SOME TIPS FOR RIDING ICE
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- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2023
- Just some thoughts I had on riding ice. I've been crazy busy and the conditions have been poor, but I'll be back to filming some proper stuff soon!
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Here are some tips from a snowboarder who grew up snowboarding on East Coast Canada where the run is literally a skating rink is 1. always FIND THE TEXTURE! 2. don't go fast like you would on groomed run, I made that mistake years ago trying to beat my speed record and BOOM, slipped and broke my tailbone and ended my Season early. 3. avoid the middle section of the run because that's where most skiers or boarders go down, hence, all the snow are pushed to the side, so always board on the side. 4. wear a freaking ass pad so you don't break your tailbone.
Fellow east coaster. I love the run edges on icy days. Little powder piles from everyone going down the middle.
Blue Mountain?
@@Faust598 You guessed it!
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The 4th one must be the most important. It's strange that not many people in NA have these kind of protection pads.
It is always lovely to run into the solid ice covered by 1mm of caster sugar....
I live in Sweden, and 70% of the days we get hard conditions and ice... The best tip in my experience is to buy a board with edge disruptions (li.e. ib, Gnu, Jones, YES) huuuuuuge difference, these boards are ice specialists, never slip and never fall after riding these boards. And of course, a good technique as Malcolm shows. Good video!
This is why your channel is so good - riding icy conditions is never sexy or fun but it's definitely real world. I was in the Alps a month ago and most of the time there had icy conditions (no fresh snow either) so this video is super helpful.
I live on the USA East coast and can confirm that there are plenty of icy conditions to contend with.
Keep up the great videos Malcolm!
Thanks so much!!
Tell me you've never ridden the East Coast, without telling you've never ridden the East Coast.
Malcolm: "its gonna be very, very rare to have a completely sheet ice piste"
more like: "its gonna be very, very rare for it to NOT be completely sheet ice piste" 🤣
😀Ice, that's not ice. When you go arse-over-tit and don't stop until you hit something, then you sit up and brush the dust off the top, and you have that Foxes Glacier Mints solid blue shining back at you... that's ice. That's also when you invest in a crash pants!
*Ice Coast riders have entered the chat*
Great tips, Malcom!! Texture hunting is a life saver on icy runs.
Absolutely!
Malcolm talking about the East Coast, didn't know I was in this video haha. We're just built different ;) Once we're in amazing conditions we just crush it.
This video is perfect timing. I taught myself how to snowboard this year and the snow where I’m at has been fantastic the entire year. In the last week though it all turned to ice and I feel like I’m right back where I started a few months ago (just with a lot more bruises).
If you can break out the stiff, full camber board for the hard pack / ice days it makes a massive difference.
To me it doesn’t matter how good I become, I find it best to just respect Mother Nature and not try to push and take risks on ice, I just take it slow and not pick up to much speed. Another thing, someone mentioned breaking their tailbone, always wear protective gear, ie, helmet, elbow pads, knee pads, and Last but not least, a butt pad to protect those hips and tailbone. I find the solid knee pads are better than the soft ones. I fell on ice and still bruised me knee with soft knee pads, use the hard ones.
You just never know when you’re going to catch an Edge and it’s always better to have some protection than none at all. Awesome video Malcolm, Great tip for riding the sides on the trials too, there’s usually more snow and less ice on the sides of the slope on an icy day.
Thanks a lot, Malcom! I've been waiting so long for your tips on how to ride in icy conditions. Appreciate it!
Happy to help!
Malcolm you're the best! Spent all my free time during the ski-trip watching your videos and working on my posture. Every time I went downhill I always reminded myself to keep my shoulders in line with the board and always stick to going in the S shape, it's harder than it seems and going back into old habits is very easy if you don't pay attention. Watching you do these things so effortlessly really motivates me to keep improving and hopefully become more confident going down the mountain.
Oh and I'm very happy that these videos aren't just another bro-ey generic snowboarder dude by a guy in his mid 30's that refuses to grow up. But by an actual adult that really loves the sport and wants others to do the same. Sorry it came off a little rude but you really are unique in the snowboarding videos that I've been looking at.
bro-ey generic snowboarder dude by a guy in his mid 30's 🤣
Malcolm sounds like a trained instructor. His language is very specific. He is good and just a different style than other channels.🤘🏽
Thanks 😊😊 and also lol
I came across this video after falling down around dozen times on the icy ground, and it was my first experience of this kind and I couldn’t understand what am I doing wrong… and this video really helps and explains that and how to fix it, thanks a million! Going to be practising the exercises tomorrow 🙏
Finally someone does a good video on how to ride ice! Couldn't find anything decent anywhere else. Great work! Interesting point about thin vs wide boards.
