Superstitious Side of Cus D’Amato & Boxing

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  • Опубликовано: 4 дек 2019
  • Teddy Atlas opens up and shares Cus D'Amato stories with Patrick Bet-David. See Teddy's Newly Launched Audiobook ATLAS: From The Streets To The Ring - adbl.co/2DN40yd
    About: Constantine "Cus" D'Amato was an American boxing manager and trainer who handled the careers of Mike Tyson, Floyd Patterson, and José Torres; all went on to become members of the International Boxing Hall of Fame.
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Комментарии • 510

  • @MultiWeen
    @MultiWeen 2 года назад +73

    Teddy is one of the greats but mentally and probably emotionally has a certain disdain for Cus and Tyson individually, but especially their relationship. Teddy has his reasons including how much he has sacrificed for his trade yet to always be overshadowed in a way by the Lore of Cus D'amato the greatest boxing coach that ever lived.

    • @JockTalk7
      @JockTalk7 2 года назад +2

      good analysis.

    • @bestavatar8986
      @bestavatar8986 2 года назад

      Or he's sees Tyson as a rapist, pedophile and a weak quiter.

    • @Priceluked
      @Priceluked 2 года назад +1

      Well that's because Mike and Cus' relationship was so toxic. Cus basically just used Mike for his own self glorification and because of Mike's success he succeeded.

    • @Beer-can_full_of_toes
      @Beer-can_full_of_toes Год назад +7

      Also Mike did some shit to a female relative of Teddy’s. I understand his reasons.

    • @Ditka-89
      @Ditka-89 Год назад

      Mike Tyson groped/sexually propositioned Teddy Atlas’s 11 year old niece. And atlas got fired by his own mentor/father figure for punishing Mike. Most people would be bitter

  • @user-gy5xl6mq2j
    @user-gy5xl6mq2j 4 года назад +199

    He let Tyson back in because Tyson was not your ordinary prospect.....

    • @martinamicflyy2618
      @martinamicflyy2618 4 года назад

      #47
      Wow!!...............
      ruclips.net/video/sluNuVp2_TE/видео.html

    • @akh5131
      @akh5131 4 года назад +7

      #47 fr how the fuck is he gonna make him stay out of the gym when he’s striving to be the heavy weight champ of the world

    • @CJ-ch9sh
      @CJ-ch9sh 4 года назад +1

      But what would have been better for him

    • @sheruffa6032
      @sheruffa6032 3 года назад +8

      @@akh5131 however you can't show these differences in the presence of the other guys, do you understand the problem? You have to strive to make everyone feel equal!

    • @hgee272
      @hgee272 3 года назад +8

      CusDa’Mato understood that he had a real life Monster 👹
      He didn’t want to tame him, he wanted to control him so he could sic him on other fighters. He wanted mike to keep his animalistic behaviors and instincts. That’s what made Mike so vicious and scary!
      Teddy is speaking from a place of jealousy. He envied Tyson and Cus relationship. Before Mike, Teddy was the adopted son after Mike Teddy became the black sheep!

  • @Mike37551
    @Mike37551 Год назад +18

    Superstitions are rituals that you can use to center yourself and marshal your power. They can help bring everything within you into alignment. They represent the power of faith.
    Also regarding Cus letting things slide with Mike: I think part of what made Mike so intimidating to his opponents was his complete resistance to being civilized. It’s hard to occupy the mindset of pure bad intentions if you’re constantly worrying about how your actions affect other people. If you want to be a powerful monster, that little voice in the back of your head…it needs to go. You can’t be a juggernaut if you allow yourself to get dragged into that frame. Winning has to be the only thing.
    If you really want to understand what Cus did for Mike, Friedrich Nietzsche has something to say on the matter. Mike is such a tortured soul because of what society is, NOT because of what he is.

    • @John-bv1lx
      @John-bv1lx Год назад +2

      Wow, very profound analysis. I agree that cus had to tame a wild and savage soul which needs lots of forgiveness and patience which in my eyes is a virtue rather than being "tough" and never letting anything go. There is strength in understanding

    • @GurpreetSingh-ow5vy
      @GurpreetSingh-ow5vy 5 месяцев назад +1

      Great analysis you did here. I have observed this pattern of parenting also.

  • @SugarRayCharles.
    @SugarRayCharles. 4 года назад +44

    Basically, Teddy wanted Tyson to show some accountability, but Cus suspended that approach.

    • @realitynotfictionii563
      @realitynotfictionii563 3 года назад +3

      Well said, compared to a lot of the comments. Of course we don't know everything but I agree.

    • @SiberianJew
      @SiberianJew Год назад +5

      Because the accountability would have killed the absolute killer in Tyson. Cus needed him that way. Untamed, angry and in pain. I'm glad Tyson learned to sail the storm eventually.

    • @SugarRayCharles.
      @SugarRayCharles. Год назад

      Same.

  • @glockspecific7757
    @glockspecific7757 4 года назад +157

    I don't like the way he talks about Mike personally, he holds a lot of that stuff personally still....

    • @flahertyrick88
      @flahertyrick88 4 года назад +1

      @SWP 215 he was 16 try again

    • @flahertyrick88
      @flahertyrick88 4 года назад +11

      @SWP 215 once again let someone diddle ya niece you would just forgive him your a disgrace

    • @lanceuppercut7477
      @lanceuppercut7477 4 года назад +3

      SWP 215 don’t mind this loser he’s dropping the same reply on other comments too. It’s probably teddy the fucking lying loser himself.

