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I could hear the Mig-29 crying as it fell to the Earth in the last two rounds. The F-35A can pull 9G turns like the Viper which makes it absolutely insane in a dogfight. It even has its own version of the AIM-9X that can be fired backwards. I want to see the Fulcrum Vs. the F-35 in a BVR fight next. The F-35 also has nickname that sounds better than Fat Amy. Panther.
to be fair, this appears to have been less of a fight of the Mig-29 vs the F-35 but more of a fight between the 9x and the archer. The reliability of your archers was a catastrophe, my god. OTOH, his 9x just went "oh did I just go by? Boom" and still blew your tails off xDD
I'm old enough to remember when the MiG-29 was still the sexiest thing the Soviets had in the air. Used to play "MiG-29 Fulcrum" on my Amiga in 1990 - loved the plane - rubbish simulator - nothing could beat the 1988 "F/A 18 Interceptor" simulator - revolutionary for its day (anyone old enough will remember the exhilaration of flying under the Golden Gate Bridge). DCS's great-great-grand-pappy!
I'm old enough to remember when magazines had photos of the "new Soviet superfighters" and it was the Mig-29 and the Mig-31 (yeah, not a fighter, go sue those magazines). The Su-27 wasn't even mentioned! I fell in love with the Mig-29 back then, and the Su-27 later, and to this day they look like the sexiest fighters to me. I confess I cannot adapt to the looks of the later generations, F-22, F-35, Su-57... I get they are better aircraft, but their looks do nothing for me. On the Western side, I'm still an F-14/15/18 fan.
@@theandf Agreed, the Soviet/Russian MiGs and especially Flankers have a fantastic menacing muscular elegance that I don't think any of the Western fighters could rival. That said, I'm a sucker for the Hornet (pre-super days). The lines of the current flying triangular bricks leave me cold.
One thing to note for the f35, is it’s reported ability to lock onto other aircraft, independent of its nose position. If true, the f35 could achieve a lock and fire before the opposing aircraft can turn into the f35, jam the WEZ or point its nose at the F35 to achieve its own lock.
not only that, it has capability to feed both modernized 9X and 120D data throughout theyr flight, as long as radar can see the target that missile should be looping around for another go even after miss
The F-35's thermal cameras can feed data to the AIM-9X prior to launch. Basically it has sensors for heat seeking missiles independent of the missile for it to use in any aspect of the fight
I'm a HUGE fan of the F-14 but I have to admit, in a HOBS fight the F-14 would get smoked. The lack of a HMS and archaic AIM-9's is just a death sentence. Guns only is a different story though.
it's got a really neat external model but this is the one with the F-15C cockpit iirc; it also doesn't contain pretty much any of the systems that make the F-35 so formidable.
@GrowlingSidewinder I'm assuming the only way to really fly it in DCS will be using a VR headset that simulates the Augmented reality overlays while looking through the visor? That 30x40 degree "window" in the center of the visor display that is your "HUD" enables you to look "through" the airplane, while maintaing normal peripheral vision outside of it will be tough to simulate otherwise.
I think it is also fair to point out that the F-35 is capable of 360 degree target locking. basically in a dogfight if the 35 pilot can see you, so can their missiles.
YO GS this is crazy after first kill on the f35 i was literally thinking about how the f35 was not meant to be in these situations and it would most probably never get to the merge and as i was having that conversation with myself you called me out on exactly what i was thinking. Either you are an actual mind reader or i have been watching too many of your videos. Good God keep it up man XD
Restrictions inflicted by the usaf supposedly made the radar/targeting essentially useless tough I do think it's reasonable to not trust the government or the propagandists when they say that
At 13:33 it seems like the AA-11 Archer was tracking the F-35 until it decided to track the AIM-9X. It could be just tracking the flares, but the way it turned with the AIM-9X was weird to me.
Watching that first-round missile make the last-meter turn into your engines in slow motion was pretty cool. And then in round 3, I couldn't see his 9X at all, either first-run or in the replay. I'm still fairly impressed at a comparatively-elderly plane like the MiG-29 killing the F-35 twice in six rounds.
