F1 WEBBER VETTEL BATTLE MALAYSIA 2013 [HD]
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2013
- Mark and Sebastien's controversial battle in Malaysia 2013, with post race footage aswell. Mark was reassured twice during the grandprix there would be no challenge from Vettel. Despite this, Vettel came at him anyway. An epic battle ensued with Vettel coming out on top.
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Back in the good old days when Seb was a proper villain and hadn't become universally likeable yet
And he was also much better.
He was a villain on the track but he was a gud guy off-track
Anyone who is dominating is a villian in the eyes of F1 fans
RB Seb is the reason Im watching F1. I used to root for him everytime.
@@Firebolt1729 if only kimi was dominating, would you suppport alonso?
" Multi 21 seb, multi 21 "
* seb proceeds to drink water aggressively *👌👌👌👌
what did he mean by that I don't get it
@@animenon5247 multi 21 was the car 1 behind the car 2 which was webber and vettel didn’t respect that so that’s why Webber was mad at him
@@iem6747 oooh makes sense
@@animenon5247 mercedes doesn't have a Multi 21. Only a Multi 12 or even Multi 1.
@@iem6747
I still don't get it. What does multi mean in that context?
If anyone asks why I hate team orders, just listen to the commentators. They were having a blast watching this, as were a massive majority of fans. This was one of the best battles of the 2010s, and to think team orders could’ve ruined it.
Tell that to some of these "fans", even today they still seem to hold Multi 21 against Vettel for some reason
@@Firebolt1729 i mean. They aint wrong.
Team orders are fantastic- you don’t race your team mate, and potentially score. Zero points with a collision. It’s a great thing you are not a team principle. Youd be woeful
Every time race circumstances brought Rosberg and Hamilton near each other, you'd be on edge. I know teams have to look out for the constructor's, but rebellious drivers make it all the more interesting.
@@kufgeo 🤦♂️ what does the team gain ?
"I was racing him, I was faster, I passed him, I won" was the best quote I've ever heard from Seb when he said this later after the race.
and an absolutely true one. Also, it's not like this was the last race in the calender, it was at the start of the season and he wanted all the points he could get just like every driver
@@luckylukeskywalker except you listen to your team
Vettel is literally the only driver who is hated for not listening to team orders
Micheal schumaker too...austria 2002?
It’s was was the slanted finger that did it.
Yeah well the slowbastian fanboy cult was crying everytime Webber didn't completely give way to slowbastian, but obviously the biggest clown in f1 (slowbastian) can do whatever he wants 😂😂😂😂 well logic was never something the slowbastian fanboys used 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@hydropicaltea8534 I seem to have found Tropical Tree's 2nd account
@@Firebolt1729 he just wants to be as infamous as tree, thats it.
If Netflix had been around in 2013, Red Bull would have made them a lot money on that day
Bro they gonna make an awful lot of money this year bro.
@@gots0359 yep especially om this last race in abu dhabi. Hamilton vs verstappen
Same with the drama with merc with Hamilton and rosberg
Once the summer break is over team orders make sense. This was the second race of the year, you let them race.
No you don't not when the team put Webber on slow tyres hence being the reason they told seb to stay behind, he had an unfair advantage
@@tdawg999 You are talking nonsense, Webber tyres were options and they were faster, both had the same engine mode, Seb had the pole position he led the 1st lap but they played strategy against him. This was SV's race to lose and he won it.
Losers like Webber always make excuses.
@@sam-nariman6236 lmao Mark was on the orange Hard tyres. The slowest tyres back then.
@@tdawg999 why did they actually put him on the harder compound?
The argument portrayed by RB was that this race does a lot of work on the engine and so they felt they needed to preserve the 1-2. It was more of a RB being unable to manage Vettel.
Mercedes also incorporated team orders and were more successful because they had more control of their drivers
Newey was looking at Seb like "Dude ... you guys gotta be careful with my cars"
"I WAS RACING"
"I WAS FASTER"
"I PASSED HIM"
"I WON"
villan seb 😈
Proper Seb❤️
Yeah, of course you're going to be faster when your team mate has been told to turn down the engine and coast. Absolutely dog act from Vettel.
@@LukeVesty Cry me a river. They are racers. everyone would have done the same. EVERYONE
@@TheMaroth if you call racing sneaking up on a team mate who has their engine turned down then sure.
@@TheMaroth veri big bullshit.
Vettel got pissed after this and went on to win 12 more races and shattered Mark.... He showed why he overtook him in this race.... I mean mark really messed him up in 2012 brasil by squeezing him hard in lap one mind you he was in a title fight with Fernando
Webber himself was squeezed out wide by another driver in Brazil...if your team tells you to do something it, you do it
@@allthekingshorses7178
"Webber himself was squeezed out wide by another driver in Brazil"
-If your teammate is in contention for the WC, you have to show awareness, Mark didn't!
