F-16 vs MiG-29 - The Last Air Battle of Operation Allied Force
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- Опубликовано: 31 дек 2021
- NATO operation called Allied Force commenced on 24 March 1999. Serbian MiG-29 fighters initially tried to confront NATO strike groups but no success was achieved while five fighters were lost. It is now 4 May 1999, the operation is still underway but Serbian MiGs haven't tried to takeoff for weeks. However, political pressure will result in a single fighter taking off from Batajnica airbase. The MiG-29 is flown by the CO of 204th Fighter Regiment, Colonel Milenko Pavlović. Not willing to send any of his subordinates to almost certain death, he personally takes off to face a superior force.
NATO strike groups are defended by USAF F-16s. They play dual role, protecting them from fighters and surface-to-air missiles. Michael 'Dog' Geczy leads one of two F-16 flights. After the first strike group finishes the attack, F-16s turn away to escort them out. At that moment, AWACS calls bogey in the air. Geczy's group, although low on fuel turns to meet the threat.
Sources:
- SimHQ Forum
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- Novi detalji o obaranju pukovnika Milenka Pavlovića 4. maja 1999. godine od strane američkog pilota koji je tada bio u vazduhu
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- The Afterburn Podcast - Ep 34 - Mike 'Hilts' Hilton
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- Let u Smrt (Flight Into Death)
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I feel bad for Col. Pavlovic. He took the risk so the pilots under his command wouldn’t be needlessly killed. That is true leadership from the front. We were his adversary but I personally have nothing but respect for this brave man. RIP Colonel Pavlovic. The Yugoslav Air Force was lucky to have a man like you.
Thank you for your thoughts!
Srbi uvijek lazu, taj isti srpski pilot je ubijao civile gdje got je mogao
@@oskng Is this Serbian? I’m sorry I can’t understand it.
@@oskng Sta ti sernjas au
@@oskng ne seri
My uncle was a intelligence officer during this war and was in this squadron. He was in the squadron of the f16 and was in charge of documenting the flight. He knew Geczy and the 20th squadron. I showed this to him the other night and his eyes lit up. He was surprised by how specific you are and I’m proud of your videos. Just want to thank you for your videos. He really loved that.
Thank you very much for this feedback! I sometimes get comments from people who are somehow connected to the stories featured in the videos. As far as I can remember, reactions are always positive. That means a lot to me.
You and your uncle are very proud when you attack a 100 times weaker opponent.
@@pilipendapilipenda6342 As that opponent did to us, Kosovo albanians. We were 100 times weaker than serbian army too .
@@visar533u Albanians have a country. Why r u the only people that claim 2 countries? Why is everybody fleeing here to Switzerland from Kosovo? U wanted ur country, now u all leave. Its a bad joke.
@@visar533Damn invaders and vermins. Narko "state" but one day nato will leave same as turks did....
RIP Milenko. What a man.
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I was in Valjevo when this incident occurred. Still have a video of burning falling 29 made by local tv station. At first, everyone was in impression that aircraft is from NATO, no one expected 29 flying in hornet nest.
It had been weeks since any MiGs took off. I guess nobody expected that.
@@showtime112 In relation to the information from the video, the local air defense commander from that time publicly stated that the plane was hit by AIM-120 missile from a distance of about 20-25 km. Two were fired, the first missed and the second hit the plane right behind the cockpit. Killing the pilot instantly. But who knows, maybe they were this close.
btw, excellent video
@@grom1967 If the pilot was killed instantly, how was he able to radio back that "they got me"?
@@foxtrotwhiskey874 that was before impact
Thanks so much for posting this and the many others like it. Particularly little incidents like this that many people (like me) don't know about!
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Fhis man, Milenko Pavlovic... he was clearly a very brave and at least on this occasion an honorable man.