Cheers Dan, hope to see you up there today!
These are unluckily the most common conditions in Spain, so very helpful video! Painful to learn but it's actually very good to pick up the technique right. After that, any kind of snow looks amazingly easy.
I’m wondering, do you do your snowboard maintenance yourself? When so, could you do a video on waxing and edge tuning for those off days? Since you’re mentioning a lot that your edges are key in most situations. Like in this video on icy slopes, or on how to avoid tripping on your edges.
THANK YOU!! You have single handedly taught me to snowboard and this video is so helpful living on the East Coast. There was literally no snow near me this year and the whole season it was pure slush or ice. Your videos are the only reason I survived - thank you for your amazing content!! Your videos are so easy to digest and truly remember and learn from.
Thank you so much!!
Great video! The knife demo was a very good illustration. I love how you record an entire video in just one go. Very good teaching skills and great preparation evidently.
Thanks, sometimes when you loose your train of thought 5 minutes in it can be very frustrating!
@@malcolmmoore Yeah, I'm used to teach people with slides to aid me and keep the train of thought in check, but when you just keep riding and teaching in such a cohesive, logical and interesting way, that's great work, great preparation and execution!
Gawd, I'm crap in icy conditions. My whole body tenses and I almost go into beginner mode as I await a sliding fall. 😭
Yeah happens to the best of us 🥴
As someone who loves to carve, I found myself continuing to try to lean in turns on the icy stuff. But keeping my weight deliberately right above the board helped so much! It means if the board skitters you don't immediately sit or kneel down (or fall fiat on your face! ) and helps increase the edge pressure as you're pushing the board straight *down*.
And as you said, squat!
I also find that if squatting on the toe edge starts to lift the edge, drive the rear knee towards the snow.
Such an informative video. Plenty of techniques and tactics! Thank you!
Thanks for watching 🙏
Watch where you're going and maintain good fundamentals in difficult times. What an explanation! You truly speak and teach from experience. And then flex with one single take.
My partner and i are out now in the Swedish mountains at -25c. Things are definitely icy and we had to result to long plows down the long steep hills. Fearing the loss of edge and sliding down on our backs/bellys.
Tomorrow we will look for less incline and hopefully less ice. But this will help us train our fundamentals to better combat the hill.
This is my go-to channel for any snowboard advice. Keep up the good work 🏂👍
Thank you so much!! Enjoy the Swedish mountains, hope you find some less icy slopes 🏂😊✌️
Nothing like good ole New England/PA ice boarding. #sarcastic 😂 strong advice!! Have fun!!
New England can be %$£@"8&$ brutal.
Sitting in the hotel in Austria after a day snowboarding on ice, looking at this video to help me get through the next days.
Thanks for your tips!
Ouch, good luck, it's never going to be great on ice though I'm afraid!
I had this today! Hope it will be better tomorrow. Couldn't even do turns because of Ice blocks
Thankyou for this Malcolm; practicing in Romanian this season and this video helps a lot! I have a request for you: could you do a video on drills to get comfortable with speed? I enjoy making short turns on steeps a lot but on flats, while i can make long turns, i tend to brake hard as soon as i pick a little speed. I would be very grateful if you could help me and other riders at my level get over this hurdle! Thankyou!
Just read a report of lots of ice in the 3 valleys (we are going on Saturday) and then this video pops up.
Your timing is impeccable again sir!
Courchevel is where the best snow is ;)
I went there on 21st January (just after several days of snow), so I timed it right. However since then it's hardly had any fresh snow, until that is, the last few days when it's dumped a significant amount, so hopefully you'll be fine. 👍.
We've just had some snow, and they will have too, temps are going up alot over the weekend, but it should still be pretty good 👍
Thank you❤ this was really helpful
Awesome 🙏
Right on time. I'm in Kaprun right now and the lower pistes are iced up in the morning because of high temps and rain.
Never ride with a knife in you pocket😂.Thank you Malcolm for another great video.
😂😂 yup good advice
Man the mountains in the back! Absolutely amazing.
Yeah these views 🙌🙌🙌
Welcome to the ice (east) coast in Canada!
