How Pakistani F-16s Shot Down Russian Vice President

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
  • During the Soviet military involvement in Afghanistan, their aircraft would sometimes attack Mujahideen bases in Pakistani territory. Initially, Pakistan couldn't prevent those intrusions because it lacked modern fighter aircraft. But they managed to convince USA to sell them F-16, a state of the art fighter airplane. First results came in 1986. when F-16s shot down two Su-22s of Democratic Republic of Afghanistan. The first Soviet aircraft would be confirmed shot down in August 1988. And the victim was none other than a future vice-president of Russia, Alexander Rutskoy. That wasn't his first shootdown in the war either. This video tells both stories.
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    Alexander Mladenov - Osprey Combat Aircraft 109 - Su-25 'Frogfoot' Units In Combat
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    Soviet Air confrontations with Pakistan Air Force, during Soviet-Afghan War
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    Did Pakistan’s F-16 shoot down Russian vice president’s fighter jet?
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    Air Forces - Pakistan
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    In 1986, a Pakistani F-16 Almost Killed a Russian Vice President
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  • @Lane8492
    @Lane8492 Год назад +32

    Khaled Mahmood was the most successful Pakistani F-16 Fighting Falcon pilot shooting down 2 Soviet MiG-23MLD Floggers, 1 Afghan Su-22 Fitter,and 1 Soviet An-24 Coke transport aircraft. Pakistani F-16 Fighting Falcons shot down Soviet MiG-23MLD Floggers, 1 Soviet Su-25 Frogfoot, Afghan Su-22 Fitters, 2 Soviet An-26 Curl transport aircraft and 1 Soviet An-24 Coke transport aircraft.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  Год назад +5

      Thanks for the info! I hope to cover some more of these shootdowns in the future. Hopefully, I can find some good info.

  • @Ghost0fPakistan
    @Ghost0fPakistan 3 года назад +131

    The US had offered Pakistan 3 fighters in the 1980 deal. Namely:
    -A7 Corsair
    -F20 Tiger shark
    -A10 thunderbolt (yes Pakistan could've been the first foreign buyer of the warthog)
    But the Pakistani government decided to persuade the US into selling them the Viper/Falcon.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +16

      Thanks for contributing additional info!

    • @Ghost0fPakistan
      @Ghost0fPakistan 3 года назад +18

      @@showtime112 np, just visit the defence forum of Pakistan if you want to read about it in detail

    • @EdukasiPerpus
      @EdukasiPerpus 3 года назад +3

      @@Ghost0fPakistan link?

    • @Ghost0fPakistan
      @Ghost0fPakistan 3 года назад +7

      @@EdukasiPerpus RUclips doesn't let me paste the link

    • @psyayimwone
      @psyayimwone 2 года назад +1

      Those were the years 😂USA never uderstood pakistan supports terrorists and in future shelters bin laden etc etc ..... Ask them now they will give used underwear

  • @johnhill7429
    @johnhill7429 Год назад +25

    Good video. 1) Rules of engagement was that the pilot was only cleared to shoot if the wreckage was to stay inside Pakistan borders. 2) I was a GD rep with the PAF from 85 to 88 and had met most of the players during this time. 3) The F-16 lost during this time was a Kamra aircraft that was a blue-on-blue event (knew both pilots).

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  Год назад +8

      Thank you very much for your comment and for sharing your personal experience!

  • @cp12298
    @cp12298 3 года назад +44

    I remember reading some where that Pakistan Air Force actually shot down many Soviet Aircrafts during Soviet-Afghan war in dogfights on Pakistan-Afghanistan border and that was actually surprising for me...

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +32

      Pakistan claims quite a lot of aircraft shot down during the Soviet involvement in Afghanistan. Most of them actually belonged to the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan but some were Soviet too. Russians don't admit all of those losses but Rutskoy is one case that they confirm.

    • @advlalairfankhokhar5803
      @advlalairfankhokhar5803 2 года назад +19

      Pakistan is the first country in the world which shot down multiple Soviet Aircraft which infact is the first ever kills of F 16 vapor and proves the worthiness of F16.

    • @h.schikhan5850
      @h.schikhan5850 Год назад

      A iranian f4 also bomb 3 russian Mil 8 Helikopter Inside Iran bordar

    • @traviswalker8933
      @traviswalker8933 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@h.schikhan5850that happened when Soviet troops mistakenly crossed the Iranian border and destroyed a factory thinking it was a Mujahideen training camp.

    • @traviswalker8933
      @traviswalker8933 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@showtime112the Afghan airforce was no different than the Soviet airpower currently present in Afghanistan. Infact many Soviet pilots flew those planes.

  • @pontiacGXPfan
    @pontiacGXPfan 3 года назад +45

    If you're a Russian getting shot down over Afghanistan, you're better off not ejecting

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +13

      Sometimes, that was true. Rutskoy was quite lucky. There is a description of a Soviet CSAR mission from Afghanistan where they lost a couple of helos, it would probably make a good video. U just need to learn how to fly choppers first 😁

    • @traviswalker8933
      @traviswalker8933 8 месяцев назад

      That and the embarrassments Soviets faced by their constant miscalculations during operational planning on Afghanistan.

  • @owais146
    @owais146 10 месяцев назад +2

    AMAZING YOU REALLY WORK HARD TO SHOW PERSPECTIVE FROM EACH SIDE DEAR FRIEND GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP IT UP

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  10 месяцев назад

      I appreciate your feedback, I'm glad you like the content!

