the Other Team is Too Good. Send in 50 Walking Nukes
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2023
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mikusch's buster code i stole to adapt for this
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old video title:
"brute forcing balance with 50 sentry busters: if red or blue is too good, send busters"
FAQ:
Q: How did you make that? What editing software do you use?
A: I use Adobe Photoshop, Premiere Pro & After Effects. Photoshop for image editing and thumbnails. Premiere Pro for compositing and After Effects for motion graphics (the fancy animations). 
Игры
what dumb plugin do i make next? 🤔
(friendly reminder 100 player tf2 server's back, if you still haven't heard: shounic.github.io/docs/100tf2 )
also i was a little conflicted about certain parts of this video, lmk if you think the video was good, bad etc :) thanks
Just multiply everyone's HP by 5.
Nice and simple.
more mvm robot related stuff
Can you make a player randomly saxton hale on losing team?
You know how in Starship Troopers every 10000th round in training is a live one to keep the soldiers sharp? Make every 10th attack a crit.
pls spawn sentry on engineers death
"If we spawn 50 giant, rapidly moving, kamikaze robots on one teams' side, they tend to win."
Tremendous, nobody could have expected this outcome.
Its fun though
sometimes science is just about getting the data even if you're 100 percent sure that the hypothesis will be correct
Its well deserved. I despise pub stompers and imbalanced teams. I cant even join weaker team like i could in quickplay to help. Meet your match was a cancerous change to tf2 and game still suffers for it.
But... they spawned on both sides, did they not?
@@Kacpa2 yup imagine how much tf2 would improve if they removed meet your match and just brought back quickplay, tf2 was never a competitive game and tf2 suffered for valve trying to force it on everyone
1:13
I have never felt more primal fear then when I heard "Sentry buster in the area" on a normal tf2 map repeated 50 times and the ominous beeping growing louder.
Everyone is having a fun time untill they hear that
Now I know how the average mvm sentry feels
*A SENTRY BUSTER HAS ENTERED THE AREA*
@@KC_Garciabeep boop beep boop
Sentry Buster Jumpscare
its not enough to kill the 50 billion engineers in the 2fort intel room
@no thanks
Any engiee In the Intel tool is useless and easy to kill
In theory, it's supposed to counter engis in MvM. But in reality anyone who has seen how they work more than twice can see they're more of an anti-afk tool, or an inconvenience, rather than what it's intended to do. They only become a problem if you have an M2-happy Pyro on your team.
@theotv5522
Outside of killing brain dead Engineers, Sentry Busters are designed to flush out a fortified location, aka forcing the Engineer to pack up his gun and move away, thus allowing the other bots the opportunity to push through that gap in the defense.
It's not the Buster that kill the Engineer, it's the 50 crit rockets flying toward him as he carry the Sentry that does it.
I always like it when people talk about sentry busters
I personally request that at any point with no warning in your server this plugin gets reenabled and then disabled the next round
I request that it's rare enough that people don't suspect it isn't a one time thing
Sadistic
imagine this on the 100 player server
I'd literally blow up the server in the process tho
@@sophiegrey9576don't you mean common enough?
When a team does too well nuke the map
Tactical nuke! Incoming!
@ who tf are u?
Edit: shut it oktoberfest!
Battlefield 4 hosters: write that down! write that down!
It basically goes "oh you are doing well? well you lose!"
The Battlefield 4 Conquest Large treatment
i love these experiments, its always like
a little offensive? red loses 98% of the time
a little defensive? blu loses 99% of the time
True lol
It shows just how well balanced tf2 is, on the whole. Although 50 sentry busters isn’t exactly ‘little’.
Yeah I think this shows how well balance TF2 is despite some flaws(i.e capture the flag being too defense friendly) so any change that one side is really going to have advantage.
@@starmaker75 more like it shows how if you make large, sudden changes without tweaks then it'll ruin the entire balance of the game
@@PururutExpect for Sniper; oddly removing Sniper just made both sides more aggressive gameplay wise.
