I remember reading in a tech magazine in the early 2000s about a technology that would enable you to just add a few drops of alcohol to charge your phone. It was only a few years away they said…
It actually "only" runs 96W on 100-120V AC. This is the fine print on Xiaomi's site: *Maximum output power will be 120W with 220~240V input; Maximum output power will be 96W with 100~120V input. Maximum output power may not be 120W based on different voltage input in some regions." So charging in 20 min instead of 15 makes sense.
That's why they get the european power brick. That 15 minutes advertising is mostly for Europe market because here we have 240V from the wall (I'm from Poland btw)
For the record, Samsung and or Android 12 has a battery health option to max charge to 85%, so that type of fast charge protection is already available.
Can confirm Samsung already has that, rocking a Galaxy Tab S6 Lite (announced in 2020) at max charge 85%, I won't remember I turned that on in a couple years, but my battery will be a-ok
I believe there was also some talk of these chargers not working as fast on 110v as they do on 220v, which might be why they didn't send you an NA charger, because they don't exist.
Chargers work slightly more efficiently on 220V so small charger may "thermal-throttle" on 110V but this is chonky and they did not mention it getting hot so I doubt that is the case here. At 110v it would pull something above 1A which is totally reasonable.
@@piotrdaniel5029 Well, time to improve basic knowledge because you cannot just pull as much Amps as you desire into small brick and since Power = Volts*Current you might not be able to just draw 2 times more current to make up for lower voltage, especially since simples equation for heat in related to electricy depends on current SQUARED, so 4 times more heat on same line with same output power.
Honestly, I would get this phone just because of the features it has, from a headphone jack, microSD, and actually decent speakers. These were the benchmarks for phones a couple of years past, and now we ignore that. If this thing had a customer-friendly replaceable battery, I would've just thrown my money at them.
and an other OS as well would be great, less shity app installed from the get go and some other things like this and yeah, id definitly go back to xiaomi
Thease batteries are cheap bro, i've got a 4 year xiaomi phone the Note 5 and i recently bought a second one for $10 on china and paid more $10 on a random tech assist to replace it.
as far as I understand it only charges 120w if you request it to but usually it defaults to a lower wattage anyways. also technically there are two cells in the phone which means that they are only charged at 60w each anyways which is not too vad
The chemistry does not care if you have one big cell or multiple small cells. It does not matter if they are in series or parallel. What is interesting is the ratio between charging current and capacity. If you have two cells it means half the capacity each and thus the ratio stays constant. There is no way around it. It might help to reduce the heat concentration but that is all. 120W into such a small battery, 6,35C in this case, is brutal. It will damage the battery, that is unavoidable. So if you can charge it slower. Its a nice feature to use once a while.
@@nukularpictures You got really confused there. Each battery charges at 60W. That's it. Combine 60W+60W that's your 120W advertised. Each cell never is charged at 120W. Also you seem to have no knowledge on batteries there. There is no permanent damage to the battery, it doesn't even warm up. and all the heavy lifting is done somewhere else (i.e. the power brick itself). The technology has gone real far in the last 5 years and phones with 60W charging have comparable longevity to those with conventional charging.
The number of cells does not matter, waht matters is so called C-rate aka total capacity in Ah (Amphours) divided by charge rate in Amps. Luckily C-rate is easy to convert to time, since with C-rate of 1 your charging takes 1 hour, with C-rate of 2 it takes 30 minutes, C-rate of 0.5 takes 2 hours and so on. The problem is that going above C-rate of 0.5 (
The key feature for me that barely gets mentioned that is so important to me is a flat screen!! Curved screens are the worst I hate accidentally registering touches on the edges when watching videos
Yeah, I got a used OnePlus 7 pro and despite loving everything else, almost sold it shortly after because of that stupid curved screen, I don't normally like cases, but I tried one and that has fixed my issue with it.
I regret going back to a flat screen, due to the screen to bezel ratio, a slightly curved screen is still better imo, and you still won't get false touches if your OS is good.
I've got a pixel 6 pro and I'm having the opposite problem (among others, I mean). When I try to press screen buttons near the edges, it takes several tries to even get it to register.
@@flandrble Curved edges are bullshit. Flat displays all the way. Most people hate curved screens. If curved screens were really that good then why do the displays curve only on the sides and not the top and bottom.
Great seeing Linus appreciate features like the headphone jack and microSD card slot! Phone companies will make these compelling devices and then keep taking away one features at an iteration and call those upgrades. Recently, this is what happened to Samsung Galaxy A50 series with the launch of A53...
tbh I was hugely anti BT headset myself, but honestly the technology is at a point where wireless headphones last practically forever and sound just as good at the same price as equal wired versions, there is just no downside at all anymore. If I was really in a pinch, you still have USB-C to 3.5mm adapter.
@@doddezx I use mine for 3-4 hrs a day, headphones themselves last about 10 hours on 1 charge, case charges them fully 5x at least. I think i have to charge it somewhere in the region of once every 2 weeks for less than 30 mins lmao, "practically forever" to me...
@@whyarewehere3893 The guy is probably clueless. I used a Iphone XS Max from release which was sep 2018 until the s22 ultra released feb 25 of this year. my battery capacity is 82 percent. I charged it to 100 when i slept and basically ran it until 10 percent daily. point is the phone will long be outdated by the time you need to worry about battery health.
@@Fluffypotato1990 Also I think they're getting smarter as far as building in safeguards so you don't overcharge or mess up the battery. But yeah 82% after nearly 4 years is darn good.
0:50 Apple's all like : We don't need to sell you the power brick Xiaomi's like : We're gonna sell you the powerbrick. And Oh! There's might be a phone inside the box
the best part of it is, that with the same charger, but a different UBS cable, you can make it stop using 120W, bcoz the USB cable has a chip taht tells the charger what power it can take.
Yep, and it's funny people say how fast charging is gonna degrade battery faster, yeah in reality it is actually wireless charging and heat that degrades battery much faster.
Haha I came to comment the same thing. It might be Linus’ bottle. For cleanliness, hydro flask is excellent as you can put it in the dishwasher. Almost no other vacuum sealed water bottle does that. It is twice the price of most vacuum water bottles though 😅
I'd like to see the channel do a deep dive into how their doing the charging tech without risking damage to the battery because the way they're splitting between different cells of the battery is really neat.
Watched it 5 times now, he did in fact grab the blow tinted one. Linus picks up and shows us the box that the cream(blue) phone came out of. You can see if put the black phones box to the right and the cream box to the left.
I genuinly still miss the AUX and the fact that it has a IR blaster too, thats fucking awesome. My old Galaxy S6 with the IR blaster was literally a dream.
Yeah it is such a convenient feature. You forget where remotes are and you don't care about searching them under the couch pillows or anything. You can always just use your phone. Also great fun when messing with the devices in other places, lol. But Apple and Samsung etc are now all about removing features instead of giving more, and the sheep still pay up.
Woah finally a short circuit with a Xiaomi phone that doesn't discredit the phone from the start. And to think Riley just said that 'charging brick is too big' when holding the same 120W charger.
I saw a video recently where someone proved that fast charging isn't inherently going to damage your battery, regardless of the speed. The issue is heat, which can be mitigated with a phatt charging brick.
A larger charging brick isn't going to cool your phones battery. I have a big aluminum bracket on my desk that I place my phone on when it is fast charge to pull away some of the heat.
A charger simply being larger does absolutely nothing for how hot a phone gets, that's not how it works. That only applies to the warpcharge 30T charger with compatible OnePlus phones, which MKBHD says is because they've integrated some of the battery management hardware into the charger so there's less power management happening in the phone itself. So that won't work with any other phone that isn't "T charging certified". It's all dependant on how the manufacturer has designed the phone and it's specific charger to work with it. Still a pretty cool concept though and I'm a fan of anything that improves battery life.
I've been researching about this phone among others. And somewhere they mentioned that by default the max rate out of the box is 100w in order to extend battery life. But if necessary, you can switch it to 120w from the control panel. Maybe that's the reason for the "slower than expected" charging times. Greetings.
this is just an amazing phone in general. The cost seems very resonable for all the good you are getting without having to deal with mainstream phone brand bs.
I'm using Xiami 11t pro. It has same charger. What i noticed. Charge speed decreases when I use phone while charging. Phone is able to self manage its temperatures to keep battery safe, and decreases charge vatage for that. So it may take from 20 to 25-28min for full charge.
My little sister has the lower model of this (Note 11), which has 55W charging, which is amazing. It also has an IR emitter which is great as the AC remote at our new home is broken, but the Mi Note 11 has a built in app supporting over 100 brands of all sorts of appliances. For the little over $200 it cost even though there is no contract, it is great.
Considering 80% is the optimal I'd say the 15 minutes is spot on. Also a phone with SD + headphone jack + IR? This might replace my P30 pro when it fails :o Sure the camera looks a bit worse but that's something I could probably live with.