Thanks for the great tips. Will be out in ADH 18th and it looks like you just had some snow so hoping that holds for when I get there
Yes we finally had snow 🙌🙌
I'm from East Coast US, and I wish you did teachings out here, I've watched many of your vids and you seem to be all about just wanting to increase the love for the sport and activity where most people out here have been super terrible for the most part. First time I ever went snowboarding was out in PA (Pocono I believe it was ~10 yrs ago) with a buddy and we hit the mountain on the first week of the season. Gave me some tips on the bunny for a few mins and then we went up, had zero idea the ice was so bad here due to it being soft where I practiced for the few minutes. About 10 mins into it for my first time, hit a nasty ass edge and shattered my wrist. Sadly I haven't ever touched it since although would love to find a proper teacher who loves it like yourself. Feel that's probably a huge difference maker.
The best ice is moonscape in the spring or bulletproof after a thaw and freeze cycle ( day to night skiing), don't forget your earplugs and mouthguard. All of your points help, key thing is stay stacked over your edge with proper body positioning, maintain an even pressure on your edge, glide through your turn. It also helps if you are pulling a sled (chain engaged) with a patient ; )
This looks like a good day out here in Eastern Canada (especially here in Ontario). I've seen Blue Mountain freezing into a literal skating rink.. impossible to get any edge or carving in..
Fellow Ontario boarder here! It's my first season and I exclusively go during night hours for the refreeze. The conditions in the video look amazing to me bc I've only ever known ice...
ya, i ride blue regularily - have a 5x7. i laughed out loud when i saw this being considered ice. i wish this was "icy"!
Good Video - good tipps ❤
Thanks 😊
I find magne-traction to be the biggest game changer for ice for me. I have whatever the Rossignal equivalent is, and it doesn't make ice pleasant, but it does allow you to turn and slow down in places you normally would slip out, which on the ice coast that can be 80% of the run on a bad day.
hi malcolm. we were snowboarding on the other side of the mountain at Les Sybelles last week. we had rain in the evening until midnight and some snow early in the morning. the worst conditions possible. the rain melted the slopes, the cold of the night freezed the slopes and the snow covered the ice. in the morning everything was hard ice covered by some snow. skidding was taking forever before stopping.
always be prepared, sharpen the edges if needed. and rocker boards don't really help in this situations
This is pretty much the only type of condition we get in the northeast of the U.S. 😅 thanks for the tips
Broke my AC joint in my shoulder last week falling on an ice pack. Here are some of what i've learned from that. 1. Get the right gear for the conditions. Not saying i have fallen cause of my snowboard but it was a rental piece of shit that did not have sharp edges so it definitly does not help. A board with magne-traction would have helped a lot. 2. Wear protections even if you're advanced. ice is no joke. 3. play according to the condition. this year i only had the chances to go snowboard two weeks so i pushed it a lot even tho the conditions were not great and boom i crashed. go slower even if it a small season for you, it will be better than injuring yourself. Thanks ✌
hey, i work and ride in a mountain near yours and i just hope you got fresh snow as we did this week
thanks for the tips !
Yes we did! Rode powder today 🙌🙌
I've been hoping you would do something on riding ice. Thank you!!
No problem ☺️👍
After spending a week snowboarding on ice in val d'isere I really wish I found this video sooner 😂 Thanks for the vid Malcolm
Same conditions here...
Had it during a whole week always at the end of the day (tired) and a part I couldn’t avoid going home. Hated it. Rocked my confidence hard to the point I just wasn’t having fun anymore.
Yeah ice really sucks 😔
I had a great time at stowe this past march. You should come to NE, something about the low ley bed and breakfast places the new england towns its a whole different experience. March is the new best month to depend on. Used to be february. Hopefully it is again w el nino setting in
Hey Malcom, do you have any other suggestions about tuning snowboard edges? Like how often should you do it and what angles are best for different styles of riding (skidding, hard carving,...)?
Thank you for another great video! 🏂
Fair advice. What I need to know is how to handle those slush pisted runs which freeze overnight into corrugated hell. Wait until afternoon when the skiers have scraped some slushy off? When I see you doing it I'll believe it.
Magnetraction helps but you have to be aggressively edging with some speed to make the most of it on ice and that's when losing it starts to hurt! You don't often have access to traction edge profiles on rental gear.
Good tips as usual, but like you said, I was hoping for the silver bullet of a secret technique, which i already knew wasn't available. I had 3 trips last season, all of which were really icy, so much so I had a crisis of confidence that I'd forgotten how to board at all. Thankfully I was In France over New Year in fresh pow & all the love came flooding back. Off to Switzerland next week & it's looking good to go there too, so hopefully no ice techniques needed.
