Mike Tyson - On What He Learned Studying the Great Conquerors of History
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2021
- Here, Mike demonstrates the extent of his seriousness in study, his depth of knowledge studying the psychology and mindset of great conquerors throughout history, and his reflections on the morality of conquering, of ego-centric grandiosity, and the consequences of that. Most striking is his dedication of study - "first I studied the great soldiers, then the generals, then their Gods..."
“No. I am a conqueror now because I’ve conquered myself and my demons”
Wow. Mike Tyson is wise
Maybe the greatest conquerer is the friends we meet on the way
@@drayhudson3776 greatest men are lone wolfs
💜
@@drayhudson3776 lmao
@@codygreen6855 cringe
This man is a lot smarter then he's given credit for.
I wouldn't call someone smart for knowing brash details, I mean you can learn a lot of this through the movie
@@sudstahgaming It's not just basic details, he shows an impressive depth of knowledge about obscure topics in history he hasn't studied in 30 - 40 years.
@@sudstahgaming It's not brash details, it's how he interprets them. Like all great conquerors were mama's boys (high respect for their mothers), all great conquerors declared themselves as god's but in the end started begging for forgiveness to god because they couldn't forgive themselves. It is deep. Your lack of intelligence is making you blind to Mike's genius
@@sudstahgaming your comment shows ignorance, it's not only about him reading and knowing details, it's how he applied it to his life and conquered himself, something most people don't truly do their whole lives.
@@evanq9743 These comments are damn annoying, he conquered the ring for a time, he didn't conquer himself for decades he struggled, he overcame the main problems he had but even now he hasnt conquered himself no one truly does, all you with these stupid comments you just look like disciples blind to reality...define what you mean by conquered? If your just pointing to his boxing success and celebrity you are an idiot, and applied what to his life being driven and mummy's boy I mean come on!!!
"When I studied history, I learned about human nature. I learned the hearts of men"
Mike Tyson
A true historian doesn’t remember names and dates. A true historian grasps the concepts, the reasonings, the questions and perspectives of said time periods. This man fits that picture. I would pay money to take a class with this man at the podium.
ur goofy
@@oglambert7705 the only goofy guy here is you
@@theguillenreports7315 mike Tyson is no historian he did his best to grasp basic concepts and recount them back but he would be a pain to listen to and he’d struggle through answering any reasonable questions. Tyson is no historian he’s a fighter and to pretend his brains not mush with how much he’s been hit in the head is one thing but to then say he’d be a great teacher of something other than fighting is interesting. And in my opinion goofy and feels like an exaggeration just for likes
@@oglambert7705 ok bro its your opinion I will respect it we all think different things. No one is perfect.
facts
I could listen to Tyson talk about conquers and the history of boxing forever
Was just about to say that. If he was my teacher I would’ve conquered high school lol
So true
ruclips.net/video/oJADTjrhPjU/видео.html
He has access to Cus's boxing film library.
Tyson is a dummy , he has no idea what he is Talking about
Tyson conquered the Boxing arena but most importantly he conquered himself.
Nice
💥 This.
eventually
He didn't conquer himself he was manipulated by others
Slowdown there buddy. He lost to great fighters, but he wasn't a great boxer.
"Greatness is the willingness to die" - Mike Tyson 8:16 mark. That touched my soul right there
the first time I heard it was, Greatness is the woman has to die
"Conquer your fear and I promise you will conquer death."
Alexander (2004)
He respected muhammad ali so much because he would die for what he believed in
@@immortaljanus
Stupidest thing ever said. Think about it, "Conquer Death"? Hahahahagahahaha
so all efillists, antinatalists and suicidals are great haha
My favourite trait of Tyson is that EVERY question he gets asked, he thinks long and hard to answer you with every fiber of his being.
No empty or generic answers from him. It's just pure, raw insight.
Pause
Lol
he may not be the smartest tool in the shed but he refuses to be an idiot
@@caralho5237 Sharpest tool in the box the saying is.
@@paulanthony5274 yea i forgot english isnt my main language
As a historian, he actually has a pretty good grasp of history, it was cool to see him talk so knowledgeably about Alexander and his family. As well as hearing him describe a simple version of Alexander's plans for the intermingling of Greek and Eastern culture
Do you know where I can read about his plans for intermingling Greek and Eastern culture as well as what he thought about the Afghanis like what Mike claimed? This is the first time I’ve heard about it and I couldn’t find much on the internet. I already knew about the Indo-Greek kingdoms but that was more than 100 years after he died
Greek is eastern culture.
@@user-uc7qb1su4e Alexander's wife (roxanne, aka Rashana) was an afghan woman. That's what he's referring to. And this is strongly documented in the region of afghanistan too. Western texts generally ignore the documentation from that region, even regarding Alexander's death. according to western literature he died of sickness, according to central asian/afghan history he died of an infection (or poisoning) from an arrow to his leg. The arrow to his leg was done by an afghan tribe who fought back against him. There's a whole lot in the history behind it, and what exactly happened is hard to say. 1 thing we know for certain though, Alexander's ties to the afghan people were very strong (to the point that kandahar province is named after him, there was a city of alexandria built in the region that still has buildings to this day, and many afghans are named Sikandar after him) and the afghan people were difficult to deal with.
I'll finish off this rant with the following quote which some people attribute to alexander, “I am involved in the land of a leonine and brave people, where every foot of the ground is like a well of steel, confronting my soldier. You have brought only one son into the world, but everyone in this land can be called an Alexander.” - Alexander the great on afghanistan
@@user-uc7qb1su4e look up Bactria, the greco-bactrian kingdom, Hellenistic arachosia, the pakol. Afghanistan has heavy Greek influence to this day.
To be fair, the Middle East was very Caucasian back then - and Babylon was the centre of knowledge - so it's not suprising.
Gosh, even Mike's pauses are filled with energy and awe. A philosopher indeed.
I gather that immediately!
Philosher
@@MartinJohnsonIII LMAOOO 😂😂😂
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1:20 Mike Tyson is cultured ... (he is right)
Historical facts = Olympias, the mother of Alexander the Great.
But who was this woman who is said to have astonished the Macedonian king with her beauty ?
I will write based only on facts, that is, on the quotes of famous ancient authors, mainly Greek.
( For me there is one thing in history, which with the facts are not said ... )
According to Plutarch, Alexander was a descendant of Ajax through his father Neoptolemos and this is accepted without discussion.
According to Justin, Philip married Olympias, daughter of Neoptolemos, king of the Molosses.
All the authors thus agree on the fact that Alexander the Great was the grandson of a Molossian.
For those who do not know this tribe (the Molossians), who were they, what territory did they occupy and how were they considered by the ancient authors ?
Let us stop for a moment to know more about the tribe of the Molossians from which the mother of Alexander the Great came.
To make it simple, the tribe of Molossians is in Epirus somewhere in the region of Chamerie on the back of Thesprotians who dominated the coastal part.
In addition to this, the Kaons who were in the south of present-day Albania and who constituted three of the great tribes of Epirus.
Historically, tribes like the Molossians or others who composed Epirus like the Kaons, the Thesprotians, the Paraue, the Antintans and others, are historically linked to the Illyrian (🇦🇱) culture or to a part of it.
As Thucydides tells us about the events of the Peloponnesian War that involved both actually in reality Illyrians and Illyria itself, these tribes were commonly considered barbarian (non-Greek) tribes.
Thucydides: - "Among the barbarians there were about 1,000 Kaons who ruled without a king. Along with the Kaons, the Thesprotians also participated and were also ruled without a king. There were also the MOLOSSIANS, the Atintants and the Paraues.
( HISTORY OF THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR )
All these tribes, mentioned by the historian of Athenian origin Thucydides for their participation in the famous Peloponnesian war in the 5th century B.C., are considered as barbarians, therefore not Greek!
( Thucydides II, 80- IV, 126 )
The Kaons, the Thesprotians of Chamerie, the Arintans and the Parauets constitute the backbone of what one called Epirus.
Among them are of course the Molossians where are the roots of the family of the mother of Alexander the Great !
And Thucydides is not the only source which defines the Epirotes as non-Greeks.
There are many others!
According to the encyclopedia Basic Antiquity, composed of 86 volumes... Pauly Wissowa the Real "Encyclopedia Alterumswissenschaft" says that the Epirotes are of Illyrian origin 🇦🇱 and have strong links with the population of southern Italy!
More concise on the issue, the only Nobel Prize in history 🎓 is none other than Theodor Mommsen author of the cycle "Corpus of Antiquity inscriptions" which says that: - "the brave Epirotes, the Albanians 🇦🇱 of antiquity supported with traditional loyalty the young and brave Pyrrhus or "the Eagle" as they called him " .
Let us point out on this subject that the Albanians name themselves "Shqiptar", that is to say "sons or children of the eagle".
The soldiers of Pyrrhus (3rd century BC / Epirote King), called their King "the Eagle" and that the latter retroqued them one day that they were his "children", so the Albanians are the children of the Eagle ...
"Shqiptar = child of the Eagle .... " .
(Pyrrhus was the cousin of Alexander the Great, of the Molossian tribe and himself an ambitious conqueror, Pyrrhus is one of the most formidable adversaries of the early days of ancient Rome).