That IR blaster is crazy attractive for me. I REALLY miss fucking with people's TVs lol, or being able to save the day when they couldn't find their remote
I have actually already been looking into buying one of these, because of the fast charging. It is exactly as Linus said: I travel a lot and i sometimes need to charge my phone real quick. Also it has good value.
@@imvention5696 No, only the china ROM have ads. I've used 3 xiaomi phones with global roms and have never seen ads. There are some in their apps but you can turn all of them off in 10 minutes guaranteed
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket I like to think everyone is aware that China is run by human rights abusing monsters. Which Phone/PC are you using, that is not made in China? There is a lot of that going around these days, and I'd like to see you do business without China. What's that about my profile picture?
I'm using my Mix 4 with 120w charging for a year now. There isnt any noticable batterie degeneration. I think mainly because you will automaticly switch from charging ervery night to only charging if needed.
By moving most of the regulation and power circutry from the phone to the charger, it is going to move a majority of the heat away from the phone thus prolonging the life of the battery. Couple that with ultra low internal battery resistance with higher current handleing cell technologies and it may provide similar if not reduced cell degradation since the battery is charged faster and has less time to heat up and stay hot during the charging process. The biggest thing that would help prolong the useable life of the battery in almost any phone is to have the phone default to a long life mode out of the box that charges to 80% but reports 100% to the user and goes into low power reserve mode with a user reminder to charge at 20%. Then let the user decide if they want to have longer battery life or more battery capacity available. The other thing that would prolong the phone is to make it easy for an end user to replace the battery when it does finally drop into that 70-75% area of original capacity since below that area is when cell failure rates tend to increase. A good consumer cellphone should have a useable life of 5-6 years minimum and 10 years or more on the high end, professional, commercial and industrial side of things. Their is no good reason for the overwhelming majority of cellphone users to replace a phone more often than this since the cellular technology does not change all that often. 4G hasn't even been fully deployed in many areas and it will likely be a decade or more before 5G is available nearly everywhere in North America. Every cellphone company should be held to a minimum performance spec to even call something a smartphone at the time of sale and they should provide users the most efficient and stripped down versions of whatever OS is running on the phone so that they stay snappy longer preventing the need for useless upgrades. I think back to the not so distant past where feature phones were what most people had and they could go through 10-15 years of updates without really getting any slower. Granted they ran less crap on the whole but that is what current cellphones should be emulating, being as efficient as possible with the hardware that the phone has.
I live in mainland China and use a Korean LG G5 phone. I love the removable battery. This Xiaomi looks dope though I never game, I only just check short messages. I have 4G and going downtown 2hrs on the subway, line S8 has no signal, and line 3 has signal. And I see Chinese folks all staring at their phones, so they have signal. What are they using, fucking 5G? I just read a paperback. The most annoying thing is if your battery runs out or you have no signal, entering the subway they request the health code - no smartphone, can't use taxis or subways, you'll have to walk 50km home, if you can find the way without your Tencent Maps. Entering your home, the gated community guards bark to show your pcr test and health code on your smartphone, if your battery is dead, tough luck going home to sleep. I don't get it, 2011 smartphones are about empowering the individual, it's about having fun, chatting to college girls, traveling around the country using maps and translator to navigate and speak Chinese. And now we're all slaves to machines, so what's the point of dropping money on a phone like this, if it's only to serve the superiors? Also aren't Korean phones the best, why is everyone using Chinese phones? WTF, I gave a Chinese phone a chance in 2013 and the UI is total crap, so I vowed to never buy Chinese phones in my life.
@@hufficag Some of this are more issues of living where you live and government using technology to enslave you, not an issue of the smartphone itself. I for one to not have this were I live. As about Chinese phones. Well i go with phones like this from Xiaomi because I like having SD card and ir blaster etc and in general I am fine. I don't have any big issues that make the phone nightmare to use. I guess the biggest thing that works badly is the automatic orientation that seems to be quirky and oversensitive.
@@SIPEROTH I think the biggest issue is always not enough space, apps shut down due to consuming all the space. And then you try to enter somewhere, sorry can't show you my health code, phone is out of space. And battery life is another big issue, like by early afternoon the phone is almost dead. They should bring back removable batteries like we have in laptops where I carry spares in my backpack. First year in China was so much fun, travel, adventure, with a smartphone that allows me to navigate this alien landscape, and a backpocket with full batteries. But now it's no more relationships, no more businesses that make money, no more freedom etc.
@@SIPEROTH That "enslavement" is one of the reasons why China has done one of the best jobs in handling the pandemic, and why "freedom-rich" countries like the USA have had so much more people falling sick and dying.
7:15 owning 11Tpro, the phone didnt even want to charge with 120W for few weeks, until it 'learned' the battery profile, the full speed of charging can not be achieved out of the box, all new phones do that. Also, to fully use the fulle charging speed, things like WiFi, GPS and so on have to be disabled and the phone has to be on battery saver. the more you know.
Okay, headphone jack and expandable storage is actually insanely awesome. As Linus said, I have no idea either why it is that the budget phones come with both these in 2022 phones but flagships dropped them years ago..
@@pixels_per_inch My gripe with Xperias is the laughable software support and the ridiculous price. I wouldn't dare to look at the Xperia 1, but the 5 is still too damn expensive for what it offers. Xperia 10 IV should have at least a 120Hz dispaly and a much better SoC for it's asking price. Anyway, I've been using Samsung phones a long time, and it's sad that Xiaomi is now what Samsung used to be. No more headphone jack, no more sd card, no more charger in the box... I really miss those extra features, and the IR blaster comes in handy too, when my phone had it I used it quite a lot, since it makes your phone a portable remote for almost everything.
I've been using my Xiaomi 10 Ultra since 2020 November, I've always used the 120w charger, and battery health is still at 97%. If you don't charge overnight, and keep the battery between 10% and 90%, you will be fine with the 120w charger.
Well the issue with fast charging is the heat it causes, which is awful for batteries. If you’re going to fast charge, just try not to use it at the same time, and you’ll probably be fine.
@@logan62097 well that's the point if it Chargers from 20 to 80 in 10min who needs to use thier phone while charging it is annoying and fast charging negates it just be patient for a short 10min
@@logan62097 They are perfectly fine, and not overheating during the fast charge (even 120W). I'm using Mi 10 Ultra and Mi 11 Ultra and the only thing that is hot is the charger.
Yes it has to be on to hypercharge. It has to negotiate with the software to be sure it's allowed to take the gloves off. Otherwise, if it just tried to pump that power in to anything you plugged in to it, someone is going to literally blow up their phone by borrowing your charger without your permission.
the thing is most implementations of USB quickcharge already have this implementation built-in and perform handshaking passively. Look to USB-C charged laptops, for example.
@@TheEpicLinkFreeman think of the available space in a laptop to put the hardware for that handshake. Now think of a phone size device. See there is not much space to put it in. Software is good enough.
@@Bulanesti Very ignorant comment, reminiscent of people who justified the removal of the headphone jack with "they needed to remove it to get waterproofing and add features" while similar android phones matched or exceeded its feature set while retaining a headphone jack. The most likely reason for them not including hardware to do this is that they couldn't find an OEM USB controller that was rated at what they wanted, so they went with a different solution that allows them to tell the charger over software, in exchange for a lower default charging rate.
@@TheEpicLinkFreeman Well this ignorant me that is absolutely crippling dumb has not justified anything like removing the headphone jack. While I am completely agreeing that it would be nice to have HW based pairing between the phone and the charger for the ultra charge stuff perhaps you are lacking in some basic information on what is required for that. If you are so inclined to throw shade how about you use your brain and compare a 1000$ phone with a 400$ one and see where most of the cost usually is. Hint: it's the CPU, cameras, ram, storage in that order. Now a 1000$ has in the budget to have extra silicone dedicated in the CPU to have the fast charging while phone is OFF(one of the space saving options, there are others). And that's great but the cost to develop that extra custom part on the CPU is not cheap and definitely not worth for a cheap phone's cpu. So then the cheap phone manufacturer would have to dedicate some space on the motherboard or a daughterboard where other a lot more important components are. The extra space for the extra resistors and maybe even an extra charge chip would take place of other stuff. Yes technically you could fit it, but then all the extra cost and all the extra R&D is not worth for the 400$ phone. So then my ignorant friend what is the subject we are actually talking about? Is it the removal of a feature? OR The feature is there it just isn't as fancy as you would want because you are a spoiled person that doesn't know to appreciate the difference between engineering effort that can be fitted in 1000$ or 400$. And cherry on top of all that the phone in question has amazing speakers, has a headphone jack, has expandable storage, and an IR blaster, things I cannot say most 600$+ phones have. So yes maybe they did run out of space or funds or both to make the phone.
