It isn't really less known, rather it is somewhat known. It isn't like other wars in Europe and Asia of course, but it was pretty famous or infamous at the time on the war and the 20 years after that war ended.
This is a great Video. A small history lesson on a little known conflict. I bet you're looking for forward to the launch of the F-4E, A-6E, A-7E, F-8 and the MIG-17! The amount of Vietnam reenactments that could be done with those jets.
It isn't little known, it is somewhat known, this was one of the biggest conflicts in Africa in recent history. You are just ignorant, sorry to tell you.
It isn't less known, it is somewhat popular, slightly known. You're just an ignorant person in the Western World. I was too at one point in my life, but no more lol.
"Smaller" when 100k people on each side died and the West was talking about it pretty often. Google it or read a book and stop acting like you know everything when you don't bozo
Now this was a faceoff I have been looking forward to. Never quite knew the circumstances of the engagements but the lack of long ranged R-27ER/T's and inflight data link to compensate for the lost radar definitely hindered the Eritrean Fulcrums. Although their governments inflexibility did them no favors as time passed. Although from ACIG I read that most of the kills were scored with R73's. It's been a while since I read the excerpts though so its probable that that information may be outdated. Certainly a war most never heard of with air combat that's certainly of interest. An excellent depiction of the face off and fighting. I always wanted to mention how much I love your work ever since RUclips recommended your work a few months ago.
Thanks for this elaborate and very positive comment! I also found some older ACIG articles and there's different information. My primary source was Tom Cooper's 'Ethiopian-Eritrean Wars Volume 2 from 2018. Since it is a lot more recent, I figured out that some of the older stories have in the meantime proven to be wrong or simply not confirmed. Glad you like the content, more coming up soon!
Excellent video. Air power is vital to the Ethiopians. I remember discussing this long-lasting conflict with Ethiopian university teachers back in 1979. Between 1978 and 1983 Ethiopia, whose dictator Mengistu was supported by the Soviet Union and its allies, launched six offensives against Eritrea. The Ethiopians I talked to pointed out that they needed a powerful air force because tanks were not effective in mountainous or semi-mountainous terrain.
Thanks! That seems to be true from what I could find about Ethiopian wars. They are one of the nations which emphasize the Air Force and level of that branch seems to be higher than their land army.
Granted, I was born in 1953, but these are the most beautiful fighters ever made!!! Damn, the Russian can't mass produce toasters, but their tanks and jets are unreal!!!
@@jamesbielby3491 the Su-27 has a slight edge in avionic, fuel capacity and missile. The Mig-29 head down display ( the panel on the low right ) is the replication of the HUD. While the Su-27 head down display show a top down view of what in front of the Su-27, so situational awareness favor the Su-27. The Mig-29 was conceived as low-cost short range interceptor primarily for air defense duty while the Su-27 was a true front-line fighter by the time it entered service so advantage will always go with the Su-27
You did and that's what counts. Thanks for the comment. I'm definitely getting the Mirage and doing those conflicts with it. It's been a while since we got a new jet in DCS.
Another very interesting video about a war I didn't know about. Also, at 06:54, did you use a different Mig-29 deploying smoke which you damaged intentionally with an explosion in the air or is it the same Mig-29 that got hit by the Su-27's missle ? Getting hit by a missle and still being able to fly only happened to me in the A10A and both Su-25's in DCS.
Excellent! 😁 It seems impossible to replicate many things form real life in DCS. Such as getting missiles to just damage an airplane. Also, they will never miss as long as you launch them within parameters, (and the target airplane is not pulling 9g and chaffing like mad). So, when I want a radar guided missile to miss. I turn my radar off seconds before impact. That only works for Fox1 though, I don't know what to do with Fox2 and Fox3 😁
@@showtime112 yeah I figured out how you make the FOX1's miss (as long as they aren't already going to impact the plane ballistically), just turn the radar off :)
@@showtime112 I've had both MiG-29s and Su-27s (that I was flying) survive things like AMRAAM hits, but it's pretty uncommon and no doubt not worth the time and effort trying over and over to get it to happen for a video.
It was a historical dogfight because both jets "mig29" and "su27" were the finest and most advanced models of their companies that time,but both were of same airframes because both belongs to russia.keep it up, nice
@@sotirzvanidjubre4109 but they have almost same looks and designs, just like f22 and f35 sukhois and migs are also similar but has a huge difference in their weight.
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This is very interesting. I wonder if the Eritrean and Ethiopian pilots trained together in Russia? In the USAF we train pilots from about 20 or so countries [simultaneously] at Luke AFB in Arizona. I have to wonder if these pilots knew each other?
They were trained in Russia but probably not in the same class. Some of the Eritrean pilots were ex Ethiopian Air Force and could have known their adversaries but I'm not sure if that applies to the four pilots trained for MiG-29.
Another good video! One small complaint: as far as I'm aware the markings for Ethiopian aircraft are incorrect for this time period... It should be the star inside red circle inside yellow circle inside green circle just like part one. The marking here was adopted only a few years ago.
Thanks for commenting. Regarding the insignia, I was getting my info from Tom Cooper's 'Ethiopian-Eritrean Wars Volume 2'. There, he very clearly specifies that this new insignia was introduced in December 1998. There are color aircraft profiles with older types represented in both versions. I couldn't find any photo of a Su-27 with old insignia. Just drawings and 3D models.
At 7:45 sec, you sayed that the sukhoi were flying at supersonic speeds at 6.000 metershigher than the mig-29 or 6.000m alt in general?), what altitute the miG-29 was flying?
You say that the 2 Eritrean pilots were shot down in Mekelle region ( Northern Ethiopia), however, Dejen Andheshel ( the living pilot in diaspora) says that the incidents happened in Badme. Which information is true?