"Oh yeah, they can take friendly teleporters."
they fucking *what*
2:24 i like how the other pyro tought that was over just for another sentry buster appear from the smoke
This really cracked me up when i saw it lmao
SIKE
I can hear the first note of Ultra Insitnct play in my head when that happened.
Didn't even give him time to process what happened.
comedy
This seems to be overcorrecting the situation. What if we had 49 sentry busters?
That's not the only way to balance it. What if one team spawned 50 and the other spawned 1?
both teams spawn 50 sentry busters. absolute clean slate. this idea has no flaws whatsoever
@@ValeBridgesfighting fire with fire, I like it!
@@mozarteanchaos if a team is doing too well, the map turns into a sentry buster at the same size as the map itself.
@@danolantern6030mmm yes gud
i think one or two busters is unironically a good idea, since even if they don't kill anyone they force a choke to break up
Perhaps it could depend on player count? every 7 players (per team) would provide 1 buster?
@@enderjed2523imagine the lag on 50v50
@@Aaa-vp6ug probability of 50 HIgh skill players being on a single team are odds as good as you winning the Lotto and then imediatelly getting struck by lightning.
@@andrehashimoto8056and then getting a god-run in Noita
@@kaden-sd6vb Every run can be turned into a god run if you're good
2:23 Had me rolling, just the way the second sentry buster comes charging in as the pyro contemplates his existence
I think this may have actually worked out if it hadn't spawned so many busters. Like, say, three or five, or even just one. At that point it's less about creating total chaos than creating some breathing room for the team to get back on their feet.
yea 50 is overkill, I like ur idea
Just one, but a bit more often. I'd say
Yeah 50 seems like overkill. I think like 5 at most would be fine.
But how is it breathing room when the issue of smoke on the objective exists?
If gives Attackers a free capture or push in most cases. Defenders are forced to flee.
While if you script is flipped it doesn't really help since Defense had their stuff set up and lost for this to happen.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 which is why the server should also use a mod that alters the explosion particle effects so that the smoke is less oppressive and doesn't linger forever
Potato MvM uses something like that on their servers
2:30
Legit scared me when that sentry buster just popped from the smoke b-lining it to the pyro
that pyro was shook
the spy at 2:55 definitely jumped from that
*Pyro reflecting on his friend's sudden unfortunate death*
Another sentry buster suddenly appears from the smoke to give him the same fate.
2:23
Pyro 1- (gets blown up by sentry buster 1 in spawn)
Pyro 2- (utterly baffled) “oh god sentry busters can enter your spawn”)
Sentry buster 2- *yes*
Better joke revolving around an already existing meme
WAIT SENTRY BUSTERS CAN ENTER THE SPAWN?!
always have been
(captures control point)
⚠️ *You have alerted the Sentry Buster horde* ⚠️
"we have come for your killstreak"
"GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY BASE"
Give this man a damn medal!@@robloxboxertblocked
*bodoop!*
"Lets go heavy, maybe the payload is made out of dalokohs"
I was not expecting the simple appearance of a red Sentry Buster to hurt my brain so much
Hi👋
"if a team is losing, have one of their non-afk players turn into saxton hale for a minute"
The image of a dozen sentry busters streaming into blu spawn at round start is hilarious.
2:22 this scene have the same energy When you killing a spy just to get backstabbed By the second spy
8:01 "This plugin is absolutely not meant for degroot keep, so we tried it"
crackhead thinking
and im here for it.
this was the funniest video. The absolute comedic timing at 2:20 with the pyros at spawn sent me dying man. Valve has to add this!!
surely the janitor at valve will help add this
I love how at 2:27 a sentry buster comes running out of the smoke as the pyro is staring in confusion at what happened to his pyro friend as it cuts away before blowing up to another part of the video
*The first key of ui goku*
With Solarlight's latest video showing how people can change explosion effects, I'm surprised nobody thought of changing the sentry buster explosion to something less distracting
@ hush
Edit: for context i replied to a now-deleted bot comment asking for subs
Nobody said they haven't.
