I explain 3 common types of grips you can potentially use for your FightStick/Arcade Stick. Drop a like, comment and subscribe! Stay connected! / hasteo / hasteo / hasteo
Idk how people use these short stubby sanwa sticks. I'm new to fight sticks, but man is it awkward to use for my Hori Rap V. Tempted to get the extended JLF shaft, a new spring, a bat top, and 1mm actuator.
For me the most comfortable grip is to hold the ball from the sides with my index and thumb (thumb is higher up on the ball because of the way I rest the rest of my hand on the deck) and then I support the underside of the ball with my middle finger curled underneath but not around the shaft. I find this the best way to hold it for me and not slip off because of the shaft spinning which is something that was happening to me a lot at first. I also find that having my hand resting on the surface of the housing helps me keep myself oriented and not start using the stick diagonally which was happening to me too lol
The 3 fingers grip is very comfortable, I love it, thanks ! It would be awesome if you could also explain how players should put their hands on the buttons.
If you need someone to tell you how to place your hands/fingers on an fightstick, you should probably just stick to game pads and leave the fightsticks to the real ones!
The method I find comfortable is to use index finger and thumb on the upper part of the stick, with my middle finger knuckle placed in the middle of the ball top. It's easy for me to pull the stick left, but I get uncomfortable pushing the stick right. That's where the knuckle comes in. I push my middle finger pushing the stick right with ease. With this method, I can get my forward dashes in easily. I also managed to instant air dash easily in Dragon Ball FighterZ. I'm not sure if others use this method as well.
3:17 never forget to cup the balls lmao!. Also i sometimes used a hybrid of the 3 fingers when im super stoned playing 3rd strike and its basically the same but alot less ball cupping but the ring finger is lower to the (damn ima say it) shaft lmao #cuptheball #shaft
Thanks for this video, I'm getting my new Etokki arcade stick tomorrow. It'll be my first time using anything other than a pad for fighting games, so this will help me.
I noticed that with the 3 finger grip I delevoped some injury on my ring finger, i think is because the part that is touching the lever is the side of the finger.
+Luis Velez Thanks bud! I would say a good 10hrs of play before I was as comfortable on stick as I was on pad where I could execute everything the same. I did used to play on stick back in the day in the arcade so there was that but it will vary for everyone. Practice and you'll get it for sure, gl bud!
There's a video about transitioning from pad to stick by the electric underground, he has a video about what he thinks is the most optimal way to grip the stick, those helped me a lot!
Amazing video my friend. I grew up in the arcade in the early 90s, but I haven’t been on one in a while. Lol 😂 I have a 4 star Diamond Ken masters. So I really appreciate your video. And it’s amazing that you’re married man. 💯
Great video I never really gave much though to stick grip tbh I just use what comes natural. However I have quite small hands and find the the compact GCOM Arcade Stick with the keyboard sized buttons works much better for me, my fingers don't have to travel so far and I find my attacks are much quicker as a result. Has anyone else here tried the gcom stick ?
Then there's the American Joystick "Pilot Grip". Of course, American Joysticks have more active snap, and you hold on and use the snap (or lack of it) as a tactile feedback to avoid false diagonals. That's when control is more important than speed. Also the intentionally long throw if an Anerican Style stick fits in with that philosophy.
I like gripping with all four, allows me to use all my fingers. My pinky and ring finger are like my confirmation that im hitting my motions. Team effort lol
when i first placed my hand on an arcade stick i used a 4 finger grip as it felt the most natural to me. I can pull of 3 finger grip but 2 finger grip is a bit too much.
I use the last one 4 fingers. I started with world warrior. so over the years the grip became more relaxed to compensate for hand size. you need to use a little elbow too lol not efficient but its what I'm used to.