I didn't say that the shootdowns took place in Mekelle region. An Ethiopian Su-27 was on a Combat Air Patrol north of Mekelle and was then vectored to intercept an Eritrean MiG-29.
Did you get a new GPU? That MiG-29 looks beautiful at the beginning. I've always had a liking for Soviet and later Russian aircraft. It gives off a steam punk-ish sorta feel to it. Plus the allure of "bad guy" element a lot of people enjoy.
Hello! Still the same GPU, I'm waiting for the crypto-currency market to crash and bring the prices of graphic card to reasonable levels again 😁 Maybe it's just better editing or filters. I agree that Russian aircraft have a certain level of cool about them. The world of military aviation would be much less interesting without them.
We have recently learner that Ukrainian Mig-29s still have the 1980s radar, which is less powerful than the Russian mig-29 radars as Russia had kept their aircraft somewhat modernised. The Su-27 radar already is more powerful than the mid-29s. So it's very possible that the Su-27 purchased off Russia in the late 90s is far superior to the mig-29s purchased of Ukraine.
At the time of the war, i did read in Air Forces Monthly than the russians deploy in Ethiopia two Kamov Ka-50, the one pilot version......Tom Cooper say something, do you read about it???
Great 2nd part!!! I also know the Internet story about the female pilot. Though I believed it was true😲 I hope you can film some combat about the Cuban Air Expedition Regiment on Angola with their MiG23's against southafrican Mirages F1
Thanks! I definitely intend to cover the F1 vs MiG-23 when we get those modules in DCS. The Mirage should be available soon but MiG-23 will probably wait a bit longer.
Yeah, seems to be. Apparently, the president was micromanaging the war a lot and thinking he knew better that his generals. I think he even fired a chief of staff who disagreed with him about something.
🇪🇹 had support from western nations thats how they got advanced jets they even had Ukrainian mercenaries opertaing their jets . Yet they lost 300k+ soldiers while 🇪🇷 recieving no aids being a recent nation lost 19k and repelled a nation of 80+million ppl from annexing it.
@@HolaBruv why are you lying 300k soldiers didn't die and 19k for Eritrea is funny because we all know it was more than that and Ethiopias population was less than 80 million by the time of this war, stop lying.
@@jhonywalker1168 in Eritrea everything is recorded so each martyr is recorded and his/her family members are given certificates martyrdoom with the name when he joined the army and even his/last day date While Ethiopia until this day never records all it says is if your family members dont returned then they are martyrs.Thats why 19k only was Eritrean martyrs but ethiopia had 300k most of them were even buried by Eritreans videos confirmation are available lots of documentaries exist about thousands of rotten bodies being buried by eritreans. As for population size ethiopia right now its 110 million 2nd largest in africa. While Eritrea is 4-5 million. At that time Eritrea was 3 maximum while 80+ million u cant just leap from 10,20,...50 mil to 110 million unless it was close
Thank you for the comment. The current events will be in the focus at some point. Currently, it is very hard to find precise and confirmed information but I'll observe the situation.
Yes the R-27 is that unreliable, apparently its like the old sparrow where the shooter has to keep the target locked until it hits. The very last models were fire and forget but not back here. Imteresting conflict
Not yet. There's the Falklands map being developed for DCS so I'm waiting for it to be released. It's not just the map but it will include many assets from that war, especially ships.
Some of them did actually fly., but in a more defensive role. Apparently, one Russian Mi-24 pilot was captured by Eritreans. But as for these direct encounters, it seems they were flown by actual Ethiopians and Eritreans.
My Great Uncle was Leutnant General in Nova Gradiska '91-96. I also have high ranking Uncle '99 in the Serbian family. I spoke wit both & they told me, the MIG-29 is made to dogfight. U wait for the enemy to come close, idealy position ur 29 behind a mountain & fly straigh up, forcing the enemy into a dogfight. If 29 is used at BVR: useless.
@@showtime112 even Serbs did the same. Thy saw a pair of enemy jets & went to face them. I was told privately it was to send Serb soldiers on the ground & the enemy the same message: Air Force is flying no matter the odds. But why not do it right. They cud place the robust 29 on roads. Arm it with 2 short range AAM. Wait for the enemy to appear directly above the MIG & shoot up like a dart. Fire & disappear.
@@showtime112 I think thats gons be Russias tactic in a show down vs NATO. "Hide" MIG 29/35. Face the enemy with a SU-X, even the newest MIG-31. At the right time order the MIG29s to fly up straight & squeez the enemy front & underneath. Maybe let the 29/35 fly slightly up & behing them, to avoid fleeing. Its such a great weapon for dog fighting. Forget long range radar for 29&35. The intended role is perfeft & has no equal.
AA missiles seems to be realy realy unreliable, the age, the handling is a factor, and they are complex. DCS is not even close to irl, in DCS ppl just launch 10s of missiles like its free and every missile works. Even Aim9/AMRAAM In Syria failed a while back.
I am impressed by how well Eritrea did in that war being 4 years old country at that time their economy wasn't even that good I mean their GDP was 688.9 million USD at that time, and Ethiopian had every advantage to annihilate Eritrea's military but that didn't happen. the way I see it the war was useless Eritrea lost over 19,000 of it soldiers and Ethiopia lost 2 billion dollars and over 123,000 of its soldiers only the court to rule Badme belonged to Eritrea which was the main point of the war.
Basically, there should always be a better way than starting a war. I wonder how the court would have ruled had there never been a war between them. And would there have been a court to decide it.
Eritrean government's report of a total of 19,000 Eritrean soldiers dead is false. Both Ethiopia and Eritrea suffered over a 100,000 dead. Eritrea had lost this war, even though Badme was recognized as Eritrean territory, it was still unfortunately under Ethiopian control until November 2020 when the Tigray War broke out. It was a senseless war but still a humiliating defeat for Eritrea.