I wasn't there personally but you can't ever know if someone hadn't done it in secret.
theres quite a lot of em on gamebanana i think
good thing i have my sentry buster explosion mod installed for all those times i get screwed over by sentry busters in casual!
why would anyont listen to solarlight tho, like outside of trimping
sentrybusters using teleporters is truely horrifying
(Que the generic villan organ music)
Not only wil they explode but also they will tele kill you too.
Having teams Deploy an emergency buster if they take too long to do any progress or get pushed too hard would be a sick ingame feature
Isn't that the Battlefield 1 Behemoth mechanic?
@@oskarrasmussen7137
pretty much. The behemoths in that game also proved to be a mostly innefective tool that didn't really do much besides drag games out and turn what was a 30 minute imbalanced stomp into a 40 minute imbalanced stomp with a 10 minute raid boss half way through.
@@jerrymartin7019 That is true.
Of course, our hypothetical Sentry Buster Behemoth would avoid that downside by their nature of being kamikazes.
No it wouldn't, pleople would start doing bad on purpose to win
@@Asparagusk yeah, that's a possibility, but I think it would be unlikely. purposefully losing just to spawn (in our hypothetical) one sentry buster, would be a lot less fun than actually playing the game and trying to win normally.
the second buster appearing out of the smoke at 2:30 is comedy gold
I was here for this, on a match of badwater. During a livestream where he didn’t say anything about the experiment. It was a little scary when the busters first spawned, I still hear the beeping.
Honestly, I feel like a gamemode that has both teams trying to maintain a robot factory to destroy the enemy team's base, while having to defend from both the enemy team itself and their own robots would be _real_ cool.
Kinda like a MOBA?
MvM but still with Red & Blu trying to kill each other? That sounds legendary. That might make every gamemode more fun
exactly, make it a different gamemode akin to payload race instead of putting it on casual. Ofc it will have a grand total of 3 players if it gets shoved in the alternative gamemodes category but still
Reminds me of the 'Ratchet and Clank Q-Force/Full frontal assualt' competitive multiplayer mode
This is definitely too strong because every red team member will literally die of a heart attack when they here the voice callout
Scario busters
hear*
2:30 sir, a second sentry buster has entered the red spawn
4:57 oh the irony
7:49 best Shounic clip of all-time?
Having a sentry buster run in is a cool idea
But having 50 of them is the issue
Tbh I think we could do with a few more, make sure every player got at least a few after them.
Nah. I'd say 20 should suffice
2:42 The sentry buster dance
2:28 That surprise sentry buster coming out of the smoke is one hell of a jumpscare. Imagine being that pyro, oof.
2:27
Pyro: Damn, that was close, I hope there's not gonna be more sentry busters in our sp-
Second sb: YOU THINK WE'RE DONE WITH YOU?
reminds me of wolfenstein: enemy territory where admins would nuke (kill) a team manually when the match became a stomp
Ahh yes. I play it from time to time using ET Legacy client. Still a lot of fun!
The backcap clip was hilarious. Like even though the round was over, the buster still wanted to kick scout's butt for the unfair round.
0:24 the sniper riding the sentry buster ☠️
Maybe the 100 player server would be a good time for Mann Vs Tank gamemode to come back?
Blue has an mvm tank that automatically moves down the track. Once destroyed, blue team will then get a trickle of players becoming giant blue robots with payload bombs
That could potentially alleviate a lot of red's inherent advantage
Sentry busters thigh-clamping you to stop you from moving so they can explode on you is pretty terrific ngl
Edit: lol it got autocorrected, meant terrifying but that works too lmao
Sure buddy. Sure.
🤨
getting thigh-clamped and exploded on… mmh…
I think it's genuinely a feat of artistry that you create these weirdly moving, lyrical, gentle, yet analytical, evidence-based, and thorough experiences ❤ thank you for continuing to make a content about this wonderful game
"balance is only achieved through true chaos" is basically the whole theme of the video
2:28 the cut immediately after the buster rushing out of the smoke was funny as hell
2:27 the comedic timing of that second sentry buster
BLU team: "hey guys let's all go friendly"
RED team: "no wait-"
Sentry buster plugin: "AHHHH I'M BUSSING!"