Lorenzo Braccesi (Professor of Greek History at the University of Venice, Italy, in 1986) tells us:
- "Olympias was originally from Epirus, on the part of the father who was king of Epirus, on the part of the mother also and that Illyrian blood 🇦🇱 circulated in the family, there is no doubt. "
( 9,01- 9,15 . The true story of Alexander the great ... - Gjurmë Shqiptare )
That the Epirotes are or are not Illyrians is a discussion that, from an archaeological point of view, is resolved.
The Epirotes and the Illyrians have the same culture, if we consider the Iron Age, the use of tombs, fortifications with several rows of walls, their material culture, the shape of the pots or the ornaments which are identical to those of Korça (current Albania) and religion.
Not only ancient authors like Thucydides, Strabo and others have called the Epirotic tribes barbarians (non-Greek) but also later serious publications based on documents and archaeological findings point out the same thing.
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and the sister .
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and sister of another well known Illyrian prince "Alexander the Molossus".
I believe that all or part of the strong character of Alexander comes exactly from his mother, from the house that also gave birth to Pyrrhus.
The powerful role of women in Illyrian society has been documented by many authors, including those who today identify themselves as Greeks, such as Athenaeus and Theompope.
Olympias' influence on her son Alexander was so great.
She believed that her son had divine blood and that he was born to rule the greatest kingdom of all time.
But the mother's family was not the only Illyrian family to which Alexander was affiliated, his link with the Illyrians was stronger than that!
"Greatness is the willingness to die... I am a conquerer now because I have conquered myself and my demons"
Had I not heard this from Mike Tyson, I would have said that this could have been the words of Marcus Aurelius, or Julius Ceasar.
Namaste Mike! 🙏🙏🙏
That's also an extremist saying 😂😂
No. In what way does that have ANYTHING to do with extremists? Especially the "conquered MYSELF and my demons" isn't ... @@Sophia-bq2sp
As an historian and teacher of 20 years I would LOVE to take a class with Professor Tyson...he knows his history!
Dude has an extreme breadth and understanding of history with a very unique insight.
Not really
Respect to you for acknowledging Tyson like that and putting your own ego aside even though you no doubt would have a much larger understanding of history!
Tyson truely is a unique man!
@@JKTProductionzIncNCo shut up clown he’s more of a man then you could ever dream of becoming
Show some respect mate
@@Desideratus21 but your ego can't handle Tyson's diverse knowledge hence your intent fragile intent to minimize what he knows when the reality is you have no means of measuring what he does know. Stay delusional.👍👍👍👍
The difference between a conqueror and a normal person is a normal person is willing to concede at some point that they are wrong and they doubt their conviction. A conqueror KNOWS the world is a different place without them in it. A conqueror KNOWS they have the ability to carve the world into their image. Sometimes I wonder how many conquerors there are still in the world who have become subdued by society, but in a different time, they would own a part, or perhaps all of the world.
Donald trump
I feels that man we definitely live in very very very different times then back then.
👍
@@sdmfp333
Nothing to do with Trump. STFU with the stupid obsession.
@@sdmfp333 Donald trump is more like the Russian royalty that Khan captured and order his men to Dance on top of and trample to death. The man couldn’t even win the popular vote let alone conquer the world.
He is wise, WISE, autodidact, deep and very high eloquent pretty much way more wise than a lot of peoole out there having degrees after studying to Harvard.
He is such a precious person!
Thank you Mike Tyson!
When i was little, Mike Tyson was my hero. I am 57 now and I still look up to him for inspiration. I started boxing at 40ish. Get the body going, feed the mind, the rest will follow.
The fact Mike Tyson has consciously taken the time to acknowledge his weaknesses in all the power he possessed and done the research to refine himself is a testament to self-awareness. ✊🏽🖤
self centeredness you mean.
@@ScreamingEagleFTW Coping? 🤣
@@quadmsolutions4723 just being factual. probably the most self absorbed person Ive ever seen. All he talks about is himself.
And yet He can't grasp the simple act of Don't speak when someone else is speaking! Might as well take a nap when He talks because as soon as you're 2 words in He will cut you off like you're not even there. He does it All the time.
@@ScreamingEagleFTW for the most part all questions are about "himself" in one way or another amazingly enough. all the while self absorbed critics don't have some self centred all important emotional spiel to go with for effect.. maybe, i don't know.
Btw, the “homeless bum” that disrespected Alexander the Great is a man named Diogenes the Cynic. He was one of the greatest philosophers, because everything we know about him is from his observed actions and because he humiliated many other philosophers of his time.
One could argue, that Diogenes was the father of Cringe.
Oh yea, thanks for pointing that out I had forgotten.
@@madelynlilypaw5859 At first glance I thought what stupid thing to but on thinking about it; it is an excellent argument.
@@madelynlilypaw5859 father of cringe? Can you please further elaborated because I wanna see it the way you do?
@@notkingali1798 Don't worry about that, it's one man's opinion, not even accurate.
Mike really needs to do a series of history lectures. Would be epic
For real. Imagine if this guy was your college history or philosophy teacher
He gives speeches often.
I read he and Jordan peterson are doing a 21st century intellectuals tour. They are so smart.
Ohhh wow! What a great idea ❤
Can’t help but to LOVE this guy . What a journey he’s been through , always coming on top even stronger .
Everytime Mike says the word " conqueror" I have flashbacks of that infamous interview about Lennox Lewis.
“Lennox is a conqueror? No, he’s no Alexander!”
@@motivatedconor4352 I am sonney liston, I am jack dempsey i am from their cloth
Spinal
Hahaha 😂😂
😂😂
Forget street smarts. Mike Tyson is a street genius!
1:20 Mike Tyson is cultured ... (he is right)
Historical facts = Olympias, the mother of Alexander the Great.
But who was this woman who is said to have astonished the Macedonian king with her beauty ?
I will write based only on facts, that is, on the quotes of famous ancient authors, mainly Greek.
( For me there is one thing in history, which with the facts are not said ... )
According to Plutarch, Alexander was a descendant of Ajax through his father Neoptolemos and this is accepted without discussion.
According to Justin, Philip married Olympias, daughter of Neoptolemos, king of the Molosses.
All the authors thus agree on the fact that Alexander the Great was the grandson of a Molossian.
For those who do not know this tribe (the Molossians), who were they, what territory did they occupy and how were they considered by the ancient authors ?
Let us stop for a moment to know more about the tribe of the Molossians from which the mother of Alexander the Great came.
To make it simple, the tribe of Molossians is in Epirus somewhere in the region of Chamerie on the back of Thesprotians who dominated the coastal part.
In addition to this, the Kaons who were in the south of present-day Albania and who constituted three of the great tribes of Epirus.
Historically, tribes like the Molossians or others who composed Epirus like the Kaons, the Thesprotians, the Paraue, the Antintans and others, are historically linked to the Illyrian (🇦🇱) culture or to a part of it.
As Thucydides tells us about the events of the Peloponnesian War that involved both actually in reality Illyrians and Illyria itself, these tribes were commonly considered barbarian (non-Greek) tribes.
Thucydides: - "Among the barbarians there were about 1,000 Kaons who ruled without a king. Along with the Kaons, the Thesprotians also participated and were also ruled without a king. There were also the MOLOSSIANS, the Atintants and the Paraues.
( HISTORY OF THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR )
All these tribes, mentioned by the historian of Athenian origin Thucydides for their participation in the famous Peloponnesian war in the 5th century B.C., are considered as barbarians, therefore not Greek!
( Thucydides II, 80- IV, 126 )
The Kaons, the Thesprotians of Chamerie, the Arintans and the Parauets constitute the backbone of what one called Epirus.
Among them are of course the Molossians where are the roots of the family of the mother of Alexander the Great !
And Thucydides is not the only source which defines the Epirotes as non-Greeks.
There are many others!
According to the encyclopedia Basic Antiquity, composed of 86 volumes... Pauly Wissowa the Real "Encyclopedia Alterumswissenschaft" says that the Epirotes are of Illyrian origin 🇦🇱 and have strong links with the population of southern Italy!
More concise on the issue, the only Nobel Prize in history 🎓 is none other than Theodor Mommsen author of the cycle "Corpus of Antiquity inscriptions" which says that: - "the brave Epirotes, the Albanians 🇦🇱 of antiquity supported with traditional loyalty the young and brave Pyrrhus or "the Eagle" as they called him " .
Let us point out on this subject that the Albanians name themselves "Shqiptar", that is to say "sons or children of the eagle".
The soldiers of Pyrrhus (3rd century BC / Epirote King), called their King "the Eagle" and that the latter retroqued them one day that they were his "children", so the Albanians are the children of the Eagle ...
"Shqiptar = child of the Eagle .... " .
(Pyrrhus was the cousin of Alexander the Great, of the Molossian tribe and himself an ambitious conqueror, Pyrrhus is one of the most formidable adversaries of the early days of ancient Rome).
Lorenzo Braccesi (Professor of Greek History at the University of Venice, Italy, in 1986) tells us:
- "Olympias was originally from Epirus, on the part of the father who was king of Epirus, on the part of the mother also and that Illyrian blood 🇦🇱 circulated in the family, there is no doubt. "
( 9,01- 9,15 . The true story of Alexander the great ... - Gjurmë Shqiptare )
That the Epirotes are or are not Illyrians is a discussion that, from an archaeological point of view, is resolved.
