Thanks man, you saved me from breaking my wrists like I did when I was 12. At the end of my first day attempting to snowboard again after 30 years, I thought I was done and realized with horror that I had to take a long, mandatory cat track to get to the base. I stopped to watch your video, and it took me 30 minutes to get down but the moment that it clicked and I could rock from an edge to another was exhilarating. What helped was a small section of slush, I knew that it was the right time to try rolling edges and it worked instantly. Thank you, thank you. I also like that you’re not talking about lifting or pressing toes - I find this kind of advice from other instructors unhelpful, plus this leads to tension and cramps. Thanks to you, I focused on shifting my center of mass and the rest followed
That's awesome to hear, and yes the lifting the toes is more of what I would call a quick fix that ends up actually leading to other problems, I actually made another video on that subject after hearing lots of other instructors talking about it! Anyway, glad to have helped, and appreciate the tip, many thanks!
Some of my most miserable snowboarding moments were the cat tracks at Vail. So long and so crowded! I felt like I was getting locked onto 1 edge and riding until my legs felt like they were going numb. I'll have to try out this technique. Thanks Malcolm!
OMG- This is exactly why I searched "snowboards and cat tracks". We love Vail and the back bowls except for that awful cat track where my shins are on fire. 😣
As a beginner who just started the smallest hill at the local park I always did pretty well at the slopes but would completely eat it at the bottom flat area. This video is really helpful
Good tips. As a snowboarder for the last 27 years I actually like chillaxing down the flats and enjoying the scenery. Usually overtake the skiers. Main thing is to go straight and soften your waist. Standing tall is important as you said, so you can do minimal balance shifts to go from one edge to the other. Thanks for showing the Sarenne, I used to love skiing down that but not done it since 1994.
Your videos talking about “reading the slope” and the “fall line” helped me 100% on flats ..don’t fear them anymore because I took some hard falls on them previous seasons.. this video is a great refresher before heading out
As a snowboard beginner I found that it’s really difficult to control my board when I’m riding flat base. Last weekend I caught my edge when I was riding flat on a flat ground with low speed and I broke my rib. Good to watch this video during my break and hope it’ll never happen to me again.
I really learned how to ride flats when I worked at a resort. Staying on an edge is key, along with choosing when to just point it when a flat section is coming up so you can keep speed
I had a bad fall riding a flat last year which blew the wind out of me and what felt like a minor concussion. That fall still haunts me to this day even though I haven't had the chance to snowboard yet this year. Thanks for the the tips Malcolm, really useful, especially the one on not sitting low too much.
One thing I read recently that definitely helps my thinking process - Pick and edge, or your board will pick one for you. Definitely rings true from experience!
Christmas present for my daughter (10 year old) and we had great success! Great for a beginner and get the feel of snowboarding. It gave her the confidence she needed to hit the big slopes.
Yep u hit it again Malcolm I find speed is your friend on flats keep rolling from edge to edge it’s like a perfect dance with a beautiful woman and strong legs as pump can really get into the quads if not moving to much
Thank you so much ! You’re the first one that i see explaining this ! Love your video it’s nice, clear and friendly. I had a 2 years break of boarding because i broke my wrist but i wanna try again ! I hope I won’t catch edges thanks to your advices ;)
Thank you for this. Road flats today and caught an edge several times as I kept going to 45s when I got uncomfortable with speed. 2nd season rider and this was super helpful!
Speed is your friend within reason. It is difficult to make the edge to edge transitions at very low speeds. Practices as shown but on a shallow wide slope. Speed does not have to be fast, but practice from a stopped position, jump or point the board down the fall line on a flat base as described, this will build speed the quickest way. It is not about going fast but getting to a speed that allows a natural movement across the board for edge to edge transitions. If you can make the transitions at this controlled speed on an easy piste you will know you can do it on a narrow flat path. The movement is subtle and the timing on each edge should be very similar and short else you will start to make a turn across the slope. Be confident, stand tall and relax. If you tense or get defensive by kicking the back of the board out you will run into trouble.
Malcolm, I just found you (thanks YT algorithm). I had a nasty fall on flats, going fast enough to clear them but without the techniques (and safety gear) to navigate them safely. Suffice to say i am now dead ass scared of flats and I really lost my confidence that day. Watching this is giving me that itch. Thanks so much - your thought process and teaching style is absolutely perfect. I am a physics nerd, so if things dont make sense in terms of the forces I know are acting on me and the board I just cant get it. Spot on.
Last year when I started my relevant snowboarding journey (so, not counting my years as a kid where I was not well instructed or trying very hard) my friends treated me to a day at a resort that was new to me. At the end of our very first run of the day on the flat I caught my edge (I was very new to using my toe edge at the time) and actually ended up separating my left shoulder in the impact 😅Ten months later I finally got back on the slopes, and marking 11 months from the injury I went back to that resort and did a whole day injury free, including my first couple black runs! Yet I am still terrified of those flat sections. I guess I shouldn't be afraid separating that shoulder again since I didn't have it reattached but the learned fears are the most difficult to overcome. Once I learn some more edge control and correct my iffy posture like you point out in this video I'm sure I'll be able to hit 'em with confidence.