So, just giving out info, not an attack, just clarifying, In this video he mention that the most common grip that is found is the two finger style grip. How close or far apart you want to have ur ring and pinkie finger away from the stick is ur call. The reason this is common is because your finger will always be more precise than ur wrist. However all of these different grips can be learned and made to perform at the same level. But most people tend to find the two finger style better when making precise movements. Why is this important. Because many Japanese players play on a square gate. Thus, they do not ride the gate when making quarter circle motion. They move the stick just enough to hear the clicks. If you use ur wrist you can still do this, but not as ez. Diago umehara is one famous player who chooses to use three finger style while not riding the gate. In America, people prefer the octagonal gate, so we ride the sht outta of that gate. and thus we want more power so we can hit the gate faster. So we wanna use our wrist hence three style grip. Now the type of gate you use isnt be all end all. You can use either gate and decide for urself if you wanna ride the gate or not. But I wanted to explain this because this is the reason why it matters which one you use. As far as Gootecks goes. You are misquoting him. One he says first and foremost, There are other styles, Two he says this is most common, Three the one he shows to be most common is the two finger style grip. Which in this video is also regarded as the most common grip. I've been a part of the fgc in east coast, and the question of grips comes out a lot. So i just wanted to give out this info. Again this isn't an attack on ur comment lol. Just wanted to clear up the gootecks thing. The link below is gootecks exact words, so nobody thinks, i'm making sht up about what he said. ruclips.net/video/IXP0kc9Sry8/видео.html
my index and middle fingers are outside the ball, ring finger rests on the inside against the stick. only issues i've had are with dashes, other than that, it works for me. I had to switch from a pad to a stick about 2 years ago due to a permanent injury to my left thumb, so i've been through every grip you just went through. lol.
I’m 7’2 with large hands and I use a variation of your two finger grip where instead of having your middle finger on the back of the ball I have it to the left side using my nail area. Whenever I do forward dashes I use the area just below the nail and I’ve been wondering if there were better ways for me to hold it but none of these are working for me. I’ve been fine maiming leo in Tekken but Axl Tk bomber loops are super strange for me
I've been having issues. I've been using the two finger grip in the and recently I got back into sfv. But my two finger is slightly different. I do it deep. So the ball is really only making contact with the bottom side of my knuckle on the middle finger. This used to not be a problem but now that I'm older I think it is irritating some nerves there. I don't know how to change my grip. Any tips? I'm not good at gripping with my fingers so maybe your three finger grip?
Hey dude! I feel like I was "strange"! I "cupped" the ball with the 2 finger, look like a mix-up from the first and the second method you use! When I started (a years ago) i watch a lot of guide that only talk about the first "2 finger" grip and i hated it. Like the pad/stick there isn't an universal response.
For tekken I have issues with the standard button layout. 1234 on the default mapping. I tried putting 4 on the third from the left on top or R1 but its a bit clunky.
i recently brought a stick. and i have large hands ... all of these techniques feel uncomfortable. im beginning to wonder if i can get a larger stick or maybe a bat ?
there's also another way of holding, closer to a wineglass style, you use the lower fingers to hold the stick, and and the index+middle+thumb on the top, and then there's a way where you just use the lower fingers with the palm of your hand for the moves. if that doesnt work, you can either go with a bat, or just trade it for a fight pad.
i have a completely different grip than all of these, and im not sure whether i should use it. imagine the 2 finger grip, but curl the middle finger so it's on the side of the stick. im pretty much touching the stick only with the tips of my index finger and thumb, and the fingernail of my middle finger. i use this grip because of the absolute chonkers i have for hands and my wide stature. both of which make it hard to input up/right with the regular two finger grip, the thing is that i struggle with motions (i play tekken and i dont play a character with motions but still). what do you think about that one?
Devin Christopher you most likely already know but that's a Madcatz Tournament Edition 2 Chun Li version. It comes with that art but both the ball top and the buttons are yellow, the ball top doesn't come in that color
+kevanharriskh55 Thanks bud! At first I liked using a Octagonal gate see my video here explaining gates ruclips.net/video/eMIzsIwSkjs/видео.html but since I have switched back to square. They are both good, I would say just use what you are most comfortable with!
I'm having this issue where my button arm gets strained I've tried having my stick further down my lap, at an angle to fit my hands angle better Any tips to reduce this?
Dude need help Don’t like 2 finger, i sort of float my pinky which hurts when i play Don’t like 3 finger, the pinky rests, but it’s at a weird position for me Don’t like 4 finger, it’s all wrist so my *wrist* hurts when playing
I currently find crossing my hands and having my right hand on the stick with the left on the buttons to be the most comfortable and effective. Is this going to lead to bad habits down the road? Should I force myself to get used to traditional styles?
Dan Grepo Not at all. You should play the way you feel more comfortable for you. Also, if I'm not wrong, I'm pretty sure that Seth Killian plays the same way you do untill this day, lol.
Dan Grepo you a lefty, you can custom an arcade stick and reverse the button/stick layout for this, or just add another stick to the right side and hotwire from the switches.
you can open up your fight stick and flip the switches on the lever and then just use it upside down so you dont have to cross your hands but do you my guy
So far, using the three finger method, but with the index finger on top center of the ball and the palm facing slightly more downward seems to give me more precise and finer control. Anyone else ever give it a go?
