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My Top 5 Earliest WW2 M1 Helmets
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2016
- If only these things could talk.
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we used to sit on em a lot...not a great chair but it got you off the ground. ...some of those dents came from that...I'm a helmet and hat guys also
I absolutely love helmets. Lol
Very Good! A large amount of surplus fixed bale helmets switched to swivels before the Korean War. Yes, many got switched during WW2. A lot of dents in helmets happened when soldiers used the helmet as a tool such as pounding stakes. My Grandfather is still alive and always talks about when he was in WW2.
+uptrail71 Thanks. That's cool your grandfather is telling you stories. I love talking to old vets. I have so much respect and appreciation of them.
My Grandfather was in the Philippines and Japan in 1944-45. I bought a 1968 US Army shirt and trousers for $10 at an auction today. It's has patches 101st Airborne and 1st Cavalry on it. Sergeant collar pins and Hammond name. Also for $5 a 2002 soldiers backpack. Then I still need to try dating 2 Navy shirts and a few other items. It's mixed year items for $5. A WW2 Wool coat sold for $95. I picked up the same one last year for $7.50. Crazy how prices change at auctions.
+uptrail71 Sounds like you got some nice things lately. I have had a great past few days. I went to a military show and a gun show and I got some good stuff. I am going to make a video in the next few days showing what I got.
The first m1 helmet I ever bought turned out to be a ww2 Schlueter helmet with the heatstamp: 252 A
E. E. That's cool man
My "theory" for the named USMC helmet with the flower. It's widely known that Marines during the Vietnam War got old shitty gear. This includes helmets. A LOT of Marines got trashy, surplus helmets left over from WWII. And we all know how most helmets got graffitied during Vietnam. This would be where the flower comes into play. Some Marines didn't even get helmet covers, so this could be why the flower is on the helmet itself. In a nutshell, I believe it was a helmet used during WWII, that was reissued to a Marine during Vietnam who graffitied it.
WWIIman1942 I agree. That's more than likely what happened for sure. Thanks for watching.
@@JonBoyMilitaria No problem! Thanks for putting the video out and replying! I currently have two M1s. I have a November/December 1943 (judging by the heat stamp) dated one and a Vietnam one that has the 80s style chinstraps and was fitted with a woodland camo cover and a band. I also have two PASGTs, one is unissued and came with the original booklet. I'd like to buy a rough WWII dated M1 and restore it. Have you done any restoring?
WWIIman1942 Thanks. Sound alike you have some nice helmets. Honestly I'm not really into restoring. I did make a few videos last year showing me cleaning up some helmets that were in a house fire.
@@JonBoyMilitaria Eh, my helmets aren't as cool as yours. But I would say I'm lucky to have a WWII M1. Not many people in this hobby can say that. It's a front seam swivel bail with OD7 chinstraps. All original shell. Most of the paint a texture is still intact as well. The liner is a Westinghouse with all original khaki webbing. I got it for $70 on eBay. I did buy a nape strap, a head band, and a liner chinstrap for it, however. I bought the accessories from J Murray Inc 1944. You have to check them out if you haven't already. He gets original helmets in bulk, and completely restores them. They honestly look beautiful in the end.
WWIIman1942 I know about J. Murray. I see stuff all the time on Facebook and ebay. Sounds like you have a nice World War 2 helmet. I have around 56 - 58 World war 2 M1s. I also have 2 M3 Flak helmets.
nice! i loves the m1s! up until recently i thought my earliest was 28h but i was talking to a guy on 1 of the facebook helmet pages and he asked me if it really was because his research hadnt turned up any lower than 44. so i sanded it down a bit and sure enough it was 1128h just that the 1s were really weak. so now my oldest is 40c. the guy said he had known a guy who worked for mccord during the war and that they were stamped prior to drawing. ive got a pair of chinstraps exactly like those on your 2nd m1 with the snaps. they were billed as ww2 when i got them. though the buckle and j hook are different from standard theyre identical in style to a larger buckle and j hook on a ww2 bc-1000 backpack radio waist belt.
Thanks. Yeah I knew that chinstrap set up was weird. I didn't know where it came from. I'm so glad I was able to pick up the 28E Helmet. Even better that it is named. I wish it was still fixed bale but it is what it is. When would you say the 28E would fall as far as month/ year? I was leaning towards 12/41 but not really sure.
