2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road Reviewed: 6MT vs AT
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- We finally get behind the wheel of the all-new 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off-Road pickup! Available with either a manual or automatic transmission, which one should you get? We test both and pick a winner!
#Toyota #Offroad #toyotatrd
CONTENTS
00:00 - Introduction
00:50 - Features
05:37 - Highway Driving (6MT)
13:17 - Offroad Test 6MT
26:08 - Offroad Test Automatic
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I've watched three other 2024 Tacoma review videos today and this one is by far the most comprehensive and well done. Well done, DST team!
I guess you don't watch savagegeese?
@@jloutz no but I just sub'd thanks
@@jloutz I do and am a subscriber. Did YOU watch their video? They spent about two minutes of their video with the vehicle actually off road and discussed very little of the features. They did however spend a lot of time on the driving characteristics and road manners of the vehicle. I love their channel but didn't think they went into anywhere near the detail that Ryan and his team did for the new Tacoma.
The no clutch start button is to allow you to crank over the engine in gear to allow you to use the starter motor to crawl the vehicle while in 4Low to get it moving. Comes in handy after you've stalled and need to get moving on difficult terrain without breaking traction. Old off-roaders trick...
I was going to comment this, but figured someone would have already pointed this out to him. I was right haha
That's NOT what it's designed for. It's made to be able to simply start it without depressing the pedal. Like of you're starting from the passenger side, or standing outside the truck. You'll eventually damage your starter trying to move the truck when stalled. Just get a driver mod going and slip the pedal on obstacles. This why no one makes manuals anymore... If starting on a slight hill that's fine, not while off-roading.
It's absolutely designed to ride the starter out of a tricky situation, it's explained in the Owners Manual.
@@Shakerhood69 the owners manual doesn't say "to get out of a tricky situation" it says it can be used to roll uphill. Not offroading. If you know you know.
@@Shakerhood69 after reading up, the 2024 Tacoma has a cool down period to prevent damage from the starter, older truck, and noobs reading this will burn out their starters trying to use it instead of being a good driver to get over obstacles. CSC buttons have been around since the late 80s. But still aren't to be used for offroading. You can do it. And luckily there's nannies to prevent modern idiots from using it as a crutch.
As equiped it will be pushing $50k. With dealer mark ups at first $55k. Loaded up will be $55k plus dealer mark up. $60k for a mid sized truck. We have officially moved to crazyville. 🥴
Crazyville? I'm in Canada. The Trail Hunter Tacoma MSRP with tax is $100,000.
Yup. Here we are. A Tacoma pickup is One Hundred thousand dollars.
Toyota needs to offer the manual through all the models.
TRD Pro with a manual would be sweet
I don't think a manual on a Limited would make sense.
They make the worst manual I've ever driven. And I have been driving manuals for 35 years.
About the No Clutch Start - 2 valuable uses of that button. One, starting the truck with the truck in neutral without climbing in to press the clutch, saving time and mechanical wear. Two, you can actually use the starter as a way to get the truck unstuck by starting the truck in gear without engaging the clutch. The is an old school technique that isn't really all that useful today with the typical starter / clutch interlock safety features.
Funny how the "off-road guy" didn't know this, haha.
Great review of the 24’ model. It seems the extra $1,100 for the automatic and additional features is well worth it. I wonder if they left the manual without sound dampening so the driver could hear the engine for shifting? I’ve driven manuals for a little over 20 years and appreciate hearing the revs and the overall feel of the vehicle to reach ideal shift points.. just my $.02
I've never seen anyone more obsessed with different modes than this guy....
The manual transmission is the way to go. I always say if I have the option to buy one with stick that's the route I'm gonna take
200k on my manual 17 with no major issues
I'm in that "I always say" camp, lol
The way autos are nowadays, they’ve essentially made manual obsolete. Don’t get me wrong, I love driving manual, but for the extra features you get with the auto I’d get the auto.
@@lulop022882 I mean, y'ain't wrawng...... 🤓
Not so much with Toyotas because of their reliability but I always choose a manual because they are much more reliable
The no clutch start is actually really nice for passenger who gets in and wants to start the truck. It’s also really nice they put it in center instead of by drivers door. I use mine all the time when working on truck and don’t wanna climb in to start it
The old taco manuals specifically said not to use all the time, just sayin
Great review Ryan! While I am not 100% in love with this new design or the engine choice, I do like the D/C sway bar option and the Hi-Lift jack points. I liked your editing here with the designer explaining things as you brought it up during the drive. "Toyota does not trust me" LOL Nice. I am with you on transmission choice. And I liked that you specifically explained the extra benefit of the CC. The visuals and audio are very good. Professional on par job. Thanks.
