How To Snowboard Steep Terrain | Beginner guide
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Do you ever find yourself on a steep run and don't know how to snowboard down? In this video, I give you some pointers that should make riding steep terrain more fun and way easier. I hope you enjoy and don't forget to join my livestreams on Tuesdays at 7pm MST
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First step: Never skip leg day...
Yooo
I never skip leg day ya lil bitch.... Yorky....
Forreeallll🤣😭
Snowboarding day is my leg day
every day on the steeps is leg day 😅🙌🏽
I could watch this guy board for hours. I'm definitely not even close to that level (haven't even made it to an actual mountain yet!) but I'm eager to get back out on the slopes and practice. It's sooooo addicting!
As usual, great content that is easily digested. Thanks!!!
Use your entire body when you snowboard. from your soul to your sphincter.
You'll never go wrong.
Excellent video! Thanks! Which board size you use? We have the same height at 5'5 and probably slightly different weight. 👍
Especially on steeper terrain. I’m new but decent on my edges. I just have a hard time getting my board facing back downhill when I’m going across the hill. How can I fix this?
My problem with steep runs is not that I can’t do them, but That they just aren’t as fun or smooth as those groomed blue runs where you can carve without building up too much speed, is there a specific way to be able to carve on these kind of runs or is it just about practice?
Snowboarders version of chrisfixx
Awesome advice Tommie! I've been getting use to some steep terrain again this season. It gets your heart pumping for sure!
Go snowboardprocamp
Love the support from different channels!!!! The snowboarding community is amazing
i guess it's pretty off topic but does anybody know of a good website to watch new movies online ?
@Colin Braden flixportal xD
@Andy Shepherd Thanks, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I appreciate it!
the point your buddy, sam, makes about keeping weight over the front foot is critical for fast turn initiation on steeps. your mind tells you to lean back because you are "falling" but once I got over that and maintained a perpendicular stance (vs. leaning on the back foot) it was a game changer for control on steep terrain
Agreed. It’s the fear that keeps you from committing to that stance but one you get comfortable with it you really feel the control
@@tommiebennett cheers dude, thanks for your vids!
Going into the turn you should be over the front foot but coming out of the turn you need to shift your hips and the weight a little bit on the back because if you're going to be too front coming out of it, you're going to wipe out. And keep vertically medium... Not too high and not to low. And that doesn't mean hinging at the waist which a lot of people do.
Tommie's emphasis on putting weight on the front foot really helped with reducing the strain on the back inner thigh by a lot too. Small but substantial difference
THE reply there. All true!
I just went to Wisconsin today to snowboard. I haven’t done snowboarding in 23 years bc I had a horrible experience when I was 9. I’ve been frantically watching your videos this past week and your videos have saved me from wiping out multiple times today! I owned that hill today. Thank you so much!!
Congrats on getting back on the mountain. What kind of changes did you make?
Do a vid of how to board on icey conditions, especially man made snow please, thank you, great content
All of these rules apply to boarding icy conditions and man made snow as well.
I second this!!
@@FesNaqvi Are you sure? He talks about "slamming on the breaks if you want to" - that is different on ice!
@@SuperGoonch Why can't you slam the brakes on icy or man made terrain? If you have proper balance and keep your knees loose, you should be stop instantly, regardless of the terrain you're on.
@@FesNaqvi If it’s really icy then it is usually better to stick to the groomed, softer terrain that has been exposed to the sun early in the day.
In rarer cases, the reverse can work sometimes too: if a slope is nearly always in the shade then the top layer of snow might not have been through the freeze-thaw cycle that tends to generate icy conditions.
Use your own judgement but pick the conditions that seem a bit more forgiving if you want to avoid the really icy stuff.
CONCLUSION
Grandmaster Ice is unquestionably one of the best teachers on the mountain. He can teach us better balance and control - and improve our fundamental skills and technique. In turn, he makes us a better and wiser rider when we get back on the softer snow. So be patient, relax and enjoy his council so you can appreciate the powder even more afterwards.