*facing the American F16s, which to be fair at the time of the engagement, were arguably the tightest turning aircraft in the skies, really was certain death.*
Deciding to step up and protect his subordinates may not be the most appropriate thing as an officer, (officers are conditioned at officer training to understand that losing men under your command is part of warfare. And, as an officer, he may have failed in this respect), yet I have little regard for those who could waste lives on an operation that clearly is not necessary, or even smart strategically.
*I have not heard of this man, and as an American I say RESPECT to you Pavlovic, you were a true hero.*
"...no greater love hath a man than to lay down his own life for his friends."
Thanks for sharing this interesting story, the young men today could learn from his actions, and from the futility of a War that should NEVER have happened.
*Peace... it always a good day to give it another chance!*
Hvala Lepo
😎🇺🇸 (heeeey, happy New Year, brother!)
Thanks for the comment. You could certainly discuss whether he acted like a good officer or not. But I guess he didn't fail as a human.
He was a commander of the fighter unit flying Mig29s. There were rumors that he was under great preassure to get some air kills with his units. 3 Mig29s were lost on the first night, 2 more a few days later. NATO outranged the A-A weapons Migs ad by far and none of the shot down Migs fired a missile before being shot down. On this day he literally pulled much younger and inexperienced pilot out of the cockpit of a plane on alert with (paraphrading) : "You stupid kid, you are not ketting killed, its my task". The misdion itself was to try to catch up leaving strike package and try to score a kill from behind using radar guided R-27R missile with 20-30km range. He was spoted by an AWACS and 4 F16s covering the package were vectored to intercept. He was killed over his home town, with 2 AMRAAMs scoring hits. Slava mu!
@@showtime112 He did act like a good officer. The man who was supposed to walk into that jet was pushed by Milenko. He sacrificed himself.
Bio sam u njegovom rodnom selu pored Valjeva.
Njegova kuca je sad muzej,a u dvoristu su delovi oborenog mig29 u kom je poginuo..
Slava mu!!!
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That's what I mean, as a human being he is a heroic and very courageous man.
Yet, my only point negatively was that according to his superiors, I'm sure they didn't intend for him to sacrifice himself for the other guys under him.
*In this respect, he deserves ALL OF OUR RESPECT AND RECOGNITION,* for, it is easy to sit in our comfortable environs and spout brave words, yet when it is time to put your life on the line, and willingly step into the oblivion of death, that is another matter.
A matter for real men.
My most high respect, praise and glory to this hero of Serbia!!
Hope all who read this, have a better year this year than the last.
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Hero of Serbia Milenko Pavlović!
16 on 1.
you have a song on RUclips dedicated to the colonel.
he went out, knowing he was outgunned and outnumbered....regardless of anything else that takes a heck of a lot of bravery and selflessness to do. There are a lot of people who wouldnt be able to do it.
Badly maintained Mig-29 with pilots flying 10 hours per year up against F-16 with latest avionics and armament and superior pilot training with AWAC support. The writing was on the wall.
Yes, the outcome was quite certain from the start.
Yet,the F-16 was damaged a lot and he made the F-16 retreat.
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Is this a part of another story?
By presenting Aviation History in the way you do it, without any political comments, you are paying tribute to the heroes who paid the ultimate sacrifice for their country. Thanks very much.
Thanks. There might be some political comments here ant there but subtle :)
Lt.Col Milenko Pavlovic sacrificed himself to protect younger pilots..And to add that most of Serbian MiGs were in poor condition since the country was held under UN economic sanctions from 1992 to 1996.
There was also a concept to use MiG 29 and to go on a kamikaze mission to bring down Boeing E 3 Sentry, also known as AWACS.
Dream on.
ma brate, džaba objašnjavaš,...
serbs could’ve restored retired f-86 fighters to at least destroy a couple attack choppers if they were that desperate
Excellent, as usual. Loved seeing the Tornado briefly in the vid, I'm a huge fan of that platform. Keep up the great work!
Thanks. I've always liked the Tornado and I took the opportunity to show it 😁 Would like to have a flyable module too.
