Gris-Gris Math for Nerds
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- Опубликовано: 26 май 2024
- Witch Doctor's new Innate Ability gives him an item called Gris-Gris. It's a cool item that generates you money, but how long should you hold on to it? I've got some nerd math to help you determine the ideal timing.
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"let me know if you agris gris or disagris gris"
this is why I am subbed
😂😂
Same lol that shit was funny asf
This was hilarious 😂
I know. Adorable.
A-gris-grised ^^
Save it for shard right at 15 mins was my idea of how it would be best used. I'm glad you agreegree
I agree-gree, btw just realized you can move it from neutral slot to inventory xd
No wayy. I was spending the damn thing at first spawn of tier1 neutral item
yeah I told my wd this in a game yesterday but he just refused to move it and pretended like it didn't work out of spite :) (I'm always respectful it was just a rough game)
Yeah not sure if it's worded the best. "Can only be transferred between Witch Doctors inventory and neutral slot. Can not be placed in the backpack, stash, courier, another players inventory or on the ground." under the expanded tool tip would be best.
If you’re dying way too many times then you’re just grief-griefing
Play wd.
Take heal damage talent
Man up to enemy
Died
Tp back do the same again
Refuse to elaborate
Somehow got agh
can you do same for warlock grimoire?
+1 plsssss grimoire next 🙏
When ur behind in lane and need a quick lvl 6. Or..when you're ahead but the enemy seems to catch up.
I forgot to mention that using it between lvl 9 and 10 is really good if you're far ahead the exp boost is great but any later than that you may not even gain a level because the exp to lvl up is too big.
+1 🙏
I was thinking exactly the same
Plsss I need thiss
Thats why i have trust issues. He clearly says, i cant do anything with it other than "Consume Item" yet it clearly says there, that indeed i could also "Lock Combining"
Better do that, you don't want it to accidentally combine into a Rapier
You're pathetic dude...
combine it with midas to turn creeps into more gris-gris's.
As Sir Action Slacks said, its a very good item for Griefers and Feeders
DotA 2 is the most exciting Moba , especially when they dropped Big Patch. Other people hates it just because they can't cope about their loses
That and/or cause they are unable to read.
It’s like they forget that it’s a game just for fun we’re not all pros haha
@@nevsforest or just lazy and hate "learning anything new"
And how you call it when my idiot support takes a philostone instead of a neutral item..?
they can read- but not think..?
i m really not against my supports and i want them to have items… but when i see one more int hero with 1000hp, 2 armor and 1200 mana at minute 20 i'll lose my hope in humanity
@@Biit88121 then play support and be that guy. then you will complain about a retarded carry who keeps dying for no reason because he has no map awareness
It's all about hitting the grissy
I just used this video tips and played some WD matches and it went wild. In most WD games I was able to consume the Gris Gris for a 15 min shard along with shadow amulet. Which is a nasty timing for WD. I also uploaded one of my WD videos in my channel following your suggestions. I should have mentioned you directly but I forgot. I will keep that in mind if I do another video with your suggestions. Thank you!
DO NOT REDEEM!!!!
my assumption was "hold on to it until you need the inventory/neutral slot" and i appreciate you doing the math for why that is. as for facets, Cleft Death did not function how i thought it was going to, i still think it's neat though, but yeah Headhunter is just too nice early in the game to give up
If you swap heros in the beginning of the match with someone else, you can "transfer" the Gri-gri. Is it a bug, we don't know yet or maybe it was intended. As far as a Witch doctor goes. Id definitely save it for a Aghs no doubt, this is what I have been doing and it works great.
Voodoo Festoration on lane with a Necrophos is oppressive.
This is SO VALUABLE. If all content producers did something like that for the heroes they know/play best, it would make navigating the new patch so much easier.
Not sure if you’re answering questions on here, but I’ve a question this video reminded me of, especially since you mention buying shards in many other videos:
I’m slightly annoyed when I have to pay for my shard as support. Shards are free if you take the Tormentor. With supps usually being the lowest levels, at least one support can get a free shard from just one Tormentor, and obviously in theory you can keep doing that until your whole team has free shards. For a support player, that’s massive. 1,400 gold I can spend on something else - that’s nearly a Guardian Greaves recipe (or 28 sentries 😂). My point is, saving supports that gold benefits the whole team, but we need our cores to take on the Tormentor. Is it reasonable to expect cores to gather at each earliest opportunity and get the Tormentors? If so, what time would usually be good to start (appreciate it depends on hero selection and how the game is going, but just a general estimation). And finally, are there heroes whose shard is so game changing that waiting for the team to be able to defeat the Tormentor means losing out too much and you’re better off buying it before regardless?
(Disclaimer I’m a baby gamer and still in Herald, so I appreciate this will all just by theoretical if my team isn’t on the same page on this issue.)
Wait to pop Gris-Gris until T 2 items… get lucky and get Philosophers stone. Seems good to me lol.
From these I can assume that no matter what you assumption of these item is, you just need to know one thing for you consume it keep it. If your inventory space is occupied with essential item at all time you get it of it. If the game play style require you to man up and save your carry save it.
