The TF2 Sentry Gun vs The Overwatch Turret

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @Toofty
    @Toofty  5 лет назад +2179

    Genuinely had to ask my primary school teacher wife to help with the maths
    EDIT:
    - The new torb turret cannot be upgraded for those of you unaware
    - I was going to discuss the old torb turret but I decided to remove that part to make the video more concise
    - The Wrangler can indeed increase the range of the Sentry but I decided to focus on the gun alone

    • @sx86
      @sx86 5 лет назад +59

      toofty is a verly good maths mane

    • @thewitchking2556
      @thewitchking2556 5 лет назад +25

      Great vid: imo sentry wins bc the mini sentry is comparable to the turret as 100 metal is basically free. And people intentionally go for level 3s whereas mini is good for other situations. Also engie has TONS of buildings that greatly help out maybe even more than sentry. So engie and sentry win but battle engie loses to thicc dude bc he is better at battling with all that hp. Pls heart toofy!

    • @catherinevo6060
      @catherinevo6060 5 лет назад +1

      TooftyTV xD

    • @David-kt9jz
      @David-kt9jz 5 лет назад +11

      I found the average health of an overwatch hero is 275 which is an effective 2.2 health which means that the sentry which means that THATS ALOT OF DAMAGE.

    • @David-kt9jz
      @David-kt9jz 5 лет назад +1

      *not effective health ratio of health

  • @funnymememan2142
    @funnymememan2142 5 лет назад +2564

    You used a big ammo box to refill 18 metal, you bastard.

    • @arkham9500
      @arkham9500 5 лет назад +132

      As long as there's a dispenser i'm ok with that, plus is no like a scout taking full medkit to restore 10 of his health

    • @comrademuds1951
      @comrademuds1951 5 лет назад +119

      @@mealvy just cause he has priority doesn't mean he should be inefficient

    • @friendlyfire2615
      @friendlyfire2615 5 лет назад +30

      Priority over ammo boxes is not taking an ammo box someone else could’ve used while he could’ve just built a dispenser and waited 5 seconds.

    • @RF-Ataraxia
      @RF-Ataraxia 5 лет назад +9

      @@friendlyfire2615 the level 1 dispenser takes longer to produce 100 metal than the ammo box to respawn tbh

    • @udjagrthrth8213
      @udjagrthrth8213 5 лет назад +14

      @@friendlyfire2615 Dispensers produce infinite ammo without cooldown, you have to wait for the metal in a dispenser to refill. So while yes he probably should've just made the dispenser, he also should've still taken the big box after since the disp would produce the ammo for all the other classes

  • @whammeister3002
    @whammeister3002 5 лет назад +3262

    9:35 "Your sentry gun is the front lines"
    Uncle Dane anger intensifies

    • @Krackerlack
      @Krackerlack 5 лет назад +228

      ancke dan is very gud sentry man

    • @brna42
      @brna42 5 лет назад +101

      ankle dane + anger = danger?

    • @zombiefanatic4833
      @zombiefanatic4833 5 лет назад +200

      "What the hell Purple we need a defense!" Purple: "I AM THE DEFENSE"

    • @AnArbiterAwakens
      @AnArbiterAwakens 5 лет назад +91

      Zombie Fanatic it’s “lazy what kind of defense is this!?”

    • @fedorflip
      @fedorflip 5 лет назад +40

      Love how Toofty explainedthe overall role of torb's turret in almost the same exact way Uncle Dane explains the role of a lvl 3 sentry

  • @waddarf4628
    @waddarf4628 5 лет назад +1850

    In conclusion: Don't mess with engineer and his sentry

  • @ChaosCha0s
    @ChaosCha0s 4 года назад +2063

    The only thing tobjorn can make is a turret
    He can’t make dispensers or pootis pencer here
    He can’t build teleporters
    And he doesn’t have PHD’s
    Engineer is clearly better

    • @katt646
      @katt646 4 года назад +47

      He has a daughter with daddy issues as he loves his turrets more.

    • @mm-hc6im
      @mm-hc6im 4 года назад +31

      yes

    • @mertsoup9113
      @mertsoup9113 4 года назад +43

      He can't build teleporters because that is another class's ability

    • @picklechicken8396
      @picklechicken8396 3 года назад +143

      @@mertsoup9113 she doesn’t build them she just places them. Vishkar probably works ages to make their things, while engi just smacks stuff with hammer.

    • @kiloklavdi1185
      @kiloklavdi1185 3 года назад +72

      @@picklechicken8396 *wrench and engineered hand

  • @saucypizzainthesky3279
    @saucypizzainthesky3279 4 года назад +334

    Engineer as a class is EXTREMELEY versatile
    He can be offense or deffense
    Even support!

    • @rafapoleszak7477
      @rafapoleszak7477 4 года назад +9

      I think it's mostly support

    • @eh2587
      @eh2587 4 года назад +8

      Although he can be pretty versatile, I'd say demo, soldier and medic are much more versatile

    • @NothingMeansNothingButNothing
      @NothingMeansNothingButNothing 2 года назад +3

      @@eh2587 Medic gaming is countered by Scout gaming

    • @supreme_noob556
      @supreme_noob556 Год назад +6

      uncle dane: am i joke to you?

    • @Galaxy-oy4nj
      @Galaxy-oy4nj Год назад +1

      ​@@eh2587 demo is quite versatile but suffers against scouts and good pyro players. Soldier id argue is the most versatile class in game, he has insane mobility thanks to rocket jumps, high survivability and excellent firepower. And pyros are not as much of an issue to you thanks to the shotgun. Medic... what the hell are you thinking? Medic should be played exclusively as a support class and only engage in combat when there is no one to help him. Medic is the team's backbone and the team is a medic's backbone. Thats how things are. A team needs a good medic to succeed, and a medic can only perform well if the team knows what to do.

  • @mr.brokendreams9721
    @mr.brokendreams9721 5 лет назад +2256

    Sentry Gun has low range you say,
    *LAUGHS IN WRANGLER AND RESCUE RANGER*

  • @americana_incarnate1717
    @americana_incarnate1717 5 лет назад +714

    Torbjon: I am a cog in a complex defensive strategy.
    Engineer: I AM THE DEFENSE!!!!

  • @Perjoss
    @Perjoss 5 лет назад +2878

    I wish -Mei- Overwatch heroes would explode into gibs like they do in TF2

    • @quiver5756
      @quiver5756 5 лет назад +163

      PG-13

    • @Ommelanden
      @Ommelanden 5 лет назад +281

      Just blood and guts everywhere, like when the enemy team has 3 demomen

    • @tsuaririndoku
      @tsuaririndoku 5 лет назад +47

      Commingle what about it explode into pieces like Pyro vision XD

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 5 лет назад +68

      Overwatch needs more blood and gore
      No guts, no glory!