  • @FS-tv7kb
    @FS-tv7kb 2 года назад +64

    Nice recreation of event. There’s also an incident of a PAF pilot in a Syrian Mig 21 shooting down an Israeli Mirage IIIC Aircraft in 1973 Arab Israeli war. Wonder if you can recreate that in DC World.

    • @lonerunnner123
      @lonerunnner123 2 года назад +5

      That is not happening, I know

    • @mdshabaz4666
      @mdshabaz4666 2 года назад +8

      There is also video where jf -17 thunder fighting an advance alien ufo and destroying with their borrowed/begged AMRAM

    • @klguy4
      @klguy4 2 года назад +4

      Teri kyun jal rahee hai be.

    • @rolex2tone
      @rolex2tone 2 года назад +18

      @@mdshabaz4666 how many tejas in service rn? You can talk when when tejas comes into service in the numbers that jf17 has. Have a nice Day 😊

    • @Ace-Av8er
      @Ace-Av8er Год назад +15

      It was Flight Leftnant Sattar Alvi that shot down a Isreali Mirage III while flying a Syrian Mig-21 in 1973. In 1967 another PAF pilot Saful Azam shot down 3 Isreali aircraft while flying hunters with Joardanian and Iraqi Air Forces. His victims were a Mystere, Mirage III and a Voultair bomber or Isreali Air Force.

  • @EDUCATIONGUY-l4e
    @EDUCATIONGUY-l4e 2 года назад +11

    PAKISTAN IS THE ONLY COUNTRY TO EVER SHOT DOWN USSR AIRCRAFT. PAF IS THE BEST OF THE BEST!

  • @kentwilliams3326
    @kentwilliams3326 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for another great video!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you for watching!

  • @WELSHDESI
    @WELSHDESI Год назад +9

    I remember watching first Batch of F16 landing on Pakistan 🇵🇰 airbase. PTV showed it live 😊

  • @sociallyinept1323
    @sociallyinept1323 2 года назад +4

    Not the only results and not indulging in self praise, We Pakistanis are fking lethal with their F-16

  • @healthiswealth5120
    @healthiswealth5120 3 года назад +44

    MM alam was a pakistani fighter pilot hving record of killing 5 hunters in just 1 minute by using seber

    • @umairmansha4291
      @umairmansha4291 3 года назад +6

      He was a legend who shattered the whole airforce of enemy within 5minutes.

    • @devendra_singh_rathore
      @devendra_singh_rathore 2 года назад +14

      There is no proof
      Just blah blah
      Search sources first

    • @Blackbirdz2000
      @Blackbirdz2000 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@devendra_singh_rathore there is a lot of proof abt it, even accepted by official indian history, i suggest u first read then open yr mouth. There are also his gun camera footages available too.

    • @ashwaniagrawal9460
      @ashwaniagrawal9460 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Blackbirdz2000ruclips.net/video/FXziDH8QYfw/видео.htmlsi=cGG7GAqXV-SfZ7Cc

    • @ashwaniagrawal9460
      @ashwaniagrawal9460 11 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@Blackbirdz2000fake mm alam exposed by DD React 😂😂😂

  • @ivanski28
    @ivanski28 3 года назад +68

    Very interesting, the Fencers were possibly a diversion. If there were Floggers as cover the F-16s could have been in trouble due to them being equipped with medium range R-23 missiles, Pakistani F-16s only had sidewinders.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +13

      MiG-23s might have been there according to a Russian viewer's comment but they didn't shoot for political reasons. That might be true.

    • @savamomirovic4439
      @savamomirovic4439 3 года назад +4

      I'm not really sure about accuracy of R-23..

    • @damionhiggins2625
      @damionhiggins2625 3 года назад +6

      @@savamomirovic4439 R-23 is a very deadly missile 20gs and all aspect but at the time they were probably using the R-24 which has extreme HoB capabilities

    • @savamomirovic4439
      @savamomirovic4439 3 года назад +6

      @@damionhiggins2625 thats really questionable... I read that chaffs were effective against R-23...

    • @damionhiggins2625
      @damionhiggins2625 3 года назад +3

      @Tek Man MiG-23 splashed a few F-16s it wasn’t a bad plane it’s just western bias

  • @hannesorisson1200
    @hannesorisson1200 3 года назад +30

    As always 10 out of 10. Love the background voices suring the SU 25 attack from the AAA team.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +4

      Thanks! A lot of comments praise the added ground sounds, that seems to be the way to go :)

  • @ThunderingVipers
    @ThunderingVipers 3 года назад +43

    There were multiple engagements of F16 hunting and shooting down planes coming over from Afghanistan.
    There was one blue on blue as well when the PAF F16 fired it's sidewinder and it went in the tail pipe of another F16.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +10

      That's right. Some good material for future videos 😁

    • @ThunderingVipers
      @ThunderingVipers 3 года назад +12

      @@showtime112 hehehe yes. As long as you keep the political part out I think the whole Afghanistan/ Pakistan theater can have some good videos. Even though it was like one sided engagement's...

    • @babarkhan-vd6dp
      @babarkhan-vd6dp Год назад +3

      @ Thundering Vipers: 😂😂😂True he is a hypocrite always try to belittle Pakistan in front of India but show our capabilities when combat is against Soviets.

