Can a Real NATO Fighter Pilot Beat me in DCS? MiG-29 Vs F-16 Death Match

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @Aur_Phoenix-ue3zu
    @Aur_Phoenix-ue3zu 2 месяца назад +1262

    Next and last episode on this channel: Can I beat a real NATO Fighter Pilot in Real Life?

    • @toxickilljoy9037
      @toxickilljoy9037 2 месяца назад +47

      Completely uncharted territory

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 месяца назад +107

      Or perhaps not last 😉

    • @perfectcell1157
      @perfectcell1157 2 месяца назад +5

      why are you so butt hurt about it

    • @archieil
      @archieil Месяц назад +29

      I'm pretty sure he would die because of his own acrobatics.
      g matters in a real life ;-)

    • @the3yM
      @the3yM Месяц назад +11

      I drunk vodka with real NATO Figher Pilot in Iceland, 2015, and beat him.

  • @lchan1977
    @lchan1977 Месяц назад +675

    Players will always be better at DCS because there aren't Gs to content with. I believe when I fighter pilot is playing DCS, certain maneuvers may make him subconsciously think is dangerous because in real life he knows there will be a lot of variables to content with, while the DCS player sits comfortably on his gaming chair.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад +81

      Indeed!

    • @ViliRagnarok
      @ViliRagnarok Месяц назад +66

      Watched a video of a fighter pilot play DCS with VR and he started doing G straining exercises out of habit. So this is not out of the question at all.

    • @silverfox9267
      @silverfox9267 Месяц назад +21

      @@ViliRagnarok Yes, when playing CQB vs. Soldiers with airsoft, they absolutely destroy gamers. The closer to reality the more the gamers lose.

    • @mcohanov
      @mcohanov Месяц назад +11

      My friend named this "respect for life", always pulls this out in war thunder air where there is often no survival instincts just pure score chasing

    • @udontneed2know801
      @udontneed2know801 Месяц назад +2

      this 100%

  • @burtleboeuf1429
    @burtleboeuf1429 Месяц назад +214

    Just to point out that it's quite natural that experienced DCS players would have an advantage. They're good at DCS, fighter pilots are good at actual combat fighter plane flying.
    The former is a gameified approximation of the latter.
    To put it in perspective, a fighter pilot can quickly be competent in the game, trading places, an experienced player of DCS would most likely struggle to just take off and land a fighter plane safely.

    • @mangobanana7195
      @mangobanana7195 Месяц назад +15

      He still won though, he's probably not giving it his all too. I imagine some military maneuvers or tactics aren't allowed to be just casually displayed in public, wouldn't be surprised if he was intentionally making mistakes to confuse viewers trying to use this as study material for the real thing.

    • @valinhorn42
      @valinhorn42 Месяц назад

      The same thing for real driving vs simracing or getting into a gunfight between a real specops guy and a Counter-Strike pro...

    • @HalcyonSkies
      @HalcyonSkies Месяц назад +4

      @@mangobanana7195 Most combat flying becomes instinct after you've done it for a while. If you get into that situation, even in VR, a pilot trained to react is still going to react in the same manner that his training dictates. I wonder if the pilot was hesitant on the stick a few times because IRL continuing that move might have damaged the air frame in some way. I'd imagine the mechanics and crew chief would beat that into your head not to stress the aircraft.

    • @bojanvukobradovic2504
      @bojanvukobradovic2504 Месяц назад

      😂😂😂So they haven't simulation 😂😂😂

    • @scimbrelo
      @scimbrelo Месяц назад

      it aint that deep

  • @vineetkaddu1214
    @vineetkaddu1214 2 месяца назад +463

    The Mig 29 is such a sexy bird. It looks like some Combination of A Fighter Jet, A Reptile and An alien Spaceship. This Aircraft Design will forever be one of the most iconic

    • @spencensawyersmom
      @spencensawyersmom 2 месяца назад +4

      Agreed

    • @RedneckRapture
      @RedneckRapture 2 месяца назад +15

      Yeah, it's the iconic 'bad guy' aircraft.

    • @vineetkaddu1214
      @vineetkaddu1214 2 месяца назад +3

      @@RedneckRapture very much so

    • @andylem
      @andylem 2 месяца назад +10

      Very subjective. I find it ugly tbh

    • @zerooneonetwothree1872
      @zerooneonetwothree1872 2 месяца назад +20

      Yes, subjective, i think Sukhoi is so much more beautiful.