Yes!! The GR4 is a very fine aircraft!
One of my favorites of all time.
Those runway destroying pods it carried that eject little cluster munitions from either side as it swoops down across the enemy runway is really genius and very effective.
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It really reminds me of the F111 aardvark.
The Squadron badge denotes it as II (AC) Squadron (AC = Army Cooperation) (I was on the Squadron at Laarbruch + Gulf War 1). They were Tactical Reconnaissance aircraft, carrying a Downwards Looking IR Camera and two SLIRs (Sideways Looking Infra Red) in place of the Guns. The freed up Ammo storage space contained hi-speed video recorder for each camera.
They would not have been used as part of an attack package, however, they may have been sent in afterwards for damage assessment.
Vitez za života, kao vitez i poginuo!!!
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I visited the monument last year, and i leave a letter❤️
Ne vredi brate... Kome ti to da objasniš, i kome da kažeš šta je bio uzrok bestijalnog iživljavanja nato džukela po Srbiji.
@@CenturionDobrius Tko se četiri godine iživljavao nad nevinim građanima Yugoslavije? Nasilnici Srbi se dočepali oružja i terorizirali ubijali i klali! Svakom baji (S- rbinu) dođe kraj, šteta što je trajalo kratko (Mislim na ovu NATO intervenciju) trebali su vas malo duže tamburati, bolje bi naučili da i nad bajom ima baja!
GOD BLESS SRBIJA!
Nice vid demonstrating these historic events.
Thanks for commenting!
Great video content. Thanks for keeping forgotten history alive through your productions. ☯️🎩♠️🏁
Thank you very much, I'm glad you like the content!
I really enjoy your historical recreations using DCS. Thank you for taking the time to do the research and present them to us. You do a great job.
Thank you for your support, I'm glad you like the content!
@@showtime112 Not entirely accurate historic reasons, though..
Ovo je realna priča te vazdušne bitke. Bravo za kanal. Milenko Pavlović je srpski heroj.
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Awsome video. Is it just me or did your video quality improve a lot? I love these kinds of videos as they depict aviation stories you rarely hear about.
I don't know. I hope it did 😁 Thanks for your support!
As Always, Well Done ST. Well Done.
Thanks for the support!
A beautiful historical recreation. Good work.
Thanks, I appreciate your support!
One helluva video brother keep this up
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Thanks a lot, your support is appreciated!
Never fails to deliver
Thank you so much for your comment!
The good colonel deserved a medal.
He got an air base named after him. The main one, I believe.
@@showtime112 And he took off in the ONE Lastocha that wasn't broken.
Keep these super videos coming, please
Thanks a lot. More content coming up!
The "LIKE" I gave you was 501st! 😁
I really like watching your videos and hope you get recognised by many more viewers. Thank you for your effort!
Also, I wish you happy new year and all the best to you, your familly and all your viewers! Cheers! 🎄🥂🙋🏼♂️
You can always unclick the like and go for the round 1000 😁😁😁 Thanks for this latest comment and a happy 2022 to you!
So many brave lives lost to old men's ambitions. RIP all warriors from all ages
Sretna nova godina, i još puno puno videa
Hvala, sve najbolje i tebi!
This Serbian Colonel was an exceptionally good leader and stupendously brave. Shame on the Serbian leadership for not supporting their Air Force and their men like they should have done with the funding they needed so as not have about 100% of their missions be suicide. Having been at Aviano AB I can say that the F-16 taxing in the video looks just like the real thing. Pretty remarkable.
I could say that if they couldn't have provided their pilots with proper equipment, they shouldn't have sent them to fight like that. That air base is actually southern Russia 😁
the sanctions imposed on Serbia from 1992 onwards meant that the Mig-29’s were in a poor state, many of the aircraft had non-functional RWR’s and radars.
@@showtime112 I agree, they lost an irreplaceable Wing commander for no good reason.