@@Bulanesti it isn't a matter of figuring out how to cram it in. The internal space used is negligible. Ignorant: lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated. The phone already has a charge controller in it. It protects you from shorting pins, shitty chargers, and regulates power input to protect the battery. They cannot leave this out, it would be unsafe. It's literally a matter of sourcing the right part. Not a matter of integrating it, or researching how to add a charge controller to your phone. They already have them.
I got the same charger with my 11T Pro and it's very good, you forget about your charging habits you simply charge it for a little bit when you need to. I just hate how little recognition this is getting
thanks! i still rock s8+ and have no desire to upgrade but he batt is killing me needing 2-3 chrgs a day of heavy use. looking the 11Tpro or mi11 ultra
Battery testing and especially the effect of (quick) charging, power management features or recommend habits to prolong battery life would be a great research project for Linus Tech Labs. Batteries in general are just really interesting right now not only are they crucial to many gadgets and other devices but development is insane right now due to the demand EV's are putting on the industry.
Yes. I'd love to see a more in-depth analysis on the impact of fast-charging on battery health in the long run. Not many people seem very interested in the subject yet.
Here we are in October 2022 and the phone with a 67 Watt European charger is available including door to door delivery through Mercado Libre in Colombia for 1,259.900 pesos or the equivalent of 272 Bucks. Because of the exchange rate this is a super great deal.
Instead of relying on adapters, take a european/international power strip and change the plug. You guys always run into this issues yet you have a workshop that does all sorts of things all of which are infinitely more complex than this simple exercise.
You do know that the power input is different though, right? 120V/60Hz vs 240V/50Hz? Anything with a motor would be destroyed. In the case of a charger for a switching power supply it's okay but it's better to use a travel charger because it forces you to remember think about what you're plugging in.
@@kaldo_kaldo a) Virtually all power adapters are adaptive (pun intended) and will accept any input voltage between 100 and 240 volts. Otherwise, the Xiaomi adapter in the video wouldn't have worked in the first place, since it was clearly a continental european plug with no safety. b) The suggestion was to take a european multi-socket strip and switch the plug to north american, so that they had european sockets at hand whenever they need them, like in the video. Would be way more handy and definitely safer than these flimsy travel adapters. This has absolutely nothing to do with voltage and AC frequency.
I know now what my next xiaomi phone will be, such a beautiful device! I am now rocking the Redmi 9 Power, which has such good batterylife. My phone has a 6000mAh battery, rivaling some smaller powerbanks, i can top up my iPhone X with my Redmi and still have enough juice left in my 9 Power to make it through the day
I've travelled for many shoots before, and depending on your flight schedule it's possible that there might not be time to juice up your battery packs (that you used up for the shoot itself) before you need to leave for the airport after wrap. Considering the rush to the airport, and needing to separate them properly for check-in makes planning to have the specifically non-depleted one available on hand a low priority, even if you do have them.
I just want to add that you have battery protection in place like @DigitalIP mentioned BUT if you don't care at all, you can set battery to YEET mode, which extends full speed charge time, and will slow down later (not completely off). there is a warning about lowering battery life, but if you want this for at most 2 years, it should not break it, and you will have incredible charging most of the time. IMHO 150W is great feature when you are in rush and your phone is absolutely dead. Connect it to laptop charger and get it back to life within few minutes. its not like we use that ALL the time, but at least few times in 2 years you will need extra 20% battery like RIGHT NOW.... 5/12/20W charger overnight and 100W+ for emergency, when you overslept to work, and your phone was running HBO whole night and now is 5% battery.... I am using 30W older version and comparing to my wife Iphone, that's already superbly useful. I literally don't use power banks anymore, while she have to keep charged one in her bag all the time... I really consider those, just for big battery and fasteeeeeeeeeeeeeer charge combo.
xiaomi did the smart thing and split the battery into two parts and is using 60W per cell. it should actually be better for the battery than the 65W that OnePlus is using :)
@@dani7662 cool, good to know. i'll check it out. i have a fairly good idea on how Xiaomi did it and the tech is very impressive. for example temps actually affects the speed of the charging so it never gets really warm like many think it does.
been using 65 watt charging for more then a year now always try to keep it between 20 to 80 , battery health is very good and it charges in like 16-17minutes from 20 to 80 .
For any doubters - I had a OnePlus phone over a year ago that full charged in under half an hour. Now I have a galaxy device that takes over an hour "fast charging" and it kills me.
7:29 -> 8:31 I think Fast charging is only activated when a phone batery is at a certain warm'ish temperature. So I think it's normal to have stayed along time in the "low-zone" when the phone was shutdown. Shutdown phone = cold battery. I think! Though, Linus was equally right.
Id love to see a long term test of ultra fast charging vs regular charging on this device and see what difference the battery capacity is after a while
This is why I miss removable battery. 0:59 You want(need) 15 min to fully charge your battery? Well, you can do it in less than 1 min if you can replace it with your spare battery.
@@kamisatoayaka9039 the simple truth is the smaller something is, the harder it is to work with. you can build a pc but you cant build a phone, smart watch or even repair a wireless earbud
Yeah reason why I recently ordered my 2nd xiaomi phone was for the 3.5mm jack and the expandable storage, they are absolutes musts for me. The ir is just a bonus I have used several times when someone has lost the tv remote lol
I got a Xiaomi phone and tablet, and the fast charge ist absolutely insane. Even after a year the phone ist fully charged in 15 mins and the tablet takes about half an hour
I have their first 120w charging phone, the Mi 10 ultra. 2 years in it's just fine including battery health. Heck I'm pretty sure you took a look at it yourself
@@leonro I mostly charge at 60 watts and overnight, though I know of others who charge at 120. I myself use 120 when I'm in a pinch. It's to be noted when using the 120 watt charger after the initial 120 it reduces and sustains 80 watts, so the 60 watt charger is pretty close anyway. My battery health is at 94%
That is scary power! I recently got the 10 Pro and it is great, incredible for the money and just works perfectly. While Samsung are robbing us by making us pay extra for the charger "to save the planet" Xiaomi included not only a 33w charger which is plenty fast enough but also a case!
One Plus' phones are (depending on the model) 30 watt and 60 watt chargers. Mine is 30 watt, and it takes 15 minutes to go from 50% to 100%. I imagine that 120 watts is the peak and it doesn't actually use that much power for more than a few seconds, otherwise the phone would be hot as hell.
hopefully this will see enough interest in open source developers so that i can buy it and install non crappy software onto it. The hardware is very interesting though and at a very reasonable price!
I think it should. Redmi note series are one of their staple and best selling series and historically they have some of the best non google open source support you can have. Source: I have a Redmi note 7s with lineage and I know about these communities well enough to predict this. There is a chance it won't be as good considering in India it's pricing isn't competitive enough, and many developers are from India.
Xiaomi's software isn't too bad. And even if you have a problem with it, they still let you unlock the bootloader easily, they even provide the software for it (Mi unlock I believe it's called)
You can fully debloat miui via adb basically in the week of launch for any xiaomi phone. Or on day one as there is basically universal support for miui. It takes about 15 minutes to do but you end up with a pretty much stock phone
I have had a Xiaomi phone for 3 years now and trust me the experience isn't that great thanks to MIUI. There are a lot of optimisations on top of Android but the battery management is just too aggressive. I've had way too many instances of missed notifs so I had to flash a custom ROM of stock Android.
This phone feels like Samsung A52 5G- it has all of its cool features. I wonder if almost all smartphones manufacturers release very similar phones the same year. 🤔
@@chazeii_ I used Xiaomi before A52 and Samsung android is full of bloat - useless apps that can't be removed, every system update it pushes me to download some random game ( that paid samsung to be included in update) so I guess I would go Xiaomi here. But A52 does have better water resistance. Samsung - better water resistance and probably more safe system with more often updates, but bloated system that drains battery like crazy. Xiaomi - cleaner android and can be rooted without voiding warranty.
About camera "color quality". I can say that - I see it's going into that full range, so you can "normalize" to standard colors. But you don't lose details in shadows or bright sun.
I have this cell phone model and it's a complete beast, big screen, great battery, great fast charging and great sound. I don't ask for more. Greetings from Ecuador
@@kaldo_kaldo Ik the joke, but the charger is what mostly does the feeding to make it charge so quickly, so it would probably take an hour with their charger so you have to have both to flex 🥲
I just got my S21. While playing around in the settings I came across the charging features and the ability to limit how full the battery charges to 85%. I disabled all fast charging and enabled the charge limit. I can get a full day out of my phone without issue. My S9 battery after 4 years is so bad that I can't even make it through the day, even on power save mode.
Thec11t pro also has this 120w charging. If it came with a dex alternative I would have already switched to it. I want to be able to use my phone in high performance mode max rez and still be able to use it throughout a whole day. Being able to charge it that fast makes that possible. My current solution is I have a 10,000 mah battery case on my phone. It's a brick in every sense of the word but I don't have to worry about keeping my phone on battery saver all day just to watch RUclips videos.