The Epirotes and the Illyrians have the same culture, if we consider the Iron Age, the use of tombs, fortifications with several rows of walls, their material culture, the shape of the pots or the ornaments which are identical to those of Korça (current Albania) and religion.
Not only ancient authors like Thucydides, Strabo and others have called the Epirotic tribes barbarians (non-Greek) but also later serious publications based on documents and archaeological findings point out the same thing.
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and the sister .
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and sister of another well known Illyrian prince "Alexander the Molossus".
I believe that all or part of the strong character of Alexander comes exactly from his mother, from the house that also gave birth to Pyrrhus.
The powerful role of women in Illyrian society has been documented by many authors, including those who today identify themselves as Greeks, such as Athenaeus and Theompope.
Olympias' influence on her son Alexander was so great.
She believed that her son had divine blood and that he was born to rule the greatest kingdom of all time.
But the mother's family was not the only Illyrian family to which Alexander was affiliated, his link with the Illyrians was stronger than that!
Just a unique genius.
“Lennox (Lewis) is a conqueror? No. I’m Alexander. He’s no Alexander. I’m the best ever. There’s never been anybody as ruthless. I’m Sonny Liston. I’m Jack Dempsey. There’s no one like me. I’m from their cloth. There’s no one that can match me. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable. And I’m just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah.”
I love the fact that he studies history and all self-taught. I like listening to Mike Tyson he is actually very deep and reflects a lot on what he has learned. I wish i could sit in a room and discuss life and history with him. Total respect for this man.
Best message out here. Respect bro❤ respect tyson.
Diogenes the cynic. He was a homeless philosopher who lived in a tub on the street in Athens. Alexander heard the stories about him and decided to meet him one day while Diogenes was sunbathing. Alexander asked Diogenes if there was anything he could provide him with. This was the quote Tyson was talking about to which Diogenes replied, to step aside so that the rays of sun would not be blocked by Alexander. Point being, Diogenes was satisfied with the simple necessities of life and not the overindulgence of material items. Alexander was quoted as saying, "If I were not Alexander in this life, I would like to be Diogenes." And I think Tyson is correct it does seem that Alexander became an alcoholic. During a drunken rage, Alexander actually drove a spear through his own bodyguard, Cleitus the Black who literally saved his life in the first battle against the Persians at the Granicus river. There was a lot of tension amongst the old guard who served under Alexander's father, Cleitus being one of them. During this particular scene it appears Alexander was likely boasting about his greatness and accomplishments, locker room talk etc. and Cleitus called him out reminding Alexander that it was his Father who set Macedonia on its path to greatness. Everyone was obviously drunk and with free tongues, but this argument escalated and in a drunken rage Alexander ended up driving a spear through Cleitus who was equally angry. Alexander would instantly regret his action. Horrified at what he had done, he reportedly sobbed over his friend and ally for three days before bringing himself back together.
Yes u r correct;
Incredible story
@Jordan Sagar take a walk
My favorite Diogenes story is when he saw a kid drinking from the river with his hands. Diogenes had like 2 belongings, his home (which was literally just big pot) and a bowl he used to drink water and he immediately threw away his bowl and exclaimed "A child has beaten me in plainness of living."
Not Athens. Diogenes was in Corinth when he met Alexander.
It’s not the details he knows about these conquerors, it’s how he analysis, interprets and translates these little details.
There are cultures around the world that know very well that great conquerors were mama’s boys, it was amazing to hear mike say that.
True.. Very True
when they say that behind every Great Man there is a woman. so the woman is the mother not wife or lover
I mean he ultimately failed but also add Hitler to that list. When his mother died the doctor said that he had “never seen so much grief from one person” or words to that effect (He was Jewish as it happened and Hitler protected him). Hitler was very close to his mother.
That's why the man is so unique. He has such an insight that most people will never acquire.
And this concept and parallel is very similar to a lot of boxing champions: Louis, Joe Louis, Ali,Mayweather, Tyson, Holyfield,etc. All Mama's boys.
Been following this brother throughout his career and after, we are age mates, all his ups and downs.
I am so happy of the way he grew spiritually, humanly and intellectually. May Allah guide and protect him always.
Mike learned to ask God for forgiveness. YOU WONT GET THAT IN ISLAM!!!
islam teaches that christians and jews will be killed in the place of the muslim... Look it up!! And these same muslims say Jesus cant die for the sins of the world as God's Son. Get real man and investigate it
This is far and away the most interesting piece of dialog I have heard on any podcast in my entire life. Holy shit! 🙏🙏🙏
Mike Tyson will forever be an inspiration to me. Long live Tyson's legacy.
noone has been able to gight like him to this day, the man was so fast and powerful
fight
Long live Alexander’s legacy
Hahahahahaha😆😂
🇪🇺1982
Athens
🇬🇷🇬🇷🙏✝️
I like diogenes cynical
He rejected alexander
Most people cant be conquerors
Most people are cowards..employees
As i am
Unfortunately
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Tyson is a fascinating individual! The man's inner light shines through his words and behavior
My instinct is to say he's a good guy but that's not entirely true. He's a real guy. It's the same reason I like the Diaz brothers in MMA, and Ali in boxing as well. Ali of course had his character but beneath it was he real and as much with his fights as with his actions and words, he transcended the sport and became a civil rights icon, an anti war icon, an American icon.
A fascinating individual indeed, probably the best description of the man. Big Tyson fan, watching in amazement early on in his career and listening to him speak the man was a monster. For most with his attitude and financial status, they don't end well. It is humbling in my own life to see such a man, knowing where he came from, understanding why he was a monster on top of the world, evolved into such a humble intelligent man that got his true priorities in order. Great individual.
1:20 Mike Tyson is cultured ... (he is right)
Historical facts = Olympias, the mother of Alexander the Great.
But who was this woman who is said to have astonished the Macedonian king with her beauty ?
I will write based only on facts, that is, on the quotes of famous ancient authors, mainly Greek.
( For me there is one thing in history, which with the facts are not said ... )
According to Plutarch, Alexander was a descendant of Ajax through his father Neoptolemos and this is accepted without discussion.
According to Justin, Philip married Olympias, daughter of Neoptolemos, king of the Molosses.
All the authors thus agree on the fact that Alexander the Great was the grandson of a Molossian.
For those who do not know this tribe (the Molossians), who were they, what territory did they occupy and how were they considered by the ancient authors ?
Let us stop for a moment to know more about the tribe of the Molossians from which the mother of Alexander the Great came.
To make it simple, the tribe of Molossians is in Epirus somewhere in the region of Chamerie on the back of Thesprotians who dominated the coastal part.
In addition to this, the Kaons who were in the south of present-day Albania and who constituted three of the great tribes of Epirus.
Historically, tribes like the Molossians or others who composed Epirus like the Kaons, the Thesprotians, the Paraue, the Antintans and others, are historically linked to the Illyrian (🇦🇱) culture or to a part of it.
As Thucydides tells us about the events of the Peloponnesian War that involved both actually in reality Illyrians and Illyria itself, these tribes were commonly considered barbarian (non-Greek) tribes.
Thucydides: - "Among the barbarians there were about 1,000 Kaons who ruled without a king. Along with the Kaons, the Thesprotians also participated and were also ruled without a king. There were also the MOLOSSIANS, the Atintants and the Paraues.
( HISTORY OF THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR )
All these tribes, mentioned by the historian of Athenian origin Thucydides for their participation in the famous Peloponnesian war in the 5th century B.C., are considered as barbarians, therefore not Greek!
( Thucydides II, 80- IV, 126 )
The Kaons, the Thesprotians of Chamerie, the Arintans and the Parauets constitute the backbone of what one called Epirus.
Among them are of course the Molossians where are the roots of the family of the mother of Alexander the Great !
And Thucydides is not the only source which defines the Epirotes as non-Greeks.
There are many others!
According to the encyclopedia Basic Antiquity, composed of 86 volumes... Pauly Wissowa the Real "Encyclopedia Alterumswissenschaft" says that the Epirotes are of Illyrian origin 🇦🇱 and have strong links with the population of southern Italy!
More concise on the issue, the only Nobel Prize in history 🎓 is none other than Theodor Mommsen author of the cycle "Corpus of Antiquity inscriptions" which says that: - "the brave Epirotes, the Albanians 🇦🇱 of antiquity supported with traditional loyalty the young and brave Pyrrhus or "the Eagle" as they called him " .
Let us point out on this subject that the Albanians name themselves "Shqiptar", that is to say "sons or children of the eagle".
The soldiers of Pyrrhus (3rd century BC / Epirote King), called their King "the Eagle" and that the latter retroqued them one day that they were his "children", so the Albanians are the children of the Eagle ...
"Shqiptar = child of the Eagle .... " .
(Pyrrhus was the cousin of Alexander the Great, of the Molossian tribe and himself an ambitious conqueror, Pyrrhus is one of the most formidable adversaries of the early days of ancient Rome).