TFL, and DST are where I go for my Reviews. I knew Ryan would deep dive into it, and getting a comparison between the manual and the auto was an absolute treat! Thank you Ryan! Can wait for you to get it on your course and do your own review on your own terms.
TFL is like TMZ, it's largely staged for clicks. Reviews like this are great.
@@paulelledge8977yeah, the fake questions are annoying and pandering. “Can you guess what truck we are going to drive today?” “No, which one?” As they are literally sitting in it.
@@paulelledge8977 Well said. TFL is exactly like TMZ, no real direction, and really click baity. It’s funny how TFL always prides themselves as journalists, but they are far from one. I rarely go to TFL for an actual vehicle review anymore. I prefer auto buyers guide or redline reviews.
Hey Ryan,
It’ll be fun to watch you test the new Taco in the snow and on your course in a few months
I'd say soon😮
@@JuniorTLafaille Yeah, it’s supposed to start snowing here tomorrow
Excellent video! Your video is informative and put together well. Other channels seem to rush through the content.
Thank you Toyota for keeping the manual. Now please let me buy one!
Always a good day to watch more DSTV videos
You said it!!!!
True technical review rather than just doing interior, exterior and driving impressions.
"A lot of journalists can't even drive a stick anymore." Sigh... that's just sad.
Why do auto reviewers consider themselves as journalists? If I unbox and review toys on RUclips, am I a journalist?
@@Yoyomanmanhollabc they are
journalists reporting about cars. RUclips is pretty useful for the content and info they put out. Manufactures work with them and give them information, as well as invite them first drives to first deliver that information to the public. And to answer your question, no, you are not a journalist if you simply make a RUclips review on something. A lot needs to happen before that. Hope this helps.
That's just a blanket BS statement. I'd put money that almost all of them can and definitely "most" of them can.
@booggerg independent journalist can be just about anyone talking about any subject. Every American has the right to freedom of the press. That constitutional right alone is what protects others filming others in public without conviction. As long as you are on public land. The point is journalism is whatever person bring you info that you support whether a degree is involved or not.
@@jessestout9576 ok so I am be a toy unboxer and reviewer journalist
Wish I could give you two thumbs up for reviewing a STANDARD transmission ❤️
yah been waiting for this thank you ! you are the best to test
JUST drove the 2024 TRD Off Road Taco. Great truck. Surprised by the power of that turbo 4. Great tech, amazing seats, still kinda small back seat. (I’m 6’2”).
But….. dealer in Fresno Calif wanted $8000 markup.
No way!
Did you find the suspension to be comfortable on pavement??
@@insidious2181 Yeah. Really good compared to the 2020-2023 Taco
Got mine yesterday in coachella valley. No markup. Jbl bsm etc etc. msrp or a little lower
Awesome! I've been waiting for this review. I need a manual transmission Tacoma. :)
This is how off-road reviews should be done. No fluff just stuff
Amazing review Ryan!! Did anyone else catch Tom Voelk walking through the shot a couple times with the toyota engineer? I can’t wait to get more info about the hybrid next spring. Keep up the awesome work Ryan.
The no clutch start is for off roading...But I find it super useful after skiing when I want to warm up the truck but still have ski boots on.
This is very exciting! And that new color is awesome. I would agree with you 100% front facing camera is must. Especially, if you call it TRD off road edition. Thanks for an excellent review/ video.
Last weekend my cousin and i took his hilux up in the mountains with heavy rain, slapped on 4lo and
and made quick work of the mountain and it was bad, holes the size of chairs. Yall are babying the truck.
A no clutch start is an off roading trick to get moving from a standstill. You are effectively using the starter motor to get the vehicle moving with the vehicle in gear and the engine off initially. I can be smoother than launching with the clutch.
Also if you stall during a stream/river crossing with the transmission bell housing in the water, pushing the clutch usually lets some water/mud in which you don't want in your clutch.
I've been waiting for this video !!! Heck yeah. I own a '21 SR5. So, I won't be buying a Tacoma anytime soon but happy to see what's out.