"if your team tells you to do something it, you do it"
-Exactly what Webber REFUSED to do at Silverstone in 2011!
@@allthekingshorses7178
Btw, funny how people always complain about team orders, except when it's given to a dominant driver!
@@allthekingshorses7178 uh no that totally depends on the contractual standards you are not a slave to the team.
Mark Webber was such a sore loser lol
Man this track was amazing. I wish they would bring it back. I know it's nearly impossible, but the track delivered nearly 90% of the time.
Malaysia not have money
@@raymon4712 you right, we dont have money 😂 i never got a chance to see F1 race in sepang. but luckily i got to see two motogp race in 2016 and 2017.
Yeah, I miss it. Very satisfying to drive on in the games.
The main straight is stupidly wide
Monaco doesn't have to pay sh!t while they have enough money but a crapshoot track.
Malaysia has to pay, while they don't have the money but a great track.
Shows what the focus of this "sport" is.
“I was racing, I was faster, I passed him, I won.”
Haha yes Webber should have Been faster, then he would have won haha, pretty fucking simplex concept
@@bob6537 exactly the only person who looks like an idiot now is Webber
@@user-ww9pd2rz4e and the team orders
@@verstappen9937 couldn't agree more with you
Spoken like a true German.
"i was faster, i passed him, i won"
BWOAH
The hypocrisy behind this never fails to amuse me. Webber disobeyed team orders in Silverstone 2011 and Vettel let Webber past in Brazil 2011, because he had a gearbox issue and he wanted the best possible result for the team. Webber also almost cost Vettel the championship by squeezing him at Brazil in 2012. No one batted any eye at all this. F1 fans always complain about team orders, yet bashed Vettel for not following them.
As a Vettel fan. Spot on.
Yeah, they really hated Seb back then
@@woodenhoe They do the same with Lewis now, ready to hate on him for every thing he does
After the 2010 season what did you expect? RB fucked up his chance to get the championship.
@@Firebolt1729 I agree with you, they hate Lewis for no logical reason
"I'm standing in the middle so enjoying it a little bit more" ☠️ lmao
He just add more salt to Mark 😂
Who is there after Sebastian Vettel announced his retire from F1 after season 2022 ?
Yh what a shame, ferrari really messed him up, with not helping him out.
Yh ... Miss this ruthless Vettel ❤️
It's hard to be here before he announced it.
Controversial this may be but I miss this version of Sebastian. I miss his ruthlessness, his devastating speed and everything else that made him a 4 time champion at the start of the decade. So what if people didn’t like him back then? Your not in sport to be liked by everyone. In my eyes he’s gone too soft these last few years
Exactly.
He's not gone soft, he's just exposed in a slower car.
@@TheRafaelBond
If you look at the stats he was the driver with the most overtakes in this entire season
You need to switch sports if you are doubting the talent of a 4× world champion who beat alonso twice in the process too
Of course this era was great, he is mostly likeable now because of the things he does off-track. He is still the same driver but just doesn't have a fast car, the overtake award confirms that. If Aston is as good as they predict for next year then we will see this again
@@stardust4001 well alonso is in a way worse car but i cant deny hes very talented
Brazil 2012 start, explains Seb's actions, I'm just glad people can see it
Jesus christ it's a miracle that the car of Seb was not damaged worse losing the WCC, without Webber forcing him in it wouldn't have happened
This is when seb was just an Animal on track. He had that senna mentality were nothing short of winning was good enough. I was always a seb fan but this was when he was proper hated but it seemed to fuel him. His record of 15 poles in one season (2011) is a record that will be very very hard to beat.
well.
Mark shouldve reflected on his own action in silverstone 2011 & brazil 2012. And the salty comment about "protection", well Seb has been beating you from the start of his career, outperforming you since he was driving Toro Rosso car
Brazil 2012??? Wtf?
@@panoseconomou6782 yeah wtf with webber's attitude in brazil 2012? Team player much?
Yeah Mark was always salty cause he just wasn't as quick as Seb
Nice musical taste man
how was he outperforming him in the toro rosso?
I miss this Sebastian😢 Something happened when he changed teams to Ferrari in 2015. I think it’s mostly maturity
mmm I think seb changed after baku 2017.
before that race seb had more ego. And i loved that
@@rodrigoescobar8137 He was well into his Ferrari days then. What makes u say then?
No, Ferrari is just ass.
The team and the brand. Horrible Team, was successful at the early 2000s solely because of Schumachers leadership.
I'm watching this after Jeddah 2021, and you know what? I think I'm just about done watching F1 for today!
Formal 1
Likewise Mate :)
didn't mark disobey team orders before this and almost cost seb a championship?
Yup 2012
Brazil 2012, if I remember correctly I think I heard vettel was still mad about it and that was why he did it
He didn't disobey team orders but made Vettel's life hard ar the beginning.