@@drjacob2276 the 19,000 is not wrong, go read the UN article, the government of Eritrea pays the parent who lost their sons in the war and based on that they confirmed 19,000 soldiers who died second I never said Eritrea win the war I said the court give Badme to Eritrea based the 1882 borderline and since the war was about Badme Eritrea basically win for Eritrea because those sacrifices were for noting, and about Tigray war, I don't think Eritreain got a humiliating defeat first because they were supporting Ethiopian force second when Ethiopian had full control of Tigray and when they were leaving Tigray region Eritrean force were celebrating I can send you the videos if you want it is in Ethiopian channels. it seems though your comments are from the Western media while mine is from both countries' media and the UN.
Ertira took one of the largest ammunition depot when they left Ethiopia, and a big part of the Ethiopian calvery That's why they managed to fight that long but over all Ethiopia didn't have a functioning army at the time too
You need to know the whole story! Eritrea gain independence because Ethiopian government were overthrown and crippled by the Eritrean government now but earlier was a rabble in Ethiopia. Rabbles fought each other over the benefits! there wasn't any regular army at time. In Ethiopia side farmers lost their life in mass!
I know that's the hot new topic but it's probably not gonna happen before the end of the war. Detailed and reliable info is hard to find so any video would be 90% guesswork.
There probably wouldn't have been any direct conflict if you mean the current situation. Ukraine would almost certainly avoid using their air force much, similar to Georgians in 2008.
Nisam točno brojao ali dosta. Ispaljivali su ih s maksimalne udaljenosti a vjerojatno su bile iz nekih starijih zaliha. U nekim slučajevima, nisu ih ni uspjeli ispaliti ali to se masovno događalo i američkim F-15 u Pustinjskoj oluji.
Su-27 is generally somewhat more capable but if I remember well, they carried extended range missiles while the MiGs had the 'ordinary' ones. That gave the Sukhois a significant advantage in battles where the pilots were mostly shooting missiles from max range.
My country used to have MiG-29s armed with R-27 missiles, those pilots were either complete idiots or those missiles are as good as jettisoned fuel tank.
I'm guessing, Ethiopians had R-27ER missiles while Eritreans only had shorter range R-27R. Also, that destruction of Eritrean radar station played a big role because they were lacking situational awareness after that.
I'm still wondering where did Showtime 112 get this info from. These 2 videos not only undermine the work of Eritrean airforce but lacks objectivity and its completely biased.These 2 videos exaggerate the work of Ethiopian airforce despite their many years existence. As an Eritrean I was exasperated to see that the operation carried by the renowned pilot Commander Tesfatsion in retaliation for Ethiopian airforce offence in Asmara were not well presented as his bravery and mission in annihilating the Mekele airport along with the fighter jets ain't well articulated in these videos too.The Eritrean pilots Captain Yonas and Captain Samuel didn't die in air to air combat but rather by the missiles shot from the antiaircraft. Moreover, the Ethiopian air force suffered substantial damage in our 30 years and long fought struggle for our independence. Honestly speaking the Ethiopian airforce is not that competent. Otherwise our independence wouldn't be achieved if you think that the Ethiopian airforce was that strong in helping the ground offence when the Eritreans had at that time neither the airforce nor the sovereignty .But if you say that the Ethiopian public airlines has been doing exceptional work I couldn't agree more.
Dejen himself is saying that he and Yonas been attacked by ground missile batteries in his interviews and of course in the last battles of the war there was a push by Ethiopian troops so that makes you say that the Ethiopian Air force had upper hand on the skies. Since the war was held for two years, I find it difficult to understand in demonstrating that both sides had intensive battle to take Air space superiority in this period of time but regarding the last part of the war in May 12 to June 14 of the year 2000 mainly known 3rd Ethiopian offensive, it doesn't show the Eritrean resistance. I agree that the Ethiopian side had better experience, gear and apparatus. With all advantages what makes the Ethiopian fighter jets scare the Eritrean space for two years indeed topped casualties and losses.
Well, they were mostly fired from maximum range and often against low level targets. R-27 is the Russian Sparrow. Even late model Sparrows were quite unreliable in Desert Storm for example.
@@showtime112 R27's radar was bad and the scan FPS is too low to track targets and always missing target if get close. And this missile is too big and the drag makes it loosing speed very quickly. This misslie was designed to kill bombers, not fighters. And China Air Force said tha even R77 still hard to track a mobile target like fighters.
There are many external factors. They had shorter range missiles and Eritrean side lost a lot of situational awareness after the loss of that ground radar.
These are biased and narrated from Ethiopia side. You don't mentioned the Air combat 1999 when Ethiopian MiG 27 hit on the Western front by Eritrean pilot and the Mig 23 and 21 Ethiopia lost by anti Aircraft Missiles and the Helicopters destroyed and one when hit by anti Air craft the Ethiopian pilot landed and escaped, but you didn't mentioned. Why don't write the history as it is why from one side. And I am suspicious about the one pilot you are mentioning who is from Tigrai TPLF.
And another 'you are biased because my country wasn't depicted awesomely enough' comment. If I had a dollar for each one, I wouldn't exactly be rich but I'd have a couple of hundred dollars more 🤣
@@showtime112 Don't mind these clowns 😂. Eritrea's government basically tries to rewrite history to conceal its humiliating defeat in this war by making up fictitious victories and trying to make it seem that Eritrea won the war. Eritreans always get butthurt when they realize how poorly their country did in the war. This chauvinism is all because of Eritrea's victory in its war of independence, which consequently gave a chauvinistic image of Eritrea that made it look like it was unbeatable and a force to be reckoned with.
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14:55 Correction. The airplane in question is of course, Su-25T and not Su-27T as mentioned in the video.