Yeah fingers crossed for fresh snow!!! Really changes everything
Coastal BC deals with ice, given our milder weather it really depends where the freezing level is. Especially if your night riding and all the runs get soft in the sun, then as soon as the sun goes down the temperatures plunge to freezing and it's mostly ice. I wish they groom for night skiing but they don't. I bruised my ribs once going like 3km/h, LOL, I was coming to a stop but came on top some ice and my board just slipped underneath me and I was parallel to the ground for a split second and landed on my front and I had the wind knocked out of me for a few minutes.
I haven't done night riding since. This was 2020.
Thanks for the tips mate. On my second day of snowboarding I went down a black diamond, it was pretty easy. (No i did not slide down 😂)
Good posture is key, equal pressure is key, getting down low is key, keeping your turns nice and smooth is key, Malcome Moore is key
Needed this before going to an icy alpe d’huez last week! 😅
Ah yeah bad timing, just had some snow finally here now..
East Coast US snowboarder here. We get lucky some days but the ice is notorious.
I can always learn new stuffs from your channel, thanks!
Could you talk about the tips riding the T-bar (J-bar)? I believe there’s certain technique for it. Thank you~~
Also, thanks for making this video. It’s quite useful during this season in northern hemisphere!
ruclips.net/video/YR-Y7_PT5M0/видео.html 👍
@@malcolmmoore oops! Thanks~
Hi Malcom very nice to show what to do on icy slopes. So what do you do when you lose grip all together? I was in schladming last week, not really icy but I lost my grip on a slope and because it was still very unriden very smooth (those nice ripples after the piste bully) I sored down on my bottom. (And crashed into the ice edge of the piste but that is not my point) how can I slow myself down in such a position, no lose snow and no buckles yet… love your videos and learning all the time.
Hey Malcolm do you ever fall from your snowboard? When i started catching an edge on a mellow slope was painful, now i'm intermediate and i almost feel likes it's part of the sport, and if i am not fallling two-tree times per day It means i'm not pushing myself hard enough, could you do a video on avoiding injuries/mindset & so on?
We just got 17 cm of snow on the east coast (West Virginia)! First time experiencing natural pow... although not super deep 😁
Had a different experience with narrow boards on icy pistes. It might be easier to tilt over, but on really steep icy pistes your toe "drag" will just lever your board off the piste if there is now snow but just plain ice. Had to opt for a wider board *and* go for a duck stance to not get wiped out regularly on steep (60%+) icy pistes. Yes, you could just go slower so you do not have to lean in the board so hard, but who wants to do that 🙂
Boards or skis, it doesn't matter. Sharpen your edges to razor sharp. Stay near the edges of the slope if you can, and do everything slowly and with deliberation. Once you have mastered ice, your overall skiing will massively improve.
Hit Tahoe last weekend after a rainstorm, it was ICY AF, my brother teased me for squatting quite a bit lol, I am glad to see that was one of your recommendations....
Haha, yeah, cold temps after rain is the worst!
@@malcolmmoore It was downhill, on a frozen pond with a half inch of snow on it lmao.... super sketchy :)
I had to rewatch this after opening night on man made ice ..... errr snow. I find I'm constantly pushing just a little too hard on steeper icy runs to get an edge in a sometimes it's just not going to happen.
Every bad wipeout the last few years have been hitting icy patches on my toe edge. Board slides out and I face plant or break a wrist or slam my knees. I assume I am just riding too upright on my toe edge for those conditions. For me, it is almost easier knowing the whole slope is rock hard. When you are riding as if conditions are good and then hit ice, the slams are real!
Hi Malcom , we’re off to chamonix tomorrow and I think it may be a little icy. So thanks for tips . Also I think it would help if you let us know what level slope you’re filming on .
Cheers Ben
East Coast: oh, you’re just learning and decided to learn on my slopes… I see you have chosen death… shall we begin?
Hahaha 🫠
My friends call me "The Ice Hound"... we had a 5" powder day, there was run we kept lapping which was pretty windblown in spots. I kept "seeking" out the ice so carve the crusty stuff. It's true, I love the hard stuff :D
Hi Malcolm, great video. Question: I have a Travis Rice Pro HP Blunt 2020 and have been boarding for 20 years on and off, I ride goofy and wondered if you have any tips on binding width and angle. I am 178cm and 88kg.
My local ski hill got a great early start for the season, but last weekend had a couple of warmer days that turned the soft snow into ice. Like you said I was hoping for a magic solution, but I guess it just means I'll need to ride differently and have less fun.
Yeah, unfortunately!