2:31 So true and it's still a deal breaker for me even though I begrudgingly bought an Xiaomi Pad 5 even though it didn't have expandable storage. I've started to come around on the headphone jack - sacrificing the audio quality of my Sennheiser IE8 (though USB-C to audio adaptor is a solution) for the convenience and noise cancelling of bluetooth headphones. However, I'm still a dinosaur with 100+GB of weeb music on an SD card which won't all be on Spotify so expandable storage is still a must for me.
When phones are out of power, they can't even run the USB controller and so there is no handshake. As a result, the phone electrics are required to draw only very little power (100 mA or so). Once you have a bit of juice, you can then start actual microchips, CPU or firmware; depending on sophistication, that can go up to 2 A. Or you boot the system; then, if the firmware however is simple, it may not have a USB PD driver, so it's possible PD will only become available much later in the boot procedure (as you observed).
I have the same 11t pro . I did notice getting warm when charging , phone and brick too . And guess what there is no option to turn it off the hyper charge ...not the easy way anyway
I've got the mi A2 and can't get cases for it anymore but it's bloody old now it's been extremely solid and was my first Chinese phone. As long as it has IR I'm keen on this phone as I need it to use apple TVs as I hate the new remotes.
Hi! Please share your opinions: Is this phone still the best "bang for the buck" even if it doesn't have 5G support? 128 GB / 6 GB scratch-free version seems a good deal for 200 € ?
Phones like the ones from Xiaomi and Oppo are best examples that you can have nice things for "a penny". I got myself a functional Oppo A96 and it came with a 5000mAh battery and a 33W charger. Granted, it doesn't charge as fast as the Redmi, but still a respectable 50ish minutes from almost dead to full. 200 bucks, absolutely chump change for the value. Oh, and considering my average use (lil' bit of surfing, lil' bit of chatting, noting extraordinary), a full charge lasted me a good 2 days and some.
You should check out the Chargie C Basic, it's a hardware device that limits your charging speed to 8W and lets you configure a cut-off charging level. This version only works for phones, but they're working on a larger version for laptops that don't have a built-in charge limiter or only have a basic version without all of the options that you get with something like a ThinkPad. It does take a while to charge, but I'm willing to give up charging speed for battery health. One great use case is for anyone who uses Android Auto or Car Play and doesn't want their phone constantly charging to 100%. It's not as much of an issue on short trips to the store, but for long distance trips it can really help reduce battery degradation.
The more surprising thing is to actually have a battery that can accept a charge this fast. Pretty sure that at this current it immediately shoots up to maximum voltage and the charge rate is then dropping.
Charging: the advertised charging time is for 220-240 Volts (120 Watts), not the North American 110-120 Volts (=96 Watts only) standard. It's stated on their website on the bottom notes (the * notes) AND: Display must be turned off ;)
attention from your own experience you can try it yourself by including a power meter the power is displayed in watts you can see that the charging power only goes to 120 watts when the display is off as soon as you switch on the display during hypercharge the charging power is throttled! !!!
I have the Redmi Note 9S and wodering if I should upgrade, I want the NFC feature but not sure if it's worth buying a whole new phone (despite it being so cheap), but my Note 9S is still going strong and has no issues/
a colleague from work has this phone and it literally charges from 5% to 100% in 15 minutes (220V) he doesnt even bother charging it when going to sleep. he just plugs it when he wakes up, and its full when he is ready to leave home
Great content overall, but in my humble opinion: - While having a look at it, you could have thrown in some experience with the headphone jack and bluetooth audio. - I am pretty sure that aiming almost directly at studio illumination is not the best way to review a camera. Nevertheless, thank you for the review.
as a kid, i always said battery will improve in the future. then in high school year, i said only battery hits its limit. it need to be combine with capacitor for fast charging with low mah... today, my mind is blown by battery technologies. how it its able to fast charge while having low degradation. what if they stack these battery instead of those circular one, could they fit more inside a car in volume? since these battery is flat, they could easily pass air or some kind of thermal sheet to cool it down during fast charging and rapid acceleration of a car.
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When I was a kid this is what I dreamed quick charging was like.
When I was a kid rechargeable batteries were a bit of a luxury.
I remember reading in a tech magazine in the early 2000s about a technology that would enable you to just add a few drops of alcohol to charge your phone. It was only a few years away they said…
we had multiple batteries for our 3310 , instant full charge
When I was a kid everything had swappable batteries so quick charging was not an issue.
It has actually gotten worse for me.
Jeez, you must have of had a miserable childhood if that's what you was dreaming about.
It actually "only" runs 96W on 100-120V AC. This is the fine print on Xiaomi's site:
*Maximum output power will be 120W with 220~240V input; Maximum output power will be 96W with 100~120V input. Maximum output power may not be 120W based on different voltage input in some regions."
So charging in 20 min instead of 15 makes sense.
That's why they get the european power brick. That 15 minutes advertising is mostly for Europe market because here we have 240V from the wall (I'm from Poland btw)
Can't believe LTT missed this. Come on guys! Do your job!
@@1996Pred Yeah, Europe (and most of the world really) uses between 220V and 240V plugs.
@@leonro *Laughs in Brazil where you can have either 110v or 220v depending on the city*
@@1996Pred BTW Poland actually use 230V.
For the record, Samsung and or Android 12 has a battery health option to max charge to 85%, so that type of fast charge protection is already available.
Can confirm Samsung already has that, rocking a Galaxy Tab S6 Lite (announced in 2020) at max charge 85%, I won't remember I turned that on in a couple years, but my battery will be a-ok
Some other brands has a similar function, charging till 80% and top the rest up when you're awake.
@@N3v3r_S3ttl3 yeah my Motorola edge (2021) does this. It's under "Optimized charging"
@@N3v3r_S3ttl3 Google Pixel 6
@@N3v3r_S3ttl3 Caping the charge at 80% or 85% is still much better in terms of battery health
I believe there was also some talk of these chargers not working as fast on 110v as they do on 220v, which might be why they didn't send you an NA charger, because they don't exist.
Chargers work slightly more efficiently on 220V so small charger may "thermal-throttle" on 110V but this is chonky and they did not mention it getting hot so I doubt that is the case here. At 110v it would pull something above 1A which is totally reasonable.
basing on a knowledge about how such a charger works I guess its just a myth and charging speed is the same on 110 and 220/30
This information is available on Xiaomi website with small print - 120W charger does 96W charging on 110V.
@@piotrdaniel5029 Well, time to improve basic knowledge because you cannot just pull as much Amps as you desire into small brick and since Power = Volts*Current you might not be able to just draw 2 times more current to make up for lower voltage, especially since simples equation for heat in related to electricy depends on current SQUARED, so 4 times more heat on same line with same output power.
@@pasikavecpruhovany7777 Yeah and it would convert it to something like 20V and 6A which is not that reasonable anymore...
Honestly, I would get this phone just because of the features it has, from a headphone jack, microSD, and actually decent speakers. These were the benchmarks for phones a couple of years past, and now we ignore that. If this thing had a customer-friendly replaceable battery, I would've just thrown my money at them.
and an other OS as well would be great, less shity app installed from the get go and some other things like this and yeah, id definitly go back to xiaomi
Thease batteries are cheap bro, i've got a 4 year xiaomi phone the Note 5 and i recently bought a second one for $10 on china and paid more $10 on a random tech assist to replace it.
@@RL-iq5ue not everyone is living in China
@@faisfaizal5194 everyone can order staff from china tho, aliexpress ;)
as far as I understand it only charges 120w if you request it to but usually it defaults to a lower wattage anyways. also technically there are two cells in the phone which means that they are only charged at 60w each anyways which is not too vad
I didn't reliase there was 2 cells, at least that cuts it down to
The chemistry does not care if you have one big cell or multiple small cells. It does not matter if they are in series or parallel. What is interesting is the ratio between charging current and capacity. If you have two cells it means half the capacity each and thus the ratio stays constant. There is no way around it.
It might help to reduce the heat concentration but that is all. 120W into such a small battery, 6,35C in this case, is brutal. It will damage the battery, that is unavoidable. So if you can charge it slower. Its a nice feature to use once a while.
@@nukularpictures this is why I prefer to use a dumb charger for my phone although it has fast charging capability.
@@nukularpictures You got really confused there. Each battery charges at 60W. That's it. Combine 60W+60W that's your 120W advertised. Each cell never is charged at 120W. Also you seem to have no knowledge on batteries there. There is no permanent damage to the battery, it doesn't even warm up. and all the heavy lifting is done somewhere else (i.e. the power brick itself). The technology has gone real far in the last 5 years and phones with 60W charging have comparable longevity to those with conventional charging.
The number of cells does not matter, waht matters is so called C-rate aka total capacity in Ah (Amphours) divided by charge rate in Amps.
Luckily C-rate is easy to convert to time, since with C-rate of 1 your charging takes 1 hour, with C-rate of 2 it takes 30 minutes, C-rate of 0.5 takes 2 hours and so on.