JonBoy09 the charts really hard to read but using your 2 straight edge method id lean towards late jan or early feb 1942. it makes sense considering production didnt start until the 2nd half of 41 and there were numerous teething troubles with it.
+milcoll73 Teething troubles?
JonBoy09 trouble with drawing the shell without it warping, cracking. trouble with primering and paint adhesion and rusting.
+milcoll73 Oh ok. Thanks for the info
Those are some really cool helmets. Some good info about them. When i see them especially the ones with a name I think what it must have been like for the poor guy who had to wear it. I'm sure he's seen more than we can ever imagine.
Thanks. Yeah I think the same thing.
Great shows. Im a late bloomer with collecting militaria. I've collected antique phonographs for years and am now weeding out that collection and moving into the militaria collecting. I will only collect U.S. militaria from ww1 through the war on terror. Your inventory ideas are excellent and ill do the same also with my other collection. God bless you and your family and God bless the United States of America 🇺🇸.,
It's near too late to start! Glad to have you join in on this great hobby. It sounds like you have a good idea of what to collect. Thanks for watching my videos. I appreciate it. God Bless you and your family.
Wow 61 at a surplus store I saw a m1 Vietnam War helmet with the liner shell was trenched art by the Soldier and a name for 60$ and a MP m1 for 60$ I'm thinking maby buying the MP because it's about an A grade and the other one is about a b grade
That's cool. Sounds like a couple nice helmets. I mostly focus on World War 2 and World War 1. If you get a chance, check out some of my other videos. I am always making videos of my collection. Thanks
Thank You, quite interesting.
Alan Noorkoiv Thank you for watching. I am always adding to my collection and making new videos. Be sure to check back. Thanks
The earliest one I've got I think is 68B or 69B fixed bale front seam sadly it's got a huge stress crack on it. I hear the earliest heat stamp you can get is 26A after they stopped producing Kelly helmet's I guess I don't know that's just what I read.
That's true. Honestly, I like the stress cracks.
you need to take some light steel wool and some good oil and lightly hit the rust in the bottom of the helmets....the rust will eventually get deeper
Thanks for the tip
Very nice helmets!
Thanks man, I appreciate it
Cool helmet some of my earliest M1s are a Schlueter 70A S, a McCord 103B, and a Schlueter 162A. I used to have a McCord with a heat stamp of 175B and another with a heatstamp of 91E.
That's cool. I love early helmets
@@JonBoyMilitaria me to, I only have 7 WW2 M1s and 6 WW2 liners. Then I have one Korean post Nam used set , and 4 Nam used US M1s.
@@war.helmets9636 Keep on collecting and having fun
@@JonBoyMilitaria Thx, I would have more but I don't haveuch room. I have 40 helmets right now.
@@war.helmets9636 I think I have about 134
Hello Johnathon, it’s Lloyd here . great video bud how many Helmets do you have right now , always like watching your videos , I always come back to watch your videos over and over again great info as well Cheers Bud
Right now I have 109 total. Always looking to add more. Lol. Thanks for watching and thanks for your support. I appreciate it.
Crikey Bud 109 that’s Awesome,
@@jerseyfaranginthailand8134 Thank you. I haven't been finding much lately. Hopefully I will get back rolling again.
Can’t wait for your next video , hey did you get a Star for your Japanese Helmets yet ?
@@jerseyfaranginthailand8134 I actually just posted 2 new videos today. I have not gotten a star yet for my Japanese helmet.
Got one with traces of NCO tape rear & front. Stamped 321 A with a swivel bale replacement. £30 i paid. A similar one with liner was selling for £200. I'm hoping one day to find a liner for sale without shell. I wondered could You tell me how much the early M1 liners usually cost?
Honestly, it really depends on condition and the maker of the liner. The earlier ones can go for big money if they are in good condition. The St. Clair and Hood Rubber liners bring a premium. They are the low pressure liners that came after the Hawley/General Fibre liners. The low pressure liners didn't hold up well and so not as many were produced like the later high pressure liners.
We are all helm nuttz!🤪 One of the first M1s I got as a kid in 70s musta been biker owned,had bike gang graffiti!