    • @Tru4Life
      @Tru4Life 4 года назад +5

      @@flahertyrick88 There is always two sides to a story. Atlas was mad cause Cus and Mike did not want him anymore.

    • @lanceuppercut7477
      @lanceuppercut7477 4 года назад +1

      flahertyrick9188 Hahahaha internet tough guy!! What have you done with your life? Eh expect go around putting people down to make yourself feel better about your shitty life. You’re a hateful man and that’s obvious to anyone reading your comments. I see you still haven’t given me that link to where Tyson’s admits to diddling kids, he admits to slapping her arse at the age of thirteen, you call that diddling?? You’re just a hater man plain and simple. Like I told you already karma will get you back for spreading hate and lies about people you don’t know. Also what the fuck were you trying to say in that last comment. Get a friend to proof read for you in future. Oh wait sorry. That’s why you’re on here spreading hate. No friends?? 🤷‍♂️ I understand why, you aren’t a nice person. Go on use the only line you have, tell me again I diddle kids. Fucking loser 😆😆🖕

  • @venicec3310
    @venicec3310 2 года назад +5

    Teddy always speaks down on tyson and cus every chance he gets you can tell he still has alot of resentment for cus choosing tyson over him

  • @DarronBrown88
    @DarronBrown88 4 года назад +189

    Teddy has been hating on Tyson since he was 14 🤦🏽‍♂️. Let it go.

    • @razoredge6476
      @razoredge6476 4 года назад +28

      Teddy is a sneaky two faced individual. He made millions off of Tyson and when he couldn't make any more money off of him , he goes around and tries to ruin Tyson's name to everybody

    • @thirstyjimmy
      @thirstyjimmy 4 года назад +13

      flahertyrick9188 That’s laughable. Tyson was only a 13 or 14 year old kid himself.

    • @Tusc9969
      @Tusc9969 4 года назад +8

      Let what go??? Teddy was asked a question and Teddy responded. Don't act as if Teddy called this man just to talk about Tyson.
      Last I heard, Tyson APOLOGISED to Teddy and they both made their amends.

    • @Tusc9969
      @Tusc9969 4 года назад +14

      @@thirstyjimmy He was 13 or 14 SO WHAT?? You're saying bad behavior should be ignored just because someone's a minor??? LOL
      Minors especially should be disciplined and TAUGHT not to do those things, for their own good and most importantly, because it's WRONG.

    • @warking3523
      @warking3523 4 года назад +1

      @@Tusc9969 shut yo ass up

  • @SongvilayFilms
    @SongvilayFilms 4 года назад +4

    Love it please release the full interview!

  • @firmevato8679
    @firmevato8679 4 года назад +42

    Teddy Atlas was jealous of the relationship that Cus D’Amato’s and Mike Tyson had... I hear it in every interview Teddy gives !

  • @sutho73
    @sutho73 4 года назад +5

    Really enjoying your channel Patrick, some amazing interviews and great information...you really ask the questions we want to hear...👍👓

  • @Enzo87325
    @Enzo87325 3 года назад +19

    I’m a cancer wahooo I was getting worried there for a minute lol

  • @value-media
    @value-media 3 года назад

    Beautigull knowledge! Thank you very much!

  • @samurironin
    @samurironin 4 года назад +58

    Just to get it straight. It was Cancer , Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo that cus trained. Make no mistake !

    • @aresjerry
      @aresjerry 3 года назад +7

      Water signs are moody so it makes sense

    • @aresjerry
      @aresjerry 3 года назад +11

      They get into depressive states, then manic. Self harming or high risk taking behavior in the lows.

    • @ABCDEFGHI827
      @ABCDEFGHI827 3 года назад +4

      He never said Virgo. Who was a Virgo that Cus trained?

    • @youngpedro2165
      @youngpedro2165 3 года назад +1

      @@ABCDEFGHI827 me, after his death.

    • @winterwarden
      @winterwarden 3 года назад

      @@f0rtyEight overly generalized do your own research if u care

  • @asianassassin5082
    @asianassassin5082 4 года назад +62

    Hopefully this guys not salty about Tyson the whole interview.

    • @DarronBrown88
      @DarronBrown88 4 года назад +1

      AsianAssassin 50 Amén

    • @lanceuppercut7477
      @lanceuppercut7477 4 года назад +9

      AsianAssassin 50 why wouldn’t he be. He has been his whole life. Ffs he needs to get over it. Cus loved Tyson that’s what the problem seems to be.

    • @asianassassin5082
      @asianassassin5082 4 года назад

      @@lanceuppercut7477 exactly

    • @friday5561
      @friday5561 4 года назад +5

      He never seems to talk about how great of a fighter Tyson was

    • @flahertyrick88
      @flahertyrick88 4 года назад +1

      @@lanceuppercut7477 why did Tyson apologize for it keep defending child molesters

  • @blakeada999
    @blakeada999 4 года назад +26

    Patrick is REALLY becoming a special interviewer. The rapport and trust he builds with the people he interviews brings one-of-a-kind conversations to the world. Thanks, Patrick. So many good things are coming out of this series.