The problem is that going above C-rate of 0.5 (
The key feature for me that barely gets mentioned that is so important to me is a flat screen!! Curved screens are the worst I hate accidentally registering touches on the edges when watching videos
Yeah, I got a used OnePlus 7 pro and despite loving everything else, almost sold it shortly after because of that stupid curved screen, I don't normally like cases, but I tried one and that has fixed my issue with it.
I regret going back to a flat screen, due to the screen to bezel ratio, a slightly curved screen is still better imo, and you still won't get false touches if your OS is good.
I've got a pixel 6 pro and I'm having the opposite problem (among others, I mean). When I try to press screen buttons near the edges, it takes several tries to even get it to register.
@@AustynSN if you have a screen protector, thats the reason, otherwise make sure accidental touch protection isn't enabled.
@@flandrble Curved edges are bullshit. Flat displays all the way. Most people hate curved screens. If curved screens were really that good then why do the displays curve only on the sides and not the top and bottom.
Great seeing Linus appreciate features like the headphone jack and microSD card slot! Phone companies will make these compelling devices and then keep taking away one features at an iteration and call those upgrades. Recently, this is what happened to Samsung Galaxy A50 series with the launch of A53...
tbh I was hugely anti BT headset myself, but honestly the technology is at a point where wireless headphones last practically forever and sound just as good at the same price as equal wired versions, there is just no downside at all anymore. If I was really in a pinch, you still have USB-C to 3.5mm adapter.
@@AntaresSQ01 "last practically forever" has been changed to mean two days of medium usage ? dayum
@@doddezx I use mine for 3-4 hrs a day, headphones themselves last about 10 hours on 1 charge, case charges them fully 5x at least. I think i have to charge it somewhere in the region of once every 2 weeks for less than 30 mins lmao, "practically forever" to me...
@@AntaresSQ01 but doesn't the batteries degrade over time??
@@shanepatrick641 Probably, but not in any appreciable way. I've had mine for over 2 years now and they still easily last the above mentioned hours
Been using the 120w charger on the 11t pro for about 6 month now, still alive. The battery health hasn't changed so far.
lmao
@@rayyansheik why lmao?
Yep and it charges 0 to 100 at a little more then 15 minutes with me its insane
@@whyarewehere3893 The guy is probably clueless. I used a Iphone XS Max from release which was sep 2018 until the s22 ultra released feb 25 of this year. my battery capacity is 82 percent. I charged it to 100 when i slept and basically ran it until 10 percent daily. point is the phone will long be outdated by the time you need to worry about battery health.
@@Fluffypotato1990
Also I think they're getting smarter as far as building in safeguards so you don't overcharge or mess up the battery. But yeah 82% after nearly 4 years is darn good.
0:50
Apple's all like : We don't need to sell you the power brick
Xiaomi's like : We're gonna sell you the powerbrick. And Oh! There's might be a phone inside the box
the best part of it is, that with the same charger, but a different UBS cable, you can make it stop using 120W, bcoz the USB cable has a chip taht tells the charger what power it can take.
@@krisg822 Woah that's really fascinating!!
Marques did a really good video recently on how fast charging doesn't necessarily degrade your battery.
Yep, and it's funny people say how fast charging is gonna degrade battery faster, yeah in reality it is actually wireless charging and heat that degrades battery much faster.
iPhone ppl gonna lose their minds
@@penwimon fax
yeah. it's the heat
As famous as he may be, he really doesnt know much. His speciality is reading off spec sheets and other peoples work.
8:08 Is that a hydro flask? Such betrayal of the LTT water bottle
lmao exposed
Haha I came to comment the same thing.
It might be Linus’ bottle.
For cleanliness, hydro flask is excellent as you can put it in the dishwasher. Almost no other vacuum sealed water bottle does that. It is twice the price of most vacuum water bottles though 😅
I'd like to see the channel do a deep dive into how their doing the charging tech without risking damage to the battery because the way they're splitting between different cells of the battery is really neat.
Look how tesla do
Linus actually took the black phone's box when he said that the blue phone's box wasn't showing the real color
Watched it 5 times now, he did in fact grab the blow tinted one. Linus picks up and shows us the box that the cream(blue) phone came out of. You can see if put the black phones box to the right and the cream box to the left.
I genuinly still miss the AUX and the fact that it has a IR blaster too, thats fucking awesome. My old Galaxy S6 with the IR blaster was literally a dream.
Xiaomi phones are generally packed.
Controlling my office AC units with my phone has been a real BLAST! Colleagues always be wondering, who's messing with the controls LMAO!
Yeah it is such a convenient feature. You forget where remotes are and you don't care about searching them under the couch pillows or anything. You can always just use your phone. Also great fun when messing with the devices in other places, lol.
But Apple and Samsung etc are now all about removing features instead of giving more, and the sheep still pay up.
@@rodolfo_rlf Mostly the redmi line tho. The main line usually doesn't have a headphone hack nor expandable memory.
@@SuperFlawless2010 😂😂😂 Suddenly TV turns on! I'm just gonna buy this to prank my colleague's Hell yeah!
Budget phones: Headphone jack, power adapter, micro-sd + sim card slot
Expensive phones: Single SIM slot and cable
Woah finally a short circuit with a Xiaomi phone that doesn't discredit the phone from the start. And to think Riley just said that 'charging brick is too big' when holding the same 120W charger.
I saw a video recently where someone proved that fast charging isn't inherently going to damage your battery, regardless of the speed. The issue is heat, which can be mitigated with a phatt charging brick.
MKBHD - "Does fast charging actually ruin your battery life?"
Watch MKBHD video, very useful.
A larger charging brick isn't going to cool your phones battery. I have a big aluminum bracket on my desk that I place my phone on when it is fast charge to pull away some of the heat.
@@rubiconnn The bigger brick does help generate less heat in the phone. Go watch MKBHD's vid. He explains all this.
A charger simply being larger does absolutely nothing for how hot a phone gets, that's not how it works.
That only applies to the warpcharge 30T charger with compatible OnePlus phones, which MKBHD says is because they've integrated some of the battery management hardware into the charger so there's less power management happening in the phone itself. So that won't work with any other phone that isn't "T charging certified".
It's all dependant on how the manufacturer has designed the phone and it's specific charger to work with it.
Still a pretty cool concept though and I'm a fan of anything that improves battery life.
I've been researching about this phone among others. And somewhere they mentioned that by default the max rate out of the box is 100w in order to extend battery life. But if necessary, you can switch it to 120w from the control panel. Maybe that's the reason for the "slower than expected" charging times. Greetings.
this is just an amazing phone in general. The cost seems very resonable for all the good you are getting without having to deal with mainstream phone brand bs.
Well plus the ccp bloatware but I love it anyway!
@@npc4805 So easy to uninstall them via ADB
To be fair, Xiaomi/redmi are mainstream brands, just not in north America
*once you install a custom rom*
@@fishypo0p558 had no idea you could do that with ADB
I'm using Xiami 11t pro. It has same charger. What i noticed. Charge speed decreases when I use phone while charging. Phone is able to self manage its temperatures to keep battery safe, and decreases charge vatage for that. So it may take from 20 to 25-28min for full charge.
My little sister has the lower model of this (Note 11), which has 55W charging, which is amazing. It also has an IR emitter which is great as the AC remote at our new home is broken, but the Mi Note 11 has a built in app supporting over 100 brands of all sorts of appliances. For the little over $200 it cost even though there is no contract, it is great.
Considering 80% is the optimal I'd say the 15 minutes is spot on. Also a phone with SD + headphone jack + IR? This might replace my P30 pro when it fails :o Sure the camera looks a bit worse but that's something I could probably live with.
That IR blaster is crazy attractive for me. I REALLY miss fucking with people's TVs lol, or being able to save the day when they couldn't find their remote
xiaomi is fine if you are from p30, but you also can consider Oppo
just dont go samsung like me 🤦
@@dedoyxp why? You got green screen or light saber screen?
@@subBGT experience is significantly different, and some features that seems available on most android doesnt available on samsung
If you're somewhere in NA, is it really worth it? As far as I know, Xiaomi don't really have a place in the NA market.
I have actually already been looking into buying one of these, because of the fast charging. It is exactly as Linus said: I travel a lot and i sometimes need to charge my phone real quick. Also it has good value.
well if u can stand the ads they put into the OS then go for it. I have poco x3 pro and I barely notice the ads. IDK bout this one.
@@imvention5696 No, only the china ROM have ads. I've used 3 xiaomi phones with global roms and have never seen ads. There are some in their apps but you can turn all of them off in 10 minutes guaranteed
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket I like to think everyone is aware that China is run by human rights abusing monsters.
Which Phone/PC are you using, that is not made in China?
There is a lot of that going around these days, and I'd like to see you do business without China.
What's that about my profile picture?