    • @samuraijackoff5354
      @samuraijackoff5354 5 лет назад +56

      People dont want to destroy their waifus

  • @milx7210
    @milx7210 4 года назад +1898

    Low HP:
    scout: 125 hp
    Baseline:
    engie: 125 hp
    *seems legit*

    • @SilverNerf
      @SilverNerf 4 года назад +28

      ? Not using the gunslinger

    • @HanzTheODST
      @HanzTheODST 4 года назад +108

      Baseline is 150-200

    • @milx7210
      @milx7210 4 года назад +54

      @? nah, engie should have 125 and gunslinger give him 150 hp and slight resistance to explosives and bullets

    • @cimex7492
      @cimex7492 4 года назад +12

      Last time i checked 200 in ow is frail

    • @eh2587
      @eh2587 4 года назад +50

      Dont most classes have 125 hp and are still soft classes? Scout, spy,sniper aand engie have 125 (4 out of 9 classes) Medic has 150 (1 out of 9 classees) ,demo and pyro have 175.(2 out of 9 classes,) ,soldier has 200 (1 out of , 9 classes) and heavy has 300

  • @bumblebabble18
    @bumblebabble18 4 года назад +152

    I see the TF2 Sentry as a defensive tool designed to shut down an area entirely, taking a coordinated assault or special class to defeat, meanwhile the role of the Turret is more support damage, and putting on pressure. The turret is less of a defensive tool, but at the same time better for attack.

    • @KozelPraiseGOELRO
      @KozelPraiseGOELRO 2 года назад +23

      As note: You can use a Jag and a lvl 1 sentry or gunsliger to achieve this too.

    • @davidcenturion961
      @davidcenturion961 Год назад +7

      A better version of mini sentry

    • @30thCenturyFish
      @30thCenturyFish Год назад +5

      @@davidcenturion961 I wish the mini could be thrown like the torb turret

    • @samcross8532
      @samcross8532 Год назад +1

      ​@maxpower591 come on leave the scouts and trollgiers alone

    • @Aaa-vp6ug
      @Aaa-vp6ug Год назад

      ⁠@@30thCenturyFishIf there was a “weapon” that let’s you throw buildings, I would get it immediately.
      (It could use the Disposable Sentry from MvM {budget mini} and lower the other level caps by one, in exchange for more health and more focus on throwing buildings. I would love to be a Demoneer (can’t think of a better name {Spyper is Spy with a gun, Sny is Sniper but backstab, what would sound better than Engemo?)

  • @errousmasterofchaos69
    @errousmasterofchaos69 5 лет назад +3408

    But your missing one thing
    Can torb insta kill someone with a banjo

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 5 лет назад +227

      Or rancho relaxo?

    • @sBinnotto
      @sBinnotto 5 лет назад +217

      Or Gunslinger?

    • @ConsarnitTokkori
      @ConsarnitTokkori 5 лет назад +201

      or a revenge crit

    • @evanellis9178
      @evanellis9178 4 года назад +134

      He spams “You should try me meatballs” Which is just as good

    • @merica6640
      @merica6640 4 года назад +34

      Or ride a jackhammer?

  • @Fields_of_Fright1922
    @Fields_of_Fright1922 5 лет назад +871

    10:40 that rag doll is beautiful

    • @SandmanURL
      @SandmanURL 5 лет назад +46

      A flying banana spy

    • @D-S-G.
      @D-S-G. 5 лет назад +3

      Thats my conscientious objector pic

    • @tfBatimAnimation
      @tfBatimAnimation 5 лет назад +20

      Do you ever feel like a plastic bag

    • @SlewedBoot25934
      @SlewedBoot25934 5 лет назад +8

      We need to find him and put him in a gamer museum

    • @box1399
      @box1399 5 лет назад +4

      This belongs in a museum

  • @swolie
    @swolie 5 лет назад +335

    6:55
    Engineer : "You're, ugly."
    Torbjorn : [gasp]

    • @dolans.g7259
      @dolans.g7259 4 года назад +44

      Engie start to dance*

    • @BradyAus
      @BradyAus 4 года назад +23

      YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

    • @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad
      @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad 4 года назад +15

      "Last time i checked i didn't asked your opinion"
      That's most likely what Torb gonna say to Texas boy.

    • @fatis2745
      @fatis2745 3 года назад +13

      @@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad *loads frontier justice with malicious intent*
      start praying boy

    • @Eradicator-jv9xr
      @Eradicator-jv9xr 3 года назад +9

      @@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad pulls out widowmaker
      "I'M GONNA LAY YOU OUT!"

  • @verbatos9498
    @verbatos9498 4 года назад +590

    6:38, Incorrect, the sound of the sentry gun lock-on is not beautiful, it is bone-chillingly terrifying.

    • @doublem1354
      @doublem1354 4 года назад +207

      Found the scout main.

    • @jimboringo9958
      @jimboringo9958 4 года назад +6

      ANT EXENOMORPH RUclips GAMES UNTURNED COMMENT GUY lol

    • @meeperdudeify
      @meeperdudeify 4 года назад +6

      It's a challenge.

    • @lev7509
      @lev7509 4 года назад +38

      Both to the Engie and victim.
      The Engie needs to focus on how to repair it in time, where to go if the enemy does push through, unsapping the tele your team needs and getting that one Spy.
      The victim...

    • @boid9761
      @boid9761 3 года назад +9

      Found the Spy main

  • @excusemewhat8437
    @excusemewhat8437 4 года назад +111

    “Your shotgun and your pistol are kind of a last resort.”
    *Laughs* *in* *Widowmaker.*

  • @pierrecourtois5167
    @pierrecourtois5167 5 лет назад +209

    I'm surprised you didn't talk about the rate at which you can heal the turret, I think it would have been interesting to compare too

    • @whatsthat8730
      @whatsthat8730 5 лет назад +24

      That would be incredibly hard to do considering some wrenches heal more/less plus the rescue ranger would have to be counted. Whereas torb has....Hammer

  • @Maddisch
    @Maddisch 5 лет назад +477

    Now that you have worked out the hp ratio we can mod/simulate the ow heroes in tf2 and play tf2 vs overwatch :o

    • @thegreatdokidefendertf2889
      @thegreatdokidefendertf2889 5 лет назад +25

      Yes. Please.

    • @terner1234
      @terner1234 5 лет назад +9

      as if that's high level math

    • @nochill7884
      @nochill7884 5 лет назад +25

      Overwatch is completely competitive, TF2 is just memes, and can be competitive. You can do almost anything you want in TF2, whereas in overwatch you are restricted to just the objective. You can't really compare TF2 to overwatch, as they are so different.