  • @ziepex7009
    @ziepex7009 2 месяца назад +47

    Loving the effort put into these videos Cmdt!

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 месяца назад

      Great to hear!

  • @GrantvsMaximvs
    @GrantvsMaximvs 2 месяца назад +108

    Nothing can beat the Viper's turn rate, but the Fulcrum has the same AoA authority as the Hornet

    • @Funkey_Legend
      @Funkey_Legend 2 месяца назад +6

      In dcs, most jets can

    • @specc_s1452
      @specc_s1452 2 месяца назад +3

      Eurofighter>>>

    • @CruLisP
      @CruLisP 2 месяца назад +8

      F16 is a very bad fighter in close quarters i mean 18deg/sec turn rate sustained is very weak compared to other fighters like saab, typhoon, su30s, rafale. In the f16 realistically you can reach 20+ deg/sec for just a few sec but after that youre cooked, because f16 cant sustain high AOA for long period of time coz its unstable asF but if you not use your full potential in the merge you cooked again just because other fighters can sustain that 20+ degree/sec without much of a energy loss

    • @Pukin-Dog
      @Pukin-Dog 2 месяца назад +4

      That's certainly not the case in DCS. It's outrated by several Gen4 fighters.

    • @j0n772
      @j0n772 2 месяца назад +4

      are we just going to forget about the F-18?

  • @alienwar1789
    @alienwar1789 Месяц назад +11

    Flying a real fighter jet is something completely different. You don't have wind turbulence, you don't feel the plane (vibrations, thrust... etc.). No G-forces. You can simulate instruments and everything else, but a flight sim game is nowhere near like real flying.

  • @niapaniapa4
    @niapaniapa4 2 месяца назад +30

    The fight was so close that, metaphorically speaking, it was a knife fight.

  • @iwenameh
    @iwenameh 2 месяца назад +8

    Insane layout w that hotas cam n tac map, w skills, w content. Growling sidewinder got some thinking to do

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 месяца назад

      Haha thanks!

  • @sauli1446
    @sauli1446 Месяц назад +24

    My average enemy in war thunder matches

  • @ComfortsSpecter
    @ComfortsSpecter 2 месяца назад +13

    MIG 29 Gaming moments
    Adorable Vibe
    Great work directing this
    Good Man

  • @Demka03
    @Demka03 2 месяца назад +11

    If you lose your HUD in MIG you can hit 7 key, I guess. You'll have a reticle, it's easier to keep using guns this way

  • @scrubadubdub8360
    @scrubadubdub8360 4 дня назад

    I always put my money on the gamer in these videos, but love em. What usually does surprise me, and actually scares me a bit as a self proclaimed "decent sim pilot" is watching just how quickly the fighter pilots notice what you are doing, and makes these snap judgments on how to minorly tweak an angle, the roll axis, the general give and take of aerial combat in a game the probably haven't or don't play much.

  • @speed3971
    @speed3971 2 месяца назад +20

    It looked like he played with you the whole time.

    • @udirt
      @udirt Месяц назад +2

      Yeah, thought so too, and simply testing out the waters. But oh he got lucky vs oh I missed. It's just we are normal and untrained and they are trained full time, had to study the maths enough to not go "I think this should be a good move now". But whatever, it was fun to watch and surely a lot more fun for them

    • @camencowogh8333
      @camencowogh8333 11 дней назад

      @@udirt ruclips.net/video/T4t2Q2prM8k/видео.html

  • @GrantvsMaximvs
    @GrantvsMaximvs 2 месяца назад +18

    Love it when DCS creators fight real fighter pilots.
    How is the FFB stick? Did he have one?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 месяца назад +1

      Nope, regular TM Warthog

    • @GrantvsMaximvs
      @GrantvsMaximvs 2 месяца назад +1

      @@CommandT I see. I have yet to see a video where a real pilot uses FFB, which is interesting because it would give them more of the haptic cues they rely on.
      ...maybe you could do a video with a real pilot using FFB?