7:20 Exactly. The F-35 can pick its' fights and likely wouldn't pick a close one with a Mig-29. They call in their friends for those. (Friend is Raptor.)
I thoroughly enjoy this style video! Hypotheticals aside. I’ve enjoyed the last year or two of mission scenario themed videos , but this reminds me of the content that brought me to this RUclips page
These modern Fox-2 fights maybe aren't as good for videos because they are over so quickly, but I do appreciate that you include them occasionally because the high tension, one mistake and your done action is quite enjoyable!
I‘d love to see a BVR scenario with a swarm of F-35 playing out their strengths with that integrated data exchange and target designation…..or whatever that modern electronic gadgets are called that they say Fat Amy is capable of……
Man that second death of yours was crazy... I never saw him shoot. And that bothers me. For that reason alone I wished you'd do a tacview every now and then. Just to figure out how you died or killed somebody without knowing exactly how or why. I don't like not knowing. lol.
Glad I'm not the only one. I know the 9X is capable of some crazy shit, but I rewound the video 4 times and still can't see when the F-35 fired that missile
MiG-29 definetly one of my favourites in DCS, especially for dogfights. Once you learn to utilise dif. thrust and the g-limiter override, you can put the gravity on standby mode and become a UFO for a minute. Tho i have to say, shit gets real when you waste your fox-2's and are in a gunfight with a viper
We need a real "face off"....a modernized MiG-29 vs. a Su-27. Same design philosophy but a premium fighter vs. a dedicated dogfighter. Kind of like an F-15C against an F-16.
After you said "Something as old as a Mig-29..." 12:43 I was curious so did a little research Mig-29 First flight: October 1977 Introduced: August 1983 Su-27 First flight: May 20 1977 Introduced: December 1984 F-16 First flight: January 1974 Introduced: August 1978 F-15 First flight: July 1972 Introduced: January 1976 That makes the deadly and sexy F-15 positively ancient.
I don’t know if it is a characteristic of the 9X to proxifuse while the Archer doesn’t? But I feel like you might have a bit of a reason to feel slightly robbed as your missile when just as close as his did but you didn’t get the proxifuse detonation. Otherwise I am surprised at how well the F35 did in the 1 circle and 2 circle fights considering all the talk of how it isn’t a dogfighter
something i never see talked about in regards to the F35 is the 4-element compound LERX that comprises the intake (thats the primary reason why the intake has that sharp point on it), it makes what looks like a fat and cumbersome plane into an absolute rate monster that can easily match the likes of the F16, that's why it was able to just absolutely RIP around the two-circle on the deck there
Thanks for the drinking challenge at 7.40ish. To quote someone, hold my beer, wine or spirits. I have not passed out yet. But, in my defense, I am ex infantry...
@@Cars-N-Jets there is no chance a single F-35, for all of the awesome things it can do, could take the role of the flying bomb truck that is the A-10 in a CAS role.
Okay, your first shot of the last round straight out glitched! That round was totally yours. Anyways, it's a real shame you didn't put one of those meme overlays you tend to use sometimes as your missile phased through the F 35.
F-35 Maybe not best performing plane ever made,but it delivers weapons really good. Very impressive for both planes,at those short ranges anything can happen.
for an aircraft that has been labeled "fat Amy" and not "built for dogfighting" the F-35 crushed the Mig-29 on this one, the last aircraft that was built, primarily for dogfighting
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Thank you for finally doing a F-35 video! We need more of this!
Next time fly the F35!
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx
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@GrowlingSidewinder
This was awesome! I’m 1000% down for more of this style video!
Your choice of planes, but more of these hobs fights!
I could hear the Mig-29 crying as it fell to the Earth in the last two rounds.
The F-35A can pull 9G turns like the Viper which makes it absolutely insane in a dogfight. It even has its own version of the AIM-9X that can be fired backwards.
I want to see the Fulcrum Vs. the F-35 in a BVR fight next.
