10:54 major reason was the fact that this plane never intended to be massively produced, it's basically an experimental planer made only with one purpose - test forward swept wings, eventually it turned into sacrificial flying laboratory for testing engines, weapon bays, radars, materials, etc, it basically tested a lot of stuff which got it's place in SU-37 and SU-57
Why doesn’t the US have the AIM 260 or the new hypersonic missile? We are doing hypotheticals, but never in favor of the US. Russia always has the advantage.
"I think we may be alright" I was expecting it as soon as you said the words but pleasantly it didn't happen for once. Would love to see this thing dog fight an F-16.
The Berkut is such a beautiful plane as well as the engineering behind her to make her combat worthy! Great Piloting as always GS and Thank you for doing an episode on this Gorgeous Berkut 😃
The American forward swept wing version used three computers to keep it level that's what I heard years ago, and I believe that's why forward swept fighters didn't become a big thing. Berkut vs the American forward swept wing version, also I LOVE when you end a successful video showing the internal weapons bay.
By the time this was in development computers keeping the plane stable was pretty common. The US X29 was flown 10 years before this and that concept wasn't widely excepted yet. Russia stopped development of the Berkut because they never solved the material issues of the stresses being generated by the forward swept wings. That and Russia was pretty much broke.
I'd imagine it has to do with forward swept wings possibly generating huge radar returns not to mention stealth aircraft are being a proven and successful concept by that time forward swept wings were deemed unnecessary especially with bvr technology maturing.
Awesome video, loved the tracking you did for where the missiles fired at you ended up. It really does a lot when you have this kind of BVR fight, there's a lot of maneuvering, but it's hard to tell how it all plays out sometimes since there's a lot of "I think I defeated it."
Nice video as always. You never fail to amaze. It was pretty nice to see you flying the Berkut. I would love to see a dogfight in the Berkut since it's forward swept wings was supposed to give it better trans sonic performance. I think the Viper or the Hornet will be a formidable opponent for the Berkut.
I think you’ve got an entire series you can produce with the Su-47 vs everything it could have faced in combat, both BVR and dogfights. Maybe combine a BVR with a best of 3 dogfights into each opponent’s video. We love long videos. Take on all US fighters, F-35, F-22, F-18 (super and legacy), F-16, F-15 EX and C, F-14. Even A-10 guns only would be fun. Then take on European challengers, Eurofighter, Gripen, Mirage. Then face off against all Chinese and North Korean fighters. The Israeli Air Force variants could be possible foes, also. Then even match it against all Russian fighters, including Su-57. The Su-47 is such an interesting design, it would be great to see its potential had it ever gone into production.
If my memory doesnt betray me, me said that he wouldnt use the F35 until a good module of the aircraft gets released. The he might do all sort of things n tests with it. Hopefully someone works on such a good module so we can see him testing it
Jeez I am sh!ting myself when you say "I think I'm alright here" 🤣 I would like to see the Berkut put through its paces in a gunfight against some big dogs, like the F-22
What an amazing BVR duel that was. Great flying by Golf and you GS! Regarding the stealthiness of the SU-47, it is supposed to be LO and not semi-stealth like the SU-57 or fully stealth like the F-35. As for dogfighting with this beast of aircraft: Pit it against the YF-23, both have no TVC but have amazing maneuverability nontheless.
Dogfight idea: rather than a head-on merge, try a side-by-side, same altitude, heading & airspeed fight start. The only restriction is that the flyers must first turn 30° away from each other at the start.
It was meant to be a Soviet stealth fighter later on in its development. When the U.S.S.R fell all that fell through and the prototype was left in its non-stealthy state. There are images online of the ideas thwy had for a more complete design and you can see the stealth shaping and a few other changes.
In a dual-purpose world I suppose there would be some value in FSW as a light attack aircraft where something else existed like the MiG i.42 for the air superiority role, but the demand shifted to Multirole around the same time. Su-47 is still an oddball with a wing suited to light fighting but on a beast with MiG-31 engines.
the reason the su-47 never made production is that it had 1 major design flaw, with the forward swept wings it was causing singificant wing twist which could sheer most wings off the aircraft.
First I'd see how it performs against its brethren in the form of the most up to date flanker or something. But in the long run we gotta get SU-47 vs EF Typhoon, F-22, F16, Rafale, A10, Mirage guns only fights. The most popular ones you could do some HOBS dogfights as well.
dogfight vs all the planes!! and another duel of slow speed Supermaneuverability vs a su27 to see evolution (like the Supermaneuverability su27 vs su27 video) awesome job!