@@imvention5696 even if he has ads he can just turn them off quickly
@@hhiz7425 facts
I'm using my Mix 4 with 120w charging for a year now. There isnt any noticable batterie degeneration. I think mainly because you will automaticly switch from charging ervery night to only charging if needed.
By moving most of the regulation and power circutry from the phone to the charger, it is going to move a majority of the heat away from the phone thus prolonging the life of the battery. Couple that with ultra low internal battery resistance with higher current handleing cell technologies and it may provide similar if not reduced cell degradation since the battery is charged faster and has less time to heat up and stay hot during the charging process.
The biggest thing that would help prolong the useable life of the battery in almost any phone is to have the phone default to a long life mode out of the box that charges to 80% but reports 100% to the user and goes into low power reserve mode with a user reminder to charge at 20%. Then let the user decide if they want to have longer battery life or more battery capacity available. The other thing that would prolong the phone is to make it easy for an end user to replace the battery when it does finally drop into that 70-75% area of original capacity since below that area is when cell failure rates tend to increase.
A good consumer cellphone should have a useable life of 5-6 years minimum and 10 years or more on the high end, professional, commercial and industrial side of things. Their is no good reason for the overwhelming majority of cellphone users to replace a phone more often than this since the cellular technology does not change all that often. 4G hasn't even been fully deployed in many areas and it will likely be a decade or more before 5G is available nearly everywhere in North America. Every cellphone company should be held to a minimum performance spec to even call something a smartphone at the time of sale and they should provide users the most efficient and stripped down versions of whatever OS is running on the phone so that they stay snappy longer preventing the need for useless upgrades. I think back to the not so distant past where feature phones were what most people had and they could go through 10-15 years of updates without really getting any slower. Granted they ran less crap on the whole but that is what current cellphones should be emulating, being as efficient as possible with the hardware that the phone has.
I live in mainland China and use a Korean LG G5 phone. I love the removable battery. This Xiaomi looks dope though I never game, I only just check short messages. I have 4G and going downtown 2hrs on the subway, line S8 has no signal, and line 3 has signal. And I see Chinese folks all staring at their phones, so they have signal. What are they using, fucking 5G? I just read a paperback. The most annoying thing is if your battery runs out or you have no signal, entering the subway they request the health code - no smartphone, can't use taxis or subways, you'll have to walk 50km home, if you can find the way without your Tencent Maps. Entering your home, the gated community guards bark to show your pcr test and health code on your smartphone, if your battery is dead, tough luck going home to sleep. I don't get it, 2011 smartphones are about empowering the individual, it's about having fun, chatting to college girls, traveling around the country using maps and translator to navigate and speak Chinese. And now we're all slaves to machines, so what's the point of dropping money on a phone like this, if it's only to serve the superiors? Also aren't Korean phones the best, why is everyone using Chinese phones? WTF, I gave a Chinese phone a chance in 2013 and the UI is total crap, so I vowed to never buy Chinese phones in my life.
@@hufficag Some of this are more issues of living where you live and government using technology to enslave you, not an issue of the smartphone itself.
I for one to not have this were I live. As about Chinese phones. Well i go with phones like this from Xiaomi because I like having SD card and ir blaster etc and in general I am fine. I don't have any big issues that make the phone nightmare to use. I guess the biggest thing that works badly is the automatic orientation that seems to be quirky and oversensitive.
That sounds cool and all but it's the complete opposite of capitalism lol
@@SIPEROTH I think the biggest issue is always not enough space, apps shut down due to consuming all the space. And then you try to enter somewhere, sorry can't show you my health code, phone is out of space. And battery life is another big issue, like by early afternoon the phone is almost dead. They should bring back removable batteries like we have in laptops where I carry spares in my backpack. First year in China was so much fun, travel, adventure, with a smartphone that allows me to navigate this alien landscape, and a backpocket with full batteries. But now it's no more relationships, no more businesses that make money, no more freedom etc.
@@SIPEROTH That "enslavement" is one of the reasons why China has done one of the best jobs in handling the pandemic, and why "freedom-rich" countries like the USA have had so much more people falling sick and dying.
Isn't there a prototype of 240W fast charging from Oppo? Can't wait to see you guys test out that one.
what the fuck
Can someone tell Oppo to calm the F down?
210 watt
7:15 owning 11Tpro, the phone didnt even want to charge with 120W for few weeks, until it 'learned' the battery profile,
the full speed of charging can not be achieved out of the box, all new phones do that.
Also, to fully use the fulle charging speed, things like WiFi, GPS and so on have to be disabled and the phone has to be on battery saver. the more you know.
Okay, headphone jack and expandable storage is actually insanely awesome. As Linus said, I have no idea either why it is that the budget phones come with both these in 2022 phones but flagships dropped them years ago..
Not all flagships, Sony Xperia still got them
@@pixels_per_inch My gripe with Xperias is the laughable software support and the ridiculous price. I wouldn't dare to look at the Xperia 1, but the 5 is still too damn expensive for what it offers. Xperia 10 IV should have at least a 120Hz dispaly and a much better SoC for it's asking price.
Anyway, I've been using Samsung phones a long time, and it's sad that Xiaomi is now what Samsung used to be. No more headphone jack, no more sd card, no more charger in the box... I really miss those extra features, and the IR blaster comes in handy too, when my phone had it I used it quite a lot, since it makes your phone a portable remote for almost everything.
Because they don't have to be water resistant
I've been using my Xiaomi 10 Ultra since 2020 November, I've always used the 120w charger, and battery health is still at 97%. If you don't charge overnight, and keep the battery between 10% and 90%, you will be fine with the 120w charger.
Well the issue with fast charging is the heat it causes, which is awful for batteries. If you’re going to fast charge, just try not to use it at the same time, and you’ll probably be fine.
@@logan62097 well that's the point if it Chargers from 20 to 80 in 10min who needs to use thier phone while charging it is annoying and fast charging negates it just be patient for a short 10min
@@logan62097 Xiaomi also made the charging to slow down when the phone is too hot
@@logan62097 They are perfectly fine, and not overheating during the fast charge (even 120W). I'm using Mi 10 Ultra and Mi 11 Ultra and the only thing that is hot is the charger.
From what I heard to achieve maximum charge rate there is a setting you need to turn on. I will confirm when mine shows up this week.
it's true, and to achieve max speed you need the screen to be turned off
Yes it has to be on to hypercharge. It has to negotiate with the software to be sure it's allowed to take the gloves off. Otherwise, if it just tried to pump that power in to anything you plugged in to it, someone is going to literally blow up their phone by borrowing your charger without your permission.
the thing is most implementations of USB quickcharge already have this implementation built-in and perform handshaking passively. Look to USB-C charged laptops, for example.
@@TheEpicLinkFreeman think of the available space in a laptop to put the hardware for that handshake.
Now think of a phone size device.
See there is not much space to put it in.
Software is good enough.
@@Bulanesti Very ignorant comment, reminiscent of people who justified the removal of the headphone jack with "they needed to remove it to get waterproofing and add features" while similar android phones matched or exceeded its feature set while retaining a headphone jack. The most likely reason for them not including hardware to do this is that they couldn't find an OEM USB controller that was rated at what they wanted, so they went with a different solution that allows them to tell the charger over software, in exchange for a lower default charging rate.
@@TheEpicLinkFreeman Well this ignorant me that is absolutely crippling dumb has not justified anything like removing the headphone jack.
While I am completely agreeing that it would be nice to have HW based pairing between the phone and the charger for the ultra charge stuff perhaps you are lacking in some basic information on what is required for that.
If you are so inclined to throw shade how about you use your brain and compare a 1000$ phone with a 400$ one and see where most of the cost usually is.
Hint: it's the CPU, cameras, ram, storage in that order.
Now a 1000$ has in the budget to have extra silicone dedicated in the CPU to have the fast charging while phone is OFF(one of the space saving options, there are others). And that's great but the cost to develop that extra custom part on the CPU is not cheap and definitely not worth for a cheap phone's cpu.
So then the cheap phone manufacturer would have to dedicate some space on the motherboard or a daughterboard where other a lot more important components are.
The extra space for the extra resistors and maybe even an extra charge chip would take place of other stuff. Yes technically you could fit it, but then all the extra cost and all the extra R&D is not worth for the 400$ phone.
So then my ignorant friend what is the subject we are actually talking about?
Is it the removal of a feature?
OR
The feature is there it just isn't as fancy as you would want because you are a spoiled person that doesn't know to appreciate the difference between engineering effort that can be fitted in 1000$ or 400$.
And cherry on top of all that the phone in question has amazing speakers, has a headphone jack, has expandable storage,
and an IR blaster, things I cannot say most 600$+ phones have.
So yes maybe they did run out of space or funds or both to make the phone.
@@Bulanesti it isn't a matter of figuring out how to cram it in. The internal space used is negligible. Ignorant: lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
The phone already has a charge controller in it. It protects you from shorting pins, shitty chargers, and regulates power input to protect the battery. They cannot leave this out, it would be unsafe. It's literally a matter of sourcing the right part. Not a matter of integrating it, or researching how to add a charge controller to your phone. They already have them.