Lorenzo Braccesi (Professor of Greek History at the University of Venice, Italy, in 1986) tells us:
- "Olympias was originally from Epirus, on the part of the father who was king of Epirus, on the part of the mother also and that Illyrian blood 🇦🇱 circulated in the family, there is no doubt. "
( 9,01- 9,15 . The true story of Alexander the great ... - Gjurmë Shqiptare )
That the Epirotes are or are not Illyrians is a discussion that, from an archaeological point of view, is resolved.
The Epirotes and the Illyrians have the same culture, if we consider the Iron Age, the use of tombs, fortifications with several rows of walls, their material culture, the shape of the pots or the ornaments which are identical to those of Korça (current Albania) and religion.
Not only ancient authors like Thucydides, Strabo and others have called the Epirotic tribes barbarians (non-Greek) but also later serious publications based on documents and archaeological findings point out the same thing.
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and the sister .
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and sister of another well known Illyrian prince "Alexander the Molossus".
I believe that all or part of the strong character of Alexander comes exactly from his mother, from the house that also gave birth to Pyrrhus.
The powerful role of women in Illyrian society has been documented by many authors, including those who today identify themselves as Greeks, such as Athenaeus and Theompope.
Olympias' influence on her son Alexander was so great.
She believed that her son had divine blood and that he was born to rule the greatest kingdom of all time.
But the mother's family was not the only Illyrian family to which Alexander was affiliated, his link with the Illyrians was stronger than that!
By the way the Ancient Macedonians are Barbaros (= Not Greeks) BASICALLY. The Macedonian aristocracy just Hellenized (Adopted the Greek culture) their people (Macedonian), because the Hellenic culture was the most popular like the English of today.
Historical facts = Strabo (63 BC) tells us that Illyrians, Thracians, Bottians and Thesprotes shared the Macedonian territory (Tribes of Pelasgian origin 🇦🇱 ).
Source: (Strabo, VII, Frg .n°.11)
The Macedonians have just propagated the Hellenic culture and have adopted it little by little ...
The ancient authors called the Macedonians Barbaros/non-Greeks...
For example the great Thucydides...
Example : Thucydides 📜 (II, 80- IV, 126) who qualified of Barbaros (not Greek) the MACEDONIANS, Thesprotes, Molosses, Châones Atintanes, Paravaiens, Orestiens etc!
Moreover it is not the only one, far from there ....
Historical facts = The family of Philip II, father of Alexander the Great.
This last, according to the data, had a Macedonian father, but not his mother.
She was called Eurydice and came from the tribe of "Lyncestides".
Who was the grandmother on the side of the father of Alexander the Great?
The mother of Philip is the daughter of the daughter
Of Arrhabaeus, daughter of king Sirras, says Strabo.
Plutarch is very detailed on this subject.
He insists that although Eurydice is Illyrian (🇦🇱) and barbarian in every sense of the word, she was educated to help children.
He says very clearly that she is Illyrian, and barbaric in every way.
(Plutarch, De liberis educandis. p.69)
Lyncestides from where came the mother of Philip II, were a tribe which extended not far from the lake of Ohrid, somewhere in the area of Manastir where the ruins of one of their most important cities are today.
(Illyrian, no doubt. It is the last province that has a border with Macedonia)
As for whether it was an Illyrian tribe, this is clearly proven by ancient historians and geographers, including Titus Livy, Strabo, as well as Pliny who lists many in detail in the fourth book of the collection of 37 works entitled "Natural History", not to mention the great ancient geographer "Claudius Ptolemy" who also classifies the Lyncestrae among the Illyrian (🇦🇱) tribes .
And the later authors have the same attitude since on several occasions, they mention Eurydice, the mother of Philip II and the grandmother of Alexander, as being illyrian etc...
Here is what Demosthene says to us about Philip II of Macedonia (father of Alexander the Great):
- "And yet, as regards Philip and his conduct, they
do not feel that, although he is not Greek and that he is not related at all to the Greeks..."
Source : (The Third Philippic)
By Demosthenes (384-322 BC)
I love hearing this man's perspective on anything he's willing to talk about.
curiosity, introspection, and humility are enough for me to respect his quest.
“Greatest was the willing to die; it’s what they did for greatness. Achilles as an example”
Amen*
*Khalid bin walid
1:20 Mike Tyson is cultured ... (he is right)
Historical facts = Olympias, the mother of Alexander the Great.
But who was this woman who is said to have astonished the Macedonian king with her beauty ?
I will write based only on facts, that is, on the quotes of famous ancient authors, mainly Greek.
( For me there is one thing in history, which with the facts are not said ... )
According to Plutarch, Alexander was a descendant of Ajax through his father Neoptolemos and this is accepted without discussion.
According to Justin, Philip married Olympias, daughter of Neoptolemos, king of the Molosses.
All the authors thus agree on the fact that Alexander the Great was the grandson of a Molossian.
For those who do not know this tribe (the Molossians), who were they, what territory did they occupy and how were they considered by the ancient authors ?
Let us stop for a moment to know more about the tribe of the Molossians from which the mother of Alexander the Great came.
To make it simple, the tribe of Molossians is in Epirus somewhere in the region of Chamerie on the back of Thesprotians who dominated the coastal part.
In addition to this, the Kaons who were in the south of present-day Albania and who constituted three of the great tribes of Epirus.
Historically, tribes like the Molossians or others who composed Epirus like the Kaons, the Thesprotians, the Paraue, the Antintans and others, are historically linked to the Illyrian (🇦🇱) culture or to a part of it.
As Thucydides tells us about the events of the Peloponnesian War that involved both actually in reality Illyrians and Illyria itself, these tribes were commonly considered barbarian (non-Greek) tribes.
Thucydides: - "Among the barbarians there were about 1,000 Kaons who ruled without a king. Along with the Kaons, the Thesprotians also participated and were also ruled without a king. There were also the MOLOSSIANS, the Atintants and the Paraues.
( HISTORY OF THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR )
All these tribes, mentioned by the historian of Athenian origin Thucydides for their participation in the famous Peloponnesian war in the 5th century B.C., are considered as barbarians, therefore not Greek!
( Thucydides II, 80- IV, 126 )
The Kaons, the Thesprotians of Chamerie, the Arintans and the Parauets constitute the backbone of what one called Epirus.
Among them are of course the Molossians where are the roots of the family of the mother of Alexander the Great !
And Thucydides is not the only source which defines the Epirotes as non-Greeks.
There are many others!
According to the encyclopedia Basic Antiquity, composed of 86 volumes... Pauly Wissowa the Real "Encyclopedia Alterumswissenschaft" says that the Epirotes are of Illyrian origin 🇦🇱 and have strong links with the population of southern Italy!
More concise on the issue, the only Nobel Prize in history 🎓 is none other than Theodor Mommsen author of the cycle "Corpus of Antiquity inscriptions" which says that: - "the brave Epirotes, the Albanians 🇦🇱 of antiquity supported with traditional loyalty the young and brave Pyrrhus or "the Eagle" as they called him " .
Let us point out on this subject that the Albanians name themselves "Shqiptar", that is to say "sons or children of the eagle".
The soldiers of Pyrrhus (3rd century BC / Epirote King), called their King "the Eagle" and that the latter retroqued them one day that they were his "children", so the Albanians are the children of the Eagle ...
"Shqiptar = child of the Eagle .... " .
(Pyrrhus was the cousin of Alexander the Great, of the Molossian tribe and himself an ambitious conqueror, Pyrrhus is one of the most formidable adversaries of the early days of ancient Rome).
Lorenzo Braccesi (Professor of Greek History at the University of Venice, Italy, in 1986) tells us:
- "Olympias was originally from Epirus, on the part of the father who was king of Epirus, on the part of the mother also and that Illyrian blood 🇦🇱 circulated in the family, there is no doubt. "
( 9,01- 9,15 . The true story of Alexander the great ... - Gjurmë Shqiptare )
That the Epirotes are or are not Illyrians is a discussion that, from an archaeological point of view, is resolved.
The Epirotes and the Illyrians have the same culture, if we consider the Iron Age, the use of tombs, fortifications with several rows of walls, their material culture, the shape of the pots or the ornaments which are identical to those of Korça (current Albania) and religion.
Not only ancient authors like Thucydides, Strabo and others have called the Epirotic tribes barbarians (non-Greek) but also later serious publications based on documents and archaeological findings point out the same thing.
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and the sister .
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and sister of another well known Illyrian prince "Alexander the Molossus".
I believe that all or part of the strong character of Alexander comes exactly from his mother, from the house that also gave birth to Pyrrhus.
The powerful role of women in Illyrian society has been documented by many authors, including those who today identify themselves as Greeks, such as Athenaeus and Theompope.
Olympias' influence on her son Alexander was so great.
She believed that her son had divine blood and that he was born to rule the greatest kingdom of all time.
But the mother's family was not the only Illyrian family to which Alexander was affiliated, his link with the Illyrians was stronger than that!
By the way the Ancient Macedonians are Barbaros (= Not Greeks) BASICALLY. The Macedonian aristocracy just Hellenized (Adopted the Greek culture) their people (Macedonian), because the Hellenic culture was the most popular like the English of today.
Historical facts = Strabo (63 BC) tells us that Illyrians, Thracians, Bottians and Thesprotes shared the Macedonian territory (Tribes of Pelasgian origin 🇦🇱 ).