Yes. An average driver that got far too many years in a race winning car.
@@kb5509 average driver that was putting jaguars and Williams on the front row.
I think this was the only podium of all 3 guys, where not anybody is laughing or in cheering mood. Hamilton as well as he only stays in front of Rosberg because of team order.
Sebs profuse drinking gets me every time 😂
Good to see Hamilton back on the podium once more. He looks promising in that Merc. I wonder what the future will bring
6 World championships it brought is seems ;) but not quite 7 eeeek...
Maybe break Schumacher's records... Nah it will be Vettel
Trust me, you don't want to head down that path.......
@@regmanray I know, too many people looking for a fight nowadays, ill keep my neck clean from the ragers hahahaha
@@benjamincody7264 think u got ur numbers wrong there mate... Hamilton won 7 WC's and missed out on his 8th this season.
Christian Horner said that this was 100% payback for 2012 Brazilian GP which was only 2 races ago. I can absolutely understand Seb’s frustration and have no problem with him disobeying team orders. You don’t squeeze your teammate to the wall at the start of his fucking championship race.
if webber thought vettel was a bad teammate in this race, he would have had a so much "better" experience with mad max
Max would drive him CRAZY
Aside from the team order it was clean hard racing in the last few laps. Vettel didn't race dirty in any way. Clean and just faster
except he defied team orders and didn't turn his engine down while Webber did.
Superior drivers, superior team, superior sound, superior track. Just brilliant
That was unexpected clean driving honestly.
Totally different from today.
Those cars were agile. Much more pleasant to watch and probably drive.
Seriously though... why is Jeddah on the F1 calendar and Sepang is not?
FANS WANT GOOD ON TRACK FIGHTS!
maintaining an event circuit not easy bro. Who knew... just wait whether Sepang will be considered again
MONEY TALKS
Money
This aged horrendously 💀
Money
Australian drivers have always been considered number 2 by Red Bull Racing.
It's not a discriminative thing, it's just circumstances.. it was the second race of the season, should've let em race even though Webber has never outperformed Vettel..
Yeah Ricciardo was the number 2 in 2015-2017
Probably the most depressing 1-2 in the history of F1
Austria 2002?
After hearing Croft & Brundle’s commentary in this one, I swear they did not even know that “Multi 21” was put in place. 🤦🏻♂️ This is why I preferred Ben Edwards & David Coulthard because they knew what was going on & reacted the way I figured they would’ve.
Netflix would've made a killing if DTS was back then
Bbc reviews existed back then which are way better than shitty DTS.
I wish they still had the blue room, I disagree with the way liberty media has gone about the new podium configurations. miss seeing the drivers reactions "behind the scenes" before the podium.
Ah I see the RUclips algorithm has brought all of us here
7:28 that damn look, man...that GODDAMN LOOK!😬😁
Idk why but webber is one of the most chill second drivers, never misses a chance of criticising the team.
I miss this track in the schedule, hope it's coming back one day
Great circuit with couples of overtaking turn, hope they will race here in the future.
Even seb beat his teamate with same car but with older tyres and they still say: he have a good car
Vettel is just most dominant driver ever. Like shaq in his prime
Why didn't he beat Leclerc?
One of the best duels in motorsport
Webber wasn't angry at him after the race, he looked more like a disappointed older brother
Coz Seb Was Right.
The team would have favoured the Faster Vettel instead of Slow Webber . Same as Mercedes Benz do with Lewis the Second Half of This Year 🤷
When Seb matched Sir Jackie with 27 victories. Max did the same last Sunday.
Watching at this time I never would've thought I'd love Seb as much as I do now!
I miss the old Vettel...fast, uncompromising and prepared to be disliked in order to win
This is the Seb I remember and I want it back.
Да были времена, это уже современная классика.
I still don't get the drama which people made about this scene, i mean why shouldn't seb overtake mark if he was faster?
@@prodevstips6936 i read somewhere that Mark didn't actually turn his engine down... so they were in almost the same positions
Because drivers alone never win races, and if your team asks to do something, you have to stick with it.
mark was told seb wouldnt try for an overtake so slowed down, if he was told vettel was still going to challenge then he wouldnt have stopped and wouldnt have turned his engine down
There was a team agreement that they would not race eachother at the end, because it creates a risk of a collision/tire wear and a major loss of points. Mark followed the agreement and turned his engine down, or at least that's what he claims. Seb then overtook him. Assuming Mark is telling the truth that he disengaged to follow team orders, the sneak attack by Seb is clearly unfair.