I got the same charger with my 11T Pro and it's very good, you forget about your charging habits you simply charge it for a little bit when you need to. I just hate how little recognition this is getting
thanks! i still rock s8+ and have no desire to upgrade but he batt is killing me needing 2-3 chrgs a day of heavy use. looking the 11Tpro or mi11 ultra
Battery testing and especially the effect of (quick) charging, power management features or recommend habits to prolong battery life would be a great research project for Linus Tech Labs. Batteries in general are just really interesting right now not only are they crucial to many gadgets and other devices but development is insane right now due to the demand EV's are putting on the industry.
Yes. I'd love to see a more in-depth analysis on the impact of fast-charging on battery health in the long run. Not many people seem very interested in the subject yet.
Apple be like "what kind of sorcery is this"
Airports be like: "haha Redmi you banned now. No power for you"
Here we are in October 2022 and the phone with a 67 Watt European charger is available including door to door delivery through Mercado Libre in Colombia for 1,259.900 pesos or the equivalent of 272 Bucks. Because of the exchange rate this is a super great deal.
Woah a Supernova soundtest instead of Crab rave. Blast from the past.
Instead of relying on adapters, take a european/international power strip and change the plug. You guys always run into this issues yet you have a workshop that does all sorts of things all of which are infinitely more complex than this simple exercise.
You do know that the power input is different though, right? 120V/60Hz vs 240V/50Hz? Anything with a motor would be destroyed. In the case of a charger for a switching power supply it's okay but it's better to use a travel charger because it forces you to remember think about what you're plugging in.
@@kaldo_kaldo a) Virtually all power adapters are adaptive (pun intended) and will accept any input voltage between 100 and 240 volts. Otherwise, the Xiaomi adapter in the video wouldn't have worked in the first place, since it was clearly a continental european plug with no safety.
b) The suggestion was to take a european multi-socket strip and switch the plug to north american, so that they had european sockets at hand whenever they need them, like in the video. Would be way more handy and definitely safer than these flimsy travel adapters. This has absolutely nothing to do with voltage and AC frequency.
I know now what my next xiaomi phone will be, such a beautiful device! I am now rocking the Redmi 9 Power, which has such good batterylife. My phone has a 6000mAh battery, rivaling some smaller powerbanks, i can top up my iPhone X with my Redmi and still have enough juice left in my 9 Power to make it through the day
Does Linus not travel with a portable battery pack? Kinda negates the struggle of needing to charge all the time.
I might be mistaken but I could imagine those not being allowed on flights if they go over a certain capacity right?
I've travelled for many shoots before, and depending on your flight schedule it's possible that there might not be time to juice up your battery packs (that you used up for the shoot itself) before you need to leave for the airport after wrap. Considering the rush to the airport, and needing to separate them properly for check-in makes planning to have the specifically non-depleted one available on hand a low priority, even if you do have them.
In some airlines it's forbidden to charge using powerbanks on airplanes.
@@SyntheticFuture In the US any portable battery under 100wh or about 27000mAh are allowed on plane
@@reeping5038 ah 27000mAh should go a long way. So that's not a big issue :)
I just want to add that you have battery protection in place like @DigitalIP mentioned BUT if you don't care at all, you can set battery to YEET mode, which extends full speed charge time, and will slow down later (not completely off). there is a warning about lowering battery life, but if you want this for at most 2 years, it should not break it, and you will have incredible charging most of the time.
IMHO 150W is great feature when you are in rush and your phone is absolutely dead. Connect it to laptop charger and get it back to life within few minutes. its not like we use that ALL the time, but at least few times in 2 years you will need extra 20% battery like RIGHT NOW.... 5/12/20W charger overnight and 100W+ for emergency, when you overslept to work, and your phone was running HBO whole night and now is 5% battery....
I am using 30W older version and comparing to my wife Iphone, that's already superbly useful. I literally don't use power banks anymore, while she have to keep charged one in her bag all the time... I really consider those, just for big battery and fasteeeeeeeeeeeeeer charge combo.
That's just nuts, I'm still impressed with 65w charge with OnePlus but damn that's a lot of watts
xiaomi did the smart thing and split the battery into two parts and is using 60W per cell. it should actually be better for the battery than the 65W that OnePlus is using :)
@@mariuspuiu9555 OnePlus has the same technology though, the OP 8T it has 2 2250mAh batteries charging in parallel.
@@dani7662 cool, good to know. i'll check it out. i have a fairly good idea on how Xiaomi did it and the tech is very impressive. for example temps actually affects the speed of the charging so it never gets really warm like many think it does.
been using 65 watt charging for more then a year now always try to keep it between 20 to 80 , battery health is very good and it charges in like 16-17minutes from 20 to 80 .
For any doubters - I had a OnePlus phone over a year ago that full charged in under half an hour. Now I have a galaxy device that takes over an hour "fast charging" and it kills me.
I wonder if it wrecks the lifespan of the battery after a year or two of fast charging. I've always charged my phones overnight at around 1 Amp.
How do you control that? I have an iPhone so might not work for me
@@United_Kangaroo1992 probably use a brick which just outputs that much
@@United_Kangaroo1992 Just use a low wattage charger. You probably have a drawer full of old usb chargers somewhere.
Yeah. Low amp chargers are the key. I have a 13 pro max and juice it up with one of the old cubes.
Definitely watch the new MKBHD video on battery degradation
7:29 -> 8:31 I think Fast charging is only activated when a phone batery is at a certain warm'ish temperature. So I think it's normal to have stayed along time in the "low-zone" when the phone was shutdown. Shutdown phone = cold battery.
I think!
Though, Linus was equally right.
@Bazoled Same, I use same app. It is a cool app
Id love to see a long term test of ultra fast charging vs regular charging on this device and see what difference the battery capacity is after a while
That would be a great test to see 😃
2:26, yeah, features like a 2mp macro camera……
This is why I miss removable battery.
0:59 You want(need) 15 min to fully charge your battery?
Well, you can do it in less than 1 min if you can replace it with your spare battery.
most xiaomi is repairable.. just get a certain tool .. i repaired note 6 pro by myself ..all you need to know is how to do it
@@kamisatoayaka9039 using that logic everything is repairable you just need to know how to do it and the tools
@@prabhsaini1 but certain brand make it harder to repair.
@@kamisatoayaka9039 the simple truth is the smaller something is, the harder it is to work with. you can build a pc but you cant build a phone, smart watch or even repair a wireless earbud
I think it would be interesting to see Linus to use this phone as his daily driver for 1 month.
I got this phone today and love it. The screen is definitely a selling point. 120hz freak in awesome. Low light performance for pictures, no problem.
Yeah reason why I recently ordered my 2nd xiaomi phone was for the 3.5mm jack and the expandable storage, they are absolutes musts for me. The ir is just a bonus I have used several times when someone has lost the tv remote lol
I got a Xiaomi phone and tablet, and the fast charge ist absolutely insane. Even after a year the phone ist fully charged in 15 mins and the tablet takes about half an hour
I have their first 120w charging phone, the Mi 10 ultra. 2 years in it's just fine including battery health. Heck I'm pretty sure you took a look at it yourself
Did you charge it at 120W every time?
@@leonro I mostly charge at 60 watts and overnight, though I know of others who charge at 120. I myself use 120 when I'm in a pinch. It's to be noted when using the 120 watt charger after the initial 120 it reduces and sustains 80 watts, so the 60 watt charger is pretty close anyway. My battery health is at 94%
That is scary power! I recently got the 10 Pro and it is great, incredible for the money and just works perfectly. While Samsung are robbing us by making us pay extra for the charger "to save the planet" Xiaomi included not only a 33w charger which is plenty fast enough but also a case!
One Plus' phones are (depending on the model) 30 watt and 60 watt chargers.
Mine is 30 watt, and it takes 15 minutes to go from 50% to 100%.
I imagine that 120 watts is the peak and it doesn't actually use that much power for more than a few seconds, otherwise the phone would be hot as hell.
It uses 120W up to 40%~. it goes down progressively, and the last 5% is at about 10w
hopefully this will see enough interest in open source developers so that i can buy it and install non crappy software onto it.
The hardware is very interesting though and at a very reasonable price!
I think it should. Redmi note series are one of their staple and best selling series and historically they have some of the best non google open source support you can have.
Source: I have a Redmi note 7s with lineage and I know about these communities well enough to predict this.
There is a chance it won't be as good considering in India it's pricing isn't competitive enough, and many developers are from India.
Xiaomi's software isn't too bad. And even if you have a problem with it, they still let you unlock the bootloader easily, they even provide the software for it (Mi unlock I believe it's called)
You can fully debloat miui via adb basically in the week of launch for any xiaomi phone. Or on day one as there is basically universal support for miui. It takes about 15 minutes to do but you end up with a pretty much stock phone
You can already install tonnes of different ROMs. The Xiaomi modding community is HUGE.