Subtle funny video edits are also key
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You’re a very very good instructor and your technique helped me a ton on my first day of snowboarding bro, although from time to time, you look like Tommy Fury to me 😂
Haha not sure about that but I'll take it 😜
this looks like great carving conditions 😃
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US Ice Coast rider here. I do believe we have the iciest conditions. I wish you could do this tutorial here. Funny thing is, today was probably the worst ice I’ve ridden, and this video was the first thing RUclips recommended to me after getting back. 🤔 It knows.
You're not selling it to me haha!
Thanks for this. Riding ice is horrible, but it's a fact of life. And for a lot of people (myself included), who can only go on a trip once a year, that may be the reality of your week, so you just have to deal as best you can!
Regarding magne-traction: I'm not a fan either, I also find it grabby. However, I LOVE Jones boards. They use 'traction-tech' which is a mellower version (3 point rather than 5). It still gives me extra grip on ice, but it's never felt grabby to me (I have 3 Jones boards, and have tried 3 others, lol). And they have spoon, so less catchy too :)
Timely tutorial video. Thanks. +2C this AM and drizzle/frizzle. Temp slowly dropping. Now heavy wet snow. 15-20cm forecasted. Forecast is for low -11C and high of -4C. Guess it will be at best real hardpack. At worst. ICE. Beats rain and slush.
Yeah didn't want to have to make an ice video but had to be done this season! Fingers crossed for more snow next year!!
I have trouble getting clean carving on toeside, please make a video specificly on toeside maby?? :)
You are insane dude, i can't even stand on ice
Lol thanks 😂
Is this the new nidecker gamma you're riding here? Perhaps you do a review on it? How does it ride?
Whats causing the skidding on the steeps, I had to deal with that today? Also yea its taking me a while to make that edge change from front side skidding to heal side, but more I do the better I get use to it.
Re knees out - what if you’re riding a cambered board or one of the yes range with tapered MidBite?
2:15 the stitch line made me think the ground shook under him :o
One tip for people who are comfortable snowboarding. Make sure the edges of your board are sharp. You can sharpen them relatively cheaply at a nearby store. It makes a world of difference and makes it so much more enjoyable to board anywhere.
True dat
Thanks for the vids, been watching them after each day of snowboarding in alp dhuez this week. The last couple of days I hit some reds slopes and if I come to a stop on the slope I find it difficult to get going. I feel like to go from stationary to the first edge change the board has to point straight down the slope and it never feels stable and I often fall. Once I get going and traverse then I can make the early edge changes much easier. Any suggestions? Thanks
From the stop you'll need to push your front hip (so if you're regular the left side of the hip) over the board which will allow the left knee to bend over the board releasing grip and pivoting the board. The back hip and knee can follow after, but this separation between front leg to back leg is key to being able to move on from a standstill. 👍
Libtech magne traction is best for icey slopes.
East coaster here in US aka icecoast. One of my biggest keys I've learned is to go straight over ice, don't try to turn and especially don't side slip. That's a recipe for slipping out.
Unfortunately magne traction isn't really a gamechanger on ice, don't ask me how I know. Anyway you've got some good 🔑points there 😉
This would be good conditions in the NE US
Nice tips, thanks! Is this new Nidecker Gamma? How do you find it in this particular icey condition? And wouldn't a stiffer full camber board perform better?
Yeah it's surprisingly good, but yes, the apx will likely be better. However as an asym powder board the regular gamma appealed to me more, I wasn't really factoring overall edge hold into my decision between the two!