SU 27
It was SU 27
That's why The Ethiopian airforce Motto is "The sky is ours"
Air Superiority is not for all This is my message For Egyptians and Somalians
egypt is waaay superior in the air than ethiopia.
i was eagerly waiting for this one. thanks bud for covering up less known but quite interesting conflicts.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@@showtime112 hey man , do u have your discord server?
@@Deadpool-rw1pk No. It is in my long term 'to do' list. It's been there for a while 😁
@@showtime112 🤣
It isn't really less known, rather it is somewhat known. It isn't like other wars in Europe and Asia of course, but it was pretty famous or infamous at the time on the war and the 20 years after that war ended.
This is a great Video. A small history lesson on a little known conflict. I bet you're looking for forward to the launch of the F-4E, A-6E, A-7E, F-8 and the MIG-17! The amount of Vietnam reenactments that could be done with those jets.
Thanks! I'm very much excited about all those modules. It's been a while since they released a new jet aircraft in DCS.
@@showtime112 Almost forgot that the MIG-23, Mirage F1 and the F-15E, some good planes coming to DCS. Fingers crossed for the MIG-29 and Eurofighter!
It isn't little known, it is somewhat known, this was one of the biggest conflicts in Africa in recent history. You are just ignorant, sorry to tell you.
It was not a small conflict
@@dandomtyvy2222he said it’s a little known conflict, not a small one.
Yet another classic video, of less known conflicts. Only at showtime112 , keep going bro...
I intend to! Thanks for the feedback and support!
It isn't less known, it is somewhat popular, slightly known. You're just an ignorant person in the Western World. I was too at one point in my life, but no more lol.
Always cool to hear about these smaller conflicts.
Small conflict!!? Google it… and let’s see how small u think it was!!
@@temesgengebresilassi4698 i think he meant less popular conflicts.
@@Deadpool-rw1pk exactly. It just isn't talked about as much.
Thanks! I thought it deserved some attention.
"Smaller" when 100k people on each side died and the West was talking about it pretty often. Google it or read a book and stop acting like you know everything when you don't bozo
Now this was a faceoff I have been looking forward to. Never quite knew the circumstances of the engagements but the lack of long ranged R-27ER/T's and inflight data link to compensate for the lost radar definitely hindered the Eritrean Fulcrums. Although their governments inflexibility did them no favors as time passed.
Although from ACIG I read that most of the kills were scored with R73's. It's been a while since I read the excerpts though so its probable that that information may be outdated.
Certainly a war most never heard of with air combat that's certainly of interest.
An excellent depiction of the face off and fighting. I always wanted to mention how much I love your work ever since RUclips recommended your work a few months ago.
Thanks for this elaborate and very positive comment! I also found some older ACIG articles and there's different information. My primary source was Tom Cooper's 'Ethiopian-Eritrean Wars Volume 2 from 2018. Since it is a lot more recent, I figured out that some of the older stories have in the meantime proven to be wrong or simply not confirmed.
Glad you like the content, more coming up soon!
Excellent video.
Air power is vital to the Ethiopians.
I remember discussing this long-lasting conflict with Ethiopian university teachers back in 1979.
Between 1978 and 1983 Ethiopia, whose dictator Mengistu was supported by the Soviet Union and its allies, launched six offensives against Eritrea. The Ethiopians I talked to pointed out that they needed a powerful air force because tanks were not effective in mountainous or semi-mountainous terrain.
Thanks! That seems to be true from what I could find about Ethiopian wars. They are one of the nations which emphasize the Air Force and level of that branch seems to be higher than their land army.
@@showtime112 A lot of Ethiopian air force pliots end up joining Ethiopian Airlines!
The Su 27 is a beast. I’ve seen one up close from the Russian AF. They are huge.
The Russian interpretation of F-15. The entire family is the synonym for a Russian fighter. What MiG used to be.
I was an F-15 mechanic and the Russians toured America and stopped at my base. 30 degrees Celsius and the Russians wore wool uniforms.
@@Mrbumbons1 You would expect the opposite from someone used to cold climate. Maybe it was just poor weather intelligence on their side 😁😁
Sweated the vodka right out of them.
It's saturday and there is a new showtime video... Perfect👍
I'm glad I've helped with your Saturday 😁
@@showtime112 absolutely 💯👍
Granted, I was born in 1953, but these are the most beautiful fighters ever made!!! Damn, the Russian can't mass produce toasters, but their tanks and jets are unreal!!!
That's because they put 90% of their efforts into design and production of weapons 🤣
Once again a great video, I was lucky to discover the lovely Su-27 and MiG-29 at Le Bourget 1989
I'm glad you liked it! Once I start making serious bucks from the channel, I'll start visiting these shows too :)
Interesting. So the Sukhoi Su-27 is proven in combat. I never knew that. And it definitely proved its capabilities in air superiority.
It's not widely known. The Su-27 had a slight edge over the MiG-29 here. It seems it was mostly in better missiles.
@@showtime112 Wasn't the Su-27 more sophisticated than the MiG-29?
@@jamesbielby3491 To an extent, yes. It has a greater range and it can carry more missiles. But their radars and avionics are almost the same.
@@showtime112 Радары разные, ракеты одинаковые.
@@jamesbielby3491 the Su-27 has a slight edge in avionic, fuel capacity and missile. The Mig-29 head down display ( the panel on the low right ) is the replication of the HUD. While the Su-27 head down display show a top down view of what in front of the Su-27, so situational awareness favor the Su-27. The Mig-29 was conceived as low-cost short range interceptor primarily for air defense duty while the Su-27 was a true front-line fighter by the time it entered service so advantage will always go with the Su-27
Ethiopian air force have been always superior than others!
I don't know, but it's seems to me we are kinda born to fly. Ethiopians 🇪🇹
Finally had time to seat and watch the video, another cool one, can't wait to see you flying with the Mirage F1 in Iraq, South Africa or Chad!