My first trip away was Montgenevre, there was a very long narrow cat track at the bottom on which I went down (caught an edge) so many times. Eventually learned how to do this after many faceplants! 🤦🏼♂️It wasn’t the slope, but other peoples carve marks in it. I miss the mountains so much it’s actually hard to watch these videos! 😳 So thanks for that Malcolm 😁
While you can still shift from one way to the other, then there is no issue. It's just when you are barely moving forward that things get interesting. Another tip: lean backward as much as you can to make sure to catch every bit of speed you can! Oh, and the sarenne is lovely! Did it again last year while there was barely any snow in the area. The sarenne doesn't end where you stopped.. you can do another flat section after that lift...
Malcom Moore! This video also helped a lot! I am very grateful to you that I can learn to snowboard with your videos! I am extremely grateful to you! Thank you very much!!!
I've been boarding for 20+ years and this has always been my weakness. I was so happy to see you just made this video!! I've always hated being "that guy" on the narrow flats that's taking up the full width by carving edge to edge to keep from wiping out. I also hate to suddenly have to twist 90* to skid real quick when I'm riding flat and exceeding a comfortable/safe speed. This is one benefit I give to ski's over boarding ( I do both).
Thanks for this one Malcolm - Hoping to hit Arc in March (all being well) and only having dry Slopes and Indoor snow does not lend itself to practising these cat runs so really helpful to bear your techniques in mind. Love the content and hope restrictions end soon for you mate. Cheers, Sam 🇬🇧
Flats are annoying, but more commonly for me because I end up losing speed and stopping rather than catching an edge (though that has happened a few times!) But worse for me is super narrow bits (flat or otherwise), when you have dozens of skiers whizzing past either side of you, and the kids waving their poles around trying to hit you in the face.
This video was exactly what I needed. Particularly the point that having your board face directly down the slope is actually safer because it is harder to catch an edge.
@@malcolmmoore but when pointing the board down, how do you control speed - by pushing it into the edge w your legs? Still scared for those flat narrow paths...
"Reasonably high".... you got me there mate ahahhahaha me loughing my .ss of 😂🤣 love ur videos btw, you have a great skill of explaining, thank you for making life for us beginer riders easier!
Can I ask how you deal with speed checks on the flats and narrows? When I feel the board is going faster than I can emergency stop, I put the brakes on, but find it hard to unwind out because of the lack of room to the sides. Hope my question makes sense.
So yeah as Jimmy said ideally try and control it with the rocking edge to edge but if you need to put in a speed check do so so my counter rotating the upper and lower body to quickly push the board into a skid, then use that counter rotation to unwind and bring it back 👍
As a long time coach and instructor I surprised to see that there is no talk about where your weight should be on your board. With proper technique you don't need to turn your upper body and bring it back to slow yourself down. That is ACTUALLY one of the main reasons why people catch an edge. In general if you got proper riding technique you will not catch an edge ever. Basically you left out the most important and crucial thing about riding flats which makes this whole video extremely sketchy.
Thanks a lot for the video. I'm having a lot of issues with flats at the moment; the board starts going fast, and any little deviation makes the board change direction and I fall. I don't feel as much stability as when I'm doing normal s turns. I'll try working on my position; maybe that's why I'm feeling so much instability
Super helpful video! Absolutely hate cat-tracks especially when it's crowded and full of slower people skiing side by side... I also just want to mention to always be predictable on flat cat-tracks.
Hey Malcom, any tips for when the flat is carved/grooved parallel with the run? I had trouble this past week on a narrow flat that was grooved pretty hard to the point it was difficult to choose an edge and ended up catching a toe edge on my final run. Psyched myself out by telling myself I was going to catch one, and did lol. Thanks for these informative videos you put out!
Hmmm not entirely sure what you mean, but when the piste is really bad, icy in the middle, or bumpy or whatever, sometimes it does just suck! You are still best on your edge but you just have to practice and soon it'll become natural!
Simple fix to save you from falls: Grooves are most likely to grab your board and drop you when going slow and you are on a flat base. always be on an edge, especially at slower speeds, rocking back and forth, that means you are always turning and the grooves typically won’t overtake you.
@@simonwoo5450 Yeah i agree specifically also if your in the shadow areas.. for me anyway shaded areas for me can be a bitch going from sun to shade i hate it. Sometime i just lose the feeling. its like i cant see the piste features and get caught out...
Useful video. Have being riding for years but have never really considered a strategy for flat sections, other than traversing on mostly one edge then occasionally rocking to switch to take the strain off the thigh muscles as you are on the opposite edge, however my way relies on a double falline. This looks so much easier and relaxed, and swapping edges means way less strain. Sorry to hear about your bookings falling off a cliff.
I'm just amazed that this was a 2.8 miles non-stop cruise.... the best I had in Australia (Perisher) was done in several hundred metres, maybe a 1km.... Super jealous.
I used to hate pistes like that when I was a beginner but I actually enjoy riding them now. I struggle with the icy path of death (ipod) after riding Col Granier or the Foglietta at Sainte Foy. It’s like a flat icy mogal field but no more than 6 feet wide. Maybe it would be easier on a twin tip board but I use a Jones Mind Expander, which is amazing in the powder. The Foglietta is an amazing run with almost 1000m drop in height but I dread the ipod at the end!