Source: (Strabo, VII, Frg .n°.11)
The Macedonians have just propagated the Hellenic culture and have adopted it little by little ...
The ancient authors called the Macedonians Barbaros/non-Greeks...
For example the great Thucydides...
Example : Thucydides 📜 (II, 80- IV, 126) who qualified of Barbaros (not Greek) the MACEDONIANS, Thesprotes, Molosses, Châones Atintanes, Paravaiens, Orestiens etc!
Moreover it is not the only one, far from there ....
Historical facts = The family of Philip II, father of Alexander the Great.
This last, according to the data, had a Macedonian father, but not his mother.
She was called Eurydice and came from the tribe of "Lyncestides".
Who was the grandmother on the side of the father of Alexander the Great?
The mother of Philip is the daughter of the daughter
Of Arrhabaeus, daughter of king Sirras, says Strabo.
Plutarch is very detailed on this subject.
He insists that although Eurydice is Illyrian (🇦🇱) and barbarian in every sense of the word, she was educated to help children.
He says very clearly that she is Illyrian, and barbaric in every way.
(Plutarch, De liberis educandis. p.69)
Lyncestides from where came the mother of Philip II, were a tribe which extended not far from the lake of Ohrid, somewhere in the area of Manastir where the ruins of one of their most important cities are today.
(Illyrian, no doubt. It is the last province that has a border with Macedonia)
As for whether it was an Illyrian tribe, this is clearly proven by ancient historians and geographers, including Titus Livy, Strabo, as well as Pliny who lists many in detail in the fourth book of the collection of 37 works entitled "Natural History", not to mention the great ancient geographer "Claudius Ptolemy" who also classifies the Lyncestrae among the Illyrian (🇦🇱) tribes .
And the later authors have the same attitude since on several occasions, they mention Eurydice, the mother of Philip II and the grandmother of Alexander, as being illyrian etc...
Here is what Demosthene says to us about Philip II of Macedonia (father of Alexander the Great):
- "And yet, as regards Philip and his conduct, they
do not feel that, although he is not Greek and that he is not related at all to the Greeks..."
Source : (The Third Philippic)
By Demosthenes (384-322 BC)
Mike is captivating with telling history, in a way he lived among them.
dunnno about that but he is captivating
1:20 Mike Tyson is cultured ... (he is right)
Historical facts = Olympias, the mother of Alexander the Great.
But who was this woman who is said to have astonished the Macedonian king with her beauty ?
I will write based only on facts, that is, on the quotes of famous ancient authors, mainly Greek.
( For me there is one thing in history, which with the facts are not said ... )
According to Plutarch, Alexander was a descendant of Ajax through his father Neoptolemos and this is accepted without discussion.
According to Justin, Philip married Olympias, daughter of Neoptolemos, king of the Molosses.
All the authors thus agree on the fact that Alexander the Great was the grandson of a Molossian.
For those who do not know this tribe (the Molossians), who were they, what territory did they occupy and how were they considered by the ancient authors ?
Let us stop for a moment to know more about the tribe of the Molossians from which the mother of Alexander the Great came.
To make it simple, the tribe of Molossians is in Epirus somewhere in the region of Chamerie on the back of Thesprotians who dominated the coastal part.
In addition to this, the Kaons who were in the south of present-day Albania and who constituted three of the great tribes of Epirus.
Historically, tribes like the Molossians or others who composed Epirus like the Kaons, the Thesprotians, the Paraue, the Antintans and others, are historically linked to the Illyrian (🇦🇱) culture or to a part of it.
As Thucydides tells us about the events of the Peloponnesian War that involved both actually in reality Illyrians and Illyria itself, these tribes were commonly considered barbarian (non-Greek) tribes.
Thucydides: - "Among the barbarians there were about 1,000 Kaons who ruled without a king. Along with the Kaons, the Thesprotians also participated and were also ruled without a king. There were also the MOLOSSIANS, the Atintants and the Paraues.
( HISTORY OF THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR )
All these tribes, mentioned by the historian of Athenian origin Thucydides for their participation in the famous Peloponnesian war in the 5th century B.C., are considered as barbarians, therefore not Greek!
( Thucydides II, 80- IV, 126 )
The Kaons, the Thesprotians of Chamerie, the Arintans and the Parauets constitute the backbone of what one called Epirus.
Among them are of course the Molossians where are the roots of the family of the mother of Alexander the Great !
And Thucydides is not the only source which defines the Epirotes as non-Greeks.
There are many others!
According to the encyclopedia Basic Antiquity, composed of 86 volumes... Pauly Wissowa the Real "Encyclopedia Alterumswissenschaft" says that the Epirotes are of Illyrian origin 🇦🇱 and have strong links with the population of southern Italy!
More concise on the issue, the only Nobel Prize in history 🎓 is none other than Theodor Mommsen author of the cycle "Corpus of Antiquity inscriptions" which says that: - "the brave Epirotes, the Albanians 🇦🇱 of antiquity supported with traditional loyalty the young and brave Pyrrhus or "the Eagle" as they called him " .
Let us point out on this subject that the Albanians name themselves "Shqiptar", that is to say "sons or children of the eagle".
The soldiers of Pyrrhus (3rd century BC / Epirote King), called their King "the Eagle" and that the latter retroqued them one day that they were his "children", so the Albanians are the children of the Eagle ...
"Shqiptar = child of the Eagle .... " .
(Pyrrhus was the cousin of Alexander the Great, of the Molossian tribe and himself an ambitious conqueror, Pyrrhus is one of the most formidable adversaries of the early days of ancient Rome).
Lorenzo Braccesi (Professor of Greek History at the University of Venice, Italy, in 1986) tells us:
- "Olympias was originally from Epirus, on the part of the father who was king of Epirus, on the part of the mother also and that Illyrian blood 🇦🇱 circulated in the family, there is no doubt. "
( 9,01- 9,15 . The true story of Alexander the great ... - Gjurmë Shqiptare )
That the Epirotes are or are not Illyrians is a discussion that, from an archaeological point of view, is resolved.
The Epirotes and the Illyrians have the same culture, if we consider the Iron Age, the use of tombs, fortifications with several rows of walls, their material culture, the shape of the pots or the ornaments which are identical to those of Korça (current Albania) and religion.
Not only ancient authors like Thucydides, Strabo and others have called the Epirotic tribes barbarians (non-Greek) but also later serious publications based on documents and archaeological findings point out the same thing.
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and the sister .
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and sister of another well known Illyrian prince "Alexander the Molossus".
I believe that all or part of the strong character of Alexander comes exactly from his mother, from the house that also gave birth to Pyrrhus.
The powerful role of women in Illyrian society has been documented by many authors, including those who today identify themselves as Greeks, such as Athenaeus and Theompope.
Olympias' influence on her son Alexander was so great.
She believed that her son had divine blood and that he was born to rule the greatest kingdom of all time.
But the mother's family was not the only Illyrian family to which Alexander was affiliated, his link with the Illyrians was stronger than that!
By the way the Ancient Macedonians are Barbaros (= Not Greeks) BASICALLY. The Macedonian aristocracy just Hellenized (Adopted the Greek culture) their people (Macedonian), because the Hellenic culture was the most popular like the English of today.
Historical facts = Strabo (63 BC) tells us that Illyrians, Thracians, Bottians and Thesprotes shared the Macedonian territory (Tribes of Pelasgian origin 🇦🇱 ).
Source: (Strabo, VII, Frg .n°.11)
The Macedonians have just propagated the Hellenic culture and have adopted it little by little ...
The ancient authors called the Macedonians Barbaros/non-Greeks...
For example the great Thucydides...
Example : Thucydides 📜 (II, 80- IV, 126) who qualified of Barbaros (not Greek) the MACEDONIANS, Thesprotes, Molosses, Châones Atintanes, Paravaiens, Orestiens etc!
Moreover it is not the only one, far from there ....
Historical facts = The family of Philip II, father of Alexander the Great.
This last, according to the data, had a Macedonian father, but not his mother.
She was called Eurydice and came from the tribe of "Lyncestides".
Who was the grandmother on the side of the father of Alexander the Great?
The mother of Philip is the daughter of the daughter
Of Arrhabaeus, daughter of king Sirras, says Strabo.
Plutarch is very detailed on this subject.
He insists that although Eurydice is Illyrian (🇦🇱) and barbarian in every sense of the word, she was educated to help children.
He says very clearly that she is Illyrian, and barbaric in every way.
(Plutarch, De liberis educandis. p.69)
Lyncestides from where came the mother of Philip II, were a tribe which extended not far from the lake of Ohrid, somewhere in the area of Manastir where the ruins of one of their most important cities are today.
(Illyrian, no doubt. It is the last province that has a border with Macedonia)
As for whether it was an Illyrian tribe, this is clearly proven by ancient historians and geographers, including Titus Livy, Strabo, as well as Pliny who lists many in detail in the fourth book of the collection of 37 works entitled "Natural History", not to mention the great ancient geographer "Claudius Ptolemy" who also classifies the Lyncestrae among the Illyrian (🇦🇱) tribes .
And the later authors have the same attitude since on several occasions, they mention Eurydice, the mother of Philip II and the grandmother of Alexander, as being illyrian etc...