Awesome honest review I appreciated your work on this one thanks 🙏
Holy shit finally a review where we actually see these trucks in motion. The reviews of them sitting stationary were getting super old
Nice vid Ryan. That is a pretty capable looking truck right out of the box.
"I like big ditches and I cannot lie" I almost spit out my water LOL
Well done video, I’m not a 4x4 kind of guy, but this video was certainly very informative..I still like to know what’s available in different trim options. And for another 1k more, I’d definitely get the auto vs the manual of if I needed 4x4.
I’ve driven a manual for 30 years . Automatic for me 👍🏼.. This was a great review. Thank you. I can’t wait for that solar orange trd sport.
Front cameras seem really nice, and I wish I have one. As a FJ Cruiser owner who tends to go offroad solo with that big hood, I usually just have to get out, look at the obstacle, take a mental note of where I plan to put my tires, and off I go.
I have the same problem on my 4Runner. What I’ve done that seems to work OK is I have a garmin dash cam mini 2. I use my dash mounted iPhone as a poor man’s MTM system. It works but a poor substitute for the stock cameras
Great vid. I'm definitely hanging on to my '21 TRD Pro for a few more years.
17 Till it dies
Lmaooo. 21 also for me. The more info I see about the 4cyl turbo the less I want one 😂😂
This is the off-road truck that I dreamed for. As long as Toyota constructed the 19.375” rock pile that I crawl over and a dude in a black baseball cap/jacket gives me hand signals over the 6 feet stretch of rock. I am completely confident.
My first Toyota truck, in 1985, was a 4 speed manual, with 22R motor, fantastic truck
Nice video. I regularly watch your videos so no surprise that you like the electronic off-road features. You kept asking why crawl control and MTS are not included with the manual transmission and even the chief engineer gave too broad an answer. It seems simple that the electronics cannot physically control the clutch pedal and the stick-shift lever, therefore those features would not work with a manual. But I hope in about a year to buy a new Tacoma, definitely with manual transmission, and hopefully with TRD Off-Road trim if they are really available.
I’d like a review from someone who drives stick on a regular basis. Maybe a comparison to older manual tacos. Cheers, great video! 🔥
The clutch cancel start button is for when you are stuck off road, you can start in gear with your foot on the brake pedal
The harsh noise of crawl control system is completely gone, it works very smooth and silent like range rover, that's really good improvement.
Dang that's a sexy truck! Great job Ryan and team.
Serious question? How does anyone afford a new car? There’s no way.
If you owned the manual for a while and learn the clutch maybe put a short throw shifter in it you can crawl just fine. Manuals used to be how you crawl before electronic assist systems made everyone soft and not learn and fail.
My thoughts exactly as well. Grew up with manual transmissions in offroad situations...low range 1st gear and you could crawl up and over anything, oftentimes without needing to touch the accelerator, and same going down a steep hill, no brakes at all, just low range and 1st gear and let it crawl.
@@wildbill23c Same here with my 2nd gen manual v6 4x4 OffRoad. I put a short throw shifter in and it's really nice, except for needing 2 hands to get into reverse (got used to it in a week). Putting it in 4 Low and just crawling in 1st without any throttle is really fun, and it's amazing how it just chugs along, or slips and eventually grabs, just like the automatic controls. It's really a significantly more engaging offroading experience with a clutch and a torquey naturally aspirated engine! Although a 2024 auto with the hybrid would be nice for fuel economy and the cameras while offroading...
Respect excellent review mate
Would love to hear your thoughts on the new Tacoma vs. the outgoing 4Runner gen in a future video (and your preference!). I enjoy your thorough reviews and you taking us along for the journey. Thanks!
Clutch Start Cancel, is great in offroad situations...the torque of the starter alone can help you slowly crawl up and over an obstacle....the better use and intended use is starting on a hill if you are offroad, and you've stalled a manual equipped vehicle on a steep hill, you know how nerve racking that can be to try and get moving again...Clutch Start Cancel, allows you to leave the transmission in gear, and crank the engine and at the same time the truck will start moving forward and take off without the risk of rolling uncontrollably back down the hill trying to start the engine and hold the brakes, apply throttle, and release the clutch in a smooth manner and not roll backwards.