    • @TheBigSad8247
      @TheBigSad8247 5 лет назад +35

      @@nochill7884 All the more reason to compare the two. You really say "you can't compare..." If the two objects in question are too similar. Sure it's more interesting to find out what they are because they aren't as noticable, but will have far few between compared to things that are very different.
      Think of it like this:
      Orange vs Tangerine
      - quality of differences: interesting
      - quantity of differences: few
      Orange vs. monkey wrench
      - quality of differences: predicable
      - quantity of differences: a lot

    • @silverdededestruction2197
      @silverdededestruction2197 5 лет назад +7

      @@nochill7884 >TF2 can be competitive.
      Mini-crits: Allow us to introduce ourselves.

  • @PeterJamesVillegas
    @PeterJamesVillegas 5 лет назад +336

    Torbjorn has a big DPS
    Me as an Engineer player: *_Laughs in Wrangler, Frontier Justice, The Widowmaker, and the Gunslinger_*

    • @doublem1354
      @doublem1354 4 года назад +21

      I think there is not a single better thing than a widowmaker battle engie.

    • @sweetricecakeman8582
      @sweetricecakeman8582 4 года назад +31

      @@doublem1354 if you have perfect aim, only MYG)T can stop you

    • @carteriffic1681
      @carteriffic1681 4 года назад +11

      The widow maker actually has the same DPS as stock, it just feels more powerful and has infinite ammo if you hit your shots. Also, the wrangler requires to get a sentry up, and do you mean mini sentry cause the southern hospitality does more, but i think you mean the third hit crit punch.

    • @eh2587
      @eh2587 4 года назад +3

      Dosnt the widowmaker do the same damage per shot as stock? Although you could say that it has a higher dps if you can aim

    • @microawesome2469
      @microawesome2469 4 года назад +1

      And in YEEEEE HAWWWWWWW

  • @thatonechannel1937
    @thatonechannel1937 3 года назад +137

    9:40 So painful watching him whack that sentry when the tele and dispenser were dying

    • @samwai3762
      @samwai3762 Год назад +6

      if it's ain't broke, don't fix it...yet

    • @ME0WMERE
      @ME0WMERE Год назад +5

      speaking of that, where did the spy's sapper go? the dispenser was being sapped, and then it just suddenly...wasn't
      and there was nothing in the killfeed indicating that the sapper was destroyed

    • @pig6293
      @pig6293 Год назад +7

      ​@@ME0WMERE Prob the pyro but idk about the killfeed thing that's probably a bug or something

    • @ChibiM11
      @ChibiM11 Год назад +2

      @@ME0WMERE exactly what I was thinking! Just what happened here! It has to be that Pyro at 10:06 being a PyBro since the other is using a powerjack. Too bad the killfeed seems to not show who did it..

  • @Flamme-Sanabi
    @Flamme-Sanabi 5 лет назад +425

    I personally think, that Engineer is better, not just because he has about 21 PHD's.
    But because the Engineer is much more specific about his building, you help your teammates with ammo and healing, brings them faster to the front with his teleporter, which needs another hero if you want to do that in Overwatch and of course, the Sentry Gun.
    Normally it has such an impact on you, that if it gets destroyed, it's like if the enemy team has burned, shot, electecuted, bombed and wetted your child, that you want to kill them ala John Whick style.
    With the Turret it's just another building.
    A boring bulding that is just a gimmig.
    I ain't feeling any joy or sadness if it get destroyed or build.
    P.S. I would have loved it, how fast the strongest hero/class could kill a sentry/turret.

    • @giullianorosagaran2125
      @giullianorosagaran2125 3 года назад +9

      Wow that was long but you are correct

    • @boid9761
      @boid9761 3 года назад +16

      Torb's turret apparently deploys faster than a Mini Sentry, but I'd choose the Gunslinger any day.

    • @EnriqueGonzalez-lx3vl
      @EnriqueGonzalez-lx3vl 3 года назад +27

      theres no feeling such as getting a lvl 3 nest with teleporters, dispenser, and sentry, before the setup time is over

    • @tekky1202
      @tekky1202 3 года назад +11

      TF2 Quality over OW quantity

    • @autopliotjk5842
      @autopliotjk5842 3 года назад +2

      I thought he had 9 or 11 phd

  • @beesechurger2540
    @beesechurger2540 5 лет назад +466

    If the Sentry Gun was in Overwatch you'd be getting dominations left and right.

    • @vasudeanguy8523
      @vasudeanguy8523 3 года назад +74

      Thus forcing the team to focus on the one putting it down. I love the Sentry Gun myself. To me, nothing's more beautiful than hearing it lock on and the rapid *Dings* I get.

    • @Florida_boy
      @Florida_boy 3 года назад +45

      @@vasudeanguy8523 that sound ain't beautiful, it gives me ptsd flashbacks every single time i hear a beep

    • @CatLover69420
      @CatLover69420 2 года назад +58

      @@Florida_boy found the scout main

    • @aaronking2020
      @aaronking2020 2 года назад +10

      almost like putting a mechanic from one game into another with zero changes would be unbalanced

    • @andrewle4989
      @andrewle4989 2 года назад +10

      I can imagine an engineer dying to a bear trap or something and then getting 5 kills before they respawn. I totally didn’t get this from a random sfm.

  • @indecisivecountdooku1340
    @indecisivecountdooku1340 5 лет назад +425

    Tracer: Annoying, Time Traveler, British.
    Scout: Annoying/Funny, Eats RPGs by drinking Soda, Bostoner. *Let's have a **-Tea-** BONK! Party*

  • @ihaveseenthings0
    @ihaveseenthings0 2 года назад +53

    I like how Engineer is described to “sprinkle a little damage here and there” along his sentry when he can provide teleportation, healing and ammo restock which are traits Torbjorn could only dream of

    • @samcross8532
      @samcross8532 Год назад

      Yeah he realy sucks off overwatch

    • @taylorevandale4261
      @taylorevandale4261 Год назад

      Someone else is responsible for spawning teleporters in Overwatch. I don’t know for Dispensers though.

    • @Zombiezambo
      @Zombiezambo 4 месяца назад

      A crippled mercy with no wheel chair?

  • @lukamtc9188
    @lukamtc9188 4 года назад +57

    "The engineer himself only adds the 20% of the possible damage output"
    **jag intensifies**

  • @kayagorzan
    @kayagorzan 5 лет назад +98

    Tf2's sentry gun made a cameo in Payday 2, instantly making it better.

    • @gmailquinn
      @gmailquinn 4 года назад +10

      I don't play payday 2 but you have my interest

    • @CryptikSpectre
      @CryptikSpectre 3 года назад +8

      Ooh that is very interesting

    • @taylorevandale4261
      @taylorevandale4261 8 месяцев назад +1

      Some Valve-related stuff and Easter eggs are in Payday 2. For example, in the one with the nukes, the lockers in the warehouse mentions Gordon Freeman. Also, and I believe everyone knows this, Mercy Hospital from Left 4 Dead is in said game.