There was no chance for Serbia to support their Air Force due to sanctions. Just saying it now 3:31. US even wanted to sanction Switzerland. Switzerland was forced to change its constitution. And now our Air Force bought Patriot, useless-Pac-uselessNumber. At least only 70 missils of useless variant. That shows how much they rate the system.
Very good video and great work.
Someone should take and add subtitles for video "Let u smrt "
It was well done and emotional documentary.
Thanks! I agree, whoever is interested in this topic would find it interesting.
Impressive, as always. I remember reading about a Dutch pilot shooting down a MiG during this campaign. Was that a separate incident, or was it - as noted in the video - an erroneous report that actually refer to this particular aerial fight?
Thanks! A Dutch pilot, Colonel Peter Tankink was credited with a MiG-29 kill in the beginning of the war, that is not related to this story. However, the Serbian pilot who was hit that time claims that it was a Serbian surface-to-air missile that shot him down by mistake. He supposedly had a ground radar warning just before he was hit.
you deserve way more subs
Thanks! The number is growing so I'm not worried 😁
Great video.
That was one very brave pilot…
Well yeah. He had problems sending his men knowing that they would probably die.
Great work!
So glad you appreciate it 😉
Profi odradjeno i najvaznije ne pristrasno👍 . Samo cepaj
Hvala na pozitivnom komentaru!
Great channel!!
Thank you for your support!
our planes were suffering maintenance issues as well , a few both in Iraq and over there never saw the missile coming because the warning system was down and Basher 1-1 was shot down in his f-16 because he couldn't hear his wing-man call missile warning he had a broken warning and radio
True, equipment often fails even when properly maintained.
As usual, it is an amazing video :D I wish you a happy new year. Pozdrav iz Splita
Were the Serbian Mig-29 armed with R-27 missiles at the time of the conflict? I am aware that these are older SARH missiles, but probably they could score some hits with them?
Thanks! The MiG-29 did carry R-27s. But when facing multiple enemies armed with a Fox3 missile, that is very hard. MiG-29 only had a chance if it could get near enough for an IR missile shot.
All of them carried 2 R-27Rs and 4 R-73Es. As far as is publically known, only Abdul Emeti got a R-27R lock but he had to break it since he was being targeted
impossible task indeed, with all the CAP sorties & AWACS support….
Great story, great video .Nice to see a brief look of a Tornado
Thanks! It would be great to have it as a high-fidelity module.
The younger Yugoslavian pilot who was ordered not to fly must have felt bad after hearing his commander had been shot down and killed.
I couldn't find details about him other than his name but there must have been some 'survivor's guilt' there.
Minor point. The Squadron badge on the RAF Tornado denotes No. 2 Squadron. They were equipped for Tactical Reconnaissance, having a downward looking Infra Red Camera and two SLIRs (Sideways Looking Infra Red) in place of the Guns. The freed up ammunition storage areas contained Hi-speed video recorders for each of the cameras. They would not have been part of an attack package, although they may have been sent in afterwards for damage assessment.
Hey Bob! Love your music, btw! 😁 Thanks for providing additional details. I have to say that I didn't research that particular aspect too much. There are several Tornado skins in DCS and I couldn't easily find out which squadron was involved in OAF (or doing which role). I'll have to hire more people and form a research team 😁
@@showtime112 I only knew because I was on the Squadron when they converted to the Tornados (Laarbruch) and went out to Gulf War 1 where we did Tac Recce.
Vecna slava i hvala Milenku Pavlovicu.Srbija mora pamtiti svoje heroje.Mozda smo izgubili poneku bitku ali SRBIJA UVEK POBEDjUJE !
Im from Serbia myself. Nato left a deep hole in our hearts. Pavlovic was our last hope. He succided, but, sadly, died. We salite you Mr. Pavlović.
Great! I would like to make a suggestion: English Vulcan x Brazilian F5E, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, 1982.