Hey Malcolm. Thanks for the video, can’t wait to try this out this weekend! Do you have any advice on staying closer in parallel with the fall line while on an edge? My board seems to be turning itself perpendicular to the fall line whenever I’m trying to go straight on these flat parts.
Thank you Malcolm for all the videos and tips. It really helped me improve my riding, taking turns, etc. and riding flat and narrow pistes, not fearing to catch an edge.
Really nice demo at 8:03 the selfie stick angle really helps. Btw we all missing the alps, can you ride into a mountain cafe and order a traditional dish and expensive beer next time! We'll sponsor your lunch!
I really dont know how you do it Malcom. I broke my clavicle last year catching an edge whilst going down a flat. The pain was excruciating, thinking about it puts me in a state of anxiety. My vacation was instantly over, 2 weeks (around €2500) down the drain. The fear is real, I see tons of other people commenting in here with the same thing so im not the only one. I do wonder what we are doing differently to what you are doing in this vid. Maybe your subconscious feels those micro movements better that are necessary, through your experience. Im not risking anything anymore on flats/cattracks, maybe if I had an expert coach with me like you to guide me through.
How do you control your speed on these flat sections? Does rocking between edges slow you down a bit? I find I'm constantly pulling the board around to slow down as it feels as though I am out of control, I don't want to stack it on these icy paths and I definitely don't want to hit anyone!
Great vid. That long straight of the Sarenne almost killed me a few years ago, on my first boarding holiday. I caught lots and lots of edges, lots of falls, almost bit through my tongue, and they had to hold the final chair lift of the day because we'd gone in the afternoon. Not a fun day. Hopefully will get back there one day to give it another go Gutted about you losing custom. My trip to Les Arcs is booked for March, got all my fingers crossed the border will be open again by then
This is exactly how I broke my scaphoid this weekend going from one run to the next on a steep to flat cat track, I picked up a whole bunch of speed and then on the flats, caught an edge, toe side and folded my wrist over.
I’m really struggling to hold a small amount of heel-side edge. I always end oversteering and across the fall line. Any tips on how to get this under control? Thanks for the excellent videos, they’ve been so helpful!
Another Quality Video... I know that run your on there and its so Scenic.. and yet can be like running the gauntlet lol sorry to hear about losing the business...hoping were going to be able to drive up in January and looking forward to having our lesson with you.. And meeting Indy.... we do get to meet Indy... right ??
Try and get it back! I mean hopefully most flat slopes don't get that bumpy as people aren't really turning on then, but if it is bumpy just try and absorb the bumps one leg at a time keeping your upper body smooth over the top!
Thanks for the great tips as always Malcom! Any chance you can put the GPS data on more videos in the future? I'm trying to get a bit more comfortable with speed after catching an edge a few times at higher speeds, and seeing how fast you're actually going during this seems like it'd be a nice data point to have.
Thanks for this, Malcolm. Saving this to re-watch when I hopefully go on the 17th of Jan. Sucks to hear you lost around 90% of your bookings dude! Dropping a tip to help lessen the blow!
Thanks Malcolm. That’s my favorite kind of slope to ride. You’re a joy to listen to and your instructions are always spot on. Wish I could get a couple of days learning from you in person.
This is actually the second video I've watched on this channel. The first was "omg how the hell this guy rides with insane speed almost flat straight downhill and not catching an edge". So I'm right on time.
Great video mate ,I have a question I have been riding 3 seasons now ,and still get a bit of foot pain my boots fit perfectly very comfortable iam not sure if I am strapping my bindings to tight or what but after a while they start to almost go numb its hard for me to do a full run without stopping g for a break ,not sure why ? Any input will help i ride +12 negative 12 stance burton cartel bindings and soloman dialouge boots
If you can walk around in your boots for 30min'sh without pain, most likely your bindings are strapped too tight. Loosen them a click or two. If you get pain from walking around in your boots, loosen the lace around your feet, and tighten the lace a bit more around ankles and up. Not sure how that works if yours uses BOA. Check your socks too. Make sure they are good fit so they don't get bunched up in your feet. Good luck!
Yeah as road trip says, is that the o ly pair of boots you have tried? Also foot pain can be quite common when doing something you're not used too, I don't know how often you snowboard, but after a week or so your feet should start to get used to it if it's just regular muscle fatigue.
I’ve recently moved to Switzerland, which has given me the chance to pick up snowboarding and your videos have been an absolute lifesaver! Anyway, I’m finding it difficult when trying to do long S shaped turns, especially on the flat bits of Couloirs. Think it’s getting my hips over when I’m already quite straight on my board? Any tips?
Beginer boarder here, so far only been riding 2 days following your beginer videos, but idk how to rock my board from toe to heal just only attempt to turn in S shapes which turn out to be more like really streached out S. Or i get scared and pretty much completely stop then have to force a turn, I only go on beginer hill/green slopes.
Does pitching your shoulders forward onto your toe edge come into play when you are charging fast? Or is something you should never do. I find I can carve very aggressively and hold a line when going fast with this method.