  • @cooperclarke7016
    @cooperclarke7016 5 лет назад +883

    Engy is more bootiful plus he makes pootis penser here

    • @guy3nder529
      @guy3nder529 5 лет назад +41

      pootis spencer here!

    • @guy3nder529
      @guy3nder529 5 лет назад +29

      @Jason Wilton are you gonna cry, baby?

    • @nxrtisu
      @nxrtisu 5 лет назад +2

      @Jason Wilton Nope.

    • @guy3nder529
      @guy3nder529 5 лет назад +12

      @Jason Wilton you are DEAD! HAHAHA!

    • @Alex-jz2hk
      @Alex-jz2hk 5 лет назад +12

      @*Meme Lord* all of your team are BABIES!

  • @thegreatdokidefendertf2889
    @thegreatdokidefendertf2889 5 лет назад +954

    "torbjorn does more damage"
    Me: **laughs in panic attack, Wrangler, and pistol**

    • @DarthWidar
      @DarthWidar 5 лет назад +28

      Herobro / TF2 how tf do you even have wrangler and pistol at the same time in the First place? 😆

    • @thegreatdokidefendertf2889
      @thegreatdokidefendertf2889 5 лет назад +79

      @@DarthWidar not at the same time, silly.

    • @thegreatdokidefendertf2889
      @thegreatdokidefendertf2889 5 лет назад +28

      @divide two , panic attack can do 108 damage, without crits.

    • @TheBigSad8247
      @TheBigSad8247 5 лет назад +10

      @@thegreatdokidefendertf2889 so why mention two secondary slot items and not a single melee slot item? Random crits alone makes melee a decent DPS weapon, like it or not.

    • @thegreatdokidefendertf2889
      @thegreatdokidefendertf2889 5 лет назад +3

      BrownieKuma72, Jag.

  • @lerbronk
    @lerbronk 4 года назад +132

    yeah torb's gun is powerfull but know the thing thats called "random crits?"
    edit: yep, sentry cant crit but who really sit like a shitass turtleass ass turtle with lv3 sentry + dispenser in an intel room anyway. real man run with shotgun like real texas

    • @btsmember4072
      @btsmember4072 3 года назад +11

      Random crits are fair and balanced

    • @starshot8842
      @starshot8842 3 года назад +5

      @@btsmember4072 In this context.
      Yes

    • @shovelman7641
      @shovelman7641 3 года назад +4

      Sentry guns can't get random crits though

    • @starshot8842
      @starshot8842 3 года назад +2

      @@shovelman7641 100% Crit servers:...

    • @lerbronk
      @lerbronk 3 года назад +3

      @@shovelman7641 wrench can

  • @spectenix
    @spectenix 4 года назад +50

    I must say that the sentry gun not only has tons of damage, but it also pushes you back. This is very important. It prevents players ftom getting close to the enemies or the turret itself. Also, if you DARE to fly near the sentry, it can and WILL pin you against a wall or even the edge of the map

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 Год назад +2

      It also seriously Fuchs over bonk scouts

  • @ThatGuy-cr1ly
    @ThatGuy-cr1ly 5 лет назад +980

    Who would win? Genius man with 5000 PhD in literally everything? Or one Swedish boi

    • @ConsarnitTokkori
      @ConsarnitTokkori 5 лет назад +122

      honestly
      genius man
      a really really good torb has a really really really good gun
      but any combat engi with even half a brain cell knows that crits = good, mini sentry = 3 or so kills before going boom and 3 or so kills = *start fucking praying*
      but if it's a rescue ranger then torb is better, but his turret still sucks in comparison

    • @evanellis9178
      @evanellis9178 4 года назад +34

      Torbjorn was a world class inventor and weapons designer. He was the inventor of mechs ( In overwatches universe) and created the Bastion units, which were a massively strong robot army.

    • @merica6640
      @merica6640 4 года назад +31

      Engi

    • @thebigyes8482
      @thebigyes8482 4 года назад +15

      evan Ellis He didn’t create the bastion units, the omniums did.

    • @GonnaDieNever
      @GonnaDieNever 4 года назад +77

      @@evanellis9178 Torn didn't invent biological immortality or teleportation though.

  • @fedorflip
    @fedorflip 5 лет назад +75

    Still waiting for Uncle Dane's comment on the sentry deploy speed

  • @UpDownAndUnder
    @UpDownAndUnder 5 лет назад +49

    TF2 Sentry Gun: To help the team
    Overwatch Turret: To steal POTG

  • @a_random_youtuber6151
    @a_random_youtuber6151 2 года назад +63

    Turret: I am only used for assistance.
    Sentry: Enjoy your 56 kills and 32 assists against these bots in Practice.

  • @shortsentral
    @shortsentral 4 года назад +85

    Also the wrangler can basically double the damage and add to its health

  • @jackeea_
    @jackeea_ 5 лет назад +414

    What about Barik's """""turrets""""" from Paladins, which are made of tissue paper, shoot blanks, and self-destruct if you sneeze at them?

    • @reubin741
      @reubin741 5 лет назад +49

      Jackeea their not rally turrets. They feel more like pea shooters from plants vs zombies

    • @dankmemer5699
      @dankmemer5699 5 лет назад +119

      @@reubin741 dont you dare compare these powerful bastards to this crap

    • @CatQueen1323
      @CatQueen1323 5 лет назад +22

      They are just extra Dps, like a couple extra guns. With the slugs card, Barrik just kind of works as a discount torb.

    • @randomdude5633
      @randomdude5633 5 лет назад +21

      @@CatQueen1323 discount torb? Idk more like winter sale special offer 90% off torb