Technically, it's free money regardless. It only becomes trouble when you are six slotted. As an innate ability, it's average, could use some buffs (maybe 30GPM, Death cost + 20 + 1 gold per minute), but it's literally free money for a pos 5 / 4. It only gets in the way when you have to buy a dust or a quelling blade for sprout or monkey dance.
i mean
look at enchantress / meepo
Nice! I love straight info. +1
I played festeration doc as hard carry for fun. rushed radiance and bloodstone, had a wisp sup5 with spell amp by my side. it was pretty funny and we actually owned the lane and won the game pretty fast. farming speeds are absurd btw
Gris-Gris to the moon!!!
er 2 comes around i consume and hopefully get the philosopher's stone
Next vid could be when the best time for warlocks black book
I have 63% winrate on this hero and I hadn't even considered putting it in my regular inventory so I could use tier 1 neutral items XD. Also I think the talent changes to WD are a nerf because the aoe and cask bounce talents were the best by a lot and now you can only pick one unless the game goes super late.
Does Gris-Gris provide full gpm benefit while not in the neutral item slot?
Yep
Now do grimoire math
Hitting the grizzy
I have a thesis that strategies that rely on your death (Warlock/Undying talent, Gris gris) shouldn't be your plan A. There are games in which those are important, but if you're surviving you usually have more impact than those talents
Agreed,I was pretty disappointed in WD's passive for that reason, I don't want dying to be needed to get the most out of it. The resulting amount of money is not much considering others passives aiding in getting kills and surviving will earn them more money as a side effect
Is it better than philosopher stone?
so how do u find the gris gris again if u use it
it gets consumed, i think
I use it on 27 mins when the tier 3 neutral item shows.
Hi ZQ where do u check winrate by facet?
its updated on dota 2 pro tracker
@@inversionist5928 thanks!
Both dotabuff and protracker
may i ask what is the name of your HUD? it looks cool :D
When i have my agha and my team is uncooperative to make tormentor, then, if my gris gris has 1.4k i use it to get a shard.
Agreegree or disagreegree got me :)
would it be smart to just perma feed to the enemies and give them killing sprees? pls do the math
Nah, a death is still time off the map, and it's still XP and gold for the enemy team. Perma-feeding still leaves you significantly behind, unless you're trading your death for a kill for your core on every one of those deaths.
@@bhikshu738you're also not losing gold at that point so you're getting any gold out of it anyway
@@colossaladvertising No, you're not getting gold, you're just *not losing* gold.
You're still missing out on gold that could be gained (personally) from assists and kills, your absence from teamfights increases the likelihood that your team can't secure kills, or will even give up deaths, you can't rotate to punish dives, etc. Feeding is still punished because you can't contribute to anything on the map while you're dead, and remember: The enemy still gets gold and XP for killing YOU, so feeding puts them ahead of your team.
Gris Gris.
TL;DR, if you can get a threshold item that will impact a fight soon.
essentially its a much worse version of the Alch facet which gives 250 gold immidiately.
zQ hit me in the gris-gris when he posts a video 😊
the game is literally a college degree at this point
Gris = Pig in swedish, nice item
It would be a shame if the letter patch messed with this math!
❤🔥
Agris gris to disagris gris
Not getting a value point in voodoo restoration for insane trading is a crime.
Why is your Dota Guide ingame so bad rated? it makes really sense!
my brain is not braining... help
17 min. Because Alchemist's stone exists
gris gris gang
Lol it's you
@@pcxxy its me
I knew it xdd
If you play wd and you don't have the gold for the shard by the time shard is available then you don't know how to play wd :S
I can see a way where i itemize arcane glimmer shard and mby 1 more item and i keep the gri gri till min 30 np, i disagree (i think you overestimate the windlace in your build) .... on the other hand i don't play WD, so... you do you.
PLEASE PRONOUCE IT AS GRIZ-GRIZ!!!!!
It's a grigri, some african voodoo amulet.
I hate 10 minute youtube videos. I get it's for monetization but I still hate it. Ai summarizer said "The best time to consume the GRE gree for Witch Doctor is between 10-20 minutes. Slot efficiency and the value of other items make it less valuable later on."
Where can I use this AI summarizer? Is it free?
@@nahrafff I use Opera browser and I found Cici Ai, I don't research it enough tho so be mindful of using it
What is the point in cris cris when you can cask 2 camps with hunter what makes it absolete?
the point is that its free.
Its not a facet, you dont have to choose between it and headhunter. you just get it as an inate ability
@@kcbsuiejd sorry, my bad
@@koumbova no worries, asking is a good thing :)
Seems like it felt right when I first played was this patch and used my Grigri to afford my glimmer faster
yay more dota2 crota
Has anyone been pronouncing it “griss griss” like me? 🥴
i did a little bit of math 🤓☝
Lmao 😂 it's funny because he's 100% the 2 emotes!
i agris gris
bro either make it a 2 min video or get lost ... like im gonna hear a 10 min for an innate ability of a single hero from 120
The third facet sucks ass
please stop encouraging pos 4/5 taking spells to farm faster ure supposed to help ur cores not farm
why is every english speaking person sayin GRI GRI!?
its has a fking S!! at the end!!! its no that hard!!
griS griS
Seems like actual garbage
That's a long video to say "totally irrelevant and wasted (opportunity to make a cool) ability that could be useful only in one weird TI match"
Good clickbait.
Haters😂