On steeps, the one thing that helps to initiate turns I notice for most people is the flex of the board on your front toe or heel edge. For your front leg, you can apply pressure to your heel side by raising your toes to your shins and to your toe side by bringing your knee to your toes. At this point, your back leg is not doing anything and you're basically using skidded turns with a low edge angle to complete the turn on either side.
Also, make sure to maintain balance, you don't stand straight up. Make your knees be shock absorbers. If on a scale of 1 to 10, while strapped in, 1 is sitting straight down and 10 is standing straight up with your knees locked, be about a 5. It will help you absorb chatter and bumps, regardless of the angle of the slope.
@@tommiebennett I am a fellow instructor. One of the things they teach us to teach about using C turns on slopes regardless of slope angle is using and shifting between adding forward and aft pressure during, in the middle and in the completion of the turn.
To initiate or start your turn, get low by bending your knees and really driving your front shoulder and front knee down the fall line. After your initiation of the turn imagine that you’re pushing the board away from your body by extending the legs but keep your knees bent. When you’re finished with your turn and your board is perpendicular to the fall line, bend your knees again so your body weight is closer to the snow and that will make it easier to initiate your next turn. When your board starts to chatter, it means that your body weight is too far back, Get your weight over the front foot and start your next turn.
How do you get comfortable with getting your board to go flat like the part 2 of a c turn? I can't wrap my head around how fast he turns. It looks like he's swinging the board around and I can't even begin to understand how to do that lol.
Watching him demonstrate the bad technique of standing too tall with knees locked and I literally said “omg that’s actually how I ride, no wonder I keep wiping out” 😭🥲 Thanks for the tips! I’ll definitely work on lowering my center of balance and keeping my body in an athletic stance next time I hit the slopes!
That will be a fitness thing - you stand up straight and rigid when you get tired. (Or at least I tend to).
I find that the toe side turn on steep terrain is easier to control my speed than the heel side where your facing down hill. I will usually shorten the heel side turn into more of a slash and then quickly transfer my weight to the front foot to initiate the toe side turn again to slow down to control my downhill speed. When you see boarders sliding down the hill it’s always on their butt. That’s because the heelside turn requires a lot more edge control.
You see much more boarders sliding down on their butt because it is harder to control a fall backwards. You can't push against the snow as well to not fall over, and when you do fall, your board will launch up at first and you need to use your core to bring it back down. When you fall on your front, you can always try to push yourself up with your hands, your board won't launch as easily up, and when it does, you use your thighs to bring it back down which is easier.
My toeside turn is actually the weakest right now, but I actually don't fall much because of it, because I can keep some kind of control with my hands and eventually stop or push myself back up and keep going.
good point!@@tibhamel
My two goals while boarding; Go as fast as possible and brake the whole time. It’s a paradox.
So, in short, be a gapper.
@@johnnicholson8345 that is mean. The internet is no place for being mean.
The only thing you’re doing is practicing your braking. You’ll never develop techniques if all you’re doing is braking
@@johnnicholson8345 it’s a joke.
@@KevAlberta j o k e
That was a dope ass jump at the end
4:18 that move was sick
How do you handle a double black diamond with woods . I found out at shanty creek its scary lol
Yewww
Haha ya I’d love to see some input on this.
Jump turns work best for me
Thanks these are always useful! I first started snowboarding at 29, and never hit the slopes before in any capacity. I've been a couple times since, but never enough, therefore, I still consider myself a relative noob. The slopes are closed down due to lockdown here right now, but I am working on my core and leg strength, as well as my ankle strength, and general balance and stability, so that I set myself up for success when I finally do get to hit the slopes. It makes it so much easier to be daring when I know I can trust my body.
Did you ever share what workout you do in prep for snowboard season?
beautifull do a videos of just snowboarding and no talking Just wanna see you snowboard learnt a lot from you cheers from sweden
I have changed from snowboarding to skiing. AND I REGRET DOING THAT. So what that means I haven’t been on a snowboard for 7 years. Now me watching other people snowboarding makes me wanting to go back
Bro, thanks so much for these videos. My 13yo son and I just started lessons last month, after 2 lessons and watching your videos, we finally conquered a diamond run at Holliday Valley in NY! Your tips have helped us both not only grow every time we ride, but also find our confidence. Keep up the great work!