    • @bassbusterx
      @bassbusterx 5 лет назад +7

      @@smolmen7674 haha no

  • @udjagrthrth8213
    @udjagrthrth8213 5 лет назад +128

    I'd like to point out, the widowmaker, short circuit, and the frontier justice.
    The widowmaker can have massive damage output if you land your shots at a short distance, due to not needing to reload and an effectively infinite.... drum? clip? tube?
    The short circuit can do 15 damage per couple seconds while inside the sphere, and prevent enemy projectiles from harming your person. So if the enemy is backing up you can also do around 45-60 damage per sphere per person. Granted you get three-four hits on a given person.
    With the frontier justice, you get free crits(which don't suffer from damage falloff) per kill/assist you get with your gun, and considering how sentries tend to steal kills and assists, you'll rack those up fairly quickly in a good game.
    It's also unfair to discount the engineers stock option up close, as a decent engi can easily kill over eager dps classes with his shotgun, and given a distraction like you gave Torb when discussing upclose tank shredding, the engi can do that too with his shotgun, and range isn't out of the realm of possibility, considering he also has the pistol, which does do generally reliable damage at range, granted not as much as the headshot projectile Torb fires.
    I would also like to point out the gunslinger, which basically changes the engi from 20 him 80 sentry, to a more 40 sentry 60 him if you play it right. Along with bringing the engi from 125 health to 150.
    I think ultimately, this just highlights how many more ways there is to play a class in TF2, than in OW, which makes the comparison unfair to both sides, because you have to ignore all unlockables for engi for torb to really stand a chance, since we also covered the fact the mini still does more damage than the turret, but by nerfing the engi, you also make him very boring to play, because you sit behind your snety gun waiting for the enemy to walk into it, or maybe you can do a risky teleport play.
    You have to discount everything else that defines the engi in order for Torb to have a chance, but it's unfair to even just compare Torb to engi, since OW is more focused on set classes, which fill the niches the different weapons TF2 has that change the way classes play. Such as Symetra's shield gen and teleport being comparable to the engi's dispenser and teleporter, or even Lucio's aoe healing to the dispenser.
    Ammo is also a somewhat unfair comparison since one game uses ammo as a common currency across all classes making it so that each class has a reason to get an ammo pack, even spy who relies on melee more than his ranged weapon. When the other just... doesn't. Engineer plays a huge role in the ammo and health economy for TF2, where in OW there's no need for an ammo provider. Which is why I'm somewhat upset with your cost comparison, it really should've just been setup time since one game just doesn't have a comparison to make.
    While the video was fun, the actual comparison ultimately falls flat, since you went beyond just sentry gun and turret, and went into the people placing it while still looking at it from the view of the sentry gun instead of the classes themselves.

    • @jspark8990
      @jspark8990 4 года назад +13

      theres also the issue that a good chunch of overwatches weapons are projectiles so the short circuit would hard counter half the roster

    • @MonsoonTheMagnet
      @MonsoonTheMagnet 2 года назад +2

      The frontier justice doesn't give crits unless the sentry got a kill and it got destroyed/ you demolished it

  • @demolishbuster7361
    @demolishbuster7361 5 лет назад +230

    Engineer is the best tf2 character cuz of his iconic scream.
    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *Explosions*

  • @Jpmotor13
    @Jpmotor13 4 года назад +50

    portal torret: Allow me to introduce myself

    • @madsword19
      @madsword19 3 года назад +7

      Are you still there?

    • @alvianekka80
      @alvianekka80 2 года назад +7

      "That's 65% more boolet, per boolet."

    • @nike2136
      @nike2136 2 года назад +2

      @@MXSVIC half life 1 turret : allow me to introduce myself

    • @kapa_nitori
      @kapa_nitori 2 года назад +3

      @@madsword19 AAAaaaAAAAaaaaaaAAaaaAAA!
      Critical error...

  • @Slimreaper13
    @Slimreaper13 4 года назад +17

    If you want to compare, the mini sentry is fairly similar to torb turret, whereas a level 3 is very much the same sort of threat as a turret-mode bastion, one is a drop and run nuisance, whereas one is an almost immediate death threat

  • @Grampa_Swood
    @Grampa_Swood 5 лет назад +34

    1:24 You picked up a full health kit, while being healed, for 14 HP. I don' t think I can watch you anymore.

    • @Toofty
      @Toofty  5 лет назад +12

      I'm unsubscribing

  • @McSlobby
    @McSlobby 5 лет назад +67

    "Torb does more damage"
    Wrangler: *You dare underestimate me?*

    • @danielscully449
      @danielscully449 5 лет назад +3

      Torn himself does more, engie is making the sentry do more

    • @giganigga3025
      @giganigga3025 4 года назад +6

      @@danielscully449 panic attack:get noobed buster

    • @mrclean541
      @mrclean541 4 года назад +2

      @@giganigga3025 ulting torn :get noobed buster

    • @hawtdanger5256
      @hawtdanger5256 4 года назад +3

      @@mrclean541 widowmaker with sl_infinite_ammo 1 + crits: get noobed buster

    • @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad
      @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad 4 года назад +3

      @@giganigga3025
      Overwatch's Shield: get Noob

  • @pablocruz5613
    @pablocruz5613 5 лет назад +99

    This really reflects a different design philosophy in the 2 games. The Engineer was designed to cause stalemates, to be that wall the enemy team had to work together to push past, while Torbjorn is just one of 6 heroes who all have to work together to MAKE that stalemate.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 5 лет назад +43

      Except teleport is most important building engineer can ever build.
      -Sentries kill people
      -Dispensers save lives
      -Teleporters win games.

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 5 лет назад

      Torb: N U T

    • @knifedance2402
      @knifedance2402 5 лет назад +12

      Except the engineer can also be many, many other things, and torb has the sort of role-schizophrenia that makes almost anyone who chooses him look stupid because the chances of them actually performing what tiny little limited role he works within well are infinitesimally small.

    • @knavenformed9436
      @knavenformed9436 4 года назад +6

      @@tappajaav
      Pretty sure the teleporter would not have the time of day without the control the sentry offers.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 4 года назад +14

      @@knavenformed9436 That's good thought in theory, but in practice well-placed teleporters are often protected by the continuous stream of teammates coming through it.

  • @a.k8185
    @a.k8185 4 года назад +55

    Interesting that the sentry from 19's is tougher than the turret from the future.

    • @IluvTama
      @IluvTama 2 года назад +5

      Funny automotive beeping gun go BRRR-WOOOoooshboom

    • @TheKoriKasai
      @TheKoriKasai 2 года назад +16

      Well engie does have 11 PhDs while tobjern only has 0

    • @a.k8185
      @a.k8185 2 года назад +11

      @@TheKoriKasai
      Big brain vs Small brain basically.

    • @TheKoriKasai
      @TheKoriKasai 2 года назад +7

      @@a.k8185 exactly

    • @wr3nche5
      @wr3nche5 Год назад +4

      i mean, half of things from the past are better than things in the present/future. somehow as a race we're getting worse

  • @mee091000
    @mee091000 4 года назад +10

    "Your shotgun is only really good at picking off spies or low health players"
    **Widowmaker and Panic Attack Intensifies**

  • @Madead
    @Madead 5 лет назад +744

    This is so obvious, both will lose because the Turret from Portal II is better.

    • @MrMoron-qn5rx
      @MrMoron-qn5rx 5 лет назад +83

      Bull... the defective turret beats both! -0 dmg? Big whoop. The defect is more sexy, can talk and is still looking for bullets, therefor making its determination stronger then the others, the ones that wait for ammo to come to them. Also +75 more bullet per bullet is the portal turret's whole deal!

    • @unclekanethetiberiummain1994
      @unclekanethetiberiummain1994 5 лет назад +57

      It fires the whole bullet! That's 65% more bullets than conventional turret.

    • @Guing1
      @Guing1 5 лет назад +6

      dont make limonade

    • @Thornskade
      @Thornskade 5 лет назад +45

      The Turrets from Portal have more personality and are better written than any of the OW characters

    • @egorence2149
      @egorence2149 5 лет назад +24

      they can sing songs
      clearly the portal turret has won

  • @guy3nder529
    @guy3nder529 5 лет назад +79

    i was going to complain about how it makes much more sense to use the average hp's rather than the baselines, but after figuring those myself turns out the ratio is still 1.6-1.7. dosent actually change much for these calculations.
    also engie bits torb on every visual and audio design front.