  • @bazej1080
    @bazej1080 3 года назад +21

    Fantastic video and interesting story! Your historical commentary videos are such a great idea.
    (BTW: I'm surprised there is so many "fictional" mods like F-22, Rafale, Su-57 having nothing in common with their real counterparts, but there is no i.e. F-16A to portray proper fighters for video like this one.)

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +5

      Thanks! As for the airplanes you mention, they are just mods and I believe that most details about them are just guesses by their authors because they can't possibly access the right information. And making the A version of F-16 would take lots of effort to do it properly. I listened to several interviews with module developers, making a different version of an airplane is nearly like developing another module. Financial effect from developing F-16A would be questionable. Heatblur is an exception here, they developed F-14B first and then F-14A but it was free for the module owners.

    • @possiblyadickhead6653
      @possiblyadickhead6653 3 года назад +3

      Its way harder to mod the F16 or other full fidelity mods than the FC3 aircraft. All these mods with little exception are all based on FC3 aircraft.

    • @balkancommenterwithseveree7552
      @balkancommenterwithseveree7552 3 года назад

      Supply and demand :)

  • @codystout5353
    @codystout5353 Год назад +2

    Can you imagine the first Russian pilot to see they had F-16s. Every time they go out after that they would think that is it. F-16s are amazing they can do just about anything from close air support. Flip a switch and you can take care of anything in the air as well.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  Год назад +2

      Well, knowing that there's such a dangerous opponent out there must have changed their mindsets significantly.

  • @richardwolf8024
    @richardwolf8024 3 года назад +11

    Great video! Yes, more from this conflict would be appreciated.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      Thank you very much! We will revisit this conflict again, don't worry.

  • @fatihdurmaz3490
    @fatihdurmaz3490 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video.

  • @wingsofwar13
    @wingsofwar13 3 года назад +29

    Great video as always. I really enjoy you historical/reenactment content. Would you consider putting links in the descriptions for the various mods/skins/etc that you utilize? I’m particularly interested in the hesco type barriers and revetments you used to outline the resupply base and AAA emplacements in the first attack. Thanks!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +5

      Thanks for the comment. Those barriers and revetments come from a mod called SAM Sites Assets Pack. Here's the link:
      forums.eagle.ru/topic/275571-sam-sites-asset-pack-a-3d-assets-mod-to-populate-you-sam-sites-farp-and-other-bases/
      I found some photos and drawings of this Mujahideen complex. They used stone walls but this was the closest thing available to simulate stone. I'll try to remember and put other links in the future.

    • @wingsofwar13
      @wingsofwar13 3 года назад +1

      @@showtime112 Thank you!

  • @foxbat888
    @foxbat888 3 года назад +7

    The shouting and AK-47 fire made it more realistic and three dimensional.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +3

      Quite a few comments about that. I must make a note to include such details more frequently 😁

  • @ashtonbailey3970
    @ashtonbailey3970 2 года назад +9

    How above the 5 IAF hunters shot down by M M Alam in under 60 seconds?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад +5

      No Hunters yet in DCS. One developer is supposedly working on it but there's no news from them since November. We can only hope.

    • @ashtonbailey3970
      @ashtonbailey3970 2 года назад

      @@showtime112 thank you

  • @RealDarko
    @RealDarko 3 года назад +4

    Excellent video as always! Good work mate!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      Thank you, glad you liked it!

  • @garethhughes5745
    @garethhughes5745 3 года назад +5

    Awesome firefight sounds @ 6:38, even the boom from the exploding plane takes a few seconds to reach, very realistic. Interesting watch and very very well made vid. :)

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      Thanks for the comment! As for the sound delay, I'm not sure if that's realistic or if there' s some problem with DCS replay track. Sometimes, it seems a too long delay.

    • @garethhughes5745
      @garethhughes5745 3 года назад

      @@showtime112 possibly a little bit long, but still, you expect a delay and its there. sounded great. Keep the vids coming, enjoying watching and will recommend where possible. :)

  • @ayazahmed5685
    @ayazahmed5685 3 года назад +15

    Its man behind machine...Soviets..Indiands Israelis..PAF is Brand

    • @dushyantchaudhry4654
      @dushyantchaudhry4654 2 месяца назад +1

      Any airforce can shoot down Soviet aircraft with an F16. Its has a 78 to 0 record. Ukrainians downed 2 Russian top of the line fighters in the last 3 months with barely any experience on F16s. Both are confirmed by the Russians. PAF is the only airforce operating F16s that actually shot down its own F16 in May 1987.

  • @MisteriosGloriosos922
    @MisteriosGloriosos922 3 года назад +3

    *Well done video production. I sure like it, good job!!!*

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      Thanks a lot for your support!

  • @patrickcloutier6801
    @patrickcloutier6801 3 года назад +16

    I am curious as to why the Soviet Air Force did not provide some sort of fighter escort for the Su-25s, since there was already a history of the Pakistani Air Force reacting strongly to Soviet air incursions? It seems like the Su-25 is analogous to the U.S.A.F.'s A-10 Warthog, which does not appear to have been designed with air combat in mind - were the Soviets NOT providing escorts, in an attempt to prevent an escalation of hostilities with Islamabad?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +13

      It seems that some MiG-23s might have been there. A Russian viewer commented on that here (in Russian language but GT will translate it well enough). Supposedly, they didn't shoot for political reasons. Attacking Mujahideen camps across the border was considered acceptable, but apparently shooting down a Pakistani jet in Pakistani airspace was too much.

