Michael Jai White on Rumor Mike Tyson's Trainer Cus D'Amato was Gay (Part 19)
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Michael Jai White and Vlad discussed the rumor that famed boxing trainer Cus D'Amato, who trained champions such as Mike Tyson, was homosexual. Vlad reflected on a conversation he had with Teddy Atlas, who personally dismissed the claims about D'Amato's sexuality. According to Atlas, D'Amato was 'married to the sport of boxing,' refraining from conventional family life to dedicate himself entirely to his athletes. He was attuned to the inherent unfairness it would cause a potential spouse or child. White echoed Atlas' sentiments, dwelling on his knowledge of D'Amato as a great trainer and mentor rather than commenting on his personal affairs. Развлечения
I've been a boxing fan for 40 years, and never heard of that rumor.....until Vlad bough it up🤷🏾♂️
Noo the rum era I heard were pedo rumors where he use to take black boys out the hood.. I heard that one
I remember coming across the rumor yearrrrs ago. The story was about how Cus tried to sleep in the same bed as Floyd Patterson during training camp, and tried to play footsies with him or something like that.
Facts. Never heard this BS until now
Me too ... an who cares . This us so dumb
Even if he was who cares, it’s probably what made him so good because he wasn’t worried about having to make enough money to please some ungrateful partner
Vlad is a vindictive guy. Mike punked him on his show and now he’s doing petty stuff like this. There’s no value in even asking Jai White this.
It is a shame he felt punked.
Mike did not do that at all.
Over exaggerated lol.
yeah it’s little snubs , subliminally sending shots because of the tyson interview. tbh it’s not even relevant if he was gay or not anyway
Mike is going to end up paying this guy a visit if he don’t stop!
Tyson is going to pay him a visit
I’m waiting for that Murders Inc. biopic with Pittsburgh Phil
will mike bite the ear
Hey Vlad, quit being a coward and ask Mike Tyson that and ask him to his face! If you can't do that, then shut up asking different people that question. 💯
Ask Iron Mike if he sits or stands while pissing too
He won’t because he’ll get that Brooklyn beat down.
@@jay-nx4uq I agree and would love that very much. Some people just want to cross the line with no consequences and he needs someone to put him in check on so many levels.
Vlad claims to be so liberal but is clearly homophobic...why does it matter to you so much
@@kellystewart9973 man you are 100% right I love watching vlad but what really get to me when he on here trying to tell a grown man how he should do this and that like he’s this perfect person , man had to never to question Mike Vick about how he was spending his money when he first got drafted like it’s a problem helping friends out who was there with you from the start , you can’t tell a man what to do with his 💰he worked his ass off to get
Wife and kids doesn't mean you're not gay and everybody's business ain't Show Business and everybody's business ain't your business
Cus wasn't a queer, yall always wait for a mfer to be dead to question they sexuality.
Truth I don’t have a wife and kids but I’ve been with more wmn that most men
Okay I agree but unless you have proof one way or the other keep that person's name out of your mouth.
Means you're bi
Lmao having a wife and kids 100 % means you’re not gay
This is the world we live in, just because you're single people automatically assume you are gay, Mr Cus was a legendary trainer. just look at men who got wives, how many of them are truly happy or faithfully honest, sometimes it's best to be single and happy.
They doing the same thing to Luther Vandross
EXACTLY!
Man preach. They're still using gay people as a weapon against people who are not gay or not been proven to be gay. It's elementary. B*******
@@jasondawson92you’re not helping his point, Luther was great but he was gay as fuck lol
Cus wasnt a queer, yall pushing the narritive again.
never heard till Vlad asked Teddy lol
@@AliFrankTheTank I've definitely heard the rumor before.
It’s never even been a rumor. Vlad is part of “the tribe,” this is what they do, they subvert tradition and everything that is good.
PEDOPHILE WAS THE RUMOR FOR YEARS
@@JohnDoe113lol how tho ?? 😂😂 who u hear it from ? The internet?