    • @DarthWidar
      @DarthWidar 5 лет назад +2

      Guy3nder havent you seen Torbjörns new summer games skin? 10/10 👌🏻😏

    • @guy3nder529
      @guy3nder529 5 лет назад +10

      @@DarthWidar if they could decide whether he's fat or muscular, and make that muscular, hell get higher. Never as high as engine, but higher. You can also customize engies appearance with as many ridiculous wares as you please, while torb only has some boring, highly detailed and designed skins.

  • @_narrows
    @_narrows 5 лет назад +376

    Wouldn't mini-sentry vs torb 2.0 turret be a better comparison to make?
    Cool info, nonetheless.
    (lol i need to finish the video before commenting next time)

  • @Neuwey331
    @Neuwey331 2 года назад +17

    Engineer's Sentry Gun is more resilient than the Heavy, who is the strongest class in TF2. The Sentry Gun is basically a combination of Soldier and Heavy.

    • @Repolshon
      @Repolshon 4 месяца назад

      2 brass beast heavies and a soldier lol

  • @wojtekpolska1013
    @wojtekpolska1013 3 года назад +10

    Overwatch Turret more closely resembles the minisentry:
    - almost instant deploy
    - lower dps
    - cant upgrade
    - no rockets

  • @smacka7453
    @smacka7453 5 лет назад +50

    When you watch lazy purple's how it feels to be engineer
    Lazy: "I HAVE A SHOTGUN"
    Dane: "LAZY WHAT KIND OF DEFENSE IS THIS"
    LAZY: "I AM THE DEFENSE"

  • @jackhudner3804
    @jackhudner3804 5 лет назад +80

    The Sentry Gun is a much larger investment, intended to be a core component of a team's ability to halt a push - Engineer is a very real contender for the most important person on a team in TF2, with his buildings (especially his teleporter) being the things that a team fights around. The Turret, however, is an anti-flanking tool that serves to compliment the team, not control it. Unlike the Engineer, Torbjorn is not the most important person on his team - the team's "Main Tank" (the character who is responsible for giving their team space to work with, usually being Reinhardt, Orisa, Winston or Wrecking Ball) is. Torbjorn is intended to be one of many possible damage options, his main specialty being his sturdiness and protecting his team from being surrounded and picked apart. The concept of "Making Space" is very important in Overwatch, while TF2 doesn't really have a concept of making space. Both the Sentry gun and the Turret make sense considering the respective roles of the character they are bound to, and the structure of the game they are in.

    • @Gammera2000
      @Gammera2000 5 лет назад +17

      tldr: Torb is like a battle engineer with a super strong emphasis on the battle aspect.

    • @Rat_Fบcker
      @Rat_Fบcker 4 года назад +1

      You gonna need atleast 1 engi on your team
      Free ammo and heal is always a good thing

    • @meeperdudeify
      @meeperdudeify 4 года назад +9

      I'd say that "making space" is still quite important in tf2, because of uber. You need to have an area where your medic can be safe while still healing, and your engineer can build up support buildings. This "space is often created by power classes such as soldier, demo and heavy, that have the hp and damage to hold ground, and create a front line.

    • @THG_thehumangod
      @THG_thehumangod 4 года назад +2

      Jack Hudner a good way to see which class in TF2 is high priority is to use my domination theory. Basically, take out that class's bot and play it yourself(if you good at the game and can play better than a bot). If you lead your team to victory, then that class is important(same goes if you bad and cause the team to lose). If you are doing godlike and have the highest points, but your team still loses, then the class only has situational importance.
      Edit: TF2 bots are pretty stupid and suck at aiming TBH and this idea should be scrapped.

    • @meeperdudeify
      @meeperdudeify 4 года назад +1

      @@THG_thehumangod that's a pretty bad way to do things, because tf2 bots are incredibly stupid

  • @randomnepali7772
    @randomnepali7772 5 лет назад +41

    Sentry upgrades in a nutshell: *"wE NEeD mORE dAkKa"*

  • @MiculBandit
    @MiculBandit 3 года назад +2

    In engineer, the beep that the sentry makes means:
    Your f*cked.

  • @STARWARSISPOG
    @STARWARSISPOG 2 года назад +7

    Another ting to add to the dps section is that the rockets dont always hit on the tf2 sentry because of the slow projectile speed. Just keep that in mind.

  • @tomweston939
    @tomweston939 5 лет назад +181

    Now do level 3 vs bastion

    • @gimble2697
      @gimble2697 5 лет назад +16

      Sir Duckington level 2 would be better since bastion is only bullets, until ultimate of course

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 5 лет назад

      @@gimble2697 if you count the ult, then Lv3 will be fitting

    • @ConsarnitTokkori
      @ConsarnitTokkori 5 лет назад +14

      you don't get revenge crits from dying as bastion

    • @knifedance2402
      @knifedance2402 5 лет назад +5

      Do level 3 vs all of overwatch. It would win.

    • @DarthWidar
      @DarthWidar 5 лет назад

      Yuri Moon laughs in barriers, emp, bastion, cc overall

  • @autumn2754
    @autumn2754 5 лет назад +19

    11:11 Toofy falls for the best spy synergy strat of 2019

  • @ComicaPaloozaStudios
    @ComicaPaloozaStudios 5 лет назад +12

    As a point I think is interesting, while Torbjorn only has his Sentry as a building to work with, Engineer has essentially three OW heroes as his buildings: besides the Sentry as mentioned in the video, he also has an essence of Lucio with his Dispenser and an essence of Symmetra with his Teleporter. Given that, it's clear how each game prioritizes those three elements based on level design and character abilities.

  • @doomfallmustang9904
    @doomfallmustang9904 4 года назад +15

    Imagine all the classes of Tf2 vs all the heroes of Overwatch. It would be interesting to see how well each class would handle all the heroes and vice-versa.

    • @NoSkill_fr
      @NoSkill_fr Год назад +1

      So kinda like TF2 vs Overwatch by Winglet

    • @taylorevandale4261
      @taylorevandale4261 Год назад +4

      In terms of gameplay, it’s a battle between damage or trickery. TF2 weapons do a crap ton of damage, and healing is also at a rapid pace. Overwatch is more about trickery, relying on abilities to take down threats.