Great points about reading the terrain. How about doing something regarding terrain that's steep and then flattens out.. Many beginners have difficulty maintaining enough momentum to make it past the flat part and some tips to keep from having to take a boot out and skate out of a low area. You're a legend yeww
When you get near the bottom just bomb it straight down so you can keep speed, only way you get stuck is by slowing down too much on the way down
Hey Tommie! Thanks for these videos! I teach at a small hill in the Midwest. I use your videos to improve my own riding, as well as come up with new techniques and word cues to improve my teaching. Awesome vids!
I’ve been working on exactly this. It feels to me though that Meadows blues are more like the blacks at other local resorts, I went to the resort next door on Tuesday and I felt like a total Boss ripping that terrain. I’m not a bug fan of nose down bombing runs. I prefer to keep my speed down and rip as many turns each run as possible!!!
I like to try going down by keeping my hands closer to my hips and lifting my back leg to help transfer the weight and pivot on my front foot.
Please make an icey conditions video! Here in NH, and by the time I make it to the mountain (after work), conditions usually suck. But I tolerate them anyway, but I struggle on icey diamonds to the point where I'm more comfortable going insanely fast down them instead.
I LOVE his videos, but he always sounds like he needed to `shout` to be heard well, even indoors, LMAO. Nice
This vid answered SO many of my problems on steep runs, thank u!
🙁 make large s curves . That will help you sustain moderate speed. Next run , shorten your s curves. Until you are comfortable with the particular slope. Several runs of it you will be ready to send it .
Would be good to have tips on how to fall on those runs. Sometimes falling is inevitable and the sensation I have is that I would never stop if I fall.
I’ve been lifting my back foot and swinging the tail out a bit, especially on moguls where I’m a little weightless on turn initiations. This really helps to get onto my toe edge on the really steep stuff. Is this a bad habit? Riding a stiff libtech that might be a couple of cms long.
Tommie has a way of breaking down the information for anyone to clearly understand. Always great videos.
Driving back from a week in Swedish snow with my family. As a 52 year old I love watching the tips and tricks. The videos helped a lot and put a smile on my face 😂
Just wanted to say thank you so much for teaching me how to snowboard for the past year as of today. I know to some this may sound funny to some but I am 💯 RUclips trained and mainly on your videos. I started snowboarding this time last year at 36 years old. I invested a lot of money just in my snowboard gear alone so I was all in. So I'm extremely on a budget so I don't have the money or friends to teach me. So I turn to RUclips and your videos came up and I've been following you every since. I have learned how to S turn, control my speed, carve, Heel pitch, toe pitch you name it. It's all thanks to you. I'm always at Loveland ski resort and it would be pretty awesome for you to be up there in a day when I am. My birthday is coming up on January 23rd love to see you there.
@2:54 I could hear the sound of how hard an icy that snow was, still I'm super jelly that you're out there making videos like this while I'm here in SoCal
Key to riding the steeps? Add 2 feet of powder 👍
So much this.
thats harder on really steep terrain though because its harder to push the snow around and link turns
PhaseSkater true, but powder slows you down and adds fluff to your falls.... nobody would choose a steep covered in ice over powder when it comes to difficulty
@@goodridevibes well yeah. i was just saying 3-6 inches for super steep is better than 2 whole feet. i was trying a 53 degree angle double black the other week with a ton of deep snow and it was scaring the crap out of me because any time i would link turns, it felt like a free fall and the snow was so deep that it was hard to do any quick turns or speed checks. it was like a wall of powder. now if its a black diamond grade of steep like 30-40 degrees, then i LOVE DEEP POW and blasting it thru it and floating and slashing
Great video. So what I'm hearing here is on a steep if you start hearing some cha cha cha chatter, immediately get lower, because you're probably not low enough
when i hit steep hills, part of my board get clipped on the snow and i flip out
Most of the time this is due to weight distribution. If you clip out in the back of your board you are leaning to the nose too much, same with clipping in the front of you board. Also: try to bend your knees and work with your hip to distribute your weight over your edges. Heel side turn: Make it feel like you are sitting in a chair, toe side turn: get your knees forward and straighten your back so that your spine is basically pointing at your front edge. On the slope you can get a feeling for this by going across the run and really try to exaggerate this movement. At home or off season you can practice this from time to time when you are standing...like when you are brushing teeth - move your hip and knees forward or try to sit in a chair without falling over.