Thanks! I am familiar with the story. We have the F-5, Vulcan mod is being developed. Problem is that Rio landscape is so recognizable. Maybe the new South Atlantic map will give us a better scenery for that.
We have a saying in our local dialect that translates roughly like " you can say if the infant is not going to last from the form of his shit." Those poor pilots in Serbian air force must have felt something like that when looking upon the overused airframes they were edict to use even more and simply die trying. Loss of soldiers lives is always sad. Because we all know, war is anything but honorable or glorious...
Which dialect
Thanks for sharing your views!
@@jakovhrga5619 one of the many on the fringes of Persian...
@@sohrabroozbahani4700 Very well said. I couldn't recognize the proverb though, can u help me on it? :)
I'm sure it's difficult to fight a group of fighters, being a single ship death wish more than likely, outstanding video
So it seems. His family said that he would usually wave from his car when leaving home. This time, he didn't do it. Thanks for another comment, it helps a lot!
@@showtime112 your videos are beyond reproach to me, keep up the good work.
Super prodction as always, if I am to nitpick, our choice of a casual 'happy' font for the captions is a little odd given the scenarios,perhaps something stately or clean would be better.
Thanks for the feedback. It never occurred to me that this font might be seen as happy. I rather thought it was just different. I'll consider something else in the future.
Colonel Pavlovic:a man of courage and principles.Against all odds,leading from the front in an unequal fight.My condolences to his family and comrades.
Love the simulations! Would love to see one involving RF-4C Tactical Reconnaissance mission in Vietnam.
Thanks for the comment! We will get the E model of Phantom this year and it's unlikely that a dedicated recon version will be made. It could be approximated to some extent though.
That’s a leader and a man people had to be proud to serve under.
This is the story of a Hero: Pavlovic CCCC❤️
Svaka cast za video i kanal uopste,alal vera
Hvala na komentaru.
Srećna nova godina!
i also like the people on the ground perspective camera!
Thanks for the feedback, I like to include that whenever possible.
The pilot Iljo Arizanov had a lock on unknown plane at Kosovo sky. He locked him with R-27 but ground control told him not to fire.... Great video friend. Suggest you to watch documentary,, Niko nije rekao neću"
Also i cant understand the pilot which downed MiG-29...He was happy about that but man you killed a young human being... However the war could be avoided if Milosevic listened...
Thanks for your comment! I have watched the documentary you suggest. As for the American pilot, I suppose pilots are trained to think they fight enemy equipment first and humans second. Maybe this goes for soldiers generally in every armed force.
@@showtime112 yeah... Definitively thats the vase with pilots,but i also think that our pilots would act same as american pilot
He was shot by Cesar Rico Rodriguez. Survived, with heart problems.
Iljo nije nikad rekao da su mu zabranili da puca, to je izmisljotina. Iljo i ostali su treba da ispale sve rakete na milosevicevi rezidenciju i tako spase svoju zemlju i narod!
@@Denkooo100 ja nisam rekao da mu su mu zabranili nego da ne puca..
There is Serbian song that is describing this situation, some of lyrics are:
"NATO SQUADRON ABOVE VALJEVO,
4. MAY NINETY-NINE,
ME IN THE PLANE 16 ON 1,
I DEFEND MY PEOPLE AND I MUST NOT SURRENDER!
I HEAR NOTHING IS RIGHT,
RENADES ARE FLYING ATTACKING US AGAIN FROM THE SKY,
ME IN THE PLANE 16 ON 1,
LONG LIVE SERBIA I WILL NOT SURRENDER!
They're ready to target that factory,
destroy the city, they say they also have tactics.
Damn them, the children will not die!!!
I get on the plane and start the machine.
The radar has failed and the sky is on fire,
run away cowards you are not welcome here
I will give my life, let it hurt me!
I'm going after them, I'm not afraid of anything.
I attack bravely, I will try to break them,
there are so many I almost can't count them.....