    • @dudeyes7261
      @dudeyes7261 4 года назад

      No he doesn't.

    • @timothyweaver1748
      @timothyweaver1748 4 года назад

      He's average at BEST.. He should allow other people do the interviews. Patrick isn't informed enough going into the interview.

    • @blakeada999
      @blakeada999 4 года назад +3

      ​@@timothyweaver1748​That's an interesting opinion. Mine was based off of what other people share with him, rather than what Patrick says. Where do you think his being uninformed affects the quality of the information he gets people to share?

    • @timothyweaver1748
      @timothyweaver1748 4 года назад

      @@blakeada999 he would be able to get deeper into a person's background if he took the time to research them beforehand. If you'll notice the questions he asks his guests are very similar across the board. People want to hear things that are intriguing in ways that other interviewers haven't already asked. Also the topics in which they discuss is often very generic. The interview with Stephen A Smith for example was very bland. Nothing that we didn't already know nor any discussion about current events.

    • @blakeada999
      @blakeada999 4 года назад +2

      @@timothyweaver1748 Thanks for sharing, I'll look deeper into it. I realize that the people I see him interview are people I've never seen interviewed before. So, it's not a fair conclusion on my part because there's no "control".

  • @sharonalvarezdonaire4573
    @sharonalvarezdonaire4573 4 года назад +7

    I love that you did this interview

  • @terencetrentwatford.632
    @terencetrentwatford.632 4 года назад +66

    Terry Atlas gets his weed off Tyson now .

  • @brandonking8201
    @brandonking8201 3 года назад +18

    Cancers are very emotional I feel Mike had allot of emotion inside of him from the things he was exposed to and emotion is power if directed. Cardinal water.

    • @tommygalandria267
      @tommygalandria267 2 года назад +3

      Camcers are overall good fighters, look at Jon Jones (cancer), Mike Tyson (camcer)

    • @evan3352
      @evan3352 Год назад

      I agree. I think that's what made Tyson so great (his skillset, coaching, and zodiac sign.) That's how Cus knew he would be special.

    • @ogbobby819
      @ogbobby819 Год назад

      Cancers are caring sensitive and dedicated there amazing if they channel there emotions correctly

    • @francoperrotta4968
      @francoperrotta4968 Год назад +2

      @@tommygalandria267 Conor mcgregor ,Julio Cesaer Chavez , Canelo …

  • @nickperillo_
    @nickperillo_ 4 года назад +5

    Great content no better channel brings this kind of value and entertainment 👌

  • @VlPULTRA
    @VlPULTRA 3 года назад +7

    He is not hating he just know things real private things you guys could never know about Mike.

  • @strangelovemd1
    @strangelovemd1 3 года назад +54

    Holy shit. The occult was real with this man. He also was a hypnotist. On Joe Rogan, Tyson described being in a “sunken place”. Once there, in that darkness, this is when Cus programmed him to be the best. Tyson went through self-destructive behavior because Cus never taught him how to turn it off. (I’m here for different research)

    • @yknows3158
      @yknows3158 3 года назад +14

      Thats why i am here keyword... “handler”

    • @bobbywilliams9420
      @bobbywilliams9420 2 года назад +8

      Yeah, there’s always some secret darker shit connected with the mind and cults and shit when there is someone this successful. I want to find out what that secret is and is it bad. Did mike Tyson sell his soul, did cus sell his too?

    • @littlescott6162
      @littlescott6162 2 года назад +8

      Agree. Teddy is only looking back and saying that Cus “let a few things go” and that looking back on it gets why he did but that it sucked to be the number 2 of a gym (cus being #1) it’s hard to discipline a fighter, using rules Cus himself put in place, and then cus comes in the gym and let mike off. People want to act like Teddy bad mouth Tyson and Cus but he’s giving his honest assessment of the that situation now

    • @douglaspinsak1246
      @douglaspinsak1246 2 года назад +1

      @@bobbywilliams9420
      The occult is always bad, it's just a form of witchcraft. Black magic, white magic...it's all magic and the practitioners of the aforementioned are witches/sorcerers. Based on the little tidbits I have seen here and there (Cus paid attention to astrology, Mike Tyson said that his encounter with Cus wasn't by chance but that Cus "summoned him", Mike also said that Cus had a number of mystical books in his collection) it would seem to be the case that Cus was involved in the occult to some degree at least. Honestly he LOOKS like he is into the occult; that is how I found this stuff out--I was looking at him and thinking "this guy has a sort of occultist/sorcerer look to him, I wonder if he was known to be into the occult". So I typed "Cus D'Amato occult" into RUclips and starting coming across some confirmation. I am not saying that either him or Tyson flat out sold their souls, but I do think Cus was into some "dark arts" type of stuff.

    • @Mario-zt4lq
      @Mario-zt4lq 2 года назад

      @PKD Orion exactly this. Well said and it speaks to Cus' intelligence/genius. He understood the power of the mind/self belief very well. A sign of intelligence is pattern recognition and you can see a lot of Cus on other greats after him, i.e, Jimmy Johnson of the Dallas Cowboys in the early 1990's

  • @dwax74
    @dwax74 4 года назад +121

    He apologized Teddy and he was a kid. Let it go Teddy.

    • @ihavetubes
      @ihavetubes 4 года назад +20

      easy to say when it didn't happen to you.