I was wondering if that was the Gamma! I’ve been looking at it but worried about boot out with my size 11, but I think Malcom wears a size 12? Makes me confident to pull the trigger on the board
Good edges is probably 80% of it with the remaining 20% for smoother control of my board. I don't even bother anymore going on ice without perfect edges
Sei er meio ! Da Roma 🇮🇹
Malcom: "Nobody likes icy conditions" Me: *Laughs in Hardbooter*
Hey Malcolm, I’m curious how this compares with the down unweighted turns? I tried those on icey conditions in Austria last weekend and it completely revolutionised my riding! First, thanks for that. Second, I was carving on ice sometimes and had complete control on ice. I practiced these up unweighted turns earlier, so I will try that on ice too but the control of the down unweighted turns seemed unmatched. Cheers
In very icy conditions I find the down unweighted aren't as good, as you're trying to get grip that just isn't there. Its so difficult to quantify how icy a piste is, but essentially this is about turning a skid into grip, which you'll need to do when it is very icy. If you're able to drop down, push against the board and have it grip, awesome - however if its too icy for that then I would do more of the above methods. But ultimately if you're riding better by doing something, then you're doing something right
@@malcolmmoore Thanks for that clarification! I can imagine I encounter iceyer conditions in which this works better. Can’t wait to use it. Hope you never stop dropping a video once in a while. Alpes D’uez is on my list to visit just to be able to receive lessons from you. Letsgo
How's the Nidecker Gamma? Opinions on asymmetrical boards in general? I don't like the idea of different sidecuts but never tried
I had the Yes The Greats before and I LOVED having an asymmetric board. Carving heel side was so damn easy. I was able to carve heelside switch better than most people toes side
Day 12 last season after losing a lot of snow to rain I thought I was a hero riding hard completely lost it carving way too hard as I hit ice beneath the snow ploughed through barriers and broke 3 ribs - end of season it took about 10 weeks to come right and slept on the couch on my back for 6 weeks. Recommendation- ride to the conditions don’t try to be a hero like me and driving my sorry ass home in pain with my tail between my legs 🤙
This is a regular day in New Jersey
Oh man 🥴🥺
Hi Malcom, I’m a beginner and have been using your videos alot to get better! I’ve improved alot trough your videos, but one thing I constantly struggle with is skidding after turns, especially from heel-edge to toe-edge. I feel like my back leg is not following along, and no matter how much I try to focus on leaving that thin line on the snow and using the knee streering method, I always just drag my board from edge to another to almost full stop. It’s hard to maintain speed as well. Any tips?
I have exactly the same problem, especially on steeper slopes. I can hold the heel-edge quite good but after doing a heel-to-toe-turn I start skidding a lot and loose the flow. I find it hard to control my speed if I try not to skid so much on my toe edge but If I skid on my toe edge I often slow down more than I actually want to.
@@trixn4285it could be you're rushing your turn. In some of Malcolm's videos he talks about where to apply pressure on turns and doing it too early can ruin it. You may also be just instinctively over rotating your upper body dragging you more into the turn faster and sooner. I struggle with the same on steeper parts because the instinct is to turn quickly to cut speed. That's part of the progression to get comfortable with a bit more speed so that even when your trying to turn faster, you're not turning too fast that you skid or even end up in a board slide.
Also check your angle, perhaps you're not tilted enough for the speed of turn your trying to do so you end up pushing the board to turn.
I personally find that wider boards are better on ice. While it takes more effort to make edge changes, it gives you more finesse. Plus, having your weight further back from the edge puts more pressure on the edge when you engage it, giving you better grip.
I'm not sold on that theory, but at least you're having success with it!
But the wider the board the more flex out from the foot/binding ptressure point and why a narrower board bites better. That's physics, more direct and more stable pressure,, off course if you feel it gives you confidence with a wide platform then that's ok. The best way is to ride a carving race board, they edge even on ice like a train if you have the control ability
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I can see conditions haven’t improved much in Alpe d’Huez since our lesson last week!
We just had some snow finally!! Rode powder today 🙌
Hard snow does no favors for beginners, that's for sure. Speaking from experience. Many gets deterred from coming back because they don't know the difference between powder and hard snow, and falling on them is prime discouragement.
Yeah exactly this 👆👆
Yep east coast or ice coast snowboarding
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I encountered a sheet ice slope which was about 100meters, I said no way. Lucky there was a chair lift I just went past. Booted out and walked back up (this was at the end of the day, I was too tired to tackle that) some times u just gotta play it safe.
I did the same exact thing once. A steep slope that's just a wall of ice is not worth it no matter how short.
Yeah good decision nothing wrong with playing it safe
additional tip: get a board with a cambered profile and a directional shape. Went from a Salomon Assasin Twin Tip to an Amplid Morning Glory and the difference in grip is huge
Yeah, also most salomon boards have a pretty crap sidecut that won't help, the dancehaul is pretty decent though
I have a 2015 Assassin, one reason I hardly ride it is because it's lousy on hard pack (and flat basing). I would have hoped they improved it, but others on the internet complain about the same problems with recent models.
@@ejhayes76 second weekend on my amplid morning glory and couldnt be happier, still can reccommend to give it a try. Not only the grip on firm piste, also turn initiation, and best of all the surfy feel in slushy snow. The salomon is fine for what it is, but i needed sth different
@@QuarktaschemitSenf cool. Amplid's have a good reputation. Unfortunately, they're hard to find to demo, at least where I am in the Western US. I'm reluctant buying anything without riding it first.