    • @TheGranicd
      @TheGranicd 3 года назад +3

      Being nice never pays off I guess.

    • @patrickcloutier6801
      @patrickcloutier6801 3 года назад +2

      @@showtime112 I was trained to translate Russian. Send me the text and I will render it for you, as a viewer contribution.

    • @steveperreira5850
      @steveperreira5850 3 года назад +1

      Maybe you have never been in the military? It’s packed full of lazy dummies, so I can imagine the Russians not supplying escort On account of stupidity, or possibly not having escort available due to laziness, or a combination of both.

    • @munnumkhalid
      @munnumkhalid 2 года назад +1

      @@showtime112 it was documented that both airforce could kill only if the debris would fall in their side of the boarder.

  • @iljajekimov4997
    @iljajekimov4997 3 года назад +2

    Was wayting for new video and got 2 great stories!!! We need more!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      There's a lot more to come, don't worry!

  • @PappaBear_yt
    @PappaBear_yt 3 года назад +9

    Cool video, man! 👍🏻 Also, I always liked the Su-25 cockpit in early LockOn and Flaming Cliffs, but didn't know it looks so good now in DCS (had a love/hate relationship with Su-25T, though).
    Cheers!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +3

      It's one of those overlooked attack aircraft. In real life and in DCS too. It would be cool to have a high-fidelity version but I guess it is still too numerous in the Russian Air Force for that. Thanks for another comment and keep watching!

    • @bazej1080
      @bazej1080 3 года назад +1

      I would love to see a full fidelity Su-25A, A-10A or F-16A in DCS

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +3

      @@bazej1080 I wouldn't mind seeing some of those myself!

  • @pablopeter3564
    @pablopeter3564 3 года назад +7

    GREAT JOB ¡ As usual. I enjoy the pilots/cokpit, exterior and different view you present these historical events. I wish, as a pilot, could see different perspectives of my A320. Thanks for your great wokk.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      Thanks a lot for all of your comments! As for perspectives in the Airbus, I guess that is only possible in MSFS 2020 😁

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700
    @sohrabroozbahani4700 3 года назад +3

    I really like how you SFX your videos 👍

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      Thanks! You probably mean the added voices and gunfire in the ground view?

  • @naherf385
    @naherf385 2 года назад +5

    The famous kills of PAF fighter pilot Saiful Azam. During his career as a PAF pilot, he shot down one Indian Air Force (IAF) and three Israeli Air Force (IAF) aircraft. He later joined Bangladesh Air Force and retired as Group Captain.

    • @spsniper1170
      @spsniper1170 3 месяца назад

      How was it he shot down IAF planes??

    • @saa__di
      @saa__di 25 дней назад

      ​@@spsniper1170 1965

  • @guinnog2
    @guinnog2 3 года назад +2

    Good video. Thanks for making it.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for commenting. that helps!

  • @mihaifafaneata3987
    @mihaifafaneata3987 3 года назад +3

    Amazing video as always! Keep up the good work bro!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      Thank you very much! New videos coming up.

  • @kalas1988
    @kalas1988 3 года назад +2

    Pozdrav,
    odlični videi! Just keep on the good work. Pozdrav iz Slo

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      Hvala na komentaru, pozdrav Sloveniji!

  • @BENKYism
    @BENKYism 3 года назад +4

    Any video with fencers and frogfoots is going to be be a good video

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      We'll try to show them again in the future! Thanks for commenting!

  • @NeutronRob
    @NeutronRob 3 года назад +3

    Interesting story line and a nice video!

  • @Killa117er
    @Killa117er 3 года назад +6

    Excellent video and historical commentary. Just one correction, PAF received it's first F-16 in 1982, not 83'.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +7

      Thanks! According to several sources (F-16.net for example), first F-16s were accepted by Pakistan in in October 1982. but the first ones landed in Pakistan on 15th January 1983. in Sargodha air base. So that's what I used.

    • @universalsoldier2011
      @universalsoldier2011 3 года назад +4

      @@showtime112 you are right. PAF received the first F-16 in January 1983, while it's first public appearance was on 23 March 1983.

  • @iamsalngo81
    @iamsalngo81 3 года назад +5

    Amazing mate i think there are more of shooting down Soviets jets by PAF also many soviets jets and helicopters landed in pakistan including mi24 of thst time looking forwards if you recreate all those

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +4

      Thanks! I do intend to cover other cases of Pakistani shootdowns of Soviet and Afghan jets during that conflict.

    • @iamsalngo81
      @iamsalngo81 3 года назад

      @@showtime112 Cheers

  • @AAAA-gp3vk
    @AAAA-gp3vk 2 года назад +3

    Should be f16a of PAF not f16c. Yea PAF played hell with Soviets and this incident neutralized any further ambitions of the Soviets and started their withdrawal

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад +1

      Had F16A been available, it would have been used.

  • @mtumeumrani376
    @mtumeumrani376 3 года назад +2

    Exceptional and epic. Please show all the shoot downs of the Soviet Afghanistan war.
    Keep up the epic work!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! I will certainly cover some more of those shootdowns. I will probably wait for MiG-23 module to be released in DCS for those cases that involve this fighter. There are descriptions of some unsuccessful interceptions (By the F-6s). Those can be made too.