    • @markhiggins8315
      @markhiggins8315 4 года назад +16

      Teddy is absolutely right. If Cus was younger and healthier he'd have been able to deal with it better. Teddy is still respectful and understanding of Cus's predicament yet he's being honest and fair. No one is perfect and Mike's later behavior proves Teddy's point. Boxing is important but life is more so. Cus's understandable weaknesses in handling Tyson are obvious for all to see. Again had Cus been younger things would have been different and hopefully Mike would have been a better person and champion for far longer. I'd like to get Mike's perspective on the situation now with the wisdom he's gained in later life.

    • @aniqshardin
      @aniqshardin 4 года назад +2

      @Carl Green he trained a lot of world champions.he doesnt need tyson to sell interview

    • @samgaudino1698
      @samgaudino1698 3 года назад +2

      @Sudarshan ara let's not act like mike was a grown man at the time either.

    • @Ken-iu2zp
      @Ken-iu2zp 3 года назад

      Exactly

  • @Brandon-ld2dn
    @Brandon-ld2dn 4 года назад +1

    Really good interview guys. Thank you

  • @vernefits1953
    @vernefits1953 Год назад +1

    Great episode love the content

  • @bisonmma-kickboxing2511
    @bisonmma-kickboxing2511 2 года назад

    This is one of the greatest interviews,. Epic!!

  • @americanhighlander254
    @americanhighlander254 2 года назад +6

    I certainly understand where atlas is coming from because no one likes to be undermined, and he's right, Tyson should have been made to follow the rules. However, Cus knew that Tyson had some challenges because he had a tougher childhood than the other kids, and you can't treat every kid/fighter the exact same way. More importantly I think, Cus knew that Tyson wasn't the average fighter, he was special.

  • @LeadWithLogic
    @LeadWithLogic 3 года назад +12

    What Teddy is describing is how these College, High School, AAU and now even Middle School prospects have BEEN treated. Tyson was THE BLUE CHIP boxer and Cus knew it. I don’t think it’s an indictment to Tyson, it’s more so a critique of Cus’ handling of Tyson.
    Tyson has been on record saying Cus didn’t really teach him anything by way of controlling his emotions....and right today he’s still emotionally volatile. I Love Mike for who he was and what he transcended, but we have to be honest.

  • @warking3523
    @warking3523 4 года назад +77

    Interview after interview. I'm convinced that Teddy absolutely hates Mike. It's really jealousy. You can see it

    • @warking3523
      @warking3523 4 года назад +10

      @CYRANO DE BERGERQUACK we heard that sob story a 1,000 times. Teddy wanted to be be Cus protege, but got hurt & had to resort to being a trainer. On the sideline watching Tyson become a shooting star

    • @warking3523
      @warking3523 4 года назад +5

      @CYRANO DE BERGERQUACK I think Teddy said that touched her butt, you act like he was grown & forced himself on her. They were both minors doing what immature kids do. I'm sure you have skeletons in your closet as well, stop the bs

    • @jakenconor
      @jakenconor 4 года назад +2

      But if some scumbag sexual deviant bully alienated your mentor/ father figure from you... You'd hate him too. Without a doubt.

    • @venicec3310
      @venicec3310 4 года назад +2

      King Greg fr stays talking foul about him yet mike never even brings up teddy

    • @sthot8520
      @sthot8520 4 года назад +1

      King Greg yea seriously

  • @TraceVandal
    @TraceVandal 4 года назад +7

    Is it just me or does this guy talk with the same accent and cadence as Mike Tyson (minus the lisp), makes sense, I'm sure they were around each other a lot.

    • @AstroChologistcom
      @AstroChologistcom 4 года назад +3

      Both New Yorkers. But Mike is from Brownsville Brooklyn and Atlas from Staten Island so different dialects of NY.

  • @daniel_belongs_to_christ
    @daniel_belongs_to_christ 3 года назад +35

    I watched Tyson on Rogan saying that Cus "summoned" Tyson. Tyson also said Cus was into mystic books. Now Atlas is saying he made a deal.

    • @daniel_belongs_to_christ
      @daniel_belongs_to_christ 3 года назад +3

      @@aregulardude6131 interesting perspective. Ive heard of people using the pyramids for this possible purpose. also I am familiar with Crowley who died "perplexed" as if his illumination went wrong. But what it actually means I have no idea. Jesus Christ is The light. But I am curious as to what books you are thinking he was using and what illumination really means.

    • @ike0G
      @ike0G 3 года назад +3

      Hes just saying he made deals with tyson. He let tyson get away with stuff he wouldnt allow other students to get away with.

    • @MrKonfekta
      @MrKonfekta 3 года назад +3

      @@ike0G I think that to, what are the other crackheads talking about?

    • @ORION2180
      @ORION2180 3 года назад

      @@daniel_belongs_to_christ into the rabbit hole we go, check out Jack Parsons and L.Ron Hubbard.

    • @jesse-ll3dh
      @jesse-ll3dh Год назад +1

      What deal? Astrology is in the Bible. I don't get what you're talking about here? Am I missing something?

  • @kartiersupremewhite330
    @kartiersupremewhite330 4 года назад +4

    great great interview Cus is,and was a great man.

  • @SpeechCheck
    @SpeechCheck 4 года назад

    Great segment.