OMG this trail is heaven! Im watching your videos to hopefully help teach a few friends of mine..loving the content. What mtn and trail is this?! Going on my ever expanding bucketlist of places to board hahah
How is the camera working? Can you switch on elevation and speed aktive on th camera? Are you satissfied with the insta360? Im also searching for a good Action cam. Thanks in advance.
very helpful Malcolm. Wanna practise those moves. Sometimes, i feel that i pick up a lot of speed on some of these "flat" and narrow sections. How would you scrub speed without putting your board across the fall line?
U could try carving more than usual keeping speed in control a lot of subtle carves no skids seem to do the trick kinda like a dancer sounds funny but it works get a rhythm down
So if the flat slope is cambered/tilted to the left, I go on my toe side edge (regular foot placement). When I do this I somehow still slide off to the left and lose speed and then I’m stuck. Should I keep going on the toe side or switch from toe to heel all the time like he did in the video even though the slope is tilted?
Hey mate, lovely video and really helpful, thanks :) I love this riding style and I'm looking for a board that will suit it best, I am a fan of Amplid boards too, what would you recommend Creamer, Morning Glory or Dada, a good edge hold would be important too, I've made bad experience with washy boards. Thank you!
Thanks, hmmm I would say the creamer probably has the best edge hold, but the dada and morning glory are not bad either. All are very different boards though. The creamer is more of a conventional directional all mountain twin. The dada is kind of what I would call an all mountain board but it has a very unique shape and therefore different feel to it, it is very wide which does require a little more to make edge changes, but if you have big feet you might benefit from that added width. The morning glory I would say is a board to add to your quiver to take out on those big powder days, it's good on the piste too, but not as playful as the other boards, and doesn't really do switch. Hope this helps!
You make it look easy, and not like the tiring death trap it is.
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Thanks man, you saved me from breaking my wrists like I did when I was 12. At the end of my first day attempting to snowboard again after 30 years, I thought I was done and realized with horror that I had to take a long, mandatory cat track to get to the base.
I stopped to watch your video, and it took me 30 minutes to get down but the moment that it clicked and I could rock from an edge to another was exhilarating. What helped was a small section of slush, I knew that it was the right time to try rolling edges and it worked instantly.
Thank you, thank you. I also like that you’re not talking about lifting or pressing toes - I find this kind of advice from other instructors unhelpful, plus this leads to tension and cramps. Thanks to you, I focused on shifting my center of mass and the rest followed
That's awesome to hear, and yes the lifting the toes is more of what I would call a quick fix that ends up actually leading to other problems, I actually made another video on that subject after hearing lots of other instructors talking about it! Anyway, glad to have helped, and appreciate the tip, many thanks!
Some of my most miserable snowboarding moments were the cat tracks at Vail. So long and so crowded! I felt like I was getting locked onto 1 edge and riding until my legs felt like they were going numb. I'll have to try out this technique. Thanks Malcolm!
OMG- This is exactly why I searched "snowboards and cat tracks". We love Vail and the back bowls except for that awful cat track where my shins are on fire. 😣
Having horrific flashbacks after reading this. Lol
@@KGB0217 rocking edge to edge really does help!
As a beginner who just started the smallest hill at the local park I always did pretty well at the slopes but would completely eat it at the bottom flat area. This video is really helpful
Good tips. As a snowboarder for the last 27 years I actually like chillaxing down the flats and enjoying the scenery. Usually overtake the skiers. Main thing is to go straight and soften your waist. Standing tall is important as you said, so you can do minimal balance shifts to go from one edge to the other. Thanks for showing the Sarenne, I used to love skiing down that but not done it since 1994.
Your videos talking about “reading the slope” and the “fall line” helped me 100% on flats ..don’t fear them anymore because I took some hard falls on them previous seasons.. this video is a great refresher before heading out
Cool enjoy your trip!
As a snowboard beginner I found that it’s really difficult to control my board when I’m riding flat base. Last weekend I caught my edge when I was riding flat on a flat ground with low speed and I broke my rib. Good to watch this video during my break and hope it’ll never happen to me again.
Rewatching this video REALLY helped my first day out this year. Just adding to the gratitude 😊
I really learned how to ride flats when I worked at a resort. Staying on an edge is key, along with choosing when to just point it when a flat section is coming up so you can keep speed
I had a bad fall riding a flat last year which blew the wind out of me and what felt like a minor concussion. That fall still haunts me to this day even though I haven't had the chance to snowboard yet this year. Thanks for the the tips Malcolm, really useful, especially the one on not sitting low too much.
That sucks, hopefully it'll be your last fall!
@@malcolmmoore Hopefully! haha
Once went flat and got sent into the shadow realm..
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I caught an edge while going flat once; I woke up in Australia after…
Same! Was given a second chance and still didn’t learn my lesson. 😂
I caught my heel edge traversing flats once…I was convinced I broke my ass.
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One thing I read recently that definitely helps my thinking process - Pick and edge, or your board will pick one for you. Definitely rings true from experience!
Super helpful as always! Please don't stop making these videos, thank you very much!
Loved this video. This is by far my worst nightmare & where my most accidents have happened. Great tips. Thank you 😊
Cheers Katherine 🤩
Christmas present for my daughter (10 year old) and we had great success! Great for a beginner and get the feel of snowboarding. It gave her the confidence she needed to hit the big slopes.