  • @DiaconescuAlexandru2024
    @DiaconescuAlexandru2024 3 года назад +8

    04:05 Must have been hard to get that first pass of the Su25 over the base without getting shot down !

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +7

      To be honest, the missile was set to inactive during the first pass because it only needed to react when Rutskoy was making his recon pass. As for guns, they can generally be avoided as long as you don't come too low and don't fly straight. However, my wingman did get shot down but that wasn't shown 😁

  • @toolmakerbest1584
    @toolmakerbest1584 3 года назад +2

    Great video!
    More like it would certainly be apricated! 👍

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for commenting. More videos on the way!

  • @oswaldovalle
    @oswaldovalle 3 года назад +2

    Excelent work!!! we want more

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      More to come, don't worry!

  • @BorisZech
    @BorisZech 3 года назад +2

    Amazing storytelling. Where did you get the sound footage at 3:41 from?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      Thanks! The sound comes from a footage of Afghan Army fighting the Taliban. It's more recent but I think in kinda works. There's just one piece of footage I could find from the 1980s but I had already used that in a previous video.

  • @yousafrahimmuhammad9580
    @yousafrahimmuhammad9580 3 года назад +3

    the voices on ground seemed perfect!!!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      They are not actually Mujahideen, but they are Afghan voices. Few would know the difference :)

    • @yousafrahimmuhammad9580
      @yousafrahimmuhammad9580 3 года назад

      @@showtime112 yup, it seemed like it resembeled pushto, which i can speak as well, so I think its attention to a very minute detail as well 👍

  • @box8brewing829
    @box8brewing829 3 года назад +1

    Great job, as always.

  • @GardenerEarthGuy
    @GardenerEarthGuy 3 года назад +7

    The voices on the ground made this video!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +2

      Thanks! I try to include such details whenever possible..

  • @T3RMINATORX
    @T3RMINATORX 3 месяца назад +1

    Great channel Please make a video about Pakistani Fighter pilot M. M. Alam who shot down 5 Indian Hunter jets in less than 60 seconds

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 месяца назад

      Thank you very much! Alam is on my to do list but I'm not sure when I will tangle with that topic.

  • @HarisMalik
    @HarisMalik 3 года назад +3

    Ah you used my DRAAF killmarks skin cool stuff

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      You made that skin? Cook, thanks for contributing to the DCS community!

    • @HarisMalik
      @HarisMalik 3 года назад +2

      @@showtime112 you're welcome yes all of PAF F16 skins are by me.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +2

      @@HarisMalik Good job! Skinners are a very important part of any flight simulation.

  • @Dogface1984
    @Dogface1984 3 года назад +4

    Amazing history lesson. I wonder what’s hidden in the networks of tunnels carved closed up by the soviets. I guess they’ve been there since at least 1783 when the British invaded a few times???

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment! I haven't studied the topic of tunnels very deeply but I have come across information that Taliban used cave complexes in the war against America too. They probably cleared the entrances after some time.

    • @Dogface1984
      @Dogface1984 3 года назад +1

      @@showtime112 i am definitely familiar with the talibans usage of cave complexes in the recent war. Although I never went to Afghanistan (Iraq * 3) we definitely trained for it and I heard many stories from friends.
      Now I see that closing up these holes was a legitimate mission for the soviets in their war.
      I’m curious how many tunnels actually exist, and who built all of them?
      Thank God for the internet!!
      You have amazing content too by the way, thanks for your response!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +2

      @@Dogface1984 Thanks again, hope you like future content too!

  • @saaduish
    @saaduish 9 месяцев назад +1

    Please make more videos on Pakistan Afgan soviet war

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  9 месяцев назад

      I intend to. We will have the actual map of Afghanistan in DCS which should help.

  • @shahidmehmood7944
    @shahidmehmood7944 Год назад +1

    Nice video as usual.bst wshs.

  • @fardinakbar8380
    @fardinakbar8380 3 года назад +2

    Showtime112 pls make a video on indo pak war of 1965 f86 sabre vs Gnet

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      Gladly, but there are no Gnats in DCS.

    • @fardinakbar8380
      @fardinakbar8380 3 года назад

      However, you have made videos on indo pak war of 1971 , but also suggest you to make one on the battle of Boyra pak indo war 1971 Mig 21 Vs F86 Sabres easten theatre

    • @fardinakbar8380
      @fardinakbar8380 3 года назад

      some great war books written by Retd Air Commmodore Kaiser tufail who is one of war historians from paf .... "Against all odds" & "In the ring & on its feet "

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      @@fardinakbar8380 I'll investigate that, thanks for the suggestion.

  • @alibrohi260
    @alibrohi260 5 месяцев назад

    bro the squardon logo on the stabilizer is of the 11 sqn not 14

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  5 месяцев назад +2

      That skin wasn't available

    • @alibrohi260
      @alibrohi260 5 месяцев назад

      you finally replied :) big fan ngl

  • @FoxtrotAlpha173
    @FoxtrotAlpha173 2 года назад

    Nice illustration 👌👌

  • @ronaldwatson1951
    @ronaldwatson1951 3 года назад +2

    Love the historical point approach to your videos, good video it appears that the Soviet planes that turned around looked like F-111's ?