    • @benson4820
      @benson4820 2 месяца назад +2

      @@GrantvsMaximvsI mean, the f16 doesn’t exactly have any feedback on the stick in the first place so I doubt it would help as much

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  18 дней назад

      Well I am a real pilot and I fly aerobatic aircraft in real life, so the concept of using FFB and comparing it to real life is not exactly foreign to me. It’s great 👌

  • @Youthsoldiers1992
    @Youthsoldiers1992 19 дней назад +1

    That late ejection was crazy close, I wasn't expecting that 😂

  • @aaronwhite1786
    @aaronwhite1786 2 месяца назад +11

    I'd be interested to see how you do in the F-14 with that FFB base. I would be curious how nice it would be to fly a heavy but maneuverable old school fighter like that.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 месяца назад +2

      I’m sure it would be pretty cool but unfortunately I don’t have the F-14 so couldn’t tell you.

    • @aaronwhite1786
      @aaronwhite1786 2 месяца назад +2

      @@CommandT I think you can get it with the DCS trial program, if you're interested!

  • @ToreDL87
    @ToreDL87 2 месяца назад +3

    4 mins vs someone good enough that they not only can afford to kid around a little, but actually DO kid around a little. I'm calling that a win in and by itself.
    I bet he was pretty surprised about the amount of energy you could bring to bear when it counted. Because you weren't at full deflection all the time.
    GS is good at it even without FFB but you can tell he overcooks it sometimes, with FFB he would have had no issues.
    FFB is no joke, I wish everyone had it.
    Would stop a lot of people from constantly pulling when the right thing to do is conserve energy for the right moment.

  • @catfood_03_4stray
    @catfood_03_4stray 2 месяца назад +9

    Great dogfight delivered ! If the MiG-29 was equipped with IR-missiles then at 2:55 you would have marked a shot-down, but it was a guns-only engagement.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 месяца назад +14

      Yeah with missiles I think both of us would fly quite differently and probably trade all energy for angles early on

    • @Yikeo
      @Yikeo 2 месяца назад

      True!!!! if the mig 29 had a nuke he would have won as well!!! 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

  • @SanoyNimbus
    @SanoyNimbus 22 дня назад +3

    Is there any kind of G-force simulation in this? Like the computer knows when you loose your sight?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  15 дней назад

      You can grey out and black out under G in DCs

  • @Ningishzidd4
    @Ningishzidd4 11 дней назад

    Ah, this take me back 20 years ago flying on the Flanker2.0 ladder

  • @siuc2903
    @siuc2903 Месяц назад +8

    I guess the real pilots habitually did not use all the capabilities of the F-16 as they feel G force in real life. So they may not pull that hard I guess. We can see MIG-29 pull much more harder in average. Holding over 5 G most of the time. The path of F-16 is much more softer. Although 29’s AoA is better, that’s not the limit of 16.

    • @arranchace1306
      @arranchace1306 Месяц назад

      Same as the difference between a real race car and a sim counterpart (using cars as example as i have no expierence flying, real or sims for comparison), by luck i have a MX5(Miata), represented a lot in racing sims what i play a lot, and i drive it in reality often on trackdays, the difference between the real car and the game car is just by the feel you get from the real car so different, to just correct or understeer/oversteer, dispite having a pretty decent DD wheel is so much harder in a sim, and so much easier in RL due the feedback feeling you have in a real car.
      Maybe it gets better on a full motionrig but its just a day and night difference..
      And its not hard to imagine this is even exaggerated with Fighterjets due much much higher Gforces and speeds and more abrubt manouvres

    • @calvinnickel9995
      @calvinnickel9995 Месяц назад

      High Gs also kill energy.

    • @MrKingglenn
      @MrKingglenn 6 дней назад

      I would personally like to see the other persons views and thoughts as he went through the fight. Was he over pushing G's? Was he toying with his meal? Was he just lucky? Also this was just 1 encounter and until it is repeated multiple times where the F-16 wins its all just a 50/50 coin flip on who lands a snap shop first. In all reality if CommandT wouldn't have misclicked his guns/missile selector, he would have probably splashed him way earlier in the encounter.

  • @Airsoftipsandtricks
    @Airsoftipsandtricks 2 месяца назад +6

    What plane does your friend fly? im very curious now

    • @cockatoo010
      @cockatoo010 Месяц назад

      Right? "NATO" could be anything from the MiG 21s of the Croatian air Force to the F-22 of the USAF or F35 from several air forces.
      All we know is "not F-16" which rules out Portuguese air force though

  • @princenotsocharming128
    @princenotsocharming128 Месяц назад +3

    One of the most glowing differences between "real" fighter pilots and video-game pilots is altitude. Video-game pilots hang out in valleys, while real fighter pilots realize that altitude is a huge advantage.