  • @ztwntyn8
    @ztwntyn8 4 года назад +7

    Aquarius here 💪🏼👊🏼👌🏼

  • @downerpigs3265
    @downerpigs3265 4 года назад +7

    Teddy is saving my life.. Thank you Mr. Atlas. Your words transcend boxing. I miss my wife,

  • @beehappy3209
    @beehappy3209 4 года назад +3

    Want the full video now.😁

  • @USER-qs9od
    @USER-qs9od 4 года назад +19

    I know people love mike Tyson but it’s more than likely that a troubled kid who knew he was a freak of nature would push the boundaries . It would be insanely hard for someone that could see his potential to hold him to the same standard let alone an older man married to boxing.

    • @quantametric
      @quantametric 6 месяцев назад

      There's still no excuse for doing it, or for those around to not stop it.

  • @ggnoreeree
    @ggnoreeree 3 месяца назад +1

    I wanna know more about Cus and his mystical beliefs. Listen to Mike on JRE, Cus told Mike he “summoned” him. After Cus died Mike found all these esoteric books in his room.
    Fascinating stuff.

  • @valorelite5295
    @valorelite5295 2 года назад +2

    I really dislike what Teddy had to say about Cus. Cus never got married because he didn’t want his debts to be passed on to the woman he would have married. He let things slide with Mike Tyson because he knew he was special and believed in him to make history.
    Mike came from a childhood few can truly relate to and has developed into a truly incredible human being outside the ring. None of which would have happened without Cus believing in him and guiding him.
    I can understand his stubbornness towards not forgiving Mike, but I really can’t believe he’s still bitter towards Cus

  • @sancho7863
    @sancho7863 3 года назад +8

    Teddy just forever hanging on to that anger and resentment which means he has not really grown as a human being. Meanwhile, tyson has done everything and has experienced everything. He’s grown as a man and he wants to share what he’s learned with us. Teddy does not have the moral high ground over tyson. He’s just a sad and angry man

    • @jsksjdhdjjsjsnsnsn1873
      @jsksjdhdjjsjsnsnsn1873 Год назад +1

      You have a point

    • @greatestever7623
      @greatestever7623 10 месяцев назад

      100000% this dude been a hater of the relationship cus & mike had since day 1 look at mike how he evolved and this fool is still a bitter salty sour old man

  • @AikawaMartialArts
    @AikawaMartialArts 2 года назад +4

    Some of it may have been his way to save Mikes life. He may have literally known that gym was what kept him alive. It took Mike another 30 plus years to start living.... But it all started back there.

  • @albrown1812
    @albrown1812 Год назад +2

    It sounds like Cus was more understanding then teddy's father,it sounds like Cus understood that Tyson wasn't coming from a normal background,so he's not gonna be normal.Its sounds like Cus was empathetic to other humans,patient and a great philosopher..

    • @27MOJOKING
      @27MOJOKING Год назад

      At that point Cus was Mikes legal guardian so im sure Cus felt an obligation to look out for Mike more than other kids or Teddy

  • @gorilla-jack
    @gorilla-jack Год назад +2

    Cus being superstitious became a way for Teddy to “let me tell you about the bad Tyson again” - let it go bro. Tyson is damn near 60. A old wise man now. And here Teddy is, still bringing up Shit that still bothers him

    • @greatestever7623
      @greatestever7623 10 месяцев назад

      This dude will die a bitter hater just an old bitter man full of hate I don't give a shit how good of a trainer he is fuck him

  • @ORION2180
    @ORION2180 3 года назад +34

    Teddy still hating on Mike and Cus, damn.

    • @badapple9482
      @badapple9482 3 года назад +13

      He knows things about Mike that you dont. This doesnt sound like hating he's just being honest.

    • @ORION2180
      @ORION2180 3 года назад +5

      @@badapple9482 knowing more than me is beside the point. Atlas has a hard on to criticize Mike and Cus........for nearly 40 year old beefs. With Mike and Cus out of the equation, no one would give a damn for Atlas opinion, he’s smart enough to know there’s a market for Tyson/Cus lore and he’s maximizing on his pitiful disdain for them.

    • @badapple9482
      @badapple9482 3 года назад +4

      @@ORION2180 Have you heard Teddy talk about Mike messing with a young girl? He does and I believe him. Mike went back to his old neighborhood and did stick ups and assaults when Cus was his trainer. Mike will tell you himself he was an animal back then so I can understand Teddy not appreciating Cus taking Mikes side. I like Mike NOW but Teddy is right in saying Mike was unworthy of the special treatment he got back then. It's like the football player that skates through school on his athletic ability but has no character. Your probably right, no one would know of Teddy if it werent for Mike but who would you trust around your family, a 16 year old Mike or Teddy? Peace.

    • @ORION2180
      @ORION2180 3 года назад +1

      @@badapple9482 yes, I’ve heard that story. No reason to doubt Teddy. My contention had nothing to do with his accounting of decades old events, nor the degrees of depravity a teenage Tyson exhibited.

    • @luke3807
      @luke3807 3 года назад +1

      @@badapple9482 Teddy did time in Rikers. He should know better.

  • @Asim2846
    @Asim2846 3 года назад +4

    The real question is the following. If Teddy got it the way he wanted , would mike still become the heavyweight champion?