Yep u hit it again Malcolm I find speed is your friend on flats keep rolling from edge to edge it’s like a perfect dance with a beautiful woman and strong legs as pump can really get into the quads if not moving to much
I love this. Speed is your friend. Just go faster!
Your videos are great and what I like most of all is that you speak slowly, very important for us french people/ non english speakers :D cheers
Merci!
Thank you so much ! You’re the first one that i see explaining this ! Love your video it’s nice, clear and friendly.
I had a 2 years break of boarding because i broke my wrist but i wanna try again ! I hope I won’t catch edges thanks to your advices ;)
You explained so well, very clear, and with good demonstrations instead of just talking most of the time!
Thank you for this. Road flats today and caught an edge several times as I kept going to 45s when I got uncomfortable with speed. 2nd season rider and this was super helpful!
Awesome, glad it helped!
Speed is your friend within reason. It is difficult to make the edge to edge transitions at very low speeds. Practices as shown but on a shallow wide slope. Speed does not have to be fast, but practice from a stopped position, jump or point the board down the fall line on a flat base as described, this will build speed the quickest way. It is not about going fast but getting to a speed that allows a natural movement across the board for edge to edge transitions. If you can make the transitions at this controlled speed on an easy piste you will know you can do it on a narrow flat path. The movement is subtle and the timing on each edge should be very similar and short else you will start to make a turn across the slope. Be confident, stand tall and relax. If you tense or get defensive by kicking the back of the board out you will run into trouble.
Malcolm, I just found you (thanks YT algorithm). I had a nasty fall on flats, going fast enough to clear them but without the techniques (and safety gear) to navigate them safely. Suffice to say i am now dead ass scared of flats and I really lost my confidence that day. Watching this is giving me that itch. Thanks so much - your thought process and teaching style is absolutely perfect. I am a physics nerd, so if things dont make sense in terms of the forces I know are acting on me and the board I just cant get it. Spot on.
Thanks Matthew, I hope the videos help you, and good luck with the flats!
@@malcolmmoore Cheers dude. Im still watching your vids. Kinda binging them lol
7:53 - funny chuckle 😂
A good tip to help relax.
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Last year when I started my relevant snowboarding journey (so, not counting my years as a kid where I was not well instructed or trying very hard) my friends treated me to a day at a resort that was new to me. At the end of our very first run of the day on the flat I caught my edge (I was very new to using my toe edge at the time) and actually ended up separating my left shoulder in the impact 😅Ten months later I finally got back on the slopes, and marking 11 months from the injury I went back to that resort and did a whole day injury free, including my first couple black runs! Yet I am still terrified of those flat sections. I guess I shouldn't be afraid separating that shoulder again since I didn't have it reattached but the learned fears are the most difficult to overcome. Once I learn some more edge control and correct my iffy posture like you point out in this video I'm sure I'll be able to hit 'em with confidence.
Thanks for all the videos man, you really helped me learn 👍
No problem!
It's the most relaxing video i've ever seen.
My first trip away was Montgenevre, there was a very long narrow cat track at the bottom on which I went down (caught an edge) so many times. Eventually learned how to do this after many faceplants! 🤦🏼♂️It wasn’t the slope, but other peoples carve marks in it. I miss the mountains so much it’s actually hard to watch these videos! 😳 So thanks for that Malcolm 😁
I love montgenèvre, it's pretty close to here!
Omg that route looks amazing I can’t imagine
I used to hate flats. And cat tracks. Then I learned to carve. Now I love them! ❤️
Yesss 🙌🙌
While you can still shift from one way to the other, then there is no issue. It's just when you are barely moving forward that things get interesting.
Another tip: lean backward as much as you can to make sure to catch every bit of speed you can!
Oh, and the sarenne is lovely! Did it again last year while there was barely any snow in the area. The sarenne doesn't end where you stopped.. you can do another flat section after that lift...
Malcom Moore! This video also helped a lot! I am very grateful to you that I can learn to snowboard with your videos! I am extremely grateful to you! Thank you very much!!!
Thanks so much!! Happy it helps 😊🫶✌️
Thanks for making the video even though you’re uncomfortable talking around others. I learned a lot.
Glad I could help, thanks for watching a few 👍
I've been boarding for 20+ years and this has always been my weakness. I was so happy to see you just made this video!! I've always hated being "that guy" on the narrow flats that's taking up the full width by carving edge to edge to keep from wiping out. I also hate to suddenly have to twist 90* to skid real quick when I'm riding flat and exceeding a comfortable/safe speed. This is one benefit I give to ski's over boarding ( I do both).
Happy to help 😄
Thanks for this one Malcolm - Hoping to hit Arc in March (all being well) and only having dry Slopes and Indoor snow does not lend itself to practising these cat runs so really helpful to bear your techniques in mind. Love the content and hope restrictions end soon for you mate. Cheers, Sam 🇬🇧
Cheers Sam 🙌
Flats are annoying, but more commonly for me because I end up losing speed and stopping rather than catching an edge (though that has happened a few times!) But worse for me is super narrow bits (flat or otherwise), when you have dozens of skiers whizzing past either side of you, and the kids waving their poles around trying to hit you in the face.