So they run away even if there are 16 of them,
and I have them, but they also have me......"
On the english it dosent sound that good, but point is important
Link of the song: ruclips.net/video/-PFgsJvFZRY/видео.html
svaka ti čast na snimku milenko počivaj u miru
Hvala na komentaru!
There was also a report that Col Pavlovic, died near his home village, and for me that is extremely poetic, his life ended where it all began
Nice video
Thanks a lot!
Impressive story, do you know why Milenko Pavlovic didn't try to climb higher to have a better energy state ? In the vid I see that the Mig29 is at quite a low altitude, which is good for defending missles but not good for launching them. Do you think he knew he wouldn't get to launch a missle anyway and decided to give himself the best chance at survival (even though he thought he'd die) ?
I guess he tried to get as close to them as possible, given that he was in a technologically very inferior and defective aircraft, so it was impossible to hit them from a greater distance, and in a dogfight he might as well do something
@@sash91216 yeah, seems like it
You know how in Vietnam migs stayed low, then striked in from below. That's probably one of the tactics used.
@@balkancommenterwithseveree7552 nowadays fighter aircraft have "look down shoot down" radars that have a wide cone of detection that can also scan below the nose of the aircraft that houses the radar. I guess those Vietnam era tacticts failed to be updated for the newer tehnology in radars.
Like these other views, I also suppose he was trying to stay low to avoid detection or at least to delay it long enough to get a chance to launch a missile. But it seems that an AWACS spotted him very early.
A story I wasn't aware of. Very sad, and a needless sacrifice it seems.
Commanding officers are expected to be ready to send people to death if there's something that can be achieved. Palvović probably thought there was nothing to achieve there and he couldn't send someone else.
10 hours per year of flight time? That’s like giving local police rifles and sending them to the front of a war. Just not trained at all. Death sentence
Yeah. Economic sanctions are a very slow weapon but they do work. We can draw parallels with the current situation.
Brave Colonel.
You should do the infamous Banja luka incident. Basically a slow Tuesday for the F-16
I don't have the exact types of aircraft involved in the incident but they might be be approximated with something else. Perhaps I'll do it someday.
A real hero.
No need to say who...
Jel bi mogao malo obradit taj ECM na F-16.Gledao sam na engleskom ali nerazumijem učemu je razlika upalio samo broj 1 ili sve.
Malo sam stavio tutoriale u drugi plan. Vidjet ću hoću li ih opet početi raditi negdje u budućnosti ali ne mogu specificirati točno kada.
ECM se pokazao kao ubojito efikasan jos u Pustinjskoj Oluji. Npr. Iracki pilot MiG-29 Jameel Sayhood je uletio u blisku borbu sa americkim F-15C najvjerovatnije usled efikasnog "jamminga" od strane koalicionih aviona. Naravno, izgubio je protiv daleko obucenijeg americkog pilota.
Kako god komentarisali naši piloti su se hrabro borili protiv NATO alianse i hrabro poginuli . A i dobro se zna da smo vam zaboli nož u srce kad smo vam oborili ponos amerike F117 ... veliki pozdrav od ARJ PVO NEVA SA125 PECHORA 😎 da da taj sam bum bum...
exelent.......greatings from Yugoslavia
Thanks! Ili da kažem, hvala!
Are there plans for a video about the flights of Abdul Emeti and Boro Zoraja which happened on the 6th of April?
Emeti even got a lock on a target but didn't fire, and Zoraja chased 3 bandits (F-16s apparently???) away over the border near Macedonia
Possibly, if I find enough details about i.
How about getting the subtitles off the screen. They are taking up a third to a half of the screen.
Subtitles sre optional, you can turn them off yourself. It's like one click.
While it is impressive, unless you have an urgent need to get up and into the air, you do not take off using afterburners when taking off from a long runway. If you are just taking off on a more or less routine patrol you do not use them as they burn a lot of fuel that you could otherwise use to extend the mission duration.