@@AlexanderEngler thanks, cant wait for next season
Bro... first year with a season pass and going faster and down steeper runs is my hurdle right now. This was amazing! I think a big part for me is overcoming the fear. I’ve gotten better at keeping my weight forward, just a lot of time breaking and would like to go faster. Have gone up 12 times already to Big Sky and ready to crush it some more after watching your videos.
This is very informative. I’m a beginner trying to tackle the steeper slopes and you are helping me progress a lot. Thank you!
When I was learning to longboard down mountains, it was helpful to remember that staying on an edge and keeping pressure in that carving S shape will really help keep control of that board. If you go super straight down you're basically balanced straight up and down so any small bumps will throw your balance off to one side suddenly. The S shape will allow you to put pressure on one edge and that'll give you a wider and more stable stance to balance on. Snowboards have the added benefit of being able to control their speed a bit more since they are on snow instead of hard roads.
Thank you! I am new to snowboarding and would love a 2.0 focusing on speeding up. S curves/turning is good, but how do you make the S turns smaller while managing speed. In Stowe; VT, I felt that the runs were very narrow, which forced me into smaller S turns, but also I felt like I was on the edge of uncontrol.
This. At my home hill it’s narrow, steep as all hell with people zooming all around, even on the greens and blues. Wish I could practice my S turns on wide open relatively empty gentler slopes.
Just started snowboarding two weeks ago I'm 35 yesterday was my third time I got a little too confident as I was slowing down with my toes backwards but myself up.
My advice is just take it easy. Still it was one of the most fun I've ever had
Hey brother, im a surfer.from San Diego land locked in MI. So i started snowboarding. Im now goingndown black diamond runs. Ive only been snowboarding for about 2 month now and i cant stop. Thank you for your videos. They have made a world of difference for me. Keep up the great work brother
Tbh I just frickn send it. I’m alway the first done the hill because my nose is ALWAYS facing down. I bomb it but I can control it so I almost never fall.
Rad
I like the advice about leading with your front arm that is crucial. One thing I don't hear very often is flexion and extension. That is bend your knees into the turn and stand up out of your turn. That is critical to reduce contact with the snow when transitioning. Also you can shorten your turns and still check your speed just as much. short fluid turns and rhythmic. Try to keep that trailing arm quiet. Maybe even grab your jacket so you don't use it. This guy is pretty smooth but holds his turn out a little too long. You can hold out your turn on smooth terrain but when it gets bumpy you really need to shorten it up.
Well done Tommie Dood. Keep educating, inspiring and encouraging others my friend.
tourist trap in vail haha, i remember rolling down that when it was really icy
how can boarders with knee problems go lighter with their knees when snowboarding? I have this problem and I don't want to quit snowboarding when I'm 30 ):
Hey Tommie, I'd like to see you explaining how to snowboard on flat terain, and share you knowledge with us. Thank you in advance. Big LIKE from Serbia
You have a great voice for teaching, super clear! I loved this video! thanks for the tips and nice viewssss
Can you go into more detail of how your body position should be if your going down fast but you want to manage doing those micro brakes/turns? im always confused if im supposed to bend my knees more or do the pushing against the shin, or knee steering technique 😵💫
Just boarded for the first time 2 days ago and honestly I just hopped on and kinda figured it out and for me steep wasn’t even an issue it was the slower almost flatter sections where I struggled trying to keep straight
This guy’s an artist on the board
9:55. Knees bent. Shock absorbers
Thanks TB!… I slip out a lot on steep terrain! Being 6’4 I forget to lover my bellybutton like you say! Thank you!!
Thanks! Total newbie here and having these visuals is super helpful.
Thanks Tommy! Implemented some of this last week boarding in Bulgaria. Definitely felt improvements but struggled a bit on heelside with chatter - despite trying to use knees and shoulders and not pushing down the fall-line. It was under speed mostly, and I felt I was skidding out or slipping on the blacks. Any advice?