Two comments: I’d love to see a dogfight between a YF-23 & the Su-47. I’d like to see or at least hear you report what happens to the Su-47 when put into high speed turns on the simulator. I’m not sure if the program will allow it. But figured I’d ask as the Su-47 is such a unique aircraft. TY
Well we GOTTA do Su47 vs F22 and F16. Su57, Typhoon, and Gripen, and maybe try Spitfire as well to shake things up? HOBS Fox 2 when capable and Guns Only both would be awesome
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F-18 Hornet vs SU-47 Berkut Dogfight.
Su-57 vs Su-47 in BVR. or a dogfight which is more competitive.
@lilsmoot4488 IKR!!! The Grinelli F-22 vs. SU-47!
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx
SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx
The proper terminology is LOW OBSERVABILITY or REDUCED OBSERVABILITY.
Berkut means Golden Eagle. Eagle vs Eagle.
Golden eagle vs eagle obviously
Golden Eagle beats regular Eagle. Seems legit.
Golden eagle vs freedom eagle
@@leliboo2445 Censorship eagle vs Censorship eagle.
@@warhombre97
😂 good one
10:54 major reason was the fact that this plane never intended to be massively produced, it's basically an experimental planer made only with one purpose - test forward swept wings, eventually it turned into sacrificial flying laboratory for testing engines, weapon bays, radars, materials, etc, it basically tested a lot of stuff which got it's place in SU-37 and SU-57
i love the su-47, it’s such an interesting aircraft. it might be interesting to dogfight it against an f-22 or an eagle
or the x 29?
This thing vs F-16!
Yes!
I feel like this should be a good rate fighter and the F-16 is the way to find out.
Dogfighter vs Dogfighter.
I second this as well
A great dogfight would be Su-47 Beirkut vs F-15 STOL/MTD. A dogfight between two highly maneuverable prototype aircraft.
I second this.
I second that.
Would be cool!
@@Cuccos19 I 2^3 that.
HEs had a few fights with the STOL. I think the most maneuverable aggressor he fought was the F22
As much as I love American muscle, those R-77Ms definitely know how to reach out and kill someone.
Why doesn’t the US have the AIM 260 or the new hypersonic missile? We are doing hypotheticals, but never in favor of the US. Russia always has the advantage.
@@donaldkeller881 Not really? They are same class missiles. If you really wanted to give Russia advantage that Berkut would be rocking R-37Ms
"This is it, the moment Ive been waiting for" - Me clicking on this video faster than i can think about it
SU-47 vs. SU-57
Yes that's a good idea😊
or SU-47 vs. F-22
@@UnknownAce-111 I think he’s done that.
@@johngalt3568 has he if so i probably haven’t seen it yet
@@johngalt3568 i just checked now he has not yet
Berkut is a like a Klingon word, and the SU-47 even looks a little like a bird of prey.
Look up the Klingon knife "d'k tahg" it's the same shape as the Su-47
@@badbonzai1 Fun fact: I seem to recall that someone translated the Bible into Klingon for their Ph.D.
Not the most practical design but certainly one of the coolest looking planes of all time.
@@hanrockabrand95 OH SHIT IT IS!!! GOOD EYE
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Do a bandit unknown in the SU-47.
Yes please
YESS
YES!
Would be cool too!
It's bErkut )
Su-47 was a proof of concept for carrier mission. Flight prototype never had radar installed.
14:26 That AMRAAM isn't chasing you, he dancin'.
What a great fight!! Next should be Su-47 vs YF-23. Both experimental aircraft.
absolutely.
Yf23 would monster it.
"I think we may be alright" I was expecting it as soon as you said the words but pleasantly it didn't happen for once.
Would love to see this thing dog fight an F-16.
The Berkut is such a beautiful plane as well as the engineering behind her to make her combat worthy! Great Piloting as always GS and Thank you for doing an episode on this Gorgeous Berkut 😃
P-38 Lightning vs F-35 Lightning II
English Electric Lightning F mk3 vs F-35 Lightning II
Su-47 looks like a bird that Darth Vader would fly on his days off.
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
Day 8
F-35C would get smoked in it's current state.
Three way dog fight between Raptor, Berkut, and Eurofighter or eagle, would be awesome to watch.
What a treat seeing GS flying thr Su47 Berkut. It's such a beautiful fighter.
A F-16 vs. Su-47 HOBS or gun fight would be interesting to see.
What a gorgeous aircraft.
How about Su-47 vs Bandit Unknown from any era?
I've watched you for at least 3 1/2 years if not more
I don't know what it is.
It calms me completely.
Thank you !
I think you should do the su-57 felon vs the su-47 berkut
The fight he put up, you need to give him a code for 10% off another f-15. Good stuff!
wait - if they get shot down, is that plane gone? I've been confused about this...