Best snowboarding tutorials on northern hemisphere, thank you Mr. Moore, would add, wax regular to ride flats ;)
True, and thanks! 👌
couldn't have picked a better run for this tutorial! was awsm! thanks!
Cheers 🤙
Flying out tomorrow morning for a weeks boarding! Can’t wait.. getting all the tips I can in before heading 😅
Enjoy!!!
This video was exactly what I needed. Particularly the point that having your board face directly down the slope is actually safer because it is harder to catch an edge.
Hope it helps 🙏
@@malcolmmoore but when pointing the board down, how do you control speed - by pushing it into the edge w your legs? Still scared for those flat narrow paths...
Man i messed up my AC joint a couple years back catching an edge on flats. Still hurts a bit to this day. Pay attention to this man's videos folks!!!!
Cheers man 🙌
Nice tutorial, a good refresher - got to be honest I was mostly watching for the scenic run as I'm missing the snow! 😄
Thanks, hopefully you'll get to some snow soon!
I'm just amazed at how much down slope time you have!! I live in Minnesota and here our hills are straight down and that's it. No flats...
I mean I searched out a flat here, it's not all like this!
"Reasonably high".... you got me there mate ahahhahaha me loughing my .ss of 😂🤣 love ur videos btw, you have a great skill of explaining, thank you for making life for us beginer riders easier!
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I will test this in March, i hope i will do better then last time when i was on la sarenne. Can't wait to be there :D
Good luck 👍
Great video, just one take. Thank you, very informative and valuable.
Thanks 🙏🙏
Can I ask how you deal with speed checks on the flats and narrows? When I feel the board is going faster than I can emergency stop, I put the brakes on, but find it hard to unwind out because of the lack of room to the sides.
Hope my question makes sense.
Carve more often to keep that speed in control it’s gotta be a carve and not a skid back and forth subtle carves work the best
So yeah as Jimmy said ideally try and control it with the rocking edge to edge but if you need to put in a speed check do so so my counter rotating the upper and lower body to quickly push the board into a skid, then use that counter rotation to unwind and bring it back 👍
As a long time coach and instructor I surprised to see that there is no talk about where your weight should be on your board. With proper technique you don't need to turn your upper body and bring it back to slow yourself down. That is ACTUALLY one of the main reasons why people catch an edge.
In general if you got proper riding technique you will not catch an edge ever.
Basically you left out the most important and crucial thing about riding flats which makes this whole video extremely sketchy.
@@jonthevon you clearly didnt watch the full video since he talked about the weight needing to be centered at 8:13 and how important that is...
@@jonthevon Well don't leave us hanging. Where should your weight be and how do you slow yourself down?
I was Bending my Knees to much and not having as straight of posture!! THANK YOU BUD
My pleasure 👍
great tips, brilliant video
Thanks!
Thanks a lot for the video. I'm having a lot of issues with flats at the moment; the board starts going fast, and any little deviation makes the board change direction and I fall. I don't feel as much stability as when I'm doing normal s turns. I'll try working on my position; maybe that's why I'm feeling so much instability
7:53 close one😅 Great video!
Loved that glide sooo much did it over and over again. Loved over taking the skiers. Top video
Thanks Andy! 🙌
Super helpful video! Absolutely hate cat-tracks especially when it's crowded and full of slower people skiing side by side... I also just want to mention to always be predictable on flat cat-tracks.
Thanks Tony 😊
Hey Malcom, any tips for when the flat is carved/grooved parallel with the run? I had trouble this past week on a narrow flat that was grooved pretty hard to the point it was difficult to choose an edge and ended up catching a toe edge on my final run. Psyched myself out by telling myself I was going to catch one, and did lol. Thanks for these informative videos you put out!
Hmmm not entirely sure what you mean, but when the piste is really bad, icy in the middle, or bumpy or whatever, sometimes it does just suck! You are still best on your edge but you just have to practice and soon it'll become natural!
@@malcolmmoore haha it’s hard to explain what I meant, but you’re right, practice makes progress. That’s why I watch your videos! Lol thanks
Simple fix to save you from falls: Grooves are most likely to grab your board and drop you when going slow and you are on a flat base. always be on an edge, especially at slower speeds, rocking back and forth, that means you are always turning and the grooves typically won’t overtake you.
@@simonwoo5450 Yeah i agree specifically also if your in the shadow areas.. for me anyway shaded areas for me can be a bitch going from sun to shade i hate it. Sometime i just lose the feeling. its like i cant see the piste features and get caught out...
Finally got to kick it to grouse today, thanks for your videos
Ah grouse, I went there about 11 years ago!
Thank you for confirming what's been a fear the last 20 years.
Haha 😄
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Hi from Colorado
Useful video. Have being riding for years but have never really considered a strategy for flat sections, other than traversing on mostly one edge then occasionally rocking to switch to take the strain off the thigh muscles as you are on the opposite edge, however my way relies on a double falline. This looks so much easier and relaxed, and swapping edges means way less strain. Sorry to hear about your bookings falling off a cliff.
I'm just amazed that this was a 2.8 miles non-stop cruise.... the best I had in Australia (Perisher) was done in several hundred metres, maybe a 1km.... Super jealous.