The F-35 also has nickname that sounds better than Fat Amy.
Panther.
Thought just one time he might be flying the F35. I dared to dream.
Lol was thinking the same thing!
F-35 model doesn’t have a cockpit I believe
@@Jay_the_AV8R then how does people even fly them agains him?
@@comradeboris2335 it looks like the FC3 f15 or the su25
The cockpit of an f35 is a giant screen theres no hud since they have HMDs
That kill the F-35 got in the first dogfight was honestly insanely impressive, the fact he launched that missile and lead it perfectly to hit dead on.
"The Mig-29 *might* be the underdog guys..." HAHAHAHAHAHA classic GS trying to pump up his hopes
@@geerrr3516 classic GS moment lol
It's like he dropped it on him more that fired it.
Honestly, that was so close the -35 could have been caught in its own missile blast. What a gutsy move!
@@Vespuchian yeah if he was a second late then for sure.
to be fair, this appears to have been less of a fight of the Mig-29 vs the F-35 but more of a fight between the 9x and the archer. The reliability of your archers was a catastrophe, my god. OTOH, his 9x just went "oh did I just go by? Boom" and still blew your tails off xDD
"Wait a minute...what's he doin..." WHAM-O...lawn dart. -Made my day.
Yup.
Yep. 💯
I'm old enough to remember when the MiG-29 was still the sexiest thing the Soviets had in the air. Used to play "MiG-29 Fulcrum" on my Amiga in 1990 - loved the plane - rubbish simulator - nothing could beat the 1988 "F/A 18 Interceptor" simulator - revolutionary for its day (anyone old enough will remember the exhilaration of flying under the Golden Gate Bridge). DCS's great-great-grand-pappy!
I'm old enough to remember when magazines had photos of the "new Soviet superfighters" and it was the Mig-29 and the Mig-31 (yeah, not a fighter, go sue those magazines). The Su-27 wasn't even mentioned! I fell in love with the Mig-29 back then, and the Su-27 later, and to this day they look like the sexiest fighters to me. I confess I cannot adapt to the looks of the later generations, F-22, F-35, Su-57... I get they are better aircraft, but their looks do nothing for me. On the Western side, I'm still an F-14/15/18 fan.
@@theandf Agreed, the Soviet/Russian MiGs and especially Flankers have a fantastic menacing muscular elegance that I don't think any of the Western fighters could rival. That said, I'm a sucker for the Hornet (pre-super days). The lines of the current flying triangular bricks leave me cold.
It's still sexy today, To be Honest. I've seen Jared Isachmens Mig and it looks awesome!
grew up playing F/A-18 Hornet 2.0 simulator. Good times, Still amazed I played it so much considering my young age at the time.
@@Miratesus It was definitelly the best for it's time. Especially 1.0, because when it was released there was nothing even close
One thing to note for the f35, is it’s reported ability to lock onto other aircraft, independent of its nose position. If true, the f35 could achieve a lock and fire before the opposing aircraft can turn into the f35, jam the WEZ or point its nose at the F35 to achieve its own lock.
not only that, it has capability to feed both modernized 9X and 120D data throughout theyr flight, as long as radar can see the target that missile should be looping around for another go even after miss
It's just turning your head. The nose doesn't need to be on your opponent. It still helps though.
apparently this isnt installed on F35s yet. Its coming in a future upgrade. Maybe thats why we didnt see it in this video?
@@Asghaad I have hear that the F 35 can also rely targeting information to other airframes like the F 22
The F-35's thermal cameras can feed data to the AIM-9X prior to launch. Basically it has sensors for heat seeking missiles independent of the missile for it to use in any aspect of the fight
WE WANNA SEE YOU IN THE F35!!!!
When the mod matures a little more I will use the f35 it’s just not quite there yet.
rematch
@@GrowlingSidewinderI feel like pilots also saying this for real 😅
@@infosuge no, they are not. If you think F-35 is not a mature platform you are like a decade behind lol
The F-35 had to have caught some shrapnel from that first AIM-9X hit
GS didn't even see the 9x in the third round 😂😂
I havent seen it too
Reducing smoke trails is a major factor in modern era AAMs.