    • @DreadX10
      @DreadX10 13 дней назад

      Or they just like flying high....
      Although, it is usually the sim guys being high while flying low.

  • @merry1251
    @merry1251 14 дней назад

    graphics quality is just breathtaking

  • @romanbru9504
    @romanbru9504 24 дня назад +1

    Красивый бой, спасибо за видео, очень понравилось что добавляете "схему боя" она показывает пространственное положение самолётов, красивые кинематографичные внешние виды, DCS прекрасен

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  15 дней назад

      Спасибо! Тронут 👍

  • @richpryor9650
    @richpryor9650 Месяц назад +1

    Imagine if the Mig got the same mid-life upgrade that the F-15EX got. Now that's a scary ass plane.

  • @MaksBLACKGOLD
    @MaksBLACKGOLD 2 месяца назад +5

    F-16 he will never butt heads in a dog fight in the sky in real life. air-to-air missile sends greetings

    • @DudemeisterNL
      @DudemeisterNL Месяц назад +3

      Most generic statement ever on dogfighting. That goes for every modern platform.

  • @Pendragon667
    @Pendragon667 17 дней назад

    The moment from right before the kill shot at around 5:09 to the actual kill at 5:15... that was so incredibly fast.
    One wrong move, one small mistake and it's over in seconds. Honestly i didn't see that coming.
    At 5:09, for me it looked you were still in the clear. Dodging, yes. But not that he positioned himself for a kill shot.
    Impressive. Really impressive, from both of you!

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  15 дней назад

      Glad you enjoyed!!

  • @constantinalin9102
    @constantinalin9102 19 дней назад

    WOW man ...what i have just seen??😯😯RESPECT ...i didnt even know is soo much strategy and dificult to pilot
    😧Amazing

  • @paristo
    @paristo Месяц назад +3

    05:25 the best wallpaper ever for fanboys....

  • @matt3606-o3l
    @matt3606-o3l Месяц назад

    Man, that was a cool intro. Earned yourself a sub before I even watched the whole video 👍

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад

      Awesome. Glad to hear 😃

  • @partyfreak3035
    @partyfreak3035 Месяц назад

    Watching fighter pilots dog fight is like watching ballet, chaotic and beautiful

  • @heinzpeztter6510
    @heinzpeztter6510 6 дней назад

    u guys forget that the lumberjacks are no woodcutter record holders

  • @wastool
    @wastool 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm surprised a real fighter pilot would choose to take the F-16 one circle.

  • @OfficialDropRate
    @OfficialDropRate 27 дней назад

    damn i wish yall did a best of 3 for this vid. i was left wanting more from this and it just ended. :(

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  15 дней назад

      Ha. Sorry! Lots of People have short attention spans so didn’t want to make the video too long!

    • @SafeRemain
      @SafeRemain 13 дней назад

      @@CommandT have you tried making longer videos?

  • @HowToZelfie
    @HowToZelfie 10 дней назад

    I wish there were Dogfights like this in warthunder

  • @ilovewater2.026
    @ilovewater2.026 2 месяца назад +1

    I already know this is gonna be great!

  • @DudemeisterNL
    @DudemeisterNL Месяц назад

    Love the PiP Tacview !

  • @CramcrumBrewbringer
    @CramcrumBrewbringer 2 месяца назад +119

    This is the rough equivalent of a gamer 1v1ing a navy seal and thinking he's a better gunfighter.

    • @shir0290
      @shir0290 2 месяца назад +9

      sounds pretty insecure. no one is making it about that except you. dcs is unrealistic because of monetary incentive to make new things competitive and accessible, incompetent devs and inconsistent module quality. however you are still flying with a hotas the same way you fly a real plane, the skills not only translate but are the same fundamentally and sims are an extension of aviation. no one will judge you for your choice to gargle service members balls, but you can show admiration for things you like without detracting from things you don't understand.

    • @adammckenzie6074
      @adammckenzie6074 2 месяца назад +14

      I’d say flight simulator is closer to real life then a fps game lol

    • @RadiantCataclysm
      @RadiantCataclysm Месяц назад +10

      @@shir0290flying in a sim, especially with a HOTAS at home, with never equate to flying an actual plane, especially fighter jets.