Wineglass technique for me
Idk how people use these short stubby sanwa sticks. I'm new to fight sticks, but man is it awkward to use for my Hori Rap V. Tempted to get the extended JLF shaft, a new spring, a bat top, and 1mm actuator.
This helps a lot, i'm still trying to get used to my arcade stick. Thanks for the video
For me the most comfortable grip is to hold the ball from the sides with my index and thumb (thumb is higher up on the ball because of the way I rest the rest of my hand on the deck) and then I support the underside of the ball with my middle finger curled underneath but not around the shaft. I find this the best way to hold it for me and not slip off because of the shaft spinning which is something that was happening to me a lot at first. I also find that having my hand resting on the surface of the housing helps me keep myself oriented and not start using the stick diagonally which was happening to me too lol
3:17 Cup the balls... Kreygasm
The 3 fingers grip is very comfortable, I love it, thanks ! It would be awesome if you could also explain how players should put their hands on the buttons.
+glonglon Glad you like it, I prefer it too! I may put out a video explaining it thanks for the feedback!
+Hasteo No problem, your blue balltop is very nice btw
If you need someone to tell you how to place your hands/fingers on an fightstick, you should probably just stick to game pads and leave the fightsticks to the real ones!
@@BAbivaJr - did u wanted to input your advice or are you just being a dick?
The method I find comfortable is to use index finger and thumb on the upper part of the stick, with my middle finger knuckle placed in the middle of the ball top. It's easy for me to pull the stick left, but I get uncomfortable pushing the stick right. That's where the knuckle comes in. I push my middle finger pushing the stick right with ease. With this method, I can get my forward dashes in easily. I also managed to instant air dash easily in Dragon Ball FighterZ. I'm not sure if others use this method as well.
3:17 never forget to cup the balls lmao!. Also i sometimes used a hybrid of the 3 fingers when im super stoned playing 3rd strike and its basically the same but alot less ball cupping but the ring finger is lower to the (damn ima say it) shaft lmao #cuptheball #shaft
Thanks for this video, I'm getting my new Etokki arcade stick tomorrow. It'll be my first time using anything other than a pad for fighting games, so this will help me.
The 3 finger grip is my go to the 2 finger grip feels weird for me
The daigo grip without holding feels very nice, easy fireballs and DP's
I noticed that with the 3 finger grip I delevoped some injury on my ring finger, i think is because the part that is touching the lever is the side of the finger.
When you switched to the arcade stick from a fight pad how long did it take you to be fully comfortable? Great video, thank you.
+Luis Velez Thanks bud! I would say a good 10hrs of play before I was as comfortable on stick as I was on pad where I could execute everything the same. I did used to play on stick back in the day in the arcade so there was that but it will vary for everyone. Practice and you'll get it for sure, gl bud!
I cried for my pad, just be patient
Watch a video on how to do charge moves on a square gate stick and you'll be blown away by how much of an upgrade you get
There's a video about transitioning from pad to stick by the electric underground, he has a video about what he thinks is the most optimal way to grip the stick, those helped me a lot!
@@capnbarky2682 even if we don't play charge characters?
Amazing video my friend. I grew up in the arcade in the early 90s, but I haven’t been on one in a while. Lol 😂 I have a 4 star Diamond Ken masters. So I really appreciate your video. And it’s amazing that you’re married man. 💯
Just got.my first stick today and I'm gripping it tightly with my index finger and my thumb and my other three fingers balled up
Great video I never really gave much though to stick grip tbh I just use what comes natural. However I have quite small hands and find the the compact GCOM Arcade Stick with the keyboard sized buttons works much better for me, my fingers don't have to travel so far and I find my attacks are much quicker as a result. Has anyone else here tried the gcom stick ?
Just imagine griping your personal home stick. Mucho effective.
Then there's the American Joystick "Pilot Grip". Of course, American Joysticks have more active snap, and you hold on and use the snap (or lack of it) as a tactile feedback to avoid false diagonals. That's when control is more important than speed. Also the intentionally long throw if an Anerican Style stick fits in with that philosophy.
Why do I find so funny? 1:16
You're hesitating to speak that you might say the wrong word. Hahahaha!