At minute 1:10, listen to Vlad when he speaks to a white person. Then listen how he speaks to a black person. Changes his accent and tries to act urban. Vlad is Such a buster.
You're Hella right! He always does that shyt.
But BOTH of you are still here. Neither 1 of you, is minding ya own Biz.
Hell, neither am I LMFAOOOO
@user-sj3jj1rx2r
I hate when I see losers do that, it tells me they are fake
*HOW DO YOU TALK TO YOUR BOSS AT WORK* = Oh right, you're a so-called DIGITAL CREATOR
Like that's a f'nnnnnnn Real Job
I’m pretty sure we all do that lol. He is a vulture though
Wonder if Vlad is gay. Maybe we can start rumors and doubts about him too with nothing to base this crap on.
T o assume a man is gay because of his lack of being seen with women or not having kids is crazy. There's dudes with 8 kids and married being exposed as being gay living a double life.
Cus lived with Tyson's manager, Jim Jacobs, in a discreet apartment for years. Both were bachelors the entire time. Both men attracted rumours of being gay (Jim) or bisexual (Cus) for years. Cus and Jacobs both died of pneumonia, a common symptom of terminal AIDS patients. Cus drew attention for his actions around Floyd Patterson, the shy, lisping, intelligent, soft spoken kid he coached to winning the Heavyweight belt, including:
• Spending his share of the winnings from the title fight ($35K) on a jewel-encrusted golden crown for Patterson (WTF?!)
• Sleeping on a cot near Floyd's, in front of the door to his room, ostensibly due to concerns (paranoia?) about Floyd being poisoned.
• Apparently being witnessed sleeping in the same bed as Floyd, which seems to be corroborated by Floyd himself, who commented on an incident where Cus seemingly rubbed his feet with his own (possibly in his sleep).
• Also, it's worth pointing out that Floyd once made a bit of a weird comment about Cus: _"He makes mistakes, but the more they try to turn me against him, the more his quality comes out. _*_Lucky he isn't a woman. I might have married him."_*
Cus spent sev. years in a "civil union' with a woman; they never married, and never slept in the same bed, or even the same room, apparently due to Cus's thunderous snoring, caused by a post-nasal drip. I guess his snoring hadn't begun or become so heinous in the 50s?
Tyson says he thought Cus was a ph*ggot when he first met him, due to him being an old white guy who took such a shine to him (a 12 or 13YO black kid in juvie), seemingly for no reason.
@@horaceosirian8993 I know these stories but with all that being said nobody definitively says he's gay and Patterson who admitted all that never said he fucked him. Even the Jim Jacob's situation still doesn't prove anything. Cus was extremely old susceptible to pneumonia anyway.
who gives a shit if he was gay or not...what does that have to do with his legacy? Cus was a legend and if he lived mike wouldnt have gone through any of the shit he went through.
Vlad has been obsessed with the gay topic for years. At one point he spent 2 years asking every guest about “men wearing skirts in Hip Hop”
For a lot of straight men, gay males is synonymous with evil. They see one bad gay person and all of a sudden its the whole community. But its really just homophobia and selective justice or self righteous indignation.
Been hearing a rumor that Vlad made a pass at Rick Ross, which started the whole issue between them. Allegedly…
Lol
😂😂😂
Dude, they're all intel tools or agents. The entire Kabuki show crew.
Why are people so fixated on peoples sexual preferences?
Man preach the people who are like that are the same people that can't keep the gay community out of their mouths look at all his guests. Bootsy Aries, John, Sally and now MJW. They all talk about it literally every time they're on his show along with others. This s*** never ends
I think it's because so many people are worried they might be gay
@@bbb462cid If you worried that you might be gay then there are other issues that you need to address within yourself in real life, but guys need to stop with this stupid s***
black americans in particular are extremely homophobic
Only Vlad
Vlad put himself on Mike Tyson's hit list
Guarantee Vlad NEVER ask Mike Tyson this in person.