You did and that's what counts. Thanks for the comment. I'm definitely getting the Mirage and doing those conflicts with it. It's been a while since we got a new jet in DCS.
Very nice. I've read about this air engagements, well done 👍🏼
Glad you liked it, thanks!
Hey @M1TGLIED can you tell me.where you read of this. I am.very interested to read about it. Thank you buddy
@@efremberhane422 Most info comes from Tom Cooper's 'Ethiopian-Etitrean Wars Volume 2. There's the link in video description.
Another very interesting video about a war I didn't know about. Also, at 06:54, did you use a different Mig-29 deploying smoke which you damaged intentionally with an explosion in the air or is it the same Mig-29 that got hit by the Su-27's missle ? Getting hit by a missle and still being able to fly only happened to me in the A10A and both Su-25's in DCS.
Excellent! 😁 It seems impossible to replicate many things form real life in DCS. Such as getting missiles to just damage an airplane. Also, they will never miss as long as you launch them within parameters, (and the target airplane is not pulling 9g and chaffing like mad). So, when I want a radar guided missile to miss. I turn my radar off seconds before impact. That only works for Fox1 though, I don't know what to do with Fox2 and Fox3 😁
@@showtime112 yeah I figured out how you make the FOX1's miss (as long as they aren't already going to impact the plane ballistically), just turn the radar off :)
@@showtime112 I've had both MiG-29s and Su-27s (that I was flying) survive things like AMRAAM hits, but it's pretty uncommon and no doubt not worth the time and effort trying over and over to get it to happen for a video.
It was a historical dogfight because both jets "mig29" and "su27" were the finest and most advanced models of their companies that time,but both were of same airframes because both belongs to russia.keep it up, nice
Thanks for the feedback, more content on the way
Sukhoi is like 20+% bigger, with longer range radar and missiles due to different role. And was kinda more advanced to begin with.
@@sotirzvanidjubre4109 but they have almost same looks and designs, just like f22 and f35 sukhois and migs are also similar but has a huge difference in their weight.
How can they airframes be the same, if even their fuselages are of different shape?
@@vadimpm1290 my bad, i meant same appearance like twin engine with twin rudders.
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Thanks a lot for your subscription! It's always great to meet a viewer who likes what you do.
This is very interesting. I wonder if the Eritrean and Ethiopian pilots trained together in Russia? In the USAF we train pilots from about 20 or so countries [simultaneously] at Luke AFB in Arizona. I have to wonder if these pilots knew each other?
Iv see some data shows that pilots were from Ukraine and Russia air force.
They were trained in Russia but probably not in the same class. Some of the Eritrean pilots were ex Ethiopian Air Force and could have known their adversaries but I'm not sure if that applies to the four pilots trained for MiG-29.
both commanders used to be in the old derg regime.
Keep up the great work, I find these very entertaining
I sure will, keep watching!
Thanks for this historical video, unfortunately not many people, inlcuding myself, are aware of this tragic war. Greetings from Mexico City.
True, not many people know this even happened. Let alone any details.
Well done again. Looking forward to the next installment.
Thanks for the support! I appreciate it.
Another good video! One small complaint: as far as I'm aware the markings for Ethiopian aircraft are incorrect for this time period... It should be the star inside red circle inside yellow circle inside green circle just like part one. The marking here was adopted only a few years ago.
Thanks for commenting. Regarding the insignia, I was getting my info from Tom Cooper's 'Ethiopian-Eritrean Wars Volume 2'. There, he very clearly specifies that this new insignia was introduced in December 1998. There are color aircraft profiles with older types represented in both versions. I couldn't find any photo of a Su-27 with old insignia. Just drawings and 3D models.
New to the channel loving the content so far and enjoying the history
Welcome! I hope you keep enjoying the content.
@@showtime112 slowly creeping. Though all the back catalogue lmfao
Only known combat experience of the sukhoi 27. This video was really expected!!
I'm glad I could help :)
excellent overview and well produced.
Glad you liked it!
showtime112, always good, always on point
Glad you think so, that is the objective!
That 29 missile in the face in the last engagement gave quite a jump scare 😅😅😅👍 good job...
Those things can be hard to see 😁 Thanks for the comment!
Great video production and content.
Thanks, I appreciate it!
At 7:45 sec, you sayed that the sukhoi were flying at supersonic speeds at 6.000 metershigher than the mig-29 or 6.000m alt in general?), what altitute the miG-29 was flying?
You say that the 2 Eritrean pilots were shot down in Mekelle region ( Northern Ethiopia), however, Dejen Andheshel ( the living pilot in diaspora) says that the incidents happened in Badme. Which information is true?
I didn't say that the shootdowns took place in Mekelle region. An Ethiopian Su-27 was on a Combat Air Patrol north of Mekelle and was then vectored to intercept an Eritrean MiG-29.
It occurred in Badme area. It was well known for us people who were around.
Did you get a new GPU? That MiG-29 looks beautiful at the beginning. I've always had a liking for Soviet and later Russian aircraft. It gives off a steam punk-ish sorta feel to it. Plus the allure of "bad guy" element a lot of people enjoy.
Hello! Still the same GPU, I'm waiting for the crypto-currency market to crash and bring the prices of graphic card to reasonable levels again 😁 Maybe it's just better editing or filters.
I agree that Russian aircraft have a certain level of cool about them. The world of military aviation would be much less interesting without them.
@@showtime112 it crashed BIG :)
Good stuff to enjoy, thank you for this.
And thank you for enjoying the content!
@@showtime112 no problem.
Svaka cast na kanalu i na klipovima veliki pozdrav iz Beograda samo tako nastavi ovaj kanal je najbolji najbolji
Puno hvala na podršci! Nastavljamo dalje u istom stilu :)
I remember the supersonic SU 27 shuttered many windows in Asmara. It is with super heavy sound
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Interesting. A conflict you don't hear too much about.