    • @sargesacker2599
      @sargesacker2599 3 года назад

      Those are SU-24 Fencer they have a similar role to F-111’s.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +3

      Thanks again! Those are Su-24s and they were apparently very much influenced by the F-111. I actually used Su-24 in one of my videos to represent EF-111 :)

    • @ronaldwatson1951
      @ronaldwatson1951 3 года назад +1

      @@showtime112 can't remember exactly but when I was in college the SU 25 was a stolen or sold design by the Russians. That design competed against the now Warthog ; it was a YA9 and the warthog was a YA10. During trails

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      @@ronaldwatson1951 There is some resemblance between the YA-9 and the Su-25. Russians were obviously keeping an eye on American designs and often applied same or similar solutions (such as swing-wings for example).

    • @ronaldwatson1951
      @ronaldwatson1951 3 года назад

      @@showtime112 that's for sure, during the 70's and early 80's spying was at its premium, to receive a Top Secret clearance was like going to the worst place you can think of. Alot of stealing secrets and defectors.

  • @DJEDzTV
    @DJEDzTV 3 года назад +2

    Here is a question, did any Soviet / Russian jet ever shoot down a western made jet? (excluding the Vietnam war).
    Are there any confirmed kills & if yes, against what aircraft? Would appreciate your reply. thx)

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +5

      One case which is now confirmed was the F/A-18 in the first night of Desert Storm. It was shot down by an Iraqi MiG-25. In the Indo-Pak war of 1971, MiG-21s shot down at least two F-104s.. Arabs did manage to shoot down a number of Israeli jets during the 1973 war too. The exact number is disputed but there were kills scored. Iraqi MiG-21s shot down at least two Iranian F-5s. This is just off the top of my head.

    • @naveedchuhan7126
      @naveedchuhan7126 3 года назад +1

      Four jets shot down by paf pilots in Arab wars

    • @DJEDzTV
      @DJEDzTV 3 года назад

      @@showtime112 wow thanks for this, appreciate it. This side is also interesting because I found it strange that we hear a lot about how competitive the Soviet jets were but never hear any success that they had..Even if any US made jets got shot down, usually they say its the AA battery or something else..
      Thanks again for your reply.

    • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
      @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 3 года назад +2

      Sabres and Starfighters were shot down during the India Pakistan wars.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +2

      @@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 And I didn't remember that at the time, despite having done several videos about it. Silly me 😁😁😁

  • @anandnairkollam
    @anandnairkollam 3 года назад +5

    I'm sure he became VP of Russia after this incident. Not during this time.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +4

      Of course. It is said in the beginning of the video that he was the vice-president from 1991. to 1993. He was shot down in 1986. and 1988.

    • @ismailkm1
      @ismailkm1 2 года назад

      😂😂

  • @krvikrant
    @krvikrant 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for masking Taliban and Al Qaida by calling them Mujahidin rebels.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад +6

      There were no Taliban or Al Qaida at the time so you can't possibly call them that. Unless you have some wrong ideas about history and timeline.

    • @krvikrant
      @krvikrant 2 года назад

      @@showtime112 But you are making this now, You know very well that the same mujahidin became AQ and Taliban and IS as well. We could have mentioned that.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад +1

      @@krvikrant Irrelevant for this video.

    • @haroonshahid5545
      @haroonshahid5545 Год назад

      They were Mujahideen when they were fighting Soviets ... But they are terrorist cause now they fight colonial powers...

  • @gazgazgaz2
    @gazgazgaz2 3 года назад

    Thanks for great video all times, Hey just wonder.. how did you get the native back ground sounds? 3:43

  • @Nighthawk202-s5n
    @Nighthawk202-s5n 3 года назад +5

    Paf 0 - Soviet air force 10 kill
    Soviet afghan aerial war conflict

    • @priyanshusingh2043
      @priyanshusingh2043 3 года назад +1

      Paf 1 - Afghan,Soviet - 10

    • @Nighthawk202-s5n
      @Nighthawk202-s5n 3 года назад +1

      @@priyanshusingh2043 soviet/afghan never claim that 1
      It was friendly fire sidewinder

  • @farooqishaq6974
    @farooqishaq6974 3 года назад +8

    This was our fight for survival. Some very good books on the ground reality and actual history have been written. We were determined to keep mother Russia away from border as first strategy and to fight to no ends if Soviet military actually in invaded Pakistan.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +3

      Fact is that Soviet and Afghan aircraft regularly entered Pakistani airspace. Most countries wouldn't just accept that.

    • @amjadkhan-jv6xj
      @amjadkhan-jv6xj 3 года назад +4

      @@showtime112 that's true they entered pakistani airspace to target afghan refugee camps located on the pak afghan border. Pakistan couldn't afford to start a full fledge war with ussr.

    • @paksarzamin6550
      @paksarzamin6550 2 года назад

      @@showtime112 You need to consider Pakistan is not part of any defensive alliance and was sandwiched between two enemies along its two longest borders (India and Soviet Afghanistan), the distance between the two was 250-300 miles of Pakistani territory. It would’ve been difficult for Pakistan to fight a superpower and an enemy 5 times it’s size simultaneously. Pakistan played it well, it’s better to lose some battles than lose a war.

    • @Schneizel00
      @Schneizel00 2 года назад

      @@paksarzamin6550 He is biased and sides with indians, he gets his views from the videos by making it on pakistan and indians and instigating pakistanis in a bad light in any way possible

  • @dmutant2635
    @dmutant2635 3 года назад +3

    How do you shoot down an SU-25?
    You just don't lead'em so much...