I've watched a few vids on the new Tacoma. This is the most comprehensive on the auto and manual. Driving an auto is against my religion. However its good to know what the manual is missing vs the auto. A-trac can compensate for crawl control and MTS to a certain extent, however not having the front facing camera may be a deal breaker for me and i may need to wait a year or two to see if they will add that in. I only drive manuals...
Manual for life or until I cannot drive it anymore. Then I go electric. The way electric work with the gas pedal is unique and cool. Automatic is just not part of my lifestyle.
FYI the no clutch start is very convenient offroad. If for example you get stuck on an uphill and want to come back down, it allows you to start in reverse with the gear engaged so you have engine braking righ away. Otherwise you would have to relese the clutch and have no engine brake untill you have released it completely
At least with a manual you don’t have to worry about anybody stealing it.
Most people can’t drive a manual.
😂
Wish that was true 😢
I've had 3 Toyota SUVs (4runner, FJC, 4runner) and 2 of them had all the then current gen offroad aids. I used them once each just to see if they worked and then promptly forgot about them. I've never been in any situation where 4lo and a locker can't get me through. Driving modes I get, having a 'package' of a throttle map and whatever 4wd features you're gonna use so you don't have to hit 15 buttons and knobs is great. Think Baja Mode on Raptors. But the self driving stuff not so much.
“I like big ditches and I cannot lie “🤣🤣 luv it
How’s the seating position compared to previous gen? 6’3” here and hated the old ones seats
Baby Tundra looks great. Can't wait when You take it on your off-road course. Greetings
I love your intro so good :) I’d get pro just standard no add ons for 42kish
Add $10k
Came from a 2016 Tacoma auto then got a 2022 WRX because i wanted a fun manual vehicle. I just might go with the 24 6 speed Tacoma.
I have a 2022 tacoma v6 4x4. My main complaint is fuel range. I can go around 300 miles and need to fill up, I have a f150 4x4 v6 and it has a extended range fuel tank I ordered as a option, I can go 600 miles per tank and 400 towing, so if there was 1 improvement I would like to see a bigger fuel tank for trips,Towing and offroad, Its a huge difference when towing and nice to have .
I like how they have the guy who hasn’t drove a manual in a decade reviewing the MT Tacoma. 😞
I remember the days when compact trucks were less expensive than compact cars. Times have certainly changed.
I’m sold.. can’t wait to get mine
Nice truck & with pricing, the Tacoma will remain a solid No. 1 in the segment
Is this the RC62F manual 6-speed from previous years carried over?
Great video!
Hey Ryan? Will this manual transmission Taco, take 87octane? or will it require 91?
Great review as always Ryan, you're really makin the new Taco look good. Personally though, I can't wait for the new 4Runner to "potentially" come out with the manual again, I'd trade my '17 Tacoma 6 speed for one in a heartbeat.
Where did you hear the 4runner may be coming with a manual? I have a manual FJ and may actually be interested if true.
@@Twigz11heard the same rumor and will rather wait for a manual 4Runner than the Taco. Plus waiting on three dealers to call me when get get the first manual Tacomas. If the mark it up much, they can keep it…
0:58 The Frontier doesn't deserve that. It's a great, capable, reliable truck. The only drawback is the turning radius. I'd put money on the current Frontier having more models on the road in the future than trucks driven by electronics
Thanks for a very comprehensive review specially on the manual model. I'm also old and grew up driving manuals but in busy traffic and when off-roading I definitely prefer an automatic transmission.
This is just getting me hyped for the 4runner
Thanks for the review. Every auto journalist should know how to drive a manual. Also, they should know that you can slowly let the clutch out in 1st gear and let the truck crawl....kinda like the CRAWL Control.....
Starts at only $41,000???Oh wow!! what a deal! I better get on over there as quick as I can to spend $40,000 to 48,000 of my future income.
The clutch cancel button is so you can start in gear, for example on a hill
That's weird they didn't include an A-trac button. I like to have the option of turning it on and off. The heated steering wheel seems very nice, and the cooled seats.
Thanks good review 🎉 one thing I cannot agree, we love manual because we feel young and love driving car but not old.
Can you keep the cameras on the screen at highway speeds or crawling only? At my job our large trucks cameras are on 24/7 on the center screen, it helps a lot. The fact my current car wont let me use the cameras in drive.
what's the MPG on the hybrid? I didn't hear you mention it. Thank you!