@@jbc242424 no it isn't gone. You can restart with it.
Su-47 vs Su-57 in a dogfight.. Berkut gets revenge for not making into production line....
The American forward swept wing version used three computers to keep it level that's what I heard years ago, and I believe that's why forward swept fighters didn't become a big thing. Berkut vs the American forward swept wing version, also I LOVE when you end a successful video showing the internal weapons bay.
The American counterpart doesn't exist in DCS.
By the time this was in development computers keeping the plane stable was pretty common. The US X29 was flown 10 years before this and that concept wasn't widely excepted yet. Russia stopped development of the Berkut because they never solved the material issues of the stresses being generated by the forward swept wings. That and Russia was pretty much broke.
I'd imagine it has to do with forward swept wings possibly generating huge radar returns not to mention stealth aircraft are being a proven and successful concept by that time forward swept wings were deemed unnecessary especially with bvr technology maturing.
Awesome video, loved the tracking you did for where the missiles fired at you ended up. It really does a lot when you have this kind of BVR fight, there's a lot of maneuvering, but it's hard to tell how it all plays out sometimes since there's a lot of "I think I defeated it."
Love the battlefield music! Such a nice touch
Nice video as always. You never fail to amaze. It was pretty nice to see you flying the Berkut. I would love to see a dogfight in the Berkut since it's forward swept wings was supposed to give it better trans sonic performance. I think the Viper or the Hornet will be a formidable opponent for the Berkut.
I think you’ve got an entire series you can produce with the Su-47 vs everything it could have faced in combat, both BVR and dogfights. Maybe combine a BVR with a best of 3 dogfights into each opponent’s video. We love long videos. Take on all US fighters, F-35, F-22, F-18 (super and legacy), F-16, F-15 EX and C, F-14. Even A-10 guns only would be fun. Then take on European challengers, Eurofighter, Gripen, Mirage. Then face off against all Chinese and North Korean fighters. The Israeli Air Force variants could be possible foes, also. Then even match it against all Russian fighters, including Su-57.
The Su-47 is such an interesting design, it would be great to see its potential had it ever gone into production.
Your dogfight videos are an absolute master class! How about teaching us how to handle 2v1, 2v2, etc?
Day 31 of asking F35 vs. F15E BVR match.
That'll be a good one
Especially an EX
That would be good. At night too!
Stfu
If my memory doesnt betray me, me said that he wouldnt use the F35 until a good module of the aircraft gets released. The he might do all sort of things n tests with it.
Hopefully someone works on such a good module so we can see him testing it
Jeez I am sh!ting myself when you say "I think I'm alright here" 🤣
I would like to see the Berkut put through its paces in a gunfight against some big dogs, like the F-22
Put the Su47 against anything in a dogfight, I am going to watch the video. Love that thing. vs viper, hornet, raptor, anything dude. Great videos
Yes, I would really like to see a dog fight between the SU-57 and the F-15.
6:16 maybe Berkut vs Raptor guns/HOBS?
Tukreb vs Rotpar. hell yeah
YF-23 VS SU-47. Concept plane vs concept plane. BVR and Merge fight will be interesting.
What an amazing BVR duel that was. Great flying by Golf and you GS!
Regarding the stealthiness of the SU-47, it is supposed to be LO and not semi-stealth like the SU-57 or fully stealth like the F-35.
As for dogfighting with this beast of aircraft: Pit it against the YF-23, both have no TVC but have amazing maneuverability nontheless.
Dogfight idea: rather than a head-on merge, try a side-by-side, same altitude, heading & airspeed fight start. The only restriction is that the flyers must first turn 30° away from each other at the start.
Shooting at clouds.
So intense.
Modern air combat is like watching some guy do math at NASA.
It would be cool to see the Su47 against like 2 F86s or 2 Mig15s in a guns only dogfight. Awesome video here :)!
Berkut vs Hornet guns and hobs. Nose authority vs maneuverability.
F-15 Active vs Su-47. That would be a nice Dogfight.
It was meant to be a Soviet stealth fighter later on in its development. When the U.S.S.R fell all that fell through and the prototype was left in its non-stealthy state. There are images online of the ideas thwy had for a more complete design and you can see the stealth shaping and a few other changes.
14:30 that amraam was trying to flap its control surfaces to reach you lol
In a dual-purpose world I suppose there would be some value in FSW as a light attack aircraft where something else existed like the MiG i.42 for the air superiority role, but the demand shifted to Multirole around the same time. Su-47 is still an oddball with a wing suited to light fighting but on a beast with MiG-31 engines.
Day 127 F-4 Phantom vs Bandit unknown 4 Long rounds.