There is something weirdly satisfying seeing all the explosions going off, like an artillery strike. you have officially made tf2 look like an actual war zone
Would be a cool addition to a fps. Did you do too good too bad. The enemy high command saw their forces losing and nukes the area.
(9:00) This could be meme potential CX
2:28 That's a perfect cut right there
When u dont want to have balanced matchmaking so you kill everyone instead
Further proof you should be hired for valve's dev team
Wouldn't be much different from developing games by himself
LMAO@@86thosepatties
2:24 That's kinda funny another one just appears out if the smoke
I love how you bothered adding red sentry busters to this. You didn't have to do that, and I appreciate just that little bit more effort.
That sure is a way to break stalemates.
a way more exciting and fair feeling random crit tbh
1:21 I remember that poor heavy from your stream.
autobalance if it was actually good
2:21, straight up horror scene where we once thought that the violence was over just as it happened, it wasn't.
I cannot articulate how happy I am when I see an upload from this channel. Your coding breakdowns are incredible, but I'm so glad there's room for dumb fun like this (while analyzing its ramifications with a straight face). Reduce the amount of Sentry Busters and I feel like you have an unironically solid idea for a hacky band-aid that fixes unbalanced teams.
What if busters killed both team, while only targeting one (the winning team)
Yeah, imagine if a game comes to a standstill and 25 red and 25 blue sentury busters spawn.
@@CrystalFurVAL nah op meant if 50 busters appeared for one team only, but they had team attack turned on
having to watch out for friendly fire seems fair
The amount of PTSD this plugin will garner is substantial to say the least.
*Enemy sentry busters have entred the area*
still not as merciless as autobalance
Seeing a RED-team coloured Sentry Buster does look odd,kind of unnatural
The problem i see with busters is the smoke that obscures everything and the...utter chaos too much of it because if you dodge your buster you might get killed by someone else's buster alongside 3/4 of the team which as you said yourself might genuinely change the tide of the game asap.
The fix would be to spawn 1 buster every 3-4 players to still cause chaos but not instantly overwhelm the field
Yea, obviously the punished team is going to lose the next fight or two if you suddenly overwhelm them with high damage explosions.
Funny how even with the busters, it still only took a simple backcapping scout to quickly win a round. And only after the cap did the buster chasing that scout arrive.
7:46 “you failed so much at defending that your gonna get a punishment for it”
0:58 Never in my life had I seen something so hilarious yet so terrifying at the same time.
I think that this could actually be a good idea, but it needs a few changes:
-First I would say it should activate depending on point total for each team; if a team has like 15 (or any amount you can suggest) points total more than the other team for 30-60 seconds straight, the busters arrive
-Instead of spawning 50 sentry busters, the game just spawns 1 for every 3 players on the opposite team (casual servers are 12v12 so max 4 busters at once there seems balanced) to minimize the times you die to someone else's buster
-The sentry busters target the enemy team's top scoring players (which sounds unfair but remember that it's much eaiser to avoid a sentry buster when there are only four of them)
-It should deal at least some damage to their own team when they explode to prevent the losing team from mindlessly pushing as soon as the busters spawn, and maybe even let smart players detonate the busters on the point to avoid having someone cap by taking advantage of the panic and smoke
8:32 What is like to have DeGroot Keep filled with Ullapool Caber Demomen.
"When one team is suddenly outnumbered 5-to-1 against over four dozen suicide bomber bots that have 2,500 health, run at 187% speed, and deal 3,000 damage in a 60 foot blast diameter and leave a smokescreen as thick as a fog bank for the opposition to move up under obscuring cover, that team tends to loose. Who could have guessed?"
Would it be possible for you to make a video going over the bug where Pyro takes a ton of extra damage from grenades he reflects? It's been in the game for so long and bugs you dissect tend to be mysteriously patched not long after.
is that a bug? or is it how something works
it is a mini-crit grenade and pyro doesn't have any natural self-expulsion resistance
@@camoking3609 you're not supposed to deal crit damage to yourself so it's a bug, it's why a self-reflected rocket doesn't deal as much damage to you
Doesn't that happen because some flamethrower damage stat gets applied to the grenade or was that a different bug?