Jman
Lol. It is fun being a helmet nut! Sounds like you had a pretty cool helmet as a kid.
@@JonBoyMilitaria
Like you say,every helmet has an interesting
past!👍
Jman
@@robertmunoz7543 Definitely
I just scored a front seam swivel bale with a heat stamp of 35A so I believe it was converted from a fixed bale.
Yes, it would have originally been a fixed bale. Nice score.
@@JonBoyMilitaria I can't figure out the code I think it's from Early 1942
know Is it a McCord or a Schlueter?
@@JonBoyMilitaria McCord
@@jameswhoneedstoknow5148 That would date between November 1941 - January 1942
Hey, i got two m1 helmets one early war( fixend bale) and one late war with swivel bales and they are magnetic, but why? My other m1s not.
There are probably small traces of alloy in the metal.
awesome helmets
+Donald Owens Thanks man
3:51 wait a minute the front drawing look familiar to me is it got the flower horizontal ? It if true that it ARVN captain of a division I saw one sell for 4000 bucks with the same horizontal flower but it was been scratch off
CAN YOU SHOW ME CLOSER ?
I will have to take another look. Thanks.
Hello! Can I ask what the liner for the helmet would look like?
Are you on instagram? We can message on there and I can show you pictures of liners.
nice
Thanks. I love helmets I have 61 now. I am always looking for more to add to my collection. I have over 100 videos posted of my military collection.
I have a rear seam McCord with a heat stamp reading M-50A do you know when that was made ?
Hey Dave, Since your McCord has the M at the beginning of the heat stamp it would dated to 1951. It is a Model 1951/1952.
JonBoy09 Hey thanks very much I've just got into collecting M1s myself and couldn't find any info on that Helmet stamp ?
I've got another one with a 4 digit stamp but it's not stamped under front brim like most are its to the right if you look at helmet it's probably a late one but it looks old any info on that would be good .
Hey Dave, the helmet that you have with 4 digits could be late WW2 or Vietnam Era... Does that helmet have a front seam or a rear seam? If its front seam then it is World War 2 for sure. The Rear Seams came into existence around October 1944... So it could be late WW2 or like I said maybe Vietnam...
Got a fixed bale helmet with the heat stamp 70a
Awesome. Is it a McCord or Schlueter?
@@JonBoyMilitaria not an expert, but believe its a mcord. Came with hood rubber low pressure liner and came with a large Army Air corps grouping
The Hood Rubber liner is worth alot especially if it is in good condition and complete.
@@JonBoyMilitaria only thing is missing is its liner chinstrap
Alot of times the leather just didn't hold up.
Hey, I got myself two m1 helmets but one of them looks foreign, do you know anything about them?
I may. I would need to see them.
Nice I have helmet 682
682 should be front seam, stainless steel rim with fixed bales (originally) could have been converted to swivel bales.
History of m1 Helmut
I am a big helmet collector. I have 113 right now. Lol. The M1 helmet is very iconic.
@@JonBoyMilitaria important for history.
@@kevincollins7320 Definitely!
Ive got a new m1 helmet and i can't find a heat stamp on it any evice ?
More than likely the heat stamp has faded over time or been painted over....
@@JonBoyMilitaria hm im thinking it might have faded
Probably so
I have a m1 ww2 sewn on...heat stamp says 49A or 1 49A..can you help buddy?
Travis Dozier is it front seam or rear seam?
JonBoy09 front seam...
Travis Dozier 49A would be around January 1942 and 149A would be around April/May 1942
JonBoy09 awesome..thanks man..i have one last question..every where I read says the green/yellow liners for Vietnam era are mid to late linners..others say they are post war...ive only seen brown liners..d you know the story on those...i am a ww2 and ww1 German helmet collector so these m1s are out of my league so thanks ...
JonBoy09 oh..who is the manufactor for my m1?
Heat stamps are like carbon dating 🌝
Yes
I need help identifying a helmet I have!
Ok cool. Do you have instagram? You could send me photos of your helmet.
ive got a guy on ebay trying to sell me a Vietnam helmet...shell is marked m 300??isn't that ww2?
If it is marked M300 then it is a Korean war model 1951/1951 made in 1952
Model 1951/1952