  • @xgodblesx
    @xgodblesx 2 года назад +2

    The problem I find with people is they are very judgemental, they cast stones, not condoning Tysons behaviour, but if you grew up like he did, you would understand what made him act that way.

  • @spykerhond7008
    @spykerhond7008 4 года назад +3

    he was a professional champion manufacturer . remember the film with him and ali where he actually demonstrates the tyson way long before tyson, that film where ali and cus is demonstrating how they would get each other in the ring .

    • @Maynard-il1yj
      @Maynard-il1yj 8 месяцев назад

      It’s called the peekaboo and he taught homeboy that shii

  • @PrinceJofficial
    @PrinceJofficial 4 года назад +6

    im PISCES and im a martial arts INSTRUCTOR. ive always told people about astrology as well. every sign has special abilities and characteristics.

    • @aresjerry
      @aresjerry 3 года назад

      What martial arts?

    • @PrinceJofficial
      @PrinceJofficial 3 года назад

      Jerold Spurgin Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Enshin Karate, and Muay Thai kickboxing at an mma gym KAIZEN MMA

    • @Quinsolae
      @Quinsolae 3 года назад

      Barnum effect

    • @NomPrenom1
      @NomPrenom1 3 года назад

      can you tell me what abilities does geminis have?

    • @aresjerry
      @aresjerry 3 года назад

      @@NomPrenom1 lol none inherently

  • @greenmantis2158
    @greenmantis2158 3 года назад +1

    Cus was so fascinating

  • @SuperJcoleFan
    @SuperJcoleFan 4 года назад +30

    can't wait to hear the full interview. Still want to hear that mobster (Michael Franzese) father. Make it happen @Valuetainment

    • @eshai27
      @eshai27 4 года назад +2

      With Sonny Franzese? Yeah good luck with that. This guy has La Cosa Nostra through his veins to this day.

    • @Irishkingking
      @Irishkingking 4 года назад

      It will Never happen the real deal men don't do interviews fact or fiction 😂😂😂

    • @lanceuppercut7477
      @lanceuppercut7477 4 года назад

      There’s videos of him talking with another younger guy he knew. They talk about his son it’s not an interview but he’s talking. None of them are loyal and why should they be. La cosa nostra are all scum.

    • @RAVENMoonTarot
      @RAVENMoonTarot 4 года назад

      There is about 2 or 3 videos. I just watched one.

    • @Allen216.
      @Allen216. 3 года назад

      He’s dead

  • @The_Honcho
    @The_Honcho 2 года назад +7

    Teddy is spitting facts, Tyson in his book pretty much agrees with everything Teddy says. There’s no reason to be angry or mad at Teddy when Tyson proved these things true later in in his life. And Cus was a fight trainer, he wanted to make a fighter. He believed his life’s work would culminate into creating the perfect fighter, and with Tyson was a damn good template to do so

  • @GODALMIGHTY85
    @GODALMIGHTY85 4 года назад +24

    I liked him before until he started to spew this hates some years ago. When it comes to Tyson making bad decisions, Tyson’s age at the time never comes up but when it’s about him then Atlas reminds everyone how he was young blah blah blah.

  • @MysteryGameGeEk3000
    @MysteryGameGeEk3000 Год назад +1

    Teddy would've never have been able to tame Tyson the way Cus did. He can critique all he wants about the way Cus handled him but at the end of the day, he took a kid that probably would've ended up in prison for the rest of his life and made him one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. If it were in Teddies hands... you would've never even heard of Mike Tyson. Cus did right with Tyson and nobody would have done it better including Teddy.

  • @Symbolicliving
    @Symbolicliving 4 года назад +30

    The political elite are in tune with astrology too. They time their events. Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn now speaks to the major insanity in politics now. I write about it.

    • @jimmydiamond1062
      @jimmydiamond1062 4 года назад +2

      I'm trying to figure out my transits. I have Neptune square asc. Saturn square Pluto. My Jupiter trines Venus. Can you help me understand

    • @Symbolicliving
      @Symbolicliving 4 года назад

      @@jimmydiamond1062 oh I didn't see your post until now. If you want to get an astrology reading from me you can on my website. Happy New Year!

  • @pab702
    @pab702 3 года назад +8

    I think Teddy feels that he could’ve helped Mike become an even better champ if Cus didn’t look out for him the way he did. Now I gotta watch the whole interview.

  • @robertrudick2492
    @robertrudick2492 2 года назад +2

    Cus was a great Teacher and professor of the Boxing Game. Check the U Tube Channel wen Cus was sparing with Muhammad Ali as old as Cus was at the time. Cus looked very sharp.
    Mike Tyson broke down wen Cus passed. There was heartbreak on both parties. I believe Mike Tyson loved Cus. No doubt in my mind.
    R.I.P Cus. God bless you and your family. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
    Amen

  • @murktee
    @murktee 3 года назад

    like with mike tyson you can see the water in their eyes when they talk about cus man they loved him. tyson cried everytime he speaks about cus, the mythical human

  • @ezboy88sonny14
    @ezboy88sonny14 3 года назад +4

    Cus said only, capricorns, cancers and Virgos would be heavyweight champions. And he was right

    • @LUKERs1196
      @LUKERs1196 3 года назад +1

      Holmes is scorpio

    • @ezboy88sonny14
      @ezboy88sonny14 3 года назад +1

      @@LUKERs1196 there are exceptions to every rule. You seriously thought only Virgos and Capricorns were the only heavyweights? A broken clock is still right twice a day.