Hell f*ck no he would never ask that question in front of Mike.....ONLY if Vlad was planning to get Mike taken out by asking such a question that he know would get Mike to lay hands on him which would provoke that armed security to do what he's getting paid for.
@@ScottFischer2024I think if Mike dropped him, the security would just pull them apart. But vlad would regret it.
Lol the Mike today wouldn't drop him
@@hlny3162 probably right but it would definitely provoke Tyson and irritate the he’ll out of him which would scare Vlad.
@@ScottFischer2024 if there was a altercation security can’t just pull out a gun and start shooting. He would go to prison and possibly Vlad.
Funny to me that when someone says they’re gay we are to accept them but when someone lives their whole life saying they’re not gay, it’s cool to speculate lol
The only way to stop Vlads BS is for everyone to completely stop visting his channel. Thats gonna be hard to do unless we all collectively agree.
Like... I know he's full of shit, but too there's somethings about him I really like. So to me it's a matter of opinion. Vlad reminds of my brother. He's an OG, but he's wildin' too😂
@@digi_tvyour brother is an OG square?
@@davruck1 something like that
SPOT. F*CKING. ON. MY. MAN.
Spot f**king on.
I like how Mike transitioned into an actual interesting topic.
The person he needed to be asking that is Mike, and we all know Vlad won’t do that, 🤨
You forgot Floyd Patterson in Cus D’Amato’s pantheon of champions.
How could they forget Floyd Patterson? Damn shame.
Yes, repulsion that also. Floyd Patterson was a great champion.
Rocky Marciano was his fighter too
@@IblewuponyourfaceIII Rocky’s manager was a guy named Al Weill
@@connshawnery6489 Didn’t know but I just saw a video of Mike Tyson talking about Cus, saying he was worried someone would take him away from him cause a lot of his fighters left him including Rocky Marciano.
Vlad being raggedy asf
Vlad is gay in his own "raggedy ass" intervieing kind of way😅
Not implying anything sexual. Just has a sleazy way about how he comes off.
Why does Vlad have this gay obsession?
probably because he is gay
Cus only made two champions? Holy shit these people don't know anything about boxing.
Was he gay?
-Well, did you see him doing gay stuff?
No. Was he gay?
-So what makes you think he was gay?
Was he?
I know right people are still using gay as a weapon to attack others
Dear Vlad…….. NEVER ask this question directly to Mike Tyson, Sincerely, Your safety.
Y'all Betta tell Vlad his bodyguard ain't gonna save his ass from Mike Mike don't play bout cus
Why didnt vlad ask mike tyson about this?
PLEASE PLEASE 🙏 ... HE GOING KNOCK HIM OUT N UNDER ...
Would you ask him
STOP IT Vlad....STOP IT!!!
"Shoot... I don't know!" Perfect response.
Man what is vlad talking about, how would he know. 🤦🏾♂️
Cus had a woman.. they just weren’t married, he was obsessed with boxing
And cus had 3 champions not 2, Floyd Patterson, Jose Torres, and Mike Tyson both Patterson and Tyson were the youngest in history.
Right, vlad needs to get his facts straight
Why does Vlad always ask about being gay
What does it matter if Tyson's trainer was gay? That never stopped Tyson from becoming a champ because of great training.
I lot of old people die from pneumonia and heart failure
He also trained the LEGENDARY Floyd Patterson. I wouldn't want to run into Mike Tyson after talking about Cus' personal legacy on camera, on a giant platform. It's completely unnecessary.
Vlad: let me look it up, no he was never married
Why bring a topic without doing research 😂
Welp ! no more mike Tyson interviews on Vlad 😂
Why Michael John White wearing the thriller jacket
There is a book called fire in fear, and it has many implications of what happened in the Catskills mountains with cus .