    • @pavelkoudelka8934
      @pavelkoudelka8934 Месяц назад

      in a game... but yah, makes sence...

    • @udirt
      @udirt Месяц назад

      ​@RadiantCataclysm flying against a fighter pilot is the best and most fun thing that can happen, but the experience has been consistent. Like in the seven samurai at the start. You hop around and feel all brawly and then you get ended in a moment. Because you only learned to *play* well.
      There's nothing insecure in understanding reality.

  • @VollstandigErleuchtung
    @VollstandigErleuchtung 13 дней назад

    I do agree, and also don't agree with people's take on why it's obvious that a dcs player would be better. It's got a lot of variables, it's like comparing a f1 driver against a sim racer. F1 drivers are better at driving right before that limit, whereas simracers drive on the absolute limit. F1 drivers have to leave something in the bag, whereas sim you'd learn to not leave any cause you got less risks, but that learns simracers to work on that edge with comfort. It's kinda like someone that's more use too driving a car in wet weather, vs dry weather. Adapting to the environment, and what advantages that environment has. The real fighter pilot is adapted to he's, whereas the sim guy is adapted to his. In real fighters, the real pilot will obviously have the advantage instead, in sim the latter as we see here. It's not about whose actually better, that margins would be like a difference of 1% or something like that negligible. Only difference is the Game, The environment, which is more advantageous to who. Either pilot could adapt to the other environment in some time, so it's not as straightforward as saying. My car has 500hp, and yours has 400hp

  • @solarwind9431
    @solarwind9431 2 месяца назад +2

    Ochen krutoi dinamichniy boi ! Ochen klassno poluchilos!

  • @WEMMSproject
    @WEMMSproject 16 часов назад

    flies with the MiG and does not use the helmet visor, let alone the lead computer 😂

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  13 часов назад

      There’s no need for the helmet track since there’s no missiles 🤷‍♂️

    • @WEMMSproject
      @WEMMSproject 13 часов назад

      @ wrong, you can use it to take out the target and then use the lead computer for the on-board cannon. This is feared in US aircraft

  • @heralds
    @heralds 6 дней назад

    Dogfights in these are like using a mech to play chess

    • @heralds
      @heralds 6 дней назад

      But I would watch mech chess too

  • @kayakutah
    @kayakutah Месяц назад +1

    I was an adversary in the Navy (VF-126 and VFC-13) and I'd get my butt kicked consistently in DCS. I just don't think it's very meaningful.
    That was a close pass, at 4:21and U.S. pilots would avoid it, but fighting against a Jaguar flown by a Brit in Oman, he dusted me off about that close. You can never tell what another pilot will do. I was in the F-14, so 180 degrees later, I was behind him pipper on.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад

      Sounds like some very fun real life experiences!!

  • @macbradley6445
    @macbradley6445 Месяц назад

    would your fighter pilot buddy do a ride along with you piloting an IRL Cessna?

  • @santiagoayala2975
    @santiagoayala2975 Месяц назад

    This is similar to another video, I think it was with the videogame Guitar Hero, a player and Iron Maiden's guitarist competed in one of Iron Maiden's songs, and the player won.

  • @paristo
    @paristo Месяц назад

    03:50 and that is the moment when the mistake was done to lose the fight. Not easing with throttle by 10-20% to let him get ahead and get comfortable with speed. Trying to get a shot opportunity for each moment is costly, as very tiny mistake generate so many new vectors for other to take opportunity cash it...

  • @atsimas
    @atsimas 6 дней назад

    Please do a duel with Growling Sidewinder .

  • @mejtalks
    @mejtalks Месяц назад

    Are you familiar with Growling Sidewinder? You sound a little like him describing your game play. If you don't know him, might be good to reach out to him and fight him. He's a DCS gamer too and you might like fighting him if you haven't before.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад +1

      I don’t think it’s possible to not know who GS is if you’re into DCS. My channel is not really dogfight focused atm but sure maybe at some point in the future.