    • @shoulderpyro
      @shoulderpyro 4 месяца назад

      Well if we're also running with each side having their own team's server rules we're looking at 12 vs 6, for starters.
      On top of TF2 weapons being way more versatile, dealing way more damage, healing way faster, and being far less relient on teammates.. Yeah thats going to be a hard stomp the moment a single overpriced merc goes down

  • @khongnoi1012
    @khongnoi1012 3 года назад +8

    The Turret looks much more similar to the Mini Sentry tbh.
    The Lv3 Sentry definitely adds so much more to the depth of the game. A well-positioned Sentry nest is like an overpowered war machine, and the other team has to play around it, using both the appropriate counter weapons/classes and the map's terrain.

  • @mikey10006
    @mikey10006 5 лет назад +38

    I still have no idea how a quality helpful RUclipsr as yourself has gone so unnoticed, it actually make some upset
    Edit: makes me upset

    • @Toofty
      @Toofty  5 лет назад +7

      Thanks Shemsy that's a really kind comment :)

    • @mikey10006
      @mikey10006 5 лет назад +1

      @@Toofty you're welcome :) you ever tried advertising somehow? I'm sure you'd make it seriously big if you just had a little bit more exposure you have quality, comedy,analysis, everything

  • @IC-23
    @IC-23 5 лет назад +49

    So Torbjorn is sort of a battle Engineer? Never really got into OW because I didn't like the playstyles offered 2 years ago, I guess I shouldn't have overlooked the short fellow.

    • @Gammera2000
      @Gammera2000 5 лет назад +10

      He got a rework about a year and a half ago that made him way more fun to play

    • @pokeaust7800
      @pokeaust7800 5 лет назад +4

      Gammera It also made him a lot more useful on both Attack and defense, unlike how he was before

  • @MelonTF2
    @MelonTF2 5 лет назад +24

    A minisentry does more damage that the turret lol

  • @Spaqus
    @Spaqus 5 лет назад +10

    People talk about the infinite range of the turrets
    Me: *laughing in wrangler*

  • @bukachell
    @bukachell 4 года назад +9

    The sentry animations are super satisfying to watch in slow motion and normal speed

  • @SquidKing
    @SquidKing 5 лет назад +95

    6:50 how is that a contest?
    The picture u put of engi there speaks for itself

    • @SlewedBoot25934
      @SlewedBoot25934 5 лет назад +15

      Torb is ugleh

    • @_sargentocoelho_4441
      @_sargentocoelho_4441 4 года назад +8

      @@SlewedBoot25934 Virgin: looc at me am midget
      C H A D: * sexual tone * *Kippie kiay kyaaa hayo*

    • @ambisstuff2376
      @ambisstuff2376 4 года назад +1

      Looks like engie is about to say "you're ugly"

    • @Morphoidism
      @Morphoidism 4 года назад

      Straight from eltorro so of course it's beautiful

    • @candypoh2640
      @candypoh2640 4 года назад

      @@ambisstuff2376 sad sniper noises

  • @tobydigiovanni5838
    @tobydigiovanni5838 5 лет назад +31

    the sentry actually fires 4 rockets at a time

    • @ManLikeEddy
      @ManLikeEddy 5 лет назад +5

      nah it looks like it fires 4 but its only one rocket

    • @tobydigiovanni5838
      @tobydigiovanni5838 5 лет назад +1

      @@ManLikeEddy oh

    • @chocolatebahr1031
      @chocolatebahr1031 4 года назад

      WRONG IT DOES shoot 4 rockets dining you watch uncle Danes lvl3 vs lvl 2 sentry video it shoots 4

    • @giganigga3025
      @giganigga3025 4 года назад +1

      @@ManLikeEddy it is 4 rockets but they're redirected to one target wonder why the sentry has freaking 4 holes when it gets to LVL 3 lol

  • @Planty_
    @Planty_ 5 лет назад +41

    10:40 Ragdoll 😂😂

  • @TheGateShallStand
    @TheGateShallStand 4 года назад +7

    All I'm hearing is that if these two games were suddenly pulled into real life I know exactly who to join up with.

  • @vanderlindeplays7499
    @vanderlindeplays7499 4 года назад +32

    "Torb does more damage"
    Me: laughs in frontier justice

    • @sonicdml4175
      @sonicdml4175 4 года назад +6

      "My sentry with 2564 kills and 234 assists just got destroyed have fun with 5362 crits."

    • @vanderlindeplays7499
      @vanderlindeplays7499 4 года назад +1

      @@sonicdml4175 I fear no man but that thing it scares me

    • @meeperdudeify
      @meeperdudeify 4 года назад

      Hee hee Widowmaker go ca-ching

    • @micahkim728
      @micahkim728 4 года назад

      Torin Fu NoOoOo u can’t just have Infinite ammo in TF2

    • @giganigga3025
      @giganigga3025 4 года назад

      @@micahkim728 hehe widow maker circuit combo go shoot zap zap

  • @Korato01
    @Korato01 5 лет назад +15

    You should also mention the cooldown on Torbs Turret. Especially when comparing it to the Mini Sentry which you can spam out as much as you want. If you have the Metal for it.

  • @clownsanity
    @clownsanity 5 лет назад +40

    Tf2 sentry: no one can pass
    Overwatch turret: lol destroyed it in a second since it does no dammage

    • @Jdudec367
      @Jdudec367 5 лет назад

      it's actually annoying to take down a level 2 turret in overwatch from my experience and then there is the removed level 3 which is stronger then a level 3 sentry

    • @MissFeatherstone
      @MissFeatherstone 5 лет назад +8

      Jayden C
      It wasn’t really as powerful as the lv3 sentry. It may seem more powerful due to the pacing of OW rounds and because less overwatch characters are equipped to fight them, but it’s simply not the case.

    • @Jdudec367
      @Jdudec367 5 лет назад

      Jensen the Cleric what about in terms of attack speed and health?

    • @dolan3623
      @dolan3623 5 лет назад +5

      @@Jdudec367 in health the turret is better but all it has is rockets for a short duration. The sentry always has rockets and its bullets are as deadly as he said in the video, taking you down in a couple seconds, not to mention the rangler, which increases the sentry fire rate and gives the sentry a major damage resistance, effectively giving the sentry around 600 hp from its 216 hp. And the ability to aim the sentry at long range enemies negates the range advantage the turret had

    • @pokeaust7800
      @pokeaust7800 5 лет назад +1

      Tf2 Sentry: Absurd damage but you can never get it to it’s max potential outside of preparation time without leaving your team down a player
      Overwatch turret: A useful utility that provides decent damage damage practically on demand when you throw it as well as Torbjorn doing major damage to the enemy by himself

  • @pie8863
    @pie8863 5 лет назад +47

    Turret does kind of look generic.

    • @pedrocc2624
      @pedrocc2624 4 года назад +2

      It's a non gatling version of the sentry without a drum ammo box

    • @Choopchoop435
      @Choopchoop435 4 года назад +1

      It dummy thick but it not dummy T H I C C

    • @DoctorPhileasFragg
      @DoctorPhileasFragg 4 года назад

      @@pedrocc2624 The Sentry's design appeal is attention to detail such as a drum ammo box.