Here is what Demosthene says to us about Philip II of Macedonia (father of Alexander the Great):
- "And yet, as regards Philip and his conduct, they
do not feel that, although he is not Greek and that he is not related at all to the Greeks..."
Source : (The Third Philippic)
By Demosthenes (384-322 BC)
Mike Tyson has to be the most unpretensious JRE interview-he thinks all answers through before giving them and sounds grounded as hell....dude is a total icon.
Don't judge a book by its cover.
YUP
Huge amount of respect for Mike!
His outlook and way of translating what he reads is truely amazing and it makes 100% sense what he’s saying!
He really is a modern day conqueror!
Right 🤔 everything connected and made sense, he’s a great communicator
Mike is a lot smarter than people realize... it really comes out a lot when he talks about other people and philosophy... my favorite boxer of all time
"All of them ask God for forgiveness!"
Rogan quiet.
His aithest mind cant comprehend
@@guillermovazquez1084 😂😂exactly which is weird that a atheist is basically %100 sure there’s no higher power which is dumb
@@Cjizzle-zh2xy Bruh he does believe in a higher power 🤦♂️
@@armaliteslungsentinal7352 wasn’t talking to you my fellow citizen💯talking to someone else that was thinking same way, as a follower of Jesus if your not following the lord your basically an atheist, but have a good day
Mike clarified though, the conquerors once declared themselves as god but in the end asked God for forgiveness. They couldn't forgive themselves. They had remorse for their actions and couldn't conquer themselves, Mike is intelligent!!!
Mike never ceases to surprise me. I watch his fights, think about Cuss using hypnosis to prep him for conquering his opponents, but at the end of the day he cites conquering his own demons as his main accomplishment. His full circle wisdom is a thing to consider.
The intelligence of this man is astounding to me. I was a kid in his prime. I was one of the millions of 8th graders boxing in the backfield after school because they wanted to be like the other Mike. Now as a grown man. With different goal and different ideas than my youth, he is yet again someone I wanna be like. Love u champ
The greatest of all time mike Tyson, Love and respect from Afg 🇦🇫
6losses not greatest not even in top 10
They've got internet in Afghanistan ?
For me as a fan of boxing he is the greatest nd it’s true u better Search in google, best of luck
Yes dude, afg was one of the most powerful country in the world befor USA nd another country Interfere in our country, Because of Natural resources that our country had USA brought civil war in our country in order to get all of those. Although we Suffering in a bad condition nowadays but we (Afghan) are still will never give up🇦🇫👊🏿
Even Tyson Mentioned in this video that Afghanistan Was great 👑👊🏿
Anthony Joshua recently said after defeating Francis Ngannou "my life doesn't really change after winning, it's just onto the next, your life only changes when you lose". At some point winning doesn't fulfil a conquerer, because they realise they're only doing it to conquer themselves.
Tyson has contributed far more for humanity outside of the ring with his philosophy and his own inner journey than he ever could have achieved inside the ring.
Quite literally the definition of you can’t judge a book by it’s cover.
Bollocks
Free Masonic. Puppet. Shill
@A K
A pithy rebuttal 🤣
@@philmckenna5709 ohh, a cunninglinguist ! 😆
Bullshit
Tysons journey has been monumental. The guy has lived many lives.
🙏🏾✌🏽
Mr Tyson is so much smarter than anyone thinks!
I feel he has found the meaning of life!
Godspeed my friend!
Diogenes’The Dog’ was the person that Alexander the Great offered riches. Mike is really underrated as a Philosopher of Modern day. Good talk Mike👍🏻✌🏻
We gotta start calling him "Iron Monk" now lol
1:20 Mike Tyson is cultured ... (he is right)
Historical facts = Olympias, the mother of Alexander the Great.
But who was this woman who is said to have astonished the Macedonian king with her beauty ?
I will write based only on facts, that is, on the quotes of famous ancient authors, mainly Greek.
( For me there is one thing in history, which with the facts are not said ... )
According to Plutarch, Alexander was a descendant of Ajax through his father Neoptolemos and this is accepted without discussion.
According to Justin, Philip married Olympias, daughter of Neoptolemos, king of the Molosses.
All the authors thus agree on the fact that Alexander the Great was the grandson of a Molossian.
For those who do not know this tribe (the Molossians), who were they, what territory did they occupy and how were they considered by the ancient authors ?
Let us stop for a moment to know more about the tribe of the Molossians from which the mother of Alexander the Great came.
To make it simple, the tribe of Molossians is in Epirus somewhere in the region of Chamerie on the back of Thesprotians who dominated the coastal part.
In addition to this, the Kaons who were in the south of present-day Albania and who constituted three of the great tribes of Epirus.
Historically, tribes like the Molossians or others who composed Epirus like the Kaons, the Thesprotians, the Paraue, the Antintans and others, are historically linked to the Illyrian (🇦🇱) culture or to a part of it.
As Thucydides tells us about the events of the Peloponnesian War that involved both actually in reality Illyrians and Illyria itself, these tribes were commonly considered barbarian (non-Greek) tribes.
Thucydides: - "Among the barbarians there were about 1,000 Kaons who ruled without a king. Along with the Kaons, the Thesprotians also participated and were also ruled without a king. There were also the MOLOSSIANS, the Atintants and the Paraues.
( HISTORY OF THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR )
All these tribes, mentioned by the historian of Athenian origin Thucydides for their participation in the famous Peloponnesian war in the 5th century B.C., are considered as barbarians, therefore not Greek!
( Thucydides II, 80- IV, 126 )
The Kaons, the Thesprotians of Chamerie, the Arintans and the Parauets constitute the backbone of what one called Epirus.
Among them are of course the Molossians where are the roots of the family of the mother of Alexander the Great !
And Thucydides is not the only source which defines the Epirotes as non-Greeks.
There are many others!
According to the encyclopedia Basic Antiquity, composed of 86 volumes... Pauly Wissowa the Real "Encyclopedia Alterumswissenschaft" says that the Epirotes are of Illyrian origin 🇦🇱 and have strong links with the population of southern Italy!
More concise on the issue, the only Nobel Prize in history 🎓 is none other than Theodor Mommsen author of the cycle "Corpus of Antiquity inscriptions" which says that: - "the brave Epirotes, the Albanians 🇦🇱 of antiquity supported with traditional loyalty the young and brave Pyrrhus or "the Eagle" as they called him " .
Let us point out on this subject that the Albanians name themselves "Shqiptar", that is to say "sons or children of the eagle".
The soldiers of Pyrrhus (3rd century BC / Epirote King), called their King "the Eagle" and that the latter retroqued them one day that they were his "children", so the Albanians are the children of the Eagle ...
"Shqiptar = child of the Eagle .... " .
(Pyrrhus was the cousin of Alexander the Great, of the Molossian tribe and himself an ambitious conqueror, Pyrrhus is one of the most formidable adversaries of the early days of ancient Rome).
Lorenzo Braccesi (Professor of Greek History at the University of Venice, Italy, in 1986) tells us:
- "Olympias was originally from Epirus, on the part of the father who was king of Epirus, on the part of the mother also and that Illyrian blood 🇦🇱 circulated in the family, there is no doubt. "
( 9,01- 9,15 . The true story of Alexander the great ... - Gjurmë Shqiptare )
That the Epirotes are or are not Illyrians is a discussion that, from an archaeological point of view, is resolved.
The Epirotes and the Illyrians have the same culture, if we consider the Iron Age, the use of tombs, fortifications with several rows of walls, their material culture, the shape of the pots or the ornaments which are identical to those of Korça (current Albania) and religion.
Not only ancient authors like Thucydides, Strabo and others have called the Epirotic tribes barbarians (non-Greek) but also later serious publications based on documents and archaeological findings point out the same thing.
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and the sister .
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and sister of another well known Illyrian prince "Alexander the Molossus".
I believe that all or part of the strong character of Alexander comes exactly from his mother, from the house that also gave birth to Pyrrhus.
The powerful role of women in Illyrian society has been documented by many authors, including those who today identify themselves as Greeks, such as Athenaeus and Theompope.
Olympias' influence on her son Alexander was so great.
She believed that her son had divine blood and that he was born to rule the greatest kingdom of all time.
But the mother's family was not the only Illyrian family to which Alexander was affiliated, his link with the Illyrians was stronger than that!
By the way the Ancient Macedonians are Barbaros (= Not Greeks) BASICALLY. The Macedonian aristocracy just Hellenized (Adopted the Greek culture) their people (Macedonian), because the Hellenic culture was the most popular like the English of today.
Historical facts = Strabo (63 BC) tells us that Illyrians, Thracians, Bottians and Thesprotes shared the Macedonian territory (Tribes of Pelasgian origin 🇦🇱 ).
Source: (Strabo, VII, Frg .n°.11)
The Macedonians have just propagated the Hellenic culture and have adopted it little by little ...
The ancient authors called the Macedonians Barbaros/non-Greeks...
For example the great Thucydides...
Example : Thucydides 📜 (II, 80- IV, 126) who qualified of Barbaros (not Greek) the MACEDONIANS, Thesprotes, Molosses, Châones Atintanes, Paravaiens, Orestiens etc!
Moreover it is not the only one, far from there ....