"War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing eachother." - Niko Belic GTA IV
A bit cynical but not entirely wrong :)
Small note: There is a info that AC generator failed and he reported it.
Nice
Thanks!
during that fight, people in Valjevo started to go outside because "something started to happen in the sky over Valjevo", it looked like our pilots were fighting NATO back and people started to cheer on the street and were looking to find pilot who crashed nearby. Unfortunately Yugoslav AA downed our MIG.
The video is wrong? Im not familiar with this incident at all.
Slava mu i hvala!
This is like a Lamborghini vs El Camino.
What you think about a fight between PAF F16 vs Indian mig 21 BISON On 27 Feb 19 ?
To brate , ovo se cekalo 👍
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Can you make a vid about the Venezuela Coup f16 vs bronco?
We don't have the Bronco in DCS. If a model should appear, I will consider it. Was there also a Tucano shot down?
@@showtime112 yesss, tucano and bronco. There is a vid about the f16 vs bronco. But you clearly hear more then 2 aircraft flying. So I’m curious how it all went.
je l ce biti skorije obaranje f-117?
Bit će svakako. Ne znam još kada. Čim mi dođe inspiracija 😁
@@showtime112 Gledaj da se ne upecaš na priču o otvorenim vratima bomb bay-a. To je podvala.
That Mig-29 is to my 👁 a beautiful design, but so is the F-16, I also think whenever I see a tornado FB I see an F-105 Thud!! Sorry this fine leader died in this mission! Rest In Peace!!
Milenko nije imao ni ispravan radar,njegov mig je trebao da se remontuje a on iz svog prkosa i osecaja nepravde je sam svojom odlukom "ukrao" avion i poleteo upravcu Valjeva da nanese makar nekakvu stetu. Zato se emisija i zove "Let u smrt" jer je bio samo on i pored toga nije mu ni avion bio ispravan.
Moguće je da mu je radar bio neispravan. Onda mi je malo neobična rečenica "vidim ih ali vide i oni mene". Je li onda mislio da ih vidi vizuelno? "Vide oni mene" se moralo odnositi na to da mu RWR javlja da ga vide na radaru.
@@showtime112 naravno kretao se nisko da ga ne bi lako uhvatili americki radari dok ih nije vizuelno video na nebu, kazu da je bilo 16 nato aviona i on se "zaleteo" ka njima gde su neki avioni americki odmah promenili kurs a taj F16 je odmah ispalio raketu na njega. Milenkov avion nije imao nista sem topa nije imao rakete jer ni sistemi za ispaljivanje raketa nisu radili bio je skroz elektronski neispravan avion. Imas pesmu na YT o Milenku ostavicu ti link, pesma opisuje dogadjaj.
ruclips.net/video/-PFgsJvFZRY/видео.html
@@showtime112 Iako kasno ali da odgovorim, Milenko je na svom SPO imao signalizaciju da ga vide u osmatrackom rezimu a ne u nisanskom iako su vec tada lansirali rakete na njega. Otuda njegov pravolinijski let pred sam pogodak. Na zalost nije imao ispravan avion. Bio je vrhunski pilot... Slava mu.
@@miles8421 Hvala za dodatne podatke. Pretpostavljam da SPO nije registrirao AMRAAM ispaljen iz TWS moda.
@@showtime112 Tako je.
Would have been nice if you addressed the obvious question... Why didn't he eject?
The most logical conclusion would be that he was killed on the impact.
make vide about F117 ahoot dawn in serbia and goust off Misuri please
F-117 will be covered but I need to find more info about it.
Cool
Thanks for the comment!
The French aircraft looked like Mirage F-1's, am I correct on this one?
Yes, those are F1s. None of the sources specify which of the French aircraft participated in the Alpha flight, they could have also been Jaguars or Mirage 2000s. But with F1 coming to DCS soon as a high-fidelity module, this felt right.