    • @Lazar-w9u
      @Lazar-w9u 4 года назад +3

      Whatever game you play, i think we can all agree that overwatches design isn't well thought out or original

  • @shieldphaser
    @shieldphaser 3 года назад +8

    The turret is basically a mini sentry. You plop it down, it deploys quickly and shoots at stuff.

  • @kindertak5396
    @kindertak5396 4 года назад +15

    I feel like the turret is more similar to a mini-sentry

  • @JoyHomfeld
    @JoyHomfeld 5 лет назад +11

    Great video, u explained it very well! :)
    Although the sentry can have unlimited range.
    I think u didn't put the wrangler into this video because it isn't
    really part of the sentry gun. Which is true.

  • @Mint_loll
    @Mint_loll 5 лет назад +18

    Demoman and spy when you talk about the overwatch turret: *visable confusion*

  • @fardass3535
    @fardass3535 5 лет назад +7

    FINNALY! a half decent tf2 vs overwatch comparison!

  • @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus5224
    @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus5224 4 года назад +1

    Name: Torbjörn
    Toofty: tårbjorn

  • @HeyBuddyImAnEngineer
    @HeyBuddyImAnEngineer 4 года назад +3

    overwatch taret: *kills engineer
    also overwatch taret: why i hear boss music?
    tf2 level 3 sentry: n i c e s h o t

    • @footisman2059
      @footisman2059 3 года назад

      Wait, sentry has got voice commands?
      The respawned engineer main: Oh no...
      Turret, spamming E:

  • @slightlytastyburger3809
    @slightlytastyburger3809 5 лет назад +35

    Even the mini sentry is better than the turrent Tf2 best game

    • @thatoneneeko2131
      @thatoneneeko2131 5 лет назад +2

      V1 molten core activates.

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin 5 лет назад +7

      Translation :
      This stationery A.I in tf2 is more annoying than the one in overwatch
      Which makes tf2 better

    • @twinzzlers
      @twinzzlers 4 года назад

      @@SteveOnlin Get good kid, a sentry is nothing if you know what you are doing.

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin 4 года назад

      @@twinzzlers Shut up, Just shut

    • @twinzzlers
      @twinzzlers 4 года назад

      @@SteveOnlin Brilliant response kiddo.

  • @Sploberrie
    @Sploberrie 5 лет назад +5

    After the rework in October, Torb's turret is more similar to a Mini-Sentry.
    And as someone who loves the Gunslinger, I quite like it.

  • @adixhope1323
    @adixhope1323 5 лет назад +14

    Little bit irrelevant to non-overwatch guy but ur comparison needs were fulfilled ;) next up U can top yourself and compare stock vs original rocket launcher.
    Nice approach as always with juicy stats. Keep it up as nice and imaginative as u do.

    • @htlchtlc
      @htlchtlc 5 лет назад

      The changes are minimal, height is the same, but rocket spawns with >7 cm lateral position difference, but converge at the same spot at >1 m distance.
      You have to be tapping the movement keys and shooting at a window to perceive any difference

  • @NafedalbiFilms
    @NafedalbiFilms 4 года назад +2

    1:15
    Thank you. You are a good man.

  • @AlterNate1337
    @AlterNate1337 4 года назад +3

    imagine being in a mech and you get killed by bob the builder's granddaddy

  • @YuainLucky
    @YuainLucky 5 лет назад +4

    The building time of the tf2 sentry depends on your equipment.
    Appart from that, great vid
    》>

  • @darthspam4710
    @darthspam4710 4 года назад +4

    "contributes the majority of the engineers damage"
    *laughs in combat engy*

  • @kalimatronix
    @kalimatronix 4 года назад +3

    10:09 Meanwhile LazyPurple: *I AM THE DEFENCE!!!*

  • @cowwithinternet
    @cowwithinternet 4 года назад +4

    Since I've never played overwatch, I thought by "Overwatch Turret" it meant the combine turrets in HL2

  • @ziomaloiguess
    @ziomaloiguess 5 лет назад +4

    The one thing i see on almost every Tf2 vs overwatch film is that in comments there are almost only Tf2 (ik here that this is Tf2 channel) and almost noone protects the Overwatch. This is the thing i love in TF2, the *COMMUNITY*
    Edit: ... Stupid grammar mistakes

    • @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad
      @I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, that says a lot how Cancerous TF2 Community is.

    • @eh2587
      @eh2587 4 года назад

      @@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad So preferring a game other another is cancerous?

  • @andrasjanosi3765
    @andrasjanosi3765 5 лет назад +6

    The enginer is 1.75 times more handsome!

  • @samseward1374
    @samseward1374 4 года назад +3

    There is a stark contrast of play styles between two characters with similar abilities. Engineer can play passively or actively while Torb almost always is more active due to most of his effectiveness being on his person instead of his building. Says a lot about the nature of both games, I think.

  • @strawberrana
    @strawberrana 5 лет назад +11

    You should've been using lvl 2 sentry for a fair comparison

  • @wyom2838
    @wyom2838 4 года назад +1

    Engie has a dispenser which makes him 2 billion times better than angry dwarf metal man

  • @KelBShobra
    @KelBShobra 3 года назад +1

    Woah haven’t been recommended your channel in a long time youve blown up

  • @kanji20
    @kanji20 4 года назад +3

    The range factor can be thrown out though, due to the fact that the Wrangler greatly increases the sentry guns range

  • @curtisbrown547
    @curtisbrown547 4 года назад +27

    the engineer just feels so much more like a whole package deal vs torb. you get healing, mobility, and area denial all in one class while also not being completely defenseless. meanwhile torb has a tiny little bit of area denial with the turret and has to ult for strong area denial. neither are good but it's undeniable that engineer is just better designed vs torb. torb suffers from the fact the dev team has constantly felt the need to casualize him and dumb him down so that mobility hero's can just run rampant instead of respect his area. not only that but ults just ruin the entire idea of builder classes. whats the point of building up all of these time consuming high value buildings when they're just going to get wiped out during a push anyway? it's why overwatch will never be really all that interesting to me. it's like every class has uber, so the entire game becomes "poke to build Ult, Run in, press Q, whoever presses Q the best wins."

  • @ryang6865
    @ryang6865 5 лет назад +4

    I fell like calculating the mean amount of health out of all the characters in both games would’ve been more accurate. For Tf2 that would be:
    (125+125+125+125+150+175+175+200+300)/9 = 166.667 as the mean for Tf2 health pools.

  • @gothwafflez
    @gothwafflez 4 года назад

    So glad to see a TF2 and Overwatch comparison video that actually reasons for both sides instead of just saying "this one is better cuz I like it more," good work mate

  • @arandomcrusader8822
    @arandomcrusader8822 4 года назад +1

    It's all fun and games until you hear that one hidden Sentry's lock-on sound