Vlad really be looking to make ppl messy. MJW was like, "umm, okay, now what??" Like what do you want him to say about Gus never being married or being gay
Vlad back in the day remember people would dedicate themselves to one thing, so I can see him just being dedicated to boxing.
Why Vlad always trying to grow this rumor?
Vlad why you didn't ask Mike that s#!t 🤣
Because he knows iron mike would accept this 💩
This literally the only place I’ve ever heard that be a rumor. How tf would MJW even know?…
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Tyson’s not going to like this
The KEW is the Instructors of CONFUSION. Nobody has ever said this.
I gotcho Warriors alright !!!
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why does Vlad want this to be true?
If he was gay, would it even matter?
Vlad wants someone prominent to share his lifestyle so bad
Vlad tryna label him Sus D'mato..... That's found bro.
I don’t know how a man would be able to hide that he’s gay without eventually being caught . Somebody would say something eventually. Or eventually you would end up making a pass at the wrong dude
That's not true at all. According to rumor, Marvin Gaye hit the fact that he was gay for a very long time up until his death. Don't know if that's true or not, nor did I care but that's other people's business. I could care less who's gay and who's not as long as they're happy and they're not hurting anybody
@@flyguy7825 I think we are first and foremost reproductive beings so I think it is noteworthy if a man gets hit the seat. And I don’t understand why people feel the need to say I don’t care as a way of making them selves feel somehow enlightened. But that being said , the poet and writer whose last name was Baldwin, I forget his first name was actually secretly gay -but then his lover dimed him out later on after he died. Point being if two people are in a gay relationship there’s going to be evidence of that relationship somewhere. People accused Marvin Gaye of being gay, simply as a joke because of his last name.
@@MrSanford65 No, it wasn't because of his last name. There were people who worked closely with Marvin Gaye that spread the rumor that he really was gay again, I don't know if that rumor was true or not, nor do I care and what you're saying about being reproductive beings brah what it's not noteworthy. What do I care if the other man is gay or not? What would you care if a man is gay or not? What impact would it have on you or your life to know that one way or the other?
@@flyguy7825 well being a little more than an animal, or a savage, my mind can expand to contemplate things as right or wrong, or odd beyond any immediate impact on myself . And if I find out a dude is getting bent over the sink, that is part of his character I assess him by . Just like if he was a cross dresser, an adulterer, or anything else. It’s the liberal society they tries to put your mind into a box and tell you what to care or not care about. Not caring is not an intellectual exercise. It only makes you numb to the truth .
@Mr,Sanford, That's not why that rumor came.out and James Baldwin never denied that he was gay. Everyone knew that. He just didn't let it interfere with his political beliefs. Now Baynard Ruston hide that he was gay and a CIA asset. You might be confusing the two since both of them were gay and involved in civil rights.. As far as Marvin Gaye the reason those rumors came out is because he was very homophobic. His father was a flamboyant homosexual. To the point where he'd cut grass in a dress. That's also why him and his father always had issues. Marvin didn't like being picked on because his father was a well known homosexual in their community and he was cheating on Marvins mom.with men. We all saw how their relationship worked out. Marvin was so homophobic that Gaye wasn't even his real last name.. It was Gay without the E. He added the E because he didn't even want his last name to be gay.People knew how homophobic he was and why so people he ran a foul.on put those rumors out for revenge. It didn't have anything to do with his last name though. It's much deeper than that because as we know his father is the one who ended up killing him.💯
Jesus Christ did u see how Vlad was trying to get a reaction out of him?? And I hate when he does that “idk maaaaan”. That’s when u know he’s trying to push a narrative.
🤔💭 Vlad should ask for MJW thoughts on Cus sitting or standing while urinating
Now when Mike Tyson ever the chat you're going to show some respect then! 🥊
Thumbs Up if you like too see Vlad ask Mike Tyson vs The Man who Played Mike Tyson or His Trainer that question?
Wtf did I just watch. The slander of Cus's name. The man isn't here to defend himself.