@@showtime112 I think in operation AF we had M2000 operating from the land and Super Étendard from the old carrier Foch. Possibly F1CR for recon too.
sad to see a beautiful Mig 29 destroyed in seconds like that, with no chance to fight back at all, it wasn't a dogfight more a turkey shoot
It's even worse for those on the ground that the MiG throws bombs at.
@@Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT I was aboard an aircraft carrier few years earlier 93 to 94 ,in Adriatic sea till mid 1995, the job has to be done and i suppose we did we worked hard night and day we all knew what happened over there many people died and i kept that in mind every day to stay focused during flight deck ops...
@@Only_God_Is_Allah_SWT mig 29 was not used to hit targets on land in 1999 so keep quiet because you are not informed enough
Where can i get this game
www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/
Why Pavlović didnt eject from plane? Didnt have parachute?
Most likely, he was dead at the impact.
He was flying in broken MIG29 against F16
A Dutch F16 shot down a mig 29 earlier in the conflict. March 1999 i think. Perhaps that caused some confusion with this fight.
Might be. Even though there is more than a month between the two events.
Yeah. I remember ages ago I heard audio recording of radio comms from that event. Dutch pilot was trying to remain cool and professional, but he couldn't contain his excitement. He was speaking English, but you could make out his Dutch accent.
@@stephenscallion38 You don't happen to remember where you heard this radio comms? Was it online somewhere?
@@showtime112 Joj, to ti je bilo jako davno, tamo sredinom 2000-tih, kada sam naveliko igrao simulaciju Falcon 4.0 tj. njegove modove Open Falcon i Free Falcon. Sjećam se da sam skinuo taj file sa njihovog foruma čiji sam bio član, jer je netko uploadovao taj file na forum.
Nažalost, ti forumi su davno ugašeni, a moj hard disk na kojem je bio taj file je odavno izdahnuo.
Probao sam njuškati po BMS forumu (nasljednik Open Falcona), ali nisam ništa našao.
Vjeruj mi zemljače da bi stvarno volio da ti mogu poslati taj file, jer znam da bi ti mogao biti vrlo koristan u stvaranju videa koje inače volim gledati te iznimno cijenim tvoj rad, no nažalost previše je vremena prošlo.
@@stephenscallion38 Ma mislio sam da je tako nešto. Inače sam baš sretan kad nađem neki HUD tape i originalnu radio komunikaciju jer to baš pogidne video. Nisam dosad naletio na nekakvu bazu toga već sporadično. Možda se negdje pojavi.
The Serbian pilot was a hero, and that would be true whatever country he came from, RIP.
BOTH planes - Absolutely WICKED
So true.
Flying against f16 block50 in a mig29 is nothing more than a deathwish
In different circumstances, they could have done some damage. But not without support of AWACS, ECM airplanes etc.
Meh, what is f-16 without that awacs?
Mobius 1 vs Yellow 13 but budget cuts
Thanks a lot for your explanation.I m still wondering how no Mig 29has ever shot down a F16...may be Russian airctaft have never more than idle copies of western counterparts...Happy new year.Nouredine
Thanks for commenting! Well, circumstances were usually against the MiGs. They are inferior in some aspects but generally, they were flown by less trained pilots and lacked AWACS support.
Because only the early 80's A models were used in combat by mostly smaller countries in small quantity with poor maintenance and pilot training against overwhelming air superiority by opposition forces with up to date technology and good pilots. It is not hard to fail in these circumstances.
Uniquement des victoire sur jeux et simu. Car dans le réel ? ??
Who only wins in games and simulations? F-16? You must be on some serious drugs dude.
Kinda creepy knowing your a dead man flying..."They got me"..
You could say so. Hard to imagine unless you've been in that situation.
this game you can play but i dont know your game name is what
I was on the USS Theodore Roosevelt in the Mediterranean when this happened.
Thanks for sharing!