@@Potatochips950 A very good point.
i got scared
@@Potatochips950 exact reason i lose a lot of dogfights against my friend who flies the f16, and my r73 is basically doing aerobatics with smoke on
Dont know why, but for some reason, I want to see a modern NATO MiG-29 go up against an Iranian F-14
lol, that would be fun !!!
I'd love to see that. It would be quite an interesting fight
I'm a HUGE fan of the F-14 but I have to admit, in a HOBS fight the F-14 would get smoked. The lack of a HMS and archaic AIM-9's is just a death sentence. Guns only is a different story though.
The irony 😂🤣
You know exactly why.
First F-35 literally dunked on GS with that missile. Good shot by Breaker, wonder if we'll ever see GS use the F-35.
When the f35 mod matures a little I will use it. It’s just not there yet.
it's got a really neat external model but this is the one with the F-15C cockpit iirc; it also doesn't contain pretty much any of the systems that make the F-35 so formidable.
That one didn't even need a motor. He just dumped it straight out of the bay on GS's head.
@@GrowlingSidewinder That is true. Can't wait!
@GrowlingSidewinder
I'm assuming the only way to really fly it in DCS will be using a VR headset that simulates the Augmented reality overlays while looking through the visor?
That 30x40 degree "window" in the center of the visor display that is your "HUD" enables you to look "through" the airplane, while maintaing normal peripheral vision outside of it will be tough to simulate otherwise.
As a Buff crewman back in the 80s, our best tactic against the MiG-29 was "don't".
Man, what a rollercoaster! Lots of "what!?" and "no way!" moments. Fantastic video, great piloting all around.
never seen the tables turn so quickly like in that first round
I think it is also fair to point out that the F-35 is capable of 360 degree target locking. basically in a dogfight if the 35 pilot can see you, so can their missiles.
This. huge advantage with high off boresight weapons launch
On paper
@@shittumustapha9636not really, the lock on after launch on the missile has been tested and used
@@shittumustapha9636 we literally saw the F35 in this demonstration smack GS in a near 180 degree turn
YO GS this is crazy after first kill on the f35 i was literally thinking about how the f35 was not meant to be in these situations and it would most probably never get to the merge and as i was having that conversation with myself you called me out on exactly what i was thinking. Either you are an actual mind reader or i have been watching too many of your videos. Good God keep it up man XD
lol I can confirm I am a mind reader 😂 much love
I would like to see you flying the F-35 on bigger missions
Cockpit isn't modeled. He's not going to fly it.
@@benn454 Yeah it bugs me the cockpit used is not from an American aircraft as well, makes no sense.
@@the_beef4762 the cockpit is from the F-15C, an American aircraft. But yeah it looks really weird there.
@@benn454 thank you. I didn‘t know that. 👍
I'd love to see more with the F-35
That first kill against the Mig29 was clean af.
"The F-35 will never get to the merge..."
That's what they said about the F-4...
Restrictions inflicted by the usaf supposedly made the radar/targeting essentially useless tough I do think it's reasonable to not trust the government or the propagandists when they say that
The show ain't over until the Fat Amy sings.
At 13:33 it seems like the AA-11 Archer was tracking the F-35 until it decided to track the AIM-9X. It could be just tracking the flares, but the way it turned with the AIM-9X was weird to me.
that breakr dude is crazy good
Love seeing a worthy opponent. Please more vids with breakr
9:36 famous last words: ooooohh what's he doin what's he do----- 😭
Three cheers for Fat Amy!
GS: "Take a drink every time we say one-circle in this video... You'll die-"
Me: "Challenge accepte-" *dies before I can finish typing*
"You just fell victim to one of the Classic Blunders! A-HA-haa-haaa-haaah! Ahh-Haa-ha-ha---"
Great job F-35! Certainly exceeded my expectations; I assumed it would get danced on in a dogfight against GS in a MiG-29!