@@dennispremoli7950 there´s no single dev thread on xda yet for Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G so well nope 😅
Disadvantage is you need to watch and monitor it until it fully changes. Add a backup fire extinguisher ready just in case.
The battery doesn't get degraded by fastcharging. Heat degrades the battery. And fastcharging doesn't equal overheating necessarily.
I really like the features of this phone and kind of wish they were available in the US. I would use one.
I have had a Xiaomi phone for 3 years now and trust me the experience isn't that great thanks to MIUI. There are a lot of optimisations on top of Android but the battery management is just too aggressive. I've had way too many instances of missed notifs so I had to flash a custom ROM of stock Android.
My mi 10 ultra have 120w and thats like 2 years ago
I usually don't use the 120 WATT charging and turn it off, bellow 20 minute charging just seem excessive
I did sell a lot of these phones and no one says it exploded or something like that
Slow charging is actually good for the battery in the long run. Will not add too much pressure and stress by fast charging. 😎😤😤😎
Xiaomi has gone absolutely mad, love to see it!
With modern batteries, the battery deterioration is a fallacy with quick charging. In some situations, faster charging can actually be beneficial.
This phone feels like Samsung A52 5G- it has all of its cool features. I wonder if almost all smartphones manufacturers release very similar phones the same year. 🤔
reallly? which do u think is much better tho? the samsung a52 or that note 11 pro+. i cant decide which phone should i get. could u help mw
@@chazeii_ I used Xiaomi before A52 and Samsung android is full of bloat - useless apps that can't be removed, every system update it pushes me to download some random game ( that paid samsung to be included in update) so I guess I would go Xiaomi here. But A52 does have better water resistance.
Samsung - better water resistance and probably more safe system with more often updates, but bloated system that drains battery like crazy.
Xiaomi - cleaner android and can be rooted without voiding warranty.
About camera "color quality". I can say that - I see it's going into that full range, so you can "normalize" to standard colors. But you don't lose details in shadows or bright sun.
I wouldn't be worried that the battery would deteriorate in this case. Xiaomi battery are rather very cheap to replace
who can be bothered. plus only reason to buy xiaomi is getting it real cheap to begin with, so not worth getting another battery
That's a good point actually 👏😂
this phone 2 weeks later: I FORGOR WHAT BATTERLY LIFE MEANS 😂
i was sitting in my room alone and 7:33 scared the hell out of me coz for a second i thought u wasn't alone in the room, great audio panning tho 🙌
I have this cell phone model and it's a complete beast, big screen, great battery, great fast charging and great sound. I don't ask for more. Greetings from Ecuador
I would buy this phone for the charging speed flex😂
"Hey can I borrow your charger for 5 minutes?"
(5 actual minutes later) here you go
@@kaldo_kaldo 😂
@@kaldo_kaldo 10 minutes is usually enough for a decent charge anyways.
@@kaldo_kaldo Ik the joke, but the charger is what mostly does the feeding to make it charge so quickly, so it would probably take an hour with their charger so you have to have both to flex 🥲
I just got my S21. While playing around in the settings I came across the charging features and the ability to limit how full the battery charges to 85%. I disabled all fast charging and enabled the charge limit. I can get a full day out of my phone without issue. My S9 battery after 4 years is so bad that I can't even make it through the day, even on power save mode.
Wait, this has 3.5, IR blaster, and sd card? Holy shit. I need this.
For me, fast charging is better for my phone.
I can stay in the 20-80% range far more easily
Fast charging will wear out your battery much faster though.
It's better to slow charge at night, than fast charging in the morning.
The Xiaomi 11 lite NE has a 30 whatts brick and also you can see how the numbers are rising fast.
Thec11t pro also has this 120w charging. If it came with a dex alternative I would have already switched to it. I want to be able to use my phone in high performance mode max rez and still be able to use it throughout a whole day. Being able to charge it that fast makes that possible. My current solution is I have a 10,000 mah battery case on my phone. It's a brick in every sense of the word but I don't have to worry about keeping my phone on battery saver all day just to watch RUclips videos.
2:31 So true and it's still a deal breaker for me even though I begrudgingly bought an Xiaomi Pad 5 even though it didn't have expandable storage. I've started to come around on the headphone jack - sacrificing the audio quality of my Sennheiser IE8 (though USB-C to audio adaptor is a solution) for the convenience and noise cancelling of bluetooth headphones. However, I'm still a dinosaur with 100+GB of weeb music on an SD card which won't all be on Spotify so expandable storage is still a must for me.
When phones are out of power, they can't even run the USB controller and so there is no handshake. As a result, the phone electrics are required to draw only very little power (100 mA or so). Once you have a bit of juice, you can then start actual microchips, CPU or firmware; depending on sophistication, that can go up to 2 A. Or you boot the system; then, if the firmware however is simple, it may not have a USB PD driver, so it's possible PD will only become available much later in the boot procedure (as you observed).
I have the same 11t pro . I did notice getting warm when charging , phone and brick too . And guess what there is no option to turn it off the hyper charge ...not the easy way anyway
I've got the mi A2 and can't get cases for it anymore but it's bloody old now it's been extremely solid and was my first Chinese phone. As long as it has IR I'm keen on this phone as I need it to use apple TVs as I hate the new remotes.
Hi! Please share your opinions: Is this phone still the best "bang for the buck" even if it doesn't have 5G support? 128 GB / 6 GB scratch-free version seems a good deal for 200 € ?
One word: " *Ads* " 🤷♂️ as great at Xiaomi phones are for the price, ads are a deal breaker (doesn't matter if you can disable them)
Oh, no! Although it takes max 5 min to completely disable them.
@@babaroga73 like I said, it doesn't matter, they'll still pop up just at a lower rate
Phones like the ones from Xiaomi and Oppo are best examples that you can have nice things for "a penny". I got myself a functional Oppo A96 and it came with a 5000mAh battery and a 33W charger. Granted, it doesn't charge as fast as the Redmi, but still a respectable 50ish minutes from almost dead to full. 200 bucks, absolutely chump change for the value.
Oh, and considering my average use (lil' bit of surfing, lil' bit of chatting, noting extraordinary), a full charge lasted me a good 2 days and some.
You should check out the Chargie C Basic, it's a hardware device that limits your charging speed to 8W and lets you configure a cut-off charging level. This version only works for phones, but they're working on a larger version for laptops that don't have a built-in charge limiter or only have a basic version without all of the options that you get with something like a ThinkPad. It does take a while to charge, but I'm willing to give up charging speed for battery health.
One great use case is for anyone who uses Android Auto or Car Play and doesn't want their phone constantly charging to 100%. It's not as much of an issue on short trips to the store, but for long distance trips it can really help reduce battery degradation.
How cool would it be to have a laser light at the top of a phone to measure your or someone elses body temp or distances and many other uses?
Your amazon link goes to the non plus phone because it states "67W turbo charging"
The more surprising thing is to actually have a battery that can accept a charge this fast. Pretty sure that at this current it immediately shoots up to maximum voltage and the charge rate is then dropping.
Charging: the advertised charging time is for 220-240 Volts (120 Watts), not the North American 110-120 Volts (=96 Watts only) standard. It's stated on their website on the bottom notes (the * notes)
AND: Display must be turned off ;)
You have to go to the settings and right boost charging speed to charge with 120w to
8:10, is that a non LTT water bottle?
attention from your own experience you can try it yourself by including a power meter the power is displayed in watts you can see that the charging power only goes to 120 watts when the display is off as soon as you switch on the display during hypercharge the charging power is throttled! !!!
I have the Redmi Note 9S and wodering if I should upgrade, I want the NFC feature but not sure if it's worth buying a whole new phone (despite it being so cheap), but my Note 9S is still going strong and has no issues/
2:15 That happens all the time to me with the newer Chinese plugs - none of my 2-pin to 3/UK adaptors can hold the modern ones in place.
a colleague from work has this phone and it literally charges from 5% to 100% in 15 minutes (220V)
he doesnt even bother charging it when going to sleep. he just plugs it when he wakes up, and its full when he is ready to leave home
Great content overall, but in my humble opinion:
- While having a look at it, you could have thrown in some experience with the headphone jack and bluetooth audio.
- I am pretty sure that aiming almost directly at studio illumination is not the best way to review a camera.
Nevertheless, thank you for the review.
Been using this phone for a year now still alive and well the 120 watt charging is a real life saver when i need to charge and about to go out.
as a kid, i always said battery will improve in the future. then in high school year, i said only battery hits its limit. it need to be combine with capacitor for fast charging with low mah... today, my mind is blown by battery technologies. how it its able to fast charge while having low degradation. what if they stack these battery instead of those circular one, could they fit more inside a car in volume? since these battery is flat, they could easily pass air or some kind of thermal sheet to cool it down during fast charging and rapid acceleration of a car.