  • @lardwickx8642
    @lardwickx8642 Месяц назад

    you should contact ATE he's an ex french rafale pilots, he's very a skilled pilot even on a Mirage 2k

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад

      Yeah maybe I’ll do that some day 🙂

  • @MotobuChasi
    @MotobuChasi Месяц назад +1

    Bro what game is this?? My dad's a flying instructor. Got my PPL very young. I've got a lot, at least a 1000 hours on YSflight sim from the old days.
    I bet I'd hunt down a lot of guys with just a keyboard and mouse in a Rafael. I always kept thinking this was war thunder. What is this?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад

      It’s dcs world and you won’t be hunting anyone down unless you have a joystick and a throttle 😅😅

    • @MotobuChasi
      @MotobuChasi Месяц назад

      @@CommandT I got a betafpv lite 2 remote (for flying quads), would that work? it connects to the pc

  • @vewkathunder
    @vewkathunder Месяц назад +1

    what fighter your friend fly irl?

  • @kaivinsky
    @kaivinsky Месяц назад

    I had kind of the same experience in war thunder sim. 2 Real russian pilots against me automotive and my gardner friend. We won.

  • @intlon4299
    @intlon4299 2 месяца назад

    Love these videos!

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 месяца назад

      Glad to hear!

  • @pigmoonk2545
    @pigmoonk2545 Месяц назад

    When you dont need to do AGSM whilst fighting it is always easier

  • @omarjassar4650
    @omarjassar4650 2 месяца назад +1

    Would it help if Goose talked to you or would that have been kinda distracting ??

  • @Shirayumi9090
    @Shirayumi9090 23 дня назад

    4:10 At this point you might as well pull out the emergency pistol 😂

  • @isf4801
    @isf4801 7 дней назад

    Всё могло бы решиться на 2:24, если бы "стрелок" был более точен))
    Я думаю, столь малое время может нивелировать всё недостатки ощущений полета в симуляторе.

  • @lijinyan
    @lijinyan 2 месяца назад +3

    Be hardcore and try MiG-15 vs F-86 in next video :)

  • @WasserstoffheizungYT
    @WasserstoffheizungYT Месяц назад +1

    In dogfight Mig-29 still top notch ..with over g cobra this beast is an all aspect himself ;) ..but today is most bvr 8)..make a mig-29 as 6. gen fighter and you can go home ..haha

  • @tixeright9120
    @tixeright9120 8 дней назад

    "they'll never get that close in real life" maybe not in a shooting war, but have you seen how close they get to each other in cold-wars? I mean they are literally trying to take each other out with jet wash, and wingtip forces, and fuel dumps.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  6 дней назад +1

      My statement was with regards to BFM training in real life and the 1000ft bubble.

  • @davidca96
    @davidca96 Месяц назад +1

    MiG-29A is my favorite fighter ever produced.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад +1

      Understandable

  • @colonelradec5956
    @colonelradec5956 26 дней назад

    I think gamers have the edge in everything. Even like playing ace combat or gta is more piloting experience than a normal non gamer gets. So as unrealistic as them games are some experience even in concept is better than no experience.

  • @ndfgaming6824
    @ndfgaming6824 2 месяца назад +2

    4:15 my new wallpaper

  • @arkarcher8529
    @arkarcher8529 Месяц назад

    Fighter pilots are at a disadvantage than DCS pilots because some of the maneuvers that come natural in DCS would get your wings taken away or you'd bend the airframe which would also get your wings taken away

  • @whatmusiciwant
    @whatmusiciwant 19 часов назад

    He was toying with you the whole time lol.

  • @trippihoffman
    @trippihoffman 27 дней назад

    That was close! 🤌🏾

  • @TeuzTV86
    @TeuzTV86 Месяц назад

    Wich pc system require you would recommend to have this quality?

  • @mikhail1809
    @mikhail1809 18 дней назад

    This dogfight is better than that cheap copy of Top Gun

  • @misterpalmtrees
    @misterpalmtrees 8 дней назад

    im curious if, on his end, he was g-straining out of habit lol

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  6 дней назад +1

      Haha he wasn’t. He does plenty for f DCS stuff so I think he’s pretty used to it in the game sense 😅

    • @misterpalmtrees
      @misterpalmtrees 6 дней назад

      @@CommandT ahh that’s still so dope tho, it’s cool seeing different habits !

  • @jacobgrisson2695
    @jacobgrisson2695 13 дней назад

    It’d be a more accurate experiment if you did more than one match.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  13 дней назад

      We did plenty but I uploaded the most interesting one. People have short attention spans so I doubt everyone would want to watch all the other ones which are not as entertaining.