My 2001 Tacoma 4x4 Manual Trans has a "Clutch Start Cancel" - Yes it is to Start the Tacoma without Engaging the Clutch! This is for when you just wanna reach into the Tacoma to start it without actually climbing into the Truck just to start it in the Cold Weather to let it Warm up. I use it all the time in the Winter Months! A Remote Starter is not idea for a Manual Trans, so this is the next Best Thing - LOL!
You can have it all… unless you get the manual 😂. Good review as always.
Manual transmission vehicles should not have ANY kind of noise control. You drive with your ears as well as your other senses and after you've gotten used to your vehicle you tuned into the hearing. I have a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon 6MT and i hardly look at the tach in daily driving - just listen and shift. Great review and thank you!
Woah, such shade on the Frontier, the only basic 6-cyl affordable truck left.
Manual transmission is the ONLY way to give driver full control of the vehicle.
Manual transmission in professional hands becomes the smoothest way to get A to B in any conditions.
When a journalist does not know how to drive it, does not mean it is not good.
I have a 2022 tundra and I don’t like 10 speed automatic.
As someone who grew up driving manual I prefer manual over any automatic transmission.
I hope there will be a premium option for Manual transmission in terms of packaging.
Why don't they include a forward facing camera? Do the Tacoma competitors have forward cameras?
Thx for the video. Great that the 4th Gen is offering a Manual. As a 3rd Gen Offroad owner w/manual, really like most of the changes. However, the 4 cyl turbo is not for me. My $0.015, the 6 cyl NA motor is going to outlast the 4 cyl turbo. For that reason, going to hold onto my 3rd Gen
I'll buy Gen 3 if it 5K off of MSRP. The interior of the Gen 3 is soooo damn boring, and it was boring back when it was released in 2016. It looks just as bad as my 2002 Honda CRV manual. I bought that thing salvaged too.
I love manuals. 20 years ago I went to pick up my wife on our first date in my 1994 Nissan Pulsar GTIR.. She had to push while I clutch started the car 😂😂😂. I am still paying for that BTW😂😂
The no clutch start is very useful off-road. If you know, you know. 😉
Ryan, any updates on the Ford ranger review? Looking forward to see how they compare.
Clutch cancel start is the first version of A Trac. Put it in low start the vehicle in first gear and it will climb out of virtually anything. Been around predating the tacoma. Had it on my brand new 1994 1/4 ton toyota 😂. Only available in manuals of course
No 2WD rear locker makes me extremely happy. I was a little disappointed going with the TRD Sport in 6M because the lack of rear locker but realistically the only time I'd need it is for some 2WD fun lol
Is that dashboard screen led or have they gone with oled?
Good test, comparing the manual to the automatic. The different options you will get and the overall price difference.
It seems a new Tacoma Off-Road is better for me (dirt/gravel roads with a lot of ditches in Arizona) than a (newer) used 4Runner (about the same price range) 😅 Thanks for the great review!
Jeep and Bronco still offer a stick. 🙌
To be fair, my 3rd gen Tacoma had no issues keeping the seat up without the snap.
I can’t wait for the hybrid version 🎉
The frontier is still around? I mean, is only 2 model years old.
great review, can't wait for you to get your hands on a trd pro, which I hear is wider than other tacoma models but it is not wider because of more suspension travel it is wider because of cosmetics like fender flares and wheel offset. The trd pro has the same upper and lower control arms as all other tacoma models so the wider track really is cosmetics not performance like a ranger raptor
Great video! Having grown up driving manual transmissions in a Land Rover Series 2 and a Land Cruiser FJ60, manual transmissions on road are huge fun but but off-road are horrible. I absolutely love an auto for anything off-road.
The no clutch start or clutch start cancel button prevents slippage as you start uphill.
Did you notice if the reverse gear is beyond tall on the 6 Speed? I have a 2009 4.0L 6 speed, and reverse is terrible tall.. Like burn it out in a steep reverse grade kind of tall.
“And Nissan, well let’s just say the frontier is still around.”
😂😂😂 I love how the Honda Ridgeline isn’t even mentioned 😂
He actually likes them. I did too so I bought one and it had tons of problems. Traded it on a Frontier and have no regrets.
@@WhiteSubie that’s interesting 🤔.
I’ll keep my 15 mt for now…but thank you to Toyota for keeping my opinions open to obtain a mt without a lot of automatic transmission influenced computer interference!