Yeah. Two poor counties, no oil.
We have recently learner that Ukrainian Mig-29s still have the 1980s radar, which is less powerful than the Russian mig-29 radars as Russia had kept their aircraft somewhat modernised. The Su-27 radar already is more powerful than the mid-29s.
So it's very possible that the Su-27 purchased off Russia in the late 90s is far superior to the mig-29s purchased of Ukraine.
It seems that the main advantage for the Ethiopians were ER missiles with longer range than the ones Eritreans had.
Sad to see our family fighting against each other but so is the business of war...
It's a rare occurrence 😁
At the time of the war, i did read in Air Forces Monthly than the russians deploy in Ethiopia two Kamov Ka-50, the one pilot version......Tom Cooper say something, do you read about it???
There's no specific mention of it in the book. I suppose he couldn't find any confirmation or perhaps found evidence that it never happened.
@@showtime112 Even at the time i did have serious doubts.....perhaps a "Urban Legend".
"Give me a Fulcrum, and I will move the whole world!" -Aristotle
I guess Eritreans never read Aristotle 😁
Great 2nd part!!! I also know the Internet story about the female pilot. Though I believed it was true😲 I hope you can film some combat about the Cuban Air Expedition Regiment on Angola with their MiG23's against southafrican Mirages F1
Thanks! I definitely intend to cover the F1 vs MiG-23 when we get those modules in DCS. The Mirage should be available soon but MiG-23 will probably wait a bit longer.
@@showtime112 yeah man thatd be cool. Hehe maybe you can do a test on Thirdwires SF2. Though I know that combat sim is kinda arcade.
Wow, government non-adaptivity and political myopia, combined with themselves suffering no consequences for their actions is a thing in Eritrea too.
Yeah, seems to be. Apparently, the president was micromanaging the war a lot and thinking he knew better that his generals. I think he even fired a chief of staff who disagreed with him about something.
🇪🇹 had support from western nations thats how they got advanced jets they even had Ukrainian mercenaries opertaing their jets . Yet they lost 300k+ soldiers while 🇪🇷 recieving no aids being a recent nation lost 19k and repelled a nation of 80+million ppl from annexing it.
@@HolaBruv why are you lying 300k soldiers didn't die and 19k for Eritrea is funny because we all know it was more than that and Ethiopias population was less than 80 million by the time of this war, stop lying.
@@jhonywalker1168 in Eritrea everything is recorded so each martyr is recorded and his/her family members are given certificates martyrdoom with the name when he joined the army and even his/last day date
While Ethiopia until this day never records all it says is if your family members dont returned then they are martyrs.Thats why 19k only was Eritrean martyrs but ethiopia had 300k most of them were even buried by Eritreans videos confirmation are available lots of documentaries exist about thousands of rotten bodies being buried by eritreans.
As for population size ethiopia right now its 110 million 2nd largest in africa. While Eritrea is 4-5 million.
At that time Eritrea was 3 maximum while 80+ million u cant just leap from 10,20,...50 mil to 110 million unless it was close
Looks like you'll have plenty of future content after today
24/02/22
Unfortunately, yes.
Ammaizing documentary/////// and Assab port is given to Ethiopia. I would be happy if you weren't forget it.......
I ask for it..........i have it!!!!!!!..............Thanks Showtime!!!!!!!!
How could I say no to that? 😁
At any point, when it's going to end. Could you do one of the operations of the russo-ukraine war? Also great video
Thank you for the comment. The current events will be in the focus at some point. Currently, it is very hard to find precise and confirmed information but I'll observe the situation.
Yes the R-27 is that unreliable, apparently its like the old sparrow where the shooter has to keep the target locked until it hits. The very last models were fire and forget but not back here. Imteresting conflict
It seems that both sides were launching them from maximum range and missiles tend to be less reliable under such conditions.
pls post video of ethiopian female su-27 pilot shoot down his master's mig 29
That story is quite questionable. In the book about this conflict by Tom Cooper, there's no mention of it.
Still wonder what happens after landing...
Have ever create a video about Falkland war ...there was definitely a lot of fighter jet action there .
Not yet. There's the Falklands map being developed for DCS so I'm waiting for it to be released. It's not just the map but it will include many assets from that war, especially ships.
@@showtime112 that would be great 👍👍
Wasn't there some speculation that this was Russian v Ukraine pilots?
Some of them did actually fly., but in a more defensive role. Apparently, one Russian Mi-24 pilot was captured by Eritreans. But as for these direct encounters, it seems they were flown by actual Ethiopians and Eritreans.
My Great Uncle was Leutnant General in Nova Gradiska '91-96. I also have high ranking Uncle '99 in the Serbian family. I spoke wit both & they told me, the MIG-29 is made to dogfight. U wait for the enemy to come close, idealy position ur 29 behind a mountain & fly straigh up, forcing the enemy into a dogfight. If 29 is used at BVR: useless.
Yes, the 29 is much better at close range. It seems like Eritrean pilots lacked sufficient training to employ their aircraft that way.
@@showtime112 even Serbs did the same. Thy saw a pair of enemy jets & went to face them. I was told privately it was to send Serb soldiers on the ground & the enemy the same message: Air Force is flying no matter the odds. But why not do it right. They cud place the robust 29 on roads. Arm it with 2 short range AAM. Wait for the enemy to appear directly above the MIG & shoot up like a dart. Fire & disappear.
@@showtime112 I think thats gons be Russias tactic in a show down vs NATO. "Hide" MIG 29/35. Face the enemy with a SU-X, even the newest MIG-31. At the right time order the MIG29s to fly up straight & squeez the enemy front & underneath. Maybe let the 29/35 fly slightly up & behing them, to avoid fleeing. Its such a great weapon for dog fighting. Forget long range radar for 29&35. The intended role is perfeft & has no equal.