Berkut VS. Eurofighter in DF
the reason the su-47 never made production is that it had 1 major design flaw, with the forward swept wings it was causing singificant wing twist which could sheer most wings off the aircraft.
the Berkut sure is one great lookin fighter . . .
the Su-47 Berkut....one super sexy plane....
now fit that one with UASF avionics.....(wipes drool)
Good fight! I think you guys were just play stand off together and no one was really in Range at first!! Great flying!!!
A duel between the Su-47 and a good western dogfighter would be fun.
The Su47 against the Raptor or Felon would be interesting. You could also do fights against the F16, F18, F35, Su 35, su37/27
You know, it would be interesting seeing GS fighting in a heavy commercial airline space.
he's done it before.
Dogfight of SU-47 vs SU-57 would be interesting I think. Especially with you in one of those. In GrowlingSidewinder I trust
Su-47 vs. YF-23 would be an all time dogfight. The two planes that should have been adopted squaring off 1v1. That would be epic!
The su47 design ended in the s22 stealth figther.
Superb BVR fight. Very tactical. Brilliant.
SU-47 vs the F-15 STOL/MTD would be super interesting since both were tech demonstrators
The Firkin/Berkut also has S-ducted engines, which is stealthier than what the Su-57 ended up with.
Seems like a good 1-circle fighter in the merge. Would love to see that with the crazy wing configuration! Force the merge?
I bet it slaps in the 1 Circle, Will have to test though.
Dogfight ideas:
F16 vs berkut
F18 vs berkut
F22 vs berkut
F35 vs berkut
Finally GS flying something different... 😮
SU-47 vs F-16 in a dog fight !!!
I think it would be quite interesting to see the Su-47 vs. something like a Su-57 or an F22
First I'd see how it performs against its brethren in the form of the most up to date flanker or something. But in the long run we gotta get SU-47 vs EF Typhoon, F-22, F16, Rafale, A10, Mirage guns only fights. The most popular ones you could do some HOBS dogfights as well.
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Hey GS. Great Channel! This is as close as I'll get to DCS. How about a dog fight between the SU-47 and the F15 STOL? Battle of the demonstrates.
Gotta admit...that is a good looking aircraft!
The Berkut just looks like a spaceship, therefore I like it. :D
WWWWWOOOOOOWWWWWW! You flew one of the non-hi-fidelity planes. I’m here for it. I knew it would happen eventually. Now go ham on all of them, please.
Su 47 against all the modern 5th gen fighters guns only.
Berkut need to fight each of the ATF jets. Imagine the biggest, baddest projects of the 90s duking it out!
That last AMRAMM was really trying hard to figure out where it is by where it isn't.
Obviously this needs to go up against the other weird wing: F15 Active vs SU-47 Berkut
That was brilliant! Thanks :)
dogfight vs all the planes!! and another duel of slow speed Supermaneuverability vs a su27 to see evolution (like the Supermaneuverability
su27 vs su27 video)
awesome job!
Thank you for taking my mind off the rest of the world, sir!
Su-47 missions! I'm a big fan of that thing
Give me A-10 vs Me 262, the only true test of skill
That last AMRAAM was having a real boogie before hitting the deck.
Would possibly be interesting seeing a dogfight between the Felon and the Berkut...
Two comments:
I’d love to see a dogfight between a YF-23 & the Su-47.
I’d like to see or at least hear you report what happens to the Su-47 when put into high speed turns on the simulator.
I’m not sure if the program will allow it. But figured I’d ask as the Su-47 is such a unique aircraft. TY
Dude, that ending, WTF, nobody does cinematic like you. What a logical dogflight
I'd like to see you do the Su-47 in stages for dogfighting: start out with fighters not so good at it until you get to the F-16, the F-22 etc.
Woooooo GS playing the last Soviet Superplane!
I’d love to see guns on only dogfighting with this against a fulcrum, a raptor, an F35. Maybe throw an F-16 as well.
How about Su--47 vs F-18? Great video as usual!
love the BVR and Mission objectives
Well we GOTTA do Su47 vs F22 and F16. Su57, Typhoon, and Gripen, and maybe try Spitfire as well to shake things up? HOBS Fox 2 when capable and Guns Only both would be awesome
I think this vs the f18 would be a very close dogfight. But would love to push it to the edge and see it against a f22
I have been looking forward to this! :D
I’m very surprised that AMRAAM didn’t kill GS instantly after he said “we might be alright”
That plane reminds me of the X-15 forward swept wing concept.
Such an intriguing design.
Have you ever considered doing 2 vs 2 dogfights with similar (2 F-16s vs 2 Mig 29s) or dissimilar (F-15E/F-16 vs SU 27/ Mig 29) aircraft?