Historical facts = The family of Philip II, father of Alexander the Great.
This last, according to the data, had a Macedonian father, but not his mother.
She was called Eurydice and came from the tribe of "Lyncestides".
Who was the grandmother on the side of the father of Alexander the Great?
The mother of Philip is the daughter of the daughter
Of Arrhabaeus, daughter of king Sirras, says Strabo.
Plutarch is very detailed on this subject.
He insists that although Eurydice is Illyrian (🇦🇱) and barbarian in every sense of the word, she was educated to help children.
He says very clearly that she is Illyrian, and barbaric in every way.
(Plutarch, De liberis educandis. p.69)
Lyncestides from where came the mother of Philip II, were a tribe which extended not far from the lake of Ohrid, somewhere in the area of Manastir where the ruins of one of their most important cities are today.
(Illyrian, no doubt. It is the last province that has a border with Macedonia)
As for whether it was an Illyrian tribe, this is clearly proven by ancient historians and geographers, including Titus Livy, Strabo, as well as Pliny who lists many in detail in the fourth book of the collection of 37 works entitled "Natural History", not to mention the great ancient geographer "Claudius Ptolemy" who also classifies the Lyncestrae among the Illyrian (🇦🇱) tribes .
And the later authors have the same attitude since on several occasions, they mention Eurydice, the mother of Philip II and the grandmother of Alexander, as being illyrian etc...
Here is what Demosthene says to us about Philip II of Macedonia (father of Alexander the Great):
- "And yet, as regards Philip and his conduct, they
do not feel that, although he is not Greek and that he is not related at all to the Greeks..."
Source : (The Third Philippic)
By Demosthenes (384-322 BC)
Diogenes the cynical you meant to say. Not The dog bro.
Not too many people have been through the highs and lows that Mike has been through.
@Mike Rotch ya but the thing is this man can walk into any bank and get a loan for 10 mil just cause his name is Mike Tyson. Just his name is worth that.
I dont think anyone had the highs and lows like mike
Everyone got their own problems, his happened to happen at a time where planetary communication started booming 🤷🏾♂️
And yet survive and keep being an amazing person
And he’s black in America.
Dam.
Wow, Mike Tyson is a thinker for sure, pleasure to listen to him talk
Best Tyson interview I’ve seen
Wow cold shivers hearing Tyson say that greatness is the willingness to die.
Wow. The GOAT never ceases to amaze me
He’s a very inspiring man, much like the conquerors he studies. Strong and wise.
Wow! Never liked Tyson because of his hubris as a fighter. But I’m so impressed with him now as a human being who has struggled and transformed himself and now offers real insight and wisdom to the world. Wish we had the full recording
Ok...Let me check you right there.1 For one thing, he grew up rough af. Despite growing up the way he did when he started boxing in his teens you'd notice when he knocked people out, there were a few times he tried to help them up after they were counted out. Humble af because despite all the violence he was accustomed to, he clearly wanted to give a shit more but giving a shit before boxing got you in bad situations. All he did was praise people and other boxers. Then something happened that happens to everyone in life but some have it happen at the worst possible moment. Someone who helped that him understand being humble died. D'Amato his trainer. He was a huge influence on Mike. Hes still winning but without that force for good mike needed. He was stil in his teens. Money comes in, which he never had, drugs, everyone did cocaine in the 80s, start hanging around with the wrong people who just want to use you, say only positive things about you and your still a 19 year old kid knocking grown men tf out, cocaine waiting on you in the dressing room with women in the limo. He hecame arrogant, prideful, angrier while listening to people who didnt give one f*** about him and most people start believing you cant be f***ed with if your constantly told that. Got knocked out by a basic no name in what should and would have been just another fight had he been kept on the right path. Then the 90s turned into what they did. Go watch interviews of him in the 80s, as a kid. Still immature as we all are but clearly didn't want to hurt anyone nor be arrogant because he was none of those things. Shit went sideways, and it was easy for him to fall back into the life he had before boxing. Can't imagine to the degree I would have f***ed up at some point being a millionaire watched by millions at 19 years old with people lying to me so they can use me on drugs everyday. The Mike Tyson in this interview is the Mike Tyson the teenager with 100 years of wisdom condensed becausehes experienced the highest peak and the lowest valley and everywhere in between...He's a good dude of that I have no question and I don't think that about most famous, rich, in the spotlight people the world over.
Tyson has come along way in life. It's fascinating to see him at different time periods of his life.
You know it's important when Mike says "Listen!" :D
Great insights, lotta substance to the discussion. Makes me think, like a gym for my mind. I'm grateful 🙏🏻
Mike Tyson is on point regarding the mindset of the conquerors and the importance of conquering oneself instead of the exterior world which only result on pain and suffering to others while the conqueror just feeds his ego only to realize the error of his ways and ask for forgiveness at the end after realizing the error of his ways 🙏🏻
Mike talked about Diogenes, he called him Eugenius in the podcast. Sans lisp, he is an extremely well read guy with an interesting insight into the mechanics of human interaction.
I feel like diogenes looking for an honest man in America
@@maximusdecimusmeridius5500 I don't think you would fare better in any other land. Whole planets like that.
@@bluebird3281 wrong there are many you just don't know any.
@@maximusdecimusmeridius5500 Just not in America, ok. Sounds fair and well reasoned
@@bluebird3281 america is the most corrupt, degenerate, morally bankrupt country in the world, only a matter of time till the fall of Rome happens again
There was always a misconception that Mike wasn’t very bright. Amazing to me how knowledgeable he is.
And there are still comments arguing that he is not bright, people can't accept that someone so aggressive is indeed intelligent, I wonder why
A great fighter is absolutely a thinker.
Mike is such a wise man i could listen to mike forever
Cool stuff! I love how Mike is such a student of history
This man is fascinating, someone to be studied in depth for sure!
Study yourself and life will not only be fascinating, it will be amazing
You do not find God out there, something in the sky, you look in you.
Mike is much much deeper than most people. It's beautiful to hear his take on these historical events. I really value the man!
I feel like I’m listening to Jung depth psychology Mike is very insightful
The man has a passion for history, respect!
Wow, I did not expect this level of insight from Tyson at all, but it seems obvious now that a legendary fighter would have such a fascinating mind
Mike Tyson interviews have been amongst my all time favourites, he has accumulated wisdom .
Such a powerful interview really unleashed Tysons intellectual potential. I hope people can now see another side to Mike. Full respect to the interviewer and interviewee.
He didn't unleash anything. Can't you read that the man said he's been all this research and reading on his own since he was 15?!!!
@@frank-ko6de there's so many people who literally view Mike as If he's a gorilla. Like it's surprising to them that he's a man who can like sit down and read from time to time
Lotta white people showing their colors
@@tomatoesofdoom They're essentially talking about themselves. They're too mediocre to even chew gum and walk at the same time because they're so mediocre and physically weak. We've always been the ones who are are multidimensional and creative while those of a certain complexion have been just predictable and ponderous. So, when they act surprised, believe them because they could never pull off what Tyson does let alone be competent.👍👍👍👍
The crazy thing is as a young man i was so taken with mike because of fighting and later in life im so fascinated by his brain and just his human experience
Joe is such a good person to chat with cuz he asks the right questions to trigger that recall, gettin to the crux. Mike is real af ans still pleasant. Tempered men. Respect.
This is a beautiful conversation.
Powerful speech and wisdom from old Tyson. He is a G and always will be.
“Greatness is wellness to die” powerful.🙏🏿
Tis Irish Bob saying hello Mike
Loads of respect to this man who had some rough life moments. Unique observations and perspectives on things.
Wishing Mike well in life.
Irish Bob is a fan.
😇🤗😎🍀☘️🇮🇪🇨🇵🦾🩺🥂
Two of my favorite people walking on this planet in the same room. This was an awesome interview.
I haven't heard a Conversion from the internet this calm, real, genuine ,and intellectual in a *LONG* time. 👍🏾
Just like Mike wanted to know about the conquerors - I had the burning desire to know about Mike the man himself . Ever since 20 yrs. I ve read his books, his life, his approach to boxing, life ,cus,..Because i ALWAYS knew there is so much more depth to the man - than what meets the eye. It is only proved stronger every day. Mike is humanity itself.
"Mike is humanity itself"
rage, hate and ferocious anger
yet so sensitive, loving, understanding and soft.
theres truth in your words brother
Alexander also said to the man Diogenes, basically “if I weren’t me, I’d want to be you.” D replied, “if I were you, I’d want to be Diogenes also.”
I love how passionate Mike talks about this topic. He seems really into it it.
Wow. What an interesting interview. I could listen to Mike discuss conquerors of the past all day.
I’ve always loved Mike Tyson even more know I can listen to him talk forever
Great interview Joe! Mike,thanks.
Mike Tyson’s character development insane. truly a great inspiration
The mom thing is interesting. This was back in a time when a woman's value was mainly upon her marriage/kids. With the husbands dead, these women (especially ambition rich ones) would push their sons to do absolutely insane stuff. Can see this over and over.
true in deed...he was dead right...even Shaka Zulu the great had a special bond with his mom he did insane things in the name of his mother...she was his driving force in a way.