Are these AA missiles soo unreliable, as they failed to hit even though the migs didnt deploy countermeasures.
They might have used countermeasures. Exact details are unknown. But yes, in reality missiles are far less effective than in simulations.
AA missiles seems to be realy realy unreliable, the age, the handling is a factor, and they are complex. DCS is not even close to irl, in DCS ppl just launch 10s of missiles like its free and every missile works.
Even Aim9/AMRAAM In Syria failed a while back.
Some thing is smoking in your explanation .with all the respeckt please correct it with what realy happened.
And what would that be exactly?
I am impressed by how well Eritrea did in that war being 4 years old country at that time their economy wasn't even that good I mean their GDP was 688.9 million USD at that time, and Ethiopian had every advantage to annihilate Eritrea's military but that didn't happen. the way I see it the war was useless Eritrea lost over 19,000 of it soldiers and Ethiopia lost 2 billion dollars and over 123,000 of its soldiers only the court to rule Badme belonged to Eritrea which was the main point of the war.
Basically, there should always be a better way than starting a war. I wonder how the court would have ruled had there never been a war between them. And would there have been a court to decide it.
Eritrean government's report of a total of 19,000 Eritrean soldiers dead is false. Both Ethiopia and Eritrea suffered over a 100,000 dead. Eritrea had lost this war, even though Badme was recognized as Eritrean territory, it was still unfortunately under Ethiopian control until November 2020 when the Tigray War broke out. It was a senseless war but still a humiliating defeat for Eritrea.
@@drjacob2276 the 19,000 is not wrong, go read the UN article, the government of Eritrea pays the parent who lost their sons in the war and based on that they confirmed 19,000 soldiers who died second I never said Eritrea win the war I said the court give Badme to Eritrea based the 1882 borderline and since the war was about Badme Eritrea basically win for Eritrea because those sacrifices were for noting, and about Tigray war, I don't think Eritreain got a humiliating defeat first because they were supporting Ethiopian force second when Ethiopian had full control of Tigray and when they were leaving Tigray region Eritrean force were celebrating I can send you the videos if you want it is in Ethiopian channels. it seems though your comments are from the Western media while mine is from both countries' media and the UN.
Ertira took one of the largest ammunition depot when they left Ethiopia, and a big part of the Ethiopian calvery
That's why they managed to fight that long but over all Ethiopia didn't have a functioning army at the time too
You need to know the whole story! Eritrea gain independence because Ethiopian government were overthrown and crippled by the Eritrean government now but earlier was a rabble in Ethiopia. Rabbles fought each other over the benefits! there wasn't any regular army at time. In Ethiopia side farmers lost their life in mass!
I hope you would consider doing a video on Turkey's 1974 invasion of Cyprus.
I did one which covers a specific event from it (sinking of Turkish destroyer Kocatepe). Problem is with limited aircraft resources in DCS,
82ND AIRBORNE
Mig 29's...Sexy.
Oh shit!! I just rewatched this vid!!
Again you with that rewatching :)
Did MiG 29 achieved any air to air kill in this war?
2 Su-27 damaged but not down. R60 missile's warhead sucks and the fuel of MiG-29 sucks.
The mig 29 did get 3 kills in this war.
Spoiler alert! No 😁
Please create a scenario for latest Ukraine Russia war
I know that's the hot new topic but it's probably not gonna happen before the end of the war. Detailed and reliable info is hard to find so any video would be 90% guesswork.
in this war both side fly russian fighters(mig,sukhoi and other war material).
True. A bit rare unless both nations are ex-Soviet Union.
Would like to see more 4th gen battles
They are interesting. Although not so numerous compared to some older fighters. Thanks for your suggestion!
Russian Air Force v/s Ukrainian Air Force could have been an interesting subject 🤔
There probably wouldn't have been any direct conflict if you mean the current situation. Ukraine would almost certainly avoid using their air force much, similar to Georgians in 2008.
It actually happned in ethiopian-eritriean war. The Su-27 was piloted by russians and the mig 29 was piloted by ukrainians.
These are interesting video games ! I like them very much 😂
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koliko je ovdje raketa otišlo u vjetar? ;(
Nisam točno brojao ali dosta. Ispaljivali su ih s maksimalne udaljenosti a vjerojatno su bile iz nekih starijih zaliha. U nekim slučajevima, nisu ih ni uspjeli ispaliti ali to se masovno događalo i američkim F-15 u Pustinjskoj oluji.
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If you want to avoid an incident?? Don't Fing Fly!! YEEEEEHAW!!
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Zasad tajna 😁
Just wait until Eritreans/Ethiopians find this video. It will be another war in the comments 😂
That is possible. But they can't be as bad as Indians and Pakistanis 😁😁😁
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Dude before the way you send this video you need to, dig more info that been missed in the show
Such as what?
@@showtime112 Ask more specification special to the eritrean air force
The story is not accurate though.
Does this mean Sukhois are better than migs?
Su-27 is generally somewhat more capable but if I remember well, they carried extended range missiles while the MiGs had the 'ordinary' ones. That gave the Sukhois a significant advantage in battles where the pilots were mostly shooting missiles from max range.
Amazing Ethiopia❤
Both side using mercenary pilots.
Sell all your aircraft if you can't hang with the Ethiopian Air Forces...lol
My country used to have MiG-29s armed with R-27 missiles, those pilots were either complete idiots or those missiles are as good as jettisoned fuel tank.
They were not really complete idiots but rather, only received the most basic training.
@@showtime112 I'd have to think firing these missiles requires little training, but I guess they might've received even less.
This was repeated yesterday over Kiev, the Mig-29 won , than shot down 5 more Russian Jets
The Ghost of Kyiv. Sounds like an amazing story but I'm afraid, it is not very likely.