    • @IblewuponyourfaceIII
      @IblewuponyourfaceIII 28 дней назад

      Tyson Fury, Ricke Bowe, Carlos Monzon, Chris Byrd, Ryan Garcia, Adrien Broner are Leo Sun ☀️ signs
      Cus was a smart man but he didn’t know enough about Astrology. It’s your Ascendant sign & your Mars along with other factors that play into you being athletic & the luck (Jupiter) to be a Champion. Ali was a Capricorn but a Leo ♌️ Ascensant/rising.

  • @amronmitchell9969
    @amronmitchell9969 4 года назад +8

    Rules are always meant to be broken for exceptional talent it’s a unwritten rule lol

  • @jasonmusic3
    @jasonmusic3 3 года назад +2

    Wow! I really like you Teddy, and it's obvious you didn't have a good relationship with Mike but at some point you have to let it go...😞😞🙏🏾🙏🏾❣️❣️

  • @askbubb
    @askbubb 2 года назад +1

    Just because he was a perfect fighter didn’t make him a perfect human being. Just like none of us are perfect. Mike’s imperfections just so happen to be seen by the world

    • @Infam0usKiller
      @Infam0usKiller 5 месяцев назад

      He was not a perfect fighter. There’s no such thing as a fucking perfect fighter.

  • @bashiirabdulmumin71
    @bashiirabdulmumin71 4 года назад +15

    Not saying what Tyson did was ok, but how many privileged kids with lawyers get out of their consequences.

  • @obgkillab6333
    @obgkillab6333 4 года назад +5

    Teddy atlas still has a deep imbedded hate for Tyson. He’s been trying so hard to tarnish Tyson’s name the pass few years.

  • @1Live2Love3Thrive
    @1Live2Love3Thrive 2 года назад +2

    He's always talking shit about Mike. We know Mike was a little shit as a kid but he had it rough, and we don't care, he's still the best!

  • @goose33
    @goose33 3 года назад +6

    Cus looks like aleister crowley... weird

    • @skepchica
      @skepchica 3 года назад

      Sounds like him too

    • @PhysiqueFuel
      @PhysiqueFuel 3 года назад

      I was literally thinking the same thing

  • @saneb5955
    @saneb5955 2 года назад +2

    Good interview. Just want to point out though… Alexander the Great was a Cancer. So was Julius Caesar. Not sure how much bearing zodiac signs would have on leadership skills though. But if you read about a Cancer and consider Alexander’s welcoming and nurturing of every culture he conquered, it does make you think. That being said I’m sure you could find a trait that matches every zodiac sign in everyone. Interesting none the less.

  • @rolandnelson6722
    @rolandnelson6722 8 месяцев назад

    The notion that it costs more, far more now, for a college education then shoulder to shoulder educated by Cus is a blight on college fees.

  • @PoltergeistHC4L
    @PoltergeistHC4L 10 месяцев назад

    wow that ending

  • @Infinite0396
    @Infinite0396 4 года назад +2

    Really love both these guys Atlas and Tyson-Tyson apologized to Teddy a few years ago-and I hope they become friends again before they die. I have to respect both-because Teddy was there and we weren’t so he’s allowed to say his side of the story and Tyson is also allowed his-both are valid

    • @bradleylovej
      @bradleylovej 9 месяцев назад +1

      This is a great take

  • @AnthonyMartinez-hm2iq
    @AnthonyMartinez-hm2iq 4 года назад

    Loveeeee you guysss!!

  • @AdonaiZedek
    @AdonaiZedek 4 года назад +4

    cus was a magician. ..probability practiced under crowley system

    • @Hadrada.
      @Hadrada. 4 года назад

      Lol

    • @AdonaiZedek
      @AdonaiZedek 4 года назад

      @@Hadrada. its a reach but funny

    • @Hadrada.
      @Hadrada. 4 года назад

      Adonai Zedek I’ve looked at links but are you serious I know who Crowley is?

    • @AdonaiZedek
      @AdonaiZedek 4 года назад

      @@Hadrada. no just joking .

    • @KingofgraceSARA
      @KingofgraceSARA 4 года назад +1

      Looks like him,too.

  • @spykerhond7008
    @spykerhond7008 4 года назад

    mike tyson inherited some of this man's ability to not want to be pretentious.

  • @albrown1812
    @albrown1812 Год назад

    You'd have to pay more for a college education,Look at Teddy today,one of the voices of the sport of boxing. Congratulations to the college graduate!!!

  • @Vision.Target.Shoot1
    @Vision.Target.Shoot1 Год назад

    Cus Had a Blue Sport Polo Shirt with #33 when walking with Tyson in the field

  • @adamzitsch9027
    @adamzitsch9027 5 месяцев назад

    Rip to cus he was a great boxing teacher

  • @ammarahsan1990
    @ammarahsan1990 3 года назад +2

    What Teddy does not understand is that people know him because of Tyson. If there was no Tyson, Teddy Atlas would have been an ordinary trainer noone knew of.

    • @teaghanfinks5083
      @teaghanfinks5083 3 года назад

      Bro r u fucking stupid? Look at how many champions he has trained. U don’t know anything of boxing , u dumb fuck .