I used to hate pistes like that when I was a beginner but I actually enjoy riding them now. I struggle with the icy path of death (ipod) after riding Col Granier or the Foglietta at Sainte Foy. It’s like a flat icy mogal field but no more than 6 feet wide. Maybe it would be easier on a twin tip board but I use a Jones Mind Expander, which is amazing in the powder. The Foglietta is an amazing run with almost 1000m drop in height but I dread the ipod at the end!
Hey Malcolm. Thanks for the video, can’t wait to try this out this weekend! Do you have any advice on staying closer in parallel with the fall line while on an edge? My board seems to be turning itself perpendicular to the fall line whenever I’m trying to go straight on these flat parts.
Same!! Or I get scared and pump the brakes until I’m facing uphill going 0 mph
Thank you Malcolm for all the videos and tips. It really helped me improve my riding, taking turns, etc. and riding flat and narrow pistes, not fearing to catch an edge.
Thanks Matthieu!
Thanks Malcom for another great tutorial, shame about Covid causing issues yet again. Stay safe, and of course looking forward to more videos.
Thanks man 🙌
Hi Malcom nice vid, hope you get some new bookings during the holidays!
Thanks franck 👍
Really nice demo at 8:03 the selfie stick angle really helps.
Btw we all missing the alps, can you ride into a mountain cafe and order a traditional dish and expensive beer next time! We'll sponsor your lunch!
Haha sure thing! 😆
I really dont know how you do it Malcom. I broke my clavicle last year catching an edge whilst going down a flat. The pain was excruciating, thinking about it puts me in a state of anxiety. My vacation was instantly over, 2 weeks (around €2500) down the drain. The fear is real, I see tons of other people commenting in here with the same thing so im not the only one. I do wonder what we are doing differently to what you are doing in this vid. Maybe your subconscious feels those micro movements better that are necessary, through your experience. Im not risking anything anymore on flats/cattracks, maybe if I had an expert coach with me like you to guide me through.
How do you control your speed on these flat sections? Does rocking between edges slow you down a bit?
I find I'm constantly pulling the board around to slow down as it feels as though I am out of control, I don't want to stack it on these icy paths and I definitely don't want to hit anyone!
Me too 😯 I'm afraid of picking up too much speed & then the whizzing skiers & boarders past me make me want to slow up too 😵💫
Great vid. That long straight of the Sarenne almost killed me a few years ago, on my first boarding holiday. I caught lots and lots of edges, lots of falls, almost bit through my tongue, and they had to hold the final chair lift of the day because we'd gone in the afternoon. Not a fun day. Hopefully will get back there one day to give it another go
Gutted about you losing custom. My trip to Les Arcs is booked for March, got all my fingers crossed the border will be open again by then
Les Arcs is great and barely has any flats. For me it's a prime snowboarding resort.
Yeah fingers crossed for you 🤞
This is exactly how I broke my scaphoid this weekend going from one run to the next on a steep to flat cat track, I picked up a whole bunch of speed and then on the flats, caught an edge, toe side and folded my wrist over.
I’m really struggling to hold a small amount of heel-side edge. I always end oversteering and across the fall line. Any tips on how to get this under control?
Thanks for the excellent videos, they’ve been so helpful!
Without seeing what you are doing it is hard to diagnose but my gut is you have too much weight on your front foot in those moments.
Keep it coming. I dig it!
Another Quality Video... I know that run your on there and its so Scenic.. and yet can be like running the gauntlet lol sorry to hear about losing the business...hoping were going to be able to drive up in January and looking forward to having our lesson with you.. And meeting Indy.... we do get to meet Indy... right ??
Haha, of course! We can take the run to Huez with him!
Super long flat run 👌
I love this speed, elevation and distance tracking! (also, how can I do this while riding D: )
MM, brilliantly constructed tutorial. 👍
Also having a perfectly waxed board helps continue the speed across the flat sections.
Very true, and thanks!
Thanks for this amazing video Malcolm. What do u suggest to do if u loose ur balance because of bumps?
Try and get it back! I mean hopefully most flat slopes don't get that bumpy as people aren't really turning on then, but if it is bumpy just try and absorb the bumps one leg at a time keeping your upper body smooth over the top!
Caught an edge couple weeks ago on this run in the shade. Fell right in my nuts going pretty fast. Why did I look back 😂
Ouch, hope those nuts didn't crack!
Thanks for the great tips as always Malcom! Any chance you can put the GPS data on more videos in the future? I'm trying to get a bit more comfortable with speed after catching an edge a few times at higher speeds, and seeing how fast you're actually going during this seems like it'd be a nice data point to have.
Yeah I'll be hoping to bring it into some more vids soon, it took me a while to figure out how to get it working but I seem to have it dialled now!
I can do this but it's not much fun or very relaxing. On skis I find these runs so relaxing it's almost meditative.
It gets easy on a board, just keep working on it
Sorry to hear you’ve lost most of your bookings over these restrictions. Keep up the good work on RUclips .
Quality instruction as per mate. 🤙
Cheers Nathan 🙌
Thanks for this, Malcolm. Saving this to re-watch when I hopefully go on the 17th of Jan.