@@showtime112 I agree..
Curious to see what an acm engagement between African nations would look like, using aircraft designed and built by the respective countries.
That takes some imagination :)
Why don’t they eject ?
Generally, when pilots don't eject it means they are already dead or seriously injured.
Etiopija zbilja ima MSTA-S?
Nabavili su 12 komada nakon prve faze rata, potkraj 1998.
Why not ?
Is the Su-27 that superior to the mig-29 or it was more a training difference.
ALL because the R60 missile cant damage targets. MiG-29 is much more better than Su-27.
I'm guessing, Ethiopians had R-27ER missiles while Eritreans only had shorter range R-27R. Also, that destruction of Eritrean radar station played a big role because they were lacking situational awareness after that.
ER/ETs have longer range then R variant of R27. He who shoots first always has the advantage.
@@TheGranicd That seems to have been a huge factor.
The SU-27 always was superior to the MiG-29 by design!
The Ethiopian airforce was a mercenaries. Was not gebresselasie
Am an Eritrean and am a free man . My parents died so that I can leave. full price paid
I'm still wondering where did Showtime 112 get this info from. These 2 videos not only undermine the work of Eritrean airforce but lacks objectivity and its completely biased.These 2 videos exaggerate the work of Ethiopian airforce despite their many years existence. As an Eritrean I was exasperated to see that the operation carried by the renowned pilot Commander Tesfatsion in retaliation for Ethiopian airforce offence in Asmara were not well presented as his bravery and mission in annihilating the Mekele airport along with the fighter jets ain't well articulated in these videos too.The Eritrean pilots Captain Yonas and Captain Samuel didn't die in air to air combat but rather by the missiles shot from the antiaircraft. Moreover, the Ethiopian air force suffered substantial damage in our 30 years and long fought struggle for our independence. Honestly speaking the Ethiopian airforce is not that competent. Otherwise our independence wouldn't be achieved if you think that the Ethiopian airforce was that strong in helping the ground offence when the Eritreans had at that time neither the airforce nor the sovereignty .But if you say that the Ethiopian public airlines has been doing exceptional work I couldn't agree more.
Sources are always listed in the video description. What are your sources?
Dejen himself is saying that he and Yonas been attacked by ground missile batteries in his interviews and of course in the last battles of the war there was a push by Ethiopian troops so that makes you say that the Ethiopian Air force had upper hand on the skies. Since the war was held for two years, I find it difficult to understand in demonstrating that both sides had intensive battle to take Air space superiority in this period of time but regarding the last part of the war in May 12 to June 14 of the year 2000 mainly known 3rd Ethiopian offensive, it doesn't show the Eritrean resistance. I agree that the Ethiopian side had better experience, gear and apparatus. With all advantages what makes the Ethiopian fighter jets scare the Eritrean space for two years indeed topped casualties and losses.
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Moral of the story- russian missiles are crap
Well, they were mostly fired from maximum range and often against low level targets. R-27 is the Russian Sparrow. Even late model Sparrows were quite unreliable in Desert Storm for example.
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Ethiopia ace
Ogaden war
7 kills
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R27 fireworks lol
It seems they weren't saving them much 😁
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sad for Eritrea they didn't even shotdown a single fighter jet
Do you know what makes me laugh and kills me how could Ethiopia require su-27 and it's a starving country😋😋😋😋😋😋 MasterChef LOL LMAO
It's all about priorities. The regime obviously thought having a strong military was more important.
Zašto je R-27 imao tako nisku efikasnost
Uglavnom su ih ispaljivali s maksimalne udaljenosti. A sva oprema je bila rabljena i vjerojatno su im prodavali najstarije zalihe.
@@showtime112 R27's radar was bad and the scan FPS is too low to track targets and always missing target if get close. And this missile is too big and the drag makes it loosing speed very quickly. This misslie was designed to kill bombers, not fighters.
And China Air Force said tha even R77 still hard to track a mobile target like fighters.
Aster did score that victory you just wont admit it cause shes a woman
Apparently, mig29's are great sitting ducks.
There are many external factors. They had shorter range missiles and Eritrean side lost a lot of situational awareness after the loss of that ground radar.
These are biased and narrated from Ethiopia side. You don't mentioned the Air combat 1999 when Ethiopian MiG 27 hit on the Western front by Eritrean pilot and the Mig 23 and 21 Ethiopia lost by anti Aircraft Missiles and the Helicopters destroyed and one when hit by anti Air craft the Ethiopian pilot landed and escaped, but you didn't mentioned.
Why don't write the history as it is why from one side. And I am suspicious about the one pilot you are mentioning who is from Tigrai TPLF.
And another 'you are biased because my country wasn't depicted awesomely enough' comment. If I had a dollar for each one, I wouldn't exactly be rich but I'd have a couple of hundred dollars more 🤣
@@showtime112 Don't mind these clowns 😂. Eritrea's government basically tries to rewrite history to conceal its humiliating defeat in this war by making up fictitious victories and trying to make it seem that Eritrea won the war. Eritreans always get butthurt when they realize how poorly their country did in the war. This chauvinism is all because of Eritrea's victory in its war of independence, which consequently gave a chauvinistic image of Eritrea that made it look like it was unbeatable and a force to be reckoned with.
Fake
Your arguments are unquestionably strong. Ware you in the debate team at your school? 😁
All video is fouls .
Present some arguments or I'm banning you.
@@showtime112 These are just Eritrean chauvinist fools, my friend. Ignore them.
this is wrong 3thiopia nevwr defit eritrea
Not a single tactical battle? Not a single soldier was killed, not a single tank lost? Right...
go and cry with baba Esayas haha
lol, then why the disputed territories were under Ethiopia until 2018? then Ethiopia gave it in the hopes of reconciliation.