@@randywatson341 Mark pitted on lap 43 and ahead into turn 1 by 0.2sec. Lap 44 seb set fastest lap of the entire race. But Mark is still ahead which means he matched sebs time on a slower tire. By what logic did he turn down the engine? If so, Vette l would have breezed past him on the back straight into last corner. No seb passes him on lap 45 turn 7. Mark is still gets DRS gap on lap 46 basically matching him. Vettel then just pulled away by being fast. Slow mark gave up and turned his engine down and cried infront of media. Doesn't matter what the team orders are. You don't give away your first win of the season to potential championship rival
The algorithm has United us once again.
People back then hated Vettel for this, which is odd enough considering the fact that it was team orders in the second race of the year. Others in the comments also mentioned the things Mark did just the year prior.
But most always forget one thing. For the drivers its all about the points. And prom Vettels pov what would you rather have: Getting first place and having a 9 point advantage over the Kimi who won in the first race or only having two points more than Kimi while your teammate has the exact same amount of points?
man i miss the podium interviews
The way I see it, Redbull made Vettel loose the magic: they tried to keep him under the leash.
If he was like the younger self in ferrari, he might had a chance to win
Weber: "Multi 21 Seb, Multi 21"
Vettel: *gluglugluglugluglu...*
Webber: Multi 21 Seb
Vettel: *DRINKS WATER AGGRESIVELY*
"We turned the engines down...." and they were still over half a lap away from Rosberg and Hamilton
Can’t believe that’s 10 years ago !!!
Would love to meet some Grand Prix drivers and Mark Webber
Multi 2-1 Seb 2-1
NO Multi 12
@@NeelkanthEarthmovers Okay,thanks for the correction 😉
@@annurdesnozasyarif Nope you were right, Multi 21
@@fairrodthecapacitor thanks,for the correction. Have a nice day :)
Enormous class difference
I wish we could have seen the new cars in anger in Sepang. No doubt the racing will be great.
What an amazing competition for first place 😂
Seb, Lewis and Mark in the cool down room looks very serious hostile, but on the podium celebration and interview, they regain themselves. Good old days
The pinnacle of F1
can anyone bring back this seb?
Put him in a better car.
@@vandalsgarage yep nothing more to say
And give him a team that supports him all the way.
@@2jzandys444 aston martin supports him
@@csaklaci201 I was referring to Ferrari mostly
„multi 21 seb, multi 21!“
2007 - Last race was Realy good one!!!
This is also the difference between winning the world championship four times and never winning it
Sepang is one of the best track designed for moder day F1. Please bring Sepang back in calendar
All those speeches about high ground make me think the Red Bulls incarnated the Rule of the Two and all of a sudden Seb unleashed the Darth Vettel in him and chose that moment to overcome his "master".
This and the 2019 Canadian GP podium were perhaps two of the most miserable in F1 history - On both occasions, no driver was happy.
5:52 “hey get out my face” 😂
Back in the days when F1 was on Channel One 😍
Legend
I think no one realized hamilton and rosberg were also fighting for 3rd position 😂
Hamilton at 05:52 “get out of my face”
To whom he is saying this?
Maybe the cameraman
Just looking back on this to see how much the cool down rooms have changed in the last 10 years. Massive screens everywhere these days rather than a piddly little LG TV.
Red Bull after race - MULTI 21 SEB
Mercedes after race and then next 3 years - No team orders, full rivalry
he became world champion later, so payed off to battle his teammate
He won the wdc by 100+points. Absolutely wouldn't have changed a thing if he had lost this race
Mark: multi 21 seb... yea..multi 21..😤
Seb: *gluk gluk gluk
good old days when seb was a proper villan
I miss these cooldown moments so much
Cooldown room back pretty much 😎
These kind of things were the start of Vettel Fall from heights
Forgot just how much Mark would call out other drivers willy nilly in his interviews. Name dropped Seb, Lewis, and Nando hahaah
It would be impossible to drive like this in todays 2021 car
10:16 who is the lady, with the short blond gray hair and the red shirt as well as black earrings, standing in front of Sir Jackie Stewart?!
She looks familiar, but i do not remember from where.
Webber’s mom?
She’s kimi raikkonen
It change me from 2021 battle.. a lot cleaner...
Great Overtake Seb 👍👍👍
old good times
Great battle. But the commentary by Hobo and Steve mattchet was much better. Miss those guys.
7:52 ,,the Best three drivers in the world" Alonso was playing golf
Kimi was having a shit
10th anniversary today.
Was this the race where Mark had a big lead, turned the engine down and started to coast and then Seb kept driving hard?
Can someone explain, why he couldnt overtake?
Why exactly would Seb not make a run at #1? Ridiculous to even suggest he should not fight for it... this is an individual sport.
Red Bull is a team, Red Bull OWNS the cars
Such much unfounded Webber hate, damn DTS RBR cult fans who've been here for like two days.
What does multi 21 mean?
was the DRS slower back then?
I feel for Webber
Team orders should be respected
Webber let him by a lot of times in 2012 and 2011