  • @aunmohammad241
    @aunmohammad241 2 года назад +1

    Plz make that video where pakistan air force demolished abinandan and also make that tea video

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад

      I did but you might not like it 😁

  • @renatoandricevic8638
    @renatoandricevic8638 3 года назад +1

    Like prije gledanja, pa onda gledam 😊

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      Kakvo povjerenje 😁 Hvala!

  • @devarm
    @devarm 2 года назад +1

    If you wanna use the accurate aircraft variants, I think, Falcon BMS is the way to go, lots and lots of equipment, many versions of F-16s available as well as F-15 and others, avionics used are of F-16 though.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад

      Thanks for the advice. I might go ahead with that someday but mastering a whole new game takes time.

    • @devarm
      @devarm 2 года назад

      @@showtime112 indeed it does. :)

  • @34500dauphin
    @34500dauphin 3 года назад +1

    7:03 truthful!!!!the first blocks of SU 25( have loose their tail when hit by MANPAD missile. After all will be strengtenth

  • @paulstanton7153
    @paulstanton7153 3 года назад +1

    Another great story,how about the Falklands air combat .

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      Thank you! The Falklands will wait for the map release because none of the available maps look anything like that. Hopefully, it should be the first half of 2022.

  • @asifmughal3374
    @asifmughal3374 2 года назад

    Show us more pak - afghan conflicts like that

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад

      I intend to. There are some more maps and modules under development for DCS so I'm waiting for those to make the videos more precise than possible now.

  • @farrukhismail
    @farrukhismail 3 года назад +1

    Nice work

  • @thespatulaa
    @thespatulaa 2 года назад

    Would love a video about Saif Al Azam and Wing Commander alvi

  • @philipatma5094
    @philipatma5094 3 года назад

    PLEASE MAKE A GAME GENERAL AND CONQUER COMMAND YOUR GRAPHIC DESIGN IS BEAUTIFUL AND INCREDIBLE..

  • @brothergunns5055
    @brothergunns5055 3 года назад +7

    Pakistan didn't have BVR capabilities at that time. So it could have been a disaster for them if Russians retaliated.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +2

      Possibly. But then, MiG-23 has never really shined against any airplane.

    • @brothergunns5055
      @brothergunns5055 3 года назад +5

      @@showtime112 yep. The Indians used Mig-23 and Mig-27s for ground attack roles. And the MiG-25 is a tank buster. Just like the A-10.

    • @RAPTORGAMINGz
      @RAPTORGAMINGz 3 года назад +6

      @@brothergunns5055 indian mig27 shoot down by pakistani stringer missile in kargil conflict

    • @brothergunns5055
      @brothergunns5055 3 года назад +7

      @@RAPTORGAMINGz Pakistani F-16s didn't have BVR capabilities in 1999 either. That is the reason they didn't dare to fly sorties against Indian MiG-29s.
      Air superiority is one of the reason why Indians had a decisive victory in Kargil war too.
      Former prime minister of Pakistan also confirmed about more than 3000 pakistani causalities.

    • @brothergunns5055
      @brothergunns5055 3 года назад +6

      @@RAPTORGAMINGz Pakistan lost the war, and was heavily criticized too. And US-Pakistan relations have also taken a dip due to Pakistan's t4rr0r!$m problems.

  • @businesssuccess184
    @businesssuccess184 Год назад +1

    Soviet aircraft crashed:- Confirmed Shot down
    American aircraft crashed:- Probably due to friendly fire
    What a logic😂😂😂😂

    • @averagenewbie2968
      @averagenewbie2968 Год назад +1

      Soviets or afgans never claimed the kill, so you can keep your indian bias aside

  • @km99999
    @km99999 3 года назад +8

    More from Afghanistan war please ! 🙏 exploit of Pakistan 🇵🇰 airforce .

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +4

      OK, your request is noted :) Thee are other shootdowns which could be reenacted.

  • @maniac3449
    @maniac3449 2 года назад

    But the Wikipedia is showing that Alexander Rutskoy (Vice President) was flying at night and they were near the Afghan refugees camp in Miranshah, NWF province, Pakistan.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад +4

      I usually move events taking place at night to sunset. It's very hard to see anything in full darkness and besides, YT compression is very unkind to night footage. Call it creative freedom :)

  • @ulisesvelez5846
    @ulisesvelez5846 3 года назад +3

    the sukhoi su-24-fencer soviet/russian air force. the american equivalent is the general dynamics fb-111

  • @naveedcommando1342
    @naveedcommando1342 Год назад

    Make a video on Paf mig 21 v.s isreali meraj3 in syrai 73 war

  • @oreo6537
    @oreo6537 3 года назад +12

    Great job!
    I think the PAF downed more than ten Russian aircraft during the course of the conflict.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +9

      Thanks! Pakistan confirmed ten kills. Most of those are actually Democratic Republic of Afghanistan's aircraft. Soviets only admit four or five.

  • @drsajeelabdulwahid8023
    @drsajeelabdulwahid8023 2 года назад +1

    Salam kindly make more pakistani videos

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад

      There are more planned for the future.

  • @alejandrocasalegno1657
    @alejandrocasalegno1657 3 года назад +2

    The bort number 26 of the 1986 shot down is right, the "Redeye" in Afghanistan is like Urban legend, we all know about the Stinger, Blowpipe , the aghans show it, the soviets captured them.......the are hundreds of photos.......but nothing about the Redeye.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      And there's my scrutineer 😁 As you say, Redeye might be a myth. But it was mentioned in several sources so I included it here too. According to Mladenov, there was a big increase in Mujahideen missile launched already in 1985 so they were getting supplied. It probably wasn't just captured weapons.