"Oh...what's he doing?..." *BOOM*
That. That's what he's doing. LOL.
Always great! Getting in to DCS because of you here soon. finishing my PC build today!
Finally, an F-35 video! Now we gotta get GS in the cockpit 😉
I'd be up for another Eurofighter BVR/dogfight video. Do you take requests?
How did you get fighter jet emojis?!
@@somewhereinagalaxyfarfaraway he's a channel member.
I tend to route for GS, but I found myself pulling for the F35 this time. Amazing fights. Thank you.
F-35 holds its own in an old fashioned dog fight.
You messing with me
*F35B VS AV8B DOGFIGHT*
Maverick: Too close for missiles, switching to guns... nevermind.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE ARE NO GUNS ON PLANE!!!! Confused screaming
Watching that first-round missile make the last-meter turn into your engines in slow motion was pretty cool.
And then in round 3, I couldn't see his 9X at all, either first-run or in the replay.
I'm still fairly impressed at a comparatively-elderly plane like the MiG-29 killing the F-35 twice in six rounds.
that F35 had some cheat codes enabled.
I’ve been waiting for GS to do another F-35 video
7:20 Exactly. The F-35 can pick its' fights and likely wouldn't pick a close one with a Mig-29. They call in their friends for those. (Friend is Raptor.)
GS, fly the F35 on a mission the F35 was designed for!!!
GS: Gotta jam that WEZ
Aim9x: Er, we don't do that here...
I thoroughly enjoy this style video! Hypotheticals aside.
I’ve enjoyed the last year or two of mission scenario themed videos , but this reminds me of the content that brought me to this RUclips page
These modern Fox-2 fights maybe aren't as good for videos because they are over so quickly, but I do appreciate that you include them occasionally because the high tension, one mistake and your done action is quite enjoyable!
"The IRGC will have a word with you after you have picked up by the SERE team".....
I‘d love to see a BVR scenario with a swarm of F-35 playing out their strengths with that integrated data exchange and target designation…..or whatever that modern electronic gadgets are called that they say Fat Amy is capable of……
i swear those missiles coming from the F-35 act like they just shoot out from a pocket dimension and just appear.
Good Dogfight!!! Not surprised of the outcome either!!! It's all Pilot skill when you get into the merge!!!
Man that second death of yours was crazy... I never saw him shoot. And that bothers me. For that reason alone I wished you'd do a tacview every now and then. Just to figure out how you died or killed somebody without knowing exactly how or why. I don't like not knowing. lol.
Glad I'm not the only one. I know the 9X is capable of some crazy shit, but I rewound the video 4 times and still can't see when the F-35 fired that missile
MiG-29 definetly one of my favourites in DCS, especially for dogfights. Once you learn to utilise dif. thrust and the g-limiter override, you can put the gravity on standby mode and become a UFO for a minute. Tho i have to say, shit gets real when you waste your fox-2's and are in a gunfight with a viper
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
Day 7
This DF gave me the impression of seeing a Honda Civic doing a quarter of mile vs a brand new Audi S4. Fat Amy is such an elegant looking plane;
3:35 Reminds me of when you got hit point blank in the face with an AIM-9X by the F-15S/MTD that one time.
That roll evade at the end was wholesome
Round 6? GS REALLY didn't want to lose to the f35 😆
We need a real "face off"....a modernized MiG-29 vs. a Su-27. Same design philosophy but a premium fighter vs. a dedicated dogfighter. Kind of like an F-15C against an F-16.
F-35 using those 9Xs like a shank in a knife fight!
That last missile went right through the F-35.
After you said "Something as old as a Mig-29..." 12:43 I was curious so did a little research
Mig-29 First flight: October 1977 Introduced: August 1983
Su-27 First flight: May 20 1977 Introduced: December 1984
F-16 First flight: January 1974 Introduced: August 1978
F-15 First flight: July 1972 Introduced: January 1976
That makes the deadly and sexy F-15 positively ancient.
now sepc and date the avionics upgrades
I didn’t know f35 was such a good dogfighter, love to see a dogfight between b and c variants just to see the diff
A BVR fight would be no contest....