Tommie, your tips have been a game changer for me. I only started riding last season but I felt extremely prepared watching a ton of your videos. The biggest thing I struggled with is being able to turn down steep terrain, especially toe side. I always felt like the board wouldn't move no matter how much I tried, or moved my arm. I think I see the problem now, I need way more weight on the front foot, which feels counter-intuitive but it makes sense. CANT WAIT for my province to end lockdown so I can get back on the slopes!!
Thank you for everything!
all well and good but what about on vertical that is at a such a steep angle that when it is frozen in the morning(not to mention when its icey), the board simply can not hook up the edge properly/enough. I stopped to catch my breath a little and even with my knees bent and my weight full on my toes, the toe edge dropped and I went downhill for about 60-70ft on my toe side trying with all my strength to stop. Take into consideration that I was not freerideing in some remote place where I should have some ice axes with me.. no, this was on piste. I could have done it without puting so much control on speed and doing sharp, short turns that put you in the constant situation of slipping down the hill but, due to the gianormous amounts of brake bumps and washed up snow, it would mean above 40 miles per hour dh speed on something very abrupt and very bumpy that's in a shade almost all day(so, you can't see the bumps at speed.. at least at my lvl). Let me clarify how abrupt is: when I finally manage to stop from slipping, turn myself on the heel side and got myself vertical, the sensation is that you are on the edge of a cliff. In the end I said *fveck this shite* and got out diagonally off piste where the snow was fluffy and deep(this portion is above tree area) and I could count on my board to work through turns as a board should.
I consider myself an intermediate.., until noon, depending on the slope and resort(and the number of ppl who ruin the slopes by braking without reason), on reds and blues, I don't even do speed checks, unless I want it or there is an element that's beyond my control that requires it; on blacks(whatever the type) I always proceed with caution and read the terrain. I must mention I do gravity mtb-ing(I started snowboarding in order to have something to do during the winters) so, I don't have a problem with abrupts or with speed... I simply did not manage to find an answer about what to do in the case I exemplified above(beside maybe get a board with better edge hold? 🙄🤷🏿♂️) ; what do you think? (beside, getting used to abrupt, a lack of, at least, some part of control and taking bumps comfortably at speed)
cheers,
E.
lol, at the beginning of the video you're by the sign for Tourist Trap. I'm not the best snowboarder, but my partner loves skiing vail and loves Riva Ridge, so I get stuck going down tourist trap several times just to keep up. Maybe after watching this video I'll struggle less going down tourist trap next time I go to vail.
Steep hills simply aren’t as fun imo. I’m 40 and don’t want to get hurt so I don’t love a ton of speed. Carving and skidding the board constantly isn’t nearly as fun as milder run and S curving down.
Bruh. What is this video? I ride trees and wanted to know have to ride them smoother when it gets really. Steep. People actually just go and ride and icy looking steep run???? How is that fun. Really not seeing the point to this vid. I way rather go lean as far back as possible on my board and float on some powder while I smiling listening to music and maybe get a lil stoned😂. Is this just me? This style of riding simply looks sooo boring to me
Hey Tommie, thanks for also riding switch for some sections! I ride goofy and it's hard for me to mentally flip the image of people who ride regular, so seeing your turns riding switch were a great one-to-one reference for how I should be riding. That move at 4:18 was so sick too!
Hi Tommie. I’m already doing what you described, but when I turn, I end up side slipping quite a bit down before making my next turn. Any way to fix that?
So I just started snowboarding, I ended up buying an intermediate/advanced board, will this hinder me from being able to learn how to snowboard? I got a Libtech Dynamo if that is important to know at all. I've only heard racing reviews about the board.
The 2 videos of yours I have watched pack in more useful information than any others I’ve seen. I am a little put off by not seeing your face (totally goggled and masked) which makes your fast delivery a little harder to follow but these 2 videos have done more for my riding than all the others I’ve watched combined.