If I have to guess it's probably because airblast greatly increases pipe's splash radius (which shounic already covered), and that's why you take more damage from reflected pipes.
Shocker, if kill half of the team and apply a smoke screen, it works! Who would have ever seen that coming.
I really do just love that opening. So how do we fix if one team is doing to well.... spawn 50 sentry busters.
Pure genius xD
Imagine walking down a chokepoint and then all you see if 50 Sentry Busters just chasing you down
Enegie on the losing team:yes am an engineer CUZ AM ENGIE NEARING MY FUCKING LIMIT
this makes me imagine some kind of war game variation of tf2 where each team has a commander who doesn't participate as a mercenary, but can use a resource to cause effects like "kritz your team for a few seconds" or "summon sentty busters"
The buster's team also immune to the blast, while their enemiess aren't. Meaning you basically created an invincible area albeit for a short while, too.
More like a artillery cover for advancing soldiers.
3:46 "deploying smoke!"
If you can understand when the busters will spawn, the team about to be hit can have a spy sit at the other teams spawn and when they spawn, run in front and set all of them off
This makes me see the value in something like smoke grenades as a anti-camping measure, something that could fit with Demo’s or Spy’s loadout.
Society if spy got a smokescreen instead of the dead ringer
What if instead of a wave of Sentry Busters, have just ONE that targets the top scoring player?
I mean, sure, it can be avoided easily, but this means that said player must retreat somewhere far from the heat of battle, giving the dominating team a temporary disadvantage.
Also, the team getting helped can easily tell when to push according to the Sentry Buster announcement.
By the way, this is a crazy fun and clever idea you had. I can't stress enough how genius/interesting your video ideas are.
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 Well I mean, better having one person die than the entire team lmao.
Blue Shell, TF2 edition
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 "insta death"
bro. just bait it and then walk away from the blast radius.
Nothing's more terrifying than thinking you're winning a game when suddenly, over four dozen giant mines drop out of nowhere and start dashing towards you at high speed yelling *_"KABLOOIE!!!"_*
what if a few random weaker MVM bots spawned to help out both teams? idk i just like the whole idea of using the robots to help players
Im the backcapping scout at 8:53
Did they kabloowey you?
This is the definitive "Legalize Nuclear Bombs" plugin and I love it.
2:22 that pylon pyro was going to type how hilarious that was until another one popped out of the smoke to give him the smoke 💀
nice concept, the problem here is that you are punishing a team for doing good while rewarding and handicapping the one doing bad. perhaps simply placing indestructible mini sentries at each spawn could help mitigate camping and stomping, the only one around enemy spawn under normal circumstances is the spy and they know how to play around being seen.
Yeah mechanics like this need to be careful as they can overly punish you just by playing great.
legit the only solution to stompers is to get good, it doesnt need many gimmicks @@starmaker75
Adding robots to regular matches sounds fun, maybe add other types lke swarms of bat scouts or giant soldiers?
Do the meet the team videos with army of soldier bots.
This reminds me of that game where you have to pick a larger number than your opponent but if you go higher enough you lose instead. You have to make sacrifices and allow it to SEEM like the other team has a chance, or FIFTY BUSTERS WILL COME
This legit can be REALLY AWESOME
This is one of the countless things that must be added to casual to make it barely doable
Can you make a player randomly saxton hale on losing team?
2:28 It would have been hilarious if he did the laughing taunt.
"Oh man it's been a while since I last tried one of Shounic's server shenanigans, let's see if how fun it is!"
*Joins one of these servers, busters coming in at the start of the match already*
"... Well then."
your mom
3:40 SMOKE WAS ADDED TO TF2 GUYS!!!!
I think this would be better if it started spawning them one by one on a timer
The smokescreens left behind make me wonder how a weapon with the ability to leave large or lasting smokescreens would work.
"I have become death, the destroyer of worlds"
- Shounic (2023)
What were you smoking while planning for this plug-in?
You should try this on KOTH and 5cp, seems like they would be more balanced for this sorta stuff!