    • @alejandrocasalegno1657
      @alejandrocasalegno1657 3 года назад

      @@showtime112 You are right are saveral sources talking about the Redeye, but ...not a single photo???.....at the time i see photos of the "Contras" of Nicaragua with Redeyes .
      About the SAMs increase, were a great supply of egyptian, chinese, russian versions of the Strela-

  • @tahirusman5929
    @tahirusman5929 2 года назад

    You might find it interesting that a very high speed object had overtaken a Pak F16 during one of these clashes. It was described as a typical flying disc if I remember correctly…..

  • @johnhill4717
    @johnhill4717 3 года назад +1

    You have the wrong configuration of the Pakistan aircraft. They had Block 15's in the Peace Gate I, II deliveries. You have Block 30 and later configuration depicted.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      It's not a wrong configuration, it's the only available one. That's very clearly explained in the video.

  • @WilmerCook
    @WilmerCook Год назад

    My how times have changed.

  • @saibalbh31
    @saibalbh31 3 года назад +2

    Actually he was shot down 3 times , last time he was held pow .

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +2

      That's what wikipedia claims I think. But that's just a brief mention. All the sources that go more deeply only describe two shootdowns.

  • @TheRashid28
    @TheRashid28 3 года назад

    Please do the video on Eight pass charlie

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      We don't have a Canberra in DCS. If it ever gets developed, sounds very interesting.

  • @jimfashik
    @jimfashik 2 года назад

    The SU25 frog foot twin 25mm and its a beautiful aircraft that a mother would love
    Tank buster 😀😀😀

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад +1

      Even Russians can design nice looking things sometimes 😁

    • @jimfashik
      @jimfashik 2 года назад

      @@showtime112 yes thay can

  • @ulisesvelez5846
    @ulisesvelez5846 3 года назад +2

    the sukhoi su-26-frogfoot is the russian version of american usag a-10-thuderbolt.

  • @DonzaiNoHana
    @DonzaiNoHana 3 года назад +2

    What a useless pilot. He has been shot 3 times in different engagements.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      I believe he was show down two times only. But this is more a reflection of his aggressiveness.

  • @brightpakistan5476
    @brightpakistan5476 3 года назад +1

    Very good 👍

  • @QuantumCount2717
    @QuantumCount2717 3 года назад +6

    Long live my Pakistan
    Pakistan zindabad Pakistani army zindabad

  • @peterfernandes8238
    @peterfernandes8238 3 года назад +2

    Atleast big daddy America had the sense to not give pakistan any more F16s. Now all they have is the chinese chilly chicken JF17s.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +2

      It's a rather strange relationship between USA and Pakistan, I'd say.

    • @_hunterz_
      @_hunterz_ 3 года назад +1

      F16 Falcons are old crap, nowadays J10C and JF17 Stage 3 is a game changer

    • @exploreradverturer8396
      @exploreradverturer8396 3 года назад +7

      ...these "chilly chickens" made your Indian upgraded Mirage 2000s run like a naked woman on 27 Feb 2019

  • @praveenrajraj426
    @praveenrajraj426 3 года назад +2

    Imagine if this happens in real life the world map would have changed by russians

    • @farooqishaq6974
      @farooqishaq6974 3 года назад +2

      This is an actual event.

    • @praveenrajraj426
      @praveenrajraj426 3 года назад +2

      @@farooqishaq6974 don't blabber

    • @praveenrajraj426
      @praveenrajraj426 3 года назад +2

      @@farooqishaq6974 if Pakistan did this is it will be end of Pakistan

    • @munawwarkhan1926
      @munawwarkhan1926 3 года назад +8

      @@praveenrajraj426 lolll so do you think this guy here was randomly coming up with all the dates? you guys are funny :D

    • @TheHustler47
      @TheHustler47 3 года назад

      Typical indian mentality that Pakistan is just a piece of cake.

  • @Nighthawk202-s5n
    @Nighthawk202-s5n 3 года назад +2

    Great video

  • @alistars1109
    @alistars1109 3 года назад +2

    Ima li šanse da napraviš rušenje srpskih migova 29 u Nato bombardiranju 1999.?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад +1

      Jedno od njih je dosad obrađeoo na kanalu (Rico Rodriguez protiv Arizanova). Bit će ih još u budućnosti.

    • @alistars1109
      @alistars1109 3 года назад

      Hvala i svako dobro u daljnjem radu.

  • @1joshjosh1
    @1joshjosh1 9 месяцев назад +1

    I will keep watching
    Showtime 112.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  9 месяцев назад

      Glad to hear it, thank you!

  • @jikpmediadeptt1084
    @jikpmediadeptt1084 3 года назад

    marvelous! yes plz! all the air to air kills by Pak A/Force Pilots especially in Afghanistan and against Indians too.! thanks a lot.!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 года назад

      Thanks for your support. More of these stories will certainly be covered in the future.

  • @azizaziz5621
    @azizaziz5621 3 года назад

    So damn realistic..bravo

  • @ismailkm1
    @ismailkm1 2 года назад

    Why do the Russian machines emit black smoke from the exhaust?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 года назад +1

      They are programmed this way, I'm not sure that is perfectly accurate but that's how it is.