Keep it up vlad, Mike is coming
And some people think a man’s life is EASY. If you have lots of women you’re called a womanizer, if you just pay for sex without relationships you’re called a simp, and if you just keep to yourself you’re labeled an Incel or gay. A man can’t be single without a reason, even Seinfeld and the Sopranos shed light on this in some episodes
It's crazy.
Whether he was or not is none of our business.
Cus was one of the best trainers EVER and a true student of psychology and philosophy.
Maybe Vlad keeps asking this question because he secretly wants Cus to be gay? 😂😂😂
Vlad aint ask mike this when he interviewed him before? Never heard this shit before
Never offend the great Cus D’amato like that again 🤮🤮
Mike Tyson in the next VladTV interview: "You said what about Cus being gay?"
VladTV: "Nah I'm just sayin' ya nahmean. Just sayin' he was happy. Nahmean. Gay means happy ya nahmean. Nahmean."
So he's gonna ask gay looking Michael Jai White for answers? 😂
Cus not gay cuz Yahll went for a ride and told u where he grew up is a crazy explanation. 😂😂😂😂😂
Leave it alone Vlad I've been a boxing fan for over 40 years and never ever heard anything like that ever and it's out of line to drag the mans name in the dirt this way .
Vlad a big ass bitch for this iam send this video to mike my self 😤 vlad is smoked out fr....
The Marine hardliners would say “If the Corps wanted me to have a wife they would have issued me one”
Teddy ur were lucky man. Tyson was friends with serious gangsters from brooklyn....he could of got u touched!
He's not gay, he's Italian
So Vlad asked Teddy Atlas if Cus was Gay, Teddy said emphatically NO! why is Vlad asking again, why does it matter?
Vlad doesn’t care if someone is gay but he ask about people’s sexuality all the time. Why does it matter? As long as he wasn’t hurting kids or anyone that shouldn’t be asked.
I've never heard that rumor
DJ VAG, you always try to put that “gay” coat on somebody who’s not here to defend themselves. You did the same shit with Rudy Ray Moore. DJ VAG put that coat on yourself nd be “GLAD. 😁😆😂🤣
😂😂😂
vlad...invite Tyson and ask him that question, I dare you! LMAO!
You guys are forgetting about Floyd Patterson what is a customda champion along with Jose Toras
If he ask mike tyson that question mike will be back in jail.
💯
I wish Vlad would ask Mike Tyson this question
Is it even an interview anymore with these guests Vlad? Are u really interviewing MJW?
Adam 22 just talked about how Vlad never brings women up around him so people think vlad is possibly gay he always saying dudes his man were the WOman
Just because he wasn’t married, doesn’t mean that he was gay as such a false equivalent, and furthermore, the live-in homemaker if you will, didn’t serve as his wife?
His brothers wife
How is this even a topic
Michael jai White did a great job of shutting Vlads snitch mouth from telling on Tyson on camera, then smoothly changed the subject.
Who gives a crap if he was anyway he was still a great trainer
Never heard of that rumour and have read just about everything there is about boxing and boxing history.
Patterson was a Cus champion too.
Vlad you could of asked Tyson to his face. I wonder why you didnt smh. Lmao
So you asked Teddy about it, he said no, now you're asking MJW about it who would know even less about it??
Floyd Patterson was the reason he wanted a Mike Tyson due to the beating by Sonny Liston
Floyd Patterson was also trained by Cus D`Amato. Cus had at least three world champions.
I dare vlad to ask Mike Tyson That I Bet You Won’t
There is no rumor.
Can we not make rumors about dead people?
Rumor? Literally never heard about that crap.
Comedian George Wallace never married or had kids either. Is he gay now??? Smh
What is Micha jai talking about theres video of teddy and tyson at a amateur tournament with mike tyson crying on teddy shoulder bcuz he was nervous/scared
Floyd Patterson was world champ too.
Y’all gotta stop calling every person from the past gay to fit this weirdo modern narrative