Tommy used your change of elevation technique
Wow what a difference
This is a must see for inexperienced snowboarders
You dont need to twist your body all over the place
Thank you Thank you
What about with ice? Any tips? I’m trying to get use to steep terrain but it’s so difficult with east coast icy conditions
What mitts are you wearing??? I am almost through my Dakine’s I’ve been running for years an can’t find more. Yours look nice
Cool video bruh, I was wondering if you could make a video going downhill making turns with with the camera man side by side.. so we can see a different angle of the body weight. I think it'd be awesome. Thank you.
That's one of the areas in having problem is with speed down steep terrain, I feel I don't have the control once I'm flying, but I watch my brother-in-law and he's pretty damn fast, even though he has years on me, or decades actually I watch a lot of your vids very good instructions on a lot of material, I still feel I have a lot to learn but I'm getting better each time I go...
Do it like the guys on a steep ladder, don't look down. I look at the stopping target on snow across my shoulder. The distance and depth are based on your comfort level. One turn at a time; It's no different than going down a green run once you get a hang of it.
Tommie, I got to say your videos are by far the best out there. I haven't been on a board in about 15 years, and I just picked up a new board today, your videos helped me regain my confidence and made me want to get back out there, they've also served as a refresher course for me as well as educational, I'm picking up a lot of new tricks and tips from watching your stuff... keep them coming and thank you.
You like my big brother! You have taught me so many things, much love! Happy riding🤙🏂
I feel like if I'm digging in my edges and going from one edge to the other, even if I'm not straying far from pointing straight down the hill (just little wiggling turns), the act of making those little carves slows me down a lot. I'm not that great yet but I'd love some input on that.
Thanks, I like this video. Will rewatch. Yeah is varying out there icier hard, and piles of soft. Plenty of ways to fall.
I haven't been on a board for 10 years and have only had about 2 days experience total prior to that. I have watched a few of your videos and last week went 2 days back to back 7 hours per day with no major wipeouts thanks to your great advice. Mike 56 years old and still loving it more than ever.
Show us a hill where it is so steep you cannot stop and even full sideways full brakes still popping over moguls. What do you do for that? I had that before and tried to be absolutely quick as I could hopping from left to right to try and slow and stay on the trail.
This guys back arm is all over the place also there was a couple of turns where he lifted his back foot. Advance training is go to a beginner and put your binding on the first click this will teach you about proper body awareness you not be able to get away with throwing your arms around.
Thank you, currently in the Austrian alps and trying to really work on linking the turns in steeper conditions, this video was really helpful
Why aren’t my legs stronger? I walk with them every day for hours and miles at this point they should be jacked… but there not
Sweet advice man! I always forget to lower my center of gravity and trust my instincts... Gotta keep working!
how does the filmer stay so steady is my question? i see you having to rock back and forth to brake and slow down but hes just doing it steady behind you, not overtaking you, not swaying.
Love watching your videos! There's usually at least one or two little things that I find myself doing wrong after each video, and your tips are a gamechanger. You've helped turn this longtime skier into a semi-decent snowboarder
Thnx this helps a lot because I just started carving and can't go down for example curry bowl yet
Kinda out of control, When your changing direction your upper body is counter crossing as evident by initiating the turns with your arms..
Lean into the mountain, not against. Embrace gravity and be fully committed. You’ll be fine
very small underrated chanell, but you're growing and with that quality of content you're gonna grow fast
Getting over the leaning forward and having more pressure on the front foot when going down steeper slopes is so difficult. I’m having a hell of a time getting over that hurdle
Charge, my tail comes way off the snow as I pivot on my nose. The back leg riders need to switch it up to front leg
In which area are you guys boarding? Is it in Europe or America or somewhere else? Cuz it looks great!
So in this video you stress the initiation of turns with the shoulders. I’ve seen other videos that emphasize the initiation of turns with your lead foot instead, and minimal use of your shoulders.
Is it just a feeling out process or is there an actual optimal way to do it?
Just started snowboarding! I did my 3rd session yesterday and I had a lot of trouble on a steep run, I will definitely try these tips and "commit" to putting weight on my front leg
Hey Tommie, love all yr videos can u please tell me what resort r u at when doing this video, thanks from phil in new Zealand
Shout out to the cameraman… shredding moguls is already a bitch. Doing it while recording must be ridiculous
Today I experienced quad cramps I didn’t know were possible in the human body