  • @mscz2324
    @mscz2324 Месяц назад

    I don't speak English very well. But today the fighting is tens of kilometers away, not so close. That's only in the movies. But if the point of the video was that the pilots don't have rockets, then fine.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад

      This will depend entirely on the conflict and the amount and quality of jets put up against each other. The F-22 and all new Russian jets have thrust vectoring for a reason. There is definitely a chance that in a big air war you could see jets merge for a dogfight. So definitely not a wasted skill.

  • @-Strit-
    @-Strit- Месяц назад

    Cool video. But I feel like the second you cashed in all your energy at the start, the viper should just rate fought you to the floor in a 1 circle, he had the energy and speed and he would have won that all day every day with little to nothing you could do about it.
    Why he decided to give up his advantage I don't understand.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад +1

      I don’t think the F-16 would win easily in a rate fight against a MiG-29. It would be very close and I think would depend who can max out their jet better in the last 5%

    • @-Strit-
      @-Strit- Месяц назад

      @@CommandT yeah I agree, but after the energy is gone, he would get behind really fast. You don't have the energy to go up, you don't have the energy to out rate at that point.
      If he had kept the advantage there he could keep it til it was over.

  • @Fox3-Luck
    @Fox3-Luck День назад

    Nice Video

  • @bucurflorentin8563
    @bucurflorentin8563 2 месяца назад

    hi! do you recommend trackir5 vs vr headset?? thank you

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 месяца назад

      This is a hard question to answer. I suggest just YouTubing and doing more research. Depending on your goals needs and your hardware

  • @grindcorejoe6661
    @grindcorejoe6661 19 дней назад

    DCS is still more a Game than a Life-or-Death-Szenario

  • @super266
    @super266 9 дней назад

    F16 got tired of dogfighting, wanted hand to hand combat.

  • @intrinia
    @intrinia Месяц назад

    Have you tried using thrust vectoring with the MiG-29?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад +1

      There is no thrust vectoring on a MiG-29.
      There was once a prototype MiG-29OVT which is not in DCS

    • @intrinia
      @intrinia Месяц назад

      @@CommandT sorry I meant differential thrust. Growling Sidewinder was using it to get a bit of an edge.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  18 дней назад

      Yes I totally disagree with him on this tactic. MiG-29 has extremely powerful rudders and what he did with differential thrust could be done with rudder without the loss of thrust as a compromise. I fully disagree with his technique. He’s a very competent DCS pilot but in this particular case I don’t agree with him 🙂

  • @plaiskool64
    @plaiskool64 2 месяца назад

    can i try?

  • @Nimori
    @Nimori 17 дней назад

    I think another point is made. Real pilots compensate for G force, and train to maneuver in such stresses.
    If you yourself went into real combat with this guy, you’d black out so easily and be unable to move your hand the way you wanted it to, or do any sort of button pressing, flip switching actions.
    You got the knowledge down, but not the dexterity or constitution.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  16 дней назад

      I would say this would be true for most airline pilots but not those who are seasoned aerobatic pilots. And yes the argument would be that obviously fighter jets can sustain high Gs for longer but a lot of good aerobatic pilots would be able to survive that, especially as they fly without any G-suits. So honestly I don’t know.

  • @calneigbauer7542
    @calneigbauer7542 Месяц назад +1

    Give the real pilot a few hours to get used to the sim he will smoke you every time

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад

      He grew up playing DCS/ Lock On, just like I did. I’m not sure he needs to “get used” to it 😅

  • @TheNorthsquad
    @TheNorthsquad 5 дней назад

    what is the actual fighter pilot using to play the game, and mouse and the keyboard? Look at the flight control systems you have set up including rudder pedals, give me a break.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  5 дней назад

      What? Give you a break in what? He has a TM warthog and pedals.

  • @dirkellis9212
    @dirkellis9212 Месяц назад +1

    So the f16 and mig 29 flight parameters in real life are so closely matched they could be maternal twins as a matter of fact the mig 29 was developed through corporate espionage the mig does have higher thrust to weight more similar to f15 but the f16 being lighter has higher sustained turn rate don't know how that Syria out in dcs but that's what I've read

    • @arutin8024
      @arutin8024 Месяц назад +1

      почему у западых людей, любая разработка которая оказывается так же хорошо как у вас является шпионажем?

