing pokemon just to wonder trade or pay these scam sites for life. Play for fun, battle for awhile, delete any scam pokemon you get (or secretly breed them idk if thats wrong), and enjoy playing pokemon.
I learned how to gen pokemon my self cause i was sick of the website nicknames and ot from wonder trading so after learning how this was done, i got a second switch, and changed the names on the ot and nickname and send it back out like everyone else does. now all i do is have max herbas and give myself shiny sandwiches to shiny hunt legit lol. if someone asks me to make them a pokemon i refuse cause im not like that.
I was in high school during the XY/ORAS era. A friend and I started a little business where we bred Pokemon and EV trained them. All legal, no hacking or cloning. Between the two of us we had several games from Gen 3 to Gen 6 to get specific moves, Dreamworld Pokemon and Pokemon in Johto Balls. And it wasn't that expensive considering the planning we put into it but we couldn't compete with the hacked Pokemon market, especially on Facebook marketplace people just wouldn't pay what we were asking when they could get a hacked one for much cheaper. We figured it wasn't gonna work and quit after a few months. 😢
This was going on in X and Y too. Aka since Wondertrade started. Not sure why you say it started in Sword and Shield.
Team Rocket went from a organization stealing Pokémon and keeping them to now becoming Pokémon Amazon to everyone. They even do discounts to increase cash flow bruv.
I just take the free master ball and release it.
Tbh I feel like these sights wouldn’t be that much of a problem if they’d stop shiny locking legendary Pokemon
I got a ton of fake hacked Pokémon all the way back in sun and moon before the ultras came out which really made me hate the fact you can’t change nicknames
I understand why people hacked in previous games, where grinding without glitches and proper timing would take weeks, but I’m pretty sure one run through SV’s base game festival tournament with an amulet coin gives you enough money for a full set of IVs of bottle caps. Takes a bit longer if you want a certain attack or speed IV, but that is literally it. Mapped it all out, it’s like 140,000 pokebucks to go from a Pokémon with ideal moves and nothing else to a perfect nature and IVs, not to mention the amount of EV items, TRs, and caps you can farm from event raids
My brother got a cosmog from one of these sites back in 2016
I was just wondering about this topic too, amazing video!
Those aren't hacked, they are genned. They are only hacked if they have illegal movesets, stats and abilities.
Nah, cut this doublespeak crap.
Hacked is hacked, and genned pokemon should absolutely be considered hacked and a form of cheating. Quit revising language to justify your laziness.
@RenSako nope
Nothing is legit about getting a shiny with maxed IVs right of the bat. It's all BS and so is anyone defending it.
@lolschrauber it's possible to breed a perfect IV shiny. And genned are still legit, even the Pokémon company said so....
@@RJuttner20 So you're a cheater and proud of it. Got it.
The fuck is the point of playing games if you skip the actual game? You're here commenting trying to justify cheating on RUclips so I know you've got time to put in the work, you're just a lazy ass who doesn't want to but still wants a seat at the table of the people actually working to get good and earn their shit.
I mean, you can cheat all you want but don't whine when you can't go online in your game anymore. You did it to yourself by being an entitled, spoiled brat with no work ethic who wanted to lazily cut corners.
I kinda understood why people would hack mons in older games, I never did breeding for Ivs and what not. But with the bottle cap training, herbs, ease of access to ability capsules and even ability patches now. I really see no excuse. It doesn't take long to actually work for the pokemon you want to use, and getting the pokemon you are using and training them has ALWAYS been part of earning the win.
I will willingly admit I got a ditto from machamps 2 years ago just to comment on how bad the price gouging is now. I paid 5 bucks for that ditto with everything listed in this vid included, even my OT.
I love genning pokemon! As someone who did the IV breeding and EV training process as far back as FRLG, I'm tired of training Pokemon and just don't have the time to train every Pokemon I want to use. I won't say the service I use, but they're out there and don't all require you to pay or use terrible OTs.
i can give some insight to this but as someone who did genning for bragging rights *somewhat but basically free* its a scam to be paying $10 usd for a pokemon *not saying i would now bc i dont own a switch* i would 100% charge like a $1 for any genning but also i was in a free server that did bot genning and not the worst thing ever and best of all it was free *not going to promote their discord tho* so yee basic summary of this message is its complete utter bs thats it cost $10 usd for these sites that only really take 5-10 mins to actually gen it in
well up to the people to do their research, honestly i don't blame them if i had a way to make easy money i would do it as well
Lmao I cant imagine bragging to ANYONE that I make fake pokemon. I'd feel so goofy.
@@TheReZisTLust ah yes they are "fake" def can't put them into pokemon home or trade them online and yk god forbid they could be used competitively
@@NotLexianthey would be be disqualified
God I remember catching (yes catching not actually breeding) some competitive Pokemon in Scarlet just for this one single gym challenge at the blue berry academy and I had honestly put so much effort in finding a damn piplup with the right nature and lemme tell you it was so satisfying to beat that challenge with the caught Pokemon. I like those surprise trade, I kept the majority of those shinies because I feel like I just want shines in my box and kids getting those free shinies can problaby be feel happy too