Sucks to hear you lost around 90% of your bookings dude! Dropping a tip to help lessen the blow!
Thanks Kyle, very kind, I appreciate it 🙌
@@malcolmmoore You're welcome bud, keep up the great content!
Thanks Malcolm. That’s my favorite kind of slope to ride. You’re a joy to listen to and your instructions are always spot on. Wish I could get a couple of days learning from you in person.
Thanks André, well if you are ever in alpe d'huez hit me up!
Great video, as always.
Thanks 👍
This is actually the second video I've watched on this channel. The first was "omg how the hell this guy rides with insane speed almost flat straight downhill and not catching an edge". So I'm right on time.
Haha, welcome to the channel! 👋
Great video mate ,I have a question I have been riding 3 seasons now ,and still get a bit of foot pain my boots fit perfectly very comfortable iam not sure if I am strapping my bindings to tight or what but after a while they start to almost go numb its hard for me to do a full run without stopping g for a break ,not sure why ? Any input will help i ride +12 negative 12 stance burton cartel bindings and soloman dialouge boots
If you can walk around in your boots for 30min'sh without pain, most likely your bindings are strapped too tight. Loosen them a click or two. If you get pain from walking around in your boots, loosen the lace around your feet, and tighten the lace a bit more around ankles and up. Not sure how that works if yours uses BOA. Check your socks too. Make sure they are good fit so they don't get bunched up in your feet. Good luck!
Yeah as road trip says, is that the o ly pair of boots you have tried? Also foot pain can be quite common when doing something you're not used too, I don't know how often you snowboard, but after a week or so your feet should start to get used to it if it's just regular muscle fatigue.
@@LiquidTVUK thanks for sharing 👍
I’ve recently moved to Switzerland, which has given me the chance to pick up snowboarding and your videos have been an absolute lifesaver! Anyway, I’m finding it difficult when trying to do long S shaped turns, especially on the flat bits of Couloirs. Think it’s getting my hips over when I’m already quite straight on my board? Any tips?
Beginer boarder here, so far only been riding 2 days following your beginer videos, but idk how to rock my board from toe to heal just only attempt to turn in S shapes which turn out to be more like really streached out S. Or i get scared and pretty much completely stop then have to force a turn, I only go on beginer hill/green slopes.
Really nice video thanks for the tip and also do you have any recommendation for goggles that fit over glasses?
I'm sure major goggle brands will do models that accommodate glasses underneath, I've often taught people who have that 👍
Any tips on riding moguls on 40+ degree terrain where the moguls are 2-3 feet deep?
Does pitching your shoulders forward onto your toe edge come into play when you are charging fast? Or is something you should never do. I find I can carve very aggressively and hold a line when going fast with this method.
OMG this trail is heaven! Im watching your videos to hopefully help teach a few friends of mine..loving the content.
What mtn and trail is this?! Going on my ever expanding bucketlist of places to board hahah
Alpe d'Huez in France, the Sarenne piste 👍
You the man!!!
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Wow unbelievable
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damn this cat track seemed endless.. thought it would end at Arc de Triomph Paris
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my only fear of flats is losing all speed and having to skate the rest of the way lol
That's a nice fear to have haha.
Nice tutorials! Is that a UFO at the sky on 07:53? :)
Maybe 🤷♂️
How is the camera working? Can you switch on elevation and speed aktive on th camera? Are you satissfied with the insta360?
Im also searching for a good Action cam. Thanks in advance.
Yeah I'm satisfied with the camera, but I pull gps data from a suunto watch with with gps and barometric sensor, it is more accurate!
Where is this? Looks pretty nice black trail
Alpe d'Huez France The Sarenne 🤩
very helpful Malcolm. Wanna practise those moves. Sometimes, i feel that i pick up a lot of speed on some of these "flat" and narrow sections. How would you scrub speed without putting your board across the fall line?
U could try carving more than usual keeping speed in control a lot of subtle carves no skids seem to do the trick kinda like a dancer sounds funny but it works get a rhythm down
Yeah quick carves work but at some point if you're picking up alot of speed a quick speed check might be the best way!
So if the flat slope is cambered/tilted to the left, I go on my toe side edge (regular foot placement). When I do this I somehow still slide off to the left and lose speed and then I’m stuck. Should I keep going on the toe side or switch from toe to heel all the time like he did in the video even though the slope is tilted?
Hey mate, lovely video and really helpful, thanks :) I love this riding style and I'm looking for a board that will suit it best, I am a fan of Amplid boards too, what would you recommend Creamer, Morning Glory or Dada, a good edge hold would be important too, I've made bad experience with washy boards. Thank you!
Thanks, hmmm I would say the creamer probably has the best edge hold, but the dada and morning glory are not bad either. All are very different boards though. The creamer is more of a conventional directional all mountain twin. The dada is kind of what I would call an all mountain board but it has a very unique shape and therefore different feel to it, it is very wide which does require a little more to make edge changes, but if you have big feet you might benefit from that added width. The morning glory I would say is a board to add to your quiver to take out on those big powder days, it's good on the piste too, but not as playful as the other boards, and doesn't really do switch. Hope this helps!
@@malcolmmoore Thanks for your reply man! Yes, looks like the Creamer might be the best choice.