    • @timurzarifov
      @timurzarifov Месяц назад

      ​@@arutin8024 ну не могут же унтерменши, а тем более азиаты (по последним новостям мы теперь - азиаты😁) сами что то придумать.💁‍♂️

  • @sherman4970
    @sherman4970 Месяц назад +2

    He is a REAL pilot, you play games. He was lucky??????

  • @eternity_warriors
    @eternity_warriors 13 дней назад

    Doesn't jet exhaust 5:15 do any strain damage?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  13 дней назад

      What do you mean by “strain” damage?

  • @kennethmoureau5123
    @kennethmoureau5123 Месяц назад

    4:20 holy smokes that's close!!

  • @DiabloOutdoors
    @DiabloOutdoors Месяц назад

    F16 with... TWO engines?

  • @angelosophy
    @angelosophy Месяц назад +1

    Am i rooting for you? Yes. Am i happy that you lost to a real NATO pilot? Also yes.

  • @rpenri
    @rpenri 10 дней назад

    Is this a true assessment? There are things that are classified that will change tactics in a real engagement. Weapons engagement zones are classified which changes how a true pilot would approach a situation. If everything is within published or public information I assume this would negate any real world tactics. Edit: nvm it’s guns only.

  • @0101-t4r
    @0101-t4r 12 дней назад

    Ofc you will win, same like CS2 pro player will beat in CS2 some Delta Force soldier, but try same in real life bro.

  • @Spartan117FS
    @Spartan117FS 8 дней назад

    I would say in real life combat, the DCS player would most likely pass out from the first maneuver due to too high G-force.
    Video gamers are rarely fit, even the elite esports gamers that take physical conditioning seriously, would most likely have very poor specific fitness to actually fly a figher jet efficiently compared to a live action fighter pilot.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  6 дней назад

      Well I think this fairly obvious. An interesting comparison would be a DCS player that’s also a real-world aerobatic competition pilot at a high level, who won’t have an issue with high Gs if put inside a real fighter jet.

  • @Learnerofthings
    @Learnerofthings Месяц назад

    I’m sure this has been asked but because all of these maneuvers are recorded and sent back to the company isn’t there a security issue? And isn’t this a Russian game? Please forgive my ignorance I was just curious and thought that might be a problem.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад

      There’s nothing secret about BFM. It’s all open source so no. It’s not a security risk and any military pilot is free to play the game in their free time if they so wish

  • @youcanhandlethetruth4695
    @youcanhandlethetruth4695 2 месяца назад

    Why do fighters not have something like Extra Big Shotgun Ammo? That normal String of Bullets is to hard to Hit. And why is there not some kind of Auto Rotating Toured on the top and Bottom Build in? All these Manoeuvres would become Useless.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  Месяц назад

      I’m guessing shotguns have limited range and a very limited ability to inflict damage on hard targets, especially from afar. These aren’t ducks or clay pigeons

    • @youcanhandlethetruth4695
      @youcanhandlethetruth4695 Месяц назад

      @@CommandT I am not talking about the Round, small Shotgun Ammo. But the same type A10... 30mm Rounds. Just in a Shotgun like Big Shell. Instead of shooting 1000s of rounds a Minute ( in this Pee Bullet string). Make it a view big Blasts. Like Pigeon Hunting. But 24x 30mm Explosive anti Air Rounds come out at the same Time.
      I think it would be more effective, than this Piss Stream of Bullets.

  • @halnineooo136
    @halnineooo136 Месяц назад

    NATO pilot be like I'm gonna do everything forbidden in the fighter pilot manual

  • @ibrahimyusuf-st-mba
    @ibrahimyusuf-st-mba Месяц назад

    Why there is no backward missile?

  • @stefanfranke6277
    @stefanfranke6277 8 дней назад

    which controls are you using?

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  6 дней назад

      Have a look in the description of the video. It’s all there

  • @VIDIAX91
    @VIDIAX91 9 часов назад

    Where can I buy the simulators I use?

  • @_0minutes
    @_0minutes 2 месяца назад +1

    god i love ur videos, just like the mig29

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  2 месяца назад +1

      Great to hear! 👌

  • @elfri1738
    @elfri1738 7 дней назад

    It's not true that pilots wont fight that close. If they have to they will, it means you put up a good fight.

    • @CommandT
      @CommandT  6 дней назад

      I obviously meant in training. They have a 1000ft bubble.