I like gripping with all four, allows me to use all my fingers. My pinky and ring finger are like my confirmation that im hitting my motions. Team effort lol
Poongko uses a korean stick so thats why, its way easier to play like that especially since it has a grommet
darkinertia2 lets drop in on a grommet
when i first placed my hand on an arcade stick i used a 4 finger grip as it felt the most natural to me. I can pull of 3 finger grip but 2 finger grip is a bit too much.
I use the last one 4 fingers. I started with world warrior. so over the years the grip became more relaxed to compensate for hand size. you need to use a little elbow too lol not efficient but its what I'm used to.
Still struggling to execute Iori's Deadly Flower moves like QCB three times on the sticks
I find it weird how gootecks acted like his grip was the standard and apparently it isnt even common if this video can be believed
There are many more grips than the ones shown here and the one Gootecks had in his video.
it might have to deal with the game he plays
So, just giving out info, not an attack, just clarifying, In this video he mention that the most common grip that is found is the two finger style grip. How close or far apart you want to have ur ring and pinkie finger away from the stick is ur call. The reason this is common is because your finger will always be more precise than ur wrist. However all of these different grips can be learned and made to perform at the same level. But most people tend to find the two finger style better when making precise movements. Why is this important. Because many Japanese players play on a square gate. Thus, they do not ride the gate when making quarter circle motion. They move the stick just enough to hear the clicks. If you use ur wrist you can still do this, but not as ez. Diago umehara is one famous player who chooses to use three finger style while not riding the gate. In America, people prefer the octagonal gate, so we ride the sht outta of that gate. and thus we want more power so we can hit the gate faster. So we wanna use our wrist hence three style grip. Now the type of gate you use isnt be all end all. You can use either gate and decide for urself if you wanna ride the gate or not. But I wanted to explain this because this is the reason why it matters which one you use. As far as Gootecks goes. You are misquoting him. One he says first and foremost, There are other styles, Two he says this is most common, Three the one he shows to be most common is the two finger style grip. Which in this video is also regarded as the most common grip. I've been a part of the fgc in east coast, and the question of grips comes out a lot. So i just wanted to give out this info. Again this isn't an attack on ur comment lol. Just wanted to clear up the gootecks thing. The link below is gootecks exact words, so nobody thinks, i'm making sht up about what he said.
ruclips.net/video/IXP0kc9Sry8/видео.html
@@erenrodriguez5231Thank alot man. Saved me some confusion. Was switching between 3 and 2 grip.
Why doesn’t know one explain how to use the right hand with the buttons that’s what I’m struggling with terribly
Saaaammmeeee
my index and middle fingers are outside the ball, ring finger rests on the inside against the stick. only issues i've had are with dashes, other than that, it works for me. I had to switch from a pad to a stick about 2 years ago due to a permanent injury to my left thumb, so i've been through every grip you just went through. lol.
+Iceman 2020 Damn, great to hear you adapted! :)
+Hasteo it's vids like these that helped me figure how to even get started on the switch in the first place.
I’m 7’2 with large hands and I use a variation of your two finger grip where instead of having your middle finger on the back of the ball I have it to the left side using my nail area. Whenever I do forward dashes I use the area just below the nail and I’ve been wondering if there were better ways for me to hold it but none of these are working for me. I’ve been fine maiming leo in Tekken but Axl Tk bomber loops are super strange for me
Yup…. cheers to us, tall guys.
Btw, how are you doing up inputs?
I have long ass thumbs and I’m struggling getting it below the stick to push it up
ty i can do ultra on right but struggle on the left side. i try all 3
+Javiel Ricketts Good luck hope it helps. Also just go in training mode and keep practicing.
I'm using il-eurosticks the ball to small for me
I switch up my grips mid game
So I'm a Chun li main and to do the zigzag movement I switch my grip to the 3 finger
I've been having issues. I've been using the two finger grip in the and recently I got back into sfv. But my two finger is slightly different. I do it deep. So the ball is really only making contact with the bottom side of my knuckle on the middle finger. This used to not be a problem but now that I'm older I think it is irritating some nerves there. I don't know how to change my grip. Any tips? I'm not good at gripping with my fingers so maybe your three finger grip?
Xavier Cervantes Use Bengay my guy. You good
@@shadysheister totally what I ended up doing
Xavier Cervantes Lol that stuff works wonders.
Hey dude!
I feel like I was "strange"! I "cupped" the ball with the 2 finger, look like a mix-up from the first and the second method you use!
When I started (a years ago) i watch a lot of guide that only talk about the first "2 finger" grip and i hated it.
Like the pad/stick there isn't an universal response.