Iy s because men will always pay respect to their mom. Cause they were the one caring for them while their was never there. Some of big conquerors beat their wives and multiple women, but never their mom. They would prefer kill their dad instead of beating their mom
Boys are never close to their dads cause you up on them, growing up you wanna get better than your father even without knowing that, every son has spoke to his mother way more than his father not because he loves her more or because your mother is ambitious. dads love daughters moms love sons. girls rival moms, boys rival dads without even knowing. its like a wolf pack. boys will always try to prove themselves to their dads by doing anything, but only actualy listen to their moms.
1:20 Mike Tyson is cultured ... (he is right)
Historical facts = Olympias, the mother of Alexander the Great.
But who was this woman who is said to have astonished the Macedonian king with her beauty ?
I will write based only on facts, that is, on the quotes of famous ancient authors, mainly Greek.
( For me there is one thing in history, which with the facts are not said ... )
According to Plutarch, Alexander was a descendant of Ajax through his father Neoptolemos and this is accepted without discussion.
According to Justin, Philip married Olympias, daughter of Neoptolemos, king of the Molosses.
All the authors thus agree on the fact that Alexander the Great was the grandson of a Molossian.
For those who do not know this tribe (the Molossians), who were they, what territory did they occupy and how were they considered by the ancient authors ?
Let us stop for a moment to know more about the tribe of the Molossians from which the mother of Alexander the Great came.
To make it simple, the tribe of Molossians is in Epirus somewhere in the region of Chamerie on the back of Thesprotians who dominated the coastal part.
In addition to this, the Kaons who were in the south of present-day Albania and who constituted three of the great tribes of Epirus.
Historically, tribes like the Molossians or others who composed Epirus like the Kaons, the Thesprotians, the Paraue, the Antintans and others, are historically linked to the Illyrian (🇦🇱) culture or to a part of it.
As Thucydides tells us about the events of the Peloponnesian War that involved both actually in reality Illyrians and Illyria itself, these tribes were commonly considered barbarian (non-Greek) tribes.
Thucydides: - "Among the barbarians there were about 1,000 Kaons who ruled without a king. Along with the Kaons, the Thesprotians also participated and were also ruled without a king. There were also the MOLOSSIANS, the Atintants and the Paraues.
( HISTORY OF THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR )
All these tribes, mentioned by the historian of Athenian origin Thucydides for their participation in the famous Peloponnesian war in the 5th century B.C., are considered as barbarians, therefore not Greek!
( Thucydides II, 80- IV, 126 )
The Kaons, the Thesprotians of Chamerie, the Arintans and the Parauets constitute the backbone of what one called Epirus.
Among them are of course the Molossians where are the roots of the family of the mother of Alexander the Great !
And Thucydides is not the only source which defines the Epirotes as non-Greeks.
There are many others!
According to the encyclopedia Basic Antiquity, composed of 86 volumes... Pauly Wissowa the Real "Encyclopedia Alterumswissenschaft" says that the Epirotes are of Illyrian origin 🇦🇱 and have strong links with the population of southern Italy!
More concise on the issue, the only Nobel Prize in history 🎓 is none other than Theodor Mommsen author of the cycle "Corpus of Antiquity inscriptions" which says that: - "the brave Epirotes, the Albanians 🇦🇱 of antiquity supported with traditional loyalty the young and brave Pyrrhus or "the Eagle" as they called him " .
Let us point out on this subject that the Albanians name themselves "Shqiptar", that is to say "sons or children of the eagle".
The soldiers of Pyrrhus (3rd century BC / Epirote King), called their King "the Eagle" and that the latter retroqued them one day that they were his "children", so the Albanians are the children of the Eagle ...
"Shqiptar = child of the Eagle .... " .
(Pyrrhus was the cousin of Alexander the Great, of the Molossian tribe and himself an ambitious conqueror, Pyrrhus is one of the most formidable adversaries of the early days of ancient Rome).
Lorenzo Braccesi (Professor of Greek History at the University of Venice, Italy, in 1986) tells us:
- "Olympias was originally from Epirus, on the part of the father who was king of Epirus, on the part of the mother also and that Illyrian blood 🇦🇱 circulated in the family, there is no doubt. "
( 9,01- 9,15 . The true story of Alexander the great ... - Gjurmë Shqiptare )
That the Epirotes are or are not Illyrians is a discussion that, from an archaeological point of view, is resolved.
The Epirotes and the Illyrians have the same culture, if we consider the Iron Age, the use of tombs, fortifications with several rows of walls, their material culture, the shape of the pots or the ornaments which are identical to those of Korça (current Albania) and religion.
Not only ancient authors like Thucydides, Strabo and others have called the Epirotic tribes barbarians (non-Greek) but also later serious publications based on documents and archaeological findings point out the same thing.
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and the sister .
The Molosses, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus from where came the mother of Alexander the Great Olympias daughter of the king and sister of another well known Illyrian prince "Alexander the Molossus".
I believe that all or part of the strong character of Alexander comes exactly from his mother, from the house that also gave birth to Pyrrhus.
The powerful role of women in Illyrian society has been documented by many authors, including those who today identify themselves as Greeks, such as Athenaeus and Theompope.
Olympias' influence on her son Alexander was so great.
She believed that her son had divine blood and that he was born to rule the greatest kingdom of all time.
But the mother's family was not the only Illyrian family to which Alexander was affiliated, his link with the Illyrians was stronger than that!
By the way the Ancient Macedonians are Barbaros (= Not Greeks) BASICALLY. The Macedonian aristocracy just Hellenized (Adopted the Greek culture) their people (Macedonian), because the Hellenic culture was the most popular like the English of today.
Historical facts = Strabo (63 BC) tells us that Illyrians, Thracians, Bottians and Thesprotes shared the Macedonian territory (Tribes of Pelasgian origin 🇦🇱 ).
Source: (Strabo, VII, Frg .n°.11)
The Macedonians have just propagated the Hellenic culture and have adopted it little by little ...
The ancient authors called the Macedonians Barbaros/non-Greeks...
For example the great Thucydides...
Example : Thucydides 📜 (II, 80- IV, 126) who qualified of Barbaros (not Greek) the MACEDONIANS, Thesprotes, Molosses, Châones Atintanes, Paravaiens, Orestiens etc!
Moreover it is not the only one, far from there ....
intellectuals and regular folk can be as arrogant as world-class boxers in their prime, but all of us, as Mike shows, can go beyond the confines of our Ego, and be humbled by the Real.. full respect for Tyson
They conquered the world, those around them, and they instilled fear in millions. But they never conquered themselves. I think about that quote, out of 100 men in a war, 10 don’t belong, 80 are targets. 9 are fighters, and they make the battle. But one is a warrior. Mike is that one warrior. And Cus saw it before anyone ever thought about it. Mike to this day is in awe at the fact that Cus say something Mike didn’t know he had. You’re the greatest Mike. I love you.
I recently saw an interview with Dan Hardy, a former MMA fighter and former UFC analyst and he was talking about Nate Diaz and Jorge Masvidal; "in Many ways those two are tribal leaders, they have a certain mindset and personality about them that makes people identify with them. They're real and authentic.
They're the kinda guys you would follow into battle"
I see a lot of that in Tyson.
Wow that’s remarkable
Diaz yes, Tyson yea, masvidal nahhh
@@nbanba7531 you’re tripping. Masvidal even bested Diaz give the man some credit. Masvidal puts himself into the fire, can you say that about yourself?
Bro masvidal is such a flop flipper and opportunist he is nothing like the Diaz bros
@@nbanba7531
If he worried about what some random hater online thinks he wouldn't be worth half the money he's earned.
The man continues to enlighten me...unlike the foolish people who have tried to knock him down. They always paint him as a fool, but have no idea themselves.
This man is far more than a legendary boxer - he is also an inspiration to achieve success .
Mike has always been a conscious person. In my experience, when your young and developing you may be aware of your true self and sometimes you can become lost before you realize it and act outside of your character. But those experiences make you a stronger person.
As a Thessalonikan Macedonian from Detroit I'm overwhelmed with joy to here Mike has an affinity for our history
Mike Tyson is on another level. Look where he came from and where he is now. The most captivating man in modern history without a doubt.
Mike wanted to be like Alexander, and in a boxing sense, he succeeded.
Indestructible force who blitzed his way to glory, destroyed the competition and reigned undisputed for a brief time.
Mike Tyson's ability to continuously reinvent himself is fascinating.
Self Awareness will do that
You can hear Mike breathing heavy and being super-passionate about this subject. Nothing like looking back and learning from history. Respect. 💯
It's amazing that people can form sounds together (words) and use those sounds at precise times and places to conquer the entire world.
That really is a crazy thought haha.
Mike got all y'all finally realizing what made me luv him so much back in the day when he was in his prime 💯 It was written all over his ora since he first got into the pro boxing ring!!!!! He's been showed all of this to all of us back then in the late 80's!!!!!
Michael Tyson is an overcomer and conquerer. He is truly gifted and was born with an ancient noble soul.
I understand how he's feeling having studied myself.. I love listening to Tyson when he's on these subjects.
I love Mike Tyson. Such a honest man who acknowledges his faults. A great, but humble man!
I greatly admire Mr.Tyson for appreciating the importance of history.
Tyson has become such a deep person. It’s amazing.