    • @lennard5393
      @lennard5393 8 месяцев назад

      Teddy is based.

  • @aky19832001
    @aky19832001 4 года назад +17

    That pretty impressive that he memorized tysons bday

    • @awaaahe
      @awaaahe 4 года назад +4

      He s obssesed with him

    • @monkeyhidalgo
      @monkeyhidalgo 4 года назад +6

      It actually has sense when his mentor is into zodiacal signs.

    • @freddycalipari4242
      @freddycalipari4242 3 года назад

      some people are good at remembering birthdays

    • @larrykitchens8843
      @larrykitchens8843 2 года назад

      I remember everyone's birthday bc I believe in astrology it's definitely real

    • @ManPursueExcellence
      @ManPursueExcellence 5 месяцев назад

      Teddy has probably seen Tyson’s birthday many many times from the time they took him in.

  • @Snow_Pulse
    @Snow_Pulse 4 года назад

    The flash is out here

  • @erickaiser3679
    @erickaiser3679 4 года назад +1

    Atlus is good guy

  • @jimmychooquay
    @jimmychooquay 3 года назад +1

    I like teddy don’t get me wrong (because of the Tyson/Cus link only). But the same old negative stuff comes up every time. Tyson was a badass. So what. He’s a once in a life time special. When Cus met Tyson the planets all aligned. Be super greatful you was even there teddy in this super cosmic event.

  • @alcyone7785
    @alcyone7785 3 года назад +2

    Cus & Muhammad Ali were both Capricorns & also shared the same birthdate - January 17

  • @tysonturquoise6940
    @tysonturquoise6940 3 года назад

    King Pisces here and teachers hmmm sounds on point but its tough to tell people to have FAITH when diving deep into your oceanic mind and into this world and raising back to the surface for oxygen...

  • @chrissamd5391
    @chrissamd5391 8 месяцев назад

    Teddy speaks the truth. When you get a pound dog vs raising your puppy. They might be great dogs but they spent the first part surviving. If you were someone who survived and made some good changes before we made the ultimate f#$k up. Once a street dog always a street dog. Time and only time will teach us to act.

  • @TheKingjoe22
    @TheKingjoe22 4 года назад +3

    Rip Cus

  • @niinuetey9878
    @niinuetey9878 3 года назад +1

    great people are not good. Tyson said it. You cant be on top of your game and be a good person all the time. look at all the great people who are good at what they do. some great coaches know this natural and necessary flaws and embrace them because when the flaws are not there , the performance of the athlete surffers

  • @r.a.8407
    @r.a.8407 2 года назад +2

    Teddy just can't let go the ghost of mike tyson. Smh don't know what happen but that hate run deep

  • @1hundread948
    @1hundread948 4 года назад

    Teddy probably felt a need to protect Tyson from future problems i.e. Missed Washington. They need to reconcile it would be helpful for Teddy, Tyson already did his time for his flaws and mistakes the same most young boys make, famous or not boys will be boys.

  • @askbubb
    @askbubb 2 года назад

    Cue did what he was supposed to do turn my Tyson into the heavyway champion of the world. That’s It. Everything else was for someone else to help Mike through

  • @cp1048
    @cp1048 8 месяцев назад

    He apologized and today is a better person that is only striving to be even better. The teacher has now become the student teddy smh
    "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong"

  • @BABYEARL2
    @BABYEARL2 Год назад +1

    Leos don't like anyone being greater than them if they see your greater they want to see you lose they would hold love from you just to see you fall. Leo's are great but some of them gotta be the main character

  • @hurrifanc.3434
    @hurrifanc.3434 2 года назад +1

    From my own personal analysis the best fighters and im basing this off of MMA are Cancer-Leo cusps.

  • @MikeyMuse52
    @MikeyMuse52 3 года назад

    Is this guy the voice of the Burger Eater Everyman guy in Bob's Burgers ?

  • @LittleRapGuy
    @LittleRapGuy 3 года назад

    There were/are doctors doing way worse than the little kids could do from the campuses, and on/off it connected, every spot.

  • @DrezdanJackson
    @DrezdanJackson 14 дней назад

    Capricorns are really good ate being enablers. Very loving and supportive but they will ignore terrible things in those they care for.

  • @johnn4314
    @johnn4314 3 года назад +3

    this is scary and explains the darkness in Tyson. After Tyson admitted.... "he summoned me". I wish he would get set free that tyson guy.

  • @iv7796
    @iv7796 3 года назад

    I guess Im a good teacher 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jsksjdhdjjsjsnsnsn1873
    @jsksjdhdjjsjsnsnsn1873 Год назад

    What is Teddy saying at the very end after:
    You wouod have to pay much more for college educaction and college education is....
    - I can not understand the very last words as english is not my first language

  • @TheLibra926
    @TheLibra926 3 года назад

    Been saying this!!
    Ali , foreman, Hopkins, Frazier, Capricorn
    Mind u I'm a libra and i noticed shyt

  • @Bz779s
    @Bz779s 4 года назад +4

    🤔Is this about cus or Tyson 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @fishgarden5590
    @fishgarden5590 2 года назад +1

    ♋️ 🙏

  • @MarkWhippy
    @MarkWhippy 4 года назад +1

    7:50 damn $50 a week back then is almost $200 in today’s money? Still sounds expensive to me. Unless Teddy means $50 in today’s money.