Cupa da ball!
I still feel like I'm not doing it right
For tekken I have issues with the standard button layout. 1234 on the default mapping. I tried putting 4 on the third from the left on top or R1 but its a bit clunky.
i recently brought a stick. and i have large hands ... all of these techniques feel uncomfortable. im beginning to wonder if i can get a larger stick or maybe a bat ?
there's also another way of holding, closer to a wineglass style, you use the lower fingers to hold the stick, and and the index+middle+thumb on the top, and then there's a way where you just use the lower fingers with the palm of your hand for the moves. if that doesnt work, you can either go with a bat, or just trade it for a fight pad.
I use the 3 finger way I just started it.
I've even seen some people use just their thumb and index finger. Power to them, I guess.
+acornstairlift Yea, there are so many grips that people use, I just tried to cover the most common ones!
UltimateAnonymous that shit don't work
i have a completely different grip than all of these, and im not sure whether i should use it. imagine the 2 finger grip, but curl the middle finger so it's on the side of the stick. im pretty much touching the stick only with the tips of my index finger and thumb, and the fingernail of my middle finger. i use this grip because of the absolute chonkers i have for hands and my wide stature. both of which make it hard to input up/right with the regular two finger grip, the thing is that i struggle with motions (i play tekken and i dont play a character with motions but still). what do you think about that one?
Never use any of these techniques and u can let go
Never hold on to the stick like that without letting go
If you help bro watch joystickny
Is that stick you're using modded or stock? I really dig how the buttons and balltop match the Chun-Li art.
Devin Christopher you most likely already know but that's a Madcatz Tournament Edition 2 Chun Li version. It comes with that art but both the ball top and the buttons are yellow, the ball top doesn't come in that color
how'd u shoot/film yourself playing fightstick ? what setup camer do u use ?
I'm a bat-top guy. ^_^
so you're more of a hold the shaft, instead of cupping the ball...
Great video bro... U like square or octagon gates?
+kevanharriskh55 Thanks bud! At first I liked using a Octagonal gate see my video here explaining gates ruclips.net/video/eMIzsIwSkjs/видео.html but since I have switched back to square. They are both good, I would say just use what you are most comfortable with!
I'm having this issue where my button arm gets strained
I've tried having my stick further down my lap, at an angle to fit my hands angle better
Any tips to reduce this?
Try a pillow under your elbow to take some strain off the wrist
@@mandarinduck5507 thanks
Dude need help
Don’t like 2 finger, i sort of float my pinky which hurts when i play
Don’t like 3 finger, the pinky rests, but it’s at a weird position for me
Don’t like 4 finger, it’s all wrist so my *wrist* hurts when playing
I currently find crossing my hands and having my right hand on the stick with the left on the buttons to be the most comfortable and effective. Is this going to lead to bad habits down the road? Should I force myself to get used to traditional styles?
Not at all. You do what is preferable to you. If you aren't comfortable you can't play to your max potential.
wow really??...thats interesting..
Dan Grepo Not at all. You should play the way you feel more comfortable for you. Also, if I'm not wrong, I'm pretty sure that Seth Killian plays the same way you do untill this day, lol.
Dan Grepo you a lefty, you can custom an arcade stick and reverse the button/stick layout for this, or just add another stick to the right side and hotwire from the switches.
you can open up your fight stick and flip the switches on the lever and then just use it upside down so you dont have to cross your hands but do you my guy
Can you tell me where you got your artwork done? I'm tryna get my artwork done for my Omni Korean edition.
Nadalia2U That's the Mad Catz TE2 stick Chun-Li Edition so the artwork came with the stick.
are these 30mm or 24mm buttons?
Any particular grips for those with a battop joystick?
+NinjaRed5000 I would try 3 & 4 finger grip that is shown in this video as I see most pros that use a battop use this type of grip. Hope this helps!
Hasteo thanks buddy!
Nice info man, but it was a bit wishy-washy at the start
i know i will
but did you?
Wineglass.
I simply can't use a stick I've tried for so long. I'm just so much better at pad.
Jacob L'Esperance you can use? i want buy one but never use before
You should never grab it with your fingertips you're not going to get as much accuracy you need to use the inside of your hand
2 fingers cup
For a non in-depth guide this shit took so long to explain
You need to do more knowledge bro before you make a new video
So far, using the three finger method, but with the index finger on top center of the ball and the palm facing slightly more downward seems to give me more precise and finer control.
Anyone else ever give it a go?