Maybe 🤷♂️
@@connorburnes7697It will be clubbing baby seal for the F-35 to go up against anything but the Raptor
@@maxlin3442 Maybe 🤷♂️
I am once again asking for a video from F-35 perspective
I don’t know if it is a characteristic of the 9X to proxifuse while the Archer doesn’t? But I feel like you might have a bit of a reason to feel slightly robbed as your missile when just as close as his did but you didn’t get the proxifuse detonation.
Otherwise I am surprised at how well the F35 did in the 1 circle and 2 circle fights considering all the talk of how it isn’t a dogfighter
something i never see talked about in regards to the F35 is the 4-element compound LERX that comprises the intake (thats the primary reason why the intake has that sharp point on it), it makes what looks like a fat and cumbersome plane into an absolute rate monster that can easily match the likes of the F16, that's why it was able to just absolutely RIP around the two-circle on the deck there
@GS I must confess that I believe you make the finest lawndart videos on the internet.
that was an epic first kill
Amy's 9x method compared to dropping a boulder off an overpass. That, and some net code hiccups.
“Look, Ivan! Actual combat footage Mig-29 superior to blyat American F-35! Invade Europe now!”
The first kill was just him practicing throwing banana peels for next time he boots up Mario kart
Thanks for the drinking challenge at 7.40ish. To quote someone, hold my beer, wine or spirits. I have not passed out yet. But, in my defense, I am ex infantry...
😂 He bombed you with a missle
That was interesting! Great flying!
As so often said, "It's not the Aircraft, but the Pilot of the Aircraft that wins the day."
The F35 actually did better than I expected, didn't realize it was even as maneuverable as shown in this video.
Excellent video. Wicked fast dogfights. Scary.
in round 5 it kinda looks like the archer was perfectly on the f35 but went for the 9x once he fired his fox2
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Dude, I'm actually surprised you didn't lose 0:6 since the F-35 is capable of attacking targets literally on its six!
This Archer made some drift.😂
You should do sims of the F-35 replacing the A-10 like they actually plan on doing
I would like to see that.
@@Cars-N-Jets there is no chance a single F-35, for all of the awesome things it can do, could take the role of the flying bomb truck that is the A-10 in a CAS role.
Okay, your first shot of the last round straight out glitched! That round was totally yours. Anyways, it's a real shame you didn't put one of those meme overlays you tend to use sometimes as your missile phased through the F 35.
It's good to see the underdog winning sometimes, that poor F-35 usually gets clubbed so hard.
15:00 archer decided to take a vacation ig
GS we would love to see some F-35 BVR missions in the same vein as the F-22 content you've been making.
That 35 in the first round would likely have eaten some of it's own shrapnel!
"Uh what's he doing, what's he doing..." BOOM. Spreading Freedom!!! :)
F-35 Maybe not best performing plane ever made,but it delivers weapons really good. Very impressive for both planes,at those short ranges anything can happen.
Quick idea you should swap planes every round
The Mig-29 reminds me of the F-14, both could, and let you do crazy things if you're worthy.
Damn, that guy really kicked your ass with the F-35.
🤡
Love your work Sarah!!!
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this fight.
DCS just said flat out "nope" on your last fox 2 that literally went thru his fuselage in the replay.
I'd love to see more fights using fox 2s!
Fun times! Now I'd like to see them in a guns-only fight. :)
9:40 that crazy impressive to shoot a 9x and it curve like that
Please can you do Typhoon Vs F35 merge. Been watching your videos for a few years now. Love the content. Cheers.
Very impressed with good old mig29's performance in there ! it really is the pilot not the plane
for an aircraft that has been labeled "fat Amy" and not "built for dogfighting" the F-35 crushed the Mig-29 on this one, the last aircraft that was built, primarily for dogfighting
You forgot to arm